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[2017-03-17 14:13:04] bingbongfly : ETH discount! load up
[2017-03-17 14:13:28] rapidtrades : 3.45 is just stupid....i wouldn't say a ripoff cos they're not keeping it
[2017-03-17 14:13:43] aethlios : i should have bought a 100x futures btc fees contract and make 000s of profit.
[2017-03-17 14:13:45] rapidtrades : total waste of money
[2017-03-17 14:13:48] MrRGnome : If segwit gets passed the multisig wallets will go way down in fee cost
[2017-03-17 14:13:52] hmmmYea : rapidtrades: agreed
[2017-03-17 14:14:23] MrRGnome : Could be well over a year before it's activated though
[2017-03-17 14:14:47] hmmmYea : MrRGnome: people may not care about bitcoin in a year
[2017-03-17 14:15:15] MrRGnome : hmmmYea: then let it crash, all the more bitcoin for me.
[2017-03-17 14:15:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: sell 1 @ 0.038920
[2017-03-17 14:15:53] hmmmYea : MrRGnome: ?
[2017-03-17 14:15:57] Nick Leeson : MrRGnome: Thats not what I said. I said that fees make miners more profitable short term. This will make make it possible to invest more in asics. Asics are bought from fiat. Thats btc out of the ecosystem. Its like the dog eating its own tail. Of course in long term equilibrium is reached. Unfourtunately with selfreinforcing things like this it can take quite some time, while price moves toward its balance point.
[2017-03-17 14:16:21] hmmmYea : Nick Leeson: all that is right
[2017-03-17 14:16:38] aethlios : Tetsuo: impressive how well ltcusd holds while btcusd dumps
[2017-03-17 14:16:40] MrRGnome : I said exactly what you siad and did not take any other meaning from it. What you are saying directly contradicts the idea that price rises == fees rise
[2017-03-17 14:17:22] hmmmYea : MrRGnome: no it doesnt
[2017-03-17 14:17:31] Tetsuo : aethlios: okkorn quarts startin to pump now, BTC-e next
[2017-03-17 14:17:32] MrRGnome : Your idea evaluates to price rises, fees follow a lagging negative correlation to price as they are used to buy fiat, thus pushing down price
[2017-03-17 14:18:10] MrRGnome : You can't have price up == fees up but fees up == price down
[2017-03-17 14:18:12] MrRGnome : Shit's incoherent
[2017-03-17 14:18:59] hmmmYea : MrRGnome: no. thats not what he's saying at all
[2017-03-17 14:19:25] MrRGnome : So he's not saying that increased fees with price rises will be sold, for fiat, to buy asic?
[2017-03-17 14:19:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: sell 90 @ 0.038280
[2017-03-17 14:19:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: sell 34 @ 0.038280
[2017-03-17 14:19:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: sell 100 @ 0.038270
[2017-03-17 14:19:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: sell 2 @ 0.038210
[2017-03-17 14:20:19] KyllingLolsson : /sentiment
[2017-03-17 14:20:21] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 63.61 / 36.39 Daily : 60.57 / 39.43 Weekly : 53.47 / 46.53 Monthly : 51.31 / 48.70```
[2017-03-17 14:20:37] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 100000 @ 1153.34 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:
[2017-03-17 14:22:16] hmmmYea : MrRGnome: if we want to reduce what he's saying.. its that fees => higher block rewards... most of that money is spent on useless stuff like asics and electricity. so all the new money coming into bitcoin, first has to fund the block rewards.. then price will rise to find sellers willing to cash out. the higher the block reward, the less fiat available to buy bitcoins from hodlers
[2017-03-17 14:22:38] MrRGnome : How do you not comprehehnd that I am accepting your premise, and drawing a conclusion from it.
[2017-03-17 14:23:09] hmmmYea : highers fees are functionally equivalent to higher inflation
[2017-03-17 14:23:22] hmmmYea : of supply
[2017-03-17 14:23:25] MrRGnome : Dear lord
[2017-03-17 14:23:37] MrRGnome : This is the problem with bitcoiners, not enough technical savy and too much arm chair economics
[2017-03-17 14:25:39] MrRGnome : An increased block reward IS inflation. An increased fee is not an increased block reward, no matter how it may seem like it or what the fee is spent on. What you're describing is not inflation.
[2017-03-17 14:25:59] MrRGnome : inflation == the coinbase reward only, not fee.
[2017-03-17 14:26:27] hmmmYea : MrRGnome: omg. duh.
[2017-03-17 14:26:43] MrRGnome : [08:23] hmmmYea: highers fees are functionally equivalent to higher inflation of supply
[2017-03-17 14:27:00] hmmmYea : MrRGnome: but the effect of more fees on the prices of bitcoin and the market supply of bitcoin IS equivalent to having a higher block reward
[2017-03-17 14:27:13] datboiyuan : how
[2017-03-17 14:27:20] MrRGnome : No, it really isn't.
[2017-03-17 14:27:31] hmmmYea : MrRGnome: functionally equivalent and "==" are the not same thing
[2017-03-17 14:27:33] MrRGnome : It's more money in the miners pocket and does nothing to inflate btc
[2017-03-17 14:27:47] hmmmYea : MrRGnome: no it isnt.
[2017-03-17 14:27:57] datboiyuan : the fee is closer to wage than inflation
[2017-03-17 14:27:58] hmmmYea : MrRGnome: and thats where YOU are wrong
[2017-03-17 14:28:02] MrRGnome : If you think that more money in th eminers pocket is functionally equivilant to inflation you don't know what inflation is
[2017-03-17 14:28:12] hmmmYea : MrRGnome: bitcoin mining is a low margin business
[2017-03-17 14:28:16] MrRGnome : I can't help someone who hsa such sever term confusion
[2017-03-17 14:30:03] sleger : "hmmmYea: MrRGnome: bitcoin mining is a low margin business" <= do you have any idea how much it costs to mine a bitcoin currently ?
[2017-03-17 14:30:16] sleger : for chinese miners,, not you with a GPU
[2017-03-17 14:30:38] MrRGnome : I do, I keep the number handy as my potential bottom price floor.
