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[2015-11-19 08:17:39] zanza : not because its 140 days away
[2015-11-19 08:18:09] floopfloop : zanza: :)
[2015-11-19 08:18:15] rapidtrades : does the fair price follow the market price or do traders push the market price toward the fair price...im confused
[2015-11-19 08:18:41] zanza : i dont know that one
[2015-11-19 08:18:45] floopfloop : unicorns. Its all the unicorns
[2015-11-19 08:19:05] rapidtrades : floopfloop: aids, your mom has it
[2015-11-19 08:19:13] zanza : oh damn
[2015-11-19 08:19:37] floopfloop : He must have a hot mom
[2015-11-19 08:20:06] floopfloop : His subconscious is trying to defend his mom through his outward use of pathetic mom jokes.
[2015-11-19 08:20:45] floopfloop : its ok.... @rapidtrades https://konnikim.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/internet-hug.jpg
[2015-11-19 08:23:27] ethexio : oh damn, just realized I went short
[2015-11-19 08:24:11] ethexio : Eh, we'll see what happens when I wake up.
[2015-11-19 08:24:24] floopfloop : ethexio: price?
[2015-11-19 08:24:43] ethexio : 333.18
[2015-11-19 08:24:56] floopfloop : ouch
[2015-11-19 08:24:57] wurstgelee : no good
[2015-11-19 08:25:00] ethexio : was on mobile, a little tricky
[2015-11-19 08:25:07] ethexio : no good indeed
[2015-11-19 08:25:07] floopfloop : might want to just take a small loss on that
[2015-11-19 08:25:09] wurstgelee : i would consider closing tbh
[2015-11-19 08:25:13] wurstgelee : yep
[2015-11-19 08:25:13] floopfloop : ^
[2015-11-19 08:25:14] wurstgelee : ;)
[2015-11-19 08:25:54] zanza : ethexio: u the one who just obught up the order book :)
[2015-11-19 08:26:01] ethexio : no
[2015-11-19 08:26:39] wurstgelee : u might get an opportunity to close in the next few mins tho
[2015-11-19 08:27:32] floopfloop : i might actually short the book tbh
[2015-11-19 08:28:00] wurstgelee : gl
[2015-11-19 08:28:02] wurstgelee : ;)
[2015-11-19 08:28:04] BitMEX_Wally : rapidtrades: The fair price is adjusted to match the market
[2015-11-19 08:28:18] rapidtrades : tnx that makes sense
[2015-11-19 08:28:37] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Wally: how often is it adjusted
[2015-11-19 08:29:16] BitMEX_Wally : Depends how often it trades
[2015-11-19 08:29:33] rapidtrades : so after each trade or
[2015-11-19 08:33:57] ethexio : Gonna sleep in this short
[2015-11-19 08:34:24] ethexio : yolololo
[2015-11-19 08:34:35] ethexio : :(
[2015-11-19 08:35:22] rapidtrades : YOLO
[2015-11-19 08:40:51] BitMEX_Wally : rapidtrades: In general we adjust the fair price so it is inside the bid / ask
[2015-11-19 08:45:11] gigas : I apologize for asking a question I could probably search for, but could anyone tell me what fees BitMEX charges on futures contracts?
[2015-11-19 08:46:11] kendang : gigas: https://www.bitmex.com/app/fees
[2015-11-19 08:46:35] gigas : Thank you very much!
[2015-11-19 09:42:55] floopfloop : I need to stop making late night trades lol
[2015-11-19 09:49:19] wurstgelee : longed @ 335? ;)
[2015-11-19 09:50:14] floopfloop : wurstgelee: no, and I don't think you want to know
[2015-11-19 09:50:22] floopfloop : well maybe lol
[2015-11-19 09:50:26] wurstgelee : lol :D
[2015-11-19 09:50:56] floopfloop : Ill see how the next 10 min goes down
[2015-11-19 09:52:19] wurstgelee : fair price of below 334 .....lol
[2015-11-19 09:52:48] floopfloop : wurstgelee: I need the bears to wake up
[2015-11-19 09:52:54] floopfloop : arise from their slumber
[2015-11-19 09:53:17] wurstgelee : nope. bears need to be shot (currently)
[2015-11-19 09:53:18] wurstgelee : ;)
[2015-11-19 09:53:50] floopfloop : no, they are endangered animals
[2015-11-19 09:53:54] floopfloop : its illegal
[2015-11-19 09:53:58] floopfloop : they need to roam free
[2015-11-19 09:54:02] wurstgelee : not all bears
[2015-11-19 09:54:09] wurstgelee : and not everywhere
[2015-11-19 09:55:16] floopfloop : wurstgelee: http://media.nbcchicago.com/images/1200*900/chicago-bears-logo.jpg
[2015-11-19 09:55:20] floopfloop : fck
[2015-11-19 09:55:24] wurstgelee : tbh, it looks more like up
[2015-11-19 09:55:31] floopfloop : http://www.thesportsbank.net/core/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/ChicagoBears.jpg
[2015-11-19 09:55:40] floopfloop : wake up to sell
[2015-11-19 09:55:46] floopfloop : and yes, the bears are waking up
[2015-11-19 09:55:55] floopfloop : bulls had their run, they are tired, need to sleep
[2015-11-19 09:56:01] wurstgelee : nope
[2015-11-19 09:56:05] floopfloop : yup
[2015-11-19 09:56:17] wurstgelee : we'll see ;)
[2015-11-19 09:56:26] wurstgelee : charts looking bullish for today tho
[2015-11-19 09:56:28] wurstgelee : *imo
[2015-11-19 09:56:32] floopfloop : maybe for later
[2015-11-19 09:56:38] wurstgelee : 11 am here, thats why "today"
[2015-11-19 09:56:39] floopfloop : bears until setllement
[2015-11-19 09:56:42] floopfloop : oh i see
[2015-11-19 09:56:59] floopfloop : I need bears to do magic
[2015-11-19 09:57:33] wurstgelee : macd on higher timeframes looks 2 up 4 bears ;)
[2015-11-19 09:57:41] wurstgelee : higher as in "15mins and up"
[2015-11-19 09:58:22] wurstgelee : even 4h crossed a while ago
[2015-11-19 09:58:48] floopfloop : only chart that is looking bullish is the 15min? lol
[2015-11-19 09:59:45] floopfloop : wurstgelee: http://www.dcnr.state.pa.us/cs/groups/public/documents/multimedia/dcnr_20026370.jpg
[2015-11-19 09:59:47] wurstgelee : 15 30 4h and even in between since it changed direction
[2015-11-19 10:01:29] floopfloop : wurstgelee: https://screen.yahoo.com/bill-swerskis-super-fans-da-000000191.html
[2015-11-19 10:01:52] wurstgelee : unfortunately this video is not available in your region :/
[2015-11-19 10:02:25] floopfloop : wurstgelee: http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/bill-swerskis-super-fans/n10094
[2015-11-19 10:02:26] floopfloop : that one?
