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<< >> English 中文 Русский 한국어 日本語 Español Français [2017-03-13 08:41:21] QuinnTrades : polo [2017-03-13 08:41:22] QuinnTrades : * [2017-03-13 08:41:40] QuinnTrades : low leverage but with 10-15% swings its fine [2017-03-13 08:41:45] Ahhere : Actualiteit: same made more from rotating into eth recently than I did from 3 months trading btc [2017-03-13 08:42:19] Ahhere : QuinnTrades: yeah but i find it hard to do longer term trades. alts do nothing for 2 years then explode [2017-03-13 08:42:42] QuinnTrades : Ahhere: Hoping eth comes up this year, feel like it might [2017-03-13 08:43:13] QuinnTrades : mostly cos the infighting over btc is so fucking annoying [2017-03-13 08:43:32] Ahhere : i would not be shockd at 100$ - the infighting is not so bad [2017-03-13 08:43:47] Actualiteit : Id like eth to go big this time, don't like the hardforks though, kinda defeats the whole decentralized thing [2017-03-13 08:43:47] Ahhere : its like two parents arguing who loves the kid more [2017-03-13 08:43:49] Actualiteit : did provide nice dips tho [2017-03-13 08:43:51] Ahhere : kid will be fine [2017-03-13 08:44:22] QuinnTrades : Oh yeah I think it'll be fine, but it doesnt take much to rocket the alt prices [2017-03-13 08:44:32] QuinnTrades : I mean those will go up, rather than btc going down [2017-03-13 08:45:03] Ahhere : is it insane to trade eth here? dont trust polo and withdrawal restrictions are gay there if your alts rocket [2017-03-13 08:45:34] QuinnTrades : idk, last night I lost 0.3 btc on a long of dash [2017-03-13 08:45:39] QuinnTrades : dash went up everywhere else [2017-03-13 08:45:42] QuinnTrades : and went down on here [2017-03-13 08:45:45] Ahhere : ffs [2017-03-13 08:45:52] QuinnTrades : got so fucked [2017-03-13 08:45:58] QuinnTrades : so i'm just leaving them lol [2017-03-13 08:47:18] Ahhere : 10or 20 x in the right direction could make so much money tho lol. v tempting [2017-03-13 08:47:42] QuinnTrades : if you go for it, let me know if it works out [2017-03-13 08:47:52] QuinnTrades : I'd love to be able to :p [2017-03-13 08:49:39] Ahhere : maybe I should short dash again [2017-03-13 08:53:30] vonklo : 1230 broken [2017-03-13 08:53:48] QuinnTrades : did you just short dash @Ahhere [2017-03-13 08:54:03] QuinnTrades : it just jumped up lol [2017-03-13 08:54:40] Ahhere : just sold 50 contracts, I'll try and get another 150 around 0.065 and bet on 0.05 before 0.07 [2017-03-13 08:55:10] QuinnTrades : gl [2017-03-13 08:55:29] Ahhere : just a bit of revenge trading sold all my dash at 5 dollars lol [2017-03-13 08:55:37] Actualiteit : get them profits mayne, I'm keeping my hand s off of it [2017-03-13 08:55:37] Actualiteit : ouch [2017-03-13 08:55:42] QuinnTrades : haha [2017-03-13 08:55:52] Actualiteit : well who wouldve knopwn it would take off to these levels [2017-03-13 08:56:20] Actualiteit : I mean I was thinking "yeah this pump is over" at 25$ [2017-03-13 08:56:33] Ahhere : crazy I thought it was a rip off at 15$ [2017-03-13 09:05:41] Ahhere : good r/r short dash here (famous last words lol) [2017-03-13 09:08:47] ross : I think you'll see dash ath again before it drops [2017-03-13 09:10:04] aron : quinntrades were u making a joke or is Dash really quite manupilatable [2017-03-13 09:10:42] djkaltenudel : /rekt [2017-03-13 09:10:42] trollbot : ``` 3 recent REKTs > 100K: ``` ``` 36 hours, 56 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 233932 @ 1166.68 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire: ``` ``` 48 hours, 13 mins ago: Liquidated short on `XBTH17`: buy 235337 @ 1196.58 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire: ``` ``` 58 hours, 58 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBCH17`: sell 235620 @ 7605.8 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire: ``` [2017-03-13 09:11:11] QuinnTrades : aron: No I literally was forced to close an order at -500 ROE because it was going down on here while it went up everywhere else [2017-03-13 09:11:38] aron : but i thought the mark price stopped this form happening [2017-03-13 09:11:51] aron : it should give u the fair price and not last price for liquidation [2017-03-13 09:12:29] QuinnTrades : mark price is an indicator, it's pretty irrelivant on the exchange you trade on [2017-03-13 09:12:44] aron : quinntrades shouldnt we buy dash right now then [2017-03-13 09:12:52] aron : if its going up everywhere else [2017-03-13 09:13:27] QuinnTrades : you'd think [2017-03-13 09:13:34] QuinnTrades : Tried that [2017-03-13 09:13:40] QuinnTrades : and it kept going up everywhere else [2017-03-13 09:13:47] QuinnTrades : and went down on here and fked me [2017-03-13 09:13:56] Ahhere : its lower here because much more people are selling [2017-03-13 09:14:02] aron : if u put min leverage then u dont have to liquidate [2017-03-13 09:14:16] aron : i mean u have to put at a really low price [2017-03-13 09:14:22] Ahhere : whereas on polo there are some actual buyers of 'physical' dash [2017-03-13 09:14:27] aron : but not put* [2017-03-13 09:14:48] aron : cant i buy here and sell on polo? [2017-03-13 09:15:37] QuinnTrades : You're not getting dash here [2017-03-13 09:15:48] QuinnTrades : you're buying and selling contracts [2017-03-13 09:15:51] QuinnTrades : everything is btc [2017-03-13 09:15:59] Ahhere : dirty derivatives [2017-03-13 09:16:12] aron : i see [2017-03-13 09:16:58] aron : quinntrades whats ur positon on xbt? [2017-03-13 09:17:16] aron : i think xbt is easier to profit from instead of dash [2017-03-13 09:18:08] QuinnTrades : aron: small long [2017-03-13 09:18:41] aron : small means low number of contracts or a short duration of time? [2017-03-13 09:18:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `DASH7D`: buy 8 @ 0.061334 [2017-03-13 09:19:42] QuinnTrades : low number of contracts [2017-03-13 09:20:36] aron : /guide [2017-03-13 09:20:36] trollbot : ``` Dear newcomer Please watch this video to get started with BitMex: ``` https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSh2bM3UP04 ``` Also make sure to read the docs: ``` https://www.bitmex.com/app/tradingOverview ``` Remember to trade small with low leverage until you understand how things work, otherwise you will get liquidated (REKT) pretty soon :boom: ``` [2017-03-13 09:21:07] aron : /joke [2017-03-13 09:21:08] trollbot : ``` Do you know what DNA is an acronym for? The National Dyslexia Association ``` [2017-03-13 09:21:17] aron : lol [2017-03-13 09:21:29] Yazz : ha... didn't know that command [2017-03-13 09:22:19] Ahhere : /amihomosexual [2017-03-13 09:22:26] aron : yes [2017-03-13 09:22:33] Ahhere : nice thx [2017-03-13 09:22:44] aron : anytime [2017-03-13 09:22:44] Yazz : which exchanges do you guys reference for price leading? [2017-03-13 09:22:51] aron : XBT [2017-03-13 09:23:04] QuinnTrades : /price [2017-03-13 09:23:07] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1231.00 (0.68%) Bitfinex : 1225.90 (0.88%) The Woodchipper : 1234.93 (0.34%) itBit : 1229.83 (0.65%) Kraken : 1221.00 (1.41%) GDAX : 1228.87 (0.56%) SLQ : 1 hour, 47 mins``` [2017-03-13 09:23:14] Yazz : No I mean which BTC echange [2017-03-13 09:23:20] InvalidUser : Sweet TY Bitmex,, just read my email. [2017-03-13 09:23:33] aron : what happened IU [2017-03-13 09:23:58] Ahhere : dash about to make a move which way tho... [2017-03-13 09:24:22] aron : up [2017-03-13 09:24:49] Ahhere : bitcoin also getting close to trendline, I'm hoping bitcoin decides for dash [2017-03-13 09:25:47] KyllingLolsson : Ahhere: how ya doin [2017-03-13 09:26:18] zaico : if the fund interval has changed to 2 hours why it shows a 8 hour period on "Funding History" and "Contract Specification" [2017-03-13 09:26:18] Ahhere : KyllingLolsson: all good missus gone to gym baby gone asleep, preworkout taken ready to rock [2017-03-13 09:26:20] zaico : ¿ [2017-03-13 09:26:21] aron : quinntrades I shorted xbt using Limit and then I wanted to buy it using Limit but it closed my position on short [2017-03-13 09:26:24] Ahhere : u? @KyllingLolsson [2017-03-13 09:26:33] aron : is there a way i can simaltaneously do both [2017-03-13 09:26:50] aron : i want 1 contract for buy and 1 for sell [2017-03-13 09:26:58] QuinnTrades : You can't long and sell at the same time [2017-03-13 09:27:05] djkaltenudel : not here [2017-03-13 09:27:06] KyllingLolsson : Ahhere: niceee, golden moments. Im at work right now, desk job :) [2017-03-13 09:27:08] QuinnTrades : you're betting for it to go up and down at the same time [2017-03-13 09:27:09] djkaltenudel : on okcoin you can do it [2017-03-13 09:27:20] KyllingLolsson : QuinnTrades: yes u can! [2017-03-13 09:27:38] QuinnTrades : not here, your orders merge [2017-03-13 09:27:41] KyllingLolsson : on 2 different accounts :D [2017-03-13 09:27:45] QuinnTrades : lol [2017-03-13 09:27:46] QuinnTrades : sure [2017-03-13 09:27:49] Ahhere : KyllingLolsson: "working" ;) [2017-03-13 09:27:54] KyllingLolsson : :d [2017-03-13 09:27:55] KyllingLolsson : :D [2017-03-13 09:28:12] KyllingLolsson : i just watch the prie and wait [2017-03-13 09:28:17] aron : quinntrades why dont they let us do this [2017-03-13 09:29:16] Ahhere : ok fuck switched sides dash going up looks like [2017-03-13 09:29:46] aron : if I had 2 laptops I would make soo much money buy shorting and longing simaltaneously [2017-03-13 09:29:54] Ahhere : aron: lol wat [2017-03-13 09:30:15] aron : Ahhere xbt is 1233.21 right now [2017-03-13 09:30:22] aron : if i buy and sell at same time [2017-03-13 09:30:34] aron : 1 contract each (sorry i meant long short) [2017-03-13 09:30:58] aron : and when price goes up i sell my buy contract (position close) [2017-03-13 09:31:15] aron : and when price goes down i buy my short contract (position close) [2017-03-13 09:31:15] zaico : People, how do you hedge while taking profit from negative long funding? Whith shorts it easy: buy btc with fiat and short btc. But whit longs? [2017-03-13 09:31:34] Ahhere : aron: http://www.investopedia.com/terms/w/whipsaw.asp likely to get whipsawed in crypto [2017-03-13 09:31:36] aron : buy long and wait [2017-03-13 09:32:05] zaico : aron: there is no hedge there. If it goes bullish you lose money [2017-03-13 09:32:11] zaico : sorry [2017-03-13 09:32:13] zaico : bearish [2017-03-13 09:32:18] BarefootFlash : Long term position and short term position [2017-03-13 09:32:33] aron : zaico it has been bullish trending [2017-03-13 09:32:34] BarefootFlash : That's what I like to do, too [2017-03-13 09:33:18] Ahhere : straddle trade I think its called [2017-03-13 09:33:19] zaico : BarefootFlash: are you talking about taking profit with fundings? [2017-03-13 09:33:34] BarefootFlash : Sorry, no. Previous convo [2017-03-13 09:33:49] aron : XBT was 1221 at 8:07 am now its like 1233, profitable to short? [2017-03-13 09:34:42] aron : quinntrades what do u think [2017-03-13 09:36:36] Ahhere : aron: nobody knows the future dude looks bullish to me especially given the lack of fuks given to fridays news and new investor money arriving on exchanges in the next few days [2017-03-13 09:37:03] aron : ahhere but it went down on friday [2017-03-13 09:37:53] Ahhere : yes but people called for $800 coins if etf rejected [2017-03-13 09:38:06] Ahhere : and here we are creeping to ath [2017-03-13 09:38:09] aron : what does that mean [2017-03-13 09:38:14] aron : called for [2017-03-13 09:38:22] Ahhere : lol ur a good troll [2017-03-13 09:38:32] aron : called for means bought right [2017-03-13 09:38:46] Ahhere : predicted [2017-03-13 09:39:01] aron : Ahhere what if i predicted it to go down [2017-03-13 09:39:10] aron : and sold 100 usd worth coins [2017-03-13 09:39:18] Ahhere : u nearly had me again damn great trolling [2017-03-13 09:39:20] aron : but kept 100 usd worth bitcoins [2017-03-13 09:39:28] djkaltenudel : lol [2017-03-13 09:39:33] rapidtrades : HOW HIGH CAN THIS SHIT GO MAN? [2017-03-13 09:39:33] aron : in case it went up [2017-03-13 09:40:02] BarefootFlash : rapidtrades: WHO KNOWS!? [2017-03-13 09:40:19] BarefootFlash : $1500??? [2017-03-13 09:40:27] rapidtrades : $1,000,000 maybe? [2017-03-13 09:40:29] Ahhere : aron: thats called hedgehogging http://www.investopedia.com/terms/h/hedge.asp [2017-03-13 09:40:41] BarefootFlash : Yeah! Maybe [2017-03-13 09:41:01] BarefootFlash : Maybe even $2,000,000 [2017-03-13 09:41:08] Ahhere : lol this piece of shit dash is going up [2017-03-13 09:44:00] Actualiteit : Dash is a gamble atm [2017-03-13 09:44:43] MichaelKade : Are we expecting any drops or is this pace gonna keep up? [2017-03-13 09:45:01] Actualiteit : Are there any fundamentals behind its rise btw? [2017-03-13 09:45:40] ross : Actualiteit: pump coin [2017-03-13 09:45:57] Actualiteit : ross: pretty sick pump then, thnx m8 [2017-03-13 09:46:14] Ahhere : Actualiteit: the theory is its the perfect crypto - fast transactions, privacy and fungibility, proof of stake and interest payouts for those holders with masternodes. and a team that is dynamic unlike sluggish bitcoin [2017-03-13 09:46:16] heheh lo : Actualiteit: we all know dash is a scam from the start [2017-03-13 09:46:26] Ahhere : the reality is it is a premine scam^^^ [2017-03-13 09:46:44] heheh lo : xcoin darkcoin then bom dash is born [2017-03-13 09:47:08] heheh lo : literally they treating all the buyers like 3 year old [2017-03-13 09:47:21] Ahhere : if they burned the 1.5 million (out of 7 million only!) premine then I'd take them