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[2015-11-19 03:26:47] zanza : anyone see SnackyCoins around?
[2015-11-19 03:26:50] laisee : geat idea
[2015-11-19 03:26:52] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : AudibleScience: Hahaha. I can program a lot of things but women are not included
[2015-11-19 03:27:07] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : zanza: I haven't
[2015-11-19 03:27:38] floopfloop : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: http://www.coolest-gadgets.com/wp-images/remote_03.jpg
[2015-11-19 03:27:46] AudibleScience : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: lol apparently women make better hedge fund managers than men!
[2015-11-19 03:27:51] zanza : nice
[2015-11-19 03:28:01] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : floopfloop: Yes plz :p
[2015-11-19 03:28:09] laisee : how to entice all 10 BTC female day traders into this lair?
[2015-11-19 03:28:20] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : AudibleScience: That makes sense to me considering all the gender stereotypes I can think of lol
[2015-11-19 03:29:20] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : There's one girl I can think of who moderates /r/BitcoinMarkets and that's it
[2015-11-19 03:29:40] laisee : actually, no. they are ok on buy-side funds but not as hedge raders IMHO.
[2015-11-19 03:30:04] floopfloop : laisee: They are great with kitchen related companies
[2015-11-19 03:30:25] AudibleScience : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: yeah... but there really may be something to it... here check this out: http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/d923da76-5d1d-11e5-9846-de406ccb37f2.html#axzz3ru8pp1uF
[2015-11-19 03:30:31] laisee : and presenting talk show
[2015-11-19 03:32:13] laisee : hmmm 3% of suvey ... and survivor bias make those results a bit iffy
[2015-11-19 03:32:41] AudibleScience : floopfloop: hey man! lol there is a button missing on that remote for us traders... it's the "to the moon" button... or at least a "profit" button should be included no? lol
[2015-11-19 03:33:42] floopfloop : AudibleScience: the profit button is the "off" button
[2015-11-19 03:33:57] laisee : and a button for "order champagne"
[2015-11-19 03:34:21] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : floopfloop: lol
[2015-11-19 03:35:54] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : AudibleScience: Thanks for the link. That makes sense to me. Do you know any stats on ratio of female traders in larger markets? Apart from it being less well known, I'd expect the tech aspect of bitcoin to result in a lower than average ratio.
[2015-11-19 03:37:29] floopfloop : is anyone else sensing a huge sell off?
[2015-11-19 03:38:15] floopfloop : ofc a big buy happen right as I say that lol
[2015-11-19 03:39:17] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : floopfloop: lol
[2015-11-19 03:39:19] zanza : grill :o
[2015-11-19 03:39:31] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : zanza: haha
[2015-11-19 03:39:51] floopfloop : a real grill?
[2015-11-19 03:40:05] zanza : :o
[2015-11-19 03:40:07] laisee : link above to ft.com shows females running hedge funds @ 3% of total funds
[2015-11-19 03:41:08] laisee : which is about level I have seen in wall st banks, hedge funds.
[2015-11-19 03:41:18] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : laisee: Ok interesting
[2015-11-19 03:41:43] AudibleScience : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: yeah... I would think so too... but we could have a go and see how it went... our CTRs and and conversion ratios would soon give us a clearer picture...
[2015-11-19 03:42:07] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : AudibleScience: You were serious about the website? How would that even work?
[2015-11-19 03:42:42] AudibleScience : how do you mean man?
[2015-11-19 03:43:09] AudibleScience : that's a pretty open question...
[2015-11-19 03:43:17] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : AudibleScience: How would a website convince more women to trade bitcoin?
[2015-11-19 03:43:24] floopfloop : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: Favorite meme of all time: http://funnyjunk.com/funny_pictures/150814/Disregard
[2015-11-19 03:43:39] laisee : perhaps a pink theme?
[2015-11-19 03:44:11] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : laisee: Brilliant... seriously?
[2015-11-19 03:44:36] laisee : Y not?
[2015-11-19 03:44:41] AudibleScience : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: Oh a marketing question! I understand now... well for starters... NOT by using pictures like that @floopfloop lol
[2015-11-19 03:44:57] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : AudibleScience: haha
[2015-11-19 03:45:55] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : laisee: Why not? Because that's gender stereotyping and if you're trying to convince women to participate in a typically male dominated profession it is an all around bad idea
[2015-11-19 03:46:24] floopfloop : I am https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNpQTpv-aQE
[2015-11-19 03:47:46] laisee : u mean they would feel like we were pandering to outdated stereotypes? damn ... they're 2 smart
[2015-11-19 03:48:08] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : laisee: Yes exactly. It would be demeaning
[2015-11-19 03:48:40] laisee : oh. guess I'm a dinosaur.
[2015-11-19 03:49:05] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : laisee: Didn't mean to crush your idea or anything man, just don't think it would be very effective
[2015-11-19 03:50:20] AudibleScience : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: I think if we could get an interview with a successful hedge fund manageress... it would be a very good start...
[2015-11-19 03:50:23] laisee : pastel shades maybe?
[2015-11-19 03:51:10] floopfloop : Black Jeopardy omg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWuJHbVZBQg
[2015-11-19 03:51:23] laisee : and "like"/"dislike" buttons instead of buy/sell
[2015-11-19 03:51:58] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : AudibleScience: That's a good idea. The article notes though that being better at risk management is one of the attributes that makes women better hedge fund managers. Leveraged bitcoin futures isn't exactly a low risk market
[2015-11-19 03:52:56] AudibleScience : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: no man... that all depends on the exposure...
