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[2017-03-21 00:26:12] Tetsuo : buying into alt bubbles after 500-1000% rise isn´t the smart way
[2017-03-21 00:26:25] KingTuna : Totally agree
[2017-03-21 00:26:37] DangerandPlay : it's not whether or not they will screw anyone over, it's the simple fact that the market won't sustain this pump for long. It is hollow.
[2017-03-21 00:26:47] KingTuna : I'm out, made my fortune.. 35 BTC worth
[2017-03-21 00:26:49] needmoneyquick : who have to agree billions of dollars are not coming from nowhere
[2017-03-21 00:27:23] Tetsuo : they will just switch frrom one coin to the next, or even better to USD
[2017-03-21 00:27:26] laisee : not true, they came from a guy called 'Gratest Fule'
[2017-03-21 00:27:50] laisee : he funds all the bubles
[2017-03-21 00:28:35] needmoneyquick : or maybe the us government buying to erase their debt
[2017-03-21 00:28:57] Tetsuo : dure
[2017-03-21 00:29:00] Tetsuo : *s
[2017-03-21 00:29:22] Tetsuo : Trump bought all the Dash
[2017-03-21 00:30:08] needmoneyquick : lol dash is terrible I know but theres something big going on here
[2017-03-21 00:30:25] Tetsuo : it´s called pump and dump
[2017-03-21 00:30:43] needmoneyquick : ok man 4 billion dollars to eth
[2017-03-21 00:30:54] needmoneyquick : i've been following blockchain a long time
[2017-03-21 00:31:03] DoubleU : poloniex down
[2017-03-21 00:31:11] Tetsuo : HACKED AND ROBBED?
[2017-03-21 00:31:45] ross : i hope so
[2017-03-21 00:31:49] ross : piece of shit site
[2017-03-21 00:32:13] DoubleU : lol i'm sure BTC are safe
[2017-03-21 00:32:20] DoubleU : but man if all those alts got hacked
[2017-03-21 00:36:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `DASH7D`: buy 49 @ 0.095949
[2017-03-21 00:36:31] DoubleU : Nice dash bounce
[2017-03-21 00:36:51] DoubleU : Long into the margin calls walls sell higher
[2017-03-21 00:38:51] Sultan Pepper : zach719: if you never short, you'll miss half of the world's pleasures. It's like being straight or gay
[2017-03-21 00:39:12] Sultan Pepper : Short btc now!
[2017-03-21 00:39:30] zach719 : Sultan Pepper: nah im good :)
[2017-03-21 00:39:54] Sultan Pepper : Must be unisexual...
[2017-03-21 00:40:07] KingTuna : Ah BTC we know you're eventually gonna Fork FUD dump, just do it already
[2017-03-21 00:40:18] Sultan Pepper : Try some pssy once in a while @zach719
[2017-03-21 00:40:41] Nur : hey bitmex why cant i withdraw everything from my account?
[2017-03-21 00:40:55] Nur : there's like 3 usd in btc that you wont allow to withdraw why?
[2017-03-21 00:41:11] Sultan Pepper : Nur: fees, open position, rounded up?
[2017-03-21 00:41:25] Winklevoss : Nur: You have to upgrade to premium
[2017-03-21 00:41:26] Nur : all close no position
[2017-03-21 00:41:28] Winklevoss : quick
[2017-03-21 00:41:33] Sultan Pepper : Nur: fees
[2017-03-21 00:41:37] j8 : min withdrawal fee is 0.003
[2017-03-21 00:41:38] Nur : how to upgrade to premium
[2017-03-21 00:41:51] Nur : ok
[2017-03-21 00:42:01] Winklevoss : quick sign up before discount expires
[2017-03-21 00:42:08] Winklevoss : it was meant to be midnight still on
[2017-03-21 00:42:42] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 7 @ 1047.49
[2017-03-21 00:42:47] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 190 @ 1047.69
[2017-03-21 00:43:15] DoubleU : BTC a few dollars from new high on this bounce
[2017-03-21 00:43:50] Winklevoss : Nur: talk to admin, I'm kidding no need for premium
[2017-03-21 00:44:16] Winklevoss : 3 usd may be under withdrawal minimum
[2017-03-21 00:46:25] aethlios : bitmex should offer free withdrawals for below 500 usd accounts.
[2017-03-21 00:46:38] aethlios : they make so musc money now.
[2017-03-21 00:46:44] l3f : momo's turning up now
[2017-03-21 00:46:50] l3f : bitcoin might pop
[2017-03-21 00:47:11] l3f : aethlios: I think it's actually bottom
[2017-03-21 00:48:00] aethlios : i say 825 next target after retrace over.
[2017-03-21 00:48:28] Winklevoss : aethlios: 825 on the next HF news
[2017-03-21 00:49:05] Winklevoss : until then we range baby
[2017-03-21 00:50:01] aethlios : SW won't happen with 95%, btc can't keep going up with out fees go to the roof making it useless. so either HF or useless 30 usd network.
[2017-03-21 00:50:24] aethlios : 30 usd fees network
[2017-03-21 00:51:24] aethlios : manu unconfirmed transactions increase security network issues.
[2017-03-21 00:51:57] Winklevoss : Segwit = 30 usd fees?
[2017-03-21 00:52:09] l3f : aethlios: they can change POW without a soft fork
[2017-03-21 00:52:24] DorianWhack-A-Moto : dont trust this leg up. careful bulls.
[2017-03-21 00:52:32] l3f : if BU takes over (forces activation with 80%) nodes
[2017-03-21 00:52:34] Speran49 : wtf is going on with this wall at 1053
[2017-03-21 00:52:40] Speran49 : anyone find it odd?
[2017-03-21 00:52:42] l3f : then BU wins clearly and they becomes the network
[2017-03-21 00:52:44] Winklevoss : Speran49: no
[2017-03-21 00:52:47] Winklevoss : it makes sense
[2017-03-21 00:52:49] DorianWhack-A-Moto : Speran49: yes
[2017-03-21 00:52:50] Speran49 : why?