seriously [2017-03-13 09:47:22] Actualiteit : lmao well thats great [2017-03-13 09:48:18] heheh lo : they are probably mass staking their own, sitting on a huge profit which completed by ignorant buyers [2017-03-13 09:48:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `DASH7D`: buy 19 @ 0.061462 [2017-03-13 09:48:33] heheh lo : "wowzor free pump again today" [2017-03-13 09:48:49] heheh lo : fucking dash [2017-03-13 09:48:53] Ahhere : heheh lo: but do they dump or stay greedy.. I'm sure they start to like the smell of their own bullshit by now [2017-03-13 09:49:16] heheh lo : Ahhere: probably dumped like 50% of what they have own from the start [2017-03-13 09:49:33] ross : People talk of 0.07 or 0.1 personally I'm getting out at 0.067 [2017-03-13 09:50:35] heheh lo : even shitcoin like ltc doesnt smell like dash [2017-03-13 09:51:25] Ahhere : ross: its possible one or more alts will repeat LTC crazy antics of 2013 and btc hasnt even peaked yet IMO [2017-03-13 09:51:38] Ahhere : could be DASH [2017-03-13 09:56:21] KyllingLolsson : /sentiment [2017-03-13 09:56:23] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 26.19 / 73.81 Daily : 44.60 / 55.40 Weekly : 50.80 / 49.20 Monthly : 50.36 / 49.65``` [2017-03-13 09:58:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 3426 @ 1229.00 [2017-03-13 09:59:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 140 @ 1227.84 [2017-03-13 09:59:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 60 @ 1228.19 [2017-03-13 09:59:12] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 50 @ 1227.15 [2017-03-13 09:59:57] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 6000 @ 1226.70 [2017-03-13 09:59:57] REKT : Next stop - goblin town! [2017-03-13 09:59:59] Ahhere : yowza [2017-03-13 10:00:10] Actualiteit : yuuuuuge rekts [2017-03-13 10:00:11] Actualiteit : ... [2017-03-13 10:00:45] Ahhere : Actualiteit: yep big fish suffering amirite [2017-03-13 10:01:07] Actualiteit : das rite mayne [2017-03-13 10:02:12] Ahhere : got filled in one of my bigger orders :) [2017-03-13 10:03:03] wurstgelee : thank gawd for the upcoming index change [2017-03-13 10:03:09] wurstgelee : was about time [2017-03-13 10:03:52] Ahhere : oh didnt hear? @wurstgelee [2017-03-13 10:04:00] Ahhere : okc gone? [2017-03-13 10:04:00] wurstgelee : read your emails [2017-03-13 10:04:01] wurstgelee : ;) [2017-03-13 10:04:01] thedukedog : How we Do I g [2017-03-13 10:04:06] thedukedog : Doing [2017-03-13 10:06:44] Ahhere : wurstgelee: thats good news less manipulation [2017-03-13 10:09:38] Ahhere : thedukedog: gud u? [2017-03-13 10:10:01] thedukedog : Gooood [2017-03-13 10:10:15] Ahhere : lol #winning? [2017-03-13 10:12:08] thedukedog : Yeah when I dont get liquidated lol [2017-03-13 10:12:32] Ahhere : fuking opposite traders! [2017-03-13 10:13:10] Billybtc : When is the btc hardfork take place? [2017-03-13 10:13:51] Tetsuo : tomorrow 4:20 pm [2017-03-13 10:13:52] Ahhere : oh man sooner the better all in btc the night before that shit for me [2017-03-13 10:14:47] thedukedog : How serious is this hard fork news [2017-03-13 10:14:55] thedukedog : I thought it was rumors [2017-03-13 10:15:20] Ahhere : approimately as serious as cancer I believe @thedukedog [2017-03-13 10:15:20] Billybtc : Saw it all over Reddit. Idk [2017-03-13 10:15:22] thedukedog : Sorry ill research on my own [2017-03-13 10:15:46] thedukedog : Rsddits filled w manipulation [2017-03-13 10:16:00] thedukedog : Esp bitcoinand bitcoinmarkets [2017-03-13 10:16:04] thedukedog : Just be wary [2017-03-13 10:16:50] thedukedog : Look at the_donald during the election [2017-03-13 10:17:07] InvalidUser : Big pump on BS [2017-03-13 10:17:08] thedukedog : Thousands of Russian trolls paid [2017-03-13 10:17:53] thedukedog : I'm going long [2017-03-13 10:17:55] thedukedog : Long [2017-03-13 10:19:33] Ahhere : /price [2017-03-13 10:19:34] thedukedog : Go long peeps [2017-03-13 10:19:37] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1228.19 (-0.23%) Bitfinex : 1224.50 (-0.11%) The Woodchipper : 1230.61 (-0.35%) itBit : 1226.30 (-0.29%) Kraken : 1210.00 (-0.90%) GDAX : 1233.11 (0.35%) SLQ : 56 mins``` [2017-03-13 10:19:45] InvalidUser : Long it is [2017-03-13 10:20:00] thedukedog : I predict 124 then it'll drop a bit [2017-03-13 10:20:10] thedukedog : 1144 [2017-03-13 10:20:29] thedukedog : Sorry 124r [2017-03-13 10:20:35] thedukedog : 1244 [2017-03-13 10:21:06] KyllingLolsson : what :D [2017-03-13 10:21:12] KyllingLolsson : 