[2017-03-17 14:31:19] rapidtrades : sleger: i heard current cost is 600$ for 1y old equipment
[2017-03-17 14:31:21] sleger : MrRGnome: my question was to the other idiot
[2017-03-17 14:31:32] sleger : coz he said its low margin... has no clue
[2017-03-17 14:31:38] rapidtrades : so that's almost 100%
[2017-03-17 14:31:43] rapidtrades : gain right there
[2017-03-17 14:31:44] sleger : "low margin"
[2017-03-17 14:31:58] rapidtrades : MrRGnome: whats the number
[2017-03-17 14:32:00] Nick Leeson : Apparently scaling discussions always evolve into problems. So on another note, calculated emission rates today. ETH is at 530 mill usd a year with price at 47$, compare that to Bitcoin 740 mill at 1130, and Zcash at 128 mill, and Litecoin at 22 mill.
[2017-03-17 14:32:07] hmmmYea : sleger: its low margin for the marginal producer....
[2017-03-17 14:32:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: buy 500 @ 0.038820
[2017-03-17 14:32:23] datboiyuan : like you in your closet?
[2017-03-17 14:32:31] datboiyuan : that's why no one solo mines btc
[2017-03-17 14:32:34] hmmmYea : sleger: and if you steal electricity, you are taking other risks
[2017-03-17 14:33:10] datboiyuan : I mine with my xbox, gets me like .5 btc every 18months
[2017-03-17 14:33:12] datboiyuan : pretty good
[2017-03-17 14:34:24] MrRGnome : Using chinese elec rates and old antminers I'm coming up with ~$500 @rapidtrades
[2017-03-17 14:35:03] KyllingLolsson : /sentiment
[2017-03-17 14:35:06] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 53.23 / 46.77 Daily : 60.63 / 39.37 Weekly : 53.37 / 46.63 Monthly : 51.30 / 48.70```
[2017-03-17 14:36:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: buy 30 @ 0.039380
[2017-03-17 14:37:51] rapidtrades : MrRGnome: s9?
[2017-03-17 14:40:08] cryptoyolo : btc to 1185
[2017-03-17 14:40:09] MrRGnome : I'm using the S9 numbers of 0.1 joules per gh
[2017-03-17 14:40:12] MrRGnome : rapidtrades:
[2017-03-17 14:41:41] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 1000 @ 1159.38
[2017-03-17 14:43:54] hmmmYea : sleger: hey, i have a test for you. i know you've been to impress with your credentials and trade history... but i dont care about that. want to play? if you can answer, i actually will be legitmately impressed.
[2017-03-17 14:44:42] sleger : test on what ?
[2017-03-17 14:44:57] hmmmYea : know of crypto derivatives
[2017-03-17 14:45:00] hmmmYea : knowledge*
[2017-03-17 14:45:15] sleger : 3 min, phone call to make
[2017-03-17 14:45:20] hmmmYea : unlike credentials, i can trustlessly verify
[2017-03-17 14:45:21] hmmmYea : ok
[2017-03-17 14:47:05] rapidtrades : im getting 730$ profit per year with 1300$ investment
[2017-03-17 14:47:06] sup : mm
[2017-03-17 14:47:15] sleger : hmmmYea: ok, not so sure what there is to know about crypto derivatives but go ahead
[2017-03-17 14:47:27] rapidtrades : not taking into account difficulty increases
[2017-03-17 14:47:43] sleger : i've traded what i've traded, i might not know about what i havent traded...
[2017-03-17 14:48:16] hmmmYea : sleger: 1. what's the basis bt bitmex Jun futes and index spot worth and why? 2. what are the most important risk factors that affect its value?
[2017-03-17 14:48:27] sup : im getting 5000$ profit per year with just 100$
[2017-03-17 14:48:28] sleger : oh its a real quiz
[2017-03-17 14:48:32] hmmmYea : that should be 1. and 2., but i cant type
[2017-03-17 14:48:35] sleger : lol i dont have time for all that
[2017-03-17 14:48:35] MrRGnome : painfully dumb. It just hurts. @hmmmYea Doesn't the sound of your own typing make you cringe
[2017-03-17 14:48:38] sup : in sports betting
[2017-03-17 14:48:39] datboiyuan : jesus
[2017-03-17 14:48:48] hmmmYea : sleger: fair enough
[2017-03-17 14:48:50] sleger : i thought it was a smart quick answer question @hmmmYea
[2017-03-17 14:50:33] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTH17`: buy 20000 @ 1165.37
[2017-03-17 14:50:34] hmmmYea : sleger: the worst trader i ever knew was also the best at answering factual questions about trading
[2017-03-17 14:50:54] sleger : but these are not even smart tricky questions
[2017-03-17 14:51:07] sleger : i thought you were going to ask me something like what made the 796 futures special
[2017-03-17 14:51:12] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 350 @ 1162.58
[2017-03-17 14:51:30] MrRGnome : You can answer the first half of the question by just looking at the instrument but ht esecond have is entirely speculative and subjective
[2017-03-17 14:51:31] hmmmYea : sleger: pretty sure most of the people in this trollbox would not even know how to start answering it though
[2017-03-17 14:51:56] hmmmYea : sleger: like MrR's answer, for instance
[2017-03-17 14:52:00] sleger : MrRGnome: the answer to 2 is because thats what people here are willing to pay for it....
[2017-03-17 14:52:23] sleger : and sell of course
[2017-03-17 14:52:38] MrRGnome : He asked what the risk factors were in the difference between basis and index. And he's a retard.
[2017-03-17 14:53:26] hmmmYea : sleger: the "whatever the market decides" answer is reductive
[2017-03-17 14:53:27] laisee : do we have to pass a test now in order to trade?
[2017-03-17 14:53:45] sleger : laisee: you dont get to ask questions
[2017-03-17 14:54:07] laisee : Y?
[2017-03-17 14:54:07] MrRGnome : No, but I'm interested in something. @hmmmYea Why don't you calculate for me what it costs to mine a bitcoin with an S7. Show your math.
[2017-03-17 14:54:15] sleger : laisee: its hmmmyeah turn
[2017-03-17 14:54:27] sleger : MrRGnome: its low margin
[2017-03-17 14:54:29] hmmmYea : MrRGnome: bc i dont care what you think about me
[2017-03-17 14:54:43] MrRGnome : hmmmYea: So you can or cannot do math?
