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[2015-11-19 14:30:58] rapidtrades : we may be ready to rollover
[2015-11-19 14:45:41] podizzler3k : and you thought governments were easing up on btc
[2015-11-19 14:48:39] rapidtrades : podizzler3k: ya
[2015-11-19 14:52:24] podizzler3k : think we're in for bloody waterfalls?
[2015-11-19 14:59:22] rapidtrades : no clue im just trying stuff
[2015-11-19 14:59:39] podizzler3k : good strategy
[2015-11-19 14:59:55] rapidtrades : new to bitmex
[2015-11-19 15:07:43] messiaen8844 : http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/after-paris-attacks-europe-is-cracking-down-on-bitcoin_564ddd37e4b031745ceff479
[2015-11-19 15:08:13] podizzler3k : yeah its china all over again
[2015-11-19 15:08:32] podizzler3k : clearly bitcoin is the real enemy here
[2015-11-19 15:08:38] podizzler3k : derp
[2015-11-19 15:08:59] rapidtrades : gies
[2015-11-19 15:21:25] rapidtrades : we fell to $322 on btc-e
[2015-11-19 15:22:29] wurstgelee : btc-e is always a few dollars below everybody else
[2015-11-19 15:22:43] rapidtrades : few not
[2015-11-19 15:22:53] rapidtrades : $5
[2015-11-19 15:23:12] BitMEX_Sam : Yeah btc-e has been negative relative to the other exchanges for months
[2015-11-19 15:23:16] BitMEX_Sam : It must be difficult to get fiat out
[2015-11-19 15:25:14] BitMEX_Sam : FYI she's doing a new one in a day or two, but from a few months ago, interview with Arthur: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDikOI2kVe0
[2015-11-19 15:26:31] rapidtrades : who's arthur
[2015-11-19 15:26:51] BitMEX_Sam : Our CEO
[2015-11-19 15:28:52] rapidtrades : she?
[2015-11-19 15:29:25] wurstgelee : she doing interview with him
[2015-11-19 15:29:37] wurstgelee : open tha link and you'll see
[2015-11-19 15:29:40] wurstgelee : *t
[2015-11-19 15:30:06] rapidtrades : can't open anything atm...whole thing's gonna crash
[2015-11-19 15:30:24] rapidtrades : have too many windows open
[2015-11-19 15:33:24] rapidtrades : everyone expects a dump, prolly means its not coming
[2015-11-19 15:45:29] kendang : are the charts not updating for anyone else? "loading data"
[2015-11-19 15:46:32] rapidtrades : works for me
[2015-11-19 15:52:44] wurstgelee : yep works
[2015-11-19 16:01:04] wayann : it works
[2015-11-19 16:02:59] rapidtrades : SELL THE WORLD
[2015-11-19 16:03:37] nickhnt : u short?
[2015-11-19 16:03:43] rapidtrades : am now
[2015-11-19 16:03:56] nickhnt : why now?
[2015-11-19 16:04:21] rapidtrades : feels like its going down
[2015-11-19 16:05:10] nickhnt : yeah it can
[2015-11-19 16:05:20] nickhnt : but it can go to the top of the triangle again
[2015-11-19 16:06:25] wayann : any expert here with bitmex gui? what's doing that checkbox on the isolate margin?
[2015-11-19 16:07:55] nickhnt : wayann: you are locking the amount of margin required for the position to be liquidated
[2015-11-19 16:08:12] nickhnt : if you disable that, you will be using your entire account for the position
[2015-11-19 16:12:37] wayann : so for instance if I've 0.25x I'm locking 25 % of my entire account right?
[2015-11-19 16:13:17] BitMEX_Sam : wayann: No, if you're 0.25x that means the value of your open positions is equal to 25% of the funds in your account
[2015-11-19 16:13:36] BitMEX_Sam : If you click the isolate box, it will separate out margin, isolating the smallest amount possible to that position
[2015-11-19 16:14:08] BitMEX_Sam : Which is up to 100x depending on the contract. So if you have a 1&btc; XBT24H position, and isolate it, the system will assign 0.01&btc; to that position only
[2015-11-19 16:14:40] BitMEX_Sam : Now, that may put liquidation uncomfortably close, depending on your risk appetite. So if you want more margin of error, you can add margin using the +&btc; button
[2015-11-19 16:15:20] brucegoose : hey, hi. just signed up. thanks for the platform. good luck!
[2015-11-19 16:15:31] BitMEX_Sam : brucegoose: Nice to have you here, let me know if you have any questions.
[2015-11-19 16:16:03] wayann : so if position is loosing more then 0.01 then system will automatically close it right?
[2015-11-19 16:16:35] BitMEX_Sam : wayann: Yes, it limits your losses to 0.01. The system will actually close most positions slightly in order to attempt to get out of the position before it is negative
[2015-11-19 16:16:44] BitMEX_Sam : If we didn't do this, system losses would be much more common and affect all users negatively
[2015-11-19 16:16:56] BitMEX_Sam : See https://www.bitmex.com/app/contract/XBT24H
[2015-11-19 16:17:17] BitMEX_Sam : Namely, Initial Margin (this is what you're set to when you isolate, and is how much is required to open a position), and Maintenance Margin, which is how much is required to keep the position open.
[2015-11-19 16:18:03] wayann : so going in cross margin type is full risk mode
[2015-11-19 16:18:16] BitMEX_Sam : Yes, it will use your whole account balance to back the position
[2015-11-19 16:18:16] nickhnt : pretty much
[2015-11-19 16:18:23] BitMEX_Sam : You can lose more, but it keeps you farther from liquidation
[2015-11-19 16:18:34] BitMEX_Sam : Liquidation is costly so it is best to avoid it.
[2015-11-19 16:18:44] BitMEX_Sam : There are advantages to using either system.
