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<< >> English 中文 Русский 한국어 日本語 Español Français [2017-03-17 18:40:16] GTmann : BitMEX_Sam: if BTU is the domiant one $ wise, like how ETH is now, will bitmex just setlle in BTU then? [2017-03-17 18:40:31] hmmmYea : sleger: thats how i read the bitmex statement [2017-03-17 18:40:43] sleger : hmmmYea: I read it like that too at 75% [2017-03-17 18:40:50] sleger : it is not clear enough [2017-03-17 18:41:12] herpinator : I hate this debate I might liquidate and go back to forex [2017-03-17 18:41:40] aethlios : a solution for open contracts the time of fork could be to settle at the cummulative price of both (BTC+BTU) and deposit to client accounts their BTU [2017-03-17 18:41:51] hmmmYea : sleger: upon rereading i agree with you. i think i just assumed that they could only pick BTcore or a sum of both.. that anything else would be a complete disaster [2017-03-17 18:42:15] sleger : Sam didnt answer so my guess is they're still discussing it [2017-03-17 18:42:32] hmmmYea : sleger: just switching to a completely different coin at an arbitrary time would absolutely bonkers [2017-03-17 18:42:49] sleger : its just a price for a settlement, it could be anything [2017-03-17 18:42:52] sleger : but i want to know [2017-03-17 18:42:53] hmmmYea : sleger: yea.. muddy those waters so you can get more of the basis on [2017-03-17 18:43:06] hmmmYea : ;) [2017-03-17 18:43:32] GTmann : i would like a simple explanation using ETH and ETC, right now BTC is ETC (which was at the time known as eth)BTU will be like ETH (most hashrate) [2017-03-17 18:44:10] etoque : something like [2017-03-17 18:45:15] GTmann : at fork time, appears wed be holding the equivalnt of ETC here only, until they have sufficeint replay protection [2017-03-17 18:46:15] GTmann : im sure BitMex will want to take deposits in the ETH-like bitcion fork, not the ETC-like btc fork, meh no need to panic, just curious, the statement was rushed [2017-03-17 18:47:16] hmmmYea : GTmann: he said you would get your "ETH" after they had replay protection [2017-03-17 18:47:24] cmwprice : /sentiment [2017-03-17 18:47:27] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 72.36 / 27.64 Daily : 60.58 / 39.42 Weekly : 53.08 / 46.92 Monthly : 51.39 / 48.61``` [2017-03-17 18:47:27] Yuppie : /price [2017-03-17 18:47:30] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1124.99 (0.45%) Bitfinex : 1121.00 (-0.02%) The Woodchipper : 1127.98 (-0.08%) itBit : 1120.28 (-0.09%) Kraken : 1092.00 (0.60%) GDAX : 1123.00 (0.02%) SLQ : 11 mins``` [2017-03-17 18:47:37] GTmann : hmmmYea: right and will they then use "ETH" as the setllement asset? [2017-03-17 18:48:32] hmmmYea : GTmann: my reading of the statement is that they will use "ETC".. but i agree w/ sleger that it is a little vague [2017-03-17 18:48:42] GTmann : hmmmYea: wouldnt make alot of sense for EthMeX to use ETC lol [2017-03-17 18:49:00] GTmann : ok nuff on this thanks [2017-03-17 18:49:12] hmmmYea : GTmann: i think their options are "ETC" or "ETH + ETC"... "ETH" only would be very disruptive, bc the decision would be arbitrary [2017-03-17 18:49:33] sleger : thats why it needs to be announced asap [2017-03-17 18:49:39] hmmmYea : agree [2017-03-17 18:49:56] sleger : i'm almost certain it wont be the sum, but the majority branch [2017-03-17 18:50:01] hmmmYea : also if they announce "ETH" and both coins do well, then its going to be nuts [2017-03-17 18:50:27] GTmann : sleger: yes agreed, so well be trading fuking bitcoin classic till then lol [2017-03-17 18:50:43] sleger : there will only be altcoins left ! [2017-03-17 18:50:55] Tetsuo : DOGE & ETH FTW [2017-03-17 18:50:58] GTmann : whatever china mines will be btc the end [2017-03-17 18:51:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 4000 @ 1115.16 [2017-03-17 18:51:29] GTmann : boy the ponzi scheme fanboys will be out in force! [2017-03-17 18:51:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 10000 @ 1113.83 [2017-03-17 18:52:25] ThruTheFloor : So if futures are more volatile, if we're going to 900 or so, shorting June would be even better since it can go lower, right? [2017-03-17 18:53:27] Tetsuo : only USD & LTC are stable safe! [2017-03-17 18:53:44] etoque : nah [2017-03-17 18:53:49] etoque : well depend if you btc trader [2017-03-17 18:54:12] etoque : as I never use usd ltc is not good for me when btc going down,but its not same for everyone [2017-03-17 18:54:21] etoque : uhm going up sry [2017-03-17 18:54:49] hmmmYea : ThruTheFloor: i am positioning myself as if jun is worth $150 less than the perp swap [2017-03-17 18:54:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 500 @ 1118.42 [2017-03-17 18:55:13] sleger : hmmmYea: why ? perp swap is on the same index, thats dumb [2017-03-17 18:56:11] cmwprice : /sentiment [2017-03-17 18:56:13] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 