[2015-11-19 10:04:05] floopfloop : wurstgelee: whats your position btw?
[2015-11-19 10:04:36] wurstgelee : long
[2015-11-19 10:04:43] wurstgelee : entry 334.24
[2015-11-19 10:04:56] wurstgelee : its been open a while now ;)
[2015-11-19 10:05:21] floopfloop : mine has been open too long lol
[2015-11-19 10:05:27] floopfloop : 333.88
[2015-11-19 10:05:27] wurstgelee : also yes, that video
[2015-11-19 10:05:31] wurstgelee : not availablae :/
[2015-11-19 10:05:34] wurstgelee : available
[2015-11-19 10:05:44] wurstgelee : short right?
[2015-11-19 10:05:52] wurstgelee : mh....that might cost a bit
[2015-11-19 10:05:53] floopfloop : yeah :(
[2015-11-19 10:06:08] floopfloop : not if it keeps going like this
[2015-11-19 10:06:25] wurstgelee : buying those 334.10 is probably better than setlement
[2015-11-19 10:06:29] wurstgelee : for example :)
[2015-11-19 10:06:33] wurstgelee : ;)
[2015-11-19 10:06:52] floopfloop : 330 for settlement
[2015-11-19 10:07:05] wurstgelee : lol, no way
[2015-11-19 10:07:07] wurstgelee : =)
[2015-11-19 10:07:16] floopfloop : easy
[2015-11-19 10:08:59] wurstgelee : if u dont want them cheap 334, ill buy them :p
[2015-11-19 10:09:48] floopfloop : I think we see 331
[2015-11-19 10:10:07] wurstgelee : i think and hope we dont, i fear we might do :p
[2015-11-19 10:10:21] wurstgelee : but no..not really
[2015-11-19 10:10:31] wurstgelee : doesnt look like that
[2015-11-19 10:11:01] floopfloop : the bull is real
[2015-11-19 10:11:08] floopfloop : but the bear is realer
[2015-11-19 10:11:56] wurstgelee : floopfloop: im polite so i ask once: u want those 333.90 :)
[2015-11-19 10:12:05] wurstgelee : ?
[2015-11-19 10:12:23] floopfloop : theres a 333.83
[2015-11-19 10:12:33] wurstgelee : oh fuck
[2015-11-19 10:12:36] wurstgelee : grouping
[2015-11-19 10:12:37] wurstgelee : oO
[2015-11-19 10:12:46] wurstgelee : k, next time
[2015-11-19 10:12:48] wurstgelee : 2late
[2015-11-19 10:12:53] irbbqu : :)
[2015-11-19 10:13:09] wurstgelee : ok, im taking those above
[2015-11-19 10:13:10] wurstgelee : :P
[2015-11-19 10:13:47] irbbqu : Yea, ok R/R XBX being at 334.76 2 hours before settlement
[2015-11-19 10:13:49] irbbqu : That alone I mean.
[2015-11-19 10:14:09] floopfloop : means nothing?
[2015-11-19 10:15:49] floopfloop : only thing that matters is last 30 min
[2015-11-19 10:16:45] irbbqu : That is true, still means something though.
[2015-11-19 10:17:00] irbbqu : When shit is so sideways as now
[2015-11-19 10:17:05] floopfloop : not really? China can dump in 20 sec
[2015-11-19 10:18:48] floopfloop : :0
[2015-11-19 10:29:06] floopfloop : rip rsi
[2015-11-19 10:31:14] ethexio : Whee
[2015-11-19 10:32:02] floopfloop : ethexio: im hoping the same
[2015-11-19 10:35:05] ethexio : We'll dump last minute,China saves the day
[2015-11-19 10:35:26] ethexio : When are withdraws processed ?
[2015-11-19 10:36:11] floopfloop : i think at settlement
[2015-11-19 10:36:32] floopfloop : i dont know, look it up lol
[2015-11-19 10:36:45] wurstgelee : yes, an hour after xbt24h setllement or something?