[2017-03-21 00:52:55] Speran49 : why does it makes sense
[2017-03-21 00:52:56] l3f : CoreCoin will be forced to hard fork
[2017-03-21 00:53:00] Winklevoss : there is uncertainity so we are ranging
[2017-03-21 00:53:02] l3f : (or softfork to change pow)
[2017-03-21 00:53:05] l3f : or they'll die
[2017-03-21 00:53:08] Winklevoss : until news on direction
[2017-03-21 00:53:14] Speran49 : yeah obvious
[2017-03-21 00:53:19] Speran49 : but look at t1053 buy wall
[2017-03-21 00:53:20] Farzad : l3f: +1
[2017-03-21 00:53:22] Speran49 : seems odd
[2017-03-21 00:53:31] DorianWhack-A-Moto : BU getting more hashpower every day. Can't sustain a high price with HF coming
[2017-03-21 00:53:36] Winklevoss : you don't like 1053 as a number
[2017-03-21 00:53:37] aethlios : l3f: and all investments in asics what will happen?? I think BU is a straight solution, core is afraid of HF and team is chickens.
[2017-03-21 00:53:41] Speran49 : lol
[2017-03-21 00:53:46] Winklevoss : try 1060
[2017-03-21 00:53:48] l3f : aethlios: they have no choice
[2017-03-21 00:53:48] Winklevoss : is that cuter
[2017-03-21 00:53:50] Farzad : /fork
[2017-03-21 00:53:51] trollbot : ``` Bitfinex BCC : 835.00 (2.44%) Bitfinex BCU : 212.55 (-3.39%) SLQ : 4 hours, 44 mins```
[2017-03-21 00:53:52] l3f : BU has more has power
[2017-03-21 00:53:59] Speran49 : /sentiment
[2017-03-21 00:54:01] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 33.46 / 66.54 Daily : 47.21 / 52.79 Weekly : 55.75 / 44.25 Monthly : 52.53 / 47.47```
[2017-03-21 00:54:08] Farzad : funny BCU price is falling
[2017-03-21 00:54:10] Winklevoss : we hit 1060 2 days ago 1053 not even a wall
[2017-03-21 00:54:24] l3f : Farzad: because it resets to zero if there's no hard fork
[2017-03-21 00:54:29] l3f : bfx's a joke
[2017-03-21 00:54:36] l3f : BU doesn't want a hard fork
[2017-03-21 00:54:38] l3f : they want a take over
[2017-03-21 00:54:46] Winklevoss : l3f: by HF'ing
[2017-03-21 00:54:48] aethlios : l3f: i aggree, BU takes over, core team goes to implement SW and LN in LTC and LTC is the new btc core and ralliew to 100!!!
[2017-03-21 00:54:54] Winklevoss : they don't give a fuck about the scaling issue
[2017-03-21 00:55:04] l3f : Winklevoss: no, they will have majority of the hash power
[2017-03-21 00:55:21] l3f : aethlios: Pretty much
[2017-03-21 00:55:32] l3f : So I think bitcoin's bottomed as far as I can tell
[2017-03-21 00:55:40] Tetsuo : yeah, pump my LTC to 100$ , it´s about time bitches
[2017-03-21 00:55:41] l3f : all indictors say momo moving up
[2017-03-21 00:56:00] Winklevoss : spinning tops here, where we headed?
[2017-03-21 00:56:17] Tetsuo : moon for some doom for the others
[2017-03-21 00:56:38] Winklevoss : spinning tops aren't moon or doom tickets
[2017-03-21 00:56:42] aethlios : l3f: so BCU on finex is a good buy now??
[2017-03-21 00:56:43] Winklevoss : they're totems to check reality
[2017-03-21 00:57:24] l3f : aethlios: No because BU won't hard fork and they will never add replay protection
[2017-03-21 00:57:33] l3f : because BU intends on taking over
[2017-03-21 00:57:44] l3f : bfx's bet includes replay protection which they will never add
[2017-03-21 00:59:50] aethlios : l3f: who will this work? if BU has 70% of hash, how they will force the software to change??
[2017-03-21 00:59:59] aethlios : how...
[2017-03-21 01:00:09] l3f : BU reaches 80%, becomes activated, 80% of the miners start making big blocks. BU runs a large 80%+ hash rate network.
[2017-03-21 01:00:44] aethlios : ah, they need 80% to activate? (like SW needs 95%??)
[2017-03-21 01:01:05] l3f : If you're a miner, and you upgrade, you mine on the BU network. If you don't upgrade, you mine on the BCC chain. However, because bitcoin's difficulty adjustment, that chain will be extremely hard to mine for 3 months
[2017-03-21 01:01:41] l3f : Should this happen, the minority chain (BCC) will be forced to change POW or hard fork
[2017-03-21 01:02:26] l3f : BU will not add replay protection because they are in a position of strength (core is the minority chain at this point)
[2017-03-21 01:02:26] aethlios : will they reach 80%?? sounds difficult?
[2017-03-21 01:02:49] laisee : +1 on what l3f said.
[2017-03-21 01:02:53] datboiyuan : There's no threshold to activate, 80% has been thrown around due to the difficulty algo argument
[2017-03-21 01:02:56] l3f : aethlios: https://coin.dance/blocks/historical
[2017-03-21 01:02:58] l3f : They are gaining
[2017-03-21 01:03:00] aethlios : yes nice alanysis
[2017-03-21 01:03:22] laisee : BU has momentum and miner support ... 70% or more miners and ~1000 nodes enough to fork the network. Core will die.
