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[2017-03-14 03:16:06] etoque : lbc?
[2017-03-14 03:16:10] rapidtrades : InvalidUser: Last week, the European Parliament proposed additional amendments meant to regulate digital currency businesses, adding a multitude of business categories, specifically disallowing anonymity.?
[2017-03-14 03:16:31] etoque : local bitcoin
[2017-03-14 03:16:32] etoque : ah
[2017-03-14 03:16:55] InvalidUser : rapidtrades: I wish them the best of luck in that
[2017-03-14 03:17:00] etoque : I wonder if I should buy more or close my long and start a short,damn btc
[2017-03-14 03:17:17] etoque : what u do btc
[2017-03-14 03:17:35] ripcord : buy more
[2017-03-14 03:17:45] etoque : thats a risky business
[2017-03-14 03:17:49] etoque : but no reward without risk
[2017-03-14 03:19:10] ripcord : stop 1230
[2017-03-14 03:20:18] tb : btc about to moon
[2017-03-14 03:20:24] tb : 2k tomorrow
[2017-03-14 03:20:24] InvalidUser : /\
[2017-03-14 03:20:55] ripcord : that seems reasonable
[2017-03-14 03:21:00] etoque : If only lol
[2017-03-14 03:21:04] tb : better 130x long when XBTM17 gets listed
[2017-03-14 03:21:50] ripcord : are they doing 130x?
[2017-03-14 03:22:23] etoque : can we 200x already here ?
[2017-03-14 03:22:42] tb : You can 200x
[2017-03-14 03:22:49] thedukedog : how
[2017-03-14 03:22:50] tb : when your 100x long is about to be liquidated
[2017-03-14 03:22:53] tb : it becomes 200x
[2017-03-14 03:22:57] InvalidUser : There is a point when the price goes parabolic where you are dumb if you sell your coins. When we get 60 daily green candles in a row you will all have to make this choice.
[2017-03-14 03:24:01] ripcord : so when do you sell?
[2017-03-14 03:24:16] etoque : never I guess
[2017-03-14 03:24:25] etoque : we will just finish using btc everyday
[2017-03-14 03:24:53] etoque : :D
[2017-03-14 03:25:02] InvalidUser : ripcord: If you trade here you never will have to sell
[2017-03-14 03:25:21] InvalidUser : If you look at any chart the smart game with BTC has been to hold
[2017-03-14 03:25:52] InvalidUser : There is no other way to interpret that chart
[2017-03-14 03:26:00] micmix : ripcord: don't sell ever, if bitcoin goes to zero you'll just uninstall your wallet app. much easier than selling and withdrawing fiat
[2017-03-14 03:26:12] etoque : lol
[2017-03-14 03:26:47] ripcord : ah yes
[2017-03-14 03:26:56] Sultan Pepper : micmix: but short it to zero here, so you have a WHOLE LOT of worthless coin
[2017-03-14 03:27:15] ripcord : lol
[2017-03-14 03:27:28] micmix : infinite number of non-existing coins worth exactly zero, nice
[2017-03-14 03:27:51] InvalidUser : Guess who is bearish on BTC /\
[2017-03-14 03:28:11] micmix : theoretically we can have more than 21 million coins on our account on bitmex
[2017-03-14 03:28:24] InvalidUser : we are paper trading
[2017-03-14 03:28:42] Apocalyptic : Sultan Pepper: I wonder who would sell them to you for 0.00
[2017-03-14 03:28:57] Farzad : micmix: Hi I have a question regarding REKT bot
[2017-03-14 03:29:13] micmix : Farzad: sure
[2017-03-14 03:29:14] Farzad : are u sending each REKT message individually ?
[2017-03-14 03:29:29] micmix : yes
[2017-03-14 03:29:33] Farzad : or is it possible that you group them some times ?
[2017-03-14 03:29:46] micmix : let me double-check the code
[2017-03-14 03:29:49] Farzad : ty
[2017-03-14 03:30:31] j8 : you can have more that 21 million coins in position value but not in UPL or margin balance
[2017-03-14 03:30:56] micmix : j8: is margin balance limited?
[2017-03-14 03:31:06] Sultan Pepper : Apocalyptic: it's like when i logged in after etf dump. I went to sell any straggling dummies' orders but there was only one buy for 0.01. I left it, like everyone before me
[2017-03-14 03:31:27] j8 : well since DPE is gone, someone else's coins are backing any PNL
[2017-03-14 03:31:28] Sultan Pepper : on COIN
[2017-03-14 03:31:48] Apocalyptic : Sultan Pepper: yeah I saw that
[2017-03-14 03:31:48] thedukedog : dpe?
[2017-03-14 03:31:54] j8 : they would necessarily be ADL'd before your pnl was 21 million
[2017-03-14 03:32:02] micmix : j8: oh yeah, you are right
[2017-03-14 03:32:25] micmix : I guess I will have to use okc to get more than 21 million coins lol
[2017-03-14 03:32:29] Sultan Pepper : Apocalyptic: i wonder if anyone sold it...
[2017-03-14 03:32:34] j8 : yes it's possible there :)
[2017-03-14 03:33:01] j8 : you could even releverage your 21 million at 20x
[2017-03-14 03:33:14] micmix : lol
[2017-03-14 03:34:11] Sultan Pepper : This hurts to think about
[2017-03-14 03:34:20] Sultan Pepper : like a snake eating its tail
[2017-03-14 03:34:43] Farzad : micmix: did u check the code ?