[2015-11-19 10:37:19] floopfloop : omg that dump
[2015-11-19 10:38:37] wurstgelee : mh? where?
[2015-11-19 10:38:38] floopfloop : ethexio: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_sY2rjxq6M
[2015-11-19 10:44:47] ethexio : Haha yes
[2015-11-19 10:45:49] ethexio : wurstgelee: you're the wurst.
[2015-11-19 10:47:17] floopfloop : cmon china, sell all your btc already
[2015-11-19 10:47:24] floopfloop : we all want $300 dollar btc including you
[2015-11-19 10:47:57] wurstgelee : selling my start in 73 mins
[2015-11-19 10:47:59] wurstgelee : not earlier ;)
[2015-11-19 10:48:02] wurstgelee : *may
[2015-11-19 10:49:04] floopfloop : wurstgelee: im trying to east out of mine but may have to just ride it out and take loss
[2015-11-19 10:49:12] floopfloop : hoping china sells off their children here tho
[2015-11-19 10:49:21] wurstgelee : hehe
[2015-11-19 10:49:33] wurstgelee : sso that order @ 333.82 is yours?
[2015-11-19 10:50:09] wurstgelee : buying a little above 334 is probably still cheaper than settlement
[2015-11-19 10:50:47] ethexio : You hush
[2015-11-19 10:50:58] floopfloop : ^
[2015-11-19 10:51:10] floopfloop : and no, because settlement will be below 333
[2015-11-19 10:51:23] wurstgelee : haha
[2015-11-19 10:51:25] ethexio : 331
[2015-11-19 10:51:26] wurstgelee : nope it wont ;)
[2015-11-19 10:51:49] floopfloop : http://funnyjunk.com/funny_pictures/340311/You
[2015-11-19 10:52:10] wurstgelee : 335 and above would be nice but i'll accept 334.5 if i have to
[2015-11-19 10:52:46] ethexio : Ohyou.gif
[2015-11-19 10:52:53] floopfloop : rofl
[2015-11-19 10:53:00] floopfloop : smd.gif
[2015-11-19 10:54:05] floopfloop : ethexio: 331 sounds good
[2015-11-19 10:54:26] floopfloop : ethexio: http://www.quickmeme.com/img/09/09fac0a783882bd12232ea769e36c4b9bfb8fce0174b48a3678a304422822346.jpg
[2015-11-19 10:54:45] floopfloop : ethexio: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrdBGGy7syE
[2015-11-19 10:54:51] irbbqu : 333.83 order if you want floop
[2015-11-19 10:55:14] ethexio : I can't keep up with your memes
[2015-11-19 10:55:52] wurstgelee : nice
[2015-11-19 10:55:56] wurstgelee : 200k ;)
[2015-11-19 10:56:44] wurstgelee : mh no, i wont sell to your 334.51 :p
[2015-11-19 10:57:41] ethexio : Playtime
[2015-11-19 10:58:10] wurstgelee : coffee&cig time
[2015-11-19 11:02:10] floopfloop : ill make a cup as well
[2015-11-19 11:11:20] floopfloop : ethexio: :)
[2015-11-19 11:13:04] ethexio : I'm in and out
[2015-11-19 11:14:01] ethexio : Riding this to 331, reupped.
[2015-11-19 11:14:45] wurstgelee : riding this 46mins to settlement oO
[2015-11-19 11:15:14] ethexio : Do it.
[2015-11-19 11:15:20] wurstgelee : i hope so :p
[2015-11-19 11:16:13] ethexio : I'd close your long though
[2015-11-19 11:16:25] ethexio : Gonna get hairy
[2015-11-19 11:16:34] wurstgelee : yep, it is
[2015-11-19 11:16:35] floopfloop : like your moms crotch
[2015-11-19 11:16:41] wurstgelee : oO
[2015-11-19 11:16:47] wurstgelee : nothing to close into in the books tho
[2015-11-19 11:17:35] wurstgelee : nah, it will work out
[2015-11-19 11:17:42] wurstgelee : entry is 344.15 now.
[2015-11-19 11:17:51] floopfloop : ethexio: http://www.starwarsuncut.com/empire/109
[2015-11-19 11:19:38] floopfloop : charts indicate one more drop off before price increase
[2015-11-19 11:20:21] wurstgelee : i think the same . it may drop in 40 mins to get a fresh, cheap long ;)
[2015-11-19 11:20:37] ethexio : Yep
[2015-11-19 11:20:43] floopfloop : you must be smoking that hopium
[2015-11-19 11:21:10] wurstgelee : no, desperatium. nothing to close long into
[2015-11-19 11:21:13] wurstgelee : i have no choice ;)
[2015-11-19 11:21:37] ethexio : Ride it to euphoria
[2015-11-19 11:21:44] wurstgelee : 12k contracts
[2015-11-19 11:21:48] floopfloop : ethexio: thats what she said?
[2015-11-19 11:22:32] ethexio : Kinda. Different words but similar context
[2015-11-19 11:23:14] floopfloop : cmon one big sell off
[2015-11-19 11:23:32] wurstgelee : NO
[2015-11-19 11:23:33] wurstgelee : shut up :)
[2015-11-19 11:23:36] ethexio : Meeting in 5 min. Let's keep it dumping pls.
[2015-11-19 11:23:46] wurstgelee : meeting since 23min
[2015-11-19 11:23:51] wurstgelee : i canceled it
[2015-11-19 11:24:15] ethexio : I can't cancel. And will be screen sharing..
