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[2017-03-20 10:33:50] datboiyuan : yeah, just like the protocol
[2017-03-20 10:34:28] arbitrage101 : my english was never good
[2017-03-20 10:34:53] arbitrage101 : can anyone explain https://blog.bitmex.com/on-potential-post-fork-contract-settlement/
[2017-03-20 10:34:59] arbitrage101 : in simple english
[2017-03-20 10:35:21] j8 : basically, it's gonna be chaos
[2017-03-20 10:35:24] rapidtrades : means they wont follow their index and they will bail out the newbs when we crash
[2017-03-20 10:35:41] arbitrage101 : using vocabulary not higher than high shool level
[2017-03-20 10:35:46] rapidtrades : the sum of both coins could be 1200, 600 each
[2017-03-20 10:35:51] rapidtrades : this is major bs
[2017-03-20 10:36:31] arbitrage101 : i am going all cash then
[2017-03-20 10:37:50] j8 : and what happens when the swap switches index
[2017-03-20 10:38:00] arbitrage101 : yes
[2017-03-20 10:38:07] arbitrage101 : what if okc followed btu
[2017-03-20 10:38:16] arbitrage101 : and western exchanges the other one
[2017-03-20 10:38:23] j8 : you can't just switch the index without liquidating / adl'ing everyone
[2017-03-20 10:38:55] DorianWhack-A-Moto : "Perpetual swap contracts will be timed to switch underlying indices in tandem with a futures contract. Ample notice will be given. Like futures, the new index will reference only one chain."
[2017-03-20 10:39:30] DorianWhack-A-Moto : shit show i think
[2017-03-20 10:39:32] arbitrage101 : it is a perfect time to rename bitcoin
[2017-03-20 10:39:43] arbitrage101 : buttcoin and bitcorn?
[2017-03-20 10:39:56] rapidtrades : no wonder prices recovered after this financial engineering
[2017-03-20 10:40:07] DorianWhack-A-Moto : will be a good time to trade but will be confusing as hell
[2017-03-20 10:40:10] rapidtrades : these ppl will do everything to keep bitcoin high
[2017-03-20 10:40:34] rapidtrades : wouldn't be surprised if all exchanges are pumping it behind the scenes
[2017-03-20 10:43:39] arbitrage101 : rapidtrades: world is full of chaos
[2017-03-20 10:43:48] arbitrage101 : no one can plan and predict what happen
[2017-03-20 10:44:24] Tetsuo : this solution feels weird
[2017-03-20 10:44:53] Tetsuo : only real USD will be safe
[2017-03-20 10:45:00] arbitrage101 : Tetsuo: yes
[2017-03-20 10:45:01] j8 : basically any solution is a bit weird. but i agree
[2017-03-20 10:45:03] arbitrage101 : how irony
[2017-03-20 10:45:21] arbitrage101 : bitcoin is suppose to protect us from tyranny
[2017-03-20 10:45:24] DorianWhack-A-Moto : all markets should go down for 24 hours maintenance.
[2017-03-20 10:45:34] rapidtrades : u can't hedge here anymore then
[2017-03-20 10:45:37] aron : rapidtrades isnt this good for you too
[2017-03-20 10:45:47] j8 : Tetsuo: actually this way the futures are valued more like actual coins
[2017-03-20 10:45:56] Tetsuo : i know
[2017-03-20 10:45:58] aron : unless you were shorting it
[2017-03-20 10:46:15] arbitrage101 : he is shorting it since 880
[2017-03-20 10:46:19] aron : lol
[2017-03-20 10:46:54] j8 : so you can arb / hedge against spot more accurately
[2017-03-20 10:48:01] rapidtrades : not if ur long on exchanges
[2017-03-20 10:48:16] rapidtrades : this will wreck arbers
[2017-03-20 10:48:31] j8 : only if the exchange doesn't credit you
[2017-03-20 10:48:35] Tetsuo : any statements from okcoin.com ?
[2017-03-20 10:48:37] arbitrage101 : closing all my contracts as soon as i can
[2017-03-20 10:48:41] rapidtrades : they keep making up shit man
[2017-03-20 10:48:52] Tetsuo : arbitrage101: me too
[2017-03-20 10:49:04] arbitrage101 : not worth sleepless night
[2017-03-20 10:49:08] aron : rapidtrades is this the situation in all sites?
[2017-03-20 10:49:17] Dnavid : Folks been shorting since 1220, adding leverage + a little more funds going down. My liquidation is 1090 i'm at max leverage! Go down now btc!!
[2017-03-20 10:49:17] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 10000 @ 1038.28
[2017-03-20 10:49:17] j8 : if the future only followed one coin, that would wreck arbers. this is just a punch in the face for shorts
[2017-03-20 10:49:38] arbitrage101 : j8: you mean for long
[2017-03-20 10:49:50] DorianWhack-A-Moto : oh shit thought that rekt was me for a second lol
[2017-03-20 10:49:52] j8 : it's good for longs
[2017-03-20 10:49:55] arbitrage101 : whatever side chain it is, it cant possible worth more than btc as a whole
[2017-03-20 10:49:59] Tetsuo : bad for shorts
[2017-03-20 10:50:15] j8 : sorry by "this" i mean what bitmex is doing
[2017-03-20 10:50:32] ThruTheFloor : DorianWhack-A-Moto: What do you make of the current price action? Breakdown failed, looks like we might see 1100 soon.
[2017-03-20 10:50:40] aron : j8 why dont u try other sites then?
