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[2017-03-13 07:43:03] aron : yes but if i sell it i make a loss
[2017-03-13 07:43:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 11500 @ 1223.01
[2017-03-13 07:43:11] SilverKnight : aron: yes
[2017-03-13 07:43:21] aron : this GUI is bad then
[2017-03-13 07:43:22] SilverKnight : aron: whats the question?
[2017-03-13 07:43:23] MikeHunt : mondumpday?
[2017-03-13 07:43:38] aron : SilverKnight the question is that isnt this stupid then
[2017-03-13 07:43:46] aron : like Bitmex shouldnt do this
[2017-03-13 07:43:55] SilverKnight : aron: no... you just need to do the math yourself
[2017-03-13 07:44:01] MikeHunt : aron: RoE is generally inaccurate
[2017-03-13 07:44:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 116 @ 1221.23
[2017-03-13 07:44:05] aron : MikeHunt do you buy bitcoins on paxful?
[2017-03-13 07:44:09] MikeHunt : aron: no
[2017-03-13 07:44:21] aron : ok
[2017-03-13 07:44:51] aron : can someone tell me how i can buy bitcoin? currently im paying 20% comission
[2017-03-13 07:45:14] aron : best comission im paying is 10%
[2017-03-13 07:45:29] aron : and paying another 5% comission to sell my bitcoins
[2017-03-13 07:45:29] SilverKnight : aron: this is derivative trading on crypto currencies... its gonna have its limitations.
[2017-03-13 07:45:45] SilverKnight : aron: you just have to find a way to make it work for you
[2017-03-13 07:45:50] aron : ok
[2017-03-13 07:46:57] BitMEX_John : aron: liquidations are also based on mark price
[2017-03-13 07:47:12] SilverKnight : aron: if you do have an idea of how to improve the trading conditions, then im sure the guys at BitMEX would be happy to hear your suggestions
[2017-03-13 07:47:17] SilverKnight : :P
[2017-03-13 07:47:22] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECH17`: buy 37 @ 0.039141
[2017-03-13 07:49:10] MikeHunt : aron: tried buying on coinbase/stamp?
[2017-03-13 07:49:14] -_- : Zec finally going to double in price
[2017-03-13 07:49:25] aron : entry price is 1218, market price 1221, shouldnt i be making profit?
[2017-03-13 07:49:37] aron : unrealised PNL shows negative .00001
[2017-03-13 07:49:39] SilverKnight : technically you are
[2017-03-13 07:49:46] MikeHunt : aron: minus fees = loss
[2017-03-13 07:49:50] SilverKnight : unrealized profit at present
[2017-03-13 07:50:00] MikeHunt : aron: generally the spread for profit is about $4
[2017-03-13 07:50:01] SilverKnight : based on the current bid
[2017-03-13 07:50:11] -_- : Too hard to get in zec here
[2017-03-13 07:50:23] aron : MikeHunt so I cant make money by betting 1 usd right
[2017-03-13 07:50:30] aron : MikeHunt okay ill try stamp
[2017-03-13 07:50:54] MikeHunt : aron: no, btc must go up by $4 before you make money
[2017-03-13 07:51:00] MikeHunt : aron: or down $4 if short
[2017-03-13 07:51:06] aron : okay
[2017-03-13 07:51:07] SilverKnight : Mike, I've made money on less of a move
[2017-03-13 07:51:23] SilverKnight : fees dont take up $4 of movement in my experience
[2017-03-13 07:51:25] MikeHunt : SilverKnight: dont have time for exact figure ;)
[2017-03-13 07:51:28] aron : MikeHunt, this is because im buying very low contracts right
[2017-03-13 07:51:59] aron : okay it moved up 4 usd
[2017-03-13 07:52:05] aron : im still at loss
[2017-03-13 07:52:09] SilverKnight : https://www.bitmex.com/app/fees
[2017-03-13 07:52:18] SilverKnight : can you just do the math in your head?
[2017-03-13 07:52:23] SilverKnight : look at the current bid
[2017-03-13 07:52:33] MikeHunt : aron: RoE is usually incorrect
[2017-03-13 07:52:39] MikeHunt : aron: do calculations urself
[2017-03-13 07:53:12] 1345 : ㅈㄹ
[2017-03-13 07:53:17] aron : i sold it at market price i made no profit no loss :(
[2017-03-13 07:53:31] SilverKnight : market orders have a higher fee
[2017-03-13 07:53:39] SilverKnight : there is a taker and maker fee
[2017-03-13 07:53:47] SilverKnight : read the link
[2017-03-13 07:53:48] aron : MikeHunt how much do you usually buy
[2017-03-13 07:53:48] BitMEX_John : aron: you can use the calculator tool in the top left hand corner to model profit/loss
[2017-03-13 07:53:49] SilverKnight : I posted above
[2017-03-13 07:53:53] MikeHunt : aron: if you sell around +/- $4 you will break even
[2017-03-13 07:54:39] aron : mikehunt how much do u usually spend
[2017-03-13 07:55:21] MikeHunt : aron: iirc the golden trading rule is dont risk more than 10% on any one trade, but it really depends how much capital you have
[2017-03-13 07:55:26] MikeHunt : as you may wish to do less
[2017-03-13 07:55:48] aron : mikehunt but because of fees i shouldnt trade 1 usd
[2017-03-13 07:55:53] aron : maybe i should trade 10 usd?