124355? [2017-03-13 10:21:53] Ahhere : yes today [2017-03-13 10:22:00] Ahhere : very specific target [2017-03-13 10:22:36] Actualiteit : /wall [2017-03-13 10:22:40] trollbot : ``` ±$10 Bid|Ask liq : (2 hours, 54 mins) $845K (113.85%) | $1873K (-3.05%) ``` [2017-03-13 10:23:49] Ahhere : strong hands these days [2017-03-13 10:27:31] Gr33d : /sentiment [2017-03-13 10:27:34] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 29.36 / 70.64 Daily : 44.41 / 55.59 Weekly : 50.80 / 49.20 Monthly : 50.34 / 49.66``` [2017-03-13 10:28:56] InvalidUser : Monthly contracts are fighting to buy in [2017-03-13 10:30:24] thedukedog : Gotta fight liquidation one sec [2017-03-13 10:30:43] rapidtrades : so many dumb money here, it scary to think how low prices will go once we crash [2017-03-13 10:30:45] Ahhere : thedukedog: struggle is real [2017-03-13 10:30:59] Ahhere : rapidtrades: smart money short from 800 [2017-03-13 10:31:11] thedukedog : Yeah at 100x too Yolo [2017-03-13 10:31:22] laisee : U say that like its a bad thing @rapido [2017-03-13 10:31:43] thedukedog : Buying 1000 short to get my funds back [2017-03-13 10:32:09] laisee : sounds like a plan [2017-03-13 10:32:29] thedukedog : Going to go down for a sec [2017-03-13 10:33:02] thedukedog : Okay we should be good [2017-03-13 10:33:51] laisee : what a curse that would be. To know the future for next 10 secs only at random times [2017-03-13 10:34:26] thedukedog : No I meant the price [2017-03-13 10:34:30] thedukedog : See [2017-03-13 10:34:37] thedukedog : Back up [2017-03-13 10:34:52] thedukedog : The boys are listening lol [2017-03-13 10:34:57] thedukedog : Bots6 [2017-03-13 10:35:01] thedukedog : Bots [2017-03-13 10:35:16] thedukedog : Phonekeyboards... [2017-03-13 10:35:22] thedukedog : Need my mechanical [2017-03-13 10:35:48] thedukedog : Spoon - the underdog is a good song for today [2017-03-13 10:36:27] aron : if i buy 1225 quantity at entry price 1225 and exit price is 2450 then I get profit of 0.5 [2017-03-13 10:36:36] aron : shouldnt profit be more? [2017-03-13 10:37:02] thedukedog : Nope [2017-03-13 10:37:02] micmix : aron: no, the math works this way [2017-03-13 10:37:18] thedukedog : If you borrow 100 you dont get 100 percent of the profits [2017-03-13 10:37:28] aron : im not borrowing [2017-03-13 10:37:31] thedukedog : Oh [2017-03-13 10:37:32] thedukedog : Sorry [2017-03-13 10:37:34] aron : im putting my money [2017-03-13 10:37:39] thedukedog : Your not on margin? [2017-03-13 10:37:50] micmix : aron: you double your USD [2017-03-13 10:37:50] aron : it does show margin as 0.5 [2017-03-13 10:37:59] thedukedog : Lol I'm at 100x [2017-03-13 10:38:00] micmix : not your bitcoin [2017-03-13 10:38:13] thedukedog : To the moon [2017-03-13 10:38:30] aron : micmix okay then shouldnt profit be lower than 0.5? [2017-03-13 10:38:34] thedukedog : Gotta get it up to 1244 brb [2017-03-13 10:38:36] mdsmm : Gooooood days [2017-03-13 10:38:37] aron : because of fees [2017-03-13 10:38:58] aron : or is it 0.5 because of fees? [2017-03-13 10:39:13] BarefootFlash : aron: have you opened a position yet? [2017-03-13 10:39:18] aron : no [2017-03-13 10:39:22] BarefootFlash : Ok, good [2017-03-13 10:39:22] aron : im using calculator [2017-03-13 10:39:30] BarefootFlash : What is it that you want to do? [2017-03-13 10:39:31] micmix : aron: it will be lower, calculator doesn't take fees into account [2017-03-13 10:39:59] aron : Barefootflash I want to long btc [2017-03-13 10:40:04] aron : and sell it when it doubles [2017-03-13 10:40:09] BarefootFlash : With how much of your money? [2017-03-13 10:40:21] aron : 10 usd [2017-03-13 10:40:36] BarefootFlash : At what margin? [2017-03-13 10:40:39] aron : 0 [2017-03-13 10:40:47] BarefootFlash : 1x, 2x, 5x, 10x [2017-03-13 10:40:57] BarefootFlash : So, 1x? [2017-03-13 10:41:01] aron : yes [2017-03-13 10:41:24] BarefootFlash : You won't double your $10 [2017-03-13 10:41:33] aron : how do i double it [2017-03-13 10:41:38] aron : 2x leverage? [2017-03-13 10:42:01] thedukedog : Damnit liquidated [2017-03-13 10:42:13] BarefootFlash : You would need to use leverage, but I'd suggest starting out with a small amount and small leverage, until you get more comfortable with the platform [2017-03-13 10:42:27] Apocalyptic : BarefootFlash: of course he will, learn your math [2017-03-13 10:42:30] thedukedog : Trurth @barefootflash [2017-03-13 10:42:35] Ahhere : aron: try trading the test platform you can lose all the fake money you want [2017-03-13 10:42:37] Apocalyptic : you can double USD on 1x [2017-03-13 10:42:40] thedukedog : Don't be like me and loose 800 in one weekend [2017-03-13 10:42:54] thedukedog : Better than going to vegas tho lol [2017-03-13 10:43:07] BarefootFlash : Apocalyptic: Only if btc price doubles, haha [2017-03-13 10:43:07] aron : someone told me that if I bought 1 btc with 100x leverage and btc rose by 1 percent i would double my btc [2017-03-13 10:43:10] aron : is that correct? [2017-03-13 10:43:11] thedukedog : Lose* [2017-03-13 10:43:14] Apocalyptic : BarefootFlash: yes [2017-03-13 10:43:17] Ahhere : do you have strippers in your house? @thedukedog [2017-03-13 10:43:23] Apocalyptic : that was his plan if you read above [2017-03-13 10:43:27] Actualiteit : aron: you'd get liqd before anything happens prolly [2017-03-13 10:43:34] thedukedog : Not yet but i want to get an x pole installed [2017-03-13 10:43:36] thedukedog : Lol [2017-03-13 10:43:45] aron : actualite im not going to do it [2017-03-13 10:43:50] aron : i just want to know the concept [2017-03-13 10:43:59] thedukedog : Met a stripper once in Myrtle beach that had one installed at her apartment [2017-03-13 10:44:02] aron : i want to know if i have the concept of leverage right [2017-03-13 10:44:08] Actualiteit : aron: I see [2017-03-13 10:44:13] Ahhere : aron: test first [2017-03-13 10:44:17] thedukedog : Read the fans [2017-03-13 10:44:22] thedukedog : So much info man [2017-03-13 10:44:25] aron : because i keep playing with leverage and it doesnt affect my P&L [2017-03-13 10:44:28] thedukedog : Faq [2017-03-13 10:44:39] aron : thedukedog i did read it [2017-03-13 10:45:38] Ahhere : aron: simulated trading https://testnet.bitmex.com/ [2017-03-13 10:45:49] BarefootFlash : ^ [2017-03-13 10:45:49] Ahhere : its like wearing a condom [2017-03-13 10:45:58] Ahhere : instead of catching hiv [2017-03-13 10:46:06] aron : lol [2017-03-13 10:46:14] Ahhere : not as much fun [2017-03-13 10:46:35] aron : can someone tell me what position i should have if i expect bitcoin to increase by the end of the year? [2017-03-13 10:46:49] thedukedog : fuck no [2017-03-13 10:46:57] thedukedog : are you dim? [2017-03-13 10:47:10] thedukedog : If we knew what the price of btc would be in a year.... well we dont [2017-03-13 10:47:10] Actualiteit : thedukedog: Stop fucking say fuck you fucker [2017-03-13 10:47:25] thedukedog : what is with this fucking censor [2017-03-13 10:47:28] thedukedog : are we 14 [2017-03-13 10:47:32] Actualiteit : thedukedog: It's glorious [2017-03-13 10:47:34] Ahhere : your position should be as big as you want to risk with a liquidation 100$ lower than you expect bitcoin to go on the way to your target [2017-03-13 10:47:35] elmorte : 12 [2017-03-13 10:47:37] aron : thedukedog i think it will be above 1500 this year [2017-03-13 10:48:10] thedukedog : for sure [2017-03-13 10:48:18] thedukedog : it was up 200 over ETF failing lol [2017-03-13 10:48:23] aron : Ahhere I expect bitcoin to go down about 800 min [2017-03-13 10:48:24] thedukedog : we could see 1500 this week [2017-03-13 10:48:42] Actualiteit : There is a possibility we see 4000 this week [2017-03-13 10:48:42] thedukedog : thats what someone was claiming here yesterday [2017-03-13 10:48:47] thedukedog : saying they have insider info [2017-03-13 10:48:52] thedukedog : but I think itll go up [2017-03-13 10:49:00] thedukedog : trailing stop losses are your friend [2017-03-13 10:49:05] Ahhere : aron: so make sure your liquidation is 700 and wait [2017-03-13 10:49:12] Ahhere : trailing stops are shit imo [2017-03-13 10:49:19] zy : no no no, you all wrong, 10k by end of year [2017-03-13 10:49:24] thedukedog : guys if you get stressed today play your favorite song [2017-03-13 10:49:25] thedukedog : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-_NNIX8cDA [2017-03-13 10:49:28] aron : leveraging is useless why do u guys do it? [2017-03-13 10:49:33] Actualiteit : zy: Dont be so pessimistic. 