[2015-11-19 16:18:48] nickhnt : yeah I lost a lot because i didnt set stop losses or fixed margins
[2015-11-19 16:19:41] wayann : yes I'm familiar with trading, it's just that I'm a newbie to bitmex
[2015-11-19 16:20:39] BitMEX_Sam : :) No worries, I usually over-explain because it's hard to know a person's experience level off the bat
[2015-11-19 16:21:17] wayann : I'm one of those that survived to MtGox
[2015-11-19 16:22:08] wayann : thx sam & nick :)
[2015-11-19 16:26:17] wayann : btw another question I've entered on a position placing different orders at different target price for example placed 50 contract sell order at 135 and 50 at 133 now how do I close a % of my position like for example 50 contracts at 10% profit and so on, is that doable here?
[2015-11-19 16:27:52] nickhnt : wayann: no problem :)
[2015-11-19 16:28:42] BitMEX_Sam : So have you actually opened the position wayann or are those order still live?
[2015-11-19 16:28:55] BitMEX_Sam : You could just put buy limits in the book at your target price
[2015-11-19 16:29:47] wayann : ok same way like finex does
[2015-11-19 16:29:50] nickhnt : well you can calculate how much you will gain from the calculator that bitmex offers
[2015-11-19 16:30:44] wayann : yes I opened very small position to test it out basically
[2015-11-19 16:31:23] nickhnt : open the Order Options at the top of order controls panel
[2015-11-19 16:31:31] nickhnt : there's a calculator there
[2015-11-19 16:31:41] wayann : yes I saw that, it's very handy!
[2015-11-19 16:31:48] BitMEX_Sam : A big part of the reason we denominate in contracts and not in Bitcoin is because it makes it much easier to adjust positions dynamically
[2015-11-19 16:31:49] nickhnt : yes it is :)
[2015-11-19 16:31:54] BitMEX_Sam : Since the Bitcoin value of them actually changes as the price moves
[2015-11-19 16:32:15] BitMEX_Sam : So rather than having to open close whole positions individually (and having multiple positions per contract), you have a single position you can increase or decrease (or even flip) at will
[2015-11-19 16:33:45] wayann : at the beginning the learning curve is steeper but afterwards looks like driving with autopilot
[2015-11-19 16:35:06] BitMEX_Sam : Agreed, it's definitely more up-front confusion (we're working on that) but we firmly believe we have a better system
[2015-11-19 16:36:49] nickhnt : At first I was a little confused about this whole contracts thing, but nowadays i got used to, its easier to handle positions now
[2015-11-19 16:37:13] wayann : yes indeed
[2015-11-19 16:40:32] wayann : another question let's say you open a cross margin type position, you're position is with X% profit is possible to change it to isolated type?
[2015-11-19 16:41:08] wayann : if so does it liquidate the position? or simply swap from margin type?
[2015-11-19 16:45:51] nickhnt : yes you can change isolate to cross anytime
[2015-11-19 16:47:33] nickhnt : i just don't know if you are in a losing position and then you turn to isolate it will liquidate the position
[2015-11-19 16:47:39] BitMEX_Sam : Yeah, simply switching to isolated won't liquidate.
[2015-11-19 16:47:47] BitMEX_Sam : It will refill the margin to the initial margin %
[2015-11-19 16:47:52] BitMEX_Sam : Even if losing.
[2015-11-19 16:48:10] TschavaTschigger : cool, didn't know that
[2015-11-19 16:48:26] wayann : perfect good to know
[2015-11-19 16:48:35] floopfloop : TschavaTschigger: me either
[2015-11-19 16:50:51] BitMEX_Sam : I'll add a note about that to the tooltip
[2015-11-19 16:51:15] wayann : those tooltip are godsends
[2015-11-19 16:51:20] wayann : tooltips*
[2015-11-19 16:51:28] floopfloop : BitMEX_Sam: you better.....or im bringing my funds to okcoin :p
[2015-11-19 16:52:43] floopfloop : id be happen if i broke even on my position right now sigh
[2015-11-19 17:11:48] floopfloop : omgomgomgomg
[2015-11-19 17:12:10] podizzler3k : how you doin to day floopfloop
[2015-11-19 17:12:25] floopfloop : a little pissed of
[2015-11-19 17:12:45] floopfloop : had a short at close, lost on it, then btc dropped $10
[2015-11-19 17:14:51] podizzler3k : ah yea that sucks
[2015-11-19 17:14:55] podizzler3k : thats why i play 7d
[2015-11-19 17:15:04] podizzler3k : dont have to worry about every morning getting reset
[2015-11-19 17:21:55] floopfloop : hmmm should i get rid of this long? lol
[2015-11-19 18:30:20] podizzler3k : is bitmex us based are all our funds going to be seized after tomorrows special meeting?
[2015-11-19 18:30:27] podizzler3k : EU based i mean
[2015-11-19 18:32:18] messiaen8844 : they wil ban bitcoin and erase the blockchain
[2015-11-19 18:32:31] BitMEX_Sam : Not a chance
[2015-11-19 18:32:41] BitMEX_Sam : It's all FUD anyhow, some articles are reporting that Bitcoin may not even be on the agenda
[2015-11-19 18:37:32] floopfloop : wish I hadn't sold part of my long
[2015-11-19 18:37:44] floopfloop : but the market was iffy there for a sec and I was too deep lol
[2015-11-19 18:41:44] singularity321 : BitMEX_Sam: Could you post any links to said articles please
[2015-11-19 18:42:11] singularity321 : If you're not busy
[2015-11-19 18:43:04] BitMEX_Sam : Read between the lines of http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKCN0T81BW20151119 and what they're actually referencing
[2015-11-19 18:43:11] BitMEX_Sam : And see the discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10594453
[2015-11-19 19:07:32] lockhedge : you can buy a virtual Mastercard (cash4web) or a Bitcoin voucher (Coinfinity) in every tobacco store in Austria anonymously - in other EU countries you have to show your ID - i doubt that the EU will forbid Mastercard or Bitcoin, but firms like cash4web or Coinfinity will very probably have to level up KYC requirements
[2015-11-19 19:13:34] TschavaTschigger : do you work at coinfinity?