[2015-11-19 03:53:16] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : AudibleScience: What do you mean?
[2015-11-19 03:53:23] AudibleScience : the risk I mean...
[2015-11-19 03:53:35] j8 : futures can be as useful for hedging your exposure as increasing it
[2015-11-19 03:53:53] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : I think it's the chances are slim to zero that any woman hedge fund manager would endorse bitcoin trading
[2015-11-19 03:54:01] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : j8: That's a good point. Hmmm
[2015-11-19 03:54:17] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : *I think the chances
[2015-11-19 03:54:28] floopfloop : omg this is great
[2015-11-19 03:55:26] laisee : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: > assuming ur serious - sucessful women in finance are usually tough as nails and have a very high quality BS detector. Even trying to maket them as a group would instantly make almost all reject your site IMHO.
[2015-11-19 03:55:48] floopfloop : laisee: Bitches?
[2015-11-19 03:56:26] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : laisee: That's a good point as well. Not really considering making such a site, but it's leading to some interesting conversation for sure
[2015-11-19 03:56:49] laisee : as much Bitches as they have to be, like the guys
[2015-11-19 03:57:51] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : floopfloop: You don't seriously think tough women who have the skills to run a successful business are bitches, right?
[2015-11-19 03:57:54] floopfloop : omg, black jeopardy, geeking out
[2015-11-19 03:59:46] floopfloop : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: well I guess it depends. Not all obv, but I am sure we all have that stereotypical image
[2015-11-19 03:59:57] AudibleScience : if no successful hedge fund manager was interested in doing an interview to simply "help more girls think about a career in finance"
[2015-11-19 03:59:58] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : floopfloop: Not really, but ok
[2015-11-19 04:01:12] AudibleScience : then we could just use a female trader we find to interview...
[2015-11-19 04:01:53] zanza : paging snacky
[2015-11-19 04:02:12] AudibleScience : the point is much more about giving girls a role model figure in the moment where they are about to make the decision about signing up to our funnel...
[2015-11-19 04:02:16] floopfloop : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImaYMoTi2g8
[2015-11-19 04:02:35] AudibleScience : *or not
[2015-11-19 04:04:14] zanza : dying
[2015-11-19 04:07:36] floopfloop : zanza: omg, geeking
[2015-11-19 04:09:54] AudibleScience : floopfloop: lol les tits now
[2015-11-19 04:10:04] podizzler3000 : just got off the phone with charlie brown, grief incoming
[2015-11-19 04:10:36] zanza : :)
[2015-11-19 04:15:37] zanza : does anyone have Snacky's email ?
[2015-11-19 04:17:45] AudibleScience : does anyone know if there's a driving factor behind such a flattish session again today? it's almost like China's on another holiday... but as far as I know there isn't one right now??
[2015-11-19 04:19:43] AudibleScience : But I have also been unusually busy recently so haven't been keeping up with much this last week because of that...
[2015-11-19 04:20:37] zanza : AudibleScience: I think everyone is scared
[2015-11-19 04:20:44] zanza : no one knows what the next "big mover" will do
[2015-11-19 04:20:58] floopfloop : zanza: i do
[2015-11-19 04:20:59] zanza : so they cling to safe spot 330's
[2015-11-19 04:21:30] zanza : Ill take Whore Ads for 500 @floopfloop
[2015-11-19 04:25:06] floopfloop : lol
[2015-11-19 04:26:18] AudibleScience : yeah and I'll take "le tits now" for 1000 @floopfloop
[2015-11-19 04:26:46] podizzler3000 : ok bitstamp, we get it. you have volume. now quit playing games
[2015-11-19 04:27:49] floopfloop : podizzler3000: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hZxoYC7I1c
[2015-11-19 04:27:54] AudibleScience : podizzler3000: wow I see what you mean man!
[2015-11-19 04:29:23] AudibleScience : maybe they have a no fee promo... atm
[2015-11-19 04:30:14] AudibleScience : encouraging traders just to trade the spread maybe?
[2015-11-19 04:30:26] podizzler3000 : bitstamp fees are the worst
[2015-11-19 04:30:55] podizzler3000 : its odd because this heavy volume no price movement thing happens a few times a day for the last week
[2015-11-19 04:31:02] podizzler3000 : then it just goes back to flatline
[2015-11-19 04:31:30] AudibleScience : do they have a fee credit in place for select high vol. traders maybe?
[2015-11-19 04:32:15] podizzler3000 : possibly, but i think its more likely just bitstamp administration doing a little fake volume action so that they can claim they are the #1 exchange
[2015-11-19 04:32:22] podizzler3000 : or at least hang in there with the china exchanges
[2015-11-19 04:33:34] laisee : its spot/cash exchange iirc - should be no need for them to do any kind of trading.
[2015-11-19 04:34:25] floopfloop : flash crash?
[2015-11-19 04:35:09] AudibleScience : oh well... I've got a minuscule short on atm so I'm going to set an alarm and watch some media in a few mins...
[2015-11-19 04:35:45] AudibleScience : is anyone watching "limitless"
[2015-11-19 04:35:58] podizzler3000 : i watched the pilot thought it was pretty good
[2015-11-19 04:35:58] AudibleScience : the tv show not the movie...
[2015-11-19 04:36:15] podizzler3000 : kinda waiting for the season to wrap up and see what people thought of it
[2015-11-19 04:37:49] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : floopfloop: Hahaha just watched that SNL skit. Brilliant
[2015-11-19 04:37:57] AudibleScience : podizzler3000: well I'm watching it as it comes out... and I really like it! I think it's a pretty cool concept
[2015-11-19 04:41:14] AudibleScience : oh cool! there's another episode of it now...