72.96 / 27.05 Daily : 60.64 / 39.36 Weekly : 53.16 / 46.84 Monthly : 51.40 / 48.60``` [2017-03-17 18:56:18] hmmmYea : sleger: go thru the math again... i can explain it in the trollbox if you want.. but im guessing you dont [2017-03-17 18:56:41] hmmmYea : sleger: assume they accelerate the funding if 2hrs if it diverges [2017-03-17 18:56:41] sleger : on jun30, perp swap = june future [2017-03-17 18:56:43] BTCDJS : Tetsuo: Ha! I'm mostly in LTC now ;) [2017-03-17 18:56:58] hmmmYea : sleger: agree. [2017-03-17 18:57:00] sleger : hmmmYea: ah you are making assumptions on funding [2017-03-17 18:57:14] sleger : hard to predict that thing, short term it will be <0, but until june.... [2017-03-17 18:58:12] hmmmYea : sleger: im not making assumptions.. im solving for the fair value of the swap conditional upon different dates of the hard fork [2017-03-17 18:58:17] cmwprice : Buy the dip? [2017-03-17 18:58:24] etoque : hmm fork coming [2017-03-17 18:58:30] etoque : run into altcoin I'll recommand [2017-03-17 18:58:53] sleger : surprised eth is not up in $ [2017-03-17 18:58:57] hmmmYea : sleger: assume hard fork is a may 15th.. and everyone estimates BTC worth $550 and BTU worth $550.. then whats that work out to [2017-03-17 18:59:48] hmmmYea : sleger: perp should trade way under spot... how much under the spot determined by how much funding a short will have to pay before you get to $550 [2017-03-17 18:59:53] hmmmYea : on may 16 [2017-03-17 19:00:08] hmmmYea : jun fute should be worth exactly 550 [2017-03-17 19:00:11] aethlios : if fork happens many investors won't want to invest in BU software and team, is a different coin. [2017-03-17 19:00:13] hmmmYea : the whle time [2017-03-17 19:00:40] etoque : uncertainty time bring lower price,this is pretty known [2017-03-17 19:00:54] etoque : sooo altcoin is safe heaven for 2 next month [2017-03-17 19:01:08] aethlios : usd the safest. [2017-03-17 19:01:10] cmwprice : /sentiment [2017-03-17 19:01:13] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 66.21 / 33.79 Daily : 60.56 / 39.44 Weekly : 53.16 / 46.84 Monthly : 51.40 / 48.60``` [2017-03-17 19:01:19] etoque : aethlios: yes sure ahah [2017-03-17 19:01:31] Tetsuo : etoque: ur a fool [2017-03-17 19:01:31] etoque : aethlios: but profit are not same on usd and on alt ;) [2017-03-17 19:01:38] aethlios : or old shinny gold. [2017-03-17 19:01:39] sleger : hmmmYea: you need to take into account % of chance this happens, and also respective value of major coin to the sum [2017-03-17 19:01:41] etoque : Tetsuo: no no,just logic [2017-03-17 19:01:51] sleger : but yes I agree with the logic, i doubt funding is that well arb'ed though [2017-03-17 19:01:59] Tetsuo : etoque: alts/usd won´t go up as much 4wise as BTC/USD might lose [2017-03-17 19:02:04] Tetsuo : *% [2017-03-17 19:02:08] etoque : will see [2017-03-17 19:02:12] Tetsuo : ok [2017-03-17 19:02:17] etoque : for sure,btc won't rise anymore 2 next month [2017-03-17 19:02:28] hmmmYea : sleger: for sure. but under any assumption futures trading $15 above the swap is ludicrous.. unless you think hard fork is very unlikely [2017-03-17 19:02:28] etoque : circle jerk or get down [2017-03-17 19:03:08] Tetsuo : can´t wait till Roger Ver market sells his 300k coins on Stamp and Finex :-) [2017-03-17 19:03:15] sleger : hmmmYea: bitmex futures have always been more bullish than elsewhere, gamblers pay for leverage [2017-03-17 19:03:35] aethlios : has someone tech knowledge?? will core survive with 20% network?? how core team will react with this challenge?? [2017-03-17 19:04:27] omnomnom : I doubt they can survive without changing PoW [2017-03-17 19:04:33] Doom : hard fork is never goin to happen they all are fake news [2017-03-17 19:04:53] hmmmYea : sleger: if you just own bitcoin and short the future, you get a free BTU if the fork happens [2017-03-17 19:05:06] sleger : hmmmYea: if it settles like that, yes i know [2017-03-17 19:05:18] aethlios : hmmmYea: i said that first here. [2017-03-17 19:05:20] aethlios : haha [2017-03-17 19:05:22] hmmmYea : sleger: yea assuming [2017-03-17 19:05:27] Doom : Market manipulation. It didn't crash after the ETF announcement because someone bought up the crash. Since the coin wasn't moving anymore they sold off to buy back cheaper. Now we will have the crash we all expected after the ETF denial. [2017-03-17 19:05:28] sleger : aethlios: you didnt reinvent the wheel [2017-03-17 19:05:32] sleger : already seen it with ETC [2017-03-17 19:05:49] etoque : wait for it [2017-03-17 19:06:04] hmmmYea : aethlios: to be fair, this happens in derivatives markets occasionally.. i did not invent the idea of a basis being mispriced due to a spinoff [2017-03-17 19:06:08] etoque : its just a matter of time I know you know it [2017-03-17 19:07:06] aethlios : big winner can be ltc, core team can go and develop ltc adding SW LN etc. [2017-03-17 