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[2017-03-13 04:37:19] ayo : eth futures trading pretty low
[2017-03-13 04:37:24] bitgod : gonna short dash tonight
[2017-03-13 04:38:08] -_- : the guy quoting alts must be doing better. started quoting bigger sizes again
[2017-03-13 04:38:26] -_- : spreads seem a bit better too
[2017-03-13 04:39:47] -_- : bitgod: DASH looks primed for a break up
[2017-03-13 04:42:19] Blemo : anyone think eth wil lleevel oput or just go right up
[2017-03-13 04:42:26] Blemo : out*
[2017-03-13 04:43:18] ayo : ETH resistance @0.022
[2017-03-13 05:00:42] l3f : https://twitter.com/BitmexRekt/status/841142219562188801
[2017-03-13 05:13:09] -_- : XMR new high
[2017-03-13 05:13:35] -_- : 0.017 soon
[2017-03-13 05:18:40] ayo : etherrrrrr aww yeah
[2017-03-13 05:19:13] -_- : 0.021
[2017-03-13 05:19:48] -_- : i wonder how many whales shorting the "top" only getting rekt on polo
[2017-03-13 05:23:59] mdsmm : /sentiment
[2017-03-13 05:24:02] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 34.21 / 65.79 Daily : 42.93 / 57.07 Weekly : 50.75 / 49.25 Monthly : 50.29 / 49.71```
[2017-03-13 05:26:21] -_- : i also wonder if a million ETH holder will market dump to rekt the longers
[2017-03-13 05:26:52] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: buy 4 @ 0.021140
[2017-03-13 05:29:32] -_- : after 0.022 i wonder if bunch of polo shorters close and push it to 0.025
[2017-03-13 05:30:12] ayo : it's possible
[2017-03-13 05:30:20] ayo : or other way around who knows
[2017-03-13 05:30:35] REKT : Liquidated short on `XMR7D`: buy 10 @ 0.014790
[2017-03-13 05:30:35] mdsmm : c'mon ETH
[2017-03-13 05:30:39] mdsmm : happy dayysssssss
[2017-03-13 05:31:05] mdsmm : big resistance up ahead?
[2017-03-13 05:32:53] -_- : dont know
[2017-03-13 05:32:58] -_- : up 13% recently
[2017-03-13 05:34:01] -_- : BTC big resistance on Bitfinex
[2017-03-13 05:34:31] etoque : ok guys
[2017-03-13 05:34:39] etoque : ETH about to become something,very big lol
[2017-03-13 05:34:46] mdsmm : yeah haha
[2017-03-13 05:34:54] mdsmm : Longed it at 14-15
[2017-03-13 05:34:58] mdsmm : so i'm happy haha
[2017-03-13 05:36:30] ayo : ETH really turboing in
[2017-03-13 05:36:49] -_- : ETH went from no buy orders when it was 0.01 ish on Polo to 2.5 billion dollar market cap and a shit ton of demand
[2017-03-13 05:36:52] rapidtrades : wtf is ETH doing
[2017-03-13 05:37:05] rapidtrades : 2.5 bil market cap is rly stupid
[2017-03-13 05:37:11] -_- : ETH is the future of something
[2017-03-13 05:37:20] mdsmm : resitance at .022 ish
[2017-03-13 05:37:20] ayo : the flippening
[2017-03-13 05:37:24] rapidtrades : not as retard.ed as bitcoin's 20b market cap but close
[2017-03-13 05:37:26] ayo : btc taking adump
[2017-03-13 05:38:23] -_- : mdsmm: are you dumping to make that resistance
[2017-03-13 05:38:28] ayo : this is the perfect setup for eth
[2017-03-13 05:38:43] mdsmm : I ain't dumping shit haha
[2017-03-13 05:38:50] mdsmm : long all the way
[2017-03-13 05:38:57] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 250 @ 1234.88
[2017-03-13 05:39:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: buy 30 @ 0.022540
[2017-03-13 05:39:10] rapidtrades : dash has 500mil market cap
[2017-03-13 05:39:16] rapidtrades : we're truly in crazy town right now
[2017-03-13 05:39:28] -_- : i wouldnt be surprised to see ETH go up 70% in 1 day right now
[2017-03-13 05:39:45] etoque : look soo volatile
[2017-03-13 05:40:00] -_- : 0.025 gets taken out and no one puts new sell walls up
[2017-03-13 05:40:11] rapidtrades : all of these coins moves look legit, dash ETH etc
[2017-03-13 05:40:16] rapidtrades : BTC is so fake
[2017-03-13 05:40:32] ayo : everyone is jumping ship from btc
[2017-03-13 05:40:35] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: buy 5 @ 0.022850
[2017-03-13 05:40:35] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: buy 18 @ 0.022930
[2017-03-13 05:40:36] ayo : just watch
[2017-03-13 05:40:48] -_- : XMR spike up
[2017-03-13 05:40:48] rapidtrades : i wonder if ppl are just using BTC as on-ramp to buy alts
[2017-03-13 05:41:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: buy 99 @ 0.023100
[2017-03-13 05:41:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: buy 556 @ 0.023090
[2017-03-13 05:41:08] rapidtrades : cos its not as easy to outright buy ETH, Dash etc with fiat
[2017-03-13 05:41:12] InvalidUser : https://i.reddituploads.com/7ae58e43527a4fdba0dab0afd8b4da20?fit=max&h=1536&w=1536&s=9643e486c53b209c8002d75bace56fc9
[2017-03-13 05:41:23] mdsmm : rapidtrades: I did haha
[2017-03-13 05:41:36] mdsmm : for some alts at least
[2017-03-13 05:41:40] mdsmm : well got to go to work
[2017-03-13 05:41:54] mdsmm : made already more this morning than my entire salary for March, fuck this hahaha
[2017-03-13 05:41:58] mdsmm : bye!