[2015-11-19 04:44:42] AudibleScience : good luck trading this flat line if you're trying to lads... I'm off to watch an ep of limitless...
[2015-11-19 04:49:45] zanza : where can you view limetless?
[2015-11-19 04:50:54] ethexio : Popcorn Time :(
[2015-11-19 04:51:13] ethexio : RIP
[2015-11-19 04:51:17] zanza : :/
[2015-11-19 04:51:48] ethexio : whoa wut, update available?
[2015-11-19 04:51:59] ethexio : Maybe not RIP
[2015-11-19 04:55:45] AudibleScience : zanza: oh hey... nearly didn't see your question.... here is a link to a site I use... but I have to warn you it's really really spammy! http://allmyvideos.net/embed-tlo4670ndxnr.html?popout=1&autostart=0
[2015-11-19 04:56:57] AudibleScience : N.B. that's a direct link to the latest episode on one of the mirrors on that site...
[2015-11-19 04:57:07] ethexio : POPCORN TIME IS BACK
[2015-11-19 04:57:28] ethexio : Suspicious though..
[2015-11-19 05:00:01] AudibleScience : zanza: here are the sources of the mirrors... both are SUPER SPAMMY sites though... http://episodes-tv.com/index.php and http://www.couchtuner.la/
[2015-11-19 05:13:20] zanza : wow wish Netflix picked that up
[2015-11-19 05:16:34] zanza : 24H is negative premium again
[2015-11-19 05:16:36] zanza : wonder why
[2015-11-19 05:22:40] floopfloop : zanza: because BTC is burning to the ground
[2015-11-19 05:22:59] zanza : :o
[2015-11-19 05:26:29] zanza : so is this the bottom then ?
[2015-11-19 05:26:45] floopfloop : I hope not
[2015-11-19 05:36:58] laisee : floop> u add a limit order to buy at 0.01?
[2015-11-19 05:41:11] zanza : lol
[2015-11-19 05:41:42] floopfloop : laisee: no?
[2015-11-19 05:41:53] floopfloop : I dont think you can do that
[2015-11-19 05:42:34] laisee : just did it for 0.00010 @ ETH
[2015-11-19 05:43:23] laisee : on XBT it would be 0.01.
[2015-11-19 05:50:41] ethexio : this sideways..
[2015-11-19 05:59:00] zanza : buy under 335, sell over 335
[2015-11-19 06:19:59] AudibleScience : back now... but what a dismal trading session eh
[2015-11-19 06:20:33] AudibleScience : I closed my position and only made 6.379
[2015-11-19 06:20:40] zanza : ...
[2015-11-19 06:21:07] miratrader : well I made 10.5 mXBT :-)
[2015-11-19 06:21:31] zanza : those 17's
[2015-11-19 06:21:33] zanza : adding up
[2015-11-19 06:21:47] miratrader : lol
[2015-11-19 06:21:55] zanza : 6 XBT is a nice day AudibleScience
[2015-11-19 06:22:01] AudibleScience : I mean £6.379 not 6.379 coins by the way! lol
[2015-11-19 06:22:29] zanza : lol
[2015-11-19 06:22:43] zanza : yeah, i was thinking u have to be max leverage
[2015-11-19 06:23:22] AudibleScience : yeah...
[2015-11-19 06:23:44] AudibleScience : like I said! Dismal!! rofl
[2015-11-19 06:24:21] AudibleScience : what a flat flat night again though... so savage I'm going to bed...
[2015-11-19 06:24:33] miratrader : any day when you didn't get liquidated is a good day :-)
[2015-11-19 06:26:55] zanza : haha mira
[2015-11-19 06:27:00] zanza : flashbacks to 2 weeks ago
[2015-11-19 06:27:27] zanza : miratrader: what bot software do you use?
[2015-11-19 06:28:57] miratrader : it's a proprietary trading system, custom software build from scratch
[2015-11-19 06:29:00] AudibleScience : miratrader: true, but my risk management has massively improved since I was liquidated out of a big position... not because of isolated margin
[2015-11-19 06:30:15] miratrader : yeah, risk management is important if you want to trade instead of just gambling
[2015-11-19 06:30:40] AudibleScience : miratrader: I was basically gambling before! lol not trading or investing or anything... just gambling basically!
[2015-11-19 06:31:19] AudibleScience : miratrader: haha... you said exactly what I was typing... as I was typing it lol
[2015-11-19 06:31:57] miratrader : yeah, that's how everyone starts I think, with gambling
[2015-11-19 06:32:07] zanza : miratrader: does it have GUI?
[2015-11-19 06:32:29] miratrader : people who continue to gamble go broke after a while
[2015-11-19 06:32:55] floopfloop : *raises hand*
[2015-11-19 06:33:28] floopfloop : Im short 25k contracts at 330.47, what do I do?
[2015-11-19 06:33:51] floopfloop : http://www.helpfeedthetroll.com/
[2015-11-19 06:34:31] zanza : what expiry floopfloop
[2015-11-19 06:34:47] floopfloop : zanza: march
[2015-11-19 06:35:18] miratrader : zanza: yes, dashboard-style GUI but it's not like trading desk software. it's designed for automated algorithmic trading, not manual trading
[2015-11-19 06:35:46] zanza : are you considering selling a license? i am looking for something
[2015-11-19 06:36:15] AudibleScience : floopfloop: hold on to it man!
