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[2017-03-14 22:39:10] sleger : but rate goes down, now is expensive because volatility
[2017-03-14 22:39:12] Ahhere : -_-: would love to know how much do transaction fees affect shapeshift bottom line
[2017-03-14 22:40:20] -_- : Once dash buyer wants to buy on the way down then we'll dump
[2017-03-14 22:43:11] etoque : im really sad about the contract here lol I have soo good position
[2017-03-14 22:43:18] etoque : and going to close in 2 day
[2017-03-14 22:46:11] sleger : -_-: i agree its a bit too risky to short now
[2017-03-14 22:47:13] Ahhere : dash twitter only mentions ath masternode counts of course would be nice to have a twitterbot updating masternode count
[2017-03-14 22:49:39] BTCDJS : Its a shame DASH was pumped so hard. Now I've lost respect for it. Unless its having a BTC 2013 moment?
[2017-03-14 22:50:01] KingTuna : What happens when a future contract expires and you haven't closed it?
[2017-03-14 22:50:02] Apocalyptic : sleger: are you planning to trade tomorrow's FOMC ?
[2017-03-14 22:50:23] BTCDJS : KingTuna: profit or loss is realised
[2017-03-14 22:50:51] Ahhere : if it looks like a pumpndump and quacks like a pumpndump its probably a pumpndump @BTCDJS
[2017-03-14 22:51:09] KingTuna : BTCDJS: Ah that's not bad. So it saves you the hassle of closing it
[2017-03-14 22:51:32] thedukedog : /price
[2017-03-14 22:51:35] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1245.04 (-0.39%) Bitfinex : 1243.80 (-0.59%) The Woodchipper : 1246.01 (-0.34%) itBit : 1243.45 (-0.36%) Kraken : 1245.94 (-0.21%) GDAX : 1249.14 (-0.15%) SLQ : 2 hours, 26 mins```
[2017-03-14 22:51:42] sleger : Apocalyptic: trade what ?
[2017-03-14 22:51:43] BTCDJS : Ahhere: Well if you look at the history it was never a PnD
[2017-03-14 22:51:47] -_- : Dash ath
[2017-03-14 22:52:12] sleger : Dash ats (stupid)
[2017-03-14 22:52:18] Ahhere : BTCDJS: I know just checked my darkcoin wallet for some lose change with no luck
[2017-03-14 22:52:19] Apocalyptic : sleger: the hike/non-hike event
[2017-03-14 22:52:38] sleger : Apocalyptic: i know, i said trade what
[2017-03-14 22:53:39] sleger : its priced in at 100% anyways, the decision is a non-event
[2017-03-14 22:54:05] Apocalyptic : my question was not instrument-specific, just wondering if you had some bet on it
[2017-03-14 22:54:35] sleger : bet ? no,
[2017-03-14 22:59:04] -_- : dash ATH
[2017-03-14 22:59:07] BitMEX_Sam : Thoughts? http://i.imgur.com/ytkES9r.png
[2017-03-14 22:59:07] -_- : where my dash heads at
[2017-03-14 22:59:27] -_- : about time BitMEX_Sam
[2017-03-14 22:59:52] -_- : actually BitMEX_Sam i would prefer current price
[2017-03-14 23:00:15] -_- : but some kind of idea what the price is at would be good
[2017-03-14 23:00:18] BitMEX_Sam : Yeah, I would like to expand it out more but there just isn't the horizontal space. Thinking of how we might do a table-based selector instead
[2017-03-14 23:01:01] ripcord : BitMEX_Sam: agree that current price would be better
[2017-03-14 23:01:12] BitMEX_Sam : FYI the current price is in the ticker bar
[2017-03-14 23:01:27] ross : BitMEX_Sam: perfer the percentage
[2017-03-14 23:01:35] BitMEX_Sam : It could probably be tuned to be more readable than it is, but it is there
[2017-03-14 23:02:08] ripcord : BitMEX_Sam: ah yes, thanks! didin
[2017-03-14 23:02:13] ripcord : didn't even see it
[2017-03-14 23:02:24] ross : /sentiment
[2017-03-14 23:02:27] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 64.30 / 35.71 Daily : 42.65 / 57.35 Weekly : 49.55 / 50.45 Monthly : 49.94 / 50.06```
[2017-03-14 23:02:44] etoque : BitMEX_Sam: hi,I would like to know why all contract margin are just for 2 day
[2017-03-14 23:02:57] BitMEX_Sam : Not following your question - could you rephrase?
[2017-03-14 23:03:10] BitMEX_Sam : Are you referring to the 7D futures?
[2017-03-14 23:03:16] BitMEX_Sam : In two days they expire (Friday at 12 UTC)
[2017-03-14 23:03:36] etoque : I don't understand why this system,first time I see it
[2017-03-14 23:03:49] BitMEX_Sam : We're considering longer-dated futures for some alts but it's a question of finding MMs to commit to it, as they will have longer-term delta which is more difficult to manage
[2017-03-14 23:03:57] sleger : BitMEX_Sam: prefer price to return
[2017-03-14 23:04:34] BitMEX_Sam : Another option is that we could do a collapsible contract selector in the sidebar, above the "Place Order" control
[2017-03-14 23:04:48] sleger : delta is delta it's not harder to manage over 30d or 7d. It might grow bigger yes, but it's not harder
[2017-03-14 23:04:50] BitMEX_Sam : It would just have to be tuned to be usable and not take up too much space when not in use. That sidebar is already getting a bit crowded
[2017-03-14 23:05:10] BitMEX_Sam : Anyway thanks for the thoughts all - have to run but leave more here if you have them and I'll read later.
