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<< >> English 中文 Русский 한국어 日本語 Español Français [2017-03-17 04:04:48] billyboy402 : BitMEX_John: I have sent email and both sam and greg this is normal , it it NOT , you are margin calling ppl at fairprice = WHICH IS ABOVE THE INDEX , and the last week you been magin calling ppl bellow index [2017-03-17 04:06:10] BitMEX_John : billyboy402: I'm sorry to hear you aren't satisfied with how the fair price method works [2017-03-17 04:06:43] BitMEX_John : billyboy402: if you have any specific feedback on ways we could improve the fair price method please let me know and I will pass them onto the team [2017-03-17 04:06:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: sell 4 @ 0.043090 [2017-03-17 04:07:36] billyboy402 : there was 4% different from the fairprice to the index rate , it would be better if you just use last price , but not allow trade withing 1% of index [2017-03-17 04:07:42] thxforyourbtc! : sleger: u short at 80 again on dash? Seems strong res [2017-03-17 04:08:48] BitMEX_John : billyboy402: one of the biggest strengths of the fair price method is that during large price swings we don't unnecessarily liquidate clients [2017-03-17 04:09:15] BitMEX_John : billyboy402: if we liquidate based on last price there will be lots of unnecessary liquidations [2017-03-17 04:10:01] ubba : dumping again? [2017-03-17 04:10:01] billyboy402 : BitMEX_John: not really , you can force the price of fairrate up just by placing a limit order , then that could force a liquidation [2017-03-17 04:10:13] petertheil : /price [2017-03-17 04:10:16] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1116.67 (-0.52%) Bitfinex : 1113.40 (-0.60%) The Woodchipper : 1138.00 (-0.18%) itBit : 1118.00 (-0.14%) Kraken : 1108.20 (-0.71%) GDAX : 1093.31 (-2.39%) SLQ : 19 mins``` [2017-03-17 04:10:53] billyboy402 : BitMEX_John: what like now , not margin call ppl at 0.081 while index is 0.080 [2017-03-17 04:11:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 8000 @ 1125.52 [2017-03-17 04:11:12] shiroe : i lost 60% capital today, got back 80%. weird AF. [2017-03-17 04:11:25] BitMEX_John : billyboy402: for contracts with less liquidity that is sometimes the case, but overall we beleive that the fair price method helps traders more often that it hinders them [2017-03-17 04:11:30] etoque : shiroe: great,tomorrow return in profit [2017-03-17 04:11:32] micmix : billyboy402: fair price is not that easy to manipulate with limit orders [2017-03-17 04:11:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: sell 200 @ 0.041910 [2017-03-17 04:11:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: sell 20 @ 0.041980 [2017-03-17 04:12:07] ubba : eth dumping too? [2017-03-17 04:12:15] billyboy402 : micmix: no it easy af , just plave a large limit order and it move , you can remove it one it get close [2017-03-17 04:12:17] shiroe : etoque: Yes. Thanks. [2017-03-17 04:13:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `DASH7D`: buy 60 @ 0.082114 [2017-03-17 04:13:19] rapidgains : lol [2017-03-17 04:13:20] billyboy402 : BitMEX_John: just liqudate them on index price . or a max -/+ 1% [2017-03-17 04:13:46] micmix : billyboy402: it doesn't move right away, and it still follows index, only fair basis adjusts (slowly) [2017-03-17 04:14:04] BitMEX_John : billyboy402: I will pass your feedback onto the team, but at this time fair price has the support of most clients [2017-03-17 04:14:48] micmix : the simple fact is: 25x leverage is too much for alts [2017-03-17 04:15:06] billyboy402 : micmix: have you been watching dash all week , i email greg with a screen shot that fairrate was 6.48% below the index because there was no limit buy order , [2017-03-17 04:15:17] -_- : Dash up up up [2017-03-17 04:15:55] micmix : billyboy402: +-10% of index is normal when dash doubles in a day [2017-03-17 04:16:28] billyboy402 : i am talking about fairrate VS index , not trade price vs index . [2017-03-17 04:17:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `DASH7D`: buy 194 @ 0.082787 [2017-03-17 04:17:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `DASH7D`: buy 38 @ 0.083160 [2017-03-17 04:17:33] BitMEX_John : billyboy402: as liquidity increases the marl price trades much tighter to the index and market price [2017-03-17 04:17:35] REKT : Liquidated short on `DASH7D`: buy 434 @ 0.083483 [2017-03-17 04:17:35] REKT : Liquidated short on `DASH7D`: buy 107 @ 0.083532 [2017-03-17 04:17:35] REKT : Liquidated short on `DASH7D`: buy 2 @ 0.083406 [2017-03-17 04:17:46] micmix : I'm talking about fair price. If the price triples in a week, what do you think futures basis rate should be? without variable fair price no MM would post orders and you will not be able to trade [2017-03-17 04:18:52] REKT : Liquidated short on `DASH7D`: buy 1 @ 0.083946 [2017-03-17 04:18:52] REKT : Liquidated short on `DASH7D`: buy 100 @ 0.083902 [2017-03-17 04:19:25] billyboy402 : micmix: if the index is 100 , and last price is 110 .... ok the fair price should be somewear between 100 and 110 right ...... t it is shiht when it 120 ot 90 .... and that what been