[2017-03-14 03:34:58] BarefootFlash : Sultan Pepper: Haha
[2017-03-14 03:36:57] InvalidUser : ETC trying to make a move
[2017-03-14 03:38:09] micmix : Farzad: REKT posts each message separately (one API call per REKT message). But I think they are grouped together on the server anyway.
[2017-03-14 03:38:11] micmix : like this
[2017-03-14 03:38:19] micmix : this is 3 different API calls
[2017-03-14 03:38:54] Farzad : OK got it thanks.
[2017-03-14 03:40:05] thedukedog : did you write it?
[2017-03-14 03:40:18] Farzad : he did
[2017-03-14 03:40:24] thedukedog : nice I like
[2017-03-14 03:40:42] thedukedog : did you self learn api or have sa good free resource?
[2017-03-14 03:41:04] j8 : actually, you couldn't have close to a 21 million btc position either with the risk limits, you would need 21 billion btc initial margin
[2017-03-14 03:41:26] micmix : Bitmex has a very nice and clean API, if you are a programmer it's very easy to use
[2017-03-14 03:42:24] j8 : and you would still get liquidated on 0.5% move
[2017-03-14 03:43:27] micmix : j8: maybe when you open a position it's only couple hundred btc. anyway you'll get adl'd way before it grows to any signigicant size
[2017-03-14 03:43:37] micmix : *significant
[2017-03-14 03:44:43] j8 : thats true, it's weird that you go over the risk limit when the price goes down
[2017-03-14 03:45:04] micmix : I'm actually not sure what happens when you open a position with one risk limit and it's xbt value grows past the risk limit. maybe additional margin is reserved automatically?
[2017-03-14 03:46:30] Apocalyptic : micmix: I think Sam answered a similar question a while back, it doesn't change the margin requirements but you can't add to the position without changing it
[2017-03-14 03:46:49] micmix : Apocalyptic: I see, thanks
[2017-03-14 03:47:12] Apocalyptic : np
[2017-03-14 03:47:49] InvalidUser : BItflyer has no idea what it is doing today
[2017-03-14 03:48:05] Apocalyptic : the markets are quite stable tonight, not that I'm complaining
[2017-03-14 03:48:58] etoque : ahhh
[2017-03-14 03:49:01] etoque : btc look great now
[2017-03-14 03:49:07] etoque : lol
[2017-03-14 03:49:35] BitMEX_John : micmix: you will only be able to make your position smaller unless you increase your risk limit as @Apocalyptic suggested
[2017-03-14 03:50:03] Blemo : can ayone tell me the best resource to start learn and earning in day trading asap im fucking nub
[2017-03-14 03:50:50] InvalidUser : I use a lucky 8 ball
[2017-03-14 03:51:42] Blemo : k i got rekt can u send me some btc plz i wana try ur way
[2017-03-14 03:52:17] Blemo : 3BMEXjmkpYAuPppBgWhvqHturpZ3vwojZ1
[2017-03-14 03:52:31] Blemo : thhankksssss
[2017-03-14 03:54:26] BarefootFlash : Blemo: Youtube has some basic tutorials
[2017-03-14 03:55:10] Blemo : something particular i should search up?
[2017-03-14 03:55:13] Blemo : BarefootFlash: thanks
[2017-03-14 03:55:21] micmix : Blemo: you lost only 0.06565903 btc, you'll have to lose much more before anyone sends you some coins
[2017-03-14 03:55:34] Blemo : that was all my money
[2017-03-14 03:55:37] Blemo : i have
[2017-03-14 03:55:41] Blemo : like period
[2017-03-14 03:55:49] Blemo : dont wanna explain why
[2017-03-14 03:56:21] Blemo : i was just being dumb and gambling
[2017-03-14 03:56:24] micmix : please don't gamble with all your money
[2017-03-14 03:56:30] Blemo : i deserved it anyway
[2017-03-14 03:56:52] Blemo : i didnt even realize iw as cuz i didnt fully know how to do this
[2017-03-14 03:57:24] Blemo : ive lost at least 2-3 thousadn actually gambling
[2017-03-14 03:57:30] Apocalyptic : micmix: how did you know the amount ?
[2017-03-14 03:57:44] BarefootFlash : Start simple. Look up beginner day trading" or something like that
[2017-03-14 03:57:52] micmix : Apocalyptic: blockchain.info
[2017-03-14 03:58:07] BarefootFlash : micmix: Haha
[2017-03-14 03:58:24] micmix : bitmex uses your own balance for withdrawals until it's empty
[2017-03-14 03:58:32] BarefootFlash : Blemo: And never trade with more than you're willing to lose. Even the best can lose it all
[2017-03-14 03:58:45] Apocalyptic : micmix: didn't knew that, good insight
[2017-03-14 03:58:57] Blemo : ya i know i honestly wouldnt have lost it some stupid shit just happened to me
[2017-03-14 03:59:54] KingTuna : hmm I really am looking into ETC... Never traded this one before, so not sure how it behaves? ETH I have traded a bunch!
[2017-03-14 04:00:00] KingTuna : Anyone have any pointers?