[2017-03-14 23:05:13] sleger : BitMEX_Sam: you could make it a 2 row sidebar
[2017-03-14 23:05:24] BitMEX_Greg : sleger: Greater exposure to Polo counterparty risk too
[2017-03-14 23:05:36] sleger : BitMEX_Greg: yes because of higher exposure, thats what i said
[2017-03-14 23:05:48] sleger : but its not "harder" its just maybe "bigger"
[2017-03-14 23:06:07] sleger : but almost all alts traders in the chat have complained about the short maturity
[2017-03-14 23:06:16] sleger : so you're certainly losing volume there
[2017-03-14 23:06:42] BitMEX_Greg : Yeah, we are looking at a trial run perhaps
[2017-03-14 23:06:53] BitMEX_Greg : So let's see if the traders put the money where their mouths are :P
[2017-03-14 23:07:04] sleger : anyways, a real MM should turn its inventory in <1 d, so a 7d or 30 d expiration shoudlnt matter too much
[2017-03-14 23:07:44] hmmmYea : BitMEX_Greg: i would love longer dated... maybe a perp swap on eth too?
[2017-03-14 23:07:50] BitMEX_Greg : Guessing most of the guys who want longer dated are bag holders, so I don't know if having longer dated would generate more churn
[2017-03-14 23:07:51] sleger : NO
[2017-03-14 23:08:00] sleger : hmmYeah is a newb he doesnt know
[2017-03-14 23:08:05] hmmmYea : BitMEX_Greg: what mm deals are offered?
[2017-03-14 23:08:08] sleger : perp swap on eth already existed before
[2017-03-14 23:08:13] BitMEX_Greg : hmmmYea: We used to have it, but the funding rates were constantly complained about
[2017-03-14 23:08:21] sleger : hmmmYea: you're brand new you dont know much yet
[2017-03-14 23:08:33] BitMEX_Greg : hmmmYea: None at this time. We already offer the 2.5bp rebate for maker orders
[2017-03-14 23:08:36] -_- : and a DASH market maker that doesnt leave the book empty every 5 minutes
[2017-03-14 23:08:46] sleger : perp swap wouldnt work indeed, but everyone would be ok with 30d futures
[2017-03-14 23:09:26] hmmmYea : BitMEX_Greg: you dont offer additional incentives for commitments to provide markets? like a DPM or specialist system?
[2017-03-14 23:09:27] sleger : BitMEX_Greg: also you should maybe consider investing now in taking eth as collateral. Like I predicted, it grew a lot, and its still miles away from what it will be, better be prepared..... ethmex.com FTW
[2017-03-14 23:09:45] sleger : hmmmYea: why you care, it doesnt really concern you
[2017-03-14 23:11:46] -_- : 30 day futures just means everyone longs big or shorts big and prays it goes in the other direction big
[2017-03-14 23:11:55] Rado : sleger: 30 day will be great
[2017-03-14 23:12:07] BitMEX_Greg : hmmmYea: Not at this time
[2017-03-14 23:12:14] hmmmYea : sleger: the only thing you know about me is my opinion of your math skills.
[2017-03-14 23:12:22] sleger : Rado: at the very least, list the next 7d with 1d ahead @BitMEX_Greg
[2017-03-14 23:12:27] Sultan Pepper : Rapidtrades: thoughts on ethereum?
[2017-03-14 23:12:48] hmmmYea : BitMEX_Greg: ok thanks.
[2017-03-14 23:12:50] BitMEX_Greg : sleger: Yeah perhaps, the issue is we won't be able to convert ETH-> BTC unless we want to walk down the regulatory path
[2017-03-14 23:12:57] -_- : and will new BTC quarterly open same time as OKCoin quarterly BitMEX_Greg?
[2017-03-14 23:12:59] sleger : hmmmYea: oh like you came ahead of me from top french school ?
[2017-03-14 23:13:39] sleger : BitMEX_Greg: no its fine to keep it separated in a first step
[2017-03-14 23:13:59] Sultan Pepper : -_-: this friday, 12 utc
[2017-03-14 23:14:04] BitMEX_Greg : sleger: Something we can think about
[2017-03-14 23:14:05] hmmmYea : sleger: i dont know what that collection of words is supposed to communicate
[2017-03-14 23:14:10] BitMEX_Greg : -_-: This Friday
[2017-03-14 23:14:14] Rado : sleger: they want futures to be BTC denominated
[2017-03-14 23:14:36] -_- : BitMEX_Greg: yeah but same time as OKCoin quarterly or not? last time it was same time as OKC quarterly
[2017-03-14 23:14:48] Rado : wha are you going to do with your ETH when you deposit?
[2017-03-14 23:15:12] Sultan Pepper : -_-: 12 utc
[2017-03-14 23:16:07] sleger : hmmmYea: thanks for confirming
[2017-03-14 23:17:16] Sultan Pepper : -_-: and a new index
[2017-03-14 23:17:24] -_- : yeah
[2017-03-14 23:17:50] sleger : Rado: buy eth futures
[2017-03-14 23:17:54] level2 : what happend with futures of china50?
[2017-03-14 23:18:03] sleger : to make squared money again !!