happing [2017-03-17 04:19:35] REKT : Liquidated short on `DASH7D`: buy 100 @ 0.084270 [2017-03-17 04:19:35] REKT : Liquidated short on `DASH7D`: buy 4 @ 0.084199 [2017-03-17 04:20:14] billyboy402 : micmix: i open a poistion ,. got liqudated but still made profit , because the limit that i close into whewre still higher then my entry [2017-03-17 04:20:35] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: buy 28 @ 0.043000 [2017-03-17 04:20:56] etoque : dash is so ugly here lol [2017-03-17 04:21:09] etoque : you can't trade it lol [2017-03-17 04:21:15] etoque : ahh now I see order lol [2017-03-17 04:21:35] billyboy402 : etoque: i think you are correct , the mark price is fucking user who get margin call [2017-03-17 04:22:30] billyboy402 : the mark price is working alot better on eth because there more limit order , [2017-03-17 04:23:02] etoque : there's more people into a dead town than bitmex dash market [2017-03-17 04:23:52] billyboy402 : there was 1400 BTC in open value 1 hour ago , now there are 486 . that mean close to 300btc been margin called [2017-03-17 04:29:10] etoque : why 10 dollar difference with margin price [2017-03-17 04:29:49] daz : @bitmex_john - is the 'index price' / reference exchnage used for the stop price also used for the 'limit price' [2017-03-17 04:29:49] etoque : ugh [2017-03-17 04:30:53] finnagetdooped : lol okay no settlement buy up today boys. read up on that there settlement guide [2017-03-17 04:31:01] BitMEX_John : daz: when you set your stop order you can choose for it to be triggered by either the 'last', 'mark' or 'index' it is yoru choice :) [2017-03-17 04:31:27] BitMEX_John : daz: under 'Place Order' there is a drop down next to 'Trigger' where you set it [2017-03-17 04:31:47] daz : yeah... get that ... but the reference exchange is just for the trigger... not the limit price itself (?) [2017-03-17 04:32:30] petertheil : setting a few 750 and 600 btc buys lol [2017-03-17 04:32:34] BitMEX_John : daz: right yes, that is just for the trigger, the limit price on a stop is like placing a limit order anywhere else, its the price you would like your trade to execute at [2017-03-17 04:32:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `XMR7D`: sell 68 @ 0.020669 [2017-03-17 04:33:03] BitMEX_John : daz: so if you are buying it is the highest price you are willing to go and if you are selling it is the lowest price [2017-03-17 04:33:20] BitMEX_John : daz: you can read more about order types here if you are interested https://www.bitmex.com/app/orderTypeFAQ [2017-03-17 04:33:28] daz : yes ... thanks, just checking I understood correctly... [2017-03-17 04:33:55] BitMEX_John : daz: no worries, happy to help :) [2017-03-17 04:34:25] KingTuna : BitMEX_John: Holding a contract all the way to settlement means that you will be given the settlement market price? [2017-03-17 04:34:59] BitMEX_John : KingTuna: that's correct, usually it is a 30 minute TWAP of the index price for a given contract [2017-03-17 04:35:18] BitMEX_John : KingTuna: you can find specific details in the contract guide for the contract you are trading [2017-03-17 04:35:18] KingTuna : Thanks ! [2017-03-17 04:35:38] BitMEX_John : KingTuna: also the fee charged is 0.0500% [2017-03-17 04:36:03] BitMEX_John : KingTuna: unless you [2017-03-17 04:36:32] BitMEX_John : KingTuna: *are trading ZEC than is it 0.25% [2017-03-17 04:37:01] finnagetdooped : TWAP? [2017-03-17 04:37:03] KingTuna : BitMEX_John: All good then. Thank u :) [2017-03-17 04:37:11] finnagetdooped : oh nevermind [2017-03-17 04:37:21] BitMEX_John : finnagetdooped: time weighted average price :) [2017-03-17 04:37:33] etoque : lol real price going down margin price going up wtf [2017-03-17 04:37:38] finnagetdooped : yeah just scrolled over it thank you again [2017-03-17 04:37:43] etoque : stop scamming me lol [2017-03-17 04:37:53] etoque : ahh down now [2017-03-17 04:39:40] Gr33d : /price [2017-03-17 04:39:43] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1127.81 (1.00%) Bitfinex : 1123.80 (0.93%) The Woodchipper : 1147.01 (0.79%) itBit : 1132.46 (1.29%) Kraken : 1107.00 (-0.11%) GDAX : 1120.50 (2.49%) SLQ : 29 mins``` [2017-03-17 04:39:56] Gr33d : woodchipper lel [2017-03-17 04:40:00] etoque : going retest 1100 [2017-03-17 04:40:12] Gr33d : down we go bois [2017-03-17 04:41:03] Gr33d : /sentiment [2017-03-17 04:41:05] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 54.52 / 45.48 Daily : 61.52 / 38.49 Weekly : 52.25 / 47.75 Monthly : 51.10 / 48.90``` [2017-03-17 04:41:19] Rado : ETH i stupendous [2017-03-17 04:41:22] Rado : crazy [2017-03-17 04:41:40] Rado : did sleger take some profits on his position? [2017-03-17 04:42:55] arbitrage101 : think he said he has sell order every 0.2 up [2017-03-17 04:43:08] arbitrage101 : i am keeping my eth long [2017-03-17 04:43:23] arbitrage101 : think it has still have room to move up [2017-03-17 04:43:42] etoque : as long btc keep going eth [2017-03-17 04:43:46] etoque : down* [2017-03-17 04:43:52] arbitrage101 : eth is nothing compare to dash for the last couple week [2017-03-17 04:44:02] arbitrage101 : still, wont short it [2017-03-17 