[2017-03-13 07:56:32] MikeHunt : aron: in order to make a profitable market trade you need a spread of at least $4
[2017-03-13 07:56:46] MikeHunt : if you want to make actual money then you'll need to invest more
[2017-03-13 07:57:02] MikeHunt : but since ur new i recommend just keeping to $1 or $10 etc.
[2017-03-13 07:57:12] aron : lets say market price is 1224 and it becomes 1228 but ill still make loss
[2017-03-13 07:57:21] MikeHunt : you'd break even
[2017-03-13 07:57:32] aron : but you said id be profitable
[2017-03-13 07:58:02] MikeHunt : aron: it may be slightly profitable but not much, basically break even
[2017-03-13 07:58:20] aron : even if i buy 100 contracts?
[2017-03-13 07:58:37] MikeHunt : aron: use easybitcoincalculator.com
[2017-03-13 07:58:43] MikeHunt : put 0.15 as fee
[2017-03-13 07:59:11] MikeHunt : ive gtg now but that should allow you to calculate trades and get rough idea
[2017-03-13 08:00:01] aron : mikehunt whats wrong with bitmex calc
[2017-03-13 08:01:48] MikeHunt : aron: doesnt include fees
[2017-03-13 08:02:00] aron : ohhh ok
[2017-03-13 08:02:58] KyllingLolsson : /sentiment
[2017-03-13 08:03:01] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 50.34 / 49.66 Daily : 45.32 / 54.68 Weekly : 50.89 / 49.11 Monthly : 50.39 / 49.62```
[2017-03-13 08:05:51] AudibleScience : aron: as a rule of thumb at this price level, if you catch a $1.84 price delta, you cover the taker fee on both entry and exit.
[2017-03-13 08:07:29] aron : Audible price that means that if price goes up by 3 usd i should make profit
[2017-03-13 08:08:01] AudibleScience : correct
[2017-03-13 08:09:01] SilverKnight : aron: thats with taker fees only, not maker
[2017-03-13 08:09:13] SilverKnight : so dont use market orders
[2017-03-13 08:09:21] SilverKnight : limit only
[2017-03-13 08:09:45] aron : i bought at 1221 and have set limit at 1229
[2017-03-13 08:10:09] SilverKnight : did you buy with limit or market?
[2017-03-13 08:10:11] aron : wont i still make profit if instead of setting limit at 1229 i sold when price became 1229?
[2017-03-13 08:10:20] aron : silverknight i bought with market
[2017-03-13 08:10:44] SilverKnight : aron: ok well then you pay a higher fee from the get go for market orders, entry or exit
[2017-03-13 08:11:00] SilverKnight : $8 in profit will still cover that, but your profits will be clearly less
[2017-03-13 08:11:06] aron : Ohh ok thanks
[2017-03-13 08:11:31] SilverKnight : no prob
[2017-03-13 08:11:59] aron : Silverknight the market price right now is 1223.7 if i buy using limit at 1224 am i not paying a .3 fees for nothing
[2017-03-13 08:12:09] aron : if i buy a whole btc
[2017-03-13 08:12:28] aron : and then the normal fees is added
[2017-03-13 08:13:49] AudibleScience : aron: If you pay the taker fee to enter the market and you market make your way out of your position your maker rebase can be subtracted from the fee you paid to enter so you only need to catch a $0.62 price delta to be in profit.
[2017-03-13 08:14:09] aron : oh i see
[2017-03-13 08:14:15] SilverKnight : if you look at the "realized PNL" heading of your position stats, that shows how much you have paid so far
[2017-03-13 08:14:19] SilverKnight : for the position
[2017-03-13 08:14:54] SilverKnight : then go to the calculator and put in the price for entry and exit, then subtract the realized profit amount from what the calculator says you would make and thats what it will be
[2017-03-13 08:20:14] Kobe : Is now a good time to buy Ethereum for long hodling purposes?
[2017-03-13 08:21:35] SilverKnight : Kobe: ummm....
[2017-03-13 08:21:46] BitMEX_John : Kobe: please note our ethereum contract settles in 4 days
[2017-03-13 08:22:00] BitMEX_John : Kobe: but you can re-open the position after that if you like
[2017-03-13 08:22:47] Kobe : SilverKnight: thanks
[2017-03-13 08:22:57] Kobe : BitMEX_John: gotcha
[2017-03-13 08:28:21] KyllingLolsson : /sentiment
[2017-03-13 08:28:24] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 51.92 / 48.08 Daily : 45.68 / 54.32 Weekly : 50.92 / 49.08 Monthly : 50.39 / 49.61```
[2017-03-13 08:30:48] Ahhere : >1250 soon
[2017-03-13 08:30:55] Ahhere : >
[2017-03-13 08:38:26] Ahhere : u fkers asleep or what?
[2017-03-13 08:38:44] QuinnTrades : never
[2017-03-13 08:38:55] Ahhere : oioi thats the spirit
[2017-03-13 08:39:17] QuinnTrades : just trading alts atm for the most part
[2017-03-13 08:39:20] QuinnTrades : and cant do it on here
[2017-03-13 08:39:45] Actualiteit : Ahhere: Sleep is for the weak
[2017-03-13 08:40:10] Ahhere : yeah I want to long eth but I believe btc will make a run for 1300 soon and everyone will come runing back to btcusd
[2017-03-13 08:40:58] Actualiteit : Ahhere: I am waiting for an ETH dip since 18$ lol
[2017-03-13 08:41:06] Ahhere : QuinnTrades: where do you alt trade?
[2017-03-13 08:41:11] Ahhere : polo?