[2015-11-19 11:24:21] wurstgelee : oh, thats shit
[2015-11-19 11:24:32] wurstgelee : u need a second computer or screen for bitmex then
[2015-11-19 11:24:37] ethexio : Jesus, take the wheel.
[2015-11-19 11:25:28] ethexio : I already have 4 screens. And laptop.
[2015-11-19 11:25:55] wurstgelee : ok, so screen sharing is no problem
[2015-11-19 11:26:10] ethexio : Ciao, good luck guys
[2015-11-19 11:26:16] wurstgelee : ethexio: cu and same
[2015-11-19 11:27:17] wurstgelee : this is looking better than 15 mins earlier. ;)
[2015-11-19 11:29:53] wurstgelee : floopfloop: closing short?
[2015-11-19 11:30:01] floopfloop : nope
[2015-11-19 11:30:13] floopfloop : reshorting
[2015-11-19 11:30:30] wurstgelee : oh
[2015-11-19 11:30:37] wurstgelee : risky
[2015-11-19 11:30:50] wurstgelee : ok depends on where youre trying to short from...but still
[2015-11-19 11:31:33] wurstgelee : and so the settlement has begun
[2015-11-19 11:34:45] podizzler3000 : looks like my vix short worked out nicely
[2015-11-19 11:35:42] wurstgelee : u shorted vix?
[2015-11-19 11:36:40] messiaen8844 : closed my 7D long..
[2015-11-19 11:40:08] wurstgelee : thank u stamp for that 150+ btc buy
[2015-11-19 11:46:18] podizzler3000 : btc gonna pump $50 any second and settlement will rise 50 cents
[2015-11-19 11:46:37] wurstgelee : dunno about 50$
[2015-11-19 11:46:54] wurstgelee : but it looks like its about to pop
[2015-11-19 11:49:57] wurstgelee : gnaa
[2015-11-19 12:03:20] floopfloop : 127k?
[2015-11-19 12:03:30] laisee : bfx charts a little odd looking now
[2015-11-19 12:24:04] wurstgelee : dump dump dump. do it!
[2015-11-19 12:28:22] messiaen8844 : https://twitter.com/fonebtc/status/667268830880792576
[2015-11-19 12:35:37] messiaen8844 : would love a cool dip for new long points
[2015-11-19 12:36:09] irbbqu : Ya, FUD news bear trap would be awesome.
[2015-11-19 12:43:00] messiaen8844 : http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/11/19/us-france-shoooting-eu-terrorism-funding-idUSKCN0T81BW20151119
[2015-11-19 12:43:03] messiaen8844 : getting more likely
[2015-11-19 12:45:27] irbbqu : Yea, China kinda bearish just defending that trendline right now.
[2015-11-19 12:45:39] irbbqu : Rarely works out well.
[2015-11-19 12:46:04] podizzler3k : and how exactly do they plan on preventing terrorists from using bitcoin?
[2015-11-19 12:46:16] podizzler3k : banning fiat withdrawals from all exchanges?
[2015-11-19 12:46:49] wurstgelee : burning all the bitcoins in a fire probably
[2015-11-19 12:46:49] messiaen8844 : moving
[2015-11-19 12:46:53] wurstgelee : or melt them
[2015-11-19 12:46:54] irbbqu : Yea it's ridic, already saw some UK report listing it as the least method used by money launderers/isis
[2015-11-19 12:47:04] irbbqu : But whales will use whatever they have ofc.
[2015-11-19 12:47:19] messiaen8844 : i mean, price is moving a bit
[2015-11-19 12:48:29] wurstgelee : only teasing so far
[2015-11-19 12:49:17] podizzler3k : price is moving a bit? could have fooled me
[2015-11-19 12:50:06] brynsolomon : https://www.bitmex.com/app/settlementHistory
[2015-11-19 12:50:19] brynsolomon : hi - from settlement history there are no bankruptcy / adjustment
[2015-11-19 12:50:21] brynsolomon : is this true?
[2015-11-19 12:53:00] slacknation : brynsolomon: yah, not for the last 100
[2015-11-19 12:55:15] messiaen8844 : down we go
[2015-11-19 12:55:19] wurstgelee : yep
[2015-11-19 12:55:37] messiaen8844 : nice, shorted the minute 24h opened
[2015-11-19 12:55:42] messiaen8844 : got some premium
[2015-11-19 12:58:09] irbbqu : 2048 first stop I guess
[2015-11-19 13:00:42] podizzler3k : this gone be ugly
[2015-11-19 13:01:02] messiaen8844 : liquidation
[2015-11-19 13:01:04] messiaen8844 : ?
[2015-11-19 13:01:12] podizzler3k : no the dumps today
[2015-11-19 13:01:24] messiaen8844 : meant, the 1k order
[2015-11-19 13:01:32] messiaen8844 : 10k
[2015-11-19 13:10:57] wurstgelee : mh...rebound or not? ;)
[2015-11-19 13:11:26] podizzler3k : its over
[2015-11-19 13:11:29] messiaen8844 : there are some support lines here
[2015-11-19 13:11:30] podizzler3k : you know how people react to this
[2015-11-19 13:11:37] wurstgelee : probably
[2015-11-19 13:11:38] podizzler3k : seen it a billion times
[2015-11-19 13:11:44] messiaen8844 : but when they are lost ....