100k tomorrow [2017-03-13 10:49:38] InvalidUser : We have been in the news a few times in the past 2 weeks ETF and ATH [2017-03-13 10:49:41] aron : it doesnt increase your profits [2017-03-13 10:49:53] thedukedog : its going to be a tumultuous day [2017-03-13 10:50:16] arbitrage101 : tick size will change to 0.1 [2017-03-13 10:50:38] Apocalyptic : arbitrage101: that's good [2017-03-13 10:50:45] Apocalyptic : the orderbooks will be less spammy [2017-03-13 10:50:54] thedukedog : yeah also diversify your funds [2017-03-13 10:51:05] zy : funding still negative [2017-03-13 10:51:12] vonklo : arbitrage101: what? [2017-03-13 10:51:15] thedukedog : go negative for a while [2017-03-13 10:51:20] thedukedog : like go shor [2017-03-13 10:51:41] thedukedog : happened to me too [2017-03-13 10:51:44] thedukedog : they dont show fees [2017-03-13 10:51:50] thedukedog : til you add more money [2017-03-13 10:51:54] thedukedog : then they minus the fees [2017-03-13 10:51:56] thedukedog : pretty scummy [2017-03-13 10:51:59] InvalidUser : Apocalyptic: Change the grouping to 0.10 or 0.25 to filter out the bots fighting for pennys. [2017-03-13 10:52:12] Apocalyptic : InvalidUser: visually it does the trick yes [2017-03-13 10:52:20] Ahhere : aron: lol cos you can turn 1 btc into 100 on a small % move if you are correct. or lose all your prinicipal on a small move [2017-03-13 10:52:29] Apocalyptic : but it's better to have it enforced by the trading engine [2017-03-13 10:52:35] Apocalyptic : for various reasons [2017-03-13 10:52:54] aron : ahhere can u give an example? [2017-03-13 10:53:17] aron : if i can make 1 btc into 100 then i can turn 0.01 btc into 1 [2017-03-13 10:53:33] Ahhere : lot of luck [2017-03-13 10:53:44] Ahhere : or inside info [2017-03-13 10:54:10] thedukedog : so is the ROE calc bs? [2017-03-13 10:54:18] thedukedog : thats what Sultan was saying yesterday [2017-03-13 10:54:36] thedukedog : started margin on friday so learning on the job [2017-03-13 10:54:40] thedukedog : #freshmeat [2017-03-13 10:55:18] thedukedog : going to go up for a bit [2017-03-13 10:55:26] thedukedog : Ill correct it if it goes back down [2017-03-13 10:56:40] Ahhere : eg: bitcoin is 1k you go 100x with your 1 bitcoin. so you have $ 100k long. Bitcoin moves up 100% now your 100k is worth 200k. voila your profit is 100k 100x your dollar amount. but if it moves down to 99k at any point your money gone [2017-03-13 10:57:01] Ahhere : 100x is fastest way to lose all your money [2017-03-13 10:57:07] thedukedog : jesus always .0001 in my avail balance [2017-03-13 10:57:11] thedukedog : 100x is a bitch [2017-03-13 10:57:16] thedukedog : might need to move to 50x [2017-03-13 10:57:19] Ahhere : see^ :) [2017-03-13 10:57:35] Actualiteit : 5× or less bruh [2017-03-13 10:57:35] thedukedog : I have lost almost 900 w this gambling lol [2017-03-13 10:57:43] thedukedog : pennies though compared to others [2017-03-13 10:58:23] thedukedog : keep going up gents [2017-03-13 10:58:28] thedukedog : and ladies if we have any [2017-03-13 10:59:07] Ahhere : good weekends work @thedukedog [2017-03-13 10:59:15] thedukedog : god these bots are dumb [2017-03-13 10:59:22] thedukedog : they respond to any price change I make [2017-03-13 10:59:28] Ahhere : crytpo where you can work all week and end up poor [2017-03-13 10:59:29] thedukedog : want it to go down? [2017-03-13 10:59:42] thedukedog : again? [2017-03-13 10:59:53] thedukedog : lol [2017-03-13 11:00:08] Ahhere : zoom out dude. [2017-03-13 11:00:21] thedukedog : here Ill prove my point again [2017-03-13 11:00:40] Actualiteit : /wall [2017-03-13 11:00:45] trollbot : ``` ±$10 Bid|Ask liq : (38 mins) $1155K (21.85%) | $2283K (36.57%) ``` [2017-03-13 11:01:23] thedukedog : right I created a wall at 1218 last night and another one at 1244, it is ping ponging [2017-03-13 11:01:50] thedukedog : I just need to stay away from 1225 [2017-03-13 11:01:52] thedukedog : liq price [2017-03-13 11:02:00] Ahhere : thedukedog: how big is your "wall" [2017-03-13 11:02:11] Ahhere : would trump be impressed [2017-03-13 11:02:12] thedukedog : 100k [2017-03-13 11:02:32] thedukedog : I was up to like 7 btc before I got leveraged [2017-03-13 11:02:38] thedukedog : liquidated rather [2017-03-13 11:02:46] Ahhere : trump would be ashamed [2017-03-13 11:02:48] thedukedog : but 7 btc at 100x [2017-03-13 11:03:56] BarefootFlash : Dang [2017-03-13 11:04:13] thedukedog : yolo say they say [2017-03-13 11:04:23] thedukedog : lol I've only got 900 in to this so I dont really care [2017-03-13 11:04:29] thedukedog : 900 isnt much in the grand scheme [2017-03-13 11:04:34] Actualiteit : are you sure about that? [2017-03-13 11:04:38] thedukedog : I just keep getting margin called [2017-03-13 11:04:42] thedukedog : super frusterating [2017-03-13 11:04:46] thedukedog : frustrating [2017-03-13 11:05:00] thedukedog : #dyslexics [2017-03-13 11:05:05] Ahhere : what are you going to nogadoo [2017-03-13 11:05:20] thedukedog : lol [2017-03-13 