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[2017-03-20 21:52:03] Winklevoss : how less profit?
[2017-03-20 21:52:12] Winklevoss : Tetsuo: he didn't say here
[2017-03-20 21:52:17] aron : ahhere you make same profit with lower leverage
[2017-03-20 21:52:21] Winklevoss : BTCe for example would work
[2017-03-20 21:52:23] aron : i mean lower liq position
[2017-03-20 21:52:44] Winklevoss : aron: exactly, same profit just more room for risk
[2017-03-20 21:52:44] Tetsuo : you can do that for smaller alts, but certainly not for BTC
[2017-03-20 21:52:51] cmwprice : /sentiment
[2017-03-20 21:52:53] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 31.70 / 68.30 Daily : 49.65 / 50.35 Weekly : 55.82 / 44.18 Monthly : 52.57 / 47.43```
[2017-03-20 21:53:01] Ahhere : lower liq position = smaller position size per person = smaller profit per person
[2017-03-20 21:53:43] Winklevoss : your liq price is based on the margin, more people= greater margin put up = profit split stays same
[2017-03-20 21:53:53] stf28 : fcuk this will lead to a motherfcuker green big candle
[2017-03-20 21:54:02] Winklevoss : stf28: hopefully
[2017-03-20 21:54:33] Winklevoss : we could see 1065?
[2017-03-20 21:54:41] Winklevoss : if we surpass 1050
[2017-03-20 21:54:46] stf28 : it seems to be a breakout from the declining line from the last high of march 6th
[2017-03-20 21:54:46] Ahhere : 1300 FTW!
[2017-03-20 21:54:59] stf28 : yeah first i see 1060-65
[2017-03-20 21:55:21] stf28 : and if this is it market could consider uptrend again
[2017-03-20 21:55:30] Dnavid : 1075 is 1000€
[2017-03-20 21:55:41] stf28 : bienvu
[2017-03-20 21:55:52] Ahhere : Dnavid: dammit theres always something in the way of the moon
[2017-03-20 21:56:03] Dnavid : sorry
[2017-03-20 21:56:20] Ahhere : Dnavid: its not your fault. I'm sorry.
[2017-03-20 21:56:47] Dnavid : my liquidation is currently under 1100...
[2017-03-20 21:56:58] Dnavid : short
[2017-03-20 21:57:02] aron : winklevoss i hate the fact that if i put a buy order of 1052 right now it would but it for me
[2017-03-20 21:57:08] aron : instantly
[2017-03-20 21:57:17] aron : i want it to reach 1052 before buying
[2017-03-20 21:57:21] cmwprice : Dnavid: I think we're going down again before up
[2017-03-20 21:57:36] cmwprice : But yeah, if we pass 1050 we'll go up
[2017-03-20 21:57:43] aron : (so that i jump on the uptrend)
[2017-03-20 21:57:53] Dnavid : looka like if coins split we hit $500
[2017-03-20 21:58:05] aron : dnavid what?
[2017-03-20 21:58:13] aron : if coin split we hit 1500?
[2017-03-20 21:58:26] Ahhere : I think he said if we have a split we hit 15000
[2017-03-20 21:58:30] Dynamix : Dnavid: 1$
[2017-03-20 21:58:34] Ahhere : *spliff
[2017-03-20 21:58:35] aron : $.0001
[2017-03-20 21:58:45] zy : Dnavid: it's like to be worse, bcc + bcu < btc
[2017-03-20 21:58:51] Dnavid : they're pricing bcc 700 btu 300, average is 500
[2017-03-20 21:58:53] zy : *likely
[2017-03-20 21:59:32] zy : when hard fork happens no one knows which one will become the longer chain, why would people hold instead of sell?
[2017-03-20 21:59:36] Dnavid : btu + bcc "may" go back up to 1500
[2017-03-20 22:00:07] Dnavid : zy: right
[2017-03-20 22:00:42] Ahhere : zy: because if you buy after fork you only get one fork in case of two surviving coins. Ideal is buy at the lowest price before the fork that guarantees you both coins. Then moon after dust settles.
[2017-03-20 22:01:23] juster : aron: use stop limit
[2017-03-20 22:02:13] cmwprice : /sentiment
[2017-03-20 22:02:16] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 31.60 / 68.40 Daily : 49.33 / 50.67 Weekly : 55.81 / 44.19 Monthly : 52.57 / 47.43```
[2017-03-20 22:02:24] Dnavid : According to a twitter dude if you hold during fork you get the coins as a proportion of hash power for each coin
[2017-03-20 22:02:38] zy : Ahhere: you really do think bcu/bcc will moon after the fork?
[2017-03-20 22:04:10] Dnavid : zy: there was so much media exposure and new wallet users during winkelviss fiasco
[2017-03-20 22:04:42] Dnavid : that imo it is going to strongly pick up
[2017-03-20 22:04:55] Tetsuo : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPQpbm8j504
[2017-03-20 22:05:50] zy : oh wow, maybe I should just hold my coins and become a millionaire by the end of the year then :)
[2017-03-20 22:10:46] stf28 : you know the story of this guy whou offered a pizza worth 10 000BTC ... in 2010 ?
[2017-03-20 22:11:33] Dnavid : zy: no, but after they reach $500, they may become attractive
[2017-03-20 22:12:03] zy : so it WILL go down to 500 then?
[2017-03-20 22:12:52] Dnavid : That's what they're pricing the split in bitfinex futitres
[2017-03-20 22:12:59] Dnavid : futures
[2017-03-20 22:15:22] Dnavid : zy: if you get $850 per bitcoin And $250 per bitcoin unlimited and there is 51% hash power at time of split: how much is each coin worth after the split?