[2017-03-13 05:42:16] ayo : cya
[2017-03-13 05:42:21] ayo : have fun at work stay safe
[2017-03-13 05:43:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `REP7D`: buy 13 @ 0.006429
[2017-03-13 05:45:44] -_- : rofl ETH
[2017-03-13 05:45:45] -_- : i shorted the top
[2017-03-13 05:45:46] -_- : woot
[2017-03-13 05:46:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: sell 30 @ 0.021990
[2017-03-13 05:46:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: sell 482 @ 0.022190
[2017-03-13 05:47:41] -_- : man didnt realize how quickly you can make money in ETH
[2017-03-13 05:48:07] ayo : yeah i just got out of my position with 150%+
[2017-03-13 05:48:27] -_- : i should have longed it way sooner.
[2017-03-13 05:48:52] InvalidUser : The PBoC keeps releasing the same news over and over again.
[2017-03-13 05:49:04] ayo : my entry was around 0.01953 hbu?
[2017-03-13 05:49:13] bitgod : dash money is moving to ETH
[2017-03-13 05:49:31] amirmass : long btc now
[2017-03-13 05:50:24] InvalidUser : I think the PBoC forgot that people don;t listen to china anymore about BTC.
[2017-03-13 05:50:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: sell 20 @ 0.021020
[2017-03-13 05:50:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: sell 600 @ 0.021060
[2017-03-13 05:51:27] -_- : what i dont get is why people get margin called instead of panic dumping
[2017-03-13 05:51:30] -_- : save yourself some money
[2017-03-13 05:52:23] Rado : That was fast
[2017-03-13 05:52:40] Rado : couldn't get a short near 0.024
[2017-03-13 05:53:19] -_- : lol so much for that XMR spike
[2017-03-13 05:54:09] -_- : DASH and ETH about to correct or not is the question
[2017-03-13 05:54:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 982 @ 1233.75
[2017-03-13 05:55:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 14970 @ 1232.70
[2017-03-13 05:55:22] REKT : Getting chopped to death is fun, everyone should try it!
[2017-03-13 05:56:57] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 10 @ 1231.97
[2017-03-13 05:58:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 300 @ 1231.27
[2017-03-13 05:58:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 100 @ 1231.65
[2017-03-13 05:59:03] -_- : DASH this could be the start of the dump
[2017-03-13 05:59:38] -_- : see if someone holds it above 0.06
[2017-03-13 06:01:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: buy 8 @ 0.022220
[2017-03-13 06:02:00] Rado : I am short Dash from 0.06
[2017-03-13 06:02:13] Rado : XMR is also a nice short
[2017-03-13 06:02:16] -_- : looks like no one is actively trying to push it down
[2017-03-13 06:02:27] -_- : DASH that is
[2017-03-13 06:02:29] Rado : Give it time
[2017-03-13 06:02:40] Rado : when they start selling will be fun
[2017-03-13 06:02:44] -_- : yeah
[2017-03-13 06:02:51] -_- : this will bounce back to 0.064 it seems
[2017-03-13 06:04:35] Rado : There are no bids here
[2017-03-13 06:12:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: buy 100 @ 0.021630
[2017-03-13 06:17:57] JasonLi : eth and dash in bull mkt
[2017-03-13 06:18:22] -_- : XMR too
[2017-03-13 06:18:26] JasonLi : short them not smart
[2017-03-13 06:18:55] -_- : XMR went up 46% last week. 10% this week
[2017-03-13 06:19:07] heheh lo : JasonLi: it might be nice to buy on the dip tho, for eth
[2017-03-13 06:21:19] JasonLi : heheh lo: indeed. I bought a few eth, will buy more on the dip
[2017-03-13 06:22:47] dorothy490 : what is the soruce data for .xbt index? http://bitmex.kaiko.com/ not working
[2017-03-13 06:23:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `DASH7D`: sell 50 @ 0.058091
[2017-03-13 06:23:02] BitMEX_John : dorothy490: we have our own index now
[2017-03-13 06:23:12] dorothy490 : based o nwhat?
[2017-03-13 06:23:22] BitMEX_John : dorothy490: its currently 50% OKC USD and 50% Bitstamp
[2017-03-13 06:23:51] BitMEX_John : dorothy490: https://www.bitmex.com/app/index/.XBT
[2017-03-13 06:23:57] SilverKnight : BitMEX_John: aha! I've been noticing a closer correlation to bitstamp recently
[2017-03-13 06:26:05] -_- : ETH and DASH dumping a bit
[2017-03-13 06:26:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `DASH7D`: sell 2 @ 0.056772
[2017-03-13 06:27:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: sell 5 @ 0.020760
[2017-03-13 06:28:46] InvalidUser : The ETH dump has started
[2017-03-13 06:30:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `DASH7D`: buy 1 @ 0.058488
[2017-03-13 06:30:33] InvalidUser : Bitflyer going up
[2017-03-13 06:31:48] -_- : ETH dump has ended
[2017-03-13 06:31:51] -_- : XMR dump has begun
[2017-03-13 06:31:57] -_- : DASH dump has ended
[2017-03-13 06:32:18] Rado : -_-: how do you know
[2017-03-13 06:32:27] -_- : fuck ETH
[2017-03-13 06:32:30] -_- : someone market dumped to new low
[2017-03-13 06:32:39] Rado : people buying the dip, but the dump can resume after
[2017-03-13 06:32:56] -_- : BTC dump
[2017-03-13 06:33:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 80 @ 1226.29
[2017-03-13 06:33:21] heheh lo : might see 1180 again
[2017-03-13 06:34:35] heheh lo : lol the alts dump are weak
[2017-03-13 06:35:42] heheh lo : any thoughts on xrp
[2017-03-13 06:37:34] rapidtrades : wtf bitcoin crashing wtith ETH?