[2017-03-13 08:41:12] Actualiteit : so yeah Ill just hodl the ones I already have
[2017-03-13 08:41:18] QuinnTrades : prolo
[2017-03-13 08:41:21] QuinnTrades : polo
[2017-03-13 08:41:22] QuinnTrades : *
[2017-03-13 08:41:40] QuinnTrades : low leverage but with 10-15% swings its fine
[2017-03-13 08:41:45] Ahhere : Actualiteit: same made more from rotating into eth recently than I did from 3 months trading btc
[2017-03-13 08:42:19] Ahhere : QuinnTrades: yeah but i find it hard to do longer term trades. alts do nothing for 2 years then explode
[2017-03-13 08:42:42] QuinnTrades : Ahhere: Hoping eth comes up this year, feel like it might
[2017-03-13 08:43:13] QuinnTrades : mostly cos the infighting over btc is so fucking annoying
[2017-03-13 08:43:32] Ahhere : i would not be shockd at 100$ - the infighting is not so bad
[2017-03-13 08:43:47] Actualiteit : Id like eth to go big this time, don't like the hardforks though, kinda defeats the whole decentralized thing
[2017-03-13 08:43:47] Ahhere : its like two parents arguing who loves the kid more
[2017-03-13 08:43:49] Actualiteit : did provide nice dips tho
[2017-03-13 08:43:51] Ahhere : kid will be fine
[2017-03-13 08:44:22] QuinnTrades : Oh yeah I think it'll be fine, but it doesnt take much to rocket the alt prices
[2017-03-13 08:44:32] QuinnTrades : I mean those will go up, rather than btc going down
[2017-03-13 08:45:03] Ahhere : is it insane to trade eth here? dont trust polo and withdrawal restrictions are gay there if your alts rocket
[2017-03-13 08:45:34] QuinnTrades : idk, last night I lost 0.3 btc on a long of dash
[2017-03-13 08:45:39] QuinnTrades : dash went up everywhere else
[2017-03-13 08:45:42] QuinnTrades : and went down on here
[2017-03-13 08:45:45] Ahhere : ffs
[2017-03-13 08:45:52] QuinnTrades : got so fucked
[2017-03-13 08:45:58] QuinnTrades : so i'm just leaving them lol
[2017-03-13 08:47:18] Ahhere : 10or 20 x in the right direction could make so much money tho lol. v tempting
[2017-03-13 08:47:42] QuinnTrades : if you go for it, let me know if it works out
[2017-03-13 08:47:52] QuinnTrades : I'd love to be able to :p
[2017-03-13 08:49:39] Ahhere : maybe I should short dash again
[2017-03-13 08:53:30] vonklo : 1230 broken
[2017-03-13 08:53:48] QuinnTrades : did you just short dash @Ahhere
[2017-03-13 08:54:03] QuinnTrades : it just jumped up lol
[2017-03-13 08:54:40] Ahhere : just sold 50 contracts, I'll try and get another 150 around 0.065 and bet on 0.05 before 0.07
[2017-03-13 08:55:10] QuinnTrades : gl
[2017-03-13 08:55:29] Ahhere : just a bit of revenge trading sold all my dash at 5 dollars lol
[2017-03-13 08:55:37] Actualiteit : get them profits mayne, I'm keeping my hand s off of it
[2017-03-13 08:55:37] Actualiteit : ouch
[2017-03-13 08:55:42] QuinnTrades : haha
[2017-03-13 08:55:52] Actualiteit : well who wouldve knopwn it would take off to these levels
[2017-03-13 08:56:20] Actualiteit : I mean I was thinking "yeah this pump is over" at 25$
[2017-03-13 08:56:33] Ahhere : crazy I thought it was a rip off at 15$
[2017-03-13 09:05:41] Ahhere : good r/r short dash here (famous last words lol)
[2017-03-13 09:08:47] ross : I think you'll see dash ath again before it drops
[2017-03-13 09:10:04] aron : quinntrades were u making a joke or is Dash really quite manupilatable
[2017-03-13 09:10:42] djkaltenudel : /rekt
[2017-03-13 09:10:42] trollbot : ``` 3 recent REKTs > 100K: ``` ``` 36 hours, 56 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 233932 @ 1166.68 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire: ``` ``` 48 hours, 13 mins ago: Liquidated short on `XBTH17`: buy 235337 @ 1196.58 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire: ``` ``` 58 hours, 58 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBCH17`: sell 235620 @ 7605.8 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire: ```
[2017-03-13 09:11:11] QuinnTrades : aron: No I literally was forced to close an order at -500 ROE because it was going down on here while it went up everywhere else
[2017-03-13 09:11:38] aron : but i thought the mark price stopped this form happening
[2017-03-13 09:11:51] aron : it should give u the fair price and not last price for liquidation
[2017-03-13 09:12:29] QuinnTrades : mark price is an indicator, it's pretty irrelivant on the exchange you trade on
[2017-03-13 09:12:44] aron : quinntrades shouldnt we buy dash right now then
[2017-03-13 09:12:52] aron : if its going up everywhere else
[2017-03-13 09:13:27] QuinnTrades : you'd think
[2017-03-13 09:13:34] QuinnTrades : Tried that
[2017-03-13 09:13:40] QuinnTrades : and it kept going up everywhere else
[2017-03-13 09:13:47] QuinnTrades : and went down on here and fked me
[2017-03-13 09:13:56] Ahhere : its lower here because much more people are selling
[2017-03-13 09:14:02] aron : if u put min leverage then u dont have to liquidate
[2017-03-13 09:14:16] aron : i mean u have to put at a really low price
[2017-03-13 09:14:22] Ahhere : whereas on polo there are some actual buyers of 'physical' dash
[2017-03-13 09:14:27] aron : but not put*
[2017-03-13 09:14:48] aron : cant i buy here and sell on polo?