19:12:24] cmwprice : Where do you guys think we're going this weekend? [2017-03-17 19:12:29] aethlios : what haooens with alts on polo trading against BTC?? go to roof?? another problem. they don't trade against BTU. [2017-03-17 19:13:45] Tetsuo : aethlios: it will be a lot of fun, that´s for sure [2017-03-17 19:14:05] Tetsuo : cryptocalypse [2017-03-17 19:18:14] Tetsuo : i´m feeling not so dumb anymore that i sold 80% of my cold wallet @ ~1000$ 2-3 months ago. bank account > cold wallet right now [2017-03-17 19:18:35] Tetsuo : it will be a mess on the exchanges [2017-03-17 19:23:22] aethlios : Tetsuo: we will lose our sleep again. [2017-03-17 19:23:36] Tetsuo : aethlios: i know but in a good way [2017-03-17 19:23:50] Tetsuo : I love markets full of fear and chaos [2017-03-17 19:24:09] aethlios : we are going for war again. [2017-03-17 19:24:49] Tetsuo : locked and loaded [2017-03-17 19:27:10] Tetsuo : rapidtrades will probably be the only person that doesn´t get ADL ´d if we drop to 8-900$, that bastard [2017-03-17 19:28:31] aethlios : Tetsuo: haha, nice trick to avoid adl, a little expensive. [2017-03-17 19:29:43] Tetsuo : hard to short BTC nowadays, Kraken sucks, Bitfinex and OKkorn are shady [2017-03-17 19:30:54] Tetsuo : still sent a few coins to okcoin [2017-03-17 19:31:03] hmmmYea : Tetsuo: you should this new place, bitmex [2017-03-17 19:31:05] Tetsuo : @ the ETF crash i got adld @1200 in here [2017-03-17 19:31:12] hmmmYea : ;) [2017-03-17 19:31:22] hmmmYea : Tetsuo: oh nmd [2017-03-17 19:31:29] hmmmYea : yes [2017-03-17 19:33:35] ubba : hey guys did you hear what happened? [2017-03-17 19:33:54] BTCDJS : Tetsuo: just been banned from polo trollbox [2017-03-17 19:34:05] Tetsuo : <- lifetime ban [2017-03-17 19:34:09] Tetsuo : BTCDJS: what did u say [2017-03-17 19:34:11] BTCDJS : lol [2017-03-17 19:34:31] Tetsuo : i just trolled some admins, mad fascists they are [2017-03-17 19:35:44] herpinator : every trollbox is inferior to bitmex trollbox [2017-03-17 19:35:52] BTCDJS : All I told one of the mods is that he's job is crap cause he's like the nerdy teacher who none of the kids take seriously when he tells them to behave and they just pull pranks on. Nothing wrong with that right? [2017-03-17 19:36:35] Tetsuo : old mans kid ? sucks most is he still there? [2017-03-17 19:37:02] Tetsuo : haven´t looked at the box for over a year [2017-03-17 19:37:13] BTCDJS : dono first time I actually spoke in that troll box. Its too noisy [2017-03-17 19:37:21] BTCDJS : Also I spammed NAUT [2017-03-17 19:37:41] cryptoyolo : we goin up or down [2017-03-17 19:37:52] cryptoyolo : give me some TA boys [2017-03-17 19:37:59] BTCDJS : volume went up from 34BTC to 120BTC today [2017-03-17 19:38:25] BTCDJS : cryptoyolo: we are staying on the ground [2017-03-17 19:38:27] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 64547 @ 1128.60 **MEGA-REKT** :boom: [2017-03-17 19:40:40] cmwprice : /sentiment [2017-03-17 19:40:42] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 61.59 / 38.42 Daily : 59.57 / 40.43 Weekly : 53.21 / 46.79 Monthly : 51.41 / 48.59``` [2017-03-17 19:45:09] ubba : lol i didnt realize there was some bitcoin issues with hardforking [2017-03-17 19:45:17] ubba : going on atm [2017-03-17 19:51:39] Farzad : /rekt [2017-03-17 19:51:39] trollbot : ``` 3 recent REKTs > 100K: ``` ``` 5 hours, 31 mins ago: Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 100000 @ 1153.34 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished: ``` ``` 8 hours, 52 mins ago: Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 187400 @ 1132.51 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished: ``` ``` 10 hours, 39 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 100000 @ 1103.53 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished: ``` [2017-03-17 19:52:21] hmmmYea : ethmex should list a future on bitcoin hard fork [2017-03-17 19:52:30] hmmmYea : like COIN [2017-03-17 19:52:34] cmwprice : What's going to happen when China wakes up? Anything? [2017-03-17 19:53:55] aron : maybe it should go down? [2017-03-17 19:54:03] ubba : itll go up and down [2017-03-17 19:54:04] aron : i dunno [2017-03-17 19:54:08] ubba : thats what i think [2017-03-17 19:54:11] aron : why up? [2017-03-17 19:54:17] ubba : because people hit the buy button [2017-03-17 19:54:18] aron : i thought down then up [2017-03-17 19:54:20] aron : lol [2017-03-17 19:54:24] aron : genius [2017-03-17 19:54:35] ubba : lol [2017-03-17 19:55:33] aron : good time to buy eth [2017-03-17 19:55:49] aron : wot u guys think [2017-03-17 19:57:12] Ahhere : cmwprice: prolly buy ETH they gobbled it up recently [2017-03-17 19:58:29] BTCDJS : Ahhere: SUP [2017-03-17 19:58:35] Ahhere : aron: if we reach 60 i see 100 as inevitable [2017-03-17 19:58:39] Ahhere : BTCDJS: hay babes [2017-03-17 19:58:48] BTCDJS : wine o clock? [2017-03-17 19:59:11] aron : Ahhere then why dont u buy 1 btc worth eth at 0.06? [2017-03-17 19:59:28] aron : wait what do u mean 60? [2017-03-17 19:59:34] Ahhere : Lol no dinner party with neighbours I'll have to leave phone at home @BTCDJS [2017-03-17 19:59:41] aron : you mean 0.06 right [2017-03-17 19:59:43] Ahhere : aron: dollars [2017-03-17 19:59:49] aron : ok [2017-03-17 20:00:00] BTCDJS : Ahhere: whats in your bags? [2017-03-17 20:00:02] aron : ive never seen an ETH-USD conversion [2017-03-17 20:00:11] Ahhere : I think the dollar price is important to a lot of big ho and new investors [2017-03-17 20:00:14] aron : Ahhere what is 0.04088 eth worth right now [2017-03-17 20:00:30] DoubleU : so glad someone is propping up the new quarterly [2017-03-17 20:00:34] Ahhere : @BTCDJS same as before although market has rebalanced me. [2017-03-17 20:00:37] DoubleU : can short more higher [2017-03-17 20:01:04] BTCDJS : Im mostly in LTC got some XMR still. Small amount of ETH and NAUT<--- volume climbing [2017-03-17 20:01:22] Ahhere : I'm now 60% ETH 25% btc and the rest monero with a few stragglers [2017-03-17 20:01:37] Ahhere : I have a ltc long alright [2017-03-17 20:01:41] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 10000 @ 1123.55 [2017-03-17 20:01:56] Ahhere : BTCDJS: your cold storage is mostly ltc?? [2017-03-17 20:02:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 25000 @ 1115.67 [2017-03-17 20:02:34] ubba : oh shit [2017-03-17 20:02:42] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 500 @ 1121.03 [2017-03-17 20:02:43] BTCDJS : Ahhere: yup [2017-03-17 20:02:44] ubba : bitcoin hardfuked [2017-03-17 20:02:51] BTCDJS : bottom is in [2017-03-17 20:03:03] DoubleU : how close is BTC to hard forking [2017-03-17 20:03:26] BTCDJS : DoubleU: when your ass starts to hurt you'll know [2017-03-17 20:03:38] DoubleU : it's at 32% still for BU [2017-03-17 20:03:49] DoubleU : i say they are nowhere closer than a week ago [2017-03-17 20:04:16] aethlios : DoubleU: τηευ νεεδ 75%, ορ ψαν τρυ ςιτη 55% (>50%) [2017-03-17 20:04:16] shiroe : Hard fork = 700? :O [2017-03-17 20:04:23] BTCDJS : ETH W [2017-03-17 20:04:30] cmwprice : DoubleU: So how long do you reckon until hard fork? [2017-03-17 20:04:30] jphamer1 : is there some ether news? [2017-03-17 20:04:35] aethlios : DoubleU: they need 75%?? [2017-03-17 20:04:46] cmwprice : /sentiment [2017-03-17 20:04:48] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 66.57 / 33.43 Daily : 59.49 / 40.51 Weekly : 53.31 / 46.69 Monthly : 51.44 / 48.56``` [2017-03-17 20:04:50] Ahhere : BTCDJS: dang son ballsy i could have me a lot of ltc but fucked if i know what to expect next. Might just sit tight lots of panic [2017-03-17 20:04:57] DoubleU : i thought they just needed at least 50% https://coin.dance/blocks [2017-03-17 20:06:06] BTCDJS : Ahhere: your bags seem fine anyway. ETH got more to go it looks like. But i reduced because it looked like it went up too quick [2017-03-17 20:06:37] BitMEX_Greg : jordanH: Please refer to: https://www.bitmex.com/app/fees [2017-03-17 20:06:52] BitMEX_Greg : Our taker fee is 0.075% and maker fee is -0.025% (i.e you earn a rebate when providing liquidity) [2017-03-17 20:06:54] Ahhere : BTCDJS: now you have me ltc fomoing. I have a 4k ltc long so i should make out ok if she blows [2017-03-17 20:07:08] Ahhere : Might grab some cold storage [2017-03-17 20:07:08] aethlios : jordanH: there is maker and taker. maker has a rebate, you get paid 0.025%, taker has a 0.075% you pay [2017-03-17 20:07:31] Ahhere : aethlios: be on that LTC train [2017-03-17 20:07:52] aethlios : most stable and low drama train. [2017-03-17 20:08:21] BTCDJS : Ahhere: dont fomo but 0.005 will be tested [2017-03-17 20:08:45] BitMEX_Greg : jordanH: You can make liquidity so you can EARN 0.05% rebate if you wish. [2017-03-17 20:09:37] BitMEX_Greg : It is 0.075% if you wish to place a taker order here [2017-03-17 20:09:39] Ahhere : BTCDJS: yeah agreed seems likely [2017-03-17 20:10:33] aethlios : BitMEX_Greg: now you have huge volumes, you could reduce fees, -0.02% maker 0.05% taker lets say. [2017-03-17 20:10:37] BTCDJS : Ahhere: if it breaks though its going probably to 0.017 [2017-03-17 20:10:56] BitMEX_Greg : jordanH: If you open and close using a taker order then you pay 0.075% on both. If you open and close using a maker order then you receive 0.025% on both [2017-03-17 20:11:21] hmmmYea : jordanH: it is much cheaper than other exchanges [2017-03-17 20:11:21] BitMEX_Greg : aethlios: But we are not a not-for-profit exchange ;) [2017-03-17 20:11:47] hmmmYea : BitMEX_Greg: id also like the fees to be what ath said. i will trade more [2017-03-17 20:11:51] hmmmYea : if you do [2017-03-17 20:12:31] BitMEX_Greg : We are potentially looking into a volume-based fee structure [2017-03-17 20:12:41] bingbongfly : on kraken i pay 0% on fees :D but I like Mex leverage [2017-03-17 20:12:48] hmmmYea : jordanH: polo make .40% per trade if both traders are small... bitmex makes .05% [2017-03-17 20:12:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: buy 5 @ 0.041700 [2017-03-17 20:12:53] bingbongfly : and GUI mex is the best [2017-03-17 20:13:32] aethlios : BitMEX_Greg: you have big market share now, 0.02% maker rebate 0.05% taker fee means 0.03% and will boost volume so will earn the same or more. [2017-03-17 20:13:37] thomaskikansha : theres margin trade for polo [2017-03-17 20:13:39] Tetsuo : Bitmex is best mex!, wouldn´t complain about lower fees though [2017-03-17 20:14:06] BitMEX_Greg : aethlios: Thanks for the feedback, we will take into consideration [2017-03-17 20:14:10] hmmmYea : jordanH: i want lower fees too. [2017-03-17 20:14:27] BitMEX_Greg : jordanH: Your fee is 0.075% one way. You do not pay 15% [2017-03-17 20:14:54] BitMEX_Greg : When comparing to notional [2017-03-17 20:15:04] Tetsuo : 6 positions , all green! ez money [2017-03-17 20:16:10] aethlios : Tetsuo: take a screenshot to remember. [2017-03-17 20:16:19] Tetsuo : :-) [2017-03-17 20:16:47] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTM17`: sell 1377 @ 1135.66 [2017-03-17 20:16:49] aron : how much time till china wakes up? [2017-03-17 20:16:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 1000 @ 1118.02 [2017-03-17 20:16:53] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTM17`: sell 8000 @ 1134.90 [2017-03-17 20:17:01] hmmmYea : jordanH: it seems weird to pay lower fees just bc you exercise the option to use more leverage, no? [2017-03-17 20:17:12] Tetsuo : the korn is getting moldy [2017-03-17 20:17:15] cmwprice : /sentiment [2017-03-17 20:17:18] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 70.55 / 29.46 Daily : 59.67 / 40.33 Weekly : 53.33 / 46.67 Monthly : 51.45 / 48.55``` [2017-03-17 20:17:29] BitMEX_Greg : jordanH: You pay a % of fees on the notional you trade. It is incorrect to compare to your margin. [2017-03-17 20:17:33] hmmmYea : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kyWDhB_QeI [2017-03-17 20:19:15] hmmmYea : jordanH: i think the idea is that you pay fees on your exposure, regardless of the margin you use... the ability to use extra margin being an extra service [2017-03-17 20:19:38] cryptoyolo : O WE GOIN DOWN [2017-03-17 20:19:49] BitMEX_Greg : I'll tell you a good trick if you don't want to pay fees on your margin: deposit a lot of Bitcoin, edit your leverage to be 0.01, that way your fees are now 0.00075% of your margin. @jordanH [2017-03-17 20:20:34] KyllingLolsson : jordanH: i think not [2017-03-17 20:20:46] BitMEX_Greg : I am only providing helpful service, your good Sir. [2017-03-17 20:20:54] KyllingLolsson : u just misundersrand [2017-03-17 20:21:26] BitMEX_Greg : jordanH: Ok, so not much more to say about the matter. Please stop bringing this topic up. If you wish to make a complaint or suggestion, please email us at support@bitmex.com [2017-03-17 20:23:11] BitMEX_Greg : jordanH: Not a problem. Take care [2017-03-17 20:23:21] ubba : lol [2017-03-17 20:23:50] KyllingLolsson : Haha [2017-03-17 20:23:59] ubba : staying with ok coin [2017-03-17 20:24:00] ubba : lol [2017-03-17 20:24:33] hmmmYea : okcoin has a 100% withdrawal fee [2017-03-17 20:24:56] ubba : jordanH: im laughing cause im staying with okcoin [2017-03-17 20:24:59] BitMEX_Greg : jordanH: Going to issue you your first warning for continuing on this trivial debate. Continue and you will enter into a chat ban. [2017-03-17 20:25:00] ubba : too [2017-03-17 20:25:08] BitNut : jordanH: safer [2017-03-17 20:25:16] ubba : cant get my funds out [2017-03-17 20:26:06] ubba : just the cny site [2017-03-17 20:27:10] BitNut : jordanH: how much does ok allow users to leverage? [2017-03-17 20:27:17] ubba : 20x [2017-03-17 20:27:36] BitNut : jordanH: And mex? [2017-03-17 20:27:45] ubba : infinity leverage [2017-03-17 20:28:20] BitNut : zero fees for market maker [2017-03-17 20:28:31] BitNut : Actually, market maker earns commission [2017-03-17 20:28:51] Ahhere : jordanH: lol why u still here [2017-03-17 20:28:52] hmmmYea : jordanH: if you cant win with taker, just do maker, then you cant lose [2017-03-17 20:29:04] hmmmYea : jordanH: just check post-only [2017-03-17 20:29:22] hmmmYea : you're getting paid 2.5% of your margin JUST TO TRADE! [2017-03-17 20:29:37] ubba : but you cant do maker with mex? [2017-03-17 20:29:44] ubba : but do it with okcoin? [2017-03-17 20:29:51] ubba : ?!? [2017-03-17 20:31:11] cmwprice : /sentiment [2017-03-17 20:31:14] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 70.70 / 29.30 Daily : 59.10 / 40.90 Weekly : 53.37 / 46.64 Monthly : 51.47 / 48.53``` [2017-03-17 20:31:51] BitMEX_Greg : jordanH: I warned you, take care buddy. [2017-03-17 20:32:28] ubba : lol [2017-03-17 20:32:35] juster : purged [2017-03-17 20:32:42] BitNut : like a nagging wife [2017-03-17 20:32:51] BitMEX_Greg : Exactly [2017-03-17 20:35:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `XMR7D`: sell 35 @ 0.020234 [2017-03-17 20:37:05] cmwprice : Is this pretty much the bottom of bitcoin for now or have I got it wrong? [2017-03-17 20:37:32] ubba : yes [2017-03-17 20:38:22] cmwprice : ubba: So do you think we stay relatively flat now and creep back up? [2017-03-17 20:38:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XMR7D`: sell 2 @ 0.019967 [2017-03-17 20:39:14] aron : jesus christ why isnt xbt moving up [2017-03-17 20:39:37] cmwprice : aron: It should do soon [2017-03-17 20:39:50] aron : how much u think itll be? [2017-03-17 20:39:59] mdsmm : 1130 [2017-03-17 20:40:01] Jesus_Christ : Bitcoin shall not rise [2017-03-17 20:40:07] aron : ;_; [2017-03-17 20:40:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: sell 1000 @ 0.040980 [2017-03-17 20:40:46] Jesus_Christ : My father in heaven wishes for Alts to have their day [2017-03-17 20:40:47] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 10000 @ 1114.17 [2017-03-17 20:40:47] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 20 @ 1114.02 [2017-03-17 20:41:09] cmwprice : aron: I think we'll see 1150 again before long [2017-03-17 20:41:19] ubba : this might creep back up [2017-03-17 20:41:19] cmwprice : Not quite sure when though [2017-03-17 20:41:38] cmwprice : ubba: I think so. People will buy in around here [2017-03-17 20:41:40] Jesus_Christ : aron: Please take a break from trading XBT my child [2017-03-17 20:42:35] REKT : Abandon the ship! [2017-03-17 20:42:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 10 @ 1112.62 [2017-03-17 20:42:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 1000 @ 1112.69 [2017-03-17 20:42:36] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 6050 @ 1112.87 [2017-03-17 20:43:10] cmwprice : REKT: Don't abandon the ship at the bottom [2017-03-17 20:43:28] BTCDJS : bottom lol [2017-03-17 20:44:04] cmwprice : BTCDJS: Where do you think the bottom is then? [2017-03-17 20:44:33] BTCDJS : either 1000 or 880 or 600 [2017-03-17 20:44:52] cmwprice : BTCDJS: What kind of time frame? [2017-03-17 20:45:02] BTCDJS : Any [2017-03-17 20:45:04] mdsmm : goddammit [2017-03-17 20:45:06] amirmass : this is not the bottom [2017-03-17 20:45:09] BTCDJS : 1D [2017-03-17 20:45:10] mdsmm : I look away for a sec [2017-03-17 20:45:11] amirmass : down to 1020 [2017-03-17 20:45:12] mdsmm : and boom [2017-03-17 20:45:31] cmwprice : amirmass: nah, that's nonsense [2017-03-17 20:45:57] amirmass : ur longs will be rekt soon [2017-03-17 20:46:00] amirmass : all the longs [2017-03-17 20:46:40] cmwprice : amirmass: Why would we go down to 1020? [2017-03-17 20:46:51] amirmass : thanks for the cheap coins [2017-03-17 20:47:11] cmwprice : amirmass: Yeah, cheap coins are here [2017-03-17 20:47:30] amirmass : just opened a long [2017-03-17 20:47:33] amirmass : to the moon [2017-03-17 20:47:50] Tetsuo : 63000 contracts @ okkorn LTC quartely s [2017-03-17 20:48:01] Tetsuo : buy order ofc [2017-03-17 20:48:06] cmwprice : amirmass: You literally just said we were going to 1020?! [2017-03-17 20:49:09] amirmass : cmwprice: to fill my bids.... [2017-03-17 20:49:13] amirmass : moon time now [2017-03-17 20:49:59] cmwprice : amirmass: Haha, so you are bullish then. Where do you think we'll be by the end of the weekend? [2017-03-17 20:50:24] amirmass : we are going to 1260 again [2017-03-17 20:50:35] cmwprice : amirmass: How soon? [2017-03-17 20:50:45] mdsmm : how the fuck can he know [2017-03-17 20:50:56] amirmass : i think in 2-3 days we will be there [2017-03-17 20:51:04] amirmass : this is the bottom [2017-03-17 20:51:09] amirmass : get in before it's too late [2017-03-17 20:51:11] cmwprice : amirmass: I agree btw, dont think hard fork fear will keep us down for long [2017-03-17 20:51:22] amirmass : HF is just FD [2017-03-17 20:51:23] amirmass : fud [2017-03-17 20:51:28] amirmass : it will not happen [2017-03-17 20:51:31] cmwprice : mdsmm: I was asking for opinion [2017-03-17 20:51:36] amirmass : people needed cheap btc so they fudded it [2017-03-17 20:51:38] amirmass : and bought back [2017-03-17 20:51:45] mdsmm : haha, just kidding man [2017-03-17 20:51:50] mdsmm : I ask it all the time as well :p [2017-03-17 20:52:04] mdsmm : I like to see other people POV haha [2017-03-17 20:52:56] amirmass : incoming bounce [2017-03-17 20:54:19] Tetsuo : amirmass: plz stop trolling [2017-03-17 20:54:39] rapidtrades : lol @bounce [2017-03-17 20:55:39] cmwprice : /sentiment [2017-03-17 20:55:42] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 75.33 / 24.67 Daily : 59.03 / 40.98 Weekly : 53.68 / 46.32 Monthly : 51.49 / 48.51``` [2017-03-17 20:57:03] mdsmm : /sentiment [2017-03-17 20:57:06] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 76.56 / 23.44 Daily : 59.17 / 40.84 Weekly : 53.75 / 46.25 Monthly : 51.50 / 48.50``` [2017-03-17 