[2017-03-14 23:18:04] -_- : https://www.worldcoinindex.com/coin/bitcoin
[2017-03-14 23:20:36] -_- : what way is ETH going to break
[2017-03-14 23:21:32] laisee : up for the down stroke
[2017-03-14 23:22:08] -_- : ETH walled up both ways on polo
[2017-03-14 23:22:59] PARAFFIN : going to buy some versache and gabana clothing
[2017-03-14 23:23:11] PARAFFIN : when btc goes 2000
[2017-03-14 23:23:22] PARAFFIN : who wanna join
[2017-03-14 23:23:45] sleger : -_-: no, there is no real wall, and they are far, its just empty book mostly
[2017-03-14 23:23:58] sleger : PARAFFIN: it's versace not cHe
[2017-03-14 23:24:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `DASH7D`: sell 300 @ 0.067983
[2017-03-14 23:24:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `DASH7D`: sell 20 @ 0.067794
[2017-03-14 23:24:59] KingTuna : ETH looks ok. Im holding my contracts . Prob let it expire in 2 days and buy again I guess
[2017-03-14 23:25:13] PARAFFIN : sleger: ok
[2017-03-14 23:25:28] sleger : PARAFFIN: be more classy, buy some loro piana, hermes, cucinelli or kiton napolu
[2017-03-14 23:25:33] sleger : *napoli
[2017-03-14 23:27:00] PARAFFIN : sleger: yea also good
[2017-03-14 23:27:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `DASH7D`: buy 2 @ 0.069392
[2017-03-14 23:27:02] PARAFFIN : xD
[2017-03-14 23:29:18] mendax090 : Dash is a disgrace to crypto
[2017-03-14 23:29:36] shiroe : it moves like jagger!
[2017-03-14 23:31:07] emcor : guys
[2017-03-14 23:31:21] emcor : do you think the rate hike by the fed tomorrow might influence bitcoin?
[2017-03-14 23:31:36] emcor : in theory dollar should get higher demand, so the bitcoin price go down
[2017-03-14 23:32:09] Ahhere : no shitcoin talk allowed here @emcor
[2017-03-14 23:32:24] Rado : emcor: doesn't work that way
[2017-03-14 23:32:58] Rado : Dollar has been going up for a year
[2017-03-14 23:33:05] Sultan Pepper : Ahhere: hahahah dollar == shitcoin
[2017-03-14 23:33:18] Ahhere : :D @Sultan Pepper
[2017-03-14 23:33:32] Rado : Not even a coun
[2017-03-14 23:33:43] sleger : emcor: no, zero, nada
[2017-03-14 23:33:44] Rado : coin
[2017-03-14 23:33:52] Rado : shit note
[2017-03-14 23:33:57] Sultan Pepper : Ahhere: UKoin pumping soon
[2017-03-14 23:34:15] Ahhere : Sultan Pepper: really? brexit happening or what now
[2017-03-14 23:34:15] supboye : how high is this dash nonsense gonna go?
[2017-03-14 23:34:32] sleger : supboye: ask that in polo trollbox
[2017-03-14 23:34:51] supboye : well you can, i am asking here
[2017-03-14 23:34:59] sleger : supboye: 0.2
[2017-03-14 23:35:04] sleger : or 0.25
[2017-03-14 23:35:06] sleger : or less
[2017-03-14 23:35:08] Apocalyptic : supboye: as high as the dev wants it to go before he cashes out
[2017-03-14 23:35:10] sleger : maybe more
[2017-03-14 23:35:10] Sultan Pepper : Ahhere: UK seceeding from the planet
[2017-03-14 23:35:20] sleger : there you have your answers, now go ask there @supboye
[2017-03-14 23:35:26] Ahhere : Sultan Pepper: bout time
[2017-03-14 23:35:46] supboye : na @sleger i am happy with those answers
[2017-03-14 23:35:58] hmmmYea : emcor: no. bitcoin has had a 30% range over the last week. no one cares about 25 basis points per year
[2017-03-14 23:36:04] sleger : some people are easy to please
[2017-03-14 23:36:30] Sultan Pepper : A quick tug usually does it
[2017-03-14 23:36:32] sleger : hmmmYea: that's absolutely NOT why btc isnt going to move on rates decision, worst logic ever
[2017-03-14 23:37:56] emcor : hmmmYea: it may not be the whole explanation but i think it makes sense
[2017-03-14 23:38:24] hmmmYea : sleger: ummmm.... yea it is.
[2017-03-14 23:38:57] -_- : oh damn
[2017-03-14 23:38:59] -_- : where is DASH going
[2017-03-14 23:39:18] -_- : did roger finally meet his match
[2017-03-14 23:39:19] sleger : hmmmYea: hmmmmNo, but it would take too long to fix you
[2017-03-14 23:39:20] hmmmYea : sleger: if bitcoins volatility was in line with gold, it would react to the fed decision
[2017-03-14 23:39:24] -_- : 0.07 was the magic number
[2017-03-14 23:39:27] sleger : emcor: nice try, but no need to save him
[2017-03-14 23:39:45] sleger : hmmmYea: so gold will react to fed decision, ok, by how much in each of either case ?
[2017-03-14 23:39:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `DASH7D`: sell 20 @ 0.067130
[2017-03-14 23:40:18] hmmmYea : sleger: of course it will.
[2017-03-14 23:40:28] Rado : Crash is going down
[2017-03-14 23:40:42] sleger : hmmmYea: how much if increase, how much if not ?
[2017-03-14 23:40:45] hmmmYea : sleger: if the fed is more dovish than expected it will go up, hawkish it will go fown
[2017-03-14 23:40:59] sleger : hmmmYea: no you said rates decision, its 0 or 1
[2017-03-14 23:41:04] hmmmYea : sleger: depends what people think of the statement
[2017-03-14 23:41:31] Rado : hmmmYea: in other words no one knows
[2017-03-14 23:41:46] sleger : hmmmYea: "emcor: guys do you think the rate hike by the fed tomorrow might influence bitcoin?"