[2017-03-20 10:50:41] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 4501 @ 1039.19
[2017-03-20 10:51:09] rapidtrades : ofc its good for longs, they want to protect the majority losers again same with ZEC
[2017-03-20 10:51:15] j8 : aron: i trade lots of places, been here for years and it's not gonna drive me away
[2017-03-20 10:51:20] aron : ok cool
[2017-03-20 10:51:25] aron : /sentiment
[2017-03-20 10:51:28] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 38.07 / 61.93 Daily : 49.48 / 50.52 Weekly : 56.03 / 43.97 Monthly : 52.62 / 47.38```
[2017-03-20 10:51:37] arbitrage101 : dont even know how i find bitmex
[2017-03-20 10:51:41] DorianWhack-A-Moto : ThruTheFloor: i just opened a short so hope not lol. seriously would be surprised if we go over 1060+
[2017-03-20 10:51:44] arbitrage101 : and decided to stick around
[2017-03-20 10:51:57] aron : i think we'll see 1100 by the end of today
[2017-03-20 10:52:14] arbitrage101 : good trader dont make assumption
[2017-03-20 10:52:22] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 20 @ 1039.74
[2017-03-20 10:52:29] aron : you mean good traders dont speculate?
[2017-03-20 10:52:30] stf28 : /wall
[2017-03-20 10:52:39] aron : isnt this all speculation?
[2017-03-20 10:52:42] arbitrage101 : aron: correct in some sense
[2017-03-20 10:53:01] aron : arbitrage how do u trade then
[2017-03-20 10:53:06] arbitrage101 : many here place high probability bet
[2017-03-20 10:53:21] arbitrage101 : spread across different exchanges
[2017-03-20 10:53:33] arbitrage101 : wide spread happen for some high risk reason
[2017-03-20 10:55:15] j8 : quarterly already pricing higher
[2017-03-20 10:55:48] arbitrage101 : dang
[2017-03-20 10:55:52] arbitrage101 : have some short on it
[2017-03-20 10:56:00] j8 : i already closed :)
[2017-03-20 10:56:11] j8 : before i read the whole post
[2017-03-20 10:58:35] Tetsuo : well ETH never got a combined index did it?
[2017-03-20 10:58:49] arbitrage101 : was not a big deal at bitmex
[2017-03-20 10:58:57] arbitrage101 : alt trading here was minimal
[2017-03-20 10:59:23] arbitrage101 : btc on the other hand, is a big deal here
[2017-03-20 10:59:40] arbitrage101 : synthetic usd based on usd
[2017-03-20 10:59:41] j8 : i definitely didn't, i never really heard what happened to margin positions on other exchanges
[2017-03-20 10:59:50] ferpozie : good day,
[2017-03-20 10:59:57] rapidtrades : this is bullshit and they know it
[2017-03-20 11:00:16] arbitrage101 : j8: on finex ,i remember getting etc margin trading
[2017-03-20 11:00:21] arbitrage101 : free etc
[2017-03-20 11:00:27] arbitrage101 : while i shorted here for funding
[2017-03-20 11:00:38] arbitrage101 : have 0 clue what's going on eth
[2017-03-20 11:00:39] j8 : oh yeah from a leveraged position?
[2017-03-20 11:00:44] arbitrage101 : traded solely based on funding
[2017-03-20 11:00:50] arbitrage101 : yes, leveraged position
[2017-03-20 11:01:13] j8 : honestly it makes sense in a lot of ways
[2017-03-20 11:02:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: sell 30 @ 0.042550
[2017-03-20 11:03:12] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 5667 @ 1041.08
[2017-03-20 11:04:01] arbitrage101 : rapidtrades: everything sounds like bs to you
[2017-03-20 11:04:19] arbitrage101 : should adopt and take advantage rather than complain
[2017-03-20 11:05:46] rapidtrades : yeah i'll adapt away from this stupid place
[2017-03-20 11:06:00] rapidtrades : joke gambling exchange with ever changing rules
[2017-03-20 11:06:12] Actualiteit : rapidtrades: chill, just add some more shorts
[2017-03-20 11:06:14] arbitrage101 : fee here is a lot lower than other exchanges
[2017-03-20 11:06:39] arbitrage101 : if you can't survive here, you cant survive elsewhere
[2017-03-20 11:07:45] laisee : this is not a tough place to trade ... plenty of instruments and margin if needed
[2017-03-20 11:09:05] laisee : if u can't make it here, you won;t make it anywhere .... like thsong goes
[2017-03-20 11:24:19] aguia7 : /rekt
[2017-03-20 11:24:19] trollbot : ``` 3 recent REKTs > 100K: ``` ``` 12 hours, 53 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 210000 @ 1034.53 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire: ``` ``` 19 hours, 43 mins ago: Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 100000 @ 1010.42 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished: ``` ``` 34 hours, 33 mins ago: Liquidated short on `XBTM17`: buy 100000 @ 1000.02 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished: ```
[2017-03-20 11:24:28] aguia7 : /sentiment
[2017-03-20 11:24:31] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 31.32 / 68.68 Daily : 49.02 / 50.98 Weekly : 56.01 / 43.99 Monthly : 52.59 / 47.41```
[2017-03-20 11:28:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 600 @ 1043.14
[2017-03-20 11:35:42] Farzad : /fork
[2017-03-20 11:35:43] trollbot : ``` Bitfinex BCC : 786.25 (0.00%) Bitfinex BCU : 263.89 (0.00%) SLQ : < 1 min```
[2017-03-20 11:35:59] Ahhere : Farzad: wow nice feature
[2017-03-20 11:36:07] Farzad : ty :)
[2017-03-20 11:36:58] Farzad : seems BCU gaining ground
[2017-03-20 11:38:41] Tetsuo : so what if polo dosnt use a combined index of BTCc and BTCu, how wil that affect alts in here?
[2017-03-20 11:39:22] Tetsuo : Farzad: nice <3
[2017-03-20 11:53:10] XXXX : Farzad: ratio??
[2017-03-20 11:55:50] cryptoyolo : /sentiment
[2017-03-20 11:55:52] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 43.27 / 56.73 Daily : 48.96 / 51.04 Weekly : 56.17 / 43.83 Monthly : 52.60 / 47.41```
[2017-03-20 11:56:06] arbitrage101 : Tetsuo: think polo is fucked
[2017-03-20 11:56:32] arbitrage101 : polo is f-ucked
[2017-03-20 11:56:43] arbitrage101 : short polo stock !