11:05:49] thedukedog : down for a bit [2017-03-13 11:05:53] Ahhere : u like steemit? [2017-03-13 11:06:00] thedukedog : whats that [2017-03-13 11:06:22] Gr33d : kek [2017-03-13 11:06:33] Actualiteit : write stuffs for monies like the hip kids at starbucks with their Macs [2017-03-13 11:06:45] thedukedog : nice [2017-03-13 11:06:50] thedukedog : I am IT consultant [2017-03-13 11:06:57] thedukedog : security and CC and whatnot [2017-03-13 11:07:00] thedukedog : for pos systems [2017-03-13 11:07:08] thedukedog : trying to get them on bitpay [2017-03-13 11:07:08] thedukedog : lol [2017-03-13 11:07:10] Ahhere : are they cryptohipsters? didnt know @Actualiteit [2017-03-13 11:07:18] thedukedog : that sounds like me [2017-03-13 11:07:23] thedukedog : coin advocate [2017-03-13 11:07:34] Actualiteit : Ahhere: nah idk man thats what I think it is judging from what I saw lol [2017-03-13 11:07:35] thedukedog : but you gotta be careful with your excitement [2017-03-13 11:07:39] thedukedog : people think you are crazy [2017-03-13 11:07:46] Ahhere : crypster? do you have a twirly moustache? @thedukedog [2017-03-13 11:08:00] thedukedog : just a full beard nick offerman style [2017-03-13 11:08:20] thedukedog : I need a new job [2017-03-13 11:08:22] thedukedog : lol [2017-03-13 11:08:33] Ahhere : Actualiteit: good work if you can get it . talking shit and drinking coffee [2017-03-13 11:08:34] thedukedog : being someones Sysadmin janitor is no way to live life [2017-03-13 11:08:40] thedukedog : they treat IT like retards [2017-03-13 11:08:42] Actualiteit : true that [2017-03-13 11:08:54] Ahhere : kind of like what im doing right now @Actualiteit [2017-03-13 11:08:57] thedukedog : I want to create again [2017-03-13 11:09:10] thedukedog : used to have a real successful vape biz before every mom and pop showed up [2017-03-13 11:09:17] Ahhere : thedukedog: hard to respect the BAs and what nots [2017-03-13 11:09:18] Actualiteit : Ahhere: same, although its not always guaranteed to make me money [2017-03-13 11:10:13] Ahhere : Actualiteit: hold enough of the right cryptos its practically guaranteed imo [2017-03-13 11:11:03] thedukedog : I want to start an IT union [2017-03-13 11:11:10] thedukedog : But thats a touchy subjext [2017-03-13 11:11:35] thedukedog : Might just open a nursery..plants are so much nicer than hoomans [2017-03-13 11:11:55] Ahhere : plants can be very racist though [2017-03-13 11:12:03] thedukedog : Lol. They grab all the puss [2017-03-13 11:12:22] thedukedog : did anyone just get discod from bitmex [2017-03-13 11:12:28] thedukedog : I think its my VPN taking a shit [2017-03-13 11:12:31] Actualiteit : nop [2017-03-13 11:12:48] Ahhere : so do you use your work servers to mine crypto yet? @thedukedog [2017-03-13 11:12:51] KyllingLolsson : /sentiment [2017-03-13 11:12:54] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 31.76 / 68.24 Daily : 43.84 / 56.16 Weekly : 50.76 / 49.24 Monthly : 50.32 / 49.68``` [2017-03-13 11:12:57] thedukedog : nah no funds to do that [2017-03-13 11:12:58] Ahhere : like its 2011 [2017-03-13 11:13:10] thedukedog : plus I think you gotta be in china and get that goverment subsidised elec [2017-03-13 11:13:14] thedukedog : to make it worthwile [2017-03-13 11:13:19] thedukedog : excuse typos pls [2017-03-13 11:13:32] KyllingLolsson : typosi spunishable by death! [2017-03-13 11:13:32] thedukedog : maybe oregon or washington by a water plant [2017-03-13 11:13:42] KyllingLolsson : damn [2017-03-13 11:13:53] thedukedog : I think thats where the big ones left in the USA are but I think most usa dudes just go to China [2017-03-13 11:13:57] Ahhere : KyllingLolsson: lol [2017-03-13 11:14:08] thedukedog : not sure how to compete with those 2 giant ones [2017-03-13 11:14:10] thedukedog : forget their names [2017-03-13 11:14:52] thedukedog : My work servers are pitiful [2017-03-13 11:15:01] thedukedog : They dont even trust it with a expense card [2017-03-13 11:15:27] thedukedog : Cant even handle Wi-Fi for 60 employees lol [2017-03-13 11:15:28] thedukedog : Lol [2017-03-13 11:15:47] thedukedog : But I am not lead network guy that's not my problem [2017-03-13 11:15:58] thedukedog : They dont pay me enough for that [2017-03-13 11:16:11] Ahhere : wow so not working in google then lol [2017-03-13 11:16:27] thedukedog : Not yet lol [2017-03-13 11:16:38] thedukedog : I wonder if its like hooli [2017-03-13 11:16:52] thedukedog : Id rather work for besos [2017-03-13 11:16:55] thedukedog : WA