[2017-03-17 14:55:00] sleger : i thought we were gonna have more fun questions
[2017-03-17 14:55:01] laisee : sleger: I am waiting my turn to be shown up as the turnip that I am
[2017-03-17 14:55:03] sleger : i have one
[2017-03-17 14:55:51] laisee : Je sui un Turnip
[2017-03-17 14:56:25] sleger : how much would you pay now to be able to enter a position in a perp swap quanto without funding that is marked to spot and you can exit at anytime at spot price ?
[2017-03-17 14:57:14] hmmmYea : sleger: the quanto pays in dollars or bitcoins?
[2017-03-17 14:57:24] hmmmYea : like what is its home currency
[2017-03-17 14:57:24] laisee : der
[2017-03-17 14:57:32] sleger : btc
[2017-03-17 14:57:35] laisee : quanto means
[2017-03-17 14:57:43] sleger : like a bitmex product, like they had before
[2017-03-17 14:57:53] hmmmYea : sleger: ahhh.gotcha
[2017-03-17 14:58:07] sleger : see, thats a more fun question
[2017-03-17 14:58:16] hmmmYea : sleger: i can hold it for forever if i want?
[2017-03-17 14:58:20] sleger : yes
[2017-03-17 14:58:51] sleger : no leverage at entry, cant use pnl until you realize it
[2017-03-17 14:59:06] hmmmYea : sleger: i dont have long term data on the funding rates
[2017-03-17 14:59:15] sleger : no funding i said
[2017-03-17 14:59:34] hmmmYea : sleger: i dont have long term data on the bitmex swap
[2017-03-17 14:59:47] hmmmYea : that i would use this instrument as a hedge to my arb
[2017-03-17 14:59:50] sleger : what do you need to know ?
[2017-03-17 15:00:06] MrRGnome : sleger: If it's marked to spot, you'd pay spot. Although not sure how a perpetual swap futures can exist without funding or loan interest and still track the marked spot.
[2017-03-17 15:00:18] hmmmYea : sleger: can i get ADL'd?
[2017-03-17 15:01:58] rapidtrades : lol @thesenewbs asking sleger Qs
[2017-03-17 15:02:06] rapidtrades : he's not a helpful person
[2017-03-17 15:02:54] BTCDJS : Yes he is
[2017-03-17 15:02:59] hmmmYea : sleger: i think you would pay almost the whole price of bitcoin... bc its a free option with infinite time until maturity
[2017-03-17 15:03:43] rapidtrades : swap is stupid madeup product
[2017-03-17 15:03:54] BTCDJS : no its not
[2017-03-17 15:03:55] sleger : what do you mean by paying the whole price of bitcoin ?
[2017-03-17 15:03:59] rapidtrades : im just looking to exit and never enter again
[2017-03-17 15:04:02] MrRGnome : all derivatives are stupid made up products
[2017-03-17 15:04:06] sleger : you cant get adl in that contract
[2017-03-17 15:04:09] BTCDJS : no you arent
[2017-03-17 15:04:22] hmmmYea : sleger: if you lose you never close, if you win you can exercise when it is in exercisable
[2017-03-17 15:04:25] MrRGnome : Are you still short eth and btc?
[2017-03-17 15:04:25] rapidtrades : yes i am
[2017-03-17 15:04:28] MrRGnome : rapidtrades:
[2017-03-17 15:04:30] BTCDJS : no you're not
[2017-03-17 15:04:32] MrRGnome : Ahh shit man.
[2017-03-17 15:04:53] sleger : hmmmYea: you can exercise whenever you want, your choice, but i think you're all missing the point here
[2017-03-17 15:04:55] rapidtrades : im only short swap cos don't want to get ADLed above 1k
[2017-03-17 15:05:04] sleger : if @j8 was around he'd probably know
[2017-03-17 15:05:04] MrRGnome : Why would he suddenly start lying for attention now, he's obnoxious enough to get all the attention he needs. @BTCDJS
[2017-03-17 15:05:16] hmmmYea : sleger: if i am losing, i dont have to put up margin right?
[2017-03-17 15:05:29] hmmmYea : thats what i thought you said
[2017-03-17 15:05:36] BTCDJS : MrRGnome: no he isnt
[2017-03-17 15:05:36] rapidtrades : im not short ETH dumbass...i was replying to BTCJDS
[2017-03-17 15:05:40] rapidtrades : MrRGnome:
[2017-03-17 15:06:13] MrRGnome : rapidtrades you were at one point, I remember because you being short made me exit my short because I don't want to be dumb like you.
[2017-03-17 15:06:19] hmmmYea : sleger: so its funcitonally equivalent to a perpetual american call struck at the money
[2017-03-17 15:06:21] sleger : no you dont need to, lets say you have collateral in $ that makes it 0 risk , you will always have enough margin
[2017-03-17 15:06:40] hmmmYea : sleger: ohhh
[2017-03-17 15:06:47] datboiyuan : hmmmYea: big words fancy terms AHHH!!!
[2017-03-17 15:06:48] sleger : hmmmYea: no its not just a call, you have the swap so you lose as it goes down
[2017-03-17 15:06:54] hmmmYea : i thought you didnt have to post margin if you were losing on the swap at all
[2017-03-17 15:07:02] hmmmYea : sleger: i understand
[2017-03-17 15:07:12] hmmmYea : sleger: THAT would have been a good brainteaser
[2017-03-17 15:07:20] KyllingLolsson : /sentiment
[2017-03-17 15:07:23] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 35.58 / 64.42 Daily : 60.28 / 39.72 Weekly : 52.90 / 47.10 Monthly : 51.28 / 48.72```
[2017-03-17 15:09:07] hmmmYea : sleger: i think it only real value derives from its utility hedging the bitmex perp swap. im not sure what a good estimate is for the quilibrium funding rate.. but whatever that is, discounted at my own discount rate
[2017-03-17 15:09:37] sleger : you're completely ignoring the fact its a quanto
[2017-03-17 15:10:26] hmmmYea : sleger: fuck me
[2017-03-17 15:10:36] hmmmYea : sleger: yea, you're right
[2017-03-17 15:10:40] hmmmYea : sleger: are you from drw?