[2015-11-19 06:36:29] floopfloop : AudibleScience: lol
[2015-11-19 06:36:31] zanza : and and snackycoin were going to develop something (well, talked about it) but he hasn't been on lately
[2015-11-19 06:37:07] floopfloop : Bitmex should open a casino
[2015-11-19 06:37:17] zanza : 100x leverage, it is already :)
[2015-11-19 06:37:18] floopfloop : that way we could have something to do when the market is boring
[2015-11-19 06:37:40] zanza : you could ride some small profits from 333-337
[2015-11-19 06:37:55] floopfloop : zanza: brb, going to nearest bridge
[2015-11-19 06:38:29] miratrader : I doubt we will ever sell the software. I talked to the guys about open-sourcing parts of it but they are not very keen on the idea.
[2015-11-19 06:38:38] AudibleScience : miratrader: I would also be interested in testing an algo. trading tool
[2015-11-19 06:39:16] miratrader : you can play with the demo version of something like NinjaTrader
[2015-11-19 06:39:51] zanza : floopfloop: you are short 25k march at 330?
[2015-11-19 06:39:59] miratrader : it doesn't do bitcoin though
[2015-11-19 06:40:10] zanza : you must of got that like in October?
[2015-11-19 06:40:14] floopfloop : zanza: http://www.helpfeedthetroll.com/
[2015-11-19 06:40:26] zanza : why do u keep linking that
[2015-11-19 06:40:47] floopfloop : #trolling
[2015-11-19 06:40:58] zanza : so you aren't short
[2015-11-19 06:41:15] floopfloop : zanza: only in the pants
[2015-11-19 06:41:27] zanza : is there an ignore feature for chat? bitmex_sam
[2015-11-19 06:41:33] floopfloop : hahahaha
[2015-11-19 06:41:45] floopfloop : zanza: It does say "trollbox"
[2015-11-19 06:41:50] miratrader : but you can import bitcoin tick data into NinjaTrader and play with it. write an algorithm and backtest it
[2015-11-19 06:41:51] zanza : user ignore
[2015-11-19 06:42:16] zanza : miratrader: i think me and snackycoins gunna make something new
[2015-11-19 06:42:23] zanza : i can do algorithms, but not coding
[2015-11-19 06:42:29] zanza : and he can code well
[2015-11-19 06:43:03] zanza : but I wish BitMEX would expand their own native interface a bit to add more complex features
[2015-11-19 06:43:22] zanza : that would bring in more traders I think, the python liquidbot is garbage
[2015-11-19 06:43:41] zanza : no offense to anyone
[2015-11-19 06:44:00] miratrader : Well it's a LOT of work if you want something decent. I would recommend starting with a framework like PyAlgoTrade
[2015-11-19 06:44:17] miratrader : just to get a feel for what's involved
[2015-11-19 06:44:33] zanza : have you seen snacky's site?
[2015-11-19 06:44:39] floopfloop : zanza: link?
[2015-11-19 06:44:41] miratrader : no, what's the site?
[2015-11-19 06:45:18] zanza : http://bitfx.info/
[2015-11-19 06:47:17] miratrader : it just shows the prices as far as I see?
[2015-11-19 06:47:25] AudibleScience : miratrader: are you a coder?
[2015-11-19 06:47:56] zanza : i think yes, he made his own trading bot that does the 17 orders
[2015-11-19 06:48:05] miratrader : yep, I'm the lead system developer
[2015-11-19 06:48:09] zanza : yeah miratrader pretty basic, no bitmex api stuff yet
[2015-11-19 06:49:03] zanza : is "miratrader" a company?
[2015-11-19 06:49:32] zanza : https://twitter.com/miratrader
[2015-11-19 06:49:54] floopfloop : zanza: dam the company is FINE
[2015-11-19 06:50:01] miratrader : not my twitter :-)
[2015-11-19 06:50:16] zanza : a grill!!
[2015-11-19 06:50:25] miratrader : I'm an old guy :-)
[2015-11-19 06:50:29] floopfloop : miratrader: are you a george foreman or a weber?
[2015-11-19 06:50:36] zanza : rofl
[2015-11-19 06:53:53] floopfloop : zanza: what a brokeass http://www.highrankdir.com/en/www/miratrader.com
[2015-11-19 06:54:15] zanza : :
[2015-11-19 06:54:34] floopfloop : you are worth nothing sir! lol
[2015-11-19 06:56:55] miratrader : miratrader is just my username here, it's not a company name or anything like that. I don't think I ever mentioned the company name :-)
[2015-11-19 06:57:30] floopfloop : miratrader: Brazzers?
[2015-11-19 06:58:04] miratrader : I'm not even going to google that :-)
[2015-11-19 06:58:16] AudibleScience : floopfloop: how old are you man?
[2015-11-19 06:58:33] floopfloop : AudibleScience: -7
[2015-11-19 06:58:45] zanza : he said in his 20's
[2015-11-19 06:58:57] floopfloop : zanza: mentally I am not though
[2015-11-19 06:59:13] floopfloop : he even said he isnt going to google that. Priceless
[2015-11-19 06:59:16] AudibleScience : floopfloop: I think you must be pretty young as you seem to watch a lot of porn! lol
[2015-11-19 06:59:18] miratrader : no zanza, I never said that. let just say I'm 3 times older than floopfloop :-0
[2015-11-19 06:59:30] podizzler3000 : floopfloop said 16 yesterday
[2015-11-19 06:59:41] miratrader : yeah, sounds about right :-)
[2015-11-19 06:59:41] podizzler3000 : anyway 6 straight days of sideways now
[2015-11-19 06:59:59] podizzler3000 : im looking at a november 2014 chart and it is remarkably similar to 15
[2015-11-19 07:00:11] floopfloop : AudibleScience: I know about porn. lol
[2015-11-19 07:00:47] podizzler3000 : take a look https://www.tradingview.com/x/zhXhLYw5/
[2015-11-19 07:01:00] floopfloop : AudibleScience: sometimes you just gotta make your keyboard sticky so you can invest in a new one, ya know?