[2017-03-20 11:57:07] laisee : Farzad: can u add coin.dance data for miner share of core/bu?
[2017-03-20 12:06:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 73 @ 1049.31
[2017-03-20 12:06:52] jayesh : ANY ADMIN HERE? PLS REPLY ?
[2017-03-20 12:07:26] jayesh : BLOCKCHAIN NETWORK IS NOT CONGESTED NOW
[2017-03-20 12:07:38] jayesh : CAN YOU PEOPLE PLEASE LOWER THE WITHDRAWAL FEES
[2017-03-20 12:07:44] jayesh : 0.003 IS VERY VERY HIGH
[2017-03-20 12:08:35] emcor : /rekt
[2017-03-20 12:08:35] trollbot : ``` 3 recent REKTs > 100K: ``` ``` 13 hours, 37 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 210000 @ 1034.53 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire: ``` ``` 20 hours, 28 mins ago: Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 100000 @ 1010.42 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished: ``` ``` 35 hours, 17 mins ago: Liquidated short on `XBTM17`: buy 100000 @ 1000.02 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished: ```
[2017-03-20 12:10:44] cryptoyolo : btc going to 155 again
[2017-03-20 12:10:46] cryptoyolo : 1055
[2017-03-20 12:11:10] cryptoyolo : if it breaks upwards we might expect 1080
[2017-03-20 12:11:36] aethlios : what happened?? what is with polo happening?? any news>>
[2017-03-20 12:12:28] arbitrage101 : jayesh: yeah, my dinner cost less
[2017-03-20 12:15:26] XXXX : Fucking polo
[2017-03-20 12:15:42] Ahhere : XXXX: what is the deal? @aethlios
[2017-03-20 12:16:19] XXXX : Ahhere: dont know. Everyone is saying so i also joined the club
[2017-03-20 12:16:23] jayesh : aethlios: what happened to polo ?
[2017-03-20 12:16:31] Actualiteit : XXXX: fuck polo
[2017-03-20 12:16:37] Ahhere : XXXX: lol yeah fuck those guise
[2017-03-20 12:16:39] DorianWhack-A-Moto : hey guys did you hear about polo?
[2017-03-20 12:16:48] Actualiteit : DorianWhack-A-Moto: yeah, fuck those fuckers
[2017-03-20 12:16:55] Ahhere : all this FUD is making me hungry
[2017-03-20 12:16:57] DorianWhack-A-Moto : yeah fuck polo
[2017-03-20 12:16:58] arbitrage101 : yes
[2017-03-20 12:17:03] arbitrage101 : polo molested my btc
[2017-03-20 12:17:07] aethlios : DorianWhack-A-Moto: no, tell us
[2017-03-20 12:17:07] Actualiteit : same
[2017-03-20 12:17:17] DorianWhack-A-Moto : aethlios: fuck polo
[2017-03-20 12:17:23] DorianWhack-A-Moto : thats the story
[2017-03-20 12:17:28] Ahhere : arbitrage101: bastards did they fondle your satoshis?
[2017-03-20 12:18:39] XXXX : Polo raped my btc and gave me little xmr and zec. And zec died soon after.
[2017-03-20 12:19:21] Ahhere : awful, just awful @XXXX sorry to hear
[2017-03-20 12:19:24] arbitrage101 : Ahhere: absolutely
[2017-03-20 12:19:46] stf28 : XXXX: what happened?
[2017-03-20 12:20:30] reyno : can anyone explain what is going on with BCC and BCU please?
[2017-03-20 12:20:30] XXXX : stf28: you dont know what happened to polo? Where have you been last few hours?
[2017-03-20 12:20:51] stf28 : i just follow price :)
[2017-03-20 12:21:07] Ahhere : I heard they have been fingering peoples Factom and diddling their Digix DAO. sick really
[2017-03-20 12:21:18] XXXX : stf28: long story short polo got fucked.
[2017-03-20 12:21:28] stf28 : ok maybe i can read on reddit?
[2017-03-20 12:22:13] Actualiteit : stf28: fuck reddit exit scam
[2017-03-20 12:23:11] aethlios : one problem with polo is in which currency they will price after fork alts.
[2017-03-20 12:23:47] aethlios : Estimated Hashrate by Bitcoin Client Unlimited: 1,435PH/s (41.27%) Core: 2,030PH/s (58.38%) Other: 12PH/s (0.35%)
[2017-03-20 12:23:57] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 10 @ 1044.59
[2017-03-20 12:24:12] aethlios : BU new high from 40.59% yesterday, now 41.27%
[2017-03-20 12:26:03] longbydefault : /fork
[2017-03-20 12:26:07] trollbot : ``` Bitfinex BCC : 795.98 (1.24%) Bitfinex BCU : 265.00 (0.42%) SLQ : 50 mins```
[2017-03-20 12:27:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: buy 4 @ 0.043530
[2017-03-20 12:28:43] jayesh : Can anybody tell me what happened to Polo? I have money there. Should i withdraw ?
[2017-03-20 12:29:19] Actualiteit : jayesh: fuck polo dude they're such fucking fraudds, diddlying and shit
[2017-03-20 12:29:35] DorianWhack-A-Moto : polo caught diddling
[2017-03-20 12:30:03] DorianWhack-A-Moto : diddle diddle cat 'n the fiddle
[2017-03-20 12:30:11] XXXX : Polo is storing 2FA key of all users used during login.
[2017-03-20 12:30:51] jayesh : XXXX: source ?
[2017-03-20 12:32:21] Ahhere : lol isn't that how 2fa is done?
[2017-03-20 12:32:47] XXXX : Ahhere: source?