[2015-11-19 13:11:49] podizzler3k : china bans all over again
[2015-11-19 13:12:26] podizzler3k : gonna be all negative speculation until these "talks"
[2015-11-19 13:12:37] podizzler3k : and then after the news comes out maybe rebound... thats my guess
[2015-11-19 13:12:39] messiaen8844 : thing is EU is looking at encryption, privacy... this indeeds affects BTC
[2015-11-19 13:12:40] habibi : china dont ban, this time eu could
[2015-11-19 13:12:58] wurstgelee : messiaen8844: not eu
[2015-11-19 13:12:59] wurstgelee : uk is
[2015-11-19 13:13:23] floopfloop : ofc this shit happens after the fcking settlement
[2015-11-19 13:13:32] wurstgelee : ;)
[2015-11-19 13:13:41] irbbqu : ^^
[2015-11-19 13:13:57] floopfloop : its bs
[2015-11-19 13:21:40] podizzler3k : im sure the people who were long arent complaining
[2015-11-19 13:22:14] wurstgelee : no dumping before settlement? no, they are not :)
[2015-11-19 13:26:27] floopfloop : any reason for the big dump?
[2015-11-19 13:26:44] slavo : http://www.coindesk.com/european-union-to-crack-down-on-bitcoin-after-paris-attacks/
[2015-11-19 13:26:55] wurstgelee : if not those fud news - no
[2015-11-19 13:26:58] wurstgelee : or those news above
[2015-11-19 13:27:25] messiaen8844 : if its on coindesk, whales paid them to put it there ;)
[2015-11-19 13:27:42] floopfloop : nobody gives a fck about the EU lol
[2015-11-19 13:27:46] wurstgelee : messiaen8844: http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/11/19/us-france-shoooting-eu-terrorism-funding-idUSKCN0T81BW20151119
[2015-11-19 13:28:00] wurstgelee : floopfloop: eu tax ruling was a good pump starting
[2015-11-19 13:28:03] messiaen8844 : yep, saw that
[2015-11-19 13:28:17] wurstgelee : messiaen8844: was for @floopfloop
[2015-11-19 13:28:18] wurstgelee : clicked wrong
[2015-11-19 13:28:27] wurstgelee : no, it was for you
[2015-11-19 13:28:37] wurstgelee : its on other sites 2 - not only coindesk
[2015-11-19 13:28:41] messiaen8844 : what I meant was that sometimes they will hide bad nes for a while, or delay good news
[2015-11-19 13:28:52] wurstgelee : ah yes, ofc
[2015-11-19 13:29:01] messiaen8844 : clearly they want to drive the market
[2015-11-19 13:29:17] messiaen8844 : any BTC media site is 100% bullshit IMHO
[2015-11-19 13:29:46] rapidtrades : did u hear about the EU
[2015-11-19 13:30:08] laisee : <blink><label colo="ed">PAID News</></blink>
[2015-11-19 13:30:24] rapidtrades : it was on reuters u tool
[2015-11-19 13:30:30] wurstgelee : i doubt that some whale padi REUTERS to post it
[2015-11-19 13:30:36] wurstgelee : *paid
[2015-11-19 13:31:05] rapidtrades : TOOL </>
[2015-11-19 13:31:20] floopfloop : rapidtrades: you are the only tool here
[2015-11-19 13:31:21] messiaen8844 : yeah, most likely some large institutional investor paid they ;)
[2015-11-19 13:31:34] laisee : ... exactly
[2015-11-19 13:31:38] rapidtrades : laisee: why is the text flashing
[2015-11-19 13:31:39] wurstgelee : or this are real news
[2015-11-19 13:31:42] messiaen8844 : welcome to centralized media
[2015-11-19 13:32:20] messiaen8844 : "a draft document seen by Reuters said." (very credible).... CITATION NEEDED
[2015-11-19 13:32:41] wurstgelee : i dont like it but makes sense from the pov of european politicians who dont know shit about crypto
[2015-11-19 13:32:52] wurstgelee : yep. not really credible but not unlikely
[2015-11-19 13:32:53] rapidtrades : messiaen8844: that's how all unconfirmed new get reported....are u ppl new to trading?
[2015-11-19 13:32:53] messiaen8844 : look who posted it
[2015-11-19 13:32:53] laisee : rapido> some silly html
[2015-11-19 13:32:54] messiaen8844 : https://twitter.com/fraguarascio?lang=pt
[2015-11-19 13:32:56] floopfloop : http://www.coindesk.com/uk-treasury-digital-currencies-low-money-laundering-risk/
[2015-11-19 13:33:21] rapidtrades : floopfloop: right don't pay attention to the flling bitcoin
[2015-11-19 13:33:53] messiaen8844 : don't get me wrong rapid, I'm shorting,
[2015-11-19 13:35:13] messiaen8844 : I just disbelief media and those reports UNTIL real information is provided
[2015-11-19 13:36:17] messiaen8844 : the REAL thing = uncertainty is bearish
[2015-11-19 13:36:22] laisee : reuters item was online 3 hrs ago ...
[2015-11-19 13:36:47] rapidtrades : hey to close a position, I just open the reverse or
[2015-11-19 13:37:26] irbbqu : ya
[2015-11-19 13:37:39] floopfloop : once everyone gets their head out of their ass lol
[2015-11-19 13:39:27] messiaen8844 : $325 will say it's beartrap or not
[2015-11-19 13:39:39] laisee : slow news day
[2015-11-19 13:40:15] laisee : messiaen8844: > on 2nd down?