[2017-03-13 06:37:50] rapidtrades : or ETH crashing cos of bitcoin
[2017-03-13 06:38:03] heheh lo : china whale cashing out for big lunch
[2017-03-13 06:38:10] -_- : probably some old ETH holder cashing out on Bitfinex
[2017-03-13 06:39:17] Rado : rapidtrades: 2nd
[2017-03-13 06:40:05] heheh lo : eth new support line at 0.02?
[2017-03-13 06:40:30] Rado : More like 0.016
[2017-03-13 06:40:45] Rado : 0.022-0.024 resistance
[2017-03-13 06:41:10] heheh lo : recovering fast
[2017-03-13 06:41:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: buy 300 @ 0.021210
[2017-03-13 06:42:05] heheh lo : yup, owned
[2017-03-13 06:43:43] Rado : Dash prices here closer to index now
[2017-03-13 06:43:47] JasonLi : MMM used eth now?
[2017-03-13 06:45:07] InvalidUser : Damn that is a lot of contracts
[2017-03-13 06:46:00] Rado : InvalidUser: ETH?
[2017-03-13 06:46:13] InvalidUser : BTC
[2017-03-13 06:47:20] Rado : Always
[2017-03-13 06:48:20] Tetsuo : short all the coins!
[2017-03-13 06:48:25] InvalidUser : The guy from Bitmex said that they got the most USD deposit requests ever on Friday that should start to get released on Monday early AM
[2017-03-13 06:48:40] heheh lo : Tetsuo: bad idea
[2017-03-13 06:48:49] etoque : very bad
[2017-03-13 06:49:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: buy 501 @ 0.021310
[2017-03-13 06:49:11] heheh lo : ^
[2017-03-13 06:49:14] Rado : InvalidUser: you can't deposit USD
[2017-03-13 06:49:19] Rado : only BTC
[2017-03-13 06:49:40] InvalidUser : Are you sure, that is what he said,, I will listen to the audio again.
[2017-03-13 06:49:55] Rado : I am 100% sure
[2017-03-13 06:49:56] InvalidUser : A fuk not Bitmex Bitfinex
[2017-03-13 06:50:18] Rado : Right
[2017-03-13 06:50:44] InvalidUser : <---------- Doesn't know what he's doing anymore.
[2017-03-13 06:51:05] BitNut : InvalidUser: isnt it already Monday Hong Kong time?
[2017-03-13 06:51:11] Rado : Dump those dash coins
[2017-03-13 06:51:32] Rado : it's Monday here in Thailand
[2017-03-13 06:51:40] Rado : almost 2 pm
[2017-03-13 06:52:15] Rado : Honk Kong is already well into the day
[2017-03-13 06:52:24] InvalidUser : Yes it is.. He said about 1am pst IDK if it's true or not but he owns Bitfinx and that is what he said. It's 12 PST now.
[2017-03-13 06:55:15] Rado : Dash MM is gone for lunch
[2017-03-13 06:55:35] Rado : perfect time for some liquidations
[2017-03-13 06:58:40] Rado : Dash should correct to at least 0.050
[2017-03-13 06:58:59] Rado : I always close way early
[2017-03-13 07:00:01] heheh lo : next dump dash
[2017-03-13 07:01:31] kurkudu : dash must die
[2017-03-13 07:01:39] heheh lo : i concur
[2017-03-13 07:04:15] heheh lo : getting back in eth
[2017-03-13 07:04:25] heheh lo : /wall
[2017-03-13 07:04:28] heheh lo : /walls
[2017-03-13 07:04:31] trollbot : ``` ±$10 Bid|Ask liq : (2 hours, 31 mins) $672K (-54.78%) | $1163K (-4.37%) ```
[2017-03-13 07:07:04] ching ching : Rado: where in Thailand are you?