[2017-03-20 12:32:53] rapidtrades : whats up with polo? my ZEC is there
[2017-03-20 12:33:05] jayesh : rapidtrades: nothing. Just FUD
[2017-03-20 12:33:29] Ahhere : lol chinese whispers nearly got out of hand there
[2017-03-20 12:33:45] Ahhere : we almost crashed the alt market guise
[2017-03-20 12:33:59] Actualiteit : almost?
[2017-03-20 12:34:00] Actualiteit : not enough
[2017-03-20 12:35:06] Ahhere : "bitmex troll fud crashes all alts!"
[2017-03-20 12:36:37] Actualiteit : it would be glorious
[2017-03-20 12:37:09] Actualiteit : eth movement happenings soon?
[2017-03-20 12:37:16] Actualiteit : kinda wanna get a nice short in again
[2017-03-20 12:37:43] rapidtrades : I don't get how bitmex will implement this crazy plan without ADLing and margin calling everyone
[2017-03-20 12:37:58] Actualiteit : just short eerything and youll be good
[2017-03-20 12:38:08] rapidtrades : they will have to disconnect from the exchanges well before the fork
[2017-03-20 12:38:30] rapidtrades : this is such made up bullshit
[2017-03-20 12:38:35] donsteep : cross margin, 100x short everything there is and see what happens?
[2017-03-20 12:38:44] Actualiteit : donsteep: dont forget to not use stops
[2017-03-20 12:38:53] rapidtrades : now we gotta depend on when these guys will decide to pull the plug on the index
[2017-03-20 12:38:59] donsteep : ofc, why would you ever use stops duh
[2017-03-20 12:40:01] rapidtrades : so fork happens and Core is wroth 800 BU is 250, prices crash to 800....HOW THE F*cK WILL U THEN MOVE THE MARK TO 1250 WITHOUT MARGIN CALLING EVERYONE
[2017-03-20 12:40:16] rapidtrades : this is so retar.ded
[2017-03-20 12:40:29] Actualiteit : is it though?
[2017-03-20 12:41:46] rapidtrades : Smone explain how can they switch without wrekting everyone's trades
[2017-03-20 12:42:33] donsteep : I know nothing of the technicals but I suppose one could simply rescale all prices?
[2017-03-20 12:42:44] laisee : rapidtrades: Y do you think bitmex would commit commercial suicide
[2017-03-20 12:43:15] rapidtrades : laisee: don't try to act smart, answer my Q
[2017-03-20 12:43:40] Actualiteit : rapidtrades: why would you think everyone gets rekt?
[2017-03-20 12:43:49] XXXX : rapidtrades: READ RESEARCH LEARN you noob
[2017-03-20 12:43:53] laisee : not acting. Can you point to any evidence they will attempt what you describe?
[2017-03-20 12:43:56] rapidtrades : do u ppl even read
[2017-03-20 12:44:06] Actualiteit : rapidtrades: meybe you should read.
[2017-03-20 12:44:12] rapidtrades : i'll just wait for the adults to get in chat
[2017-03-20 12:44:15] Actualiteit : maybe*
[2017-03-20 12:44:32] laisee : RTFM?
[2017-03-20 12:48:21] rapidtrades : https://www.bitmex.com/app/fairPriceMarking#Last-Price-Protected-Marking
[2017-03-20 12:48:50] Actualiteit : rapidtrades: that is the message where they explain things yes
[2017-03-20 12:49:11] Tetsuo : there is no safe haven in here, when thi shtf
[2017-03-20 12:50:00] laisee : rapidtrades: no mention of forks
[2017-03-20 12:50:22] rapidtrades : It may not be possible to predict or plan to get reliable pricing data from our current Index exchanges, or they may not list the minor coin at all. In the event of a Contentious Fork BitMEX reserves the right to move all Bitcoin derivatives to Last Price Protected Marking, until a stable index can be composed.
[2017-03-20 12:50:43] j8 : it's a valid question, how they'll transition the swap
[2017-03-20 12:51:06] rapidtrades : they will MC all shorts to bailout longs
[2017-03-20 12:51:36] laisee : so they will fudge it until things get more clear on exchanges, more likley
[2017-03-20 12:51:41] rapidtrades : so how does last price protected work? basically prices will be frozen when they decide?
[2017-03-20 12:51:43] j8 : i think they should settle it
[2017-03-20 12:51:59] Tetsuo : ^+1
[2017-03-20 12:52:07] j8 : no it's mostly like marking to last traded price
[2017-03-20 12:52:07] laisee : emergency closing?
[2017-03-20 12:52:19] rapidtrades : dude they have to follow the price on the exchanges
[2017-03-20 12:52:28] laisee : Y?
[2017-03-20 12:52:47] rapidtrades : cos they did before and will do so after
[2017-03-20 12:53:03] rapidtrades : why change it for the fork only? to bail out some dumb longs?
[2017-03-20 12:53:11] laisee : they have listed few coins with no external price, its not impossible to trade on last price for a while
[2017-03-20 12:53:34] rapidtrades : so they will freeze prices and settle contracts on some imaginary price just so longs survive?
[2017-03-20 12:53:47] laisee : last price != frozen price
[2017-03-20 12:54:07] rapidtrades : last price protected, says its only allowed to move within a band
[2017-03-20 12:54:11] laisee : read the page linked above
[2017-03-20 12:54:23] rapidtrades : i f*cking linked it
[2017-03-20 12:54:34] j8 : last pricthat's the protected part, some protection against wicks
[2017-03-20 12:54:39] j8 : whoops
[2017-03-20 12:54:41] laisee : yeah, funny I assumed you had read it
[2017-03-20 12:55:25] rapidtrades : this is such bullshit, they make up all these rules to justify another bailout
[2017-03-20 12:55:28] j8 : it can move within a band but the band follows the price
[2017-03-20 12:55:50] j8 : dude there's no easy way to handle this
[2017-03-20 12:55:50] rapidtrades : we traded based on those exchanges in the index and those exchanges will remain in the index after the fork
[2017-03-20 12:56:03] rapidtrades : so why make a special rules during the fork
[2017-03-20 12:56:12] laisee : why don't you trade on this weakness instead of raging about it ...
