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<< >> English 中文 Русский 한국어 日本語 Español Français [2017-03-12 21:11:17] Farzad : otherwise, it is just hype [2017-03-12 21:12:06] Farzad : aron: what was the trigger ? [2017-03-12 21:12:08] MikeHunt : hype can money thou [2017-03-12 21:12:14] aron : what does trigger mean [2017-03-12 21:12:37] aron : i didnt set trigger [2017-03-12 21:12:57] Farzad : aron: If u didnt set it, it should have been "Last" I guess [2017-03-12 21:13:05] aron : yes it was last [2017-03-12 21:13:31] aron : oh and i just got a mail from bitmex saying that they have confirmed by deposit [2017-03-12 21:13:44] aron : how have i been trading if they didnt confirm it till now O.o [2017-03-12 21:15:44] ubba : was it a legit email? [2017-03-12 21:16:18] QuinnTrades : dash going up again, what a legend [2017-03-12 21:16:26] QuinnTrades : the little crypto that could [2017-03-12 21:17:38] aron : my bad [2017-03-12 21:18:19] aron : no wait [2017-03-12 21:18:58] aron : first i got mail from them few days ago saying your deposit has been confirmed and credit [2017-03-12 21:19:13] aron : today i get mail saying i can now start trading as it has been confirmed [2017-03-12 21:19:20] aron : but i only made one deposit [2017-03-12 21:19:25] aron : why 2 confirmations? [2017-03-12 21:19:46] aron : seperated by more than 24 hours [2017-03-12 21:19:57] aron : ubba it was legit [2017-03-12 21:20:13] ripcord : cool story [2017-03-12 21:20:31] QuinnTrades : sending btc takes forever [2017-03-12 21:20:47] QuinnTrades : one was saying it was on its way, second was that it arrived properly [2017-03-12 21:20:50] MikeHunt : one of the reasons for civil war soon [2017-03-12 21:20:52] aron : what is the interest rate I can get on my btc? [2017-03-12 21:21:12] cryptoyolo : -25% on my short [2017-03-12 21:21:12] MikeHunt : aron: look at funding rate under swap [2017-03-12 21:21:15] cryptoyolo : ooo boy [2017-03-12 21:21:21] MikeHunt : cryptoyolo: lvg ? [2017-03-12 21:21:29] cryptoyolo : 10x [2017-03-12 21:21:36] MikeHunt : cryptoyolo: you gonna let it run? [2017-03-12 21:21:36] cryptoyolo : small ammount also [2017-03-12 21:21:37] aron : MikeHunt what do u mean [2017-03-12 21:21:59] MikeHunt : aron: there are no interest rates here, just funding rate [2017-03-12 21:22:07] cryptoyolo : MikeHunt: nah... waiting for a 10-15 drop to get out [2017-03-12 21:22:11] aron : yes but im talking in general [2017-03-12 21:22:15] aron : in any website [2017-03-12 21:22:21] aron : not this one [2017-03-12 21:22:52] aron : can anyone tell me what XBT means? [2017-03-12 21:22:56] stf28 : /sentiment [2017-03-12 21:23:05] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 61.11 / 38.89 Daily : 44.19 / 55.81 Weekly : 50.75 / 49.25 Monthly : 50.23 / 49.77``` [2017-03-12 21:23:05] ripcord : interest paid on any site isn't worth the risk of holding it there [2017-03-12 21:23:08] bingbongfly : aron: bitcoin [2017-03-12 21:23:21] aron : ripcord whats the risk [2017-03-12 21:23:29] aron : they cant steal my money [2017-03-12 21:23:42] bingbongfly : aron: lol they can haha [2017-03-12 21:23:42] ripcord : lol [2017-03-12 21:23:48] MikeHunt : lol [2017-03-12 21:23:49] aron : i mean the risk is same as bitmex stealing it [2017-03-12 21:23:56] MikeHunt : aron: not really [2017-03-12 21:23:59] ripcord : yes, exactly [2017-03-12 21:23:59] aron : why cant bitmex steal your money? [2017-03-12 21:24:04] QuinnTrades : it can [2017-03-12 21:24:09] aron : and other sites can? [2017-03-12 21:24:11] QuinnTrades : it's just not in their best interest [2017-03-12 21:24:12] shiroe : /price [2017-03-12 21:24:15] ripcord : any of these sites can steal your money or get hacked [2017-03-12 21:24:20] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1220.20 (22.02%) Bitfinex : 1221.40 (22.14%) The Woodchipper : 