[2017-03-21 01:03:26] Winklevoss : they've lost 4% in 1 hr
[2017-03-21 01:03:26] datboiyuan : they could do it today yesterday tomorrow, more hp gives them more control
[2017-03-21 01:03:31] Winklevoss : fuck them
[2017-03-21 01:03:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XMR7D`: sell 40 @ 0.021205
[2017-03-21 01:03:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `XRP7D`: sell 9995 @ 0.00000659
[2017-03-21 01:03:43] datboiyuan : you're wrong
[2017-03-21 01:03:53] Winklevoss : Also bear in mind. If BU activates, bitcoin.com owned by the BU camp will exploit the media buzz and attract the public. Merchants will support both coins in order to continue business. BU will become synonymous with Bitcoin to the public
[2017-03-21 01:03:54] datboiyuan : there will be no fork
[2017-03-21 01:04:05] l3f : With the above analysis in mind
[2017-03-21 01:04:14] l3f : What do you make of the price action right now
[2017-03-21 01:04:21] laisee : no fork by BU ... BU has no activiation code.
[2017-03-21 01:04:27] Winklevoss : if there is a fork @80% , BTC stands very little chance
[2017-03-21 01:05:17] Tetsuo : price will go up until bad news smash the market down in a second
[2017-03-21 01:05:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `XMR7D`: sell 100 @ 0.020912
[2017-03-21 01:05:26] Tetsuo : like BU above 50%
[2017-03-21 01:05:30] l3f : Suppose BU does not reach 80%, then the status quo is maintained and nothing changes. Suppose BU reaches 80%, then bitcoin core will be forced to make some hard choices
[2017-03-21 01:05:46] laisee : Fork will be good for Bitcoin imho. Too much talk and fighting for last 2-3 years
[2017-03-21 01:06:03] l3f : I think if BU wins then the block chain is scaled, capacity increased
[2017-03-21 01:06:07] l3f : I think that's bullish
[2017-03-21 01:06:15] DorianWhack-A-Moto : a coin split will be disastrous but the reality is that is where we are headed.
[2017-03-21 01:06:18] Winklevoss : laisee: There are other solutions apart from fork, especially the flavor BU offers
[2017-03-21 01:06:18] Tetsuo : Goodbye XMR
[2017-03-21 01:06:34] laisee : Winklevoss: solutions like?
[2017-03-21 01:06:36] KingTuna : I am very unsure where BTC is going right now. Although, commonsense would say down based on market sentiment to do with the Hard Fork.. very cpnfused!
[2017-03-21 01:06:38] Sultan Pepper : Funding is getting out of control! Short this now!
[2017-03-21 01:06:38] DorianWhack-A-Moto : cheap XMR
[2017-03-21 01:06:57] Winklevoss : I'm not a dev expert
[2017-03-21 01:06:58] Winklevoss : https://blog.coinbase.com/scaling-bitcoin-the-great-block-size-debate-d2cba9021db0#.ucjfo8a6h
[2017-03-21 01:07:07] Winklevoss : short term and long-term solutions
[2017-03-21 01:07:29] laisee : Winklevoss: thought u meant adding Segwit ro BU, extended blocks etc
[2017-03-21 01:07:29] l3f : There are a lot of whales profit taking right now though
[2017-03-21 01:07:38] KingTuna : So do we kind of get some free BTU here at Bitmex for holding BTC?
[2017-03-21 01:07:49] stf28 : l3f: where doyou see that?
[2017-03-21 01:07:56] Winklevoss : KingTuna: Not free, it will acc cost you
[2017-03-21 01:07:57] Tetsuo : KingTuna: yes
[2017-03-21 01:08:06] l3f : stf28: massive sell walls on bfx and stamp
[2017-03-21 01:08:10] Winklevoss : you will have two sets of coins, but an overall loss in value
[2017-03-21 01:08:11] laisee : buy 1 get 1 ;-)
[2017-03-21 01:08:25] l3f : but stamp just at a 120 btc wall
[2017-03-21 01:08:31] l3f : ate*
[2017-03-21 01:08:41] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 99091 @ 1051.75 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2017-03-21 01:09:50] Winklevoss : /sentiment
[2017-03-21 01:09:53] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 47.55 / 52.45 Daily : 47.37 / 52.63 Weekly : 55.75 / 44.25 Monthly : 52.53 / 47.47```
[2017-03-21 01:12:00] l3f : I think once BU reaches 50%+ the future of btc is secured
[2017-03-21 01:12:13] l3f : and it'll be 2k when BU reaches 80%
[2017-03-21 01:12:26] Rado : l3f: you are BU believer?
[2017-03-21 01:12:31] j8 : delusional
[2017-03-21 01:12:37] Rado : lol
[2017-03-21 01:12:39] l3f : Rado: I used to hate BU but now I understand it
[2017-03-21 01:12:39] Winklevoss : BTC unsecured BU secured
[2017-03-21 01:12:39] Rado : yeah
[2017-03-21 01:12:39] Tetsuo : ^this
[2017-03-21 01:12:53] Rado : l3f: you don't seem to understand
[2017-03-21 01:12:59] l3f : Rado: Then enlighten me
[2017-03-21 01:13:06] Rado : their code is very bad and no enough good developers to support it
[2017-03-21 01:13:25] l3f : Rado: Once the core chain dies these kinds of things will be improved
[2017-03-21 01:13:29] Rado : where bitcoin core has over 100 of the best developers in the world
[2017-03-21 01:13:42] l3f : Rado: That's just core propaganda and you know it
[2017-03-21 01:13:46] Rado : l3f: why risk it when you can use the good code?