[2017-03-20 12:58:03] j8 : the last price protected part is just saying: this is what we'll have to do if we can't obtain an index for a short period
[2017-03-20 12:58:15] j8 : they've done it before, i.e. on XBJ series
[2017-03-20 12:58:40] j8 : when quoine was whacking out
[2017-03-20 12:58:40] laisee : yup, and world didnt end
[2017-03-20 12:59:00] aethlios : Users will be able to withdraw the minor currency, but not deposit it. We have no plans to support multiple margin currencies. Balances of the minor currency will be calculated via a snapshot at the time of the fork and maintained separately to major currency’s margin balance, as further mixing of the currencies thereafter could lead to improper attribution.
[2017-03-20 12:59:05] rapidtrades : right it will just decouple the mark from the exchanges
[2017-03-20 12:59:11] aethlios : this means we receive BTU???
[2017-03-20 12:59:17] rapidtrades : so trading hot air basically
[2017-03-20 12:59:33] rapidtrades : and march will settle on some made up double coin
[2017-03-20 13:00:21] laisee : fork won't happen in mar '17, dude
[2017-03-20 13:00:37] rapidtrades : fork could happened tomorrow DUDE
[2017-03-20 13:00:41] rapidtrades : ur clueless
[2017-03-20 13:00:50] Apocalyptic : rapidtrades: "double coin" ?
[2017-03-20 13:00:51] j8 : ok say you short march 1x. you hold a coin and it's hedged. a fork happens, now you have two coins and they're both hedged
[2017-03-20 13:01:01] j8 : what's the problem
[2017-03-20 13:01:10] rapidtrades : the problem is f*cking shorts!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
[2017-03-20 13:01:27] j8 : you think shorts should get a free profit there?
[2017-03-20 13:01:34] rapidtrades : i f*Cking hate this place and almost everyone here
[2017-03-20 13:01:40] Actualiteit : now that was a dumb question to ask rapidshorts
[2017-03-20 13:01:43] rapidtrades : enojoy donating ur cash to bitmex
[2017-03-20 13:01:44] laisee : err, fork doesn't mean doubling money supply ... ;-)
[2017-03-20 13:01:46] rapidtrades : later losers
[2017-03-20 13:02:01] Actualiteit : didnt you want to wait until the adults arrive?
[2017-03-20 13:02:26] zylaale9205 : what is the meaning of Cost @ 100x
[2017-03-20 13:02:27] jayesh : i love this place. i made so much money
[2017-03-20 13:03:10] zylaale9205 : jayesh give me few tips
[2017-03-20 13:03:38] Rado : zylaale9205: he tripled his 0.01 BTC
[2017-03-20 13:03:48] Actualiteit : buy high sell low!
[2017-03-20 13:03:49] laisee : later @rapido
[2017-03-20 13:04:19] laisee : never tsake tips from strangers
[2017-03-20 13:04:20] jayesh : Rado: lol
[2017-03-20 13:04:25] jayesh : laisee: +1
[2017-03-20 13:04:30] Ahhere : Rado: you expect us to believe there are 0.1btc whales trading here? come on don't be ridiculous.
[2017-03-20 13:04:45] Rado : Ahhere: many
[2017-03-20 13:04:59] Rado : more than half of the users
[2017-03-20 13:04:59] laisee : thats 0.1BTU, not real Bitcoin
[2017-03-20 13:05:06] Ahhere : omg I thought I was balling with my 0.01btc
[2017-03-20 13:05:24] zylaale9205 : what is the meaning of Cost @ 100x
[2017-03-20 13:05:35] XXXX : I wish I had 0.05 BTC let one 0.1
[2017-03-20 13:07:40] Ahhere : XXXX: lol not sure if still joking...
[2017-03-20 13:08:03] Actualiteit : XXXX: I wish I had 0.005btc
[2017-03-20 13:09:09] stf28 : it's hard no not do all-in trading style with <0,01
[2017-03-20 13:09:32] Ahhere : Actualiteit: withdrawal fees of 0.003 must really kill your profits
[2017-03-20 13:09:43] Actualiteit : Ahhere: it was a jok m8
[2017-03-20 13:09:45] XXXX : ETH is ballsy. Already near ATH and still rising in the face of rising btc
[2017-03-20 13:09:56] Ahhere : Actualiteit: i kno lol
[2017-03-20 13:10:05] Actualiteit : Ahhere: oh shi-
[2017-03-20 13:10:41] Actualiteit : XXXX: im waiting for a breakout, need dem sweet quick profits
[2017-03-20 13:11:16] zylaale9205 : Ahhere: what is the meaning of Cost @ 100x
[2017-03-20 13:11:17] zylaale9205 : what is the meaning of Cost @ 100x
[2017-03-20 13:11:19] zylaale9205 : what is the meaning of Cost @ 100x
[2017-03-20 13:11:20] zylaale9205 : what is the meaning of Cost @ 100x
[2017-03-20 13:11:21] zylaale9205 : what is the meaning of Cost @ 100x
[2017-03-20 13:11:23] zylaale9205 : what is the meaning of Cost @ 100x
[2017-03-20 13:11:23] Actualiteit : yes
[2017-03-20 13:11:24] zylaale9205 : what is the meaning of Cost @ 100x
[2017-03-20 13:11:26] zylaale9205 : what is the meaning of Cost @ 100x
[2017-03-20 13:11:33] Actualiteit : could you repeat the question?