04:44:48] rapidtrades : let it fall autists! [2017-03-17 04:45:00] arbitrage101 : go ahead [2017-03-17 04:45:03] arbitrage101 : talk it down [2017-03-17 04:45:11] arbitrage101 : like to close some short [2017-03-17 04:46:04] foobar : why is the swap price here like $50 > than the price on poloniex? [2017-03-17 04:46:22] arbitrage101 : foobar: which one [2017-03-17 04:46:30] foobar : btcusd [2017-03-17 04:46:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: sell 3 @ 0.042270 [2017-03-17 04:46:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: sell 8 @ 0.042110 [2017-03-17 04:47:22] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: buy 38 @ 0.042970 [2017-03-17 04:48:21] Gr33d : foobar: Polo doesn't trade btcusd [2017-03-17 04:48:48] foobar : https://poloniex.com/exchange#usdt_btc [2017-03-17 04:49:02] shiroe : /price [2017-03-17 04:49:06] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1132.18 (0.39%) Bitfinex : 1128.70 (0.44%) The Woodchipper : 1146.75 (-0.02%) itBit : 1131.76 (-0.06%) Kraken : 1113.95 (0.63%) GDAX : 1126.12 (0.50%) SLQ : 9 mins``` [2017-03-17 04:50:15] shiroe : Back to 1150? [2017-03-17 04:51:12] Gr33d : foobar: usdt lel [2017-03-17 04:56:13] daz : @bitmex_john... sorry john, one more question, I couldn't quite understand it from the manual. If I setup a 'take profit market' order with index trigger, for (say) 1000 (quantity) at trigger price 2000, that would market buy 1000 at whatever price bitmex exchange was when the reference exchange price was 2000 - correct? [2017-03-17 04:56:56] rms : well that gdax to poloniex arbitrage was tasty [2017-03-17 04:57:16] rms : guess the limits on poloniex prevent the market from actually correcting [2017-03-17 04:59:45] BitMEX_John : daz: that's correct, it will execute a market order at the time of triggering [2017-03-17 05:00:02] daz : grand... ta :) [2017-03-17 05:00:15] BitMEX_John : daz: and if you set the trigger to 'index' then it will go off according to the last price at the reference exchanges [2017-03-17 05:00:37] etoque : lol wtf those spread [2017-03-17 05:01:06] daz : thank you... clear [2017-03-17 05:01:34] foobar : BitMEX_John: did something just happen with the websocket connection [2017-03-17 05:01:36] foobar : i keep getting [2017-03-17 05:01:42] foobar : primus::server::close [2017-03-17 05:01:44] etoque : look 1150 might come... [2017-03-17 05:02:08] BitMEX_John : foobar: I will have to check with another member of the team one moment :) [2017-03-17 05:05:01] BitMEX_Wally : foobar: Are you seeing this in your browser? For your foobar account? [2017-03-17 05:05:28] DangerandPlay : How long before Dash is dashed against the rocks? [2017-03-17 05:05:38] foobar : no, i am seeing this in my python code [2017-03-17 05:05:44] foobar : i am using python3 and asyncio [2017-03-17 05:05:58] foobar : with aiohttp [2017-03-17 05:06:37] BitMEX_Wally : foobar: I see 5 connections at once, and then they disconnect at once. [2017-03-17 05:07:00] foobar : yea, my code keeps trying to reconnect..then i kill my app [2017-03-17 05:07:02] foobar : i was just messing with it [2017-03-17 05:07:18] foobar : ERROR:asyncio:Unclosed response client_response: <ClientResponse(wss://www.bitmex.com/realtime) [101 Switching Protocols]> [2017-03-17 05:08:53] BitMEX_Wally : foobar: Usually 'primus::server::close' is sent after we send you another error, like invalid auth [2017-03-17 05:08:59] BitMEX_Wally : Try using wscat to debug [2017-03-17 05:09:07] foobar : let me try again while commenting out my reconnect logic [2017-03-17 05:09:15] foobar : this literally just started happening after working fine for a while [2017-03-17 05:09:36] rms : ...any tips for that arbitrage tip? [2017-03-17 05:09:49] foobar : wtf..now it seems to be working ok [2017-03-17 05:09:54] rms : someone just made like 3 or 5 btc there [2017-03-17 05:10:18] rms : i take tips. 1P4nF1vQuxfVeLLpYkdE5uEgdSiZRGa2bq thank you [2017-03-17 05:10:26] BitMEX_Wally : foobar: Are you using api-expires or api-nonce? [2017-03-17 05:10:41] foobar : api-expires [2017-03-17 05:11:23] degen : someone short eth with me [2017-03-17 05:11:41] etoque : shit [2017-03-17 05:12:01] rms : dumb to short eth when gdax is 8% ahead [2017-03-17 05:12:03] etoque : just lose 50 dollar because bitmex trader decide to move price 10 dollars when everywhere else its stable [2017-03-17 05:12:06] foobar : BitMEX_Wally: i am going to assume that it is something i am doing wrong [2017-03-17 05:12:12] foobar : let me try to mess with it a bit more [2017-03-17 05:12:23] rms : they should put gdax on the eth index here [2017-03-17 05:14:03] foobar : BitMEX_Wally: this issue has seemed to resolve itself without code change on my side. not sure what happened [2017-03-17 05:14:40] BitMEX_Wally : foobar: If you see it again try and log all the messages sent and received and email support@bitmex.com and our CTO can help [2017-03-17 05:14:40] Gr33d : /price [2017-03-17 05:14:43] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1124.92 (-0.64%) Bitfinex : 1127.40 (-0.12%) The Woodchipper : 1143.00 (-0.33%) itBit : 1128.34 (-0.30%) Kraken : 1120.17 (0.56%) GDAX : 1120.00 (-0.54%) SLQ : 25 mins``` [2017-03-17 05:15:24] foobar : BitMEX_Wally: will do, thanks for your help [2017-03-17 05:23:51] germanjew : if I have an open position for say 1500 long XBTUSD and a trailing stop for 3000 to go short gets triggered, do I have to have enough margin available for 4500 contracts? [2017-03-17 05:29:58] 5bg : Longs cancel shorts here. So you'd be 1500 short only [2017-03-17 05:31:21] Gr33d : /price [2017-03-17 05:31:24] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1135.00 (0.90%) Bitfinex : 1137.00 (0.85%) The Woodchipper : 1143.98 (0.09%) itBit : 1141.00 (1.12%) Kraken : 1133.48 (1.19%) GDAX : 1130.40 (0.93%) SLQ : 16 mins``` [2017-03-17 05:32:58] klernil : look at eth price, still growing... we are staying [2017-03-17 05:32:59] klernil : https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/ethereum/#markets [2017-03-17 05:33:07] klernil : 0.04429150 BTC [2017-03-17 05:33:13] klernil : wow [2017-03-17 05:33:15] klernil : :) [2017-03-17 05:35:12] germanjew : Yes, that is what should have happened @ longs that cancels shorts, however the order got rejected due to insufficient funds [2017-03-17 05:35:20] germanjew : which doesn't make sense [2017-03-17 05:36:34] germanjew : the 3000 short order got rejected* [2017-03-17 05:40:34] rapidtrades : lol @ether still pumping [2017-03-17 05:41:10] rapidtrades : weekly chart looks absolutely retardedd [2017-03-17 05:41:19] rapidtrades : RETARD-ED [2017-03-17 05:41:25] rapidtrades : RETAR-DED [2017-03-17 05:42:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: buy 34 @ 0.044170 [2017-03-17 05:44:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: buy 2 @ 0.044440 [2017-03-17 05:46:22] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: buy 20 @ 0.044590 [2017-03-17 05:46:35] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: buy 340 @ 0.044910 [2017-03-17 05:47:52] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: buy 140 @ 0.044940 [2017-03-17 05:47:52] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: buy 343 @ 0.045140 [2017-03-17 05:47:52] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: buy 120 @ 0.044950 [2017-03-17 05:47:52] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: buy 256 @ 0.044970 [2017-03-17 05:48:02] Heyya : wew people still trying to short eth [2017-03-17 05:48:04] Heyya : good job [2017-03-17 05:51:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: buy 50 @ 0.045440 [2017-03-17 05:53:59] Farzad : dump traders go against market trend [2017-03-17 05:54:02] Farzad : :D [2017-03-17 05:54:15] moonandgloom : you have to admire the balls of these eth shorters right now [2017-03-17 05:55:01] Farzad : I think they have extra balls instead of brain :D [2017-03-17 05:55:53] traderMOM : hey guys quick question [2017-03-17 05:56:16] traderMOM : does ETH7D positions close today at 5PM GMT automatically? [2017-03-17 05:56:26] Farzad : traderMOM: yes [2017-03-17 05:57:09] Farzad : although I am not sure if it is 17 GMT [2017-03-17 05:57:29] Farzad : I think 12 GMT [2017-03-17 05:57:30] traderMOM : ah. Doesn't that lead to a price drop? Sorry. Noob. [2017-03-17 05:58:15] Farzad : traderMOM: no, why should it ? [2017-03-17 06:00:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: sell 10 @ 0.043910 [2017-03-17 06:00:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: sell 50 @ 0.044370 [2017-03-17 06:00:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: sell 3 @ 0.043310 [2017-03-17 06:00:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: sell 1100 @ 0.043220 [2017-03-17 06:00:34] Farzad : omg 1100 ETH [2017-03-17 06:00:53] Farzad : REKT so hard :D [2017-03-17 06:01:11] Farzad : thats 55K gone [2017-03-17 06:01:52] ThruTheFloor : Damn, I buy eth and that's when the bubble decides to pop [2017-03-17 06:01:54] ThruTheFloor : Fantastic [2017-03-17 06:02:57] klernil : still cool difference in price [2017-03-17 06:02:58] klernil : 0.04542800 [2017-03-17 06:03:00] klernil : :) [2017-03-17 06:03:38] rapidgains : lol [2017-03-17 06:04:52] Farzad : nice discount here [2017-03-17 06:04:55] traderMOM : Farzad: Closing a lot of positions at the same time would lead to unnaturally amplifying the dominant trend at that time, be it short or long eth? [2017-03-17 06:05:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `DASH7D`: sell 24 @ 0.079781 [2017-03-17 06:07:17] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: buy 6 @ 0.043520 [2017-03-17 06:09:10] j8 : traderMOM: there are the same number of long and short positions, they get closed against eachother. then those people can enter positions on the next contract, and the next one might open at a premium in an uptrend [2017-03-17 06:09:17] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: buy 46 @ 0.044510 [2017-03-17 06:09:23] OpportunityCost : @Farzad Where does the 55k go? [2017-03-17 06:09:57] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 2000 @ 1133.00 [2017-03-17 06:10:20] Farzad : OpportunityCost: well, it was 55K worth of ETH, it was probably a stupid 100x margin trade, trader only lost something like 500-600 dollars [2017-03-17 