[2015-11-19 19:19:55] singularity321 : BitMEX_Sam: thanks for the ycom thread and article sam
[2015-11-19 19:25:53] lockhedge : Leak: Draft conclusions of tomorrow's Justice and Home Affairs Council https://twitter.com/RobotFinance/status/667423316538499073
[2015-11-19 19:26:34] lockhedge : this is the "draft document seen by Reuters "
[2015-11-19 19:27:11] wurstgelee : lol
[2015-11-19 19:27:41] wurstgelee : "draft"....
[2015-11-19 19:27:43] lockhedge : TschavaTschigger: no, but worked in Brussels on privacy and financial markets issues for some years
[2015-11-19 19:30:45] wurstgelee : 19:32 - messiaen8844: they wil ban bitcoin and erase the blockchain
[2015-11-19 19:30:48] wurstgelee : lol?
[2015-11-19 19:30:53] ethexio : Withdrawal canceled :( grr
[2015-11-19 19:31:03] wurstgelee : erasing the blockchain? :D
[2015-11-19 19:31:37] ethexio : Where is this coming from? Is that actually said somewhere?
[2015-11-19 19:31:42] wurstgelee : yep, here
[2015-11-19 19:31:50] wurstgelee : 1h ago
[2015-11-19 19:32:44] ethexio : Lol
[2015-11-19 19:33:17] ethexio : That would be quite the feat..
[2015-11-19 19:33:22] wurstgelee : haha
[2015-11-19 19:33:24] wurstgelee : yes ;)
[2015-11-19 19:33:39] wurstgelee : "bitcoin, be undone!"
[2015-11-19 19:34:02] wurstgelee : *blockchain erased*
[2015-11-19 19:39:53] ethexio : OP_ROLLBACK 0x0
[2015-11-19 19:41:03] ethexio : I see we dumped right after settlement..
[2015-11-19 19:41:20] wurstgelee : yep
[2015-11-19 20:01:43] ethexio : Had high hopes for Haasbot + BitMEX, but it's broken.
[2015-11-19 20:03:06] BitMEX_Sam : ethexio: What's wrong with it?
[2015-11-19 20:03:15] BitMEX_Sam : I can reach out to them, I know they were hesitant to extend b/c we didn't have an API Key UI
[2015-11-19 20:04:13] zanza : ethexio: yeah like 3 days in a row
[2015-11-19 20:04:19] zanza : i missed out on the 24h
[2015-11-19 20:05:56] TschavaTschigger : is there anybody in the world that makes profit using haasbot?
[2015-11-19 20:09:00] zanza : nah, gunna make my own bot
[2015-11-19 20:09:09] zanza : seems pretty simple to make
[2015-11-19 20:09:14] TschavaTschigger : I mean, you can only trade using pre-defined indicators if I am not mistaken. How could you possibly make any substantial profit (considering tc) with this... besides the fact that many others are using the same stuff as you.
[2015-11-19 20:09:25] zanza : TschavaTschigger: exactly
[2015-11-19 20:09:50] TschavaTschigger : just seems like a classic noob-trap to me
[2015-11-19 20:14:59] zanza : i already have some algorithms setup
[2015-11-19 20:15:14] ethexio : BitMEX_Sam: Missing some js, as far as I can tell. XBT24H doesn't show, other strange instruments I don't recognize do show, pricechart and orders don't show - but I could place a force order that worked. It doesn't show in their interface, but it does here.
[2015-11-19 20:15:16] zanza : i just need some help with the basic GUI, snackycoins was gunna help I think
[2015-11-19 20:16:24] ethexio : BitMEX_Sam: I think a lot is riding on a missing JS function. Get this in dev console: Uncaught ReferenceError: OpenPushBitMex is not defined
[2015-11-19 20:17:26] ethexio : BitMEX_Sam: stephan says they'll try to get fix in for Monday's update, but they're busy so ..
[2015-11-19 20:17:36] BitMEX_Sam : ethexio: Ah
[2015-11-19 20:17:45] BitMEX_Sam : Thanks ethexio, I'll contact them in case there's anything they need
[2015-11-19 20:18:24] ethexio : But it's totally unusable. Sucks because BitMEX support was the only reason I bought - so it's just sitting there, eating away at my 3mo license doing nothing
[2015-11-19 20:18:37] ethexio : Thanks BitMEX_Sam.
[2015-11-19 20:22:09] BitMEX_Sam : ethexio: Just sent them an email. We'll work to get them on the same SSO implementation as Coinigy so it's easier to get up and running, and I'll make sure they have everything they need to make the integration work fully
[2015-11-19 20:25:01] ethexio : Yeah, that SEO / Coiningy integration was flawless. Almost made me question if it really worked it was so effortless.
[2015-11-19 20:25:28] ethexio : SSO
[2015-11-19 20:25:34] zanza : Is Coiningy/SSO trading bots?
[2015-11-19 20:25:54] ethexio : I wish Coinigy had trading bots/strategies.
[2015-11-19 20:25:59] BitMEX_Sam : ethexio: Yeah Will came into our office to work on it so we had a really glossy implementation
[2015-11-19 20:26:11] BitMEX_Sam : It'll be the base for future integrations.
[2015-11-19 20:26:17] ethexio : nice
[2015-11-19 20:26:37] BitMEX_Sam : Best part of it is that you can revoke the integration any time by going to https://www.bitmex.com/app/apiKeys - good to have control
[2015-11-19 20:28:08] zanza : what is the advantage of trading on Coinigy over here directly?