[2017-03-21 01:13:56] j8 : core chain won't die, at least not without putting up a fight
[2017-03-21 01:13:59] Rado : bitocin core can also hard fork and increase the block size if they want to
[2017-03-21 01:14:05] Rado : they are trying to be careful
[2017-03-21 01:14:10] Rado : no need to use BU code at all
[2017-03-21 01:14:17] KingTuna : Looks like BTC may edge up this time.. I am changing my mind by the minute.. If it does, then 1100
[2017-03-21 01:14:20] l3f : Developers always work on the most popular project
[2017-03-21 01:14:24] aethlios : l3f: do you think one sell leg happens if 50% rached by BU and market thinks a hard fork happens?? then as they don't for and keep growing their hash rate, rally to 2,000
[2017-03-21 01:14:37] Rado : which will never be BU
[2017-03-21 01:15:08] l3f : aethlios: If price keeps moving up while BU hash rate is moving up then I'm assuming the market likes BU
[2017-03-21 01:15:15] Rado : ETH dip buyers will cry soon
[2017-03-21 01:15:24] l3f : Since it means bitcoin's actually reducing the uncertainity
[2017-03-21 01:15:26] Tetsuo : BU getting activated is a bears wet dream
[2017-03-21 01:15:41] l3f : entropy drops when there is less uncertainty
[2017-03-21 01:15:49] Tetsuo : Rado: yeah ETH will crash soon
[2017-03-21 01:16:01] l3f : If it becomes clear that there is a clear path forward then price should rally
[2017-03-21 01:16:11] Rado : Tetsuo: I might double my short from 0.043 soon
[2017-03-21 01:16:11] needmoneyquick : dash about to pump
[2017-03-21 01:16:27] Rado : needmoneyquick: pump towards 0.07
[2017-03-21 01:16:32] Tetsuo : needmoneyquick: sry for your loss
[2017-03-21 01:16:55] Rado : why are people so naive
[2017-03-21 01:17:14] Rado : these shit coins had 100s of % increase and they think they will never come down
[2017-03-21 01:17:26] l3f : Rado: Like bitcoin right?
[2017-03-21 01:17:34] l3f : Keeps rallying and never stopping?
[2017-03-21 01:17:35] Rado : yes
[2017-03-21 01:17:38] KingTuna : Rado: Coz they never saw 2013
[2017-03-21 01:17:38] needmoneyquick : youre naive for not seeing whats happening
[2017-03-21 01:17:40] Rado : bitcoin is not immune
[2017-03-21 01:17:42] j8 : they're like bitcoin on fast-forward
[2017-03-21 01:17:44] Rado : but is the best coin
[2017-03-21 01:17:52] Tetsuo : i´m short XMR&ETH&DASH, and forthe next hours/days long BTC(plz don´t tell rapid)
[2017-03-21 01:17:54] needmoneyquick : dash has 1 million coins in circulation
[2017-03-21 01:17:59] needmoneyquick : rest in nodes
[2017-03-21 01:18:07] Rado : Tetsuo: lol
[2017-03-21 01:18:32] laisee : secret is safe with the Troll Box @Tetsuo
[2017-03-21 01:19:12] Rado : ETH mark price back to normal
[2017-03-21 01:19:33] Tetsuo : oh and ofc long LTC/USD
[2017-03-21 01:19:40] Tetsuo : soon....
[2017-03-21 01:19:43] Tetsuo : pump....
[2017-03-21 01:19:45] l3f : BU activated is good for bitcoin
[2017-03-21 01:19:46] Tetsuo : plz god...
[2017-03-21 01:19:51] l3f : increases chain capacity
[2017-03-21 01:19:56] Rado : Tetsuo: is LTC going to adopt Segwit?
[2017-03-21 01:20:00] l3f : Segwit activated is good as well
[2017-03-21 01:20:08] Tetsuo : Rado: i don´t know
[2017-03-21 01:20:10] l3f : Stagation is death
[2017-03-21 01:20:29] DorianWhack-A-Moto : l3f: segwit means less money for miners doesn't it?
[2017-03-21 01:20:33] l3f : Change and rebirth is the antithesis of death
[2017-03-21 01:20:58] Tetsuo : Rado: but i don´t see little downside for the future, i´m hoping for a brutal throat ripping pump
[2017-03-21 01:20:58] l3f : DorianWhack-A-Moto: not neccessarly, but segwit will be very hard to activated with the 95% requirement
[2017-03-21 01:21:05] aethlios : l3f: keep offering your tech knowledge!!!
[2017-03-21 01:21:05] Tetsuo : *do
[2017-03-21 01:21:34] DorianWhack-A-Moto : l3f: with segwit and layer 2 built on top miners miss out on transaction fees, from what i understand
[2017-03-21 01:21:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: sell 2 @ 0.001832
[2017-03-21 01:21:49] l3f : DorianWhack-A-Moto: It is true but there will be more transactions as well
[2017-03-21 01:21:57] l3f : since more can fit in a block
[2017-03-21 01:23:02] l3f : Anyways I think it's a bit like hillary and trump where hillary is core and trump is BU
[2017-03-21 01:23:05] aethlios : l3f: can BU in the future implement SW and LN??
[2017-03-21 01:23:16] Winklevoss : aethlios: lol
[2017-03-21 01:23:20] startChat : aethlios: that would defeat purpose
[2017-03-21 01:23:24] l3f : aethlios: They can add SW
[2017-03-21 01:23:25] startChat : they want onchain fees
[2017-03-21 01:23:40] Winklevoss : that question is philosophical arena
[2017-03-21 01:23:43] l3f : Well segwit is a technical improvement anyway
[2017-03-21 01:23:45] l3f : hard to be against it
[2017-03-21 01:24:05] aethlios : LN offers more options, like exchange wiyj alts in fixed price.
[2017-03-21 01:24:53] l3f : aethlios: true, but I think if BU wins then the devs jump ship as well
[2017-03-21 01:25:12] aethlios : core devs?
[2017-03-21 01:25:27] l3f : they won't work on a dying chain that nobody uses
[2017-03-21 01:26:10] aethlios : will they work with BU team or go elsewhere to implement their SW work??
[2017-03-21 01:26:32] needmoneyquick : dash has 7million coins. 2 million are held by bagholders, 4000 nodes x 1000. Maybe a million on exchanges
[2017-03-21 01:26:34] l3f : aethlios: hard to say
[2017-03-21 01:26:41] l3f : dunno really
[2017-03-21 01:26:44] aethlios : also will btc investors trust BU team?? or will sell btc to 500 because of less trust??
[2017-03-21 01:26:49] needmoneyquick : create any demand that will skyrocket
[2017-03-21 01:26:50] l3f : core and BU devs aren't really friendly together
[2017-03-21 01:27:14] l3f : aethlios: that's a good point as well, BU's code is likely not as stable as core
[2017-03-21 01:27:25] DorianWhack-A-Moto : needmoneyquick: what happened to the 2 million instamined coins?