[2017-03-13 09:15:37] QuinnTrades : You're not getting dash here
[2017-03-13 09:15:48] QuinnTrades : you're buying and selling contracts
[2017-03-13 09:15:51] QuinnTrades : everything is btc
[2017-03-13 09:15:59] Ahhere : dirty derivatives
[2017-03-13 09:16:12] aron : i see
[2017-03-13 09:16:58] aron : quinntrades whats ur positon on xbt?
[2017-03-13 09:17:16] aron : i think xbt is easier to profit from instead of dash
[2017-03-13 09:18:08] QuinnTrades : aron: small long
[2017-03-13 09:18:41] aron : small means low number of contracts or a short duration of time?
[2017-03-13 09:18:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `DASH7D`: buy 8 @ 0.061334
[2017-03-13 09:19:42] QuinnTrades : low number of contracts
[2017-03-13 09:20:36] aron : /guide
[2017-03-13 09:20:36] trollbot : ``` Dear newcomer Please watch this video to get started with BitMex: ``` https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSh2bM3UP04 ``` Also make sure to read the docs: ``` https://www.bitmex.com/app/tradingOverview ``` Remember to trade small with low leverage until you understand how things work, otherwise you will get liquidated (REKT) pretty soon :boom: ```
[2017-03-13 09:21:07] aron : /joke
[2017-03-13 09:21:08] trollbot : ``` Do you know what DNA is an acronym for? The National Dyslexia Association ```
[2017-03-13 09:21:17] aron : lol
[2017-03-13 09:21:29] Yazz : ha... didn't know that command
[2017-03-13 09:22:19] Ahhere : /amihomosexual
[2017-03-13 09:22:26] aron : yes
[2017-03-13 09:22:33] Ahhere : nice thx
[2017-03-13 09:22:44] aron : anytime
[2017-03-13 09:22:44] Yazz : which exchanges do you guys reference for price leading?
[2017-03-13 09:22:51] aron : XBT
[2017-03-13 09:23:04] QuinnTrades : /price
[2017-03-13 09:23:07] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1231.00 (0.68%) Bitfinex : 1225.90 (0.88%) The Woodchipper : 1234.93 (0.34%) itBit : 1229.83 (0.65%) Kraken : 1221.00 (1.41%) GDAX : 1228.87 (0.56%) SLQ : 1 hour, 47 mins```
[2017-03-13 09:23:14] Yazz : No I mean which BTC echange
[2017-03-13 09:23:20] InvalidUser : Sweet TY Bitmex,, just read my email.
[2017-03-13 09:23:33] aron : what happened IU
[2017-03-13 09:23:58] Ahhere : dash about to make a move which way tho...
[2017-03-13 09:24:22] aron : up
[2017-03-13 09:24:49] Ahhere : bitcoin also getting close to trendline, I'm hoping bitcoin decides for dash
[2017-03-13 09:25:47] KyllingLolsson : Ahhere: how ya doin
[2017-03-13 09:26:18] zaico : if the fund interval has changed to 2 hours why it shows a 8 hour period on "Funding History" and "Contract Specification"
[2017-03-13 09:26:18] Ahhere : KyllingLolsson: all good missus gone to gym baby gone asleep, preworkout taken ready to rock
[2017-03-13 09:26:20] zaico : ¿
[2017-03-13 09:26:21] aron : quinntrades I shorted xbt using Limit and then I wanted to buy it using Limit but it closed my position on short
[2017-03-13 09:26:24] Ahhere : u? @KyllingLolsson
[2017-03-13 09:26:33] aron : is there a way i can simaltaneously do both
[2017-03-13 09:26:50] aron : i want 1 contract for buy and 1 for sell
[2017-03-13 09:26:58] QuinnTrades : You can't long and sell at the same time
[2017-03-13 09:27:05] djkaltenudel : not here
[2017-03-13 09:27:06] KyllingLolsson : Ahhere: niceee, golden moments. Im at work right now, desk job :)
[2017-03-13 09:27:08] QuinnTrades : you're betting for it to go up and down at the same time
[2017-03-13 09:27:09] djkaltenudel : on okcoin you can do it
[2017-03-13 09:27:20] KyllingLolsson : QuinnTrades: yes u can!
[2017-03-13 09:27:38] QuinnTrades : not here, your orders merge
[2017-03-13 09:27:41] KyllingLolsson : on 2 different accounts :D
[2017-03-13 09:27:45] QuinnTrades : lol
[2017-03-13 09:27:46] QuinnTrades : sure
[2017-03-13 09:27:49] Ahhere : KyllingLolsson: "working" ;)
[2017-03-13 09:27:54] KyllingLolsson : :d
[2017-03-13 09:27:55] KyllingLolsson : :D
[2017-03-13 09:28:12] KyllingLolsson : i just watch the prie and wait
[2017-03-13 09:28:17] aron : quinntrades why dont they let us do this
[2017-03-13 09:29:16] Ahhere : ok fuck switched sides dash going up looks like
[2017-03-13 09:29:46] aron : if I had 2 laptops I would make soo much money buy shorting and longing simaltaneously
[2017-03-13 09:29:54] Ahhere : aron: lol wat
[2017-03-13 09:30:15] aron : Ahhere xbt is 1233.21 right now
[2017-03-13 09:30:22] aron : if i buy and sell at same time
[2017-03-13 09:30:34] aron : 1 contract each (sorry i meant long short)
[2017-03-13 09:30:58] aron : and when price goes up i sell my buy contract (position close)
[2017-03-13 09:31:15] aron : and when price goes down i buy my short contract (position close)
[2017-03-13 09:31:15] zaico : People, how do you hedge while taking profit from negative long funding? Whith shorts it easy: buy btc with fiat and short btc. But whit longs?