[2017-03-14 04:04:01] tb : buy
[2017-03-14 04:04:05] tb : it's mooning currently
[2017-03-14 04:07:18] BitMEX_John : micmix: @Apocalyptic @Blemo you will only lose the margin allocated to a position
[2017-03-14 04:07:54] KingTuna : tb: Typically one doesn
[2017-03-14 04:08:01] BitMEX_John : micmix: @Apocalyptic @Blemo your whole available balance will be used if you are on cross leverage, otherwise (if you are on isolated) you will only lose what you allocate
[2017-03-14 04:08:11] KingTuna : tb: Typically one doesn't buy at the top in pumps lol
[2017-03-14 04:08:27] rapidtrades : ppl already begging? we're barely off the highs
[2017-03-14 04:08:42] rapidtrades : longs getting more and more levered it seems
[2017-03-14 04:09:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `FCT7D`: sell 12 @ 0.003294
[2017-03-14 04:09:16] Apocalyptic : rapidtrades: and you're even getting paid the next funding
[2017-03-14 04:09:29] rapidtrades : no way
[2017-03-14 04:09:36] Apocalyptic : way bru
[2017-03-14 04:09:42] KingTuna : rapidtrades: Barely off or barely nearly the highs?
[2017-03-14 04:09:51] rapidtrades : dam a whole 0.0066%
[2017-03-14 04:10:08] Apocalyptic : beats giving money, any day
[2017-03-14 04:10:12] rapidtrades : i'll try to not spend it all in one place
[2017-03-14 04:10:25] Apocalyptic : maybe yolo it x100 like our friend here
[2017-03-14 04:10:59] rapidtrades : litecoin pump signals bitcoin death
[2017-03-14 04:11:37] Apocalyptic : last time I touched LTC, it was trading around 0.00555
[2017-03-14 04:11:54] Blemo : is there anyway som1 can lend me some intenet moni
[2017-03-14 04:11:55] Apocalyptic : should have kept my short longer it seems
[2017-03-14 04:13:20] etoque : hm
[2017-03-14 04:13:28] etoque : look good
[2017-03-14 04:13:33] etoque : just a dips
[2017-03-14 04:14:29] rapidtrades : https://news.bitcoin.com/bitcoin-miner-repays-customer-who-accidentally-paid-2-5-bitcoins-transaction-fee/
[2017-03-14 04:15:11] etoque : uhm
[2017-03-14 04:15:12] etoque : i refrain
[2017-03-14 04:15:17] etoque : btc look pushing it down
[2017-03-14 04:15:23] etoque : 1200 may come
[2017-03-14 04:18:39] rapidtrades : are there no coders here to make script for me?
[2017-03-14 04:19:18] rapidtrades : lazy sobs
[2017-03-14 04:21:43] Apocalyptic : rapidtrades: Farzad is a coder
[2017-03-14 04:22:53] etoque : short btc
[2017-03-14 04:23:42] Blemo : cn som one plz send .001 btc
[2017-03-14 04:23:56] Blemo : 3BMEXjmkpYAuPppBgWhvqHturpZ3vwojZ1
[2017-03-14 04:24:49] BarefootFlash : Blemo: You could always go click some btc faucets ^_^
[2017-03-14 04:27:26] rapidtrades : Blemo: get a job bra, it will be much faster to get a bankroll going
[2017-03-14 04:27:46] rapidtrades : you'll never turn 0.001 btc into smth meaningful
[2017-03-14 04:27:58] etoque : here we go
[2017-03-14 04:30:46] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBJH17`: sell 10000 @ 147563
[2017-03-14 04:34:06] InvalidUser : This is called the Bitcoin shuffle
[2017-03-14 04:35:12] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 1214 @ 1237.28
[2017-03-14 04:39:47] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 100 @ 1235.90
[2017-03-14 04:39:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 2500 @ 1235.61
[2017-03-14 04:40:38] Buba : Anyone wanna sell their house, buy some coins and move the freaking price up a bit? Lol
[2017-03-14 04:41:51] InvalidUser : As you wish.
[2017-03-14 04:47:24] Blemo : rapidtrades: i had a job, managment was fucked and accused me of stealing without even looking at cameras so i instantly left
[2017-03-14 04:47:32] Blemo : now im waiting for government money
[2017-03-14 04:48:08] Blemo : ive had a good amount of jobs
[2017-03-14 04:49:18] etoque : price can still crash to 1100 range
[2017-03-14 04:53:03] rapidtrades : dude ZEC is barely up and so many alts doubled past few days
[2017-03-14 04:53:07] rapidtrades : move it u pos coin
[2017-03-14 04:56:04] etoque : not ready
[2017-03-14 04:56:14] etoque : zec have special mining scheme
[2017-03-14 05:06:54] KyllingLolsson : /sentiment
[2017-03-14 05:06:57] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 79.16 / 20.84 Daily : 51.92 / 48.08 Weekly : 50.55 / 49.45 Monthly : 50.23 / 49.77```
[2017-03-14 05:20:28] InvalidUser : Decent sized buy wall on finx
[2017-03-14 05:23:51] oscaretc : hi, any speak spanish
[2017-03-14 05:23:53] oscaretc : ?