[2017-03-20 13:11:37] zy : mod? ban this guy please
[2017-03-20 13:11:46] XXXX : what is the meaning of Cost @ 100x
[2017-03-20 13:11:53] zylaale9205 : yes
[2017-03-20 13:12:00] donsteep : I think he was asking about the meaning of Cost @ 100x
[2017-03-20 13:12:11] Ahhere : donsteep: yes specifically what is it
[2017-03-20 13:12:13] Actualiteit : Cost x100 what the meaning of @ is
[2017-03-20 13:12:20] zylaale9205 : yes
[2017-03-20 13:12:34] XXXX : Oh i thought he wanted to know the meaning of Cost @ 100x
[2017-03-20 13:12:44] Actualiteit : didnt he?
[2017-03-20 13:12:45] stf28 : /price
[2017-03-20 13:12:49] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1050.66 (0.00%) Bitfinex : 1047.90 (0.00%) The Woodchipper : 1051.83 (0.00%) itBit : 1049.52 (0.00%) Kraken : 1030.10 (0.00%) GDAX : 1046.59 (0.00%) SLQ : < 1 min```
[2017-03-20 13:12:55] donsteep : Ahhere: yes, you have good eye for minor but important details
[2017-03-20 13:13:12] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 8435 @ 1050.95
[2017-03-20 13:13:19] Ahhere : XXXX: @Actualiteit no no he clearly asked what is the meaning of Cost @ 100x
[2017-03-20 13:13:39] laisee : Ask SIRI
[2017-03-20 13:13:48] Actualiteit : Ahhere: oh I see. Man, thank god we have you here
[2017-03-20 13:13:59] Ahhere : np ;)
[2017-03-20 13:14:24] donsteep : I wonder if the question was rhetorical and something we should all ponder about for a while
[2017-03-20 13:14:46] Actualiteit : I will write a thesis on this subject.
[2017-03-20 13:15:03] donsteep : what is the meaning of cost to each of us
[2017-03-20 13:15:10] Actualiteit : so deep
[2017-03-20 13:15:30] XXXX : I had a dream t night and satoshi was asking the same question
[2017-03-20 13:15:47] donsteep : and how do you multiply something intangible by 100
[2017-03-20 13:16:01] Ahhere : donsteep: there are no easy answers to such a conundrum. beautifully put.
[2017-03-20 13:16:17] donsteep : I think I'm done trading for today. I need to meditate on this.
[2017-03-20 13:16:51] donsteep : someone please tip the guy a few btc for his wisdom
[2017-03-20 13:16:55] Actualiteit : good luck. Report back to us when you see the light.
[2017-03-20 13:17:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 10000 @ 1052.49
[2017-03-20 13:20:12] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 3000 @ 1052.79
[2017-03-20 13:20:30] Actualiteit : i have this feeling I shouldnt have waited for 1010 to go long.
[2017-03-20 13:20:34] Actualiteit : oh well
[2017-03-20 13:20:43] dodic : what is the meaning of cost at all?
[2017-03-20 13:21:42] aethlios : this is a dead cat bounch, 825 will be next, try to find a short entry.
[2017-03-20 13:22:22] dodic : do dead cats actually bounce?
[2017-03-20 13:22:30] Actualiteit : aethlios: Yeah I think youre looking at a longer timeframe than I do, was looking for a bounce @ 10 and close @ 50
[2017-03-20 13:22:43] Ahhere : dodic: for legal reasons I can't answer that
[2017-03-20 13:22:52] Actualiteit : dodic: you're hitting all kinds of new levels of deepness
[2017-03-20 13:23:02] dodic : :)
[2017-03-20 13:23:09] Ahhere : but I 'believe' so ;)
[2017-03-20 13:24:41] aethlios : panic with start when BU hash rate above 50%
[2017-03-20 13:25:29] Actualiteit : do we really want BU? Read some negative stuffs about it
[2017-03-20 13:26:21] aethlios : it is like miners take over on users.
[2017-03-20 13:26:36] cryptoyolo : Morning guys,
[2017-03-20 13:26:50] Actualiteit : I should really read some more into it lol
[2017-03-20 13:27:23] cryptoyolo : are you longing this crazy ass btc?
[2017-03-20 13:28:07] Actualiteit : I am not
[2017-03-20 13:28:34] Apocalyptic : "i have this feeling I shouldnt have waited for 1010 to go long. oh well"
[2017-03-20 13:28:42] Apocalyptic : you're sure you're not ?
[2017-03-20 13:28:44] Actualiteit : Apocalyptic: exactly
[2017-03-20 13:28:50] Actualiteit : i waited for 10
[2017-03-20 13:28:51] Actualiteit : didnt hit 10
[2017-03-20 13:28:54] Actualiteit : so no, not long
[2017-03-20 13:29:06] Apocalyptic : nvm, misread as "should have"
[2017-03-20 13:29:12] Actualiteit : ah oki
[2017-03-20 13:29:52] Apocalyptic : so did bitmex clarify if we're gettings our BCUs ?
[2017-03-20 13:31:41] aethlios : Apocalyptic: yes we get BTU.
[2017-03-20 13:31:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 5000 @ 1042.79
[2017-03-20 13:31:53] Apocalyptic : aethlios: thanks
[2017-03-20 13:32:31] cryptoyolo : wtf.... 100x rekt
[2017-03-20 13:32:46] cryptoyolo : i will never get all these yolo 100x positions
[2017-03-20 13:32:55] cryptoyolo : and i'm a yoloer
[2017-03-20 13:33:27] aethlios : okcoin hasn't announced yet what their index will be after the fork, so if they don't include both coins, then a short there can be more valuable. I asked them and said wait for announcement.
[2017-03-20 13:33:36] Dynamix : cryptoyolo: well, youll get yolorekt
[2017-03-20 13:33:47] dodic : cryptoyolo: gamblers gotta gamble
[2017-03-20 13:34:58] cryptoyolo : 5min stochrsi bottom... let the scalping begin
[2017-03-20 13:51:22] cryptoyolo : Arbitrage incoming, btc is 12% more expensive in my country LOL
[2017-03-20 13:52:10] cryptoyolo : i wish i could leverage this damn
[2017-03-20 13:54:05] Actualiteit : leverage everything
[2017-03-20 13:59:49] aron : xbt going back to 1100
[2017-03-20 13:59:52] aron : all aboard?