[2017-03-21 01:27:36] Tetsuo : PUMP THE CHICkUN! DO IT!
[2017-03-21 01:27:36] l3f : But these things can be fixed
[2017-03-21 01:27:45] Winklevoss : If BU wins, espesh @ 80% then devs, investors, merchants and public jump ship
[2017-03-21 01:27:54] needmoneyquick : DorianWhack-A-Moto: still in wallets untouched for years
[2017-03-21 01:27:54] l3f : Say a critical bug happens, price dives for a day, and rebounds when it gets fixed
[2017-03-21 01:28:00] Winklevoss : the world doesn't have time to stop and work out the details.
[2017-03-21 01:28:17] Winklevoss : BU becomes BTC for all intents and purposes
[2017-03-21 01:28:35] DorianWhack-A-Moto : needmoneyquick: so dash allows anyone to view wallet addresses? I thought it was anonymous
[2017-03-21 01:28:59] needmoneyquick : DorianWhack-A-Moto: no you can view. Top 4 wallets only 200,000 +
[2017-03-21 01:29:17] needmoneyquick : 1 or 2 may be an exchange
[2017-03-21 01:29:23] aethlios : l3f: many stupid will be buying btc core (forked) at 200???
[2017-03-21 01:29:35] Tetsuo : needmoneyquick: so little supply is the main reason for you to buy DASH @ 100?
[2017-03-21 01:29:49] Winklevoss : DorianWhack-A-Moto: pseudonymous not anonymous
[2017-03-21 01:29:50] DorianWhack-A-Moto : needmoneyquick: xmr offers real privacy. it should be 100
[2017-03-21 01:29:51] Tetsuo : no one usin it, no one
[2017-03-21 01:29:54] needmoneyquick : Tetsuo: absolutely
[2017-03-21 01:30:05] Tetsuo : needmoneyquick: cool keep buyin@ 100$
[2017-03-21 01:30:25] needmoneyquick : supply and demand man
[2017-03-21 01:30:42] DorianWhack-A-Moto : Winklevoss: yeah thats like bitcoin. i thought dash was marketed as an anonymous coin. looks like xmr still the best in that regard.
[2017-03-21 01:30:43] Tetsuo : i can´t see lots of demand at that price
[2017-03-21 01:30:46] needmoneyquick : blockchain is getting attention and newbie see Digital Cash they buy
[2017-03-21 01:31:06] Winklevoss : needmoneyquick: true
[2017-03-21 01:31:09] Tetsuo : needmoneyquick: with your logic even a price @ 1500$ would make sense, cuz hey, low supply
[2017-03-21 01:31:54] Tetsuo : it´s a shitty anon pump usin MLM schemes to pump it
[2017-03-21 01:32:30] aethlios : usually when they hire a pretty woman (amanda dash) to convince you for something, better don't trust them.
[2017-03-21 01:33:12] aethlios : l3f: 750 must be a nice price to get in.
[2017-03-21 01:33:47] l3f : aethlios: I can't see it going that low
[2017-03-21 01:34:12] Winklevoss : aethlios: show me this pretty woman
[2017-03-21 01:35:03] aethlios : Winklevoss: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHxgMuXIItc&t=680s dash pays her.
[2017-03-21 01:35:27] aguia7 : https://www.google.com.br/search?q=mulher+feia&rlz=1C1IHCB_enBR623BR624&espv=2&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjVxcSzuubSAhXGWpAKHfRKCZ8Q_AUIBigB&biw=1920&bih=950#imgrc=zkupGaDAPAf6lM:
[2017-03-21 01:35:58] Winklevoss : nice knowing you guys
[2017-03-21 01:36:11] Winklevoss : going to go 100x long LTC
[2017-03-21 01:36:11] DorianWhack-A-Moto : see you at 1020 everybody
[2017-03-21 01:36:12] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 1250 @ 1045.93
[2017-03-21 01:36:25] startChat : 960
[2017-03-21 01:36:32] freact : 850
[2017-03-21 01:36:40] Winklevoss : aguia7: fuck you
[2017-03-21 01:36:57] DorianWhack-A-Moto : we're gonna bounce around the 1000-1060ish mark for a while. play in that region and profit.
[2017-03-21 01:37:12] freact : yeah, was just joking :P
[2017-03-21 01:37:12] Winklevoss : DorianWhack-A-Moto: I'm with you, have been for last two days
[2017-03-21 01:37:33] Winklevoss : but only buy the dips, we're bullish as a proxy
[2017-03-21 01:37:50] DorianWhack-A-Moto : im opposite only short the rises lol
[2017-03-21 01:38:07] l3f : aethlios: Looks like rising triangle right now
[2017-03-21 01:38:10] l3f : with momo up
[2017-03-21 01:38:21] l3f : I'm thinking long
[2017-03-21 01:38:32] l3f : Maybe that's a mistake
[2017-03-21 01:38:47] Winklevoss : we're not going long
[2017-03-21 01:38:58] Winklevoss : until the council deliberates on this FH
[2017-03-21 01:39:11] aethlios : l3f: my charts are very bearish, if it dips to 755 i will go long for a long hold up to 3,000.
[2017-03-21 01:39:16] Winklevoss : can't go to the moon with the elephant in the room
[2017-03-21 01:39:23] abbey : NOW! lets have fun tryin to catch the fallin knife http://data.bitcoinity.org/markets/books/USD
[2017-03-21 01:40:43] l3f : aethlios: Why so bearish?
[2017-03-21 01:40:48] DorianWhack-A-Moto : abbey: hot potato
[2017-03-21 01:40:59] aethlios : l3f: after this debate ends, we get ( i expect) a very long bullish era, it's a matter of good entry.
[2017-03-21 01:41:09] aethlios : l3f: charts look weak.
[2017-03-21 01:41:18] aethlios : point to another leg down.