[2017-03-14 05:25:05] j8 : yo quiero taco bell
[2017-03-14 05:29:41] javierstone : when does new quarterly come out
[2017-03-14 05:34:57] BitMEX_John : javierstone: this Friday the 17th of March at 12:00 UTC
[2017-03-14 05:40:47] KingTuna : ETHereum ... Right on time.. Let it top 0.025 and then it can head to 0.03
[2017-03-14 05:41:56] rapidtrades : nice new quaterly! time to cash in on the dumb longs
[2017-03-14 05:41:57] etoque : lol
[2017-03-14 05:42:10] etoque : if you buy on bitmex u take in consideration 500 btc will be eaten on polo
[2017-03-14 05:42:13] etoque : that's stupid
[2017-03-14 05:42:17] etoque : who buy so high?
[2017-03-14 05:42:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: buy 18 @ 0.023650
[2017-03-14 05:42:55] etoque : fuck off stupid market maker
[2017-03-14 05:43:17] etoque : there's a shitload on poloniex to 0.0234
[2017-03-14 05:44:34] etoque : buy buy buy eth
[2017-03-14 05:45:10] etoque : lol dick head
[2017-03-14 05:45:46] etoque : and watch it crash to 0.0215 now LOL
[2017-03-14 05:49:38] etoque : or not
[2017-03-14 05:56:26] KingTuna : ETH doing just fine thanks
[2017-03-14 06:03:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 16 @ 1233.77
[2017-03-14 06:04:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 1863 @ 1225.72
[2017-03-14 06:04:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 2900 @ 1225.39
[2017-03-14 06:05:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 6010 @ 1223.88
[2017-03-14 06:05:42] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 900 @ 1232.05
[2017-03-14 06:05:42] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 3858 @ 1231.52
[2017-03-14 06:05:42] REKT : Abandon the ship!
[2017-03-14 06:05:57] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 336 @ 1231.09
[2017-03-14 06:07:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 69028 @ 1230.21 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2017-03-14 06:07:56] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 1240 @ 1229.76
[2017-03-14 06:08:56] etoque : I call it for btc lol
[2017-03-14 06:11:25] KingTuna : Called what? Hardly a dump lol
[2017-03-14 06:13:51] etoque : [00:22] etoque: short btc
[2017-03-14 06:14:17] etoque : 1100-1200
[2017-03-14 06:15:16] KingTuna : Currently 1230
[2017-03-14 06:15:31] etoque : slowly declining,29...28
[2017-03-14 06:15:45] KingTuna : Everyone a fortune teller here lol
[2017-03-14 06:15:46] etoque : dont fight against wave lol
[2017-03-14 06:17:17] etoque : gooo etc n eth
[2017-03-14 06:23:06] jonny : why
[2017-03-14 06:23:30] jonny : eth looks high
[2017-03-14 06:23:36] jonny : no?
[2017-03-14 06:24:40] etoque : nah
[2017-03-14 06:25:19] jonny : they are top of this list again
[2017-03-14 06:25:20] jonny : http://www.coinwarz.com/cryptocurrency
[2017-03-14 06:25:39] jonny : it means miners dont trust the price, does it?;)
[2017-03-14 06:26:28] etoque : this site isn't revelant
[2017-03-14 06:26:37] etoque : most of time inexact
[2017-03-14 06:27:19] jonny : oh, isnt it?
[2017-03-14 06:27:51] jonny : ;)
[2017-03-14 06:32:57] KingTuna : Who gives a shit about some list lol
[2017-03-14 06:33:12] KingTuna : It's going up.. The market is bubbling, just buy
[2017-03-14 06:33:55] jonny : KingTuna: @etoque you dont give a shit about data?
[2017-03-14 06:34:00] KingTuna : Just eat a prune and wake up in June and you will be fine
[2017-03-14 06:34:06] jonny : KingTuna: "bubbling does not imply a direction
[2017-03-14 06:34:09] etoque : jonny: what you mean?
[2017-03-14 06:35:01] etoque : ah you talk to him lol
[2017-03-14 06:39:58] javierstone : @bitmex_sam
[2017-03-14 06:40:06] javierstone : when does the next btc quarterly come out
[2017-03-14 06:42:51] jonny : etoque: @KingTuna eth drop maybe just paused because of btc drop
[2017-03-14 06:47:31] BitMEX_John : javierstone: it comes out this Friday the 17th of March
[2017-03-14 06:47:49] BitMEX_John : javierstone: at 12:00 UTC
[2017-03-14 06:57:54] mdsmm : tothe moon
[2017-03-14 07:02:03] mdsmm : /sentiment
[2017-03-14 07:02:04] mdsmm : /price
[2017-03-14 07:02:05] mdsmm : /wall
[2017-03-14 07:02:06] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 70.96 / 29.04 Daily : 51.00 / 49.00 Weekly : 50.64 / 49.36 Monthly : 50.26 / 49.74```
[2017-03-14 07:02:07] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1227.66 (-1.21%) Bitfinex : 1222.00 (-1.16%) The Woodchipper : 1227.03 (-0.94%) itBit : 1233.09 (-0.98%) Kraken : 1220.00 (-0.47%) GDAX : 1233.00 (-1.21%) SLQ : 5 hours, 22 mins```
[2017-03-14 07:02:08] trollbot : ``` ±$10 Bid|Ask liq : (3 hours, 56 mins) $2845K (-11.58%) | $1474K (128.03%) ```
[2017-03-14 07:05:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBCH17`: sell 30000 @ 7909.4
[2017-03-14 07:08:47] heheh lo : finex crashing
[2017-03-14 07:08:49] heheh lo : good luck
[2017-03-14 07:09:18] cryptonoob : $10 lower is a crash?