[2017-03-13 07:08:37] Rado : Koh Lanta
[2017-03-13 07:09:01] Rado : next week Koh Samui and the Bangkok
[2017-03-13 07:16:07] aron : mark price = market price right
[2017-03-13 07:16:51] NooBTCrader : aron: https://www.bitmex.com/app/fairPriceMarking
[2017-03-13 07:17:22] Rado : aron: no
[2017-03-13 07:20:32] Rado : Trading dash right now it's like pulling teeth
[2017-03-13 07:23:38] Ahhere : Rado: i gave up on dash it's too random
[2017-03-13 07:24:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: sell 400 @ 0.021570
[2017-03-13 07:24:48] Ahhere : Rado: koh Tao is a good spot to chill and scuba
[2017-03-13 07:25:12] Rado : Ahhere: thanks
[2017-03-13 07:25:35] Rado : going to get a Thai massage now
[2017-03-13 07:25:47] Rado : 350 baht
[2017-03-13 07:26:37] Rado : 0.00811 Bitcoin
[2017-03-13 07:26:55] Rado : Can't beat that
[2017-03-13 07:27:05] NukeLaloosh : Rado: that better be for 2 hours at that price lol
[2017-03-13 07:27:32] Rado : 1 hr
[2017-03-13 07:27:36] KyllingLolsson : /sentiment
[2017-03-13 07:27:36] -_- : Long DASH in case good news comes out today. Someone must be buying for a reason
[2017-03-13 07:27:39] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 59.03 / 40.97 Daily : 45.33 / 54.67 Weekly : 50.90 / 49.10 Monthly : 50.39 / 49.61```
[2017-03-13 07:28:01] Rado : -_-: bad decision imo
[2017-03-13 07:28:06] NooBTCrader : -_-: they are buying 'cause you are buying ! :p
[2017-03-13 07:28:17] Actualiteit : /wall
[2017-03-13 07:28:19] trollbot : ``` ±$10 Bid|Ask liq : (23 mins) $872K (-24.71%) | $876K (29.70%) ```
[2017-03-13 07:28:21] NooBTCrader : It's the circle of rekt
[2017-03-13 07:29:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `DASH7D`: buy 5 @ 0.060409
[2017-03-13 07:29:08] aron : should i buy DASH right now
[2017-03-13 07:29:24] Rado : aron: no
[2017-03-13 07:32:10] heheh lo : is it just me or the mark price is @ 1228
[2017-03-13 07:33:54] InvalidUser : heheh lo: Mine says moon
[2017-03-13 07:33:56] BitMEX_John : heheh lo: which contract the swap or future?
[2017-03-13 07:34:08] Rado : 1226.74 now
[2017-03-13 07:34:12] heheh lo : swap, its okay i think it works now @ 1226
[2017-03-13 07:34:13] heheh lo : yes
[2017-03-13 07:34:28] KingTuna : up 610% ROE ETH .. Thought id learn my lesson and sell half here lol . Im sure it can go A LOT higher but have been destroyed in the past. Happy!
[2017-03-13 07:35:00] heheh lo : KingTuna: i closed around .022, thinking a retrace
[2017-03-13 07:35:03] Rado : KingTuna: roe is useless stat
[2017-03-13 07:35:13] Rado : post BTC profit
[2017-03-13 07:35:20] Ahhere : Rado: lol nice price massages alright
[2017-03-13 07:35:33] Yazz : /price
[2017-03-13 07:35:39] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1222.73 (-0.98%) Bitfinex : 1215.20 (-1.47%) The Woodchipper : 1230.72 (-0.89%) itBit : 1221.84 (-1.27%) Kraken : 1204.00 (-2.18%) GDAX : 1222.00 (-1.96%) SLQ : 3 hours, 15 mins```
[2017-03-13 07:35:49] Rado : Ahhere: I made more than 1 BTC from Dash
[2017-03-13 07:35:59] Rado : imagine how many massages are that
[2017-03-13 07:37:05] Rado : See ya later guys
[2017-03-13 07:37:08] Rado : my turn
[2017-03-13 07:37:12] Ahhere : Lol i made thereabouts last week shorting dash from 0.04 lucky I closed that thing is too unpredictable. ETHUSD is a great trade can't believe I closed it at 12$
[2017-03-13 07:37:16] KingTuna : Rado: I like to look at it.. Look every pretty LOL
[2017-03-13 07:37:23] Ahhere : Still hodling tho
[2017-03-13 07:37:38] XXXX : Getting in ZEC Long. Glad it is quarterly and not weekly.
[2017-03-13 07:42:12] aron : i entered market at 1219 and price is 1216 right now, shouldnt i be at a loss?
[2017-03-13 07:42:22] aron : why is PNL showing positive 2%
[2017-03-13 07:42:31] aron : i know it can be because of mark price
[2017-03-13 07:42:38] aron : but if i sell it now i make a loss
[2017-03-13 07:42:45] Yazz : mark price is 1224
[2017-03-13 07:43:00] SilverKnight : aron: just cuz of Mark
[2017-03-13 07:43:03] aron : yes but if i sell it i make a loss
[2017-03-13 07:43:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 11500 @ 1223.01
[2017-03-13 07:43:11] SilverKnight : aron: yes
[2017-03-13 07:43:21] aron : this GUI is bad then
[2017-03-13 07:43:22] SilverKnight : aron: whats the question?
[2017-03-13 07:43:23] MikeHunt : mondumpday?
[2017-03-13 07:43:38] aron : SilverKnight the question is that isnt this stupid then
[2017-03-13 07:43:46] aron : like Bitmex shouldnt do this
[2017-03-13 07:43:55] SilverKnight : aron: no... you just need to do the math yourself
[2017-03-13 07:44:01] MikeHunt : aron: RoE is generally inaccurate
[2017-03-13 07:44:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 116 @ 1221.23
[2017-03-13 07:44:05] aron : MikeHunt do you buy bitcoins on paxful?
[2017-03-13 07:44:09] MikeHunt : aron: no
[2017-03-13 07:44:21] aron : ok
[2017-03-13 07:44:51] aron : can someone tell me how i can buy bitcoin? currently im paying 20% comission
[2017-03-13 07:45:14] aron : best comission im paying is 10%
[2017-03-13 07:45:29] aron : and paying another 5% comission to sell my bitcoins
[2017-03-13 07:45:29] SilverKnight : aron: this is derivative trading on crypto currencies... its gonna have its limitations.