[2017-03-20 22:15:32] Dnavid : In average I mean
[2017-03-20 22:15:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: sell 3 @ 0.041480
[2017-03-20 22:17:44] zy : average will be less than 550 because of uncertainty
[2017-03-20 22:17:53] Dnavid : zy: right
[2017-03-20 22:18:34] Dnavid : $400 is hard bittom because below miners start bleeding cAsh
[2017-03-20 22:18:58] zy : miners don't determine the price
[2017-03-20 22:19:08] Dnavid : so they make less coins and hoard and so price goes up
[2017-03-20 22:19:29] Dnavid : right bit it costs them and they make the difference between that and the price
[2017-03-20 22:19:43] Dnavid : bow 400 they have to stop
[2017-03-20 22:20:15] Dnavid : and they also make the bitcoins
[2017-03-20 22:21:53] Ahhere : Good luck with $550 corns this better than @rapidtrades
[2017-03-20 22:24:02] Edujatahy : /price
[2017-03-20 22:24:06] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1038.94 (0.78%) Bitfinex : 1044.30 (1.38%) The Woodchipper : 1044.99 (1.20%) itBit : 1044.76 (1.26%) Kraken : 1032.72 (1.71%) GDAX : 1045.38 (1.42%) SLQ : 1 hour, 12 mins```
[2017-03-20 22:27:15] atodorov07 : Tetsuo: and thats why hitler was right!
[2017-03-20 22:35:10] Tetsuo : wut?
[2017-03-20 22:37:18] KyllingLolsson : Wut?
[2017-03-20 22:43:36] Tetsuo : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fR_8gpJCT4I
[2017-03-20 22:43:39] Tetsuo : brutal as fukk
[2017-03-20 22:44:18] Tetsuo : Analog harsh noise FTW
[2017-03-20 22:46:00] Tetsuo : max volume yields max results
[2017-03-20 22:47:48] Tetsuo : noise/grind next https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n183mB9vMQw
[2017-03-20 22:54:10] Tetsuo : for the deathmetalheads: https://youtu.be/09dFfqdVDi0?t=30s
[2017-03-20 22:54:52] Tetsuo : for the surreal blackened metal heads: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emrBZZtGFgI
[2017-03-20 22:55:36] Tetsuo : for the jap grinders : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mINKK1Hpm3c
[2017-03-20 22:56:35] DoubleU : lol who put that big wall up on DASH
[2017-03-20 22:56:47] Tetsuo : me
[2017-03-20 22:56:47] DoubleU : trying to short expecting this is the top?
[2017-03-20 22:57:00] DoubleU : or trying to get a long filled with that scare wall
[2017-03-20 23:05:35] KingTuna : Im short on BTC... With all this fork FUD., should prob be a lot lower
[2017-03-20 23:06:23] cmwprice : /sentiment
[2017-03-20 23:06:26] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 58.57 / 41.43 Daily : 49.33 / 50.67 Weekly : 55.80 / 44.20 Monthly : 52.55 / 47.45```
[2017-03-20 23:07:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 814 @ 1032.24
[2017-03-20 23:07:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTM17`: sell 3500 @ 1043.53
[2017-03-20 23:21:12] btcbiter : Hi
[2017-03-20 23:21:26] btcbiter : bitmex no need to verification steps?
[2017-03-20 23:29:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: sell 122 @ 0.039990
[2017-03-20 23:29:24] zach719 : /price
[2017-03-20 23:29:27] XXXX : Just got a missed call from +248 6 429 266. It is a seychelles number? Is it related bitmex? Any admins here?
[2017-03-20 23:29:28] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1036.45 (-0.24%) Bitfinex : 1036.10 (-0.79%) The Woodchipper : 1038.05 (-0.66%) itBit : 1039.04 (-0.55%) Kraken : 1033.34 (0.06%) GDAX : 1041.54 (-0.37%) SLQ : 1 hour, 5 mins```
[2017-03-20 23:30:17] XXXX : Tetsuo: thanks. Any idea why woukd bitmex call me?
[2017-03-20 23:30:24] Tetsuo : are you from USA, maybe your funds got confiscated!
[2017-03-20 23:30:53] XXXX : Tetsuo: not usa. My account is still operable.
[2017-03-20 23:31:57] BitMEX_Sam : That's not our number. We don't call our users.
[2017-03-20 23:32:19] Sultan Pepper : Prank call time!
[2017-03-20 23:33:04] XXXX : BitMEX_Sam: Thanks for clarification. Maybe a phishing call from someone then.
[2017-03-20 23:33:09] Ahhere : Sultan Pepper: lol
[2017-03-20 23:33:19] BitMEX_Sam : XXXX: Possibly; but 100% not related to us.
[2017-03-20 23:33:55] Tetsuo : https://www.shouldianswer.net/phone-number/+2486429266
[2017-03-20 23:34:09] XXXX : BitMEX_Sam: much appreciated. I wil just ignore it if i get it again.
[2017-03-20 23:34:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 602 @ 1035.96
[2017-03-20 23:35:54] KingTuna : I'm so heavily short. With all this forking FUD, I cannot see BTC holding up $1k
[2017-03-20 23:36:17] mtourig3 : KingTuna: agreed
[2017-03-20 23:36:37] Ahhere : disagreed (for balance)
[2017-03-20 23:37:07] KingTuna : And if I am wrong, liquidate my ass
[2017-03-20 23:37:23] Ahhere : KingTuna: as you wish
[2017-03-20 23:37:32] Ahhere : :(
[2017-03-20 23:37:35] KingTuna : LOL
[2017-03-20 23:39:43] MikeHunt : i expect a short squeeze first
[2017-03-20 23:39:43] MikeHunt : to 1200
[2017-03-20 23:39:47] MikeHunt : then down
[2017-03-20 23:40:27] Ahhere : MikeHunt: i thought it was just me being optimistic
[2017-03-20 23:40:30] atodorov07 : dash finally starting to crash
[2017-03-20 23:40:43] aethlios : Estimated Hashrate by Bitcoin Client Unlimited: 1,369PH/s (41.96%) Core: 1,872PH/s (57.37%) Other: 22PH/s (0.67%) new high for BU 42%
[2017-03-20 23:40:43] DoubleU : someone unloading DASH
[2017-03-20 23:40:51] DoubleU : of course doing it in the worst way possible.