[2015-11-19 20:28:16] zanza : besides not having to deal with floopfloop
[2015-11-19 20:31:43] ethexio : They have a pretty slick interface, and you can trade multiple exchanges
[2015-11-19 20:32:28] zanza : Sam would you ever consider integrating customizable strategies here? like MM tools and other trading strats? I want to work on something with Snacky
[2015-11-19 20:32:58] zanza : for customizable strategies, if it works well, we could give you source code to integrate if you wanted
[2015-11-19 20:34:51] ethexio : Having scriptable algos available here would be rad. Maybe.
[2015-11-19 20:37:11] zanza : i tried setting up a bot, but 2 problems 1) interface was god awful and running it also 2) the strategies used were fail
[2015-11-19 20:37:33] zanza : making customizable strats integrated, I think could attract a lot of customers here
[2015-11-19 20:39:34] zanza : but snacky's been mia for a few days now ..
[2015-11-19 20:46:45] BitMEX_Sam : Yeah it would be great to have more order types and strategies on the site, it's just a big ask from the frontend side considering the other things we have going on
[2015-11-19 20:46:59] BitMEX_Sam : If we find ourselves with more dev bandwidth we'd definitely do it
[2015-11-19 20:48:13] zanza : ok, I will work on the project with Snacky, get started then once its presentable you can look at it and use/modify it if you wish
[2015-11-19 21:09:59] zanza : so the 7D and 24H should trade at exactly the same price, right?
[2015-11-19 21:11:38] wurstgelee : nope
[2015-11-19 21:12:02] wurstgelee : they currently do but thats usually not the case
[2015-11-19 21:12:27] wurstgelee : *currently similar, not the same
[2015-11-19 21:17:40] wayann : orderbook is only 25 levels deep? is there a page where we can see the whole order book?
[2015-11-19 21:18:12] zanza : wayann: u can expand the window
[2015-11-19 21:19:56] wayann : yes that's what I did
[2015-11-19 21:20:29] wayann : it shows 25 levels
[2015-11-19 21:20:51] wurstgelee : more levels via api afaik
[2015-11-19 21:21:58] wayann : is there a page where uses the api to show all entry on order book?
[2015-11-19 21:22:15] wurstgelee : dunno
[2015-11-19 21:22:35] jung1 : I though we wiil fall to 300
[2015-11-19 21:22:43] jung1 : china dont give a fuck about ue
[2015-11-19 21:23:23] wayann : china usually responds around 12 am 1 am UTC
[2015-11-19 21:25:03] jung1 : but this meeting will be tommorow
[2015-11-19 21:25:16] jung1 : about digital currencies
[2015-11-19 21:25:22] jung1 : so weekent could be red
[2015-11-19 21:25:29] habibi : nope
[2015-11-19 21:26:35] habibi : all will be good, probally there will be no more repercussions, just speeding up planned laws connected with AML stuff
[2015-11-19 21:30:00] wayann : hmm rest api rate limited... ok so websocket is the way to go
[2015-11-19 21:34:04] zanza : ok, im taking a short position (slightly)
[2015-11-19 21:37:30] habibi : choping till setlement -->bear trap-->up
[2015-11-19 21:40:08] zanza : I noticed the past few days, there have been "spikes" right after the 24H settlement here
[2015-11-19 21:40:22] zanza : how likely is it the spikes are related to the `XBT24H` ?
[2015-11-19 21:40:41] zanza : seems like bitMEX is still pretty under the radar
[2015-11-19 21:41:39] habibi : zanza: okc settlement
[2015-11-19 21:41:53] zanza : OKc only has weekly tho
[2015-11-19 21:41:59] zanza : not a daily?
[2015-11-19 21:43:14] habibi : weekly
[2015-11-19 21:43:25] habibi : and next week, and quat
[2015-11-19 21:49:35] habibi : or monthly
[2015-11-19 22:17:50] jung1 : down we go
[2015-11-19 22:18:55] jung1 : whole list of ethereum dapps http://dapps.ethercasts.com/
[2015-11-19 22:19:03] jung1 : it will be huge
[2015-11-19 22:19:38] zanza : floopyfloop told me 331 was the floor, wtf
[2015-11-19 22:20:09] jung1 : you got floopyflooped
[2015-11-19 22:20:26] zanza : rofl
[2015-11-19 22:37:55] rapidtrades : rofl omg
[2015-11-19 22:46:28] rapidtrades : how do I stop the notifications from showing up
[2015-11-19 22:47:05] BitMEX_Sam : rapidtrades: We are going to make that configurable very soon, if you like I can disable them from our end if you like
[2015-11-19 22:47:08] BitMEX_Sam : Which ones would you like to disable?
[2015-11-19 22:48:05] TschavaTschigger : BitMEX doesn't need configurable UI, you just message the technical stuff and they will custom-code your frontend
[2015-11-19 22:48:17] TschavaTschigger : staff*
[2015-11-19 22:48:19] BitMEX_Sam : TschavaTschigger: :) It's a user preference
[2015-11-19 22:48:23] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Sam: I'd like to keep the ones that say I've been filled, the rest can be disabled
[2015-11-19 22:48:24] BitMEX_Sam : Just not exposed yet, will be very shortly
[2015-11-19 22:48:29] BitMEX_Sam : rapidtrades: You got it
[2015-11-19 22:48:48] rapidtrades : tnx
[2015-11-19 22:50:45] BitMEX_Sam : rapidtrades: Please log out and back in and you'll be good to go
[2015-11-19 22:52:30] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Sam: tnx they're disabled now
[2015-11-19 22:53:02] BitMEX_Sam : :) I'll be out much of the evening, Wally & Arthur will be around soon
[2015-11-19 22:53:04] BitMEX_Sam : Have a good one everyone
[2015-11-19 23:20:03] zanza : ciao BitMEX_Sam
[2015-11-19 23:42:04] jung1 : goback to 330?
[2015-11-19 23:49:31] habibi : jung u said dump last time
[2015-11-19 23:49:34] habibi : to 300 :D
[2015-11-19 23:50:42] jung1 : well I will be notsuprised
[2015-11-19 23:50:53] jung1 : if we hit in weekend
[2015-11-19 23:54:38] habibi : will u be suprised if we stay above 325 then?