[2015-11-19 07:01:33] zanza : i didn't know people over 60 goto chat rooms
[2015-11-19 07:01:53] podizzler3000 : i wonder if some company has a policy to just buy a bunch of btc every november
[2015-11-19 07:01:59] floopfloop : zanza: I didnt know they knew how to use the internet
[2015-11-19 07:01:59] podizzler3000 : maybe pantera holdings
[2015-11-19 07:02:12] zanza : wow this new notification sound
[2015-11-19 07:02:25] zanza : floopfloop:
[2015-11-19 07:03:17] floopfloop : zanza: ?
[2015-11-19 07:03:34] ethexio : eep
[2015-11-19 07:04:19] miratrader : I think floopfloop is 13-14 so that makes me about 3 times older than him
[2015-11-19 07:04:37] floopfloop : miratrader: well aren't you just a doll
[2015-11-19 07:06:56] miratrader : or maybe I'm 13-14 and floopfloop is over 50 and he's having fun with us :-)
[2015-11-19 07:07:38] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : If floopfloop were over 30 I'd be very concerned
[2015-11-19 07:07:48] zanza : lol
[2015-11-19 07:08:08] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Also if he were under 12
[2015-11-19 07:08:24] AudibleScience : podizzler3000: that's an interesting observation man...
[2015-11-19 07:08:49] floopfloop : miratrader: I think you are on to something
[2015-11-19 07:08:53] floopfloop : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: and LOL
[2015-11-19 07:08:54] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Yeah the similarity of those charts is amazing, at least the beginning part. The end is pretty different
[2015-11-19 07:10:32] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : If I were going to acquire a lot of bitcoin I'd do it in November so all of /r/BitcoinMarkets would freak out about it being "just like November 2013" and pump the price for me
[2015-11-19 07:12:32] miratrader : have to go guys, happy trading everyone!
[2015-11-19 07:12:57] zanza : ciao miratrader
[2015-11-19 07:13:07] AudibleScience : miratrader: take care man...
[2015-11-19 07:15:28] AudibleScience : I'm also off now... tack care everyone
[2015-11-19 07:15:53] AudibleScience : and good luck trading the flat!!
[2015-11-19 07:17:22] zanza : yall are leaving me alone here with floopfloop :/
[2015-11-19 07:17:29] zanza : he might attack me
[2015-11-19 07:17:51] floopfloop : zanza: with my sword *wink*
[2015-11-19 07:18:03] zanza : freak
[2015-11-19 07:18:38] floopfloop : This is what I was talking about obv http://fullhdpictures.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/HD-Sword-Pictures.jpg
[2015-11-19 07:20:50] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : floopfloop: It's interesting that you felt the need to clarify that you were talking about an actual sword
[2015-11-19 07:21:19] floopfloop : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: ;)
[2015-11-19 07:22:15] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : No comment
[2015-11-19 07:22:33] floopfloop : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHOBLTpcQV8
[2015-11-19 07:22:49] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : floopfloop: I don't click your links anymore
[2015-11-19 07:22:55] floopfloop : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: jajajaj
[2015-11-19 07:23:27] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Haha I'm out. Talk to you all later
[2015-11-19 07:23:33] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Or if my alarms go off
[2015-11-19 07:23:44] floopfloop : its about to go to 2100
[2015-11-19 07:27:00] zanza : 24H still negative
[2015-11-19 07:27:13] floopfloop : zanza: I just sold into it lol
[2015-11-19 07:27:32] floopfloop : zanza: rolling the dice a little but meh
[2015-11-19 07:27:34] zanza : the 500 ?
[2015-11-19 07:27:54] floopfloop : more than that
[2015-11-19 07:28:00] floopfloop : but yes
[2015-11-19 07:28:02] zanza : 2k
[2015-11-19 07:28:07] floopfloop : both
[2015-11-19 07:28:39] floopfloop : looking good so far
[2015-11-19 07:28:49] floopfloop : rolled some dice on Dec too
[2015-11-19 07:28:57] floopfloop : I think we will have a repeat xmas
[2015-11-19 07:29:20] floopfloop : if the market crashes Ill sell it back early though
[2015-11-19 07:31:17] floopfloop : crash baby crash
[2015-11-19 07:31:37] floopfloop : alrms going off lol
[2015-11-19 07:31:42] podizzler3000 : fakeout
[2015-11-19 07:31:54] rapidtrades : hey the calc only does longs....so for shorts I should just flip it around? + instead of - ?
[2015-11-19 07:32:16] floopfloop : yup
[2015-11-19 07:32:23] rapidtrades : ok tnx
[2015-11-19 07:32:25] floopfloop : or just look at what you lost
[2015-11-19 07:32:28] floopfloop : thats what i do
[2015-11-19 07:32:32] floopfloop : and its actually what you gained
[2015-11-19 07:32:43] rapidtrades : yeah that's what I meant
[2015-11-19 07:33:06] zanza : yes rapidtrades its linear so it works both ways
[2015-11-19 07:35:56] zanza : symmetrical actually is correct term
[2015-11-19 07:36:06] rapidtrades : and 1 contract is $1.5 worth of btc? or around that?