[2017-03-20 23:41:15] Tetsuo : aethlios: gdax enabled 3x margin trading, no need to use Finex anymore
[2017-03-20 23:41:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `DASH7D`: sell 515 @ 0.094526
[2017-03-20 23:41:53] atodorov07 : dash longs prepare to be rekt
[2017-03-20 23:41:57] XXXX : Tetsuo: GDAX terms and conditions are shit
[2017-03-20 23:41:59] aethlios : Tetsuo: i think they have volume gaps, also they don't allow me (europe) to trade usd pair.
[2017-03-20 23:42:08] Tetsuo : ah ok
[2017-03-20 23:42:09] ross : @zen_trader did you add your eth to the books?
[2017-03-20 23:42:11] aethlios : Tetsuo: volume cap
[2017-03-20 23:42:25] Tetsuo : aethlios: volume cap?
[2017-03-20 23:42:58] aethlios : Tetsuo: you can trade much every month
[2017-03-20 23:43:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `DASH7D`: sell 1 @ 0.093773
[2017-03-20 23:43:21] Tetsuo : crash dash trash
[2017-03-20 23:43:28] Ahhere : atodorov07: on the daily it doesnt look dead yet. still too scary to short
[2017-03-20 23:45:19] emcor : guys
[2017-03-20 23:45:24] emcor : https://news.bitcoin.com/this-happens-to-your-coins-during-a-bitcoin-hard-fork-and-possible-blockchain-split/?utm_source=OneSignal%20Push&utm_medium=notification&utm_campaign=Push%20Notifications
[2017-03-20 23:45:47] emcor : it seems it that it could be that exchanges deprive you of your BTU if they only list BTC
[2017-03-20 23:45:58] atodorov07 : dash cra$h <3
[2017-03-20 23:45:58] emcor : and withdrawals halted
[2017-03-20 23:46:15] atodorov07 : good thing I had the balls to hold my short
[2017-03-20 23:47:23] ross : atodorov07: i lost a lot of money on my long
[2017-03-20 23:48:44] Tetsuo : ross: why would you long dash about 0.01?
[2017-03-20 23:49:07] ross : all a learning curve
[2017-03-20 23:49:08] atodorov07 : ross: I shorted it earlier today & a few hours ago someone market bought around 4k. and pushed it back above 0.1 .. almost got margin called. was thinking about exiting my position flat. good thing I didn't .
[2017-03-20 23:49:46] ross : theres over 800btc short at 0.096
[2017-03-20 23:50:05] ross : might go short around there
[2017-03-20 23:50:08] Guille : hello all. I am about to use the leverage account. My question is: If I want to buy 100ETH at 25x leverage. How much it would cost the excution? Just the spread bid/offer? Margin 0.1066XBT and order value: 2.07BXT. Does it mean that I would still have 1.9634BXT to protect my position opened in case the price goes against me? Thanks
[2017-03-20 23:51:36] Tetsuo : XMR&ETH will crash soon
[2017-03-20 23:51:43] DorianWhack-A-Moto : hi everybody. whos ready to make some $$$ !
[2017-03-20 23:52:12] MikeHunt : Tetsuo: +1
[2017-03-20 23:52:34] MikeHunt : Guille: it costs 25x less than 1x
[2017-03-20 23:55:42] MikeHunt : Guille: also warning if ur new, leverage can rape ur wallet quickly
[2017-03-20 23:58:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `DASH7D`: sell 467 @ 0.092644
[2017-03-20 23:59:56] KingTuna : I get the impression that alts are beginning to fizzle
[2017-03-21 00:00:00] BTCDJS : Tetsuo: why do you say that?
[2017-03-21 00:06:29] Guille : MikeHunt: yes yes thanks, i know the meaning of leverage, but then look this example and tell me if I am rite: buy 50ETH at 25x at 0.04140 which cost 0.1066BXT and its an order value of 2.07XBT. If I have 1XBT in my balance: (1-0.1066)/2.07=43.16% Does it mean that my position would remain open unless the price of the ETH/XBT goes below 0.0235 which would be the spot price - 43.16% of it ?? thanks
[2017-03-21 00:06:49] DoubleU : DASH new low
[2017-03-21 00:06:57] DoubleU : finally broke 0.093
[2017-03-21 00:07:08] needmoneyquick : will it keep going?
[2017-03-21 00:08:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `DASH7D`: sell 150 @ 0.091545
[2017-03-21 00:08:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `DASH7D`: sell 3 @ 0.090853
[2017-03-21 00:09:15] MikeHunt : - @Guille u get liquidated if it goes wrong direction by so much
[2017-03-21 00:09:33] MikeHunt : Guille: tells u liquidation price in order confirm box
[2017-03-21 00:10:27] Guille : MikeHunt: ahhh ok ok, never put an order, so did not know that. thanks man
[2017-03-21 00:11:08] Guille : MikeHunt: is it better to trade Ethereum or Ethereum Classic? i see more volatility in Ethereum, not?
[2017-03-21 00:12:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `XRP7D`: sell 4000 @ 0.00000671
[2017-03-21 00:12:39] stf28 : why here price so low ?
[2017-03-21 00:12:52] MikeHunt : Guille: asking for advice in trollbox is generally a bad idea, if u dont know then u probably shouldnt be trading
[2017-03-21 00:13:13] MikeHunt : Guille: altcoin liquidity can be a bit crap here
[2017-03-21 00:13:32] MikeHunt : trading advice*
[2017-03-21 00:13:51] DoubleU : BTC looks about ready to break up
[2017-03-21 00:13:55] DoubleU : $1100 incoming
[2017-03-21 00:14:42] Sultan Pepper : STOP FU.CKING UP MY FUNDING YOU SHITS
[2017-03-21 00:15:29] Winklevoss : DoubleU: No sir, we just tickle the nipples 1060 then go for the mouth later.