[2015-11-19 23:55:54] zanza : anyone hear that Europe news?
[2015-11-19 23:56:02] zanza : they may regulate here more
[2015-11-19 23:56:20] habibi : old news
[2015-11-19 23:56:32] zanza : :/
[2015-11-19 23:56:35] jung1 : today is that meeting
[2015-11-20 00:04:05] rapidtrades : today...our fate will be determined
[2015-11-20 00:42:02] amirmass : DUMP TIME
[2015-11-20 00:55:02] ethexio : alert
[2015-11-20 00:55:41] ethexio : Europe just erased the blockchain and rolled back every transaction
[2015-11-20 00:56:09] jung1 : 318 on finex
[2015-11-20 00:57:06] ethexio : LTC dumping
[2015-11-20 00:59:56] amirmass : TOLD YA
[2015-11-20 01:00:37] jung1 : not end yet
[2015-11-20 01:01:54] jung1 : huobi dumping hard
[2015-11-20 01:04:09] rapidtrades : gettting annoyed by this ....either fall or rally
[2015-11-20 01:13:32] lockhedge : Bitfinex delivers some wrong data again https://twitter.com/RobotFinance/status/667509734489120771 bid/ask and mid prices are frozen https://api.bitfinex.com/v1/ticker/btcusd
[2015-11-20 01:13:54] rapidtrades : noooooooooo
[2015-11-20 01:27:53] zanza : rapidtrades: hey., hows it going man?
[2015-11-20 01:28:10] rapidtrades : meh okay..scalping a bit
[2015-11-20 01:28:11] zanza : BitFinex is a joke house
[2015-11-20 01:28:23] zanza : are you liking this site, and learning how it works?
[2015-11-20 01:29:33] rapidtrades : zanza: its okay, fees are low but so is liquidity
[2015-11-20 01:29:46] zanza : 24H has good liquidity
[2015-11-20 01:31:52] zanza : the interface here is much better than anything I have seen elsewhere also
[2015-11-20 01:35:51] irbbqu : We super bullish wity the premium boys
[2015-11-20 01:36:09] zanza : where?
[2015-11-20 01:39:37] zanza : there went the premiums
[2015-11-20 01:40:25] habibi : still premium
[2015-11-20 01:40:33] irbbqu : yep..
[2015-11-20 01:48:32] zanza : whoosh
[2015-11-20 01:49:15] irbbqu : Bloody but typical bitcoin, hope no1 got burnt badly.
[2015-11-20 01:49:17] abc123_ : WTF????????????
[2015-11-20 01:49:20] podizzler3000 : how to spot a trading noob ----> [19:59] (amirmass): TOLD YA
[2015-11-20 01:49:33] irbbqu : Same story over and over.
[2015-11-20 01:49:52] amirmass : BUY
[2015-11-20 01:49:53] amirmass : NOW
[2015-11-20 01:50:28] irbbqu : LOL
[2015-11-20 01:52:28] zanza : <flash>BOTTOM REACHED<flash>
[2015-11-20 01:52:51] zanza : <blink>BOTTOM REACHED<blink>
[2015-11-20 01:53:00] habibi : depends on chinese
[2015-11-20 01:53:12] rapidtrades : chinese minise
[2015-11-20 01:55:09] ethexio : beware
[2015-11-20 01:55:12] podizzler3000 : buy now bottom reached wtf? more like "i just bought please god let this be the bottom"
[2015-11-20 01:55:31] ethexio : not bottom
[2015-11-20 01:55:39] ethexio : but keep buying
[2015-11-20 01:56:04] podizzler3000 : all caps = emotional traders come on guys we have to be better than this
[2015-11-20 01:56:09] irbbqu : Datt premium..
[2015-11-20 01:56:17] amirmass : podizzler3000: WHAT
[2015-11-20 01:56:34] podizzler3000 : we're arthur's trading pupils not fontas'
[2015-11-20 01:56:41] amirmass : BTFD
[2015-11-20 01:56:47] amirmass : WE ARE GOING UP
[2015-11-20 01:56:52] podizzler3000 : ok bro
[2015-11-20 01:56:54] zanza : im ready boys
[2015-11-20 01:56:57] amirmass : I HAVE LOST EVERYTHING
[2015-11-20 01:57:03] amirmass : AWESOME
[2015-11-20 01:57:05] amirmass : REKT
[2015-11-20 01:57:11] messiaen8844 : pretty good day.
[2015-11-20 01:57:24] rapidtrades : amirmass: u can now live free
[2015-11-20 01:57:27] messiaen8844 : closed my lngs with prof then shorted
[2015-11-20 01:57:36] rapidtrades : or die as they say in the free state
[2015-11-20 01:58:45] rapidtrades : dam still $3 premium
[2015-11-20 02:00:00] billyboy402 : $2 on weekly
[2015-11-20 02:00:51] clashcitybaron : I too got #rekt
[2015-11-20 02:01:01] zanza : clashcitybaron: sry, what happened?