[2017-03-14 23:41:50] hmmmYea : sleger: "fed decision" is a rate decision and the text of the statement
[2017-03-14 23:41:55] sleger : rate hike dummy
[2017-03-14 23:41:58] Ahhere : dash only coin not pumping yesterday and lone pumps today lol
[2017-03-14 23:42:00] sleger : i just quoted it above for you
[2017-03-14 23:42:12] sleger : hmmmYea: read above
[2017-03-14 23:42:22] hmmmYea : sleger: if the fed hikes by a surpirse 100 basis points gold will go down alot
[2017-03-14 23:42:35] sleger : lets assume its 25 or 0
[2017-03-14 23:42:38] sleger : which it is
[2017-03-14 23:43:07] Rado : sleger: you have a lot of patience lately
[2017-03-14 23:43:07] hmmmYea : sleger: you are an idiot
[2017-03-14 23:43:23] sleger : Rado: true, but he is ^^
[2017-03-14 23:43:25] Rado : Lol
[2017-03-14 23:43:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `DASH7D`: buy 20 @ 0.069068
[2017-03-14 23:43:37] -_- : lol DASH shorters
[2017-03-14 23:43:38] -_- : never learn
[2017-03-14 23:44:22] hmmmYea : sleger: if suprise no hike gold will rally.. if hike, it will be deendent on the statement
[2017-03-14 23:44:25] Rado : -_-: I have 4 short trades on DASH, all profitable
[2017-03-14 23:44:26] sleger : hmmmYea: let me guess you're a quant or IT in tier 2 bank ?
[2017-03-14 23:44:49] sleger : Rado: wow, good job ! here or polo ?
[2017-03-14 23:45:10] rapidgains : ^ lol
[2017-03-14 23:45:32] rapidgains : sleger: love when the noobs come in and think they own the place
[2017-03-14 23:45:41] hmmmYea : sleger: guess all you want
[2017-03-14 23:46:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `DASH7D`: sell 20 @ 0.068888
[2017-03-14 23:46:59] sleger : rapidgains: happens every day, i pick on them after 3 survival days, usually they are gone by 2 weeks, he is around that time...
[2017-03-14 23:46:59] shiroe : /rekt
[2017-03-14 23:46:59] trollbot : ``` 3 recent REKTs > 100K: ``` ``` 33 hours, 5 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 105892 @ 1231.14 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished: ``` ``` 75 hours, 32 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 233932 @ 1166.68 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire: ``` ``` 86 hours, 49 mins ago: Liquidated short on `XBTH17`: buy 235337 @ 1196.58 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire: ```
[2017-03-14 23:48:06] Sultan Pepper : sleger: how long until a user "has survived?"
[2017-03-14 23:48:16] sleger : Sultan Pepper: keeps chatting
[2017-03-14 23:48:42] sleger : rapid is the longest surviver, he used to have logic, but he went ONCE against it, he went against the trade, shorted 800.
[2017-03-14 23:49:00] sleger : Thank god for him, he sticks to his other rule, which is dont average a loser
[2017-03-14 23:49:08] sleger : otherwise he would have been rekt'ed
[2017-03-14 23:49:27] sleger : Sultan Pepper: Nobody survives forever
[2017-03-14 23:49:28] Sultan Pepper : His first rule?
[2017-03-14 23:49:32] -_- : i thought that was rapid getting rekt in the march spike to 1500
[2017-03-14 23:49:37] Sultan Pepper : dont short?
[2017-03-14 23:49:37] sleger : Sultan Pepper: follow the trend
[2017-03-14 23:49:41] rapidtrades : I actually added a short post-ETF so ur WRONG
[2017-03-14 23:49:45] Sultan Pepper : ah yeah
[2017-03-14 23:50:01] sleger : rapidtrades: oh you went against your second rule too ?
[2017-03-14 23:50:20] Sultan Pepper : rapidtrades: shorted the bottom of the dip?
[2017-03-14 23:50:24] sleger : you're a real NEWBS now then... and REKT will call you soon for a deep bottom search
[2017-03-14 23:50:25] rapidgains : march hi 1500?
[2017-03-14 23:50:28] rapidgains : lmao
[2017-03-14 23:50:31] shiroe : awww
[2017-03-14 23:50:45] rapidtrades : sleger: using my COIN profits bra
[2017-03-14 23:50:50] -_- : 1548 xbth17 hit
[2017-03-14 23:51:00] rapidgains : that chart
[2017-03-14 23:51:02] -_- : and a few hours later it hit 965
[2017-03-14 23:51:04] level2 : i have the DVD how to make millions of tim sykes anyone use this material?
[2017-03-14 23:51:04] Sultan Pepper : rapidtrades: oh yeah i shorted that too
[2017-03-14 23:51:04] sleger : rapidtrades: you made nothing on that, there was zero open position almost
[2017-03-14 23:51:25] rapidtrades : yeah, right
[2017-03-14 23:51:45] REKTer : Hi, I'm looking for "Rapid" ?
[2017-03-14 23:51:57] Sultan Pepper : level2: have you made millions yet?
[2017-03-14 23:52:04] sleger : rapidtrades: i made 300$ it was a joke there was zero liquidity
[2017-03-14 23:52:31] REKTer : rapidtrader hellooooo ? it's time....
[2017-03-14 23:52:40] rapidtrades : oh i made bit more than that....if u took odds >50% there was plenty of liquidity
[2017-03-14 23:52:42] Sultan Pepper : I made back that "tuition" i paid a while ago...
[2017-03-14 23:52:46] REKTer : oh I see you
[2017-03-14 23:53:02] sleger : rapidtrades: above 50 no not much
[2017-03-14 23:53:03] rapidgains : did coin spike during that runup to 1500
[2017-03-14 23:53:08] level2 : tim said that his student make millions
[2017-03-14 23:53:14] rapidtrades : they pushed and kept odds above 60% on last day
[2017-03-14 23:53:17] rapidtrades : u forget
[2017-03-14 23:53:19] sleger : but then maybe you are playing with a tiny balance overall, in case its not tiny for you
[2017-03-14 23:53:22] Sultan Pepper : level2: but have you?