[2017-03-13 07:45:45] SilverKnight : aron: you just have to find a way to make it work for you
[2017-03-13 07:45:50] aron : ok
[2017-03-13 07:46:57] BitMEX_John : aron: liquidations are also based on mark price
[2017-03-13 07:47:12] SilverKnight : aron: if you do have an idea of how to improve the trading conditions, then im sure the guys at BitMEX would be happy to hear your suggestions
[2017-03-13 07:47:17] SilverKnight : :P
[2017-03-13 07:47:22] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECH17`: buy 37 @ 0.039141
[2017-03-13 07:49:10] MikeHunt : aron: tried buying on coinbase/stamp?
[2017-03-13 07:49:14] -_- : Zec finally going to double in price
[2017-03-13 07:49:25] aron : entry price is 1218, market price 1221, shouldnt i be making profit?
[2017-03-13 07:49:37] aron : unrealised PNL shows negative .00001
[2017-03-13 07:49:39] SilverKnight : technically you are
[2017-03-13 07:49:46] MikeHunt : aron: minus fees = loss
[2017-03-13 07:49:50] SilverKnight : unrealized profit at present
[2017-03-13 07:50:00] MikeHunt : aron: generally the spread for profit is about $4
[2017-03-13 07:50:01] SilverKnight : based on the current bid
[2017-03-13 07:50:11] -_- : Too hard to get in zec here
[2017-03-13 07:50:23] aron : MikeHunt so I cant make money by betting 1 usd right
[2017-03-13 07:50:30] aron : MikeHunt okay ill try stamp
[2017-03-13 07:50:54] MikeHunt : aron: no, btc must go up by $4 before you make money
[2017-03-13 07:51:00] MikeHunt : aron: or down $4 if short
[2017-03-13 07:51:06] aron : okay
[2017-03-13 07:51:07] SilverKnight : Mike, I've made money on less of a move
[2017-03-13 07:51:23] SilverKnight : fees dont take up $4 of movement in my experience
[2017-03-13 07:51:25] MikeHunt : SilverKnight: dont have time for exact figure ;)
[2017-03-13 07:51:28] aron : MikeHunt, this is because im buying very low contracts right
[2017-03-13 07:51:59] aron : okay it moved up 4 usd
[2017-03-13 07:52:05] aron : im still at loss
[2017-03-13 07:52:09] SilverKnight : https://www.bitmex.com/app/fees
[2017-03-13 07:52:18] SilverKnight : can you just do the math in your head?
[2017-03-13 07:52:23] SilverKnight : look at the current bid
[2017-03-13 07:52:33] MikeHunt : aron: RoE is usually incorrect
[2017-03-13 07:52:39] MikeHunt : aron: do calculations urself
[2017-03-13 07:53:12] 1345 : ㅈㄹ
[2017-03-13 07:53:17] aron : i sold it at market price i made no profit no loss :(
[2017-03-13 07:53:31] SilverKnight : market orders have a higher fee
[2017-03-13 07:53:39] SilverKnight : there is a taker and maker fee
[2017-03-13 07:53:47] SilverKnight : read the link
[2017-03-13 07:53:48] aron : MikeHunt how much do you usually buy
[2017-03-13 07:53:48] BitMEX_John : aron: you can use the calculator tool in the top left hand corner to model profit/loss
[2017-03-13 07:53:49] SilverKnight : I posted above
[2017-03-13 07:53:53] MikeHunt : aron: if you sell around +/- $4 you will break even
[2017-03-13 07:54:39] aron : mikehunt how much do u usually spend
[2017-03-13 07:55:21] MikeHunt : aron: iirc the golden trading rule is dont risk more than 10% on any one trade, but it really depends how much capital you have
[2017-03-13 07:55:26] MikeHunt : as you may wish to do less
[2017-03-13 07:55:48] aron : mikehunt but because of fees i shouldnt trade 1 usd
[2017-03-13 07:55:53] aron : maybe i should trade 10 usd?
[2017-03-13 07:56:32] MikeHunt : aron: in order to make a profitable market trade you need a spread of at least $4
[2017-03-13 07:56:46] MikeHunt : if you want to make actual money then you'll need to invest more
[2017-03-13 07:57:02] MikeHunt : but since ur new i recommend just keeping to $1 or $10 etc.
[2017-03-13 07:57:12] aron : lets say market price is 1224 and it becomes 1228 but ill still make loss
[2017-03-13 07:57:21] MikeHunt : you'd break even
[2017-03-13 07:57:32] aron : but you said id be profitable
[2017-03-13 07:58:02] MikeHunt : aron: it may be slightly profitable but not much, basically break even
[2017-03-13 07:58:20] aron : even if i buy 100 contracts?
[2017-03-13 07:58:37] MikeHunt : aron: use easybitcoincalculator.com
[2017-03-13 07:58:43] MikeHunt : put 0.15 as fee
[2017-03-13 07:59:11] MikeHunt : ive gtg now but that should allow you to calculate trades and get rough idea
[2017-03-13 08:00:01] aron : mikehunt whats wrong with bitmex calc
[2017-03-13 08:01:48] MikeHunt : aron: doesnt include fees
[2017-03-13 08:02:00] aron : ohhh ok
[2017-03-13 08:02:58] KyllingLolsson : /sentiment
[2017-03-13 08:03:01] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 50.34 / 49.66 Daily : 45.32 / 54.68 Weekly : 50.89 / 49.11 Monthly : 50.39 / 49.62```
[2017-03-13 08:05:51] AudibleScience : aron: as a rule of thumb at this price level, if you catch a $1.84 price delta, you cover the taker fee on both entry and exit.