06:10:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `DASH7D`: sell 111 @ 0.079156 [2017-03-17 06:10:40] OpportunityCost : :-) [2017-03-17 06:11:25] Farzad : OpportunityCost: it goes to market makers and other traders who had traded against him, when he opened his trade [2017-03-17 06:13:08] j8 : and bitmex made around $27 [2017-03-17 06:14:58] traderMOM : j8: aite. makes sense. This is what I was wondering myself. [2017-03-17 06:15:55] traderMOM : I opened a small long position. Made nice little profit but I still expect ETH to go up. Should I close position before the 5PM today or let the contracts get settled automatically at that time? [2017-03-17 06:17:07] j8 : it's up to you really [2017-03-17 06:18:13] traderMOM : j8: Do I lose something cause of the automatic settlement? That's really what I'm wondering. [2017-03-17 06:18:53] j8 : just a 0.05% settlement fee. similar to one trade [2017-03-17 06:19:12] traderMOM : Aite cool. Thanks a lot [2017-03-17 06:19:39] j8 : no problem [2017-03-17 06:19:52] l3f : Wow btc pissing blood again [2017-03-17 06:19:55] l3f : Nobody saw this coming [2017-03-17 06:20:33] Tetsuo : why is this happening????? [2017-03-17 06:20:58] l3f : How could this happen??? [2017-03-17 06:21:09] l3f : it is the the will of the god bear rapidshorts [2017-03-17 06:21:14] traderMOM : l3f: This was a long time coming [2017-03-17 06:21:35] l3f : His word will lead us to the 800s we deserve [2017-03-17 06:21:57] laisee : Its the dump bitcoin had to have [2017-03-17 06:22:09] Tetsuo : rapidtrades: stop crashin the market! [2017-03-17 06:22:12] OpportunityCost : It is called the "flippening". I am in the tech. We are moving away from BTC and into other coins, mostly ETH. The other coins have many advantages. [2017-03-17 06:22:15] daz : ichimoku... daily moving average is 1080 ... top of cloud 960 ... no biggie... price just coming home for a visit... [2017-03-17 06:22:20] l3f : It needs to burn and fall so it can rise from the ashes [2017-03-17 06:23:12] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 2000 @ 1125.18 [2017-03-17 06:23:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 444 @ 1123.73 [2017-03-17 06:23:32] etoque : its done btc [2017-03-17 06:23:39] mdsmm : wwwooooowwww [2017-03-17 06:23:40] laisee : Thwre's a new kid in town [2017-03-17 06:23:43] mdsmm : fuck hahahha [2017-03-17 06:23:47] traderMOM : l3f: lol poetic. Would love that. [2017-03-17 06:24:05] mdsmm : I'm fucked [2017-03-17 06:24:11] mdsmm : hahaha [2017-03-17 06:24:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 13642 @ 1123.23 [2017-03-17 06:24:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 217259 @ 1123.79 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire: [2017-03-17 06:24:26] mdsmm : did not close my position, loool, rookie mistake [2017-03-17 06:24:37] mdsmm : got rekt [2017-03-17 06:24:41] traderMOM : Bitcoin is the first love child, no matter what you say. It's just that it didn't get good care growing up... :/ [2017-03-17 06:25:13] mdsmm : /sentiment [2017-03-17 06:25:16] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 61.20 / 38.80 Daily : 61.51 / 38.49 Weekly : 52.31 / 47.69 Monthly : 51.14 / 48.87``` [2017-03-17 06:37:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: buy 1 @ 0.044790 [2017-03-17 06:41:01] etoque : its gonna crush [2017-03-17 06:41:09] etoque : i wonder if we gonna pass though 1000 [2017-03-17 06:41:33] ThruTheFloor : We're gonna hit 800 just so rapid can have his day [2017-03-17 06:43:06] etoque : once 1100 will be broken game will start for real [2017-03-17 06:43:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: buy 6 @ 0.045630 [2017-03-17 06:43:26] RoftheN : Where is hte top [2017-03-17 06:43:41] etoque : eth ? [2017-03-17 06:43:43] rms : looks like settlement shenanigans to me [2017-03-17 06:44:01] ThruTheFloor : What happens on settlement? [2017-03-17 06:44:31] BitMEX_John : ThruTheFloor: all positions on a given contract are closed [2017-03-17 06:44:35] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: buy 43 @ 0.045840 [2017-03-17 06:44:41] etoque : in 5 hours right [2017-03-17 06:44:45] rms : okc weekly settles soon [2017-03-17 06:44:45] BitMEX_John : ThruTheFloor: the settlement price is a 30 minute TWAP of the index price [2017-03-17 06:44:46] rms : http://getjumbucks.com/settlement/ [2017-03-17 06:45:08] rapidtrades : time for some OKC shenanigans! [2017-03-17 06:45:18] BitMEX_John : etoque: weeklies are settling in 5 hours that's correct [2017-03-17 06:45:29] etoque : contract every 7 day are closed? [2017-03-17 06:45:53] etoque : or this is monthly [2017-03-17 06:45:53] rapidtrades : yeah that's bullshit [2017-03-17 06:45:54] ThruTheFloor : I don't get it, it's like forced ADL, right? So what's the point? [2017-03-17 06:46:17] rapidtrades : they're 7 day futures contracts [2017-03-17 06:46:23] rapidtrades : whats so unclear [2017-03-17 06:46:53] BitMEX_John : ThruTheFloor: the purpose is to bind the contract to the index [2017-03-17 06:47:16] BitMEX_John : ThruTheFloor: you are free to open a position with the new weekly straight after settlement [2017-03-17 