[2015-11-19 07:36:30] floopfloop : zanza: the calculator is bisexual, it goes both ways
[2015-11-19 07:37:02] rapidtrades : what's the closest to these $1, $10, $100 for one contract
[2015-11-19 07:37:05] zanza : Each contract is worth 0.00001 XBT per $1 price, currently 0.0033214 XBT rapidtrades
[2015-11-19 07:37:12] rapidtrades : oh come on....
[2015-11-19 07:37:28] rapidtrades : I don't do decimals....1,10 or 100
[2015-11-19 07:37:35] rapidtrades : bullpark it
[2015-11-19 07:37:42] podizzler3000 : ballpark
[2015-11-19 07:37:48] rapidtrades : or thaht
[2015-11-19 07:38:05] floopfloop : bullpark or bearpark?
[2015-11-19 07:38:11] rapidtrades : it's closest to $1 right?
[2015-11-19 07:38:24] podizzler3000 : ballpark doesnt make much sense either but thats the term
[2015-11-19 07:38:28] zanza : 0.0033215 Bitcoin equals 1.11 US Dollar
[2015-11-19 07:38:37] zanza : lazy rapidtrades
[2015-11-19 07:38:45] podizzler3000 : 1.11 wow ur a math genius
[2015-11-19 07:38:51] podizzler3000 : i tried asking siri
[2015-11-19 07:39:21] rapidtrades : I did the calc it's about $1.4 I was just looking for confirmation cos it seems low for 1 contarct
[2015-11-19 07:39:41] cataquil : support?
[2015-11-19 07:39:53] floopfloop : cataquil: i sold my short and bought longlol
[2015-11-19 07:40:10] cataquil : no is bitmex support here?
[2015-11-19 07:40:22] cataquil : just woke up and a positionwas closed.
[2015-11-19 07:40:28] floopfloop : which?
[2015-11-19 07:40:39] zanza : cataquil: use ticket
[2015-11-19 07:40:42] floopfloop : cataquil: 24h, or liquidated? check your history?
[2015-11-19 07:40:51] cataquil : xbt7d
[2015-11-19 07:41:14] floopfloop : history?
[2015-11-19 07:43:44] zanza : cataquil: you must have got liquidated, or had a lmit order setup
[2015-11-19 07:44:42] rapidtrades : dam liquidity is really low here...any of u does market making
[2015-11-19 07:45:14] zanza : define market making
[2015-11-19 07:45:34] zanza : if you want liquidity go for the 24H contract
[2015-11-19 07:46:14] zanza : but the past few days have been slow yeah
[2015-11-19 07:46:21] floopfloop : zanza: i stopped responding after they said they dont do decimals lol
[2015-11-19 07:46:29] zanza : rofl
[2015-11-19 07:46:42] zanza : even troll floopfloop wont reply
[2015-11-19 07:46:44] zanza : you know thats bad
[2015-11-19 07:46:45] floopfloop : zanza: http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/starpolar/images/6/6b/Notime.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20150225125846
[2015-11-19 07:47:38] rapidtrades : well aren't u two splendid fellas
[2015-11-19 07:48:06] zanza : there is 12.5k order on 24h now
[2015-11-19 07:48:22] zanza : thats like 43 Bitcoin
[2015-11-19 07:48:27] floopfloop : rapidtrades: my trading account is splendid, my personality is not
[2015-11-19 07:48:46] floopfloop : zanza: you see the buy order?
[2015-11-19 07:49:03] zanza : which one?
[2015-11-19 07:49:09] floopfloop : that one
[2015-11-19 07:49:25] zanza : lol 30k
[2015-11-19 07:49:30] floopfloop : jajajaja
[2015-11-19 07:49:41] zanza : thats 100 bitcoin
[2015-11-19 07:49:50] floopfloop : zanza: I was just messing with the market
[2015-11-19 07:49:59] zanza : rapidtrades: liquid is good on 4h
[2015-11-19 07:50:04] zanza : 24h
[2015-11-19 07:50:07] rapidtrades : what's the reason for the march contract at $430...it seems a hell of a lot of premium....I'm guessing there's something ovious I'm missing
[2015-11-19 07:50:16] rapidtrades : *obvious
[2015-11-19 07:50:26] zanza : 140 days off
[2015-11-19 07:50:31] podizzler3000 : its a hell of a long way away
[2015-11-19 07:50:35] floopfloop : rapidtrades: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHOBLTpcQV8
[2015-11-19 07:50:47] rapidtrades : I understand u get less bitcoin and price rallies but still seems a lot of premium
[2015-11-19 07:51:22] zanza : its low liquidity rapidtrades
[2015-11-19 07:51:43] floopfloop : low liq as well as being a pyramid scam
[2015-11-19 07:51:45] rapidtrades : any of u holding some mar25
[2015-11-19 07:51:55] zanza : a few
[2015-11-19 07:51:55] rapidtrades : floopfloop: what why
[2015-11-19 07:52:18] floopfloop : rapidtrades: im in on the scam so I cant say
[2015-11-19 07:52:43] rapidtrades : floopfloop: but look at the fair price as well its at $430
[2015-11-19 07:53:23] rapidtrades : so if u started shorting this until $330 u would be seriously in the red even if price goes down
[2015-11-19 07:54:00] floopfloop : rapidtrades: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gB8ewAdhY7Q
[2015-11-19 07:54:25] rapidtrades : floopfloop: hey im new here
[2015-11-19 07:54:28] podizzler3000 : congrats to arthur on making the list http://www.bitcoinfuturesguide.com/bitcoin-blog/the-10-bitcoin-traders-you-have-to-follow-on-twitter
[2015-11-19 07:54:44] floopfloop : rapidtrades: Yeah im just trolling the trollbox
[2015-11-19 07:55:50] floopfloop : podizzler3000: LORD ASHDRAKE ftw
[2015-11-19 07:55:51] zanza : 8. Lord Ashdrake Famous for getting rekt shorting the bull-run of late-2015, Ashdrake is a running joke in the bitcoin trading community. Constantly speaking against Bitcoin as a useful tool, he lets his personal bias interfere with trading rationally and lost most of his money shorting bitcoin at $300 before it broke $500.