[2017-03-13 09:31:34] Ahhere : aron: http://www.investopedia.com/terms/w/whipsaw.asp likely to get whipsawed in crypto
[2017-03-13 09:31:36] aron : buy long and wait
[2017-03-13 09:32:05] zaico : aron: there is no hedge there. If it goes bullish you lose money
[2017-03-13 09:32:11] zaico : sorry
[2017-03-13 09:32:13] zaico : bearish
[2017-03-13 09:32:18] BarefootFlash : Long term position and short term position
[2017-03-13 09:32:33] aron : zaico it has been bullish trending
[2017-03-13 09:32:34] BarefootFlash : That's what I like to do, too
[2017-03-13 09:33:18] Ahhere : straddle trade I think its called
[2017-03-13 09:33:19] zaico : BarefootFlash: are you talking about taking profit with fundings?
[2017-03-13 09:33:34] BarefootFlash : Sorry, no. Previous convo
[2017-03-13 09:33:49] aron : XBT was 1221 at 8:07 am now its like 1233, profitable to short?
[2017-03-13 09:34:42] aron : quinntrades what do u think
[2017-03-13 09:36:36] Ahhere : aron: nobody knows the future dude looks bullish to me especially given the lack of fuks given to fridays news and new investor money arriving on exchanges in the next few days
[2017-03-13 09:37:03] aron : ahhere but it went down on friday
[2017-03-13 09:37:53] Ahhere : yes but people called for $800 coins if etf rejected
[2017-03-13 09:38:06] Ahhere : and here we are creeping to ath
[2017-03-13 09:38:09] aron : what does that mean
[2017-03-13 09:38:14] aron : called for
[2017-03-13 09:38:22] Ahhere : lol ur a good troll
[2017-03-13 09:38:32] aron : called for means bought right
[2017-03-13 09:38:46] Ahhere : predicted
[2017-03-13 09:39:01] aron : Ahhere what if i predicted it to go down
[2017-03-13 09:39:10] aron : and sold 100 usd worth coins
[2017-03-13 09:39:18] Ahhere : u nearly had me again damn great trolling
[2017-03-13 09:39:20] aron : but kept 100 usd worth bitcoins
[2017-03-13 09:39:28] djkaltenudel : lol
[2017-03-13 09:39:33] rapidtrades : HOW HIGH CAN THIS SHIT GO MAN?
[2017-03-13 09:39:33] aron : in case it went up
[2017-03-13 09:40:02] BarefootFlash : rapidtrades: WHO KNOWS!?
[2017-03-13 09:40:19] BarefootFlash : $1500???
[2017-03-13 09:40:27] rapidtrades : $1,000,000 maybe?
[2017-03-13 09:40:29] Ahhere : aron: thats called hedgehogging http://www.investopedia.com/terms/h/hedge.asp
[2017-03-13 09:40:41] BarefootFlash : Yeah! Maybe
[2017-03-13 09:41:01] BarefootFlash : Maybe even $2,000,000
[2017-03-13 09:41:08] Ahhere : lol this piece of shit dash is going up
[2017-03-13 09:44:00] Actualiteit : Dash is a gamble atm
[2017-03-13 09:44:43] MichaelKade : Are we expecting any drops or is this pace gonna keep up?
[2017-03-13 09:45:01] Actualiteit : Are there any fundamentals behind its rise btw?
[2017-03-13 09:45:40] ross : Actualiteit: pump coin
[2017-03-13 09:45:57] Actualiteit : ross: pretty sick pump then, thnx m8
[2017-03-13 09:46:14] Ahhere : Actualiteit: the theory is its the perfect crypto - fast transactions, privacy and fungibility, proof of stake and interest payouts for those holders with masternodes. and a team that is dynamic unlike sluggish bitcoin
[2017-03-13 09:46:16] heheh lo : Actualiteit: we all know dash is a scam from the start
[2017-03-13 09:46:26] Ahhere : the reality is it is a premine scam^^^
[2017-03-13 09:46:44] heheh lo : xcoin darkcoin then bom dash is born
[2017-03-13 09:47:08] heheh lo : literally they treating all the buyers like 3 year old
[2017-03-13 09:47:21] Ahhere : if they burned the 1.5 million (out of 7 million only!) premine then I'd take them seriously
[2017-03-13 09:47:22] Actualiteit : lmao well thats great
[2017-03-13 09:48:18] heheh lo : they are probably mass staking their own, sitting on a huge profit which completed by ignorant buyers
[2017-03-13 09:48:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `DASH7D`: buy 19 @ 0.061462
[2017-03-13 09:48:33] heheh lo : "wowzor free pump again today"
[2017-03-13 09:48:49] heheh lo : fucking dash
[2017-03-13 09:48:53] Ahhere : heheh lo: but do they dump or stay greedy.. I'm sure they start to like the smell of their own bullshit by now
[2017-03-13 09:49:16] heheh lo : Ahhere: probably dumped like 50% of what they have own from the start
[2017-03-13 09:49:33] ross : People talk of 0.07 or 0.1 personally I'm getting out at 0.067
[2017-03-13 09:50:35] heheh lo : even shitcoin like ltc doesnt smell like dash
[2017-03-13 09:51:25] Ahhere : ross: its possible one or more alts will repeat LTC crazy antics of 2013 and btc hasnt even peaked yet IMO
[2017-03-13 09:51:38] Ahhere : could be DASH
[2017-03-13 09:56:21] KyllingLolsson : /sentiment
[2017-03-13 09:56:23] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 26.19 / 73.81 Daily : 44.60 / 55.40 Weekly : 50.80 / 49.20 Monthly : 50.36 / 49.65```
[2017-03-13 09:58:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 3426 @ 1229.00
[2017-03-13 09:59:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 140 @ 1227.84
[2017-03-13 09:59:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 60 @ 1228.19
[2017-03-13 09:59:12] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 50 @ 1227.15
[2017-03-13 09:59:57] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 6000 @ 1226.70
[2017-03-13 09:59:57] REKT : Next stop - goblin town!