[2017-03-14 23:53:27] -_- : rapidgains: hit 60 if i remember correctly
[2017-03-14 23:53:31] sleger : I saw the traded volume, it was a joke
[2017-03-14 23:54:00] level2 : not but i think that is true
[2017-03-14 23:54:09] sleger : and how's that short going, anyways ?
[2017-03-14 23:54:35] sleger : level2: tim ?
[2017-03-14 23:54:40] Sultan Pepper : level2: oh so he's convincing. You paid for this dvd?
[2017-03-14 23:55:57] rapidtrades : short is down a bit, i plan to dump half if we go much above the highs
[2017-03-14 23:56:02] level2 : i think that is true that he make money in trading and his student make money too
[2017-03-14 23:56:08] rapidtrades : so i can keep HODLing the short
[2017-03-14 23:56:46] sleger : level2: tim who?
[2017-03-14 23:56:56] Sultan Pepper : sleger: sykes
[2017-03-14 23:57:05] sleger : rapidtrades: drop it now, it was a wrong trade, cut losers quick
[2017-03-14 23:57:37] sleger : Sultan Pepper: @level2 why doesnt Tim work for Citadel, or two sigma, millenium etc....
[2017-03-14 23:58:21] Sultan Pepper : sleger: i'm not *for* this. I'm trying to get him to realize it's a scam
[2017-03-14 23:58:27] level2 : i think that the penny stocks you can trade more that 200 millons
[2017-03-14 23:58:30] sleger : of c its a scam
[2017-03-14 23:58:35] Sultan Pepper : level2: it's a scam
[2017-03-14 23:58:42] level2 : you can not use in fund
[2017-03-14 23:59:00] sleger : level2: dude, its a scam, less scammy is alejandro masari dineros, and that s wasting money too
[2017-03-14 23:59:12] level2 : why is scam?
[2017-03-14 23:59:34] sleger : level2: citadel trades ALL securities
[2017-03-14 23:59:37] sleger : penny stocks too
[2017-03-14 23:59:40] sleger : its a scam
[2017-03-15 00:00:33] level2 : tell me why is a scam how?
[2017-03-15 00:00:45] sleger : level2: it s very simple
[2017-03-15 00:00:48] sleger : im going to explain you
[2017-03-15 00:00:53] Sultan Pepper : level2: why would you tell everyone your yrading secrets?
[2017-03-15 00:00:56] sleger : go ahead, come cry later @level2
[2017-03-15 00:01:05] Sultan Pepper : once you do that, they don't work
[2017-03-15 00:01:50] sleger : level2: the guy cant make billions for himself, he would feel bad, so he shares secret money recipes, makes sense right, you shouldnt pass on it, go ahead, get rich, come tell us in a year how it went
[2017-03-15 00:01:52] level2 : for some student works
[2017-03-15 00:01:55] sleger : with love,
[2017-03-15 00:01:56] sleger : sleger
[2017-03-15 00:02:14] sleger : level2: dude, how dumb are you ?
[2017-03-15 00:02:21] Sultan Pepper : But you can spot a scam and profit from it with good timing.
[2017-03-15 00:02:22] REKT : Liquidated short on `DASH7D`: buy 1 @ 0.069919
[2017-03-15 00:02:26] rapidtrades : bra i didnt hodl into etf to dump now, not a weak hand
[2017-03-15 00:02:26] sleger : from a scale from forrest gump to a fly ?
[2017-03-15 00:02:31] Sultan Pepper : like dash
[2017-03-15 00:02:49] Sultan Pepper : REKT: good timing
[2017-03-15 00:03:19] -_- : awe i missed the DASH dip
[2017-03-15 00:03:26] -_- : onto 0.08
[2017-03-15 00:03:45] sleger : hey, after all, we should let natural selection do its duty, its there for a reason, its to get rid of people non fit to survive and not bring down the species by allowing the weak to survive
[2017-03-15 00:03:46] level2 : you dont say why is a scam
[2017-03-15 00:03:58] sleger : level2: you're right, it can work, go ahead
[2017-03-15 00:04:21] sleger : shout after me YEAAAAHHHHH
[2017-03-15 00:04:29] sleger : we're gonna be tich YEAAAHHHH
[2017-03-15 00:04:35] sleger : level2: feeling GOOD ?
[2017-03-15 00:04:40] sleger : YEAAAHHH
[2017-03-15 00:04:54] sleger : now go all in
[2017-03-15 00:05:28] level2 : if you are here is cuz think that you can money trading the same that said tim so ?
[2017-03-15 00:05:42] Sultan Pepper : sleger: this is why i have a problem with glasses
[2017-03-15 00:06:04] sleger : level2: I'm a portfolio manager for a large fund, I trade I dont sell
[2017-03-15 00:06:05] rapidtrades : if bitcorns can trade at +1250 with rejected ETF, possible fork, killed chynoya nad astronomic fees, then why not dash at $89? it makes just as much sense
[2017-03-15 00:06:11] Sultan Pepper : level2: i didnt pay for someone to tell me that
[2017-03-15 00:06:15] laisee : level2: in middle ages people used to sell phiiosophers stone, which could turn metals into gold. it was a *scam*. Can you see the similarity?
[2017-03-15 00:07:01] Sultan Pepper : laisee: can you still get those?
[2017-03-15 00:07:06] Sultan Pepper : ebay?
[2017-03-15 00:07:07] level2 : i dont say i pay you think that
[2017-03-15 00:07:11] laisee : sure, from a guy named Tim Sykes ...
[2017-03-15 00:07:29] sleger : level2: oh you will pay....
[2017-03-15 00:08:05] level2 : to tim?
[2017-03-15 00:08:14] laisee : no, to us
[2017-03-15 00:08:14] level2 : i dont pay nothing
[2017-03-15 00:08:26] sleger : oh so you pay something
[2017-03-15 00:08:36] sleger : if you dont pay nothin
[2017-03-15 00:08:39] sleger : right ?