[2017-03-14 07:09:57] JBF : Dooom
[2017-03-14 07:12:40] heheh lo : cryptonoob: soon to be $50
[2017-03-14 07:17:47] InvalidUser : 2 green candles in a row
[2017-03-14 07:17:54] JBF : If stamp eats that 850btc wall at 1224 i might worry
[2017-03-14 07:19:58] etoque : lol
[2017-03-14 07:20:01] etoque : i keep my short for sure
[2017-03-14 07:21:15] Rado : Got long h17 at 1223
[2017-03-14 07:24:53] heheh lo : lets see if its break 1235
[2017-03-14 07:30:49] limsta08 : https://coinone.co.kr/chart/?site=BitMexXBTH17&unit_time=30m
[2017-03-14 07:31:02] limsta08 : Try this. I like their charts.
[2017-03-14 07:32:37] etoque : negative
[2017-03-14 07:32:43] etoque : someone gonna dump this lonely wall
[2017-03-14 07:33:08] KyllingLolsson : SAD!
[2017-03-14 07:39:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBCH17`: sell 1500 @ 7878.9
[2017-03-14 07:41:34] heheh lo : man i should increase my short. ahaha
[2017-03-14 07:43:40] MikeHunt : should dump to 1180 then reclimb
[2017-03-14 07:43:46] MikeHunt : up to 1300+
[2017-03-14 07:45:24] sd fdssa : maybe the price will fly to the sky
[2017-03-14 07:45:42] InvalidUser : order book is pretty even, half the people want out half want in
[2017-03-14 07:46:50] sd fdssa : really?
[2017-03-14 07:47:22] sd fdssa : I want to increase my short but no order book
[2017-03-14 07:48:21] mdsmm : thoughts ethereum
[2017-03-14 07:50:00] sd fdssa : thoughts zcash
[2017-03-14 07:50:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `FCT7D`: sell 10 @ 0.003270
[2017-03-14 07:54:43] InvalidUser : sd fdssa:Shit coin is shit, but is good for pumping and dumping
[2017-03-14 07:56:11] KyllingLolsson : im godda refill my shiort at 1237 on march
[2017-03-14 07:56:37] KyllingLolsson : cant spell like a retard
[2017-03-14 07:59:32] mdsmm : good luck
[2017-03-14 08:00:30] longbydefault : what is the main difference in trading bitcoin and alts... i make money on bitcoin and lose on alts...
[2017-03-14 08:01:45] longbydefault : can someone share some pointers...
[2017-03-14 08:02:02] Rado : longbydefault: you are going long on alts
[2017-03-14 08:02:04] rapidtrades : yeah don't be a prema-bull
[2017-03-14 08:02:07] Rado : you should go short
[2017-03-14 08:02:12] etoque : be patient
[2017-03-14 08:02:34] KyllingLolsson : be a seahorse
[2017-03-14 08:03:30] Rado : rapidtrades: what's up man
[2017-03-14 08:03:43] rapidtrades : nm hows asia bra
[2017-03-14 08:03:54] Rado : great
[2017-03-14 08:03:57] heheh lo : buybuybuy swap
[2017-03-14 08:04:01] heheh lo : buy into my short lets go
[2017-03-14 08:04:02] jonny : should i go short 1million ether?
[2017-03-14 08:04:07] jonny : liquidations kill:(
[2017-03-14 08:04:15] Rado : I am on Koh Phi Phi
[2017-03-14 08:04:22] Rado : great islands
[2017-03-14 08:04:38] Rado : catching a ferry back to Koh Lanta now
[2017-03-14 08:04:45] jonny : everyone stop gambling
[2017-03-14 08:04:52] jonny : leave bitmex, leave bitfinex
[2017-03-14 08:05:03] rapidtrades : ah looks great
[2017-03-14 08:05:12] InvalidUser : A witch burn him
[2017-03-14 08:05:13] Rado : jonny: you first
[2017-03-14 08:05:25] jonny : yes
[2017-03-14 08:05:29] jonny : thanks
[2017-03-14 08:05:42] jonny : put your btc in coldstorage
[2017-03-14 08:05:56] jonny : and do something else
[2017-03-14 08:06:19] longbydefault : rado: i've been shorting dash since 0.03...
[2017-03-14 08:06:37] jonny : longbydefault: liquidated?
[2017-03-14 08:06:38] InvalidUser : Who bought the bottom there
[2017-03-14 08:06:40] longbydefault : rado: that's what i'm saying... it's not going down... not like with bitcoin
[2017-03-14 08:06:53] longbydefault : jonny: no... i close it before it gets too big
[2017-03-14 08:07:04] longbydefault : i shorted... 0.3... and 0.5
[2017-03-14 08:07:30] longbydefault : 0.03 and 0.05
[2017-03-14 08:07:54] longbydefault : but what i'm saying is... that could be a profitable in btc... shorting at ATH... not working with alts
[2017-03-14 08:09:20] jonny : longbydefault: if you think of altcoins like bitcoin with leverage 5 or bitcoin future with leverage 3 or so
[2017-03-14 08:09:26] jonny : then they look more similar already
[2017-03-14 08:09:41] Rado : longbydefault: why do you short when there is fomo
[2017-03-14 08:10:02] Rado : wait until the hype goes down, then short
[2017-03-14 08:10:23] Rado : i promise you DASH will be 0.04 in a month
[2017-03-14 08:10:53] longbydefault : Rado: thanks... how about monero?