[2017-03-13 09:59:59] Ahhere : yowza
[2017-03-13 10:00:10] Actualiteit : yuuuuuge rekts
[2017-03-13 10:00:11] Actualiteit : ...
[2017-03-13 10:00:45] Ahhere : Actualiteit: yep big fish suffering amirite
[2017-03-13 10:01:07] Actualiteit : das rite mayne
[2017-03-13 10:02:12] Ahhere : got filled in one of my bigger orders :)
[2017-03-13 10:03:03] wurstgelee : thank gawd for the upcoming index change
[2017-03-13 10:03:09] wurstgelee : was about time
[2017-03-13 10:03:52] Ahhere : oh didnt hear? @wurstgelee
[2017-03-13 10:04:00] Ahhere : okc gone?
[2017-03-13 10:04:00] wurstgelee : read your emails
[2017-03-13 10:04:01] wurstgelee : ;)
[2017-03-13 10:04:01] thedukedog : How we Do I g
[2017-03-13 10:04:06] thedukedog : Doing
[2017-03-13 10:06:44] Ahhere : wurstgelee: thats good news less manipulation
[2017-03-13 10:09:38] Ahhere : thedukedog: gud u?
[2017-03-13 10:10:01] thedukedog : Gooood
[2017-03-13 10:10:15] Ahhere : lol #winning?
[2017-03-13 10:12:08] thedukedog : Yeah when I dont get liquidated lol
[2017-03-13 10:12:32] Ahhere : fuking opposite traders!
[2017-03-13 10:13:10] Billybtc : When is the btc hardfork take place?
[2017-03-13 10:13:51] Tetsuo : tomorrow 4:20 pm
[2017-03-13 10:13:52] Ahhere : oh man sooner the better all in btc the night before that shit for me
[2017-03-13 10:14:47] thedukedog : How serious is this hard fork news
[2017-03-13 10:14:55] thedukedog : I thought it was rumors
[2017-03-13 10:15:20] Ahhere : approimately as serious as cancer I believe @thedukedog
[2017-03-13 10:15:20] Billybtc : Saw it all over Reddit. Idk
[2017-03-13 10:15:22] thedukedog : Sorry ill research on my own
[2017-03-13 10:15:46] thedukedog : Rsddits filled w manipulation
[2017-03-13 10:16:00] thedukedog : Esp bitcoinand bitcoinmarkets
[2017-03-13 10:16:04] thedukedog : Just be wary
[2017-03-13 10:16:50] thedukedog : Look at the_donald during the election
[2017-03-13 10:17:07] InvalidUser : Big pump on BS
[2017-03-13 10:17:08] thedukedog : Thousands of Russian trolls paid
[2017-03-13 10:17:53] thedukedog : I'm going long
[2017-03-13 10:17:55] thedukedog : Long
[2017-03-13 10:19:33] Ahhere : /price
[2017-03-13 10:19:34] thedukedog : Go long peeps
[2017-03-13 10:19:37] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1228.19 (-0.23%) Bitfinex : 1224.50 (-0.11%) The Woodchipper : 1230.61 (-0.35%) itBit : 1226.30 (-0.29%) Kraken : 1210.00 (-0.90%) GDAX : 1233.11 (0.35%) SLQ : 56 mins```
[2017-03-13 10:19:45] InvalidUser : Long it is
[2017-03-13 10:20:00] thedukedog : I predict 124 then it'll drop a bit
[2017-03-13 10:20:10] thedukedog : 1144
[2017-03-13 10:20:29] thedukedog : Sorry 124r
[2017-03-13 10:20:35] thedukedog : 1244
[2017-03-13 10:21:06] KyllingLolsson : what :D
[2017-03-13 10:21:12] KyllingLolsson : 124355?