[2017-03-15 00:08:53] sleger : or is that some kind of suburb special talk ?
[2017-03-15 00:09:02] Sultan Pepper : level2: you trading yet?
[2017-03-15 00:09:16] sleger : Sultan Pepper: dude dont stop him
[2017-03-15 00:09:17] level2 : lol i dont know you said i dont pay to anyone
[2017-03-15 00:09:20] sleger : he dont pay nothing
[2017-03-15 00:09:33] sleger : level2: right, you do"NT" pay "NO"thing
[2017-03-15 00:09:51] sleger : so what do you pay ?
[2017-03-15 00:10:03] Sultan Pepper : That ain't no grammer i *ever* heard
[2017-03-15 00:10:03] Apocalyptic : sleger: the welfare state suppressed natural selection
[2017-03-15 00:10:05] hmmmYea : sleger: what fund?
[2017-03-15 00:10:23] laisee : !nothing == something
[2017-03-15 00:10:44] Sultan Pepper : Everyone with glasses should have been weeded out by now!
[2017-03-15 00:10:46] laisee : hmmmYea: Mt Gox special opportunities fund
[2017-03-15 00:10:47] sleger : hmmmYea: i hope not the one where you check the booking of my trades
[2017-03-15 00:10:53] level2 : i only share the info about tim to know what others trader think about his works
[2017-03-15 00:11:16] sleger : level2: dude, if you believe in him, dont not go
[2017-03-15 00:11:18] laisee : so ... now you know
[2017-03-15 00:11:19] sleger : dont not do it
[2017-03-15 00:11:32] laisee : don't trade nothing
[2017-03-15 00:11:36] sleger : level2: dont let no oppportunity like that go by you
[2017-03-15 00:11:54] sleger : level2: it's not any opportunity of no life
[2017-03-15 00:12:19] jphamer1 : polo down
[2017-03-15 00:12:22] KingTuna : Does anyone listen to trading music?
[2017-03-15 00:12:35] KingTuna : Music whilst they trade
[2017-03-15 00:12:39] sleger : jphamer1: yeah
[2017-03-15 00:12:50] sleger : KingTuna: mozart is best
[2017-03-15 00:12:59] jphamer1 : first time i ever saw polo down
[2017-03-15 00:13:00] Sultan Pepper : https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bloomberg.com/amp/news/articles/2015-03-18/penny-stock-guru-tim-sykes-embraces-role-of-rich-douche-bag-
[2017-03-15 00:13:12] sleger : jphamer1: back
[2017-03-15 00:13:38] -_- : big DASH dump
[2017-03-15 00:13:44] -_- : of course mm gone
[2017-03-15 00:14:45] sleger : is level1 still counting the double negatives ?
[2017-03-15 00:15:15] Apocalyptic : can't wait for level3
[2017-03-15 00:15:21] Sultan Pepper : He don't no
[2017-03-15 00:15:26] laisee : he is counting opportunity cost of not trading nothing
[2017-03-15 00:15:31] sleger : Sultan Pepper: lol
[2017-03-15 00:16:20] Sultan Pepper : laisee: seems it *could* be profitable
[2017-03-15 00:16:46] laisee : couldn't not ever be not unprofitable
[2017-03-15 00:16:47] sleger : i think there isnt no chance
[2017-03-15 00:17:19] thxforyourbtc! : why does xbth17 say settlement in 16 days? Isnt it march.17?
[2017-03-15 00:17:22] sleger : and as always, instead of thanking me, he disappeared....
[2017-03-15 00:17:35] sleger : thxforyourbtc!: yes its marrch 17
[2017-03-15 00:17:57] sleger : also known as march 2017
[2017-03-15 00:18:05] sleger : which is not the 20th of march 17 though
[2017-03-15 00:18:23] Sultan Pepper : :D
[2017-03-15 00:18:32] sleger : it works like most futures in the world basicallly
[2017-03-15 00:18:36] laisee : its not ever been not march 31
[2017-03-15 00:18:38] sleger : with 3 L
[2017-03-15 00:18:43] thxforyourbtc! : Ok so does it settle in 16 days? Or in 3 days?
[2017-03-15 00:18:47] sleger : yes
[2017-03-15 00:19:03] laisee : what does theta say?
[2017-03-15 00:19:29] theta : I say yes too !
[2017-03-15 00:19:39] Apocalyptic : thxforyourbtc!: why don't you spend 1 seconds reading the contract info
[2017-03-15 00:19:39] thxforyourbtc! : sleger: ? 16days or 3 days?
[2017-03-15 00:19:41] laisee : cool. all the greeks are with us ...
[2017-03-15 00:19:47] sleger : thxforyourbtc!: YES!!!
[2017-03-15 00:19:49] Sultan Pepper : aright alright alright. BBC or USA version of "The Office?"
[2017-03-15 00:19:56] ripcord : thxforyourbtc!: holy shit
[2017-03-15 00:20:02] Ahhere : Sultan Pepper: both
[2017-03-15 00:20:03] laisee : BBC is bestest
[2017-03-15 00:20:27] laisee : rated in number of awkward moments per show
[2017-03-15 00:20:35] Sultan Pepper : i'm half into bbc after just finishing off usa
[2017-03-15 00:20:37] ripcord : it says it settles in 16 days...why would it settle in 3?
[2017-03-15 00:20:59] sleger : black holes ?
[2017-03-15 00:21:08] ripcord : that's correct
[2017-03-15 00:21:09] sleger : there isnt no black hole !!
[2017-03-15 00:21:11] laisee : time keeps slipping into the future
[2017-03-15 00:21:20] Sultan Pepper : Don't you people get email?
[2017-03-15 00:21:29] sleger : black holes like double negatives !!