[2017-03-14 08:11:10] longbydefault : jonny: thanks... im trying to expand my game to include alts
[2017-03-14 08:11:58] Rado : longbydefault: monero easier to short than dash
[2017-03-14 08:13:00] longbydefault : Rado: thoughts on eth? ok i will try to time my entry on the alts
[2017-03-14 08:13:09] j8 : if you shorted bitcoin every time it hit an all time high you would have lost big time. looking at the entire history
[2017-03-14 08:13:10] rullwull : monero didn't make it hype yet, dash did it
[2017-03-14 08:13:36] rullwull : eth looks unstoppable
[2017-03-14 08:13:44] jonny : monero is younger and hyped last year
[2017-03-14 08:14:15] longbydefault : j8: yeah but bitcoin is like... up down rinse repeat... these alts have been doubling and still not going down... in just a few days
[2017-03-14 08:14:32] jonny : rullwull: eth is inflationary and miner network need to grow 4 times to keep the price
[2017-03-14 08:14:42] Rado : longbydefault: look at ETH after it hit 0.035
[2017-03-14 08:14:48] longbydefault : what are your guys thoughts on the fundamentals of eth, xmr, and dash?
[2017-03-14 08:14:55] Rado : went down to 0.007
[2017-03-14 08:15:24] elmorte : Rado: oooh, a Lisk pump!
[2017-03-14 08:15:48] Rado : elmorte: hey man
[2017-03-14 08:15:58] Rado : I didn't even look at it
[2017-03-14 08:16:02] Rado : let me check
[2017-03-14 08:16:20] j8 : yeah, they're more volatile, they'll go up 100% or more in a couple days, but usually come back down. just expect 5-10x the volatility
[2017-03-14 08:16:22] elmorte : I was just wondering why my portfolio increased when Eth went down
[2017-03-14 08:17:12] Rado : elmorte: lol
[2017-03-14 08:17:24] Rado : hopefully is not going to come right back down
[2017-03-14 08:17:34] Rado : j8: hey man, how is it going
[2017-03-14 08:17:46] elmorte : yeah...I'm not selling, I know it would just skyrocket then
[2017-03-14 08:18:01] j8 : Rado: pretty good dude
[2017-03-14 08:18:01] Rado : I've been doing grate part time trading while traveling
[2017-03-14 08:18:12] j8 : excellent.
[2017-03-14 08:18:13] Rado : great too
[2017-03-14 08:18:57] Rado : j8: what is the current trade on premiums and rates?
[2017-03-14 08:19:43] j8 : mostly waiting for friday
[2017-03-14 08:19:53] j8 : new quarterlies
[2017-03-14 08:19:57] elmorte : Do MMs get to enter their offers prior to the new contract listing, for example on Friday?
[2017-03-14 08:20:29] elmorte : Probably not, in case they bid into each other
[2017-03-14 08:20:30] Rado : elmorte: no
[2017-03-14 08:20:44] Rado : the add it to their bot
[2017-03-14 08:20:52] Rado : so it just starts working
[2017-03-14 08:21:05] elmorte : K...was just wondering if the order book starts empty
[2017-03-14 08:21:12] elmorte : and how long it takes to normalize
[2017-03-14 08:21:34] elmorte : coz everyone's waiting for some reference point
[2017-03-14 08:22:00] sd fdssa : I want to short zcash but I cannot find order\
[2017-03-14 08:22:06] Rado : J8 can tell you more
[2017-03-14 08:22:28] j8 : usually the main MM is there right away. if it launches at noon UTC that's 4 hours after okc quarterly launches, which is when the real early negotiation over premium happens
[2017-03-14 08:22:40] elmorte : ahh, yes OKC
[2017-03-14 08:24:21] j8 : we will have 7 contracts for bitcoin. swap + 2 each for XBT, XBC, XBJ
[2017-03-14 08:24:44] elmorte : oooh...
[2017-03-14 08:24:56] elmorte : But XBC liquidity is kinda low already...
[2017-03-14 08:25:39] elmorte : Should pick up during the overlap at least
[2017-03-14 08:25:56] j8 : yeah too many is bad. it pays to roll into the next one early
[2017-03-14 08:26:17] j8 : the old ones will get pretty deserted
[2017-03-14 08:26:48] KyllingLolsson : Everybody, stop trading crypto! Start trading pineapple, its the future.
[2017-03-14 08:27:48] Rado : Looks like 1240 is forming as a resistance
[2017-03-14 08:32:41] InvalidUser : Happy Steak and Blow Job Day!! http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Steak%20and%20Blowjob%20Day
[2017-03-14 08:36:35] Rado : I think DASH is the best short right now
[2017-03-14 08:36:48] Rado : 2-3 weeks hold
[2017-03-14 08:36:49] elmorte : I'm still hoping the CNY price blows up after they release withdrawals...I mean you can SELL on LBTC for 8500 yuan
[2017-03-14 08:37:09] Rado : elmorte: I agree
[2017-03-14 08:37:17] elmorte : Rado: any news though?
[2017-03-14 08:37:22] Rado : the problem is they might come with something else
[2017-03-14 08:37:36] Rado : Chinese are pretty sneaky
[2017-03-14 08:37:56] j8 : china discount has gotten worse the last few days
[2017-03-14 08:38:22] Rado : It was 100 before
[2017-03-14 08:38:31] Rado : then got back to only 30
[2017-03-14 08:38:37] Rado : just to go up again
[2017-03-14 08:38:51] Rado : what is it t right now?