[2015-11-19 07:55:58] cataquil : does anyone know can you get realtime P/L or do you have to wait until 12 noon UTC settlement
[2015-11-19 07:55:59] zanza : rofl
[2015-11-19 07:56:03] podizzler3000 : honestly that list is horrible
[2015-11-19 07:56:12] podizzler3000 : 8 out of 10 of those people are jokes
[2015-11-19 07:56:16] zanza : cataquil: what do you mean ?
[2015-11-19 07:56:42] podizzler3000 : i do like pipzie tho
[2015-11-19 07:57:00] floopfloop : Arthur is a beast though
[2015-11-19 07:57:08] rapidtrades : pipzie? isn't that the guy trolling btc-e
[2015-11-19 07:57:11] rapidtrades : and here
[2015-11-19 07:57:12] zanza : yeah hes very smart
[2015-11-19 07:57:28] rapidtrades : hey how come btc-e is not blocked while okcoin is
[2015-11-19 07:57:36] floopfloop : rekt
[2015-11-19 07:57:43] zanza : caus i dont think they do futures
[2015-11-19 07:57:50] rapidtrades : makes sense
[2015-11-19 07:58:06] floopfloop : im riding my trade out until close
[2015-11-19 07:58:08] floopfloop : screw it
[2015-11-19 07:58:21] zanza : whci trade
[2015-11-19 07:58:30] floopfloop : 331.84 long
[2015-11-19 07:59:03] zanza : you got a good entry
[2015-11-19 07:59:03] floopfloop : I cant lose much unless China says go fuck yourself
[2015-11-19 07:59:05] zanza : should do fine
[2015-11-19 07:59:13] floopfloop : zanza: thats what she said?
[2015-11-19 07:59:15] cataquil : if you click on balance at the top is only shows actual profilt oor loss of the trade at 12:00
[2015-11-19 07:59:19] cataquil : at settlement
[2015-11-19 07:59:21] rapidtrades : so as time goes on, this far price will go down toward spot right?
[2015-11-19 07:59:30] rapidtrades : it's kinda like a volatility premium
[2015-11-19 07:59:39] rapidtrades : fair price *
[2015-11-19 07:59:45] cataquil : I want to know how much this liquidation cost me
[2015-11-19 07:59:53] floopfloop : the buy is real
[2015-11-19 07:59:54] zanza : cataquil: profit is settled when you close the position, or settlement
[2015-11-19 08:00:03] zanza : or, on Friday's for long term ones
[2015-11-19 08:01:07] podizzler3000 : the 5cny pump is real!
[2015-11-19 08:01:14] podizzler3000 : floopfloop certified
[2015-11-19 08:01:26] floopfloop : podizzler3000: im too zoomed in
[2015-11-19 08:01:29] podizzler3000 : everyone switch to short it cant go any higher than this
[2015-11-19 08:01:34] zanza : should i call BearWhale friends?
[2015-11-19 08:02:06] floopfloop : ya
[2015-11-19 08:02:09] podizzler3000 : floopfloop dont worry i stare at 1m chart at work for fun i know how it is
[2015-11-19 08:02:22] cataquil : ok figures it out
[2015-11-19 08:02:41] podizzler3000 : okcoin app is great it scales the chart so a 5 cny move looks like a huge swing
[2015-11-19 08:03:48] cataquil : jez liquidated over a 0.0066 loss, well didn't mean to use 50x contract
[2015-11-19 08:03:56] cataquil : maybe I had isolate margin on
[2015-11-19 08:04:03] zanza : u need to uncheck isolate margin
[2015-11-19 08:04:18] zanza : yes, use cross
[2015-11-19 08:04:33] floopfloop : www.rekt.com
[2015-11-19 08:04:39] zanza : lol
[2015-11-19 08:04:41] rapidtrades : what is this annualized percentage rate...how is calculated? give me the layman version
[2015-11-19 08:05:09] floopfloop : rapidtrades: it is the percentage that is annualized annually.
[2015-11-19 08:05:13] zanza : there is documentation
[2015-11-19 08:05:29] rapidtrades : DO NOT link me to the formulas
[2015-11-19 08:05:42] floopfloop : rapidtrades: look at guides from the site
[2015-11-19 08:05:48] rapidtrades : NO
[2015-11-19 08:05:49] zanza : u trust a chatroom titled "trollbox" over website specs?
[2015-11-19 08:05:56] floopfloop : rapidtrades: then prepare to get trolled
[2015-11-19 08:06:34] HotDogs : Prepare to get liquidated
[2015-11-19 08:06:38] zanza : read through contract specs
[2015-11-19 08:06:39] floopfloop : HotDogs: ^ nice
[2015-11-19 08:06:39] rapidtrades : just give me the short version ffs...nvm u prolly can't explain it properly
[2015-11-19 08:06:47] floopfloop : rapidtrades: NO
[2015-11-19 08:06:54] rapidtrades : NO to you sir
[2015-11-19 08:06:54] floopfloop : rofl
[2015-11-19 08:07:00] zanza : oh god
[2015-11-19 08:07:14] floopfloop : http://www.wikihow.com/Be-a-Troll
[2015-11-19 08:07:34] zanza : ok, fair basis is expected future premium
[2015-11-19 08:07:48] rapidtrades : is it volatility based or what...