[2017-03-13 10:21:53] Ahhere : yes today
[2017-03-13 10:22:00] Ahhere : very specific target
[2017-03-13 10:22:36] Actualiteit : /wall
[2017-03-13 10:22:40] trollbot : ``` ±$10 Bid|Ask liq : (2 hours, 54 mins) $845K (113.85%) | $1873K (-3.05%) ```
[2017-03-13 10:23:49] Ahhere : strong hands these days
[2017-03-13 10:27:31] Gr33d : /sentiment
[2017-03-13 10:27:34] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 29.36 / 70.64 Daily : 44.41 / 55.59 Weekly : 50.80 / 49.20 Monthly : 50.34 / 49.66```
[2017-03-13 10:28:56] InvalidUser : Monthly contracts are fighting to buy in
[2017-03-13 10:30:24] thedukedog : Gotta fight liquidation one sec
[2017-03-13 10:30:43] rapidtrades : so many dumb money here, it scary to think how low prices will go once we crash
[2017-03-13 10:30:45] Ahhere : thedukedog: struggle is real
[2017-03-13 10:30:59] Ahhere : rapidtrades: smart money short from 800
[2017-03-13 10:31:11] thedukedog : Yeah at 100x too Yolo
[2017-03-13 10:31:22] laisee : U say that like its a bad thing @rapido
[2017-03-13 10:31:43] thedukedog : Buying 1000 short to get my funds back
[2017-03-13 10:32:09] laisee : sounds like a plan
[2017-03-13 10:32:29] thedukedog : Going to go down for a sec
[2017-03-13 10:33:02] thedukedog : Okay we should be good
[2017-03-13 10:33:51] laisee : what a curse that would be. To know the future for next 10 secs only at random times
[2017-03-13 10:34:26] thedukedog : No I meant the price
[2017-03-13 10:34:30] thedukedog : See
[2017-03-13 10:34:37] thedukedog : Back up
[2017-03-13 10:34:52] thedukedog : The boys are listening lol
[2017-03-13 10:34:57] thedukedog : Bots6
[2017-03-13 10:35:01] thedukedog : Bots
[2017-03-13 10:35:16] thedukedog : Phonekeyboards...
[2017-03-13 10:35:22] thedukedog : Need my mechanical
[2017-03-13 10:35:48] thedukedog : Spoon - the underdog is a good song for today
[2017-03-13 10:36:27] aron : if i buy 1225 quantity at entry price 1225 and exit price is 2450 then I get profit of 0.5
[2017-03-13 10:36:36] aron : shouldnt profit be more?
[2017-03-13 10:37:02] thedukedog : Nope
[2017-03-13 10:37:02] micmix : aron: no, the math works this way
[2017-03-13 10:37:18] thedukedog : If you borrow 100 you dont get 100 percent of the profits
[2017-03-13 10:37:28] aron : im not borrowing
[2017-03-13 10:37:31] thedukedog : Oh
[2017-03-13 10:37:32] thedukedog : Sorry
[2017-03-13 10:37:34] aron : im putting my money
[2017-03-13 10:37:39] thedukedog : Your not on margin?
[2017-03-13 10:37:50] micmix : aron: you double your USD
[2017-03-13 10:37:50] aron : it does show margin as 0.5
[2017-03-13 10:37:59] thedukedog : Lol I'm at 100x
[2017-03-13 10:38:00] micmix : not your bitcoin
[2017-03-13 10:38:13] thedukedog : To the moon
[2017-03-13 10:38:30] aron : micmix okay then shouldnt profit be lower than 0.5?
[2017-03-13 10:38:34] thedukedog : Gotta get it up to 1244 brb
[2017-03-13 10:38:36] mdsmm : Gooooood days
[2017-03-13 10:38:37] aron : because of fees
[2017-03-13 10:38:58] aron : or is it 0.5 because of fees?
[2017-03-13 10:39:13] BarefootFlash : aron: have you opened a position yet?
[2017-03-13 10:39:18] aron : no
[2017-03-13 10:39:22] BarefootFlash : Ok, good
[2017-03-13 10:39:22] aron : im using calculator
[2017-03-13 10:39:30] BarefootFlash : What is it that you want to do?
[2017-03-13 10:39:31] micmix : aron: it will be lower, calculator doesn't take fees into account
[2017-03-13 10:39:59] aron : Barefootflash I want to long btc
[2017-03-13 10:40:04] aron : and sell it when it doubles
[2017-03-13 10:40:09] BarefootFlash : With how much of your money?
[2017-03-13 10:40:21] aron : 10 usd
[2017-03-13 10:40:36] BarefootFlash : At what margin?
[2017-03-13 10:40:39] aron : 0
[2017-03-13 10:40:47] BarefootFlash : 1x, 2x, 5x, 10x
[2017-03-13 10:40:57] BarefootFlash : So, 1x?
[2017-03-13 10:41:01] aron : yes
[2017-03-13 10:41:24] BarefootFlash : You won't double your $10
[2017-03-13 10:41:33] aron : how do i double it
[2017-03-13 10:41:38] aron : 2x leverage?
[2017-03-13 10:42:01] thedukedog : Damnit liquidated
[2017-03-13 10:42:13] BarefootFlash : You would need to use leverage, but I'd suggest starting out with a small amount and small leverage, until you get more comfortable with the platform
[2017-03-13 10:42:27] Apocalyptic : BarefootFlash: of course he will, learn your math
[2017-03-13 10:42:30] thedukedog : Trurth @barefootflash
[2017-03-13 10:42:35] Ahhere : aron: try trading the test platform you can lose all the fake money you want
[2017-03-13 10:42:37] Apocalyptic : you can double USD on 1x
[2017-03-13 10:42:40] thedukedog : Don't be like me and loose 800 in one weekend
[2017-03-13 10:42:54] thedukedog : Better than going to vegas tho lol
[2017-03-13 10:43:07] BarefootFlash : Apocalyptic: Only if btc price doubles, haha
[2017-03-13 10:43:07] aron : someone told me that if I bought 1 btc with 100x leverage and btc rose by 1 percent i would double my btc
[2017-03-13 10:43:10] aron : is that correct?