[2017-03-17 15:11:08] sleger : i have never said where i work
[2017-03-17 15:11:25] hmmmYea : sleger: i know. have you ever worked at drw?
[2017-03-17 15:11:44] sleger : i dont answer personal questions like that
[2017-03-17 15:12:04] hmmmYea : hmmmm
[2017-03-17 15:12:15] hmmmYea : but yes. you just price the convexity
[2017-03-17 15:12:38] hmmmYea : sleger: is this chad?
[2017-03-17 15:13:03] sleger : chad ?
[2017-03-17 15:13:15] hmmmYea : sleger: is your first name chad?
[2017-03-17 15:13:47] Tetsuo : chad sleger?
[2017-03-17 15:13:50] Tetsuo : doesn´t sound french
[2017-03-17 15:14:02] sleger : lol no
[2017-03-17 15:14:21] BTCDJS : sleger: whats your star sign
[2017-03-17 15:14:36] sleger : Whale
[2017-03-17 15:14:48] BTCDJS : favorite color?
[2017-03-17 15:14:58] sleger : blue, like all whales
[2017-03-17 15:15:16] BTCDJS : only a Chad would say things like that
[2017-03-17 15:15:35] sleger : damn, you got me
[2017-03-17 15:24:01] aethlios : sleger: 1020 ορ 1200???
[2017-03-17 15:24:07] aethlios : or
[2017-03-17 15:24:19] sleger : aethlios: next price hit ?
[2017-03-17 15:24:38] aethlios : sleger: next price level. retest ETF bottom??
[2017-03-17 15:24:55] sleger : we are closer to 1200 so its more likely
[2017-03-17 15:25:09] sleger : LTC, 3 or 20 first ?
[2017-03-17 15:25:42] Tetsuo : :-(
[2017-03-17 15:26:24] aethlios : if stabilizes above 5 (5,00-5,25) then 90% goes 20, 10% 3. too soon to say, need to kill triangle with convincing volume. but holds well while btc dumping.
[2017-03-17 15:27:04] aethlios : i say 1020 btc 75% prob. and 25% 1200
[2017-03-17 15:29:12] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 3950 @ 1159.09
[2017-03-17 15:29:12] REKT : Have a bowl of chop-chop suey!
[2017-03-17 15:34:04] ferpozie : Hello
[2017-03-17 15:34:54] ferpozie : Is it possible to post a trade without leverage from the beginning and introduce leverage if there is a price increase?
[2017-03-17 15:35:58] aethlios : ferpozie: yes, clisk 5x, 10x etc.
[2017-03-17 15:36:04] BitMEX_Greg : ferpozie: Yes you can do so, however this will not increase your position size
[2017-03-17 15:46:57] aethlios : dash 100 usd again
[2017-03-17 15:55:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: sell 10 @ 0.038460
[2017-03-17 15:55:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: sell 25 @ 0.038910
[2017-03-17 15:56:16] barrack obama : Hello fellows, why at 1pm all my positions automatically closed
[2017-03-17 15:56:19] KyllingLolsson : /sentiment
[2017-03-17 15:56:22] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 51.58 / 48.42 Daily : 60.25 / 39.75 Weekly : 52.92 / 47.08 Monthly : 51.29 / 48.71```
[2017-03-17 15:56:55] barrack obama : on 3 accounts...
[2017-03-17 15:57:17] hmmmYea : is the polo API less laggy than the polo on my browser?
[2017-03-17 15:57:25] barrack obama : Did finish 7day contract at 1pm? or why
[2017-03-17 15:57:41] BitMEX_Sam : barrack obama: Yes, see your https://www.bitmex.com/app/tradeHistory
[2017-03-17 15:57:44] sleger : barrack obama: ask Hillary
[2017-03-17 16:00:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: sell 500 @ 0.038990
[2017-03-17 16:00:36] barrack obama : she doesnt know
[2017-03-17 16:07:15] sleger : barrack obama: she probably deleted the email to not leave any trace
[2017-03-17 16:10:34] Farzad : LOCK HER UP
[2017-03-17 16:10:34] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: buy 50 @ 0.039780
[2017-03-17 16:15:08] Ahhere : Farzad: "because you'd be in jail." Best debate comment in history. Lol
[2017-03-17 16:15:26] Farzad : lol yeah
[2017-03-17 16:17:24] Sultan Pepper : How did Donald's rape charges go?
[2017-03-17 16:17:53] Sultan Pepper : You know, the underage girl at the sex party
[2017-03-17 16:18:59] Farzad : Sultan Pepper: it was a lie
[2017-03-17 16:19:34] Actualiteit : Sultan Pepper: werent the charges dropped because oh dear it was all bullshit?
[2017-03-17 16:20:21] Actualiteit : something something fake news the MSM is complaining about while they did it themselves during the election LOL
[2017-03-17 16:22:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: sell 381 @ 0.038360
[2017-03-17 16:22:39] l3f : sleger: hey I have a question, you say you never use stops, what happens if you find yourself in a losing trade? Do you average down or cut?
[2017-03-17 16:23:27] l3f : And how often do you check your positions? How long do you trade every day?
[2017-03-17 16:23:36] KyllingLolsson : /sentiment
[2017-03-17 16:23:38] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 57.67 / 42.33 Daily : 60.44 / 39.56 Weekly : 52.87 / 47.13 Monthly : 51.30 / 48.70```
[2017-03-17 16:23:57] freact : I was in a pretty bad long yesterday, over 1200. I averaged down all night in the dips and sold at a modest profit today
[2017-03-17 16:24:12] freact : but im a noob
[2017-03-17 16:25:14] sleger : l3f: i dont know it never happens
[2017-03-17 16:25:21] freact : lol
[2017-03-17 16:25:34] sleger : jk, doesnt matter if trade is winning or losing, if i think it is still a good position i keep it, otherwise i dont
[2017-03-17 16:26:48] l3f : sleger: what size is your typical position relative to your total account size?