[2017-03-21 00:15:41] DorianWhack-A-Moto : DoubleU: you vill lose
[2017-03-21 00:16:16] Sultan Pepper : Great short spot here
[2017-03-21 00:16:19] DorianWhack-A-Moto : seriously though expect it to be between 1000-1060
[2017-03-21 00:16:27] Sultan Pepper : all of you should short now
[2017-03-21 00:17:04] MikeHunt : Sultan Pepper: 1200
[2017-03-21 00:17:08] MikeHunt : shorts will cry
[2017-03-21 00:17:53] needmoneyquick : shorting in dangerous dash,xmr,eth have got billions of dollars in growth last few weeks
[2017-03-21 00:18:04] zach719 : Sultan Pepper: never short
[2017-03-21 00:18:09] needmoneyquick : blockchain is catching on
[2017-03-21 00:19:58] Tetsuo : max short alts
[2017-03-21 00:21:50] Winklevoss : Tetsuo: why?
[2017-03-21 00:22:18] needmoneyquick : really tetsuo?
[2017-03-21 00:22:20] DangerandPlay : Dash will implode soon. It's inevitable. Short shit coins all you want.
[2017-03-21 00:22:21] Tetsuo : parabolic pump stagnating, not sustainable?
[2017-03-21 00:22:44] needmoneyquick : dash has everything is masternodes it wont crash
[2017-03-21 00:23:12] DangerandPlay : hahaha
[2017-03-21 00:23:18] DangerandPlay : ok. Extend your longs.
[2017-03-21 00:23:29] needmoneyquick : ok buddy
[2017-03-21 00:23:43] laisee : parabolas have a way of going down, something to do with math
[2017-03-21 00:23:45] needmoneyquick : i hate dash too lol but they have a good plan with the nodes
[2017-03-21 00:24:10] Tetsuo : yeah buddy ur a bit late
[2017-03-21 00:24:22] DangerandPlay : doesnt change the fact that the coin has zero real fundamentals and is a scam coin from the outset
[2017-03-21 00:24:28] luric : my advice is don't listen to no one in here just keep an open mind to what is said, do your technical and fundamental research and stick to your guts
[2017-03-21 00:24:33] laisee : my calc was lazy
[2017-03-21 00:24:36] DangerandPlay : theres no reason for this ridiculous pump and it is not sustainable
[2017-03-21 00:24:39] needmoneyquick : yeah I agree @DangerandPlay
[2017-03-21 00:24:51] Winklevoss : luric: agreed
[2017-03-21 00:24:53] DoubleU : ETH next leg up coming soon
[2017-03-21 00:24:56] DoubleU : 0.05
[2017-03-21 00:25:03] needmoneyquick : do you think they'll screw over the people who have invested in hosting a masternode and not selling out?
[2017-03-21 00:25:12] Winklevoss : if you think coin is a scam you're short sighted
[2017-03-21 00:25:15] Tetsuo : alt buyers here are a day late a dollar short
[2017-03-21 00:26:12] Tetsuo : buying into alt bubbles after 500-1000% rise isn´t the smart way
[2017-03-21 00:26:25] KingTuna : Totally agree
[2017-03-21 00:26:37] DangerandPlay : it's not whether or not they will screw anyone over, it's the simple fact that the market won't sustain this pump for long. It is hollow.
[2017-03-21 00:26:47] KingTuna : I'm out, made my fortune.. 35 BTC worth
[2017-03-21 00:26:49] needmoneyquick : who have to agree billions of dollars are not coming from nowhere
[2017-03-21 00:27:23] Tetsuo : they will just switch frrom one coin to the next, or even better to USD
[2017-03-21 00:27:26] laisee : not true, they came from a guy called 'Gratest Fule'
[2017-03-21 00:27:50] laisee : he funds all the bubles
[2017-03-21 00:28:35] needmoneyquick : or maybe the us government buying to erase their debt
[2017-03-21 00:28:57] Tetsuo : dure
[2017-03-21 00:29:00] Tetsuo : *s
[2017-03-21 00:29:22] Tetsuo : Trump bought all the Dash
[2017-03-21 00:30:08] needmoneyquick : lol dash is terrible I know but theres something big going on here
[2017-03-21 00:30:25] Tetsuo : it´s called pump and dump
[2017-03-21 00:30:43] needmoneyquick : ok man 4 billion dollars to eth
[2017-03-21 00:30:54] needmoneyquick : i've been following blockchain a long time
[2017-03-21 00:31:03] DoubleU : poloniex down
[2017-03-21 00:31:11] Tetsuo : HACKED AND ROBBED?
[2017-03-21 00:31:45] ross : i hope so
[2017-03-21 00:31:49] ross : piece of shit site
[2017-03-21 00:32:13] DoubleU : lol i'm sure BTC are safe
[2017-03-21 00:32:20] DoubleU : but man if all those alts got hacked
[2017-03-21 00:36:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `DASH7D`: buy 49 @ 0.095949
[2017-03-21 00:36:31] DoubleU : Nice dash bounce
[2017-03-21 00:36:51] DoubleU : Long into the margin calls walls sell higher
[2017-03-21 00:38:51] Sultan Pepper : zach719: if you never short, you'll miss half of the world's pleasures. It's like being straight or gay
[2017-03-21 00:39:12] Sultan Pepper : Short btc now!
[2017-03-21 00:39:30] zach719 : Sultan Pepper: nah im good :)
[2017-03-21 00:39:54] Sultan Pepper : Must be unisexual...
[2017-03-21 00:40:07] KingTuna : Ah BTC we know you're eventually gonna Fork FUD dump, just do it already
[2017-03-21 00:40:18] Sultan Pepper : Try some pssy once in a while @zach719
[2017-03-21 00:40:41] Nur : hey bitmex why cant i withdraw everything from my account?
[2017-03-21 00:40:55] Nur : there's like 3 usd in btc that you wont allow to withdraw why?
[2017-03-21 00:41:11] Sultan Pepper : Nur: fees, open position, rounded up?