1225.87 (22.59%) itBit : 1228.32 (22.83%) Kraken : 1217.01 (21.70%) GDAX : 1237.40 (23.74%) SLQ : ``` [2017-03-12 21:24:21] MikeHunt : aron: they could but its not a binary decision, counter-party risk varies from exchange to exchange [2017-03-12 21:24:23] aron : yeah see [2017-03-12 21:24:50] aron : wait so why is it riskier for interest rates [2017-03-12 21:24:55] MikeHunt : aron: what makes bitmex particularly good is the owners are publicly known and withdrawals are done manually [2017-03-12 21:24:59] aron : I doubt coinbase will steal my money [2017-03-12 21:25:07] MikeHunt : aron: IRS might get them liquidated [2017-03-12 21:25:10] zy : /wall [2017-03-12 21:25:13] trollbot : ``` ±$10 Bid|Ask liq : () $835K (0.00%) | $1881K (0.00%) ``` [2017-03-12 21:25:24] MikeHunt : aron: generally u make money from trading, not interest [2017-03-12 21:25:27] ripcord : coinbase is pretty safe, but they don't pay interest [2017-03-12 21:25:44] aron : my friend told me he gets interest from them [2017-03-12 21:26:02] aron : are u sure coinbase dont give interet? [2017-03-12 21:26:02] MikeHunt : aron: your friends an idiot then [2017-03-12 21:26:21] MikeHunt : aron: do you want to trade or are you lazy and want to rely on interest? [2017-03-12 21:26:37] QuinnTrades : You make money by holding and waiting for the price to go up or by trading [2017-03-12 21:26:50] aron : i dont understand how i should trade here [2017-03-12 21:27:09] ubba : coinbase has internet? [2017-03-12 21:27:26] aron : http://venturebeat.com/2014/07/02/coinbase-adds-vaults-the-savings-account-for-your-bitcoin/ [2017-03-12 21:27:51] Gr33d : /sentiment [2017-03-12 21:27:52] aron : MikeHunt are you buying or selling btcs [2017-03-12 21:27:54] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 65.45 / 34.55 Daily : 44.21 / 55.79 Weekly : 50.76 / 49.24 Monthly : 50.26 / 49.74``` [2017-03-12 21:28:23] cryptoyolo : damn whales, can u please just dump this shit [2017-03-12 21:28:38] cryptoyolo : fear is in the air... gotta take advantage [2017-03-12 21:28:45] ripcord : aron: just save your money man...you have no chance [2017-03-12 21:29:00] aron : i dont have any chance in trading? [2017-03-12 21:29:02] -_- : lol LTC/BTC dump [2017-03-12 21:29:06] ripcord : correct [2017-03-12 21:29:06] -_- : someone giving up [2017-03-12 21:29:10] MikeHunt : aron: i buy and sell based on TA + other stuff, if you dont know how to trade i suggest learning before loosing your money here [2017-03-12 21:29:13] aron : ripcord why do u think that [2017-03-12 21:29:34] stf28 : not sure that learning prevent from losing money [2017-03-12 21:29:53] aron : MikeHunt Im starting small with like 20-30 dollars [2017-03-12 21:30:02] aron : when I get good I'll increase it to 1000 [2017-03-12 21:30:03] ripcord : you can't even figure out interest [2017-03-12 21:30:14] MikeHunt : stf28: ofc ourse, i'd also suggest only keeping a small amount here until he's profitable [2017-03-12 21:30:54] MikeHunt : aron: put $100 here, put rest somewhere else to avoid temptation, then go learn to trade inc. risk and money management [2017-03-12 21:31:10] MikeHunt : aron: on tpb there is a FX series by ed ponsi [2017-03-12 21:31:11] aron : MikeHunt can you go to your bitcoin XBT tab and tell me what do you see in the middle [2017-03-12 21:31:19] aron : i see 1223.32 [2017-03-12 21:31:25] MikeHunt : aron: yeh [2017-03-12 21:31:32] MikeHunt : thats correct [2017-03-12 21:31:40] aron : MikeHunt, I know the basics I just dont understand this site [2017-03-12 21:31:57] MikeHunt : /guide [2017-03-12 21:31:57] trollbot : ``` Dear newcomer Please watch this video to get started with BitMex: ``` https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSh2bM3UP04 ``` Also make sure to read the docs: ``` https://www.bitmex.com/app/tradingOverview ``` Remember to trade