[2017-03-17 16:26:54] hmmmYea : sleger: unlike most of what sleger says, that actually is good advice
[2017-03-17 16:27:20] stanleylee : /wall
[2017-03-17 16:27:28] sleger : everything i say seriously is good advice, most people just cant understand it
[2017-03-17 16:27:55] sleger : l3f: what if I have 1 btc and 1btc long swap 1 btc short quaterly, how should i answer your question ?
[2017-03-17 16:28:54] l3f : You always take risk free arb and never hold btc positions?
[2017-03-17 16:29:34] ferpozie : BitMEX_Greg: and will not increase profits too. So what is the advantage of introducing the leverage after posting the trade?
[2017-03-17 16:29:37] sleger : i didnt say that
[2017-03-17 16:30:11] l3f : sleger: I think how much do you risk per trade would be a better question
[2017-03-17 16:30:33] sleger : i dont put risk per trade
[2017-03-17 16:30:48] l3f : how does that work?
[2017-03-17 16:30:51] atlanta : What exactly happens at settlement on future contracts like ETH7D? Who purchases the long or short positions ?
[2017-03-17 16:31:02] l3f : atlanta: cash settled
[2017-03-17 16:31:02] sleger : but i'd say, if i own 1000btc, i almost never have a net long or short position above 1000btc
[2017-03-17 16:31:48] atlanta : l3f: does that mean all open positions are averaged to a price ?
[2017-03-17 16:31:57] ferpozie : is there an advatage in buying futures or swaps?
[2017-03-17 16:32:05] l3f : atlanta: no it is like a cfd
[2017-03-17 16:32:15] aethlios : http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-exchanges-unveil-emergency-hard-fork-contingency-plan/ what a mess, civil war.
[2017-03-17 16:32:48] Actualiteit : aethlios: ridiculous
[2017-03-17 16:35:44] hmmmYea : aethlios: miners just looking extra "money in their pockets"... even if it destroys bitcoin
[2017-03-17 16:36:13] l3f : aethlios: jesus christ
[2017-03-17 16:36:30] l3f : but it is good for everyone
[2017-03-17 16:36:56] aethlios : exchanges want also double fees, volatility etc. so wish for two btc fighting each other.
[2017-03-17 16:37:19] l3f : If BU forks
[2017-03-17 16:37:21] hmmmYea : BitMEX_Sam: in a hard fork, will futures settles to XBT? or XBT + BTU?
[2017-03-17 16:37:27] aethlios : will be like east and west roman empire.
[2017-03-17 16:37:46] l3f : will btc price split as well?
[2017-03-17 16:38:20] sleger : yes, 11 on one side, 53 on the other
[2017-03-17 16:38:35] aethlios : l3f: any btc holder will receive both coins, logic says cummulative value of both will be less than the value of btc before fork.
[2017-03-17 16:38:38] hmmmYea : BitMEX_Sam: it seems like they should settle to the sum of both new coins...
[2017-03-17 16:38:47] Actualiteit : aethlios: so BU will die a quick death after the fork and the original chain will fight for its life for a few years and eventually will die a slow and painful death being backstabbed and managed wrongly over and over again?
[2017-03-17 16:38:59] Actualiteit : sounds entertaining
[2017-03-17 16:39:02] hmmmYea : aethlios: i personally think it will be more
[2017-03-17 16:39:32] hmmmYea : aethlios: if both coins serve a different market and provide utility to different end users, it would be win-win
[2017-03-17 16:40:14] hmmmYea : btc as a reserve currency like gold IRL, and btu currency that you can use to make everyday transactions
[2017-03-17 16:40:44] Actualiteit : hmmmYea: too complicated for 'normal' users, its going to be shit
[2017-03-17 16:41:11] hmmmYea : Actualiteit: i mean long term.... once the chaos is sorted out
[2017-03-17 16:41:29] stanleylee : time up...break or down? = =
[2017-03-17 16:41:34] aethlios : Actualiteit: BU will be the main fork as miners will be 75% of total, but if their software fails could go down to zero after 5-10 years. core will have an army of 25% miners dedicated, can pass SW and slowly regain miners. So maybe stupids dump core to 100 and we can buy cheap. After fork core 100, BU 450. Total 550 (-50% because of hard fork mess)
[2017-03-17 16:41:41] sleger : ".XBT pricing is currently derived from 50% Bitstamp and 50% OKCoin Intl. " <= they would have to change the index to clarify what would happen if bitstamp only lists one for example
[2017-03-17 16:42:08] KyllingLolsson : stanleylee: no idea
[2017-03-17 16:42:13] sleger : aethlios: dude you realize that in your example, BU can attack easily core from time to time just for fun and destroy it ?
[2017-03-17 16:42:32] aethlios : hmmmYea: core adding SW can implement lighting network and have cheap unlimited txs for everyday
[2017-03-17 16:42:52] hmmmYea : sleger: yea. for sure... i think they should... they changed the COIN future to protect against the risk of a monday release
[2017-03-17 16:43:18] sleger : they should clarify, thats for sure, unknown is not good for trading, volume and fees
[2017-03-17 16:43:24] hmmmYea : aethlios: then BTU would go to zero and BTC would have more value than it currently does
[2017-03-17 16:43:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `XMR7D`: sell 9 @ 0.018984
[2017-03-17 16:43:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `XMR7D`: sell 11 @ 0.018967
[2017-03-17 16:43:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `XMR7D`: sell 120 @ 0.018992
[2017-03-17 16:44:01] zy : but it will be a disaster when it happens
[2017-03-17 16:44:01] hmmmYea : sleger: i agree. would prolly be good for us in the short-term, but very bad long-term
[2017-03-17 16:44:09] hmmmYea : for the market as a whole
[2017-03-17 16:44:43] KyllingLolsson : /sentiment
[2017-03-17 16:44:45] aethlios : hmmmYea: yes that's my prediction, core will win because users are with core, but miners want BU. users vote with their usd.
[2017-03-17 16:44:45] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 61.89 / 38.11 Daily : 60.45 / 39.55 Weekly : 53.03 / 46.97 Monthly : 51.31 / 48.69```
[2017-03-17 16:45:22] hmmmYea : zy: yea. just like etf denial... short-term panic that will prolly resolve positively, makes for the best time to long in any market
[2017-03-17 16:45:32] wurstgelee : http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-exchanges-unveil-emergency-hard-fork-contingency-plan/ <- that is what is was referring to yday
[2017-03-17 16:46:00] sleger : repost ! spam !