[2017-03-21 00:41:25] Winklevoss : Nur: You have to upgrade to premium
[2017-03-21 00:41:26] Nur : all close no position
[2017-03-21 00:41:28] Winklevoss : quick
[2017-03-21 00:41:33] Sultan Pepper : Nur: fees
[2017-03-21 00:41:37] j8 : min withdrawal fee is 0.003
[2017-03-21 00:41:38] Nur : how to upgrade to premium
[2017-03-21 00:41:51] Nur : ok
[2017-03-21 00:42:01] Winklevoss : quick sign up before discount expires
[2017-03-21 00:42:08] Winklevoss : it was meant to be midnight still on
[2017-03-21 00:42:42] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 7 @ 1047.49
[2017-03-21 00:42:47] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 190 @ 1047.69
[2017-03-21 00:43:15] DoubleU : BTC a few dollars from new high on this bounce
[2017-03-21 00:43:50] Winklevoss : Nur: talk to admin, I'm kidding no need for premium
[2017-03-21 00:44:16] Winklevoss : 3 usd may be under withdrawal minimum
[2017-03-21 00:46:25] aethlios : bitmex should offer free withdrawals for below 500 usd accounts.
[2017-03-21 00:46:38] aethlios : they make so musc money now.
[2017-03-21 00:46:44] l3f : momo's turning up now
[2017-03-21 00:46:50] l3f : bitcoin might pop
[2017-03-21 00:47:11] l3f : aethlios: I think it's actually bottom
[2017-03-21 00:48:00] aethlios : i say 825 next target after retrace over.
[2017-03-21 00:48:28] Winklevoss : aethlios: 825 on the next HF news
[2017-03-21 00:49:05] Winklevoss : until then we range baby
[2017-03-21 00:50:01] aethlios : SW won't happen with 95%, btc can't keep going up with out fees go to the roof making it useless. so either HF or useless 30 usd network.
[2017-03-21 00:50:24] aethlios : 30 usd fees network
[2017-03-21 00:51:24] aethlios : manu unconfirmed transactions increase security network issues.
[2017-03-21 00:51:57] Winklevoss : Segwit = 30 usd fees?
[2017-03-21 00:52:09] l3f : aethlios: they can change POW without a soft fork
[2017-03-21 00:52:24] DorianWhack-A-Moto : dont trust this leg up. careful bulls.
[2017-03-21 00:52:32] l3f : if BU takes over (forces activation with 80%) nodes
[2017-03-21 00:52:34] Speran49 : wtf is going on with this wall at 1053
[2017-03-21 00:52:40] Speran49 : anyone find it odd?
[2017-03-21 00:52:42] l3f : then BU wins clearly and they becomes the network
[2017-03-21 00:52:44] Winklevoss : Speran49: no
[2017-03-21 00:52:47] Winklevoss : it makes sense
[2017-03-21 00:52:49] DorianWhack-A-Moto : Speran49: yes
[2017-03-21 00:52:50] Speran49 : why?
[2017-03-21 00:52:55] Speran49 : why does it makes sense
[2017-03-21 00:52:56] l3f : CoreCoin will be forced to hard fork
[2017-03-21 00:53:00] Winklevoss : there is uncertainity so we are ranging
[2017-03-21 00:53:02] l3f : (or softfork to change pow)
[2017-03-21 00:53:05] l3f : or they'll die
[2017-03-21 00:53:08] Winklevoss : until news on direction
[2017-03-21 00:53:14] Speran49 : yeah obvious
[2017-03-21 00:53:19] Speran49 : but look at t1053 buy wall
[2017-03-21 00:53:20] Farzad : l3f: +1
[2017-03-21 00:53:22] Speran49 : seems odd
[2017-03-21 00:53:31] DorianWhack-A-Moto : BU getting more hashpower every day. Can't sustain a high price with HF coming
[2017-03-21 00:53:36] Winklevoss : you don't like 1053 as a number
[2017-03-21 00:53:37] aethlios : l3f: and all investments in asics what will happen?? I think BU is a straight solution, core is afraid of HF and team is chickens.
[2017-03-21 00:53:41] Speran49 : lol
[2017-03-21 00:53:46] Winklevoss : try 1060
[2017-03-21 00:53:48] l3f : aethlios: they have no choice
[2017-03-21 00:53:48] Winklevoss : is that cuter
[2017-03-21 00:53:50] Farzad : /fork
[2017-03-21 00:53:51] trollbot : ``` Bitfinex BCC : 835.00 (2.44%) Bitfinex BCU : 212.55 (-3.39%) SLQ : 4 hours, 44 mins```
[2017-03-21 00:53:52] l3f : BU has more has power
[2017-03-21 00:53:59] Speran49 : /sentiment
[2017-03-21 00:54:01] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 33.46 / 66.54 Daily : 47.21 / 52.79 Weekly : 55.75 / 44.25 Monthly : 52.53 / 47.47```
[2017-03-21 00:54:08] Farzad : funny BCU price is falling
[2017-03-21 00:54:10] Winklevoss : we hit 1060 2 days ago 1053 not even a wall
[2017-03-21 00:54:24] l3f : Farzad: because it resets to zero if there's no hard fork
[2017-03-21 00:54:29] l3f : bfx's a joke
[2017-03-21 00:54:36] l3f : BU doesn't want a hard fork
[2017-03-21 00:54:38] l3f : they want a take over
[2017-03-21 00:54:46] Winklevoss : l3f: by HF'ing
[2017-03-21 00:54:48] aethlios : l3f: i aggree, BU takes over, core team goes to implement SW and LN in LTC and LTC is the new btc core and ralliew to 100!!!
[2017-03-21 00:54:54] Winklevoss : they don't give a fuck about the scaling issue
[2017-03-21 00:55:04] l3f : Winklevoss: no, they will have majority of the hash power
[2017-03-21 00:55:21] l3f : aethlios: Pretty much
[2017-03-21 00:55:32] l3f : So I think bitcoin's bottomed as far as I can tell
[2017-03-21 00:55:40] Tetsuo : yeah, pump my LTC to 100$ , it´s about time bitches
[2017-03-21 00:55:41] l3f : all indictors say momo moving up
[2017-03-21 00:56:00] Winklevoss : spinning tops here, where we headed?