[2017-03-20 14:00:58] Actualiteit : meh, not seeing it hitting 11xx with confidence anytime soon tbh
[2017-03-20 14:01:41] Actualiteit : w/e happens today ill be watching from the sidelines
[2017-03-20 14:04:30] cryptoyolo : there is also another round of PBoC meetings this week, which could cause some more uncertainty
[2017-03-20 14:08:21] cmwprice : /sentiment
[2017-03-20 14:08:24] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 37.01 / 62.99 Daily : 47.89 / 52.11 Weekly : 55.99 / 44.01 Monthly : 52.55 / 47.45```
[2017-03-20 14:16:56] cmwprice : Back to 1000?
[2017-03-20 14:19:23] Ahhere : cmwprice: I could close now at breakeven but I'm hanging on for 1k with my short
[2017-03-20 14:20:03] cmwprice : Ahhere: I just opened a short. Really looks like we'll see 1000 again not too soon
[2017-03-20 14:24:42] zy : keep shorting on the way up
[2017-03-20 14:25:14] zy : they are too optimistic about the fork
[2017-03-20 14:33:01] cmwprice : zy: Yeah, I'll only buy after the fork now I think
[2017-03-20 14:33:57] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 17 @ 1043.82
[2017-03-20 14:34:29] zy : there is 0 possibility PBoC will allow free trading of btc again
[2017-03-20 14:36:56] laisee : wake btc/cny up when september ends
[2017-03-20 14:37:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 190 @ 1043.67
[2017-03-20 14:37:35] REKT : Have a bowl of chop-chop suey!
[2017-03-20 14:40:12] cmwprice : /sentiment
[2017-03-20 14:40:13] sergiocal : Hi
[2017-03-20 14:40:14] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 51.12 / 48.89 Daily : 47.90 / 52.10 Weekly : 55.98 / 44.02 Monthly : 52.55 / 47.45```
[2017-03-20 14:41:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 1000 @ 1042.09
[2017-03-20 14:41:31] laisee : /fork
[2017-03-20 14:41:32] trollbot : ``` Bitfinex BCC : 795.98 (0.00%) Bitfinex BCU : 260.00 (-1.89%) SLQ : 2 hours, 15 mins```
[2017-03-20 14:54:04] MikeHunt : china still trades relatively freely via localbtc.cn
[2017-03-20 14:54:10] MikeHunt : wait until PBoC crushes that
[2017-03-20 14:55:10] donsteep : Ahhere: I've come to a conclusion about the great question earlier. The answer must be 42.
[2017-03-20 14:57:14] donsteep : coincidentally that's also the price target for the next 2 hours
[2017-03-20 15:03:13] zy : MikeHunt: localbitcoin is already banned by the gfw, people can't access it without proxies
[2017-03-20 15:03:32] zy : otc market will always be there
[2017-03-20 15:04:09] zy : it's just most people will dump once they realise they won't be allowed to withdraw freely anymore
[2017-03-20 15:18:32] Zen Trader : Omg you guys
[2017-03-20 15:18:43] Zen Trader : I just found my ether presale wallet im not joking
[2017-03-20 15:20:36] ross : How many coins @Zen Trader
[2017-03-20 15:20:41] sleger : you just made everyone elses ether less valuable
[2017-03-20 15:20:52] Zen Trader : 5000
[2017-03-20 15:21:09] ross : Zen Trader: want to give it to me?
[2017-03-20 15:21:23] stf28 : you just found 200 000$ ?
[2017-03-20 15:21:43] Zen Trader : Well how bout this ill dump the newfound coins on polionex and give bitmex the inside scoop
[2017-03-20 15:22:01] Zen Trader : when I do it
[2017-03-20 15:22:07] Zen Trader : yes I found about 200 000
[2017-03-20 15:22:14] Zen Trader : good day
[2017-03-20 15:22:26] ross : Zen Trader: nice ima short
[2017-03-20 15:22:28] stf28 : congrats !
[2017-03-20 15:22:37] Zen Trader : My mom was always telling me to clean my sock drawer I never thought this was why
[2017-03-20 15:22:58] ross : How long ago was that?
[2017-03-20 15:23:23] Zen Trader : during the intial presale like before they raised the price the first or second time
[2017-03-20 15:23:38] ross : Zen Trader: dump it after 5 pls
[2017-03-20 15:23:48] Zen Trader : give me time guys getting a wallet to sync and got to load them onto poloniex
[2017-03-20 15:24:03] Zen Trader : ross: After 5 in what time zone
[2017-03-20 15:24:19] Zen Trader : I mean im in no rush
[2017-03-20 15:25:01] DoubleU : 5000 ETH wont move price much
[2017-03-20 15:25:06] ross : In 90mins
[2017-03-20 15:25:10] DoubleU : now if you got 50,000 or 500,000
[2017-03-20 15:25:46] Zen Trader : DoubleU: way I see it is its 5000 eth sure but its also 5000 new eth not recycled eth it should have more of an effect than if I bought eth and resold them
[2017-03-20 15:25:53] ross : DoubleU: yes but a giant sell wall and few market sells will scare the hell out of people
[2017-03-20 15:26:20] Zen Trader : ross: Agreed and I hate eth I cant be holding it
[2017-03-20 15:26:38] Zen Trader : whats fun is now I get some eth classic too
[2017-03-20 15:26:38] ross : If we're me I'd sell off half
[2017-03-20 15:26:54] ross : eth has value and always will
[2017-03-20 15:27:05] Zen Trader : I just dont like vitalik know him personally and dont like him
[2017-03-20 15:27:26] Zen Trader : seems to be a sellout
[2017-03-20 15:27:57] Zen Trader : Eth might have value one day if itsused properly but its not my thing at all
[2017-03-20 15:28:29] ross : Fair point
[2017-03-20 15:29:02] ronensinger : /fork
[2017-03-20 15:29:04] trollbot : ``` Bitfinex BCC : 799.98 (0.50%) Bitfinex BCU : 250.00 (-3.85%) SLQ : 47 mins```
[2017-03-20 15:29:59] Dynamix : /price
[2017-03-20 15:30:02] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1046.62 (-0.38%) Bitfinex : 1045.60 (-0.22%) The Woodchipper : 1050.56 (-0.12%) itBit : 1046.00 (-0.34%) Kraken : 1018.58 (-1.12%) GDAX : 1042.37 (-0.40%) SLQ : 2 hours, 17 mins```
[2017-03-20 15:34:23] ross : Dash pumping
[2017-03-20 15:34:40] ross : When I say pumping.. I mean going up sort of fast
[2017-03-20 15:36:40] cryptoyolo : btc doesnt seem to break above 1050
[2017-03-20 15:37:17] cryptoyolo : might start another little run down to 1010-1015
[2017-03-20 15:48:18] ross : Dash could moon if it breaks this 1k wall
[2017-03-20 16:06:05] ross : Now we can climb
[2017-03-20 16:11:23] Dnavid : cryptoyolo: yes please make it happen
[2017-03-20 16:12:17] Dnavid : Dash increase mut be due to traders getting out of btc before it goes down
[2017-03-20 16:15:42] Dnavid : ross: how high is your target?