[2017-03-17 16:46:02] aethlios : sleger: how easy is to successfully attack core?? why eth hasn't destroyed etc?? i think there won't be that hate.
[2017-03-17 16:46:18] sleger : aethlios: you think chinese miners wont try to destroy core ?
[2017-03-17 16:46:31] Sultan Pepper : OMFG bitmex!!!!!
[2017-03-17 16:46:33] wurstgelee : sleger: nah, i already said that this will hapöen beforw it actually happened. ;)
[2017-03-17 16:46:37] Sultan Pepper : admin plz
[2017-03-17 16:47:52] Sultan Pepper : Bitmex: I'm on mobile, and the 5th order slot keeps appearing and disappearing. It's making everything shake so much
[2017-03-17 16:48:00] aethlios : for exchanges to prepare must be serious possibility of a fork
[2017-03-17 16:48:07] Sultan Pepper : Make it stop!
[2017-03-17 16:48:38] Klerni : where is page with list of top100 traders?
[2017-03-17 16:48:52] KyllingLolsson : /sentiment
[2017-03-17 16:48:54] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 60.61 / 39.39 Daily : 60.42 / 39.58 Weekly : 53.01 / 46.99 Monthly : 51.31 / 48.69```
[2017-03-17 16:48:55] aethlios : sleger: i don't have the knowlegde to know how easy is to "destroy core" so can't answer, but will search for that to learn. it is too technical for me.
[2017-03-17 16:49:09] sleger : they only need more hash power to block it
[2017-03-17 16:49:20] sleger : so it doesnt destroy per se but it blocks
[2017-03-17 16:49:46] sleger : i think eth-ers just ignored etc so there was no such attack although chandler guo threatened to do one
[2017-03-17 16:50:41] Klerni : do anyone know page with top100 players on bitmex? :)
[2017-03-17 16:50:58] juster : https://www.bitmex.com/app/leaderboard
[2017-03-17 16:51:03] sleger : but names are faked
[2017-03-17 16:51:34] Klerni : thx
[2017-03-17 16:51:41] aethlios : sleger: there will be two chains, attack i think means to start mining core and gaon above 50% of hash power, then change the code. but this must be very difficult and un ethical, will make them be bad advertisement.
[2017-03-17 16:52:03] sleger : i dont think they care
[2017-03-17 16:52:10] MrRGnome : Klerni: If there are ever two chains you'll get replay attacks for sure.
[2017-03-17 16:52:30] sleger : aethlios: and they can make big money by : shorting, attacking, buying, stop attacking, rinse repeat etc....
[2017-03-17 16:52:35] MrRGnome : I mean @aethlios
[2017-03-17 16:54:56] aethlios : great months ahead.
[2017-03-17 16:55:25] aethlios : big battles on the trading fields
[2017-03-17 16:56:36] aethlios : nice about gold is that can't fork it.
[2017-03-17 16:56:45] stanleylee : /price
[2017-03-17 16:56:48] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1155.20 (15.52%) Bitfinex : 1150.10 (15.01%) The Woodchipper : 1158.15 (15.82%) itBit : 1156.34 (15.63%) Kraken : 1135.00 (13.50%) GDAX : 1154.98 (15.50%) SLQ : ```
[2017-03-17 16:57:29] BitMEX_Greg : ferpozie: To reduce the margin assigned to the position.
[2017-03-17 16:58:06] hmmmYea : sleger: time to buy USDT, before it rallies again
[2017-03-17 16:58:37] sleger : aethlios: actually you can change gold into something else, vice versa
[2017-03-17 16:58:50] sleger : its just prohibitively expensive at this time
[2017-03-17 16:59:33] datboiyuan : if I'm an exchange of course I'd be planning a contingency, that's just sound strategy
[2017-03-17 17:00:02] hmmmYea : BitMEX_Greg: if there is a hard fork will june futes settle to BTU + XBT or just XBT?
[2017-03-17 17:00:03] datboiyuan : I think a lot of the miners run core nodes anyhow and if at any point more hp is direct at core vs btu, post fork, btu dies
[2017-03-17 17:00:14] datboiyuan : there will be no fork
[2017-03-17 17:00:18] KyllingLolsson : /sentiment
[2017-03-17 17:00:21] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 58.19 / 41.81 Daily : 60.45 / 39.55 Weekly : 52.98 / 47.02 Monthly : 51.31 / 48.69```
[2017-03-17 17:00:37] sleger : BitMEX_Greg: Hello, it would be nice if you could prepare a statement regarding bitmex position and the XBT index in case of a btc fork (BU vs core for instance)
[2017-03-17 17:00:43] hmmmYea : +1
[2017-03-17 17:00:54] datboiyuan : don't waste your time greg
[2017-03-17 17:02:05] hmmmYea : datboiyuan: whether it happens or not doesnt matter. some people think it might, and uncertainty about the settlement of a future will hurt volume and open interest
[2017-03-17 17:02:48] datboiyuan : and legitimizing the uncertainty via an official announcement won't ?
[2017-03-17 17:03:01] hmmmYea : datboiyuan: we're past that
[2017-03-17 17:03:04] hmmmYea : http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-exchanges-unveil-emergency-hard-fork-contingency-plan/
[2017-03-17 17:03:53] hmmmYea : unfortunately
[2017-03-17 17:04:17] rapidtrades : HARD FORK BABY
[2017-03-17 17:04:21] rapidtrades : TWICE THE COINZ
[2017-03-17 17:04:24] rapidtrades : HALF THE PRICE
[2017-03-17 17:04:53] rapidtrades : FUK UR LIFE BITCORNERS
[2017-03-17 17:05:40] CapitalGains : I've already got my bids in at $100
[2017-03-17 17:05:46] sleger : ^ thats why settlement index matters a lot in that case
[2017-03-17 17:05:49] rapidtrades : '' the exchanges would list the BU asset under the BTU or XBU tickers in the event of a network split, which they collectively say "may be inevitable".''