[2015-11-20 02:01:29] clashcitybaron : Funnily enough I was at a trading course with a long open
[2015-11-20 02:01:34] clashcitybaron : 3 hours later, rekt
[2015-11-20 02:02:02] zanza : :/
[2015-11-20 02:02:03] rapidtrades : clashcitybaron: this is the only course u need, bitch
[2015-11-20 02:02:13] habibi : finally premium is done
[2015-11-20 02:02:28] zanza : 0 premium now
[2015-11-20 02:02:30] clashcitybaron : step 1: buy btc step 2: trade btc step 3: get #rekt
[2015-11-20 02:02:31] rapidtrades : yeaah should've kept my mouth shut
[2015-11-20 02:03:18] habibi : liquidations inc probally soon
[2015-11-20 02:04:26] micmix : I'm not sure why you guys are trading with the leverage so high that you are getting rekt by $10-$20 move
[2015-11-20 02:04:49] micmix : It's bitcoin, it can move $50 in a day
[2015-11-20 02:05:01] clashcitybaron : actually got mostly rekt overnight
[2015-11-20 02:05:07] clashcitybaron : and this now was just the final blow
[2015-11-20 02:05:28] habibi : i never leave bigger positions here than 1k contracts during night and tight stop losses
[2015-11-20 02:05:34] zanza : micmix: high risk, high reward
[2015-11-20 02:06:19] zanza : 2k CNY is resistance
[2015-11-20 02:06:21] micmix : yeah, and the sure way to get rekt eventually. it shouldn't be gambling
[2015-11-20 02:06:38] habibi : too early to say that imo
[2015-11-20 02:07:17] messiaen8844 : time to bounc
[2015-11-20 02:07:35] podizzler3000 : uh oh do we have another bottom predictor?
[2015-11-20 02:07:50] zanza : where is Floopyfloop?
[2015-11-20 02:08:08] podizzler3000 : floopyflooop mysteriously missing today
[2015-11-20 02:08:12] rapidtrades : zanza: cryiing in th fetal position
[2015-11-20 02:08:20] zanza : there are some walls at 2000 CNY
[2015-11-20 02:08:37] habibi : rather small
[2015-11-20 02:08:48] habibi : compared to 2050-2080
[2015-11-20 02:10:49] zanza : massive volume on Houb
[2015-11-20 02:11:04] habibi : BitMEX_Sam: i heard there is going to be a maintance, could u remind me when?
[2015-11-20 02:11:42] rapidtrades : NOW
[2015-11-20 02:13:32] zanza : bounce boys
[2015-11-20 02:14:18] rapidtrades : zanza: tnx for the tip ive been trying to buy for 5 mins now
[2015-11-20 02:14:27] zanza : :o
[2015-11-20 02:17:01] rapidtrades : we are trading way below china n
[2015-11-20 02:17:06] rapidtrades : now
[2015-11-20 02:17:09] zanza : as usual
[2015-11-20 02:17:25] rapidtrades : its $5 so not usual
[2015-11-20 02:18:09] micmix : my prediction for today: 1-2% bounce of 2000 CNY then another attack to break it before OKC settlement. it's not enough profit for big traders with the settlement above 2000 CNY
[2015-11-20 02:18:30] zanza : http://imgur.com/9fQqjem
[2015-11-20 02:18:37] gouda : i agree micmix
[2015-11-20 02:18:38] rapidtrades : meh usually setttlemt is calmer
[2015-11-20 02:18:52] rapidtrades : this is the bottom pre-settlement iimo
[2015-11-20 02:18:55] gouda : everyonce in a while we get a settlement dump
[2015-11-20 02:18:59] gouda : and they are blood
[2015-11-20 02:19:11] gouda : bottom is not in
[2015-11-20 02:19:20] gouda : but keep buying :D
[2015-11-20 02:19:24] micmix : we still have 3-4 hours at least before calming down
[2015-11-20 02:19:34] rapidtrades : at settlement, is profit asssesed compared to last Friday or compared to my actual PnL? on OKC
[2015-11-20 02:19:54] zanza : your unrealized becomes realized
[2015-11-20 02:20:03] rapidtrades : so pnl
[2015-11-20 02:21:39] rapidtrades : I missed a LTC arb earlier, pissed for being a coward
[2015-11-20 02:22:35] zanza : on bmex?
[2015-11-20 02:22:40] zanza : i didn't think anyone trades that here
[2015-11-20 02:24:29] rapidtrades : no okc
[2015-11-20 02:24:56] podizzler3000 : btc china holding up
[2015-11-20 02:25:02] podizzler3000 : everything else stalled
[2015-11-20 02:25:22] podizzler3000 : closing out positions going neutral
[2015-11-20 02:25:41] rapidtrades : yeah I'll go back to bed...later homes
[2015-11-20 02:27:31] lockhedge : Bitfinex's API seems to work again, took them more than 1 hour to fix the issue https://api.bitfinex.com/v1/ticker/btcusd
[2015-11-20 02:27:52] zanza : bucketshop
[2015-11-20 02:28:23] habibi : lets go down again
[2015-11-20 02:28:39] zanza : how low do you want it habibi
[2015-11-20 02:28:56] habibi : finex is working on it
[2015-11-20 02:29:30] habibi : so i will tell after comfirmed bottom
[2015-11-20 02:30:00] podizzler3000 : watch btcchina
[2015-11-20 02:30:25] habibi : noone care about them :p
[2015-11-20 02:30:36] micmix : lockhedge: I didn't see any porblems with the orderbook data that we're using. let me check trade data
[2015-11-20 02:34:17] lockhedge : micmix: only ask, bid and mid at their REST API's endpoint <code>ticker/btcusd</code> were frozen
[2015-11-20 02:35:32] micmix : lockhedge: ah ok, trade data looks good as well
[2015-11-20 02:36:09] micmix : lockhedge: I can give you access to orderbook data if you need ask/bid/mid history
[2015-11-20 02:38:16] lockhedge : micmix: thank, don't need their historical. but it would be very interesting to see the tradehistory of your 13/17 bot
[2015-11-20 02:38:25] micmix : lockhedge: yep, ask/bid in ticker data was frozen from 00:49 to 02:24 UTC
[2015-11-20 02:38:39] zanza : isn't that miratrader bot?
[2015-11-20 02:39:18] micmix : lockhedge: miratrader/micmix, it's all the same
[2015-11-20 02:39:39] micmix : lockhedge: sorry, that was reply to zanza
[2015-11-20 02:41:16] zanza : where is floopy micmix ?