[2017-03-15 00:21:50] REKTer : Hi I'm theta, is someone lost in time ?
[2017-03-15 00:21:54] etoque : damn dash 20k less here
[2017-03-15 00:21:59] etoque : 200k
[2017-03-15 00:22:02] thxforyourbtc! : sleger: curious, do u support segwit or BU?
[2017-03-15 00:22:03] laisee : ripcord: https://www.bitmex.com/app/contract/XBTH17
[2017-03-15 00:22:20] sleger : thxforyourbtc!: depends if im long or short at the time
[2017-03-15 00:22:21] etoque : someone should buy them all and withdrawl coin to sell on polo lol
[2017-03-15 00:22:39] thxforyourbtc! : sleger: lol cmon in general. For the future of bitcoin.
[2017-03-15 00:22:42] ripcord : laisee: i'm not confused
[2017-03-15 00:22:57] sleger : thxforyourbtc!: i support ETH for the future of bitcoin
[2017-03-15 00:23:05] thxforyourbtc! : sleger: interesting
[2017-03-15 00:23:12] laisee : ripcord: yes
[2017-03-15 00:23:12] Sultan Pepper : Seriously?
[2017-03-15 00:23:17] thxforyourbtc! : sleger: im still a btc maximalist and support segwit
[2017-03-15 00:23:24] ripcord : laisee: not no
[2017-03-15 00:23:28] sleger : thxforyourbtc!: segwit isnt bad
[2017-03-15 00:24:09] Sultan Pepper : sleger: oh. Nvm, i found the loophole in your comment
[2017-03-15 00:24:20] level2 : all the studens of tim are fake?all the trades too?
[2017-03-15 00:24:34] sleger : level2: no its'all real and good, roses and petals
[2017-03-15 00:24:41] laisee : yup. and he prolly stole the content
[2017-03-15 00:25:06] sleger : level2: let me say that : I am 99% confident, at least 1 of his student made a killing from trading, for realz
[2017-03-15 00:25:08] Apocalyptic : thxforyourbtc!: at least someone is sane here
[2017-03-15 00:25:18] Sultan Pepper : level2: do it and report back, see if someone interviews you
[2017-03-15 00:25:37] level2 : so you said that nobody can make money trading penny stocks?
[2017-03-15 00:25:49] sleger : level2: I just didnt say that
[2017-03-15 00:25:53] laisee : level2: share your trading strategy here and we will guide you
[2017-03-15 00:26:04] sleger : level2: read : " sleger: level2: let me say that : I am 99% confident, at least 1 of his student made a killing from trading, for realz"
[2017-03-15 00:26:04] rapidtrades : u talking about tim skykes or whatver hes name is
[2017-03-15 00:26:17] sleger : rapidtrades: level -2 is yes
[2017-03-15 00:26:25] Sultan Pepper : sleger: like bitcoin doublers
[2017-03-15 00:26:34] rapidtrades : he seems like the 'i make $ by teaching not trading' type
[2017-03-15 00:26:47] sleger : Sultan Pepper: 90% have made money once, its different
[2017-03-15 00:27:02] sleger : rapidtrades: sht dont discourage him
[2017-03-15 00:27:05] rapidtrades : all his records are on a trade-publishing site he made so highly dubious
[2017-03-15 00:27:05] Sultan Pepper : Ooooh
[2017-03-15 00:27:10] Apocalyptic : rapidtrades: shocking
[2017-03-15 00:27:27] sleger : rapidtrades: does he teach to go against the trade ? or double down ? or buy zec at 3 ?
[2017-03-15 00:27:50] DorianWhack-A-Moto : wtf dash. still not dead.
[2017-03-15 00:27:58] rapidtrades : no his basics seem solid but i hvan't paid for his shit
[2017-03-15 00:28:06] sleger : rapidtrades: with ETH i'm up close to 1m$ YTD
[2017-03-15 00:28:26] sleger : in 2.5 months
[2017-03-15 00:28:32] rapidtrades : but there's a lot from basics to making 1mil from 100k in a year like some of his students claim
[2017-03-15 00:28:34] Sultan Pepper : sleger: dayum
[2017-03-15 00:29:00] DorianWhack-A-Moto : sleger: why are you here? go have a holiday
[2017-03-15 00:29:12] sleger : DorianWhack-A-Moto: dude i cant live on 1m per year
[2017-03-15 00:29:31] DorianWhack-A-Moto : be more frugal lol
[2017-03-15 00:29:37] Sultan Pepper : I mean you *could*
[2017-03-15 00:29:37] ripcord : not if you have to pay $2.50 fees you can't
[2017-03-15 00:29:39] rapidtrades : isn't ur apartment like 6k per month? how can u not live on 1mil
[2017-03-15 00:29:42] sleger : im sorry i dont understand @DorianWhack-A-Moto
[2017-03-15 00:29:59] Sultan Pepper : rapidtrades: $10k
[2017-03-15 00:30:01] rapidtrades : my maths say that's 166 monthly rents
[2017-03-15 00:30:02] DorianWhack-A-Moto : trade your mocha choco lattes for instant
[2017-03-15 00:30:08] sleger : rapidtrades: a bit more ....
[2017-03-15 00:30:24] level2 : sleger do you thinks that the serie Billions is like it work in real world?
[2017-03-15 00:30:28] DorianWhack-A-Moto : eat ramen instead of caviar
[2017-03-15 00:30:29] rapidtrades : are u rly paying 10k for an apartment?
[2017-03-15 00:30:32] sleger : DorianWhack-A-Moto: cutting down on cappucinos could help
[2017-03-15 00:30:46] sleger : rapidtrades: thats not bad, my ex boss is at 60k$ per month in nyc
[2017-03-15 00:30:56] -_- : for a studio
[2017-03-15 00:30:59] DorianWhack-A-Moto : i drink too many cappuccinos. not even rich.