20:57:07] rapidtrades : goddam LTC needs to suicide real quick [2017-03-17 20:57:29] BTCDJS : Man that polo troll box is like being at school [2017-03-17 20:59:20] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: suicide? don't be silly [2017-03-17 20:59:45] amirmass : LONG BTC HERE [2017-03-17 21:00:05] BTCDJS : ban amirmass here [2017-03-17 21:00:05] rapidtrades : amirmass: shut up trash [2017-03-17 21:00:14] amirmass : rapidtrades: shhhhhh [2017-03-17 21:00:18] amirmass : dont get rekt shorting [2017-03-17 21:00:23] amirmass : buy now [2017-03-17 21:00:37] Tetsuo : rapidtrades: why the fuck are you shorting Litekorn [2017-03-17 21:00:47] Tetsuo : risk reward is ultrabad [2017-03-17 21:00:48] BTCDJS : ^^^ [2017-03-17 21:00:53] rapidtrades : cuz china [2017-03-17 21:01:04] Tetsuo : bad decision man [2017-03-17 21:01:08] BTCDJS : ^^^ [2017-03-17 21:01:21] Tetsuo : they will pump it like every other alt [2017-03-17 21:01:25] BTCDJS : ^^^ [2017-03-17 21:01:26] Tetsuo : especially now that BTC gets forked [2017-03-17 21:01:27] mdsmm : rapidtrades: thoughts on bitcoin? [2017-03-17 21:01:35] Tetsuo : looks bad [2017-03-17 21:01:42] BTCDJS : `very bad` [2017-03-17 21:01:46] rapidtrades : mdsmm: it's garbage [2017-03-17 21:01:58] BTCDJS : `Shitcoin` [2017-03-17 21:02:12] BTCDJS : `Turdcoin` [2017-03-17 21:02:27] BTCDJS : `fecescoin` [2017-03-17 21:04:59] 24hourz : here we go [2017-03-17 21:06:25] BTCDJS : http://www.altcointoday.com/trump-administration-buying-blockchain-tech/ [2017-03-17 21:06:40] BTCDJS : trump [2017-03-17 21:06:57] BTCDJS : drumpf [2017-03-17 21:07:28] BTCDJS : dick [2017-03-17 21:07:39] BTCDJS : shit [2017-03-17 21:08:49] amirmass : LONG NOW [2017-03-17 21:08:51] Tetsuo : i would really like it if they would autocorrect BTC into SCAM [2017-03-17 21:10:03] cmwprice : /sentiment [2017-03-17 21:10:06] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 80.36 / 19.64 Daily : 58.73 / 41.27 Weekly : 52.99 / 47.01 Monthly : 51.51 / 48.49``` [2017-03-17 21:10:22] Tetsuo : sell walls are up@ Finex [2017-03-17 21:10:27] Tetsuo : 500 BTC [2017-03-17 21:10:47] Sarah : is ethereum about to crash? [2017-03-17 21:11:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 11 @ 1111.39 [2017-03-17 21:11:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 600 @ 1102.38 [2017-03-17 21:11:23] amirmass : good long here [2017-03-17 21:11:33] cmwprice : amirmass: Me too [2017-03-17 21:11:43] cmwprice : Nobdoy left to sell [2017-03-17 21:11:48] Tetsuo : Sarah: no Sarah [2017-03-17 21:12:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 400 @ 1110.39 [2017-03-17 21:12:22] cmwprice : /price [2017-03-17 21:12:25] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1108.98 (-1.42%) Bitfinex : 1100.30 (-1.85%) The Woodchipper : 1112.00 (-1.42%) itBit : 1105.98 (-1.28%) Kraken : 1080.00 (-1.10%) GDAX : 1106.44 (-1.47%) SLQ : 2 hours, 24 mins``` [2017-03-17 21:12:38] Sarah : Tetsuo: why [2017-03-17 21:13:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 240 @ 1109.27 [2017-03-17 21:13:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 20000 @ 1108.60 [2017-03-17 21:13:06] Tetsuo : Sarah: because BTC is on the verge of collapse [2017-03-17 21:13:23] cmwprice : Tetsuo: Why do you think this? [2017-03-17 21:13:40] Tetsuo : cmwprice: hardfork`??? [2017-03-17 21:13:48] rapidtrades : btc collapse = ltc collapse [2017-03-17 21:14:03] cmwprice : Tetsuo: But is that really going to happen? [2017-03-17 21:14:11] Tetsuo : cmwprice: yes sir [2017-03-17 21:14:20] cmwprice : Tetsuo: I'm not so sure [2017-03-17 21:14:32] rapidtrades : was ETF rly going to happen? [2017-03-17 21:14:46] rapidtrades : No but didn't stop u tools buying like crazy [2017-03-17 21:14:53] cmwprice : rapidtrades: Do you think hard fork will happen? [2017-03-17 21:15:06] KyllingLolsson : Bitcoin wants suicide [2017-03-17 21:15:18] KyllingLolsson : jump off [2017-03-17 21:15:21] Dynamix : BTC gonna move down like a rock ;) [2017-03-17 21:15:32] rapidtrades : i don't know but fundamentals are terrible without HF anyway [2017-03-17 21:15:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: sell 48 @ 0.041860 [2017-03-17 21:15:45] cmwprice : rapidtrades: Such as? [2017-03-17 21:16:11] Tetsuo : cmwprice: have u benn living under a rock [2017-03-17 21:16:37] cmwprice : Tetsuo: What other bad news is there? People dont care about etf [2017-03-17 21:17:03] Tetsuo : cmwprice: network has become shit, high fees , hour long tx confirmations [2017-03-17 21:17:05] hmmmYea : cmwprice: IRS going after coinbase users and hard fork [2017-03-17 21:17:05] Tetsuo : china dead [2017-03-17 21:17:27] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 400 @ 1105.51 [2017-03-17 21:17:27] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 144000 @ 1105.32 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished: [2017-03-17 