06:47:45] rapidtrades : so many newbs here [2017-03-17 06:48:04] l3f : rapidtrades: It is time to purge [2017-03-17 06:48:12] etoque : its running to 1100 [2017-03-17 06:48:15] BitMEX_John : ThruTheFloor: furthermore we will launch the XBT quarterly contract for June later today as well so you can roll over quarterly futures positions prior to the settlement [2017-03-17 06:48:20] daz : blue line 1080... top of cloud 960 ... https://www.coinigy.com/s/i/58cb8623 [2017-03-17 06:48:30] ThruTheFloor : That part makes sense, what I don't understand is why everyone makes a big deal of it. It sounds like a non-event [2017-03-17 06:48:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 2000 @ 1117.89 [2017-03-17 06:48:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 213000 @ 1117.41 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire: [2017-03-17 06:48:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 1350 @ 1118.80 [2017-03-17 06:48:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 177880 @ 1115.68 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished: [2017-03-17 06:48:40] rapidtrades : woot! new qauterly! [2017-03-17 06:49:15] rapidtrades : longs so levered lol [2017-03-17 06:49:18] rapidtrades : die u sobs die [2017-03-17 06:49:31] l3f : rapidtrades: is this the most fun you had so far? [2017-03-17 06:50:00] etoque : lol [2017-03-17 06:50:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: buy 75 @ 0.046350 [2017-03-17 06:50:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `ZECH17`: sell 20 @ 0.043200 [2017-03-17 06:50:12] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 1 @ 1114.71 :punch: :whale: [2017-03-17 06:50:12] REKT : Next stop - goblin town! [2017-03-17 06:50:12] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 8000 @ 1115.32 [2017-03-17 06:50:26] etoque : so what [2017-03-17 06:50:35] etoque : btc around 950 - 1080 possible [2017-03-17 06:50:39] etoque : ? [2017-03-17 06:51:37] etoque : a little 500 coin to dump on finex and its done for btc [2017-03-17 06:51:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 49800 @ 1107.58 [2017-03-17 06:51:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 32 @ 1107.36 [2017-03-17 06:52:01] OpportunityCost : Chinese mining pools will move to ETC [2017-03-17 06:52:34] l3f : RAPIDTRADES! [2017-03-17 06:52:39] l3f : LOOK AT WHAT YOU'VE DONE [2017-03-17 06:52:52] etoque : 1102 [2017-03-17 06:52:54] l3f : Look at all the death and destruction you caused [2017-03-17 06:53:03] l3f : Are you happy with yourself now? [2017-03-17 06:53:30] rapidtrades : YES [2017-03-17 06:53:30] hexo : btc going down, rapidly [2017-03-17 06:53:30] etoque : watch out the dump here [2017-03-17 06:53:48] Heyya : closed my short yesterday, fugg [2017-03-17 06:53:49] etoque : rampageee son [2017-03-17 06:53:57] etoque : lets bear out [2017-03-17 06:54:04] OpportunityCost : I moved 90% of my BTC to coinbase and sold it last night. [2017-03-17 06:54:05] freact : I'm scared. Can feel that rekt coming [2017-03-17 06:54:07] etoque : bitstamp crashing [2017-03-17 06:54:16] etoque : finx fallow [2017-03-17 06:54:38] l3f : 1100 rapidly appraoching [2017-03-17 06:54:47] etoque : its now [2017-03-17 06:54:56] etoque : order get destroy lol [2017-03-17 06:55:11] etoque : bitstamp break 1100 down [2017-03-17 06:55:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 2000 @ 1103.51 [2017-03-17 06:55:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 20000 @ 1099.43 [2017-03-17 06:55:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 30000 @ 1099.70 [2017-03-17 06:55:42] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 175 @ 1102.75 [2017-03-17 06:55:42] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 3500 @ 1100.72 [2017-03-17 06:55:42] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 8950 @ 1101.00 [2017-03-17 06:55:42] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 21000 @ 1101.68 [2017-03-17 06:55:42] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 300 @ 1101.69 [2017-03-17 06:55:46] etoque : ciao btc [2017-03-17 06:55:57] Heyya : holy shit [2017-03-17 06:55:58] ThruTheFloor : Ouch [2017-03-17 06:56:07] l3f : Dead [2017-03-17 06:56:14] l3f : ThruTheFloor: Did you buy the dip yesterday? [2017-03-17 06:56:16] smokim87 : alot of ppl lost alot of cash today with btc longs [2017-03-17 06:56:21] l3f : Listened to the Ugly_Old_Goat? [2017-03-17 06:56:36] etoque : 1050 coming ? [2017-03-17 06:56:37] KingTuna : Ah Glad I put in a short from 1227 [2017-03-17 06:56:43] etoque : at this point 1000 will come fast maybe [2017-03-17 06:56:58] Freewizard : Where is the bottom? [2017-03-17 06:57:04] etoque : there's none [2017-03-17 06:57:08] rapidtrades : maybe if dip buyers capitulate [2017-03-17 06:57:11] etoque : welcome to crypto [2017-03-17 06:57:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 296711 @ 1088.75 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire: [2017-03-17 06:57:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 3000 @ 1088.95 [2017-03-17 06:57:25] Freewizard : Damn [2017-03-17 06:57:26] Heyya : gimme back my short from 1209 ;[ [2017-03-17 