[2017-03-21 00:56:17] Tetsuo : moon for some doom for the others
[2017-03-21 00:56:38] Winklevoss : spinning tops aren't moon or doom tickets
[2017-03-21 00:56:42] aethlios : l3f: so BCU on finex is a good buy now??
[2017-03-21 00:56:43] Winklevoss : they're totems to check reality
[2017-03-21 00:57:24] l3f : aethlios: No because BU won't hard fork and they will never add replay protection
[2017-03-21 00:57:33] l3f : because BU intends on taking over
[2017-03-21 00:57:44] l3f : bfx's bet includes replay protection which they will never add
[2017-03-21 00:59:50] aethlios : l3f: who will this work? if BU has 70% of hash, how they will force the software to change??
[2017-03-21 00:59:59] aethlios : how...
[2017-03-21 01:00:09] l3f : BU reaches 80%, becomes activated, 80% of the miners start making big blocks. BU runs a large 80%+ hash rate network.
[2017-03-21 01:00:44] aethlios : ah, they need 80% to activate? (like SW needs 95%??)
[2017-03-21 01:01:05] l3f : If you're a miner, and you upgrade, you mine on the BU network. If you don't upgrade, you mine on the BCC chain. However, because bitcoin's difficulty adjustment, that chain will be extremely hard to mine for 3 months
[2017-03-21 01:01:41] l3f : Should this happen, the minority chain (BCC) will be forced to change POW or hard fork
[2017-03-21 01:02:26] l3f : BU will not add replay protection because they are in a position of strength (core is the minority chain at this point)
[2017-03-21 01:02:26] aethlios : will they reach 80%?? sounds difficult?
[2017-03-21 01:02:49] laisee : +1 on what l3f said.
[2017-03-21 01:02:53] datboiyuan : There's no threshold to activate, 80% has been thrown around due to the difficulty algo argument
[2017-03-21 01:02:56] l3f : aethlios: https://coin.dance/blocks/historical
[2017-03-21 01:02:58] l3f : They are gaining
[2017-03-21 01:03:00] aethlios : yes nice alanysis
[2017-03-21 01:03:22] laisee : BU has momentum and miner support ... 70% or more miners and ~1000 nodes enough to fork the network. Core will die.
[2017-03-21 01:03:26] Winklevoss : they've lost 4% in 1 hr
[2017-03-21 01:03:26] datboiyuan : they could do it today yesterday tomorrow, more hp gives them more control
[2017-03-21 01:03:31] Winklevoss : fuck them
[2017-03-21 01:03:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XMR7D`: sell 40 @ 0.021205
[2017-03-21 01:03:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `XRP7D`: sell 9995 @ 0.00000659
[2017-03-21 01:03:43] datboiyuan : you're wrong
[2017-03-21 01:03:53] Winklevoss : Also bear in mind. If BU activates, bitcoin.com owned by the BU camp will exploit the media buzz and attract the public. Merchants will support both coins in order to continue business. BU will become synonymous with Bitcoin to the public
[2017-03-21 01:03:54] datboiyuan : there will be no fork
[2017-03-21 01:04:05] l3f : With the above analysis in mind
[2017-03-21 01:04:14] l3f : What do you make of the price action right now
[2017-03-21 01:04:21] laisee : no fork by BU ... BU has no activiation code.
[2017-03-21 01:04:27] Winklevoss : if there is a fork @80% , BTC stands very little chance
[2017-03-21 01:05:17] Tetsuo : price will go up until bad news smash the market down in a second
[2017-03-21 01:05:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `XMR7D`: sell 100 @ 0.020912
[2017-03-21 01:05:26] Tetsuo : like BU above 50%
[2017-03-21 01:05:30] l3f : Suppose BU does not reach 80%, then the status quo is maintained and nothing changes. Suppose BU reaches 80%, then bitcoin core will be forced to make some hard choices
[2017-03-21 01:05:46] laisee : Fork will be good for Bitcoin imho. Too much talk and fighting for last 2-3 years
[2017-03-21 01:06:03] l3f : I think if BU wins then the block chain is scaled, capacity increased
[2017-03-21 01:06:07] l3f : I think that's bullish
[2017-03-21 01:06:15] DorianWhack-A-Moto : a coin split will be disastrous but the reality is that is where we are headed.
[2017-03-21 01:06:18] Winklevoss : laisee: There are other solutions apart from fork, especially the flavor BU offers
[2017-03-21 01:06:18] Tetsuo : Goodbye XMR
[2017-03-21 01:06:34] laisee : Winklevoss: solutions like?
[2017-03-21 01:06:36] KingTuna : I am very unsure where BTC is going right now. Although, commonsense would say down based on market sentiment to do with the Hard Fork.. very cpnfused!
[2017-03-21 01:06:38] Sultan Pepper : Funding is getting out of control! Short this now!
[2017-03-21 01:06:38] DorianWhack-A-Moto : cheap XMR
[2017-03-21 01:06:57] Winklevoss : I'm not a dev expert
[2017-03-21 01:06:58] Winklevoss : https://blog.coinbase.com/scaling-bitcoin-the-great-block-size-debate-d2cba9021db0#.ucjfo8a6h
[2017-03-21 01:07:07] Winklevoss : short term and long-term solutions
[2017-03-21 01:07:29] laisee : Winklevoss: thought u meant adding Segwit ro BU, extended blocks etc
[2017-03-21 01:07:29] l3f : There are a lot of whales profit taking right now though
[2017-03-21 01:07:38] KingTuna : So do we kind of get some free BTU here at Bitmex for holding BTC?
[2017-03-21 01:07:49] stf28 : l3f: where doyou see that?