[2017-03-17 17:07:10] aethlios : etf possibility fud was a nice plan for whales to unload to noobs above 1200 and now start talking about fork inevitable.
[2017-03-17 17:07:19] aethlios : buy back much cheaper.
[2017-03-17 17:08:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTM17`: sell 60 @ 1175.20
[2017-03-17 17:08:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 5400 @ 1151.32
[2017-03-17 17:08:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 7543 @ 1146.64
[2017-03-17 17:09:27] rapidtrades : sleger: did u sell some june yet
[2017-03-17 17:09:46] sleger : not really
[2017-03-17 17:10:14] rapidtrades : sleger: how much?
[2017-03-17 17:10:25] aethlios : civil war bad thing, hate is huge.
[2017-03-17 17:10:26] sleger : 3490, nothing
[2017-03-17 17:10:43] ubba : wow
[2017-03-17 17:12:43] ubba : last chance to short eth?
[2017-03-17 17:14:20] rapidtrades : funny how noone is talking bout chynoya withdrawals
[2017-03-17 17:14:28] rapidtrades : its now 40+ days after they banned them
[2017-03-17 17:14:48] rapidtrades : ''to implement AML'' lol
[2017-03-17 17:16:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: sell 13 @ 0.037050
[2017-03-17 17:16:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: sell 1 @ 0.037150
[2017-03-17 17:16:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: sell 100 @ 0.037140
[2017-03-17 17:17:30] ubba : choyna?
[2017-03-17 17:17:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: sell 175 @ 0.036330
[2017-03-17 17:17:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: sell 100 @ 0.036480
[2017-03-17 17:17:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: sell 75 @ 0.036510
[2017-03-17 17:17:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: sell 1 @ 0.036430
[2017-03-17 17:17:44] Actualiteit : choyna.
[2017-03-17 17:18:01] ubba : choy na
[2017-03-17 17:18:06] rapidtrades : CNINEYOANA!
[2017-03-17 17:18:19] Actualiteit : Kreeya.
[2017-03-17 17:18:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: sell 28 @ 0.036190
[2017-03-17 17:18:25] juster : rapidtrades: Aren't they active, just on a per person basis. just like any regulated exchange
[2017-03-17 17:18:46] rapidtrades : NO
[2017-03-17 17:18:53] Actualiteit : to take profit or not to take profit
[2017-03-17 17:18:58] Actualiteit : eth is the gift that keeps on giving
[2017-03-17 17:19:47] ubba : you only lose when you sell
[2017-03-17 17:20:05] Actualiteit : no, that would only make my short bigger.
[2017-03-17 17:20:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: sell 44 @ 0.035780
[2017-03-17 17:20:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: sell 50 @ 0.035740
[2017-03-17 17:24:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTM17`: sell 33501 @ 1168.97
[2017-03-17 17:24:17] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: buy 20 @ 0.036560
[2017-03-17 17:24:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: sell 572 @ 0.001629
[2017-03-17 17:24:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 5000 @ 1145.56
[2017-03-17 17:25:32] aguia7 : http://www.tradingview.com/x/G818dz9O
[2017-03-17 17:27:47] Tetsuo : looks like s small dick to me
[2017-03-17 17:28:17] Tetsuo : is this the teeny weener formation
[2017-03-17 17:32:10] etoque : cmon etc
[2017-03-17 17:32:14] etoque : you have enough support
[2017-03-17 17:37:41] aron : what do u guys think about XBT right now
[2017-03-17 17:37:51] aron : 1140 long or short or neither
[2017-03-17 17:38:05] ubba : go long and short
[2017-03-17 17:38:20] thomaskikansha : shorted 1150
[2017-03-17 17:40:07] aethlios : https://www.bitfinex.com/bitcoin_hardfork_statement
[2017-03-17 17:40:22] aethlios : finex posted it now
[2017-03-17 17:40:55] aron : why did you short 1150?
[2017-03-17 17:41:01] aron : it was trading well above 1200
[2017-03-17 17:42:47] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 100 @ 1142.60
[2017-03-17 17:43:21] MrRGnome : aethlios: very nice
[2017-03-17 17:43:41] sleger : that should increase eth price even more !
[2017-03-17 17:44:06] aethlios : ltc is the most similar to btc core (SW soon)
[2017-03-17 17:44:07] MrRGnome : sleger: You think? Seems pretty pro-core to me.
[2017-03-17 17:44:30] aethlios : and only 200 mill. not 4.5 billion
[2017-03-17 17:45:03] jphamer1 : i wonder if people are thinking that if they stock up on bitcoin now they will end uo with free coins when it forks.
[2017-03-17 17:45:19] aethlios : core believers should buy some ltc, if BU dominates, then devs of core can work with LTC.
[2017-03-17 17:45:29] hmmmYea : jphamer1: given that price is declining, i would say no
[2017-03-17 17:45:46] jphamer1 : hmmmYea: until they twig that is
[2017-03-17 17:46:28] aethlios : hmmmYea: buy spot btc, hedge short here, wait fork, after fork you earn free BTU with no price loss
[2017-03-17 17:47:31] sleger : depends wha the index here is !
[2017-03-17 17:47:35] sleger : bitmex needs to clarify
[2017-03-17 17:47:41] hmmmYea : aethlios: depending on what bitmex does.
[2017-03-17 17:47:44] hmmmYea : yea, they do
[2017-03-17 17:47:54] jphamer1 : i think this is why people are selling alts
[2017-03-17 17:48:25] aethlios : hmmmYea: you can short finex. have real btc as margin and finex will add you btc. this way i earned 5000 etc
[2017-03-17 17:49:14] aethlios : sleger: true, but the strategy is valid, need to find the right product.
[2017-03-17 17:50:03] aethlios : also bitmex must ensure us that will deposit to us BTU for our BTC deposited here.
[2017-03-17 17:50:18] hmmmYea : aethlios: is it possible you will have to deliver both coins to your finex short? if you are short a stock and there is a spinoff. you have to deliver both the original share and the spinoff share
[2017-03-17 17:50:34] sleger : aethlios: i doubt we'd get btu for the btc stored here
[2017-03-17 17:50:43] sleger : im surprised they are not answering, admins ?