[2015-11-19 13:40:39] floopfloop : to the moon
[2015-11-19 13:47:25] messiaen8844 : http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/technology-science/technology/isis-owns-small-fortune-bitcoin-6860698
[2015-11-19 13:47:36] messiaen8844 : http://www.storyclash.com/Europes-plan-to-block-terrorism-funding-Curb-bitcoin-and-anonymous-payments-6563286
[2015-11-19 13:49:19] jung1 : wtf
[2015-11-19 13:49:31] jung1 : bitcoin is more transparent that banking sysem
[2015-11-19 13:49:45] messiaen8844 : fud is getting more sophisticated
[2015-11-19 13:49:47] floopfloop : im going long
[2015-11-19 13:50:04] slacknation : what is 3million when they earn 1million from oil everyday
[2015-11-19 13:50:06] floopfloop : cheap btc for the taking right now
[2015-11-19 13:51:37] floopfloop : china dgaf about the EU lol
[2015-11-19 13:54:41] messiaen8844 : THE FUD:
[2015-11-19 13:54:42] messiaen8844 : But following last week’s terrorist attacks in Paris that killed 129 people, the EU sees bitcoin not as a purveyor of online free-trade, but a means of subverting justice by buying and selling the weapons used to conduct the heinous acts.
[2015-11-19 13:55:51] laisee : heh, unlike cash such as he EURO
[2015-11-19 13:55:52] slacknation : sell!
[2015-11-19 13:57:20] rapidtrades : no trades in 6 mins?
[2015-11-19 13:57:40] rapidtrades : tes
[2015-11-19 13:57:56] messiaen8844 : google "bitcoin terorrism" in the PAST HOUR
[2015-11-19 13:58:06] BitMEX_Sam : Market's gone sideways a bit again
[2015-11-19 13:58:27] rapidtrades : no u
[2015-11-19 14:00:22] rapidtrades : do these contracts settle on bitfinex price or is it a mix
[2015-11-19 14:01:41] slacknation : rapidtrades: go to contract specifications, what it settles on is listed
[2015-11-19 14:02:09] rapidtrades : if I wanted to read, I wouldn't ask he
[2015-11-19 14:02:14] floopfloop : omfg
[2015-11-19 14:02:35] slacknation : rapidtrades: it's not the same for all contracts bro
[2015-11-19 14:02:46] floopfloop : rapidtrades: read
[2015-11-19 14:03:08] rapidtrades : just give me a good enough answer, bro...not looking for the calculation
[2015-11-19 14:03:16] wurstgelee : lol
[2015-11-19 14:03:18] rapidtrades : finex or more?
[2015-11-19 14:03:22] wurstgelee : more
[2015-11-19 14:03:26] slacknation : tradeblock index
[2015-11-19 14:03:29] rapidtrades : cool tnx
[2015-11-19 14:04:55] rapidtrades : well we're not recovering
[2015-11-19 14:08:17] messiaen8844 : waiting for next down leg...
[2015-11-19 14:13:03] floopfloop : if you dont btc the terrorists win
[2015-11-19 14:14:04] wurstgelee : rapidtrades: maybe we are
[2015-11-19 14:17:28] floopfloop : wurstgelee: I don't listen to anything they say.
[2015-11-19 14:18:18] wurstgelee : who is i and who is they? ;)
[2015-11-19 14:22:10] rapidtrades : oh good I only lost like $4
[2015-11-19 14:22:39] rapidtrades : thought it was >15 but that was just locked margin
[2015-11-19 14:30:58] rapidtrades : we may be ready to rollover
[2015-11-19 14:45:41] podizzler3k : and you thought governments were easing up on btc
[2015-11-19 14:48:39] rapidtrades : podizzler3k: ya
[2015-11-19 14:52:24] podizzler3k : think we're in for bloody waterfalls?
[2015-11-19 14:59:22] rapidtrades : no clue im just trying stuff
[2015-11-19 14:59:39] podizzler3k : good strategy
[2015-11-19 14:59:55] rapidtrades : new to bitmex
[2015-11-19 15:07:43] messiaen8844 : http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/after-paris-attacks-europe-is-cracking-down-on-bitcoin_564ddd37e4b031745ceff479
[2015-11-19 15:08:13] podizzler3k : yeah its china all over again
[2015-11-19 15:08:32] podizzler3k : clearly bitcoin is the real enemy here
[2015-11-19 15:08:38] podizzler3k : derp
[2015-11-19 15:08:59] rapidtrades : gies
[2015-11-19 15:21:25] rapidtrades : we fell to $322 on btc-e
[2015-11-19 15:22:29] wurstgelee : btc-e is always a few dollars below everybody else
[2015-11-19 15:22:43] rapidtrades : few not
[2015-11-19 15:22:53] rapidtrades : $5
[2015-11-19 15:23:12] BitMEX_Sam : Yeah btc-e has been negative relative to the other exchanges for months
[2015-11-19 15:23:16] BitMEX_Sam : It must be difficult to get fiat out
[2015-11-19 15:25:14] BitMEX_Sam : FYI she's doing a new one in a day or two, but from a few months ago, interview with Arthur: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDikOI2kVe0
[2015-11-19 15:26:31] rapidtrades : who's arthur
[2015-11-19 15:26:51] BitMEX_Sam : Our CEO
[2015-11-19 15:28:52] rapidtrades : she?