[2017-03-21 01:07:56] Winklevoss : KingTuna: Not free, it will acc cost you
[2017-03-21 01:07:57] Tetsuo : KingTuna: yes
[2017-03-21 01:08:06] l3f : stf28: massive sell walls on bfx and stamp
[2017-03-21 01:08:10] Winklevoss : you will have two sets of coins, but an overall loss in value
[2017-03-21 01:08:11] laisee : buy 1 get 1 ;-)
[2017-03-21 01:08:25] l3f : but stamp just at a 120 btc wall
[2017-03-21 01:08:31] l3f : ate*
[2017-03-21 01:08:41] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 99091 @ 1051.75 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2017-03-21 01:09:50] Winklevoss : /sentiment
[2017-03-21 01:09:53] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 47.55 / 52.45 Daily : 47.37 / 52.63 Weekly : 55.75 / 44.25 Monthly : 52.53 / 47.47```
[2017-03-21 01:12:00] l3f : I think once BU reaches 50%+ the future of btc is secured
[2017-03-21 01:12:13] l3f : and it'll be 2k when BU reaches 80%
[2017-03-21 01:12:26] Rado : l3f: you are BU believer?
[2017-03-21 01:12:31] j8 : delusional
[2017-03-21 01:12:37] Rado : lol
[2017-03-21 01:12:39] l3f : Rado: I used to hate BU but now I understand it
[2017-03-21 01:12:39] Winklevoss : BTC unsecured BU secured
[2017-03-21 01:12:39] Rado : yeah
[2017-03-21 01:12:39] Tetsuo : ^this
[2017-03-21 01:12:53] Rado : l3f: you don't seem to understand
[2017-03-21 01:12:59] l3f : Rado: Then enlighten me
[2017-03-21 01:13:06] Rado : their code is very bad and no enough good developers to support it
[2017-03-21 01:13:25] l3f : Rado: Once the core chain dies these kinds of things will be improved
[2017-03-21 01:13:29] Rado : where bitcoin core has over 100 of the best developers in the world
[2017-03-21 01:13:42] l3f : Rado: That's just core propaganda and you know it
[2017-03-21 01:13:46] Rado : l3f: why risk it when you can use the good code?
[2017-03-21 01:13:56] j8 : core chain won't die, at least not without putting up a fight
[2017-03-21 01:13:59] Rado : bitocin core can also hard fork and increase the block size if they want to
[2017-03-21 01:14:05] Rado : they are trying to be careful
[2017-03-21 01:14:10] Rado : no need to use BU code at all
[2017-03-21 01:14:17] KingTuna : Looks like BTC may edge up this time.. I am changing my mind by the minute.. If it does, then 1100
[2017-03-21 01:14:20] l3f : Developers always work on the most popular project
[2017-03-21 01:14:24] aethlios : l3f: do you think one sell leg happens if 50% rached by BU and market thinks a hard fork happens?? then as they don't for and keep growing their hash rate, rally to 2,000
[2017-03-21 01:14:37] Rado : which will never be BU
[2017-03-21 01:15:08] l3f : aethlios: If price keeps moving up while BU hash rate is moving up then I'm assuming the market likes BU
[2017-03-21 01:15:15] Rado : ETH dip buyers will cry soon
[2017-03-21 01:15:24] l3f : Since it means bitcoin's actually reducing the uncertainity
[2017-03-21 01:15:26] Tetsuo : BU getting activated is a bears wet dream
[2017-03-21 01:15:41] l3f : entropy drops when there is less uncertainty
[2017-03-21 01:15:49] Tetsuo : Rado: yeah ETH will crash soon
[2017-03-21 01:16:01] l3f : If it becomes clear that there is a clear path forward then price should rally
[2017-03-21 01:16:11] Rado : Tetsuo: I might double my short from 0.043 soon
[2017-03-21 01:16:11] needmoneyquick : dash about to pump
[2017-03-21 01:16:27] Rado : needmoneyquick: pump towards 0.07
[2017-03-21 01:16:32] Tetsuo : needmoneyquick: sry for your loss
[2017-03-21 01:16:55] Rado : why are people so naive
[2017-03-21 01:17:14] Rado : these shit coins had 100s of % increase and they think they will never come down
[2017-03-21 01:17:26] l3f : Rado: Like bitcoin right?
[2017-03-21 01:17:34] l3f : Keeps rallying and never stopping?
[2017-03-21 01:17:35] Rado : yes
[2017-03-21 01:17:38] KingTuna : Rado: Coz they never saw 2013
[2017-03-21 01:17:38] needmoneyquick : youre naive for not seeing whats happening
[2017-03-21 01:17:40] Rado : bitcoin is not immune
[2017-03-21 01:17:42] j8 : they're like bitcoin on fast-forward
[2017-03-21 01:17:44] Rado : but is the best coin
[2017-03-21 01:17:52] Tetsuo : i´m short XMR&ETH&DASH, and forthe next hours/days long BTC(plz don´t tell rapid)
[2017-03-21 01:17:54] needmoneyquick : dash has 1 million coins in circulation
[2017-03-21 01:17:59] needmoneyquick : rest in nodes
[2017-03-21 01:18:07] Rado : Tetsuo: lol
[2017-03-21 01:18:32] laisee : secret is safe with the Troll Box @Tetsuo
[2017-03-21 01:19:12] Rado : ETH mark price back to normal
[2017-03-21 01:19:33] Tetsuo : oh and ofc long LTC/USD
[2017-03-21 01:19:40] Tetsuo : soon....
[2017-03-21 01:19:43] Tetsuo : pump....
[2017-03-21 01:19:45] l3f : BU activated is good for bitcoin
[2017-03-21 01:19:46] Tetsuo : plz god...
[2017-03-21 01:19:51] l3f : increases chain capacity
[2017-03-21 01:19:56] Rado : Tetsuo: is LTC going to adopt Segwit?