[2015-11-19 08:08:00] floopfloop : rapidtrades: it is unicorn based
[2015-11-19 08:08:14] rapidtrades : floopfloop: ur mom is unicord-based
[2015-11-19 08:08:20] zanza : oh shi**
[2015-11-19 08:08:21] BitMEX_Wally : rapidtrades: If the XBT24H future is trading at 1% above spot, and there are 24 hours left until expiry then that is 365% annualised.
[2015-11-19 08:08:25] floopfloop : it just got real
[2015-11-19 08:08:48] zanza : BitMEX_Wally: saves the day
[2015-11-19 08:09:00] zanza : listen to him rapidtrades
[2015-11-19 08:09:04] floopfloop : and we were having such a fine trolling session
[2015-11-19 08:09:23] BitMEX_Wally : floopfloop: Sorry to ruin your fun
[2015-11-19 08:09:28] floopfloop : BitMEX_Wally: all good hahaha
[2015-11-19 08:09:57] floopfloop : BitMEX_Wally: I usually answer if people are serious. When they refuse to do any reading with the hard work you guys have put into them, the trolling begins.
[2015-11-19 08:10:10] floopfloop : the guides that is
[2015-11-19 08:10:17] zanza : haha floopfloop acting serious
[2015-11-19 08:10:27] zanza : u troll 24/7 bro!
[2015-11-19 08:10:42] floopfloop : I actually don't, but most of the time, sure why not
[2015-11-19 08:10:50] zanza : hah
[2015-11-19 08:10:56] floopfloop : everytime someone says btc is going to the moon they are trolling too
[2015-11-19 08:11:12] floopfloop : crude oil to the moon!
[2015-11-19 08:15:42] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Wally: why is the ''fair price'' for mar25 set $100 dollars higher
[2015-11-19 08:17:10] zanza : caus floopfloop made it that way
[2015-11-19 08:17:39] zanza : not because its 140 days away
[2015-11-19 08:18:09] floopfloop : zanza: :)
[2015-11-19 08:18:15] rapidtrades : does the fair price follow the market price or do traders push the market price toward the fair price...im confused
[2015-11-19 08:18:41] zanza : i dont know that one
[2015-11-19 08:18:45] floopfloop : unicorns. Its all the unicorns
[2015-11-19 08:19:05] rapidtrades : floopfloop: aids, your mom has it
[2015-11-19 08:19:13] zanza : oh damn
[2015-11-19 08:19:37] floopfloop : He must have a hot mom
[2015-11-19 08:20:06] floopfloop : His subconscious is trying to defend his mom through his outward use of pathetic mom jokes.
[2015-11-19 08:20:45] floopfloop : its ok.... @rapidtrades https://konnikim.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/internet-hug.jpg
[2015-11-19 08:23:27] ethexio : oh damn, just realized I went short
[2015-11-19 08:24:11] ethexio : Eh, we'll see what happens when I wake up.
[2015-11-19 08:24:24] floopfloop : ethexio: price?
[2015-11-19 08:24:43] ethexio : 333.18
[2015-11-19 08:24:56] floopfloop : ouch
[2015-11-19 08:24:57] wurstgelee : no good
[2015-11-19 08:25:00] ethexio : was on mobile, a little tricky
[2015-11-19 08:25:07] ethexio : no good indeed
[2015-11-19 08:25:07] floopfloop : might want to just take a small loss on that
[2015-11-19 08:25:09] wurstgelee : i would consider closing tbh
[2015-11-19 08:25:13] wurstgelee : yep
[2015-11-19 08:25:13] floopfloop : ^
[2015-11-19 08:25:14] wurstgelee : ;)
[2015-11-19 08:25:54] zanza : ethexio: u the one who just obught up the order book :)
[2015-11-19 08:26:01] ethexio : no
[2015-11-19 08:26:39] wurstgelee : u might get an opportunity to close in the next few mins tho
[2015-11-19 08:27:32] floopfloop : i might actually short the book tbh
[2015-11-19 08:28:00] wurstgelee : gl
[2015-11-19 08:28:02] wurstgelee : ;)
[2015-11-19 08:28:04] BitMEX_Wally : rapidtrades: The fair price is adjusted to match the market
[2015-11-19 08:28:18] rapidtrades : tnx that makes sense
[2015-11-19 08:28:37] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Wally: how often is it adjusted
[2015-11-19 08:29:16] BitMEX_Wally : Depends how often it trades
[2015-11-19 08:29:33] rapidtrades : so after each trade or
[2015-11-19 08:33:57] ethexio : Gonna sleep in this short
[2015-11-19 08:34:24] ethexio : yolololo
[2015-11-19 08:34:35] ethexio : :(
[2015-11-19 08:35:22] rapidtrades : YOLO
[2015-11-19 08:40:51] BitMEX_Wally : rapidtrades: In general we adjust the fair price so it is inside the bid / ask
[2015-11-19 08:45:11] gigas : I apologize for asking a question I could probably search for, but could anyone tell me what fees BitMEX charges on futures contracts?
[2015-11-19 08:46:11] kendang : gigas: https://www.bitmex.com/app/fees
[2015-11-19 08:46:35] gigas : Thank you very much!
[2015-11-19 09:42:55] floopfloop : I need to stop making late night trades lol
[2015-11-19 09:49:19] wurstgelee : longed @ 335? ;)