[2017-03-13 08:07:29] aron : Audible price that means that if price goes up by 3 usd i should make profit
[2017-03-13 08:08:01] AudibleScience : correct
[2017-03-13 08:09:01] SilverKnight : aron: thats with taker fees only, not maker
[2017-03-13 08:09:13] SilverKnight : so dont use market orders
[2017-03-13 08:09:21] SilverKnight : limit only
[2017-03-13 08:09:45] aron : i bought at 1221 and have set limit at 1229
[2017-03-13 08:10:09] SilverKnight : did you buy with limit or market?
[2017-03-13 08:10:11] aron : wont i still make profit if instead of setting limit at 1229 i sold when price became 1229?
[2017-03-13 08:10:20] aron : silverknight i bought with market
[2017-03-13 08:10:44] SilverKnight : aron: ok well then you pay a higher fee from the get go for market orders, entry or exit
[2017-03-13 08:11:00] SilverKnight : $8 in profit will still cover that, but your profits will be clearly less
[2017-03-13 08:11:06] aron : Ohh ok thanks
[2017-03-13 08:11:31] SilverKnight : no prob
[2017-03-13 08:11:59] aron : Silverknight the market price right now is 1223.7 if i buy using limit at 1224 am i not paying a .3 fees for nothing
[2017-03-13 08:12:09] aron : if i buy a whole btc
[2017-03-13 08:12:28] aron : and then the normal fees is added
[2017-03-13 08:13:49] AudibleScience : aron: If you pay the taker fee to enter the market and you market make your way out of your position your maker rebase can be subtracted from the fee you paid to enter so you only need to catch a $0.62 price delta to be in profit.
[2017-03-13 08:14:09] aron : oh i see
[2017-03-13 08:14:15] SilverKnight : if you look at the "realized PNL" heading of your position stats, that shows how much you have paid so far
[2017-03-13 08:14:19] SilverKnight : for the position
[2017-03-13 08:14:54] SilverKnight : then go to the calculator and put in the price for entry and exit, then subtract the realized profit amount from what the calculator says you would make and thats what it will be
[2017-03-13 08:20:14] Kobe : Is now a good time to buy Ethereum for long hodling purposes?
[2017-03-13 08:21:35] SilverKnight : Kobe: ummm....
[2017-03-13 08:21:46] BitMEX_John : Kobe: please note our ethereum contract settles in 4 days
[2017-03-13 08:22:00] BitMEX_John : Kobe: but you can re-open the position after that if you like
[2017-03-13 08:22:47] Kobe : SilverKnight: thanks
[2017-03-13 08:22:57] Kobe : BitMEX_John: gotcha
[2017-03-13 08:28:21] KyllingLolsson : /sentiment
[2017-03-13 08:28:24] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 51.92 / 48.08 Daily : 45.68 / 54.32 Weekly : 50.92 / 49.08 Monthly : 50.39 / 49.61```
[2017-03-13 08:30:48] Ahhere : >1250 soon
[2017-03-13 08:30:55] Ahhere : >
[2017-03-13 08:38:26] Ahhere : u fkers asleep or what?
[2017-03-13 08:38:44] QuinnTrades : never
[2017-03-13 08:38:55] Ahhere : oioi thats the spirit
[2017-03-13 08:39:17] QuinnTrades : just trading alts atm for the most part
[2017-03-13 08:39:20] QuinnTrades : and cant do it on here
[2017-03-13 08:39:45] Actualiteit : Ahhere: Sleep is for the weak
[2017-03-13 08:40:10] Ahhere : yeah I want to long eth but I believe btc will make a run for 1300 soon and everyone will come runing back to btcusd
[2017-03-13 08:40:58] Actualiteit : Ahhere: I am waiting for an ETH dip since 18$ lol
[2017-03-13 08:41:06] Ahhere : QuinnTrades: where do you alt trade?
[2017-03-13 08:41:11] Ahhere : polo?