[2017-03-21 01:20:00] l3f : Segwit activated is good as well
[2017-03-21 01:20:08] Tetsuo : Rado: i don´t know
[2017-03-21 01:20:10] l3f : Stagation is death
[2017-03-21 01:20:29] DorianWhack-A-Moto : l3f: segwit means less money for miners doesn't it?
[2017-03-21 01:20:33] l3f : Change and rebirth is the antithesis of death
[2017-03-21 01:20:58] Tetsuo : Rado: but i don´t see little downside for the future, i´m hoping for a brutal throat ripping pump
[2017-03-21 01:20:58] l3f : DorianWhack-A-Moto: not neccessarly, but segwit will be very hard to activated with the 95% requirement
[2017-03-21 01:21:05] aethlios : l3f: keep offering your tech knowledge!!!
[2017-03-21 01:21:05] Tetsuo : *do
[2017-03-21 01:21:34] DorianWhack-A-Moto : l3f: with segwit and layer 2 built on top miners miss out on transaction fees, from what i understand
[2017-03-21 01:21:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: sell 2 @ 0.001832
[2017-03-21 01:21:49] l3f : DorianWhack-A-Moto: It is true but there will be more transactions as well
[2017-03-21 01:21:57] l3f : since more can fit in a block
[2017-03-21 01:23:02] l3f : Anyways I think it's a bit like hillary and trump where hillary is core and trump is BU
[2017-03-21 01:23:05] aethlios : l3f: can BU in the future implement SW and LN??
[2017-03-21 01:23:16] Winklevoss : aethlios: lol
[2017-03-21 01:23:20] startChat : aethlios: that would defeat purpose
[2017-03-21 01:23:24] l3f : aethlios: They can add SW
[2017-03-21 01:23:25] startChat : they want onchain fees
[2017-03-21 01:23:40] Winklevoss : that question is philosophical arena
[2017-03-21 01:23:43] l3f : Well segwit is a technical improvement anyway
[2017-03-21 01:23:45] l3f : hard to be against it
[2017-03-21 01:24:05] aethlios : LN offers more options, like exchange wiyj alts in fixed price.
[2017-03-21 01:24:53] l3f : aethlios: true, but I think if BU wins then the devs jump ship as well
[2017-03-21 01:25:12] aethlios : core devs?
[2017-03-21 01:25:27] l3f : they won't work on a dying chain that nobody uses
[2017-03-21 01:26:10] aethlios : will they work with BU team or go elsewhere to implement their SW work??
[2017-03-21 01:26:32] needmoneyquick : dash has 7million coins. 2 million are held by bagholders, 4000 nodes x 1000. Maybe a million on exchanges
[2017-03-21 01:26:34] l3f : aethlios: hard to say
[2017-03-21 01:26:41] l3f : dunno really
[2017-03-21 01:26:44] aethlios : also will btc investors trust BU team?? or will sell btc to 500 because of less trust??
[2017-03-21 01:26:49] needmoneyquick : create any demand that will skyrocket
[2017-03-21 01:26:50] l3f : core and BU devs aren't really friendly together
[2017-03-21 01:27:14] l3f : aethlios: that's a good point as well, BU's code is likely not as stable as core
[2017-03-21 01:27:25] DorianWhack-A-Moto : needmoneyquick: what happened to the 2 million instamined coins?
[2017-03-21 01:27:36] Tetsuo : PUMP THE CHICkUN! DO IT!
[2017-03-21 01:27:36] l3f : But these things can be fixed
[2017-03-21 01:27:45] Winklevoss : If BU wins, espesh @ 80% then devs, investors, merchants and public jump ship
[2017-03-21 01:27:54] needmoneyquick : DorianWhack-A-Moto: still in wallets untouched for years
[2017-03-21 01:27:54] l3f : Say a critical bug happens, price dives for a day, and rebounds when it gets fixed
[2017-03-21 01:28:00] Winklevoss : the world doesn't have time to stop and work out the details.
[2017-03-21 01:28:17] Winklevoss : BU becomes BTC for all intents and purposes
[2017-03-21 01:28:35] DorianWhack-A-Moto : needmoneyquick: so dash allows anyone to view wallet addresses? I thought it was anonymous
[2017-03-21 01:28:59] needmoneyquick : DorianWhack-A-Moto: no you can view. Top 4 wallets only 200,000 +
[2017-03-21 01:29:17] needmoneyquick : 1 or 2 may be an exchange
[2017-03-21 01:29:23] aethlios : l3f: many stupid will be buying btc core (forked) at 200???
[2017-03-21 01:29:35] Tetsuo : needmoneyquick: so little supply is the main reason for you to buy DASH @ 100?
[2017-03-21 01:29:49] Winklevoss : DorianWhack-A-Moto: pseudonymous not anonymous
[2017-03-21 01:29:50] DorianWhack-A-Moto : needmoneyquick: xmr offers real privacy. it should be 100
[2017-03-21 01:29:51] Tetsuo : no one usin it, no one
[2017-03-21 01:29:54] needmoneyquick : Tetsuo: absolutely
[2017-03-21 01:30:05] Tetsuo : needmoneyquick: cool keep buyin@ 100$
[2017-03-21 01:30:25] needmoneyquick : supply and demand man
[2017-03-21 01:30:42] DorianWhack-A-Moto : Winklevoss: yeah thats like bitcoin. i thought dash was marketed as an anonymous coin. looks like xmr still the best in that regard.
[2017-03-21 01:30:43] Tetsuo : i can´t see lots of demand at that price
[2017-03-21 01:30:46] needmoneyquick : blockchain is getting attention and newbie see Digital Cash they buy
[2017-03-21 01:31:06] Winklevoss : needmoneyquick: true
[2017-03-21 01:31:09] Tetsuo : needmoneyquick: with your logic even a price @ 1500$ would make sense, cuz hey, low supply
[2017-03-21 01:31:54] Tetsuo : it´s a shitty anon pump usin MLM schemes to pump it
[2017-03-21 01:32:30] aethlios : usually when they hire a pretty woman (amanda dash) to convince you for something, better don't trust them.