[2017-03-20 16:15:56] stf28 : Dnavid: thanks for contributing to fund the run to 1100
[2017-03-20 16:16:07] Dnavid : stf28: lol
[2017-03-20 16:16:31] stf28 : but i feel you bro
[2017-03-20 16:17:36] Dnavid : 30% chance if hitting 1,100
[2017-03-20 16:18:14] Dnavid : stf28: how long before 1100 according to you?
[2017-03-20 16:18:34] ross : Dnavid: 0.12 is target
[2017-03-20 16:19:08] stf28 : imho if we follow the same pattern as what happened 10 march it shouldn't take more than 2 days
[2017-03-20 16:19:29] stf28 : but are you considering adding to it?
[2017-03-20 16:19:57] stf28 : if this shit breaks 1100 the crash would be denied and bull market should follow
[2017-03-20 16:22:47] ross : And rapidtrades will be wrecked
[2017-03-20 16:23:58] Dnavid : ross: ok
[2017-03-20 16:24:19] Dnavid : ross: will short at 0.12
[2017-03-20 16:32:32] Dnavid : Down to $730
[2017-03-20 16:32:36] Dnavid : btc
[2017-03-20 16:32:44] Dnavid : in next 3 weeks
[2017-03-20 16:33:17] Dnavid : I said the "I hear some violins" at $1230
[2017-03-20 16:33:27] Dnavid : I say this again now!
[2017-03-20 16:33:57] Dnavid : Maybe $500 if bcc and btu selarate
[2017-03-20 16:34:01] Dnavid : separate
[2017-03-20 16:34:25] Farzad : /wall
[2017-03-20 16:34:38] Farzad : /price
[2017-03-20 16:34:43] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1042.92 (0.00%) Bitfinex : 1043.80 (0.00%) The Woodchipper : 1050.06 (0.00%) itBit : 1045.10 (0.00%) Kraken : 1022.00 (0.00%) GDAX : 1042.98 (0.00%) SLQ : < 1 min```
[2017-03-20 16:35:09] Farzad : /wall
[2017-03-20 16:35:11] Dnavid : Because they're pricing them at $700 and $300 respectively: the average is $500
[2017-03-20 16:35:25] Farzad : hmmmm
[2017-03-20 16:37:12] KyllingLolsson : /sentiment
[2017-03-20 16:37:15] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 32.16 / 67.85 Daily : 50.14 / 49.86 Weekly : 55.77 / 44.24 Monthly : 52.55 / 47.45```
[2017-03-20 16:37:23] Zen Trader : /btce
[2017-03-20 16:38:04] Zen Trader : BTCE is way up at 1065
[2017-03-20 16:46:12] Roston : Yeah weird for BTCe to ever be a top price, for any reason lol
[2017-03-20 16:48:40] zy : /fork
[2017-03-20 16:48:43] trollbot : ``` Bitfinex BCC : 799.98 (0.00%) Bitfinex BCU : 240.02 (0.00%) SLQ : < 1 min```
[2017-03-20 16:59:38] aguia7 : /sentiment
[2017-03-20 16:59:41] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 32.59 / 67.41 Daily : 50.39 / 49.61 Weekly : 55.76 / 44.24 Monthly : 52.55 / 47.45```
[2017-03-20 16:59:48] aguia7 : /rekt
[2017-03-20 16:59:48] trollbot : ``` 3 recent REKTs > 100K: ``` ``` 18 hours, 29 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 210000 @ 1034.53 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire: ``` ``` 25 hours, 19 mins ago: Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 100000 @ 1010.42 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished: ``` ``` 40 hours, 8 mins ago: Liquidated short on `XBTM17`: buy 100000 @ 1000.02 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished: ```
[2017-03-20 17:09:49] emcor : guys
[2017-03-20 17:10:01] emcor : does anyone know a timeframe about when the hard fork will be implemented?
[2017-03-20 17:14:08] zy : BU can trigger hard fork at anytime
[2017-03-20 17:15:21] stf28 : it's happening now, everybody is beginning to sell
[2017-03-20 17:15:45] stf28 : NOW
[2017-03-20 17:16:11] aethlios : they need to have above 50% of network to try, so they are still 41.5%
[2017-03-20 17:17:48] zy : aethlios: theoretically yes if they want to become the longer chain, but technically they can start doing it at anytime
[2017-03-20 17:19:23] CaptainDean : fuck this fork
[2017-03-20 17:19:40] CaptainDean : another failed one just to fuck top everything
[2017-03-20 17:20:43] cmwprice : /sentiment