[2017-03-15 00:31:14] Sultan Pepper : sleger: are you tim sykes?
[2017-03-15 00:31:18] sleger : level2: billions, lol, no the closest is probably steve cohen, but he doesnt look like that
[2017-03-15 00:31:22] Sultan Pepper : and level1?
[2017-03-15 00:31:27] rapidtrades : do u even NEED to live in London bra? like wtf u trade online
[2017-03-15 00:31:36] sleger : rapidtrades: i dont need too now
[2017-03-15 00:31:38] sleger : no
[2017-03-15 00:31:48] sleger : but where would i live
[2017-03-15 00:31:57] sleger : also dont forget its close to 50% tax
[2017-03-15 00:32:01] Sultan Pepper : Ibiza
[2017-03-15 00:32:05] level2 : all use inside information to trade?
[2017-03-15 00:32:05] Sultan Pepper : isle of mann
[2017-03-15 00:32:05] laisee : monaco
[2017-03-15 00:32:13] sleger : level2: steve cohen did
[2017-03-15 00:32:23] DorianWhack-A-Moto : any south east asian country with fast internet
[2017-03-15 00:32:27] sleger : laisee: i cant really live there because im french, tax treaty doesnt apply
[2017-03-15 00:32:32] sleger : i looked into it
[2017-03-15 00:32:34] Sultan Pepper : level2: yes we're all insiders
[2017-03-15 00:32:54] sleger : Sultan Pepper: isle of man, lol, and die
[2017-03-15 00:32:55] laisee : bugger. perhaps try an ex-oil rig in north sea
[2017-03-15 00:33:04] ripcord : Malta
[2017-03-15 00:33:09] sleger : ripcord: i cant
[2017-03-15 00:33:10] DorianWhack-A-Moto : yeah malta
[2017-03-15 00:33:13] sleger : theres rapid there in malta
[2017-03-15 00:33:15] Sultan Pepper : sleger: but cool races!
[2017-03-15 00:33:17] rapidtrades : malta has 'low' taxes cos ur not paying for money that u don't bring in the country
[2017-03-15 00:33:18] sleger : he will find me
[2017-03-15 00:33:22] rapidtrades : BUT its boring as hell
[2017-03-15 00:33:33] laisee : HK or SIngapore. No taxes on offshore earnings
[2017-03-15 00:33:49] sleger : laisee: singapore is boring
[2017-03-15 00:33:51] ripcord : sleger: ah, excellent point
[2017-03-15 00:33:56] rapidtrades : malta is rly small and u get used to it after few months
[2017-03-15 00:34:06] laisee : yes. quite boring but there is an airport
[2017-03-15 00:34:09] rapidtrades : if ur used to living in London it will be a hard change
[2017-03-15 00:34:19] sleger : taking coffee with rapid and talking about bitcoins..... hmmmm
[2017-03-15 00:34:32] Sultan Pepper : sleger: Omegna
[2017-03-15 00:34:36] laisee : and comparing SHORT strategies ...
[2017-03-15 00:34:49] sleger : laisee: short dash is superior
[2017-03-15 00:35:00] laisee : heh. u say that now.
[2017-03-15 00:35:06] sleger : i havent entered yet
[2017-03-15 00:35:12] sleger : but I will
[2017-03-15 00:35:14] sleger : big time
[2017-03-15 00:35:38] ripcord : I bought the DASH koolaid...can we get one more pump?
[2017-03-15 00:35:41] laisee : DASh will die a horrible, lingering death ... oh, yes ;-)
[2017-03-15 00:35:54] sleger : 600m market cap, wth
[2017-03-15 00:35:55] DorianWhack-A-Moto : take profit on dash while you can. wont last forever
[2017-03-15 00:36:12] sleger : level2: still going to invest with Tom ?
[2017-03-15 00:36:18] rapidtrades : they keep pumping and dumping all these anon coins
[2017-03-15 00:36:32] rapidtrades : first it was XMR then ZEC now Dash
[2017-03-15 00:36:35] level2 : i dont invest with tim
[2017-03-15 00:36:57] laisee : rapidtrades: why do you think BTC is any different?
[2017-03-15 00:37:23] rapidtrades : it seems like a fad
[2017-03-15 00:37:30] sleger : 20bn market cap
[2017-03-15 00:37:32] sleger : ?
[2017-03-15 00:38:23] laisee : 20bn aint not nothing
[2017-03-15 00:38:28] rapidtrades : talking bout the anoncoins
[2017-03-15 00:38:44] Rado : rapidtrades: agree on the alt coins
[2017-03-15 00:38:45] sleger : 20bn is something
[2017-03-15 00:38:49] Rado : they are pump and dumps
[2017-03-15 00:38:59] Rado : until a real economy start using them
[2017-03-15 00:39:24] sleger : Rado: yes except for eth, they have support from a trillion market cap companies
[2017-03-15 00:39:58] rapidtrades : if these anoncoins take over black markets then bitcoin will lose one of its biggest uses as currency
[2017-03-15 00:40:03] Rado : sleger: That's good, but until the applications are live and working it means nothing
[2017-03-15 00:40:11] Rado : I think the best chance for the first one is Augur
[2017-03-15 00:40:18] DorianWhack-A-Moto : rapidtrades: xmr already being used on largest darknet market
[2017-03-15 00:40:26] DorianWhack-A-Moto : dash being used nowhere
[2017-03-15 00:40:31] rapidtrades : exclusively or with BTC?
[2017-03-15 00:40:32] DorianWhack-A-Moto : doesn't make sense
[2017-03-15 00:40:38] sleger : Rado: I dont rely on augur for eth success
[2017-03-15 00:40:38] DorianWhack-A-Moto : rapidtrades: no with btc