[2017-03-14 08:39:03] Rado : I am on phone
[2017-03-14 08:39:18] j8 : -7.23% like $90
[2017-03-14 08:39:39] Rado : Should be a good trade generally speaking
[2017-03-14 08:39:46] rullwull : i trade okc march in cny
[2017-03-14 08:40:00] Rado : I give it a 70% chance of success
[2017-03-14 08:40:09] aethlios : Rado: when btc goes down spread shrinks, after etf west 960 and china 1000, when btc rallies spread widens.
[2017-03-14 08:40:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: sell 15 @ 0.023640
[2017-03-14 08:40:51] Rado : aethlios: we are betting that this will eventually change
[2017-03-14 08:41:09] Rado : remember when China was 50 higher
[2017-03-14 08:41:31] aethlios : Rado: yes true, okcoin index is 40 usd below bitmex because has 50% yuan china pairs
[2017-03-14 08:41:38] InvalidUser : Bitcoin is the Honeybadger of money.
[2017-03-14 08:42:09] aethlios : they must allow withdrawals again.
[2017-03-14 08:42:23] Rado : aethlios: they will
[2017-03-14 08:42:35] InvalidUser : China is an attention howe
[2017-03-14 08:42:41] Rado : By the way then even west price will go up
[2017-03-14 08:42:43] InvalidUser : whore
[2017-03-14 08:43:34] aethlios : Rado: new okcoin quarterly if 40 usd cheaper than bitmex then a nice bet, have 3 months to gain this spread.
[2017-03-14 08:44:17] j8 : they won't be $40 apart
[2017-03-14 08:44:43] j8 : 10 or 15 maybe
[2017-03-14 08:44:51] j8 : markets price in the arb over time
[2017-03-14 08:45:16] KyllingLolsson : /sentiment
[2017-03-14 08:45:19] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 29.80 / 70.20 Daily : 50.70 / 49.30 Weekly : 50.56 / 49.44 Monthly : 50.24 / 49.76```
[2017-03-14 08:45:44] aethlios : i am talking about spread between both quarterlies, now 40 usd
[2017-03-14 08:46:06] j8 : yes but that's because they expire soon, so they need to be closer to their own index
[2017-03-14 08:47:20] j8 : the new ones will probably be closer together, even if their indexes are different
[2017-03-14 08:48:30] aethlios : j8: maybe because okcoin traders expect china discount to vanish until expitation end of june. But if 70 usd spread then is a baegain!!!
[2017-03-14 08:49:05] aethlios : with a 100 btc arb is a 7k usd in 3 months, not bad.
[2017-03-14 08:49:21] j8 : definitely, i'll take that bargain. i just doubt it will exist because it's easy money
[2017-03-14 08:49:36] InvalidUser : kiss
[2017-03-14 08:49:41] aethlios : we are in crypto, lots of easy money.
[2017-03-14 08:50:19] aethlios : i expect bitmex to be super bullish and okcoin 10 15 usd above their index.
[2017-03-14 08:52:01] j8 : maybe, if people are scared to go long because of the shit that happened this quarter. but that's like 1%, super bearish if that's how it launches
[2017-03-14 08:52:08] etoque : wtf bot here
[2017-03-14 08:52:26] etoque : every coin bo is setup to have always 10% spread range compare to polo
[2017-03-14 08:54:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: sell 150 @ 0.023430
[2017-03-14 08:56:16] Rado : etoque: not enough liquidity and only one main MM
[2017-03-14 08:56:31] etoque : about ?
[2017-03-14 08:56:34] etoque : ah
[2017-03-14 08:56:38] etoque : MM ?