[2017-03-21 01:41:25] l3f : aethlios: a lot of buying at 950 though
[2017-03-21 01:41:28] Winklevoss : we are defo bullish after this debate
[2017-03-21 01:41:46] aethlios : maybe like the fomo up etf news, we will have the fud dump fork news.
[2017-03-21 01:41:46] DorianWhack-A-Moto : segwit is bullish - bu is bearish
[2017-03-21 01:41:56] DorianWhack-A-Moto : but BU is bullish for BU
[2017-03-21 01:42:02] Winklevoss : we're below 200ema
[2017-03-21 01:42:41] aethlios : Winklevoss: 888 is ema200
[2017-03-21 01:42:47] aethlios : on daily
[2017-03-21 01:43:17] aethlios : BU for btc, SW and LN for LTC, all happy.
[2017-03-21 01:43:43] Winklevoss : 755 dip and we are below 200ema
[2017-03-21 01:43:45] l3f : If daily closes at this price then it should be ok to long
[2017-03-21 01:46:15] longbydefault : /fork
[2017-03-21 01:46:15] trollbot : ``` Bitfinex BCC : 849.80 (1.77%) Bitfinex BCU : 199.98 (-5.91%) SLQ : 52 mins```
[2017-03-21 01:50:29] KingTuna : BTC long, ETH /Alts short
[2017-03-21 01:51:56] Winklevoss : watching sopranos at 2am is not good
[2017-03-21 01:52:17] Dynamix : Down we go mby
[2017-03-21 01:52:23] aethlios : l3f: If no fork occurs by December 31, 2017, then BCU will expire worthless and BTC will be given in exchange for each BCC holder. If, however, there is a fork, specifically Bitcoin Unlimited, then, as soon as we list Bitcoin Unlimited, we will exchange BCU tokens for Bitcoin Unlimited tokens as well as retiring BCC tokens in favor of Bitcoin Core tokens. More detailed information can be found in the Chains Split Token Terms and Conditions.
[2017-03-21 01:52:26] Winklevoss : these italians eat every scene
[2017-03-21 01:52:59] Winklevoss : aethlios: where from?
[2017-03-21 01:53:27] aethlios : it says if there is a fork, speciffically BU.... so what happens if core forks??? i think i will ask them.
[2017-03-21 01:53:34] aethlios : Winklevoss: finex
[2017-03-21 01:53:41] l3f : aethlios: but they also require BU to have replay protection
[2017-03-21 01:53:43] l3f : to list
[2017-03-21 01:54:17] l3f : It's a technicality that's pretty significant
[2017-03-21 01:54:23] l3f : because BU will not add replay protection
[2017-03-21 01:54:35] l3f : Will they exchange it for BU no matter what?
[2017-03-21 01:54:40] l3f : even if BU doesn't list?
[2017-03-21 01:55:09] DorianWhack-A-Moto : GDAX added margin trading
[2017-03-21 01:55:44] DorianWhack-A-Moto : $5million entry though
[2017-03-21 01:55:45] abbey : 850 incoming soon
[2017-03-21 01:56:30] abbey : perhaps
[2017-03-21 01:56:42] Winklevoss : DorianWhack-A-Moto: 3x leverage for n00bs
[2017-03-21 01:56:51] aethlios : l3f: where they say about replay protection??
[2017-03-21 01:57:01] DorianWhack-A-Moto : Winklevoss: n00bs with 5 million or more and NO fees
[2017-03-21 01:57:21] KingTuna : Looks like BTC about to break upwards
[2017-03-21 01:57:27] l3f : @aethlios https://www.scribd.com/document/342194766/Hardfork-Statement-3-17-11-00am
[2017-03-21 01:57:33] l3f : the exchange statement
[2017-03-21 01:57:54] Winklevoss : KingTuna: yh
[2017-03-21 01:58:46] l3f : https://www.change.org/p/bitcoin-exchanges-open-letter-to-the-bitcoin-exchanges-who-signed-the-letter-of-march-17-2017
[2017-03-21 01:58:48] l3f : More info here
[2017-03-21 02:00:29] Winklevoss : Here's the mystical 1053 again
[2017-03-21 02:00:32] l3f : "Brian Armstrong / Coinbase wrote: Coinbase didn't sign the industry letter because I think the intention behind it is wrong. On the surface it is a communication about how exchanges would handle the hard fork, and a request to BU for replay attack protection. But my concern was that it was actually a thinly veiled attempt to keep the BTC moniker pegged to core software. I think a number of people who put their name on it didn't realize this."
[2017-03-21 02:01:17] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 2000 @ 1053.41
[2017-03-21 02:01:39] abbey : KingTuna: up not confirmed yet
[2017-03-21 02:02:12] aethlios : l3f: nice explanation, thanks.
[2017-03-21 02:02:54] Winklevoss : confirmed @abbey
[2017-03-21 02:03:55] l3f : Winklevoss: Waiting for breakout
[2017-03-21 02:03:56] abbey : not yet
[2017-03-21 02:04:05] holistico : someone wants to buy my 3 dash pls?
[2017-03-21 02:04:06] l3f : Finex wants it
[2017-03-21 02:04:09] holistico : ty
[2017-03-21 02:04:13] l3f : but still on the line
[2017-03-21 02:04:14] Winklevoss : holistico: I give you ten bucks
[2017-03-21 02:04:28] holistico : lol
[2017-03-21 02:04:54] holistico : that will be a good price next month
[2017-03-21 02:04:58] Winklevoss : how much dash buys a bj from amanda dash
[2017-03-21 02:06:50] aethlios : l3f: in how many days weeks do you think all will settle?? relatively fast??
[2017-03-21 02:07:09] l3f : aethlios: really no idea haha
[2017-03-21 02:07:13] l3f : you're the better trader
[2017-03-21 02:07:22] l3f : I'm just a dev
[2017-03-21 02:07:41] mark121 : i think people are underestimating the damage this will do in the short term
[2017-03-21 02:07:45] Winklevoss : l3f: wouldn't a dev be better informed on such a topic
[2017-03-21 02:07:55] mark121 : and potentially longer
[2017-03-21 02:08:04] l3f : Winklevoss: it's all politics
[2017-03-21 02:09:08] Winklevoss : so we should ask trump?