06:57:28] Freewizard : 30k [2017-03-17 06:57:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBCH17`: sell 800 @ 7510.1 [2017-03-17 06:57:39] Rado : People selling BTC to get on the ALTs train [2017-03-17 06:57:45] Freewizard : this is fucked up [2017-03-17 06:57:58] Rado : too bad that most of them will be buying tops [2017-03-17 06:58:10] ThruTheFloor : lol this is awesome [2017-03-17 06:58:32] Freewizard : This is fucked up [2017-03-17 06:59:04] Freewizard : Someone should come buy these coins [2017-03-17 06:59:12] etoque : reverse now [2017-03-17 06:59:35] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 6505 @ 1101.92 [2017-03-17 06:59:48] Rado : rapidtrades: your position better now? [2017-03-17 07:00:00] rapidtrades : MMS on alts too good, can't find any arbs [2017-03-17 07:00:14] freact : okay so quick q before I get wrecked at the next drop: [2017-03-17 07:00:27] Rado : Yeah I noticed that as well [2017-03-17 07:00:33] Freewizard : You should get out with what you have [2017-03-17 07:00:37] freact : will maxing my leverage right before minimise my actual losses? [2017-03-17 07:00:43] etoque : ok just see yuuge resistance at 1060 [2017-03-17 07:00:48] Freewizard : before you bankrupt 35BTC [2017-03-17 07:01:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 3500 @ 1104.36 [2017-03-17 07:01:27] rapidtrades : freact: no that will just bring ur execution price higher [2017-03-17 07:02:09] freact : rapidtrades: hmm okay. I just thought since it would remove margin from the position. if it was about to be rekt anyways [2017-03-17 07:02:14] rapidtrades : u can save some $$$ if u exit right before the execution price is hit, this way u will save the maintenance margin [2017-03-17 07:02:30] freact : ahh okay [2017-03-17 07:03:11] aethlios : who is buying the dip??? [2017-03-17 07:03:34] ThruTheFloor : aethlios: 25x long, you? [2017-03-17 07:03:38] Tetsuo : aethlios: closed some shorts @ 1080 [2017-03-17 07:03:42] Actualiteit : looks like a solid downtrend instead of a dip [2017-03-17 07:03:43] rapidtrades : the same ppl who've been buying all year [2017-03-17 07:04:07] rapidtrades : now they'll slowly bleed away their gains [2017-03-17 07:04:26] aethlios : ThruTheFloor: liquidation hunder, sell 10-15 above, usually liquidations are small bottoms [2017-03-17 07:04:52] Tetsuo : rapidtrades: well it isn´t that slow [2017-03-17 07:04:53] rapidtrades : Tetsuo: u think low is in before settlement? [2017-03-17 07:05:16] Tetsuo : rapidtrades: short mid-term term local bottom , yeah [2017-03-17 07:05:21] aethlios : if this continues and eth half btc market cap, then panic will hit the market. [2017-03-17 07:05:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: sell 2 @ 0.045880 [2017-03-17 07:05:39] Tetsuo : i think they wan´t to release some hopium to get huge premium on neq quarterlys to crash em hard again in a few days [2017-03-17 07:05:50] Tetsuo : *next [2017-03-17 07:05:56] etoque : damn i love bitrex [2017-03-17 07:06:01] etoque : ez money [2017-03-17 07:06:08] rapidtrades : hmmm hope ur wrong tetsuo [2017-03-17 07:06:13] aethlios : i will buy btc at the fork, always wait for blood. [2017-03-17 07:06:13] etoque : uhm bitmex [2017-03-17 07:06:27] etoque : when the fork ? [2017-03-17 07:06:54] aethlios : Tetsuo: 30 usd quarterlies much premium to roll over hedges [2017-03-17 07:06:55] Sinterklaas : what the fuck? why is all btc market @1080 and here @1111 [2017-03-17 07:07:03] aethlios : short 1140 rebound [2017-03-17 07:07:19] freact : /price [2017-03-17 07:07:24] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1107.81 (-2.40%) Bitfinex : 1111.00 (-2.29%) The Woodchipper : 1114.99 (-2.53%) itBit : 1115.20 (-2.26%) Kraken : 1089.23 (-3.90%) GDAX : 1112.42 (-1.59%) SLQ : 1 hour, 36 mins``` [2017-03-17 07:07:41] rapidtrades : where do u think new quaterlies will trade at? [2017-03-17 07:08:08] aethlios : any premium above 25 will be stupid. [2017-03-17 07:08:13] Tetsuo : in the first hour or after 2 days? [2017-03-17 07:08:30] Tetsuo : maybe 50$ for a few hours [2017-03-17 07:08:47] Tetsuo : never underestimate the bullkorners [2017-03-17 07:08:58] aethlios : okcoin new quarterly in 1 hour?? [2017-03-17 07:09:01] rapidtrades : $50 is no that great for 90 days [2017-03-17 07:09:11] Tetsuo : ofc not, btc isn´t great [2017-03-17 07:09:21] Tetsuo : aethlios: no idea about okkorn [2017-03-17 07:09:22] cmwprice : Is 1100 going to hold? [2017-03-17 07:09:24] rapidtrades : its just slightly above the average [2017-03-17 07:09:26] Tetsuo : but bitmex quarterlys probably [2017-03-17 07:10:49] Tetsuo : if you would want to sell off into the market in the next weeks, you would probably want to have fresh quarterlys @ a good price [2017-03-17 07:10:53] aethlios : equivalent bitfinex interest usd go long for 90 days is 32 usd premium [2017-03-17 07:11:12] rms : when do new bitmex quarterlies start? [2017-03-17 07:11:21] rapidtrades : wow we almost close the chynoya gap [2017-03-17 07:11:25] aethlios : today 12 utc [2017-03-17 07:11:32] rms : thx [2017-03-17 07:11:50] rms : so a little less than 5 hours [2017-03-17 07:12:00] Gekko : Back to 1200.... [2017-03-17 07:12:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 13292 @ 1114.40 [2017-03-17 07:12:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 8513 @ 1114.56 [2017-03-17 07:12:07] cmwprice : /sentiment [2017-03-17 07:12:09] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 73.85 / 26.15 Daily : 62.38 / 37.62 Weekly : 52.48 / 47.52 Monthly : 51.22 / 48.78``` [2017-03-17 07:12:19] aethlios : eth 27% of btc market cap. [2017-03-17 07:12:28] rapidtrades : a bad news now would rly ccrush pices [2017-03-17 07:12:47] aethlios : kraken 43 usd below. [2017-03-17 07:12:52] rapidtrades : longs are already panicked [2017-03-17 07:13:02] ubba : Rapidtrades apparently solidx etf rejected [2017-03-17 07:13:05] rapidtrades : wtf is up with kraken [2017-03-17 07:13:15] ubba : So there is that [2017-03-17 07:13:20] rapidtrades : maybe i should withdraw what i have left there [2017-03-17 07:13:30] aethlios : next stop 965 (etf bottom) and real below 1000 panic. [2017-03-17 07:13:47] ubba : Whoa kraken selling at 43 USD? [2017-03-17 07:13:47] rapidtrades : 965 where? [2017-03-17 07:14:07] aethlios : 965 usd btc [2017-03-17 07:14:12] ubba : Did the euro devalue that much [2017-03-17 07:14:23] etoque : we have to break that 1060 first [2017-03-17 07:14:27] etoque : alot of resistance here [2017-03-17 07:14:36] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 245 @ 1111.45 [2017-03-17 07:14:37] etoque : some whale don't want to lets btc crush [2017-03-17 07:15:25] aethlios : a rebound to 1140 will be a nice short opening. [2017-03-17 07:15:27] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 6000 @ 1107.88 [2017-03-17 07:15:27] ubba : Maybe they bought the top [2017-03-17 07:15:42] etoque : most probably [2017-03-17 07:15:42] ubba : Liquidating their holdings [2017-03-17 07:16:03] ubba : Slowly? [2017-03-17 07:16:32] rms : i think creep back up after okc settlement [2017-03-17 07:16:44] etoque : another run down coming look like [2017-03-17 07:16:45] rms : someone just needs new quarterlies cheep [2017-03-17 07:17:17] micmix : ^^^ yep [2017-03-17 07:17:22] ubba : Yeah I also bet the usd to cny premium will increase again [2017-03-17 07:17:32] ubba : Back to 100 dollars [2017-03-17 07:18:34] MVZ : hey if you guys want some arbitrage, go check out korean exchanges [2017-03-17 07:19:16] MVZ : bitcoin = 1320 usd [2017-03-17 07:19:20] etoque : here we go again [2017-03-17 07:19:38] aethlios : let's short 100 usd eth (heavy in thet price will high inflation) [2017-03-17 07:21:09] cmwprice : Will 1100 hold or will we have to wait for 1060? [2017-03-17 07:21:33] etoque : imo its gonna drop [2017-03-17 07:21:39] ThruTheFloor : cmwprice: 950 next stop [2017-03-17 07:21:41] etoque : bear are out [2017-03-17 07:21:52] cmwprice : ThruTheFloor: When do you think by? [2017-03-17 07:21:55] etoque : long btc is a suicide now [2017-03-17 07:22:15] emcor : guys thank your for all that new cash on my bank account [2017-03-17 07:22:15] longbydefault : etoque: ok so you're short btc... are you taking profit along the way? [2017-03-17 07:22:19] ThruTheFloor : cmwprice: At this rate, tomorrow [2017-03-17 07:22:19] emcor : i appreciate it [2017-03-17 07:22:23] etoque : longbydefault: yes [2017-03-17 07:22:34] longbydefault : etoque: what price are you closing your short [2017-03-17 07:22:44] etoque : longbydefault: when market reversing [2017-03-17 07:22:47] aethlios : 970 a possible long for 100 usd retrace (previous bottom from etf sell off) [2017-03-17 07:22:50] etoque : just fast trade of 5-10min max [2017-03-17 07:23:13] Dynamix : 1100 not gonna hold for long [2017-03-17 07:23:31] cmwprice : Surely 1060 will hold strong though [2017-03-17 07:23:42] etoque : we need to test it first [2017-03-17 07:23:49] Dynamix : cmwprice: myh if momentum catches up [2017-03-17 07:24:14] aethlios : bear trend until the fork or block soze so;ution??? [2017-03-17 07:25:27] cryptonoob : Polo price on ETH is fucked up [2017-03-17 07:25:40] cryptonoob : why does Bitmex use it as guidance? [2017-03-17 07:25:41] ubba : It's pretty bullish still [2017-03-17 07:25:46] etoque : gonna test 1060 in next 15mn [2017-03-17 07:26:03] etoque : or so [2017-03-17 07:27:05] cmwprice : /sentimnet [2017-03-17 07:27:07] etoque : 1100 is super weak lol its done for this range [2017-03-17 07:27:17] cmwprice : /sentiment [2017-03-17 07:27:20] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 74.82 / 25.18 Daily : 62.46 / 37.54 Weekly : 52.54 / 47.46 Monthly : 51.25 / 48.75``` [2017-03-17 07:27:39] rms : so are you shorting? [2017-03-17 07:27:56] jayesh : But why is it Dumping ? [2017-03-17 07:27:58] rms : i don't think this is a long term crash but settlement dump [2017-03-17 07:28:03] etoque : fork [2017-03-17 07:28:18] l3f : rms: no this is something much more serious [2017-03-17 07:28:20] jayesh : i dont think it will happen. right ? [2017-03-17 07:28:33] l3f : buttcoiners are losing hope because their coin can't scale and ethereum is mooning [2017-03-17 07:28:37] l3f : it is an existential crisis [2017-03-17 07:28:40] ubba : Jayesh it is dumping cause people are selling