[2017-03-13 08:41:12] Actualiteit : so yeah Ill just hodl the ones I already have
[2017-03-13 08:41:18] QuinnTrades : prolo
[2017-03-13 08:41:21] QuinnTrades : polo
[2017-03-13 08:41:22] QuinnTrades : *
[2017-03-13 08:41:40] QuinnTrades : low leverage but with 10-15% swings its fine
[2017-03-13 08:41:45] Ahhere : Actualiteit: same made more from rotating into eth recently than I did from 3 months trading btc
[2017-03-13 08:42:19] Ahhere : QuinnTrades: yeah but i find it hard to do longer term trades. alts do nothing for 2 years then explode
[2017-03-13 08:42:42] QuinnTrades : Ahhere: Hoping eth comes up this year, feel like it might
[2017-03-13 08:43:13] QuinnTrades : mostly cos the infighting over btc is so fucking annoying
[2017-03-13 08:43:32] Ahhere : i would not be shockd at 100$ - the infighting is not so bad
[2017-03-13 08:43:47] Actualiteit : Id like eth to go big this time, don't like the hardforks though, kinda defeats the whole decentralized thing
[2017-03-13 08:43:47] Ahhere : its like two parents arguing who loves the kid more
[2017-03-13 08:43:49] Actualiteit : did provide nice dips tho
[2017-03-13 08:43:51] Ahhere : kid will be fine
[2017-03-13 08:44:22] QuinnTrades : Oh yeah I think it'll be fine, but it doesnt take much to rocket the alt prices
[2017-03-13 08:44:32] QuinnTrades : I mean those will go up, rather than btc going down
[2017-03-13 08:45:03] Ahhere : is it insane to trade eth here? dont trust polo and withdrawal restrictions are gay there if your alts rocket
[2017-03-13 08:45:34] QuinnTrades : idk, last night I lost 0.3 btc on a long of dash
[2017-03-13 08:45:39] QuinnTrades : dash went up everywhere else
[2017-03-13 08:45:42] QuinnTrades : and went down on here
[2017-03-13 08:45:45] Ahhere : ffs
[2017-03-13 08:45:52] QuinnTrades : got so fucked
[2017-03-13 08:45:58] QuinnTrades : so i'm just leaving them lol
[2017-03-13 08:47:18] Ahhere : 10or 20 x in the right direction could make so much money tho lol. v tempting
[2017-03-13 08:47:42] QuinnTrades : if you go for it, let me know if it works out
[2017-03-13 08:47:52] QuinnTrades : I'd love to be able to :p
[2017-03-13 08:49:39] Ahhere : maybe I should short dash again
[2017-03-13 08:53:30] vonklo : 1230 broken
[2017-03-13 08:53:48] QuinnTrades : did you just short dash @Ahhere
[2017-03-13 08:54:03] QuinnTrades : it just jumped up lol
[2017-03-13 08:54:40] Ahhere : just sold 50 contracts, I'll try and get another 150 around 0.065 and bet on 0.05 before 0.07
[2017-03-13 08:55:10] QuinnTrades : gl
[2017-03-13 08:55:29] Ahhere : just a bit of revenge trading sold all my dash at 5 dollars lol
[2017-03-13 08:55:37] Actualiteit : get them profits mayne, I'm keeping my hand s off of it
[2017-03-13 08:55:37] Actualiteit : ouch
[2017-03-13 08:55:42] QuinnTrades : haha
[2017-03-13 08:55:52] Actualiteit : well who wouldve knopwn it would take off to these levels
[2017-03-13 08:56:20] Actualiteit : I mean I was thinking "yeah this pump is over" at 25$
[2017-03-13 08:56:33] Ahhere : crazy I thought it was a rip off at 15$
[2017-03-13 09:05:41] Ahhere : good r/r short dash here (famous last words lol)
[2017-03-13 09:08:47] ross : I think you'll see dash ath again before it drops
[2017-03-13 09:10:04] aron : quinntrades were u making a joke or is Dash really quite manupilatable
[2017-03-13 09:10:42] djkaltenudel : /rekt
[2017-03-13 09:10:42] trollbot : ``` 3 recent REKTs > 100K: ``` ``` 36 hours, 56 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 233932 @ 1166.68 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire: ``` ``` 48 hours, 13 mins ago: Liquidated short on `XBTH17`: buy 235337 @ 1196.58 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire: ``` ``` 58 hours, 58 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBCH17`: sell 235620 @ 7605.8 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire: ```
[2017-03-13 09:11:11] QuinnTrades : aron: No I literally was forced to close an order at -500 ROE because it was going down on here while it went up everywhere else
[2017-03-13 09:11:38] aron : but i thought the mark price stopped this form happening
[2017-03-13 09:11:51] aron : it should give u the fair price and not last price for liquidation
[2017-03-13 09:12:29] QuinnTrades : mark price is an indicator, it's pretty irrelivant on the exchange you trade on
[2017-03-13 09:12:44] aron : quinntrades shouldnt we buy dash right now then
[2017-03-13 09:12:52] aron : if its going up everywhere else
[2017-03-13 09:13:27] QuinnTrades : you'd think
[2017-03-13 09:13:34] QuinnTrades : Tried that
[2017-03-13 09:13:40] QuinnTrades : and it kept going up everywhere else
[2017-03-13 09:13:47] QuinnTrades : and went down on here and fked me
[2017-03-13 09:13:56] Ahhere : its lower here because much more people are selling
[2017-03-13 09:14:02] aron : if u put min leverage then u dont have to liquidate
[2017-03-13 09:14:16] aron : i mean u have to put at a really low price
[2017-03-13 09:14:22] Ahhere : whereas on polo there are some actual buyers of 'physical' dash
[2017-03-13 09:14:27] aron : but not put*
[2017-03-13 09:14:48] aron : cant i buy here and sell on polo?
[2017-03-13 09:15:37] QuinnTrades : You're not getting dash here
[2017-03-13 09:15:48] QuinnTrades : you're buying and selling contracts
[2017-03-13 09:15:51] QuinnTrades : everything is btc
[2017-03-13 09:15:59] Ahhere : dirty derivatives
[2017-03-13 09:16:12] aron : i see
[2017-03-13 09:16:58] aron : quinntrades whats ur positon on xbt?
[2017-03-13 09:17:16] aron : i think xbt is easier to profit from instead of dash
[2017-03-13 09:18:08] QuinnTrades : aron: small long
[2017-03-13 09:18:41] aron : small means low number of contracts or a short duration of time?