[2017-03-14 08:56:46] Rado : Market maker
[2017-03-14 08:56:54] etoque : yeah
[2017-03-14 08:56:57] etoque : thats suck
[2017-03-14 08:57:06] etoque : at least he could trade normaly
[2017-03-14 08:57:17] etoque : that's just make place gross
[2017-03-14 08:57:32] Rado : etoque: spread shouldn't boder you
[2017-03-14 08:57:50] elmorte : etoque: volatility is too strong, so spread must compensate
[2017-03-14 08:58:14] etoque : thats bs
[2017-03-14 08:58:29] etoque : lol really
[2017-03-14 08:59:01] etoque : volatility is strong like everywhere,just a dude here playing a D1ck game
[2017-03-14 08:59:21] Rado : etoque: it's not his fault
[2017-03-14 08:59:32] Rado : you try to make the market
[2017-03-14 08:59:45] elmorte : etoque: this is not spot
[2017-03-14 09:00:30] KyllingLolsson : /sentiment
[2017-03-14 09:00:33] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 30.48 / 69.53 Daily : 50.77 / 49.23 Weekly : 50.56 / 49.45 Monthly : 50.24 / 49.76```
[2017-03-14 09:00:59] elmorte : etoque: no one's stopping you from making your own offers
[2017-03-14 09:01:20] etoque : lol im not a whale
[2017-03-14 09:01:29] etoque : and that's exactly retract a whale to come trade here
[2017-03-14 09:01:35] etoque : so its just a situation where nothing move
[2017-03-14 09:02:12] elmorte : etoque: you want to buy? Just make a bid
[2017-03-14 09:02:19] elmorte : No one's stopping you
[2017-03-14 09:02:28] etoque : lol im not talking about that
[2017-03-14 09:02:34] etoque : Eat my salad now
[2017-03-14 09:02:39] etoque : thanks
[2017-03-14 09:04:13] jonny : automatically ? @rullwull
[2017-03-14 09:11:56] Rado : Shorted half position ETH here
[2017-03-14 09:12:06] KyllingLolsson : /sentiment
[2017-03-14 09:12:08] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 33.66 / 66.34 Daily : 50.81 / 49.19 Weekly : 50.56 / 49.44 Monthly : 50.24 / 49.77```
[2017-03-14 09:16:09] InvalidUser : Wow Stemm is pumping
[2017-03-14 09:16:44] InvalidUser : O no I am looking at the wrong thing
[2017-03-14 09:18:31] InvalidUser : It is the right thing,, it's up 19%
[2017-03-14 09:18:36] KyllingLolsson : /price
[2017-03-14 09:18:42] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1236.71 (0.74%) Bitfinex : 1230.60 (0.70%) The Woodchipper : 1236.35 (0.76%) itBit : 1238.14 (0.41%) Kraken : 1227.18 (0.59%) GDAX : 1238.00 (0.41%) SLQ : 2 hours, 16 mins```
[2017-03-14 09:19:24] Ahhere : Jesus polo trollbox is a shitshow
[2017-03-14 09:20:28] Ahhere : InvalidUser: Bytecoin is exploding. Up 25 % from 4 satoshis to 5 satoshis. Moon soon
[2017-03-14 09:20:36] Ahhere : lol
[2017-03-14 09:20:44] InvalidUser : lol
[2017-03-14 09:21:00] elmorte : Rado: gl
[2017-03-14 09:21:08] aron : If I sell market at 1234 and buy at 2468 (!00 contracts) how much loss do i make? does it change depending on leverage?
[2017-03-14 09:21:17] Ahhere : Cheapest coin on polo.
[2017-03-14 09:21:21] Rado : elmorte: thanks
[2017-03-14 09:22:02] Ahhere : aron: use the calculator for your strangely specific question
[2017-03-14 09:22:27] Rado : aron: you still don't get how it works. Use the calculator tool that is provided here
[2017-03-14 09:22:58] aron : I did and it says loss of 0.4
[2017-03-14 09:23:12] aron : i just think i dont know how to use the calculator
[2017-03-14 09:23:21] Ahhere : Nope try again
[2017-03-14 09:23:22] aron : 0.04*
[2017-03-14 09:23:36] Ahhere : better
[2017-03-14 09:23:44] Ahhere : 0.0405
[2017-03-14 09:24:02] aron : but it doesnt say fees
[2017-03-14 09:24:10] aron : so figure is wrong
[2017-03-14 09:24:33] aron : people say that i shouldnt use this site for long term
[2017-03-14 09:25:02] elmorte : aron: calculator is for limit orders, not market
[2017-03-14 09:25:05] aron : i was thinking about holding 200 usd worth bitcoin hoping it goes up and shorting 200 usd worth bitcoin in case it goes down
[2017-03-14 09:25:24] aron : anything wrong with my plan?
[2017-03-14 09:25:32] Ahhere : aron: yes
[2017-03-14 09:25:36] aron : wha
[2017-03-14 09:25:42] Ahhere : its too genius
[2017-03-14 09:25:46] aron : :)
[2017-03-14 09:25:53] aron : seriosuly though
[2017-03-14 09:26:06] Ahhere : if you long 200 and short 200 you are flat
[2017-03-14 09:26:14] aron : not long 200
[2017-03-14 09:26:19] aron : hold it
[2017-03-14 09:26:27] aron : as in put it in a wallet somewhere
[2017-03-14 09:26:58] Ahhere : So your 200 dollars becomes 400 dollars
[2017-03-14 09:27:04] aron : yes
[2017-03-14 09:27:07] Ahhere : and your 200 other dollars becomes zero
[2017-03-14 09:27:10] aron : and i lose 0.4
[2017-03-14 09:27:13] Ahhere : and you have 200 dollars
[2017-03-14 09:27:14] aron : 0.04*
[2017-03-14 09:27:15] Ahhere : still
[2017-03-14 09:27:24] aron : no how does it become zero?
[2017-03-14 09:27:28] Ahhere : seems like a lot of work
[2017-03-14 09:27:30] aron : i only lose 0.04
[2017-03-14 09:27:57] Ahhere : Just 100x like everyone else lose your money or get rich and move on
[2017-03-14 09:28:16] aron : ahhere i only lose 50 dollars
[2017-03-14 09:28:25] aron : so i still profit if it doubles
[2017-03-14 09:29:11] aron : 200 dollars in wallet doubles to 400. 200 dollars in short loses 0.04 btc= 50 usd = 100 if doubled. 400-100= 300
[2017-03-14 09:29:19] aron : = 100 profit if bitcoin doubles
[2017-03-14 09:30:19] micmix : aron: 0
[2017-03-14 09:30:38] aron : why 0?
[2017-03-14 09:30:45] Ahhere : aron: what is 0.04 when bitcoin is 2468
[2017-03-14 09:31:00] micmix : aron: sorry, 0.04 btc is not going to be $100 when bitcoin doubles