[2017-03-21 02:09:10] abbey : sooner better for evrybodies
[2017-03-21 02:09:16] Winklevoss : he's a politician right?
[2017-03-21 02:09:31] abbey : so the answer is soonish
[2017-03-21 02:10:51] Winklevoss : abbey: what I gather from the btc community is nobody knows for sure, but my guess is we'll hear in the next 2/3 weeks.
[2017-03-21 02:11:31] Winklevoss : Jihan Wu is a cockroach, they're restless in the light
[2017-03-21 02:12:14] mark121 : all those who ultimately played a role in making a fork necessary should be lined up and shot
[2017-03-21 02:12:18] abbey : i quess sooner than that. @Winklevoss
[2017-03-21 02:12:40] abbey : guess
[2017-03-21 02:12:52] mark121 : its like a mutually assured destruction or scorched earth attitude in my mind
[2017-03-21 02:15:35] abbey : i'm afraid we have to visit rapidly 3 digits before up. 850 is my guess.
[2017-03-21 02:15:50] Winklevoss : abbey: go long march contract if you're sure
[2017-03-21 02:15:53] mark121 : like two friends who put their money together to buy something and then eventually get in a fight and demand half of it.. very rarely does this work out
[2017-03-21 02:16:08] Winklevoss : abbey: what scenario would ensue
[2017-03-21 02:17:30] DorianWhack-A-Moto : mark121: i dont underestimate. i know the damage thats about to happen. trade accordingly.
[2017-03-21 02:17:39] abbey : Winklevoss: i will go long march when its time. Sure i'm not about anything.
[2017-03-21 02:19:06] abbey : to me it looks like we hit the roof
[2017-03-21 02:19:21] abbey : perhaps
[2017-03-21 02:19:35] DorianWhack-A-Moto : there's talk about changing core PoW now. imagine the damage when every asic is useful for only mining BU. BU becomes the most secure network until core catches up.
[2017-03-21 02:20:35] mark121 : hearing whispers of a btc exodus -- miners will go where the money is afterall
[2017-03-21 02:20:36] Winklevoss : Segwit is @ 27% and BU @36%
[2017-03-21 02:20:38] Winklevoss : gap closi
[2017-03-21 02:21:30] DorianWhack-A-Moto : im surprised there are still people that think this coin split/hf won't be a problem.
[2017-03-21 02:21:58] startChat : "secure"
[2017-03-21 02:22:00] mark121 : same ppl who said etf approval was 70%+
[2017-03-21 02:22:10] mark121 : :p
[2017-03-21 02:22:12] startChat : Most people who think bitcoin works don't think this fork will happen
[2017-03-21 02:22:28] startChat : Not in the miners interest to go through with it
[2017-03-21 02:22:42] startChat : unless gov sponsored attack
[2017-03-21 02:22:50] willjoi : How to buy bitcoins with my credit card?
[2017-03-21 02:22:59] mark121 : www.coinbase.com
[2017-03-21 02:23:15] Winklevoss : willjoi: no, type your Card details on here
[2017-03-21 02:23:19] DorianWhack-A-Moto : willjoi: enter card details and expiry ccv here in trollbox and it magically converts for you
[2017-03-21 02:23:29] Winklevoss : my friend @startChat will deposit your BTC into your account
[2017-03-21 02:23:31] mark121 : oh ya forgot about that
[2017-03-21 02:23:47] aguia7 : startChat: That's what I thought, that if Bitcoin gets in the way of government, he can have a go at it.
[2017-03-21 02:24:15] DorianWhack-A-Moto : 4192 1299 8812 8138
[2017-03-21 02:24:23] DorianWhack-A-Moto : just bought more
[2017-03-21 02:24:29] mark121 : nice
[2017-03-21 02:24:37] mark121 : isnt it 10% bonus this week?
[2017-03-21 02:24:42] Winklevoss : 4757 1452 1281 2323
[2017-03-21 02:24:47] Winklevoss : 01/20
[2017-03-21 02:24:49] Winklevoss : 388
[2017-03-21 02:24:59] Winklevoss : mark121: 11%*
[2017-03-21 02:25:20] Winklevoss : WHAT the fuck is this graph doing right now
[2017-03-21 02:25:22] mark121 : 4192 1252 4156 7867 03/21 666 PromoCode: BoNuSWEEK
[2017-03-21 02:25:33] Winklevoss : BTC did some shrooms
[2017-03-21 02:26:19] DangerandPlay : How much longer will Dash madness last? Who would be brave enough to long it now? :)
[2017-03-21 02:26:25] DorianWhack-A-Moto : wake up china. do something crazy so the proves moves
[2017-03-21 02:26:26] abbey : Winklevoss: oh, march.. no no, won't touch that anymore, i meant Jun i'll long hopefully from bottom
[2017-03-21 02:26:38] abbey : soon
[2017-03-21 02:26:38] mark121 : actually dash wasnt a bad long half an hour ago
[2017-03-21 02:26:42] mark121 : for a scalp anyhow
[2017-03-21 02:27:55] Winklevoss : nobody has talked about how PBoC reaction to regulating BU factors into the price
[2017-03-21 02:28:03] DangerandPlay : I foresee a sharrrrrrp drop for Dash. Beware the ides of March....
[2017-03-21 02:28:11] DorianWhack-A-Moto : really ripe for a decent drop. cmon bitcoin apple fall from that tree
[2017-03-21 02:28:16] mark121 : because PBOC's affect on price is fakenews
[2017-03-21 02:29:32] DorianWhack-A-Moto : PBOC have their own crypto in the works. Step 1 - destroy bitcoin. Step 2. move chinese miners to PBOC coin. Step 3. Profit.
[2017-03-21 02:29:41] Winklevoss : PBoC and China is BTC
[2017-03-21 02:29:41] mark121 : it shud sink momentarily
[2017-03-21 02:29:53] Winklevoss : DorianWhack-A-Moto: really?