[2015-11-20 02:41:47] clashcitybaron : either crying cos he missed today's short opportunities or partying because he didn't
[2015-11-20 02:43:42] micmix : lockhedge: I will have to ask our quant permission to give you bot trade history. I doubt they will agree though :-(
[2015-11-20 02:45:17] micmix : lockhedge: trading is not just me unlike cryptoiq data service
[2015-11-20 02:49:07] lockhedge : micmix: ok no problem, it's easy to track this data anyway ;) you could tell your partners i'm willing to give some feedback relating to how to protect better against reverse engineering and spoofing (and share my tradehistory as well in exchange)
[2015-11-20 02:51:12] micmix : lockhedge: yep, I'll talk to them. BTW, the 13/17 bot is simple, without any predictive models. It's just an integration test and order flow capture test.
[2015-11-20 02:51:39] AudibleScience : good evening everyone
[2015-11-20 02:51:47] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : AudibleScience: Good evening :)
[2015-11-20 02:52:18] AudibleScience : how's it going?
[2015-11-20 02:54:05] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : AudibleScience: Missed all the action today unfortunately and still in the red :(
[2015-11-20 02:54:11] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : How's it going for you?
[2015-11-20 02:54:21] AudibleScience : I've got a nasty little long from way up! :( @ 326...
[2015-11-20 02:54:52] AudibleScience : not sure if we're going back up there tonight any more either?
[2015-11-20 02:55:33] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : AudibleScience: Ouch. I hope we go back up
[2015-11-20 02:57:25] AudibleScience : I reduced it down to just over 2k and took a little -0.3829 hit in the process... but it feels so much better when not gambling... )
[2015-11-20 02:57:51] AudibleScience : :)
[2015-11-20 02:58:51] floopfloop : i lost alot today
[2015-11-20 02:59:00] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : floopfloop: :(
[2015-11-20 02:59:01] j8 : okc next week has been trading below spot, if that indicates anything
[2015-11-20 02:59:09] podizzler3000 : turns out china does care about EU
[2015-11-20 02:59:16] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : j8: pump? :p
[2015-11-20 02:59:23] floopfloop : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: yeah going long when people are retarded as hell is not a good idea
[2015-11-20 02:59:37] j8 : who knows, anything can happen after settlement
[2015-11-20 03:00:03] podizzler3000 : i have my longs in down by $300
[2015-11-20 03:03:28] AudibleScience : floopfloop: savage man... I've been there myself dude! how much did the market take from you then?
[2015-11-20 03:04:08] floopfloop : AudibleScience: like .3 btc
[2015-11-20 03:04:14] floopfloop : im still ahead but fck
[2015-11-20 03:05:18] AudibleScience : floopfloop: weird! that's almost the same as me then...
[2015-11-20 03:05:49] floopfloop : im up over 15%
[2015-11-20 03:06:16] floopfloop : should have been up 30% even with today if it werent for fat finger tade
[2015-11-20 03:06:47] AudibleScience : me not! :(
[2015-11-20 03:06:58] floopfloop : im mscared to go long
[2015-11-20 03:08:55] AudibleScience : I know what you mean... the market has been very unpredictable recently...
[2015-11-20 03:09:08] AudibleScience : even more so that usual I mean! lol
[2015-11-20 03:20:32] AudibleScience : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: I have this strange (totally unfounded) fear that we're not even going to see 2100 again in a hurry!!
[2015-11-20 03:21:47] zanza : hello floopfloop
[2015-11-20 03:22:24] AudibleScience : I truly hope I'm really badly wrong about it though lol
[2015-11-20 03:23:36] Swedishnut : I kinda feel the opposite myself. But I've been helping a bunch of church folk set up btc stuff so they can give their pennies to Jesus more efficiently
[2015-11-20 03:24:56] AudibleScience : Swedishnut: lol so do you think that is shaping your optimism?
[2015-11-20 03:25:16] Swedishnut : indeed the more folks using the Bits coin the better right?
[2015-11-20 03:25:40] AudibleScience : Swedishnut: for sure
[2015-11-20 03:27:05] zanza : Swedishnut: they have churches in Sweden? lol
[2015-11-20 03:27:11] Swedishnut : I mean think of it this way. Lawnmower has a promotion where you sign up and get 5$ in btc. now imagine you are in a "mega" church of a few thousand (Say 2,000) and for optimism they all sign up and give the free 5$ to the church and a 1/2 the total to a charity of their choice (France for instance red cross) you have raised 10k in moments
[2015-11-20 03:27:29] zanza : good point Swedishnut
[2015-11-20 03:27:34] podizzler3000 : looking good now for btc
[2015-11-20 03:27:43] Swedishnut : I video chat with friends across the sea :)
[2015-11-20 03:28:10] messiaen8844 : podizzler3000, so it sems like i'm a good bottom predictorr ;
[2015-11-20 03:28:15] zanza : Swedishnut: do you play HON?
[2015-11-20 03:28:17] messiaen8844 : :D
[2015-11-20 03:28:29] zanza : its popular there I hear
[2015-11-20 03:28:48] Swedishnut : HON? I am unfamiliar.
[2015-11-20 03:28:59] zanza : haha ok
[2015-11-20 03:29:12] messiaen8844 : see you at 2060
[2015-11-20 03:29:22] Swedishnut : I'm kind of a shut in most of the time. extravert online wallflower in person
[2015-11-20 03:29:42] zanza : is this the bounce?
[2015-11-20 03:29:50] zanza : Swedishnut: all bitcoin people are
[2015-11-20 03:29:54] gouda : i don't think so
[2015-11-20 03:29:56] podizzler3000 : messiaen8844 the fact that you didnt scream it in all caps was enough to prove youre legit to me
[2015-11-20 03:30:06] gouda : i think more down is coming
[2015-11-20 03:30:14] zanza : <blink>HERE IS THE BOUNCE BOYS<blink>
[2015-11-20 03:30:24] gouda : dead cat bounce
[2015-11-20 03:30:35] podizzler3000 : haha like that
[2015-11-20 03:30:38] Swedishnut : likely more down but I woudn't mind. Lots of church folks are hoping to buy in at 200 if it hits that again
[2015-11-20 03:30:42] gouda : here comes the blood
[2015-11-20 03:30:56] podizzler3000 : church folks? haha
[2015-11-20 03:30:59] messiaen8844 : more down, but after this is finished, either aound here or at 206
[2015-11-20 03:31:12] podizzler3000 : why dont the church folks just buy .5btc? do they think its not possible?