[2017-03-13 10:43:11] thedukedog : Lose*
[2017-03-13 10:43:14] Apocalyptic : BarefootFlash: yes
[2017-03-13 10:43:17] Ahhere : do you have strippers in your house? @thedukedog
[2017-03-13 10:43:23] Apocalyptic : that was his plan if you read above
[2017-03-13 10:43:27] Actualiteit : aron: you'd get liqd before anything happens prolly
[2017-03-13 10:43:34] thedukedog : Not yet but i want to get an x pole installed
[2017-03-13 10:43:36] thedukedog : Lol
[2017-03-13 10:43:45] aron : actualite im not going to do it
[2017-03-13 10:43:50] aron : i just want to know the concept
[2017-03-13 10:43:59] thedukedog : Met a stripper once in Myrtle beach that had one installed at her apartment
[2017-03-13 10:44:02] aron : i want to know if i have the concept of leverage right
[2017-03-13 10:44:08] Actualiteit : aron: I see
[2017-03-13 10:44:13] Ahhere : aron: test first
[2017-03-13 10:44:17] thedukedog : Read the fans
[2017-03-13 10:44:22] thedukedog : So much info man
[2017-03-13 10:44:25] aron : because i keep playing with leverage and it doesnt affect my P&L
[2017-03-13 10:44:28] thedukedog : Faq
[2017-03-13 10:44:39] aron : thedukedog i did read it
[2017-03-13 10:45:38] Ahhere : aron: simulated trading https://testnet.bitmex.com/
[2017-03-13 10:45:49] BarefootFlash : ^
[2017-03-13 10:45:49] Ahhere : its like wearing a condom
[2017-03-13 10:45:58] Ahhere : instead of catching hiv
[2017-03-13 10:46:06] aron : lol
[2017-03-13 10:46:14] Ahhere : not as much fun
[2017-03-13 10:46:35] aron : can someone tell me what position i should have if i expect bitcoin to increase by the end of the year?
[2017-03-13 10:46:49] thedukedog : fuck no
[2017-03-13 10:46:57] thedukedog : are you dim?
[2017-03-13 10:47:10] thedukedog : If we knew what the price of btc would be in a year.... well we dont
[2017-03-13 10:47:10] Actualiteit : thedukedog: Stop fucking say fuck you fucker
[2017-03-13 10:47:25] thedukedog : what is with this fucking censor
[2017-03-13 10:47:28] thedukedog : are we 14
[2017-03-13 10:47:32] Actualiteit : thedukedog: It's glorious
[2017-03-13 10:47:34] Ahhere : your position should be as big as you want to risk with a liquidation 100$ lower than you expect bitcoin to go on the way to your target
[2017-03-13 10:47:35] elmorte : 12
[2017-03-13 10:47:37] aron : thedukedog i think it will be above 1500 this year
[2017-03-13 10:48:10] thedukedog : for sure
[2017-03-13 10:48:18] thedukedog : it was up 200 over ETF failing lol
[2017-03-13 10:48:23] aron : Ahhere I expect bitcoin to go down about 800 min
[2017-03-13 10:48:24] thedukedog : we could see 1500 this week
[2017-03-13 10:48:42] Actualiteit : There is a possibility we see 4000 this week
[2017-03-13 10:48:42] thedukedog : thats what someone was claiming here yesterday
[2017-03-13 10:48:47] thedukedog : saying they have insider info
[2017-03-13 10:48:52] thedukedog : but I think itll go up
[2017-03-13 10:49:00] thedukedog : trailing stop losses are your friend
[2017-03-13 10:49:05] Ahhere : aron: so make sure your liquidation is 700 and wait
[2017-03-13 10:49:12] Ahhere : trailing stops are shit imo
[2017-03-13 10:49:19] zy : no no no, you all wrong, 10k by end of year
[2017-03-13 10:49:24] thedukedog : guys if you get stressed today play your favorite song
[2017-03-13 10:49:25] thedukedog : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-_NNIX8cDA
[2017-03-13 10:49:28] aron : leveraging is useless why do u guys do it?
[2017-03-13 10:49:33] Actualiteit : zy: Dont be so pessimistic. 100k tomorrow
[2017-03-13 10:49:38] InvalidUser : We have been in the news a few times in the past 2 weeks ETF and ATH
[2017-03-13 10:49:41] aron : it doesnt increase your profits
[2017-03-13 10:49:53] thedukedog : its going to be a tumultuous day
[2017-03-13 10:50:16] arbitrage101 : tick size will change to 0.1
[2017-03-13 10:50:38] Apocalyptic : arbitrage101: that's good
[2017-03-13 10:50:45] Apocalyptic : the orderbooks will be less spammy
[2017-03-13 10:50:54] thedukedog : yeah also diversify your funds
[2017-03-13 10:51:05] zy : funding still negative
[2017-03-13 10:51:12] vonklo : arbitrage101: what?
[2017-03-13 10:51:15] thedukedog : go negative for a while
[2017-03-13 10:51:20] thedukedog : like go shor
[2017-03-13 10:51:41] thedukedog : happened to me too
[2017-03-13 10:51:44] thedukedog : they dont show fees
[2017-03-13 10:51:50] thedukedog : til you add more money
[2017-03-13 10:51:54] thedukedog : then they minus the fees