[2017-03-17 17:50:46] hmmmYea : aethlios: and for the technicality finders, it is more complicated than that IRL...b ut economically that is what happens
[2017-03-17 17:50:53] BitMEX_Sam : We're working on a statement right now
[2017-03-17 17:50:58] aethlios : sleger: why?? who will take our coins??
[2017-03-17 17:51:04] hmmmYea : BitMEX_Sam: can you give us a hint?
[2017-03-17 17:51:09] aethlios : talking about millions of usd.
[2017-03-17 17:51:14] sleger : aethlios: strip fund ?
[2017-03-17 17:51:15] sleger : :D
[2017-03-17 17:51:32] Tetsuo : http://fs5.directupload.net/images/170317/o85w654e.jpg
[2017-03-17 17:51:40] aethlios : otherwise all customers will exit before the fork block.
[2017-03-17 17:51:41] MrRGnome : BitMEX_Sam: You should endorse the standing statement
[2017-03-17 17:51:44] hmmmYea : BitMEX_Sam: jun futures could be woth much much less if it doesnt go to the split
[2017-03-17 17:52:27] aethlios : BitMEX_Sam: don't get hurry, think it well. we have time. also answer if we will receive BTU for our BTC deposited here.
[2017-03-17 17:52:32] hmmmYea : MrRGnome: that doesnt address the relevant question
[2017-03-17 17:54:01] sleger : 2 questions are : deposits get the other branch ? and how index will work ?
[2017-03-17 17:54:15] aethlios : sleger: june dumping
[2017-03-17 17:54:51] hmmmYea : aethlios: if it tracks post fork BTC and BTU is the winner it could be worth nearly zero by jun
[2017-03-17 17:54:52] aethlios : ok fork doesn't mean will happen in june.
[2017-03-17 17:55:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: buy 80 @ 0.037920
[2017-03-17 17:55:08] Tetsuo : can´t wait to trade BTU/ETH in here
[2017-03-17 17:55:12] hmmmYea : aethlios: as long as it happens before jun
[2017-03-17 17:55:17] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: buy 20 @ 0.038130
[2017-03-17 17:55:21] hmmmYea : thats all that matters
[2017-03-17 17:55:32] aethlios : hmmmYea: yes is a future will added put option
[2017-03-17 17:55:58] BitMEX_Sam : https://blog.bitmex.com/a-statement-on-the-possible-bitcoin-unlimited-hard-fork/
[2017-03-17 17:56:20] hmmmYea : wow
[2017-03-17 17:56:26] hmmmYea : the PUT is real!
[2017-03-17 17:57:47] hmmmYea : so if you own BTC.. and short the future.. post fork you would get 1 BTC and 1 BTU... but the future would settle at the value of the BTC only.. so you get 1 BTU for free
[2017-03-17 17:57:50] hmmmYea : right?
[2017-03-17 17:57:58] hmmmYea : BitMEX_Sam: ?
[2017-03-17 17:58:07] sleger : i dont understand that
[2017-03-17 17:58:12] sleger : you will have 1btc and 0 btu
[2017-03-17 17:58:29] hmmmYea : sleger: if i own btc anywhere.. like a cold waller
[2017-03-17 17:58:41] hmmmYea : and i hedge that with a short jun future on bitmex
[2017-03-17 17:58:50] sleger : then its up to your wallet software of course
[2017-03-17 17:58:57] cmwprice : /sentiment
[2017-03-17 17:59:00] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 53.98 / 46.02 Daily : 60.34 / 39.66 Weekly : 52.98 / 47.02 Monthly : 51.32 / 48.68```
[2017-03-17 17:59:08] sleger : but it seems it would settle on the price of btc core ONLY
[2017-03-17 17:59:10] sleger : not the sum
[2017-03-17 17:59:10] hmmmYea : and then fork happens... future goes to btc price... but i will own 1 btc and 1 btu
[2017-03-17 17:59:16] hmmmYea : sleger: yes
[2017-03-17 17:59:44] hmmmYea : sleger: i have two coins in cold storage.. but the future goes to the value of btc only
[2017-03-17 18:00:08] sleger : i dont know why anyone would keep their bitcoins here then, seems weird
[2017-03-17 18:00:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTM17`: sell 500 @ 1153.41
[2017-03-17 18:00:48] hmmmYea : so if BTU goes to 1200 and BTC goes to $1... i win 1154 in the future... but still have 1200 of value in cold storage with my BTU
[2017-03-17 18:01:02] sleger : Which exchanges gave ETC automatically to their customers ? gemini ? coinbase ? polo ? who else ?
[2017-03-17 18:01:06] hmmmYea : does that make sense? im trying to piece it together on the fly
[2017-03-17 18:01:07] KyllingLolsson : Possible to break trough this support??
[2017-03-17 18:01:11] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTM17`: sell 5555 @ 1152.42
[2017-03-17 18:01:27] hmmmYea : sleger: btc on bitmex is inconsequential.. its just the margin on your future
[2017-03-17 18:01:28] aethlios : sleger: who will have our btc?? wallet here will receive the btc, they need to send them to us.
[2017-03-17 18:01:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 6400 @ 1137.75
[2017-03-17 18:01:36] sleger : its not complicated really
[2017-03-17 18:03:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 16 @ 1136.78
[2017-03-17 18:03:51] Tetsuo : 134.sat/B still no confirmation after 5 hours
[2017-03-17 18:03:53] Tetsuo : sad
[2017-03-17 18:04:03] juster : use >200
[2017-03-17 18:04:05] juster : y u so cheap?
[2017-03-17 18:04:09] etoque : etc bounce on strong resistace,going test 0.002 this week maybe now
[2017-03-17 18:05:06] sleger : aethlios: they "should" yes, the announcement doesnt precise that
[2017-03-17 18:05:14] sleger : it tends to indicate the opposite
[2017-03-17 18:05:28] hmmmYea : https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/5zz6cu/important_the_exchange_announcement_is_indicating/
[2017-03-17 18:05:57] REKT : :roller_coaster: :chart_with_downwards_trend: :japanese_goblin:
[2017-03-17 18:05:57] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 1000 @ 1133.98
[2017-03-17 18:06:32] thomaskikansha : omg