21:17:47] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTM17`: sell 200000 @ 1113.37 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire: [2017-03-17 21:17:56] KyllingLolsson : JUMP JUMP JUMP [2017-03-17 21:18:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 100 @ 1093.07 [2017-03-17 21:18:05] Sarah : so you say bitcoin will be $300 and thats why eth is 0.04 instead of 0.01? [2017-03-17 21:18:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 640 @ 1103.66 [2017-03-17 21:18:33] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 6000 @ 1100.47 [2017-03-17 21:18:33] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 500 @ 1096.30 [2017-03-17 21:18:33] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 100000 @ 1096.45 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished: [2017-03-17 21:18:33] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 5000 @ 1095.52 [2017-03-17 21:18:33] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 2329 @ 1097.51 [2017-03-17 21:18:37] bingbongfly : noo [2017-03-17 21:18:38] Tetsuo : SCAM [2017-03-17 21:18:43] KyllingLolsson : WOOO [2017-03-17 21:18:46] Dynamix : deleveraged DF ? [2017-03-17 21:18:46] Tetsuo : F U L B [2017-03-17 21:19:21] cmwprice : /sentiment [2017-03-17 21:19:21] bingbongfly : Wait a minute [2017-03-17 21:19:23] herpinator : oy vey [2017-03-17 21:19:23] bingbongfly : all my profit [2017-03-17 21:19:24] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 77.87 / 22.13 Daily : 59.26 / 40.74 Weekly : 52.94 / 47.06 Monthly : 51.55 / 48.45``` [2017-03-17 21:19:24] Tetsuo : Litekorn users `not affected` [2017-03-17 21:19:28] bingbongfly : is going to be worthless! [2017-03-17 21:19:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTM17`: sell 2500 @ 1064.83 [2017-03-17 21:19:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTM17`: sell 1500 @ 1065.30 [2017-03-17 21:19:42] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 50 @ 1090.93 [2017-03-17 21:19:42] bingbongfly : I'm gonna make 1000 worthless bitcoins on this short! [2017-03-17 21:19:46] KyllingLolsson : See you at 1000? [2017-03-17 21:19:47] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 30000 @ 1087.03 [2017-03-17 21:19:54] bingbongfly : Bitmex can you add ETH as currency here isntead please [2017-03-17 21:20:11] shiroe : dance to the tune of drums drummin. [2017-03-17 21:20:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 4000 @ 1085.13 [2017-03-17 21:21:10] aron : jesus [2017-03-17 21:21:14] aron : whats happening to bitcoin [2017-03-17 21:21:27] theflippening : basically every exchange announced that they are batshit crazy [2017-03-17 21:21:34] herpinator : lol [2017-03-17 21:21:40] aron : please elaborate [2017-03-17 21:21:52] Tetsuo : aron: killed by death [2017-03-17 21:22:22] ubba : etf rejected? [2017-03-17 21:22:36] Tetsuo : there goes your pemium quarterlys [2017-03-17 21:22:49] KyllingLolsson : What is premium??? [2017-03-17 21:22:55] KyllingLolsson : never get that [2017-03-17 21:23:00] Tetsuo : KyllingLolsson: hint: not a discount [2017-03-17 21:23:01] theflippening : they are calling bitcoin core "BTC" in the event of a fork, and bitcoin unlimited "British Thermal Units" [2017-03-17 21:23:09] BTCDJS : aron: are you a new trader? [2017-03-17 21:23:22] aron : yes but i dont see what that as to do with anything [2017-03-17 21:23:32] aron : i have never seen bitcoin go so crazy with no news [2017-03-17 21:23:35] theflippening : also, if you loan out Bitcoin core, you will not receive any BTUs when you are paid back [2017-03-17 21:23:47] cmwprice : /sentiment [2017-03-17 21:23:47] BTCDJS : aron: well I will explain to you if you are new [2017-03-17 21:23:49] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 80.87 / 19.13 Daily : 59.72 / 40.28 Weekly : 52.96 / 47.04 Monthly : 51.61 / 48.39``` [2017-03-17 21:23:56] Tetsuo : aron: NEWS are as BAD as it gets, they have never been worse [2017-03-17 21:24:17] cmwprice : Tetsuo: This is such crap [2017-03-17 21:24:20] aron : I only know about some hard fork left news for btc [2017-03-17 21:24:21] BTCDJS : News is bad [2017-03-17 21:25:14] KyllingLolsson : BTCDJS: Hey, next stop 1000? [2017-03-17 21:25:26] Derreck : wtf happened [2017-03-17 21:25:35] aron : BTCDjs u were gonna explain [2017-03-17 21:25:39] BTCDJS : bitcoin had a good run. everyone got `Euphoric` and now they are going to get depressed [2017-03-17 21:25:41] aron : Derreck I am astounded [2017-03-17 21:25:48] Derreck : btc drives me crazy today [2017-03-17 21:25:51] KyllingLolsson : Link 2 news?? [2017-03-17 21:25:52] amirmass : https://www.coinexchange.io/market/GMB/BTC [2017-03-17 21:25:55] amirmass : the next X100 coin [2017-03-17 21:25:58] amirmass : get in now [2017-03-17 21:25:58] aethlios : adl 1066 june [2017-03-17 21:25:58] BTCDJS : KyllingLolsson: looks bad [2017-03-17 21:26:03] Tetsuo : https://youtu.be/K6DCQTrWJBk?t=10m1s