[2015-11-19 15:29:25] wurstgelee : she doing interview with him
[2015-11-19 15:29:37] wurstgelee : open tha link and you'll see
[2015-11-19 15:29:40] wurstgelee : *t
[2015-11-19 15:30:06] rapidtrades : can't open anything atm...whole thing's gonna crash
[2015-11-19 15:30:24] rapidtrades : have too many windows open
[2015-11-19 15:33:24] rapidtrades : everyone expects a dump, prolly means its not coming
[2015-11-19 15:45:29] kendang : are the charts not updating for anyone else? "loading data"
[2015-11-19 15:46:32] rapidtrades : works for me
[2015-11-19 15:52:44] wurstgelee : yep works
[2015-11-19 16:01:04] wayann : it works
[2015-11-19 16:02:59] rapidtrades : SELL THE WORLD
[2015-11-19 16:03:37] nickhnt : u short?
[2015-11-19 16:03:43] rapidtrades : am now
[2015-11-19 16:03:56] nickhnt : why now?
[2015-11-19 16:04:21] rapidtrades : feels like its going down
[2015-11-19 16:05:10] nickhnt : yeah it can
[2015-11-19 16:05:20] nickhnt : but it can go to the top of the triangle again
[2015-11-19 16:06:25] wayann : any expert here with bitmex gui? what's doing that checkbox on the isolate margin?
[2015-11-19 16:07:55] nickhnt : wayann: you are locking the amount of margin required for the position to be liquidated
[2015-11-19 16:08:12] nickhnt : if you disable that, you will be using your entire account for the position
[2015-11-19 16:12:37] wayann : so for instance if I've 0.25x I'm locking 25 % of my entire account right?
[2015-11-19 16:13:17] BitMEX_Sam : wayann: No, if you're 0.25x that means the value of your open positions is equal to 25% of the funds in your account
[2015-11-19 16:13:36] BitMEX_Sam : If you click the isolate box, it will separate out margin, isolating the smallest amount possible to that position
[2015-11-19 16:14:08] BitMEX_Sam : Which is up to 100x depending on the contract. So if you have a 1&btc; XBT24H position, and isolate it, the system will assign 0.01&btc; to that position only
[2015-11-19 16:14:40] BitMEX_Sam : Now, that may put liquidation uncomfortably close, depending on your risk appetite. So if you want more margin of error, you can add margin using the +&btc; button
[2015-11-19 16:15:20] brucegoose : hey, hi. just signed up. thanks for the platform. good luck!
[2015-11-19 16:15:31] BitMEX_Sam : brucegoose: Nice to have you here, let me know if you have any questions.
[2015-11-19 16:16:03] wayann : so if position is loosing more then 0.01 then system will automatically close it right?
[2015-11-19 16:16:35] BitMEX_Sam : wayann: Yes, it limits your losses to 0.01. The system will actually close most positions slightly in order to attempt to get out of the position before it is negative
[2015-11-19 16:16:44] BitMEX_Sam : If we didn't do this, system losses would be much more common and affect all users negatively
[2015-11-19 16:16:56] BitMEX_Sam : See https://www.bitmex.com/app/contract/XBT24H
[2015-11-19 16:17:17] BitMEX_Sam : Namely, Initial Margin (this is what you're set to when you isolate, and is how much is required to open a position), and Maintenance Margin, which is how much is required to keep the position open.
[2015-11-19 16:18:03] wayann : so going in cross margin type is full risk mode
[2015-11-19 16:18:16] BitMEX_Sam : Yes, it will use your whole account balance to back the position
[2015-11-19 16:18:16] nickhnt : pretty much
[2015-11-19 16:18:23] BitMEX_Sam : You can lose more, but it keeps you farther from liquidation
[2015-11-19 16:18:34] BitMEX_Sam : Liquidation is costly so it is best to avoid it.
[2015-11-19 16:18:44] BitMEX_Sam : There are advantages to using either system.
[2015-11-19 16:18:48] nickhnt : yeah I lost a lot because i didnt set stop losses or fixed margins
[2015-11-19 16:19:41] wayann : yes I'm familiar with trading, it's just that I'm a newbie to bitmex
[2015-11-19 16:20:39] BitMEX_Sam : :) No worries, I usually over-explain because it's hard to know a person's experience level off the bat
[2015-11-19 16:21:17] wayann : I'm one of those that survived to MtGox
[2015-11-19 16:22:08] wayann : thx sam & nick :)
[2015-11-19 16:26:17] wayann : btw another question I've entered on a position placing different orders at different target price for example placed 50 contract sell order at 135 and 50 at 133 now how do I close a % of my position like for example 50 contracts at 10% profit and so on, is that doable here?
[2015-11-19 16:27:52] nickhnt : wayann: no problem :)
[2015-11-19 16:28:42] BitMEX_Sam : So have you actually opened the position wayann or are those order still live?
[2015-11-19 16:28:55] BitMEX_Sam : You could just put buy limits in the book at your target price
[2015-11-19 16:29:47] wayann : ok same way like finex does
[2015-11-19 16:29:50] nickhnt : well you can calculate how much you will gain from the calculator that bitmex offers
[2015-11-19 16:30:44] wayann : yes I opened very small position to test it out basically
[2015-11-19 16:31:23] nickhnt : open the Order Options at the top of order controls panel
[2015-11-19 16:31:31] nickhnt : there's a calculator there
[2015-11-19 16:31:41] wayann : yes I saw that, it's very handy!