[2017-03-13 09:18:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `DASH7D`: buy 8 @ 0.061334
[2017-03-13 09:19:42] QuinnTrades : low number of contracts
[2017-03-13 09:20:36] aron : /guide
[2017-03-13 09:20:36] trollbot : ``` Dear newcomer Please watch this video to get started with BitMex: ``` https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSh2bM3UP04 ``` Also make sure to read the docs: ``` https://www.bitmex.com/app/tradingOverview ``` Remember to trade small with low leverage until you understand how things work, otherwise you will get liquidated (REKT) pretty soon :boom: ```
[2017-03-13 09:21:07] aron : /joke
[2017-03-13 09:21:08] trollbot : ``` Do you know what DNA is an acronym for? The National Dyslexia Association ```
[2017-03-13 09:21:17] aron : lol
[2017-03-13 09:21:29] Yazz : ha... didn't know that command
[2017-03-13 09:22:19] Ahhere : /amihomosexual
[2017-03-13 09:22:26] aron : yes
[2017-03-13 09:22:33] Ahhere : nice thx
[2017-03-13 09:22:44] aron : anytime
[2017-03-13 09:22:44] Yazz : which exchanges do you guys reference for price leading?
[2017-03-13 09:22:51] aron : XBT
[2017-03-13 09:23:04] QuinnTrades : /price
[2017-03-13 09:23:07] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1231.00 (0.68%) Bitfinex : 1225.90 (0.88%) The Woodchipper : 1234.93 (0.34%) itBit : 1229.83 (0.65%) Kraken : 1221.00 (1.41%) GDAX : 1228.87 (0.56%) SLQ : 1 hour, 47 mins```
[2017-03-13 09:23:14] Yazz : No I mean which BTC echange
[2017-03-13 09:23:20] InvalidUser : Sweet TY Bitmex,, just read my email.
[2017-03-13 09:23:33] aron : what happened IU
[2017-03-13 09:23:58] Ahhere : dash about to make a move which way tho...
[2017-03-13 09:24:22] aron : up
[2017-03-13 09:24:49] Ahhere : bitcoin also getting close to trendline, I'm hoping bitcoin decides for dash
[2017-03-13 09:25:47] KyllingLolsson : Ahhere: how ya doin
[2017-03-13 09:26:18] zaico : if the fund interval has changed to 2 hours why it shows a 8 hour period on "Funding History" and "Contract Specification"
[2017-03-13 09:26:18] Ahhere : KyllingLolsson: all good missus gone to gym baby gone asleep, preworkout taken ready to rock
[2017-03-13 09:26:20] zaico : ¿
[2017-03-13 09:26:21] aron : quinntrades I shorted xbt using Limit and then I wanted to buy it using Limit but it closed my position on short
[2017-03-13 09:26:24] Ahhere : u? @KyllingLolsson
[2017-03-13 09:26:33] aron : is there a way i can simaltaneously do both
[2017-03-13 09:26:50] aron : i want 1 contract for buy and 1 for sell
[2017-03-13 09:26:58] QuinnTrades : You can't long and sell at the same time
[2017-03-13 09:27:05] djkaltenudel : not here
[2017-03-13 09:27:06] KyllingLolsson : Ahhere: niceee, golden moments. Im at work right now, desk job :)
[2017-03-13 09:27:08] QuinnTrades : you're betting for it to go up and down at the same time
[2017-03-13 09:27:09] djkaltenudel : on okcoin you can do it
[2017-03-13 09:27:20] KyllingLolsson : QuinnTrades: yes u can!
[2017-03-13 09:27:38] QuinnTrades : not here, your orders merge
[2017-03-13 09:27:41] KyllingLolsson : on 2 different accounts :D
[2017-03-13 09:27:45] QuinnTrades : lol
[2017-03-13 09:27:46] QuinnTrades : sure
[2017-03-13 09:27:49] Ahhere : KyllingLolsson: "working" ;)
[2017-03-13 09:27:54] KyllingLolsson : :d
[2017-03-13 09:27:55] KyllingLolsson : :D
[2017-03-13 09:28:12] KyllingLolsson : i just watch the prie and wait
[2017-03-13 09:28:17] aron : quinntrades why dont they let us do this
[2017-03-13 09:29:16] Ahhere : ok fuck switched sides dash going up looks like
[2017-03-13 09:29:46] aron : if I had 2 laptops I would make soo much money buy shorting and longing simaltaneously
[2017-03-13 09:29:54] Ahhere : aron: lol wat
[2017-03-13 09:30:15] aron : Ahhere xbt is 1233.21 right now
[2017-03-13 09:30:22] aron : if i buy and sell at same time
[2017-03-13 09:30:34] aron : 1 contract each (sorry i meant long short)
[2017-03-13 09:30:58] aron : and when price goes up i sell my buy contract (position close)
[2017-03-13 09:31:15] aron : and when price goes down i buy my short contract (position close)
[2017-03-13 09:31:15] zaico : People, how do you hedge while taking profit from negative long funding? Whith shorts it easy: buy btc with fiat and short btc. But whit longs?
[2017-03-13 09:31:34] Ahhere : aron: http://www.investopedia.com/terms/w/whipsaw.asp likely to get whipsawed in crypto
[2017-03-13 09:31:36] aron : buy long and wait
[2017-03-13 09:32:05] zaico : aron: there is no hedge there. If it goes bullish you lose money
[2017-03-13 09:32:11] zaico : sorry
[2017-03-13 09:32:13] zaico : bearish
[2017-03-13 09:32:18] BarefootFlash : Long term position and short term position
[2017-03-13 09:32:33] aron : zaico it has been bullish trending
[2017-03-13 09:32:34] BarefootFlash : That's what I like to do, too
[2017-03-13 09:33:18] Ahhere : straddle trade I think its called