[2015-11-20 03:31:24] podizzler3000 : 200? 206? wtf
[2015-11-20 03:31:36] gouda : yea i see 250 coming :D
[2015-11-20 03:31:38] Swedishnut : Yeah church folks send 10% of their income to the facility of communication
[2015-11-20 03:31:39] messiaen8844 : 2060 CNY
[2015-11-20 03:32:37] billyboy402 : retracing back up a little , nice buy if you can get some shorts in at 325 :)
[2015-11-20 03:32:48] billyboy402 : some noob may market buy lol
[2015-11-20 03:33:01] Swedishnut : I haven't quite got the right ears to hear the full pitch yet though so it is yet to be more than a handful of communities yet. (I need my uncle who is a pastor to get on board but he thinks I am crazy odd)
[2015-11-20 03:35:37] podizzler3000 : 2050 would be huge
[2015-11-20 03:36:36] AudibleScience : gouda: 250 :( how soon and for how long according to your analysis?
[2015-11-20 03:37:02] gouda : well if we break 300 next support is 275-280 area
[2015-11-20 03:37:12] gouda : and if that goes $250
[2015-11-20 03:37:39] gouda : we could bounce off $250 and would be a nice handle for a big cup that made from our 500 btc pump :D
[2015-11-20 03:39:47] zanza : lol
[2015-11-20 03:40:03] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : zanza: good response haha
[2015-11-20 03:40:37] AudibleScience : gouda: are you planning on buying 500 coins if we hit $250 then?
[2015-11-20 03:41:24] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : `XBT7D` same price or cheaper than `XBT24H` right now.
[2015-11-20 03:41:32] gouda : if we get to $250 and it hold :D
[2015-11-20 03:41:36] zanza : https://bfxdata.com/sentiment/longshort
[2015-11-20 03:41:43] zanza : how come this site still shows price at 328 ?
[2015-11-20 03:41:54] j8 : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: they expire at the same time, they're almost identical on the last day of the week
[2015-11-20 03:42:34] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : j8: Makes sense, except it not being the last day of the week
[2015-11-20 03:42:43] j8 : isn't it
[2015-11-20 03:43:08] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : j8: Nevermind, I failed :p
[2015-11-20 03:43:32] j8 : yeah i was hoping i didn't have that wrong, haha
[2015-11-20 03:43:44] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : j8: Thanks for keeping me in line haha
[2015-11-20 03:45:03] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Underwater long for sale, extra cheap :p
[2015-11-20 03:46:09] gouda : hope you didn't go long
[2015-11-20 03:46:13] gouda : bottom going to be tested again :D
[2015-11-20 03:46:51] podizzler3000 : if it dumps ill buy more at the bottom
[2015-11-20 03:47:34] AudibleScience : podizzler3000: me too... I'm still long also
[2015-11-20 03:48:38] gouda : 1day rsi says we can set a lower low
[2015-11-20 03:48:44] gouda : id be carefuil
[2015-11-20 03:50:16] podizzler3000 : 1 day rsi also said 1800 was top
[2015-11-20 03:50:53] gouda : not in a pump and dump
[2015-11-20 03:51:10] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : gouda: This is the dump part, yes?
[2015-11-20 03:51:23] gouda : i think we are getting a settlement dump
[2015-11-20 03:52:05] gouda : https://www.tradingview.com/chart/BTCUSD/3jids4FB-BTCUSD-Just-for-fun/
[2015-11-20 03:52:39] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : gouda: That's ridiculous. No way
[2015-11-20 03:52:42] gouda : that pump was just the 2013 pump condensed
[2015-11-20 03:52:47] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : You can quote me on that. Not going to happen
[2015-11-20 03:53:59] gouda : cool
[2015-11-20 03:54:03] gouda : ill see you at the true bottom
[2015-11-20 03:55:29] AudibleScience : GRR my internet is killing me! I think since my router died and I got another one... without the god mod on it... I'm being traffic shaped like mad!
[2015-11-20 03:56:11] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : gouda waiting for $80 bitcoins: http://zdnet2.cbsistatic.com/hub/i/r/2014/08/27/66a975c4-2db0-11e4-9e6a-00505685119a/resize/1170x878/903f6768668600a12ddc39a0b8f67aa3/skeleton-at-keyboard.jpg
[2015-11-20 03:56:27] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : AudibleScience: What's the god mod?
[2015-11-20 03:56:35] AudibleScience : gouda: that link hasn't even loaded on my pc yet! what a joke!!
[2015-11-20 03:57:04] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : AudibleScience: Show's the same path after the 2013 top repeated, culminating in a drop to $80 lol
[2015-11-20 03:57:13] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : *Shows
[2015-11-20 03:58:50] AudibleScience : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: OMG I hope not! that would be awful!!
[2015-11-20 03:59:30] AudibleScience : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: the god mod is a modified netgear firmware
[2015-11-20 04:00:29] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : AudibleScience: Don't worry it's not happening. The bears are just still in bear mode and haven't realized yet that the market has changed over the past 11 months
[2015-11-20 04:02:36] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : AudibleScience: We saw all the way from 250-500 people shorting because they didn't remember that bitcoin can go up to and that helped to fuel the rise. Same situation as bulls not being ready to admit that we weren't going to 10k once the 2013 bubble burst
[2015-11-20 04:03:15] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : *could go up too
[2015-11-20 04:03:16] gouda : i think will bounce off 275 or 250 and come back up to 400