[2017-03-21 02:30:21] mark121 : I heard Golem is the new BTC
[2017-03-21 02:30:24] DorianWhack-A-Moto : Winklevoss:https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-02-23/pboc-is-going-digital-as-mobile-payments-boom-transforms-economy
[2017-03-21 02:30:43] mark121 : and LBRY Token is the new Golem
[2017-03-21 02:31:17] Winklevoss : that is far away
[2017-03-21 02:32:07] DorianWhack-A-Moto : they've done trial runs of their crypto. launch can't be too far off. been researching since 2014.
[2017-03-21 02:33:00] DorianWhack-A-Moto : it might sound like tin-foil talk but i wouldn't be surprised if they have something to do with BU
[2017-03-21 02:33:22] Winklevoss : DorianWhack-A-Moto: Even if they don't, they'll be rooting
[2017-03-21 02:35:49] mark121 : i bet the CIA is behind the hardfork
[2017-03-21 02:35:58] Winklevoss : mark121: ISIS
[2017-03-21 02:36:04] datboiyuan : no pboc wants to control bitcoin
[2017-03-21 02:36:10] datboiyuan : or wants you to think they do
[2017-03-21 02:36:14] datboiyuan : for their honor
[2017-03-21 02:37:19] DorianWhack-A-Moto : http://macpool.us/
[2017-03-21 02:37:41] DorianWhack-A-Moto : John McAffee's pool. has a bitcoin.com ticker. done a deal with Bitmain
[2017-03-21 02:38:17] DorianWhack-A-Moto : BU is becoming more of a threat everday.
[2017-03-21 02:38:28] Tetsuo : McAffee 2020 - President!
[2017-03-21 02:38:41] Winklevoss : DorianWhack-A-Moto: so to they support BU or what
[2017-03-21 02:38:44] aethlios : DorianWhack-A-Moto: he will mine bu, right??
[2017-03-21 02:38:52] DorianWhack-A-Moto : Winklevoss: Yes they support BU
[2017-03-21 02:39:25] DorianWhack-A-Moto : aethlios: yep. John was in China recently. All sorts of deals going around.
[2017-03-21 02:39:54] DorianWhack-A-Moto : Dont think everyone realizes how close we are to forking.
[2017-03-21 02:40:03] aethlios : DorianWhack-A-Moto: looks like a well organised effort, core must be sleeping all those months.
[2017-03-21 02:40:53] DorianWhack-A-Moto : Think most of the bitcoin community has been sleeping. We've allowed mining to become centralized in China of all places.
[2017-03-21 02:43:06] DorianWhack-A-Moto : Like trading, we can look at the order books and think we see everything, but what about the 'hidden' orders. Same with this HF, not all cards are on the table yet. We wont realize til too late.
[2017-03-21 02:43:26] Tetsuo : DorianWhack-A-Moto: +1
[2017-03-21 02:48:45] KingTuna : Finex advancing
[2017-03-21 02:49:02] abbey : btc triple top?
[2017-03-21 02:49:42] Winklevoss : abbey: what time frame, you mean double top
[2017-03-21 02:49:46] aethlios : for sure HF is an excellent bear trap, as etf was a bull trap, but i think we have one leg down again for HF panic sellers to dump their coins to the new leaders.
[2017-03-21 02:50:20] abbey : Winklevoss: 1h
[2017-03-21 02:50:31] Winklevoss : abbey: Yh i see it now
[2017-03-21 02:51:36] Winklevoss : tempted to short @ peak
[2017-03-21 02:51:49] Winklevoss : I'm meant to be buying the dips only
[2017-03-21 02:52:38] DorianWhack-A-Moto : aethlios: dont think there can be enough FOMO to make HF a bear trap. etf fomo was high so was easy to play the market
[2017-03-21 02:53:27] Winklevoss : DorianWhack-A-Moto: there's FUD with panic to follow
[2017-03-21 02:53:37] aethlios : if BU takes over, then LTC and SW LN senario will play well.
[2017-03-21 02:54:20] DorianWhack-A-Moto : Winklevoss: FUD mixed with actual FUD = MUD. waters are muddy.
[2017-03-21 02:56:35] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 1000 @ 1056.32
[2017-03-21 03:01:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTM17`: buy 200 @ 1072.08
[2017-03-21 03:01:43] KingTuna : Here goes BTC FTW
[2017-03-21 03:01:52] startChat : china
[2017-03-21 03:01:58] KingTuna : Close your shorts, choppy waters ahead ;)
[2017-03-21 03:02:24] abbey : KingTuna: hold ur horses
[2017-03-21 03:04:47] DorianWhack-A-Moto : still within range. if we break and hold 1060 it might be different.
[2017-03-21 03:05:03] DorianWhack-A-Moto : still comfortable with a short
[2017-03-21 03:05:35] KingTuna : Agree.. Need to break 1060 on Finex
[2017-03-21 03:07:08] Farzad : /rekt
[2017-03-21 03:07:09] trollbot : ``` 3 recent REKTs > 100K: ``` ``` 6 hours, 15 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 160000 @ 1027.00 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished: ``` ``` 28 hours, 36 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 210000 @ 1034.53 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire: ``` ``` 35 hours, 26 mins ago: Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 100000 @ 1010.42 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished: ```
[2017-03-21 03:14:34] datboiyuan : idk what it means that abbey is not bull
[2017-03-21 03:14:37] datboiyuan : im scared
[2017-03-21 03:14:59] DorianWhack-A-Moto : profit taking about to commence
[2017-03-21 03:16:49] KingTuna : DorianWhack-A-Moto: We will shortly find out
[2017-03-21 03:16:57] Zen Trader : /sentiment
[2017-03-21 03:16:59] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 19.14 / 80.86 Daily : 47.25 / 52.75 Weekly : 55.68 / 44.32 Monthly : 52.49 / 47.51```
[2017-03-21 03:19:02] abbey : critical point