[2015-11-19 16:31:48] BitMEX_Sam : A big part of the reason we denominate in contracts and not in Bitcoin is because it makes it much easier to adjust positions dynamically
[2015-11-19 16:31:49] nickhnt : yes it is :)
[2015-11-19 16:31:54] BitMEX_Sam : Since the Bitcoin value of them actually changes as the price moves
[2015-11-19 16:32:15] BitMEX_Sam : So rather than having to open close whole positions individually (and having multiple positions per contract), you have a single position you can increase or decrease (or even flip) at will
[2015-11-19 16:33:45] wayann : at the beginning the learning curve is steeper but afterwards looks like driving with autopilot
[2015-11-19 16:35:06] BitMEX_Sam : Agreed, it's definitely more up-front confusion (we're working on that) but we firmly believe we have a better system
[2015-11-19 16:36:49] nickhnt : At first I was a little confused about this whole contracts thing, but nowadays i got used to, its easier to handle positions now
[2015-11-19 16:37:13] wayann : yes indeed
[2015-11-19 16:40:32] wayann : another question let's say you open a cross margin type position, you're position is with X% profit is possible to change it to isolated type?
[2015-11-19 16:41:08] wayann : if so does it liquidate the position? or simply swap from margin type?
[2015-11-19 16:45:51] nickhnt : yes you can change isolate to cross anytime
[2015-11-19 16:47:33] nickhnt : i just don't know if you are in a losing position and then you turn to isolate it will liquidate the position
[2015-11-19 16:47:39] BitMEX_Sam : Yeah, simply switching to isolated won't liquidate.
[2015-11-19 16:47:47] BitMEX_Sam : It will refill the margin to the initial margin %
[2015-11-19 16:47:52] BitMEX_Sam : Even if losing.
[2015-11-19 16:48:10] TschavaTschigger : cool, didn't know that
[2015-11-19 16:48:26] wayann : perfect good to know
[2015-11-19 16:48:35] floopfloop : TschavaTschigger: me either
[2015-11-19 16:50:51] BitMEX_Sam : I'll add a note about that to the tooltip
[2015-11-19 16:51:15] wayann : those tooltip are godsends
[2015-11-19 16:51:20] wayann : tooltips*
[2015-11-19 16:51:28] floopfloop : BitMEX_Sam: you better.....or im bringing my funds to okcoin :p
[2015-11-19 16:52:43] floopfloop : id be happen if i broke even on my position right now sigh
[2015-11-19 17:11:48] floopfloop : omgomgomgomg
[2015-11-19 17:12:10] podizzler3k : how you doin to day floopfloop
[2015-11-19 17:12:25] floopfloop : a little pissed of
[2015-11-19 17:12:45] floopfloop : had a short at close, lost on it, then btc dropped $10
[2015-11-19 17:14:51] podizzler3k : ah yea that sucks
[2015-11-19 17:14:55] podizzler3k : thats why i play 7d
[2015-11-19 17:15:04] podizzler3k : dont have to worry about every morning getting reset
[2015-11-19 17:21:55] floopfloop : hmmm should i get rid of this long? lol
[2015-11-19 18:30:20] podizzler3k : is bitmex us based are all our funds going to be seized after tomorrows special meeting?
[2015-11-19 18:30:27] podizzler3k : EU based i mean
[2015-11-19 18:32:18] messiaen8844 : they wil ban bitcoin and erase the blockchain
[2015-11-19 18:32:31] BitMEX_Sam : Not a chance
[2015-11-19 18:32:41] BitMEX_Sam : It's all FUD anyhow, some articles are reporting that Bitcoin may not even be on the agenda
[2015-11-19 18:37:32] floopfloop : wish I hadn't sold part of my long
[2015-11-19 18:37:44] floopfloop : but the market was iffy there for a sec and I was too deep lol
[2015-11-19 18:41:44] singularity321 : BitMEX_Sam: Could you post any links to said articles please
[2015-11-19 18:42:11] singularity321 : If you're not busy
[2015-11-19 18:43:04] BitMEX_Sam : Read between the lines of http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKCN0T81BW20151119 and what they're actually referencing
[2015-11-19 18:43:11] BitMEX_Sam : And see the discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10594453
[2015-11-19 19:07:32] lockhedge : you can buy a virtual Mastercard (cash4web) or a Bitcoin voucher (Coinfinity) in every tobacco store in Austria anonymously - in other EU countries you have to show your ID - i doubt that the EU will forbid Mastercard or Bitcoin, but firms like cash4web or Coinfinity will very probably have to level up KYC requirements
[2015-11-19 19:13:34] TschavaTschigger : do you work at coinfinity?
[2015-11-19 19:19:55] singularity321 : BitMEX_Sam: thanks for the ycom thread and article sam
[2015-11-19 19:25:53] lockhedge : Leak: Draft conclusions of tomorrow's Justice and Home Affairs Council https://twitter.com/RobotFinance/status/667423316538499073
[2015-11-19 19:26:34] lockhedge : this is the "draft document seen by Reuters "
[2015-11-19 19:27:11] wurstgelee : lol
[2015-11-19 19:27:41] wurstgelee : "draft"....
[2015-11-19 19:27:43] lockhedge : TschavaTschigger: no, but worked in Brussels on privacy and financial markets issues for some years
[2015-11-19 19:30:45] wurstgelee : 19:32 - messiaen8844: they wil ban bitcoin and erase the blockchain
[2015-11-19 19:30:48] wurstgelee : lol?