small with low leverage until you understand how things work, otherwise you will get liquidated (REKT) pretty soon :boom: ``` [2017-03-12 21:32:00] MikeHunt : ^ do that [2017-03-12 21:32:06] aron : ok thanks [2017-03-12 21:33:17] aron : the market price is 1235 [2017-03-12 21:33:23] aron : why does this show 1223 [2017-03-12 21:33:38] ripcord : aron: sorry to be so harsh...20+ years trading experience...trading is the hardest thing you will do (at least to be profitable) [2017-03-12 21:34:00] QuinnTrades : /price [2017-03-12 21:34:03] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1219.99 (-0.02%) Bitfinex : 1221.80 (0.03%) The Woodchipper : 1227.24 (0.11%) itBit : 1227.54 (-0.06%) Kraken : 1217.02 (0.00%) GDAX : 1237.49 (0.01%) SLQ : 9 mins``` [2017-03-12 21:34:12] ubba : also i have 3 months trading experience i agree with that guy [2017-03-12 21:34:12] Farzad : aron: here it is 1223 ;) [2017-03-12 21:34:21] QuinnTrades : 1219 on stampy [2017-03-12 21:34:23] aron : ripcord what if im just doing it based on what i think will happen to the price [2017-03-12 21:34:30] aron : i think it will increase by tomorrow [2017-03-12 21:34:35] aron : than what it is right now [2017-03-12 21:34:43] MikeHunt : aron: based on what? TA? [2017-03-12 21:34:47] QuinnTrades : then you buy(long) right now [2017-03-12 21:34:52] QuinnTrades : and sell tomorrow [2017-03-12 21:35:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `DASH7D`: sell 14 @ 0.059475 [2017-03-12 21:35:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `DASH7D`: sell 1 @ 0.059993 [2017-03-12 21:35:09] aron : MikeHunt today's average was 1203 [2017-03-12 21:35:18] aron : and Market Price is 1237 right now [2017-03-12 21:35:24] aron : so it should go down a bit today [2017-03-12 21:35:41] aron : especially since avg was 1180 yesterday [2017-03-12 21:35:46] ripcord : aron: it's all odds...your goal is to create a system where you have an edge...you won't win every trade, you can only increase your odds and need to accept losses as part of your strategy [2017-03-12 21:35:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `DASH7D`: sell 8 @ 0.059065 [2017-03-12 21:36:13] MikeHunt : aron: i recommend watching risk management video if u havent already [2017-03-12 21:36:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `DASH7D`: sell 2 @ 0.058890 [2017-03-12 21:37:47] aron : if I buy 1 usd worth of bitcoin right now at entry price 1225.11 and price starts to decrease, what price will my position be liquidated at? [2017-03-12 21:37:54] ripcord : aron: this is about forex, but much of it applies to BTC trading as well: http://www.babypips.com/school [2017-03-12 21:38:11] ripcord : it's the very basics of trading [2017-03-12 21:38:47] MikeHunt : aron: tells u in confirmation box [2017-03-12 21:38:54] MikeHunt : u can also click calc symbol to calc it [2017-03-12 21:40:09] aron : MikeHunt the price of btc is 1224 right now, do you agree that the price will reach 1340 by the end of the year [2017-03-12 21:40:32] aron : I think it will thats why im buying it right now [2017-03-12 21:41:29] ThruTheFloor : aron: For long term trading like that you shouldn't be usingleverage. Go use another exchange. [2017-03-12 21:42:07] shiroe : /sentiment [2017-03-12 21:42:11] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 63.21 / 36.80 Daily : 43.04 / 56.96 Weekly : 50.75 / 49.25 Monthly : 50.27 / 49.73``` [2017-03-12 21:42:11] aron : so this platform is only for day trading? [2017-03-12 21:42:42] Apocalyptic : aron: no [2017-03-12 21:43:07] QuinnTrades : it's good for go big or go home type orders [2017-03-12 21:43:19] heheh lo : QuinnTrades: x100 yolo [2017-03-12 21:43:20] aron : can u give an example [2017-03-12 21:43:30] ThruTheFloor : aron: ETF [2017-03-12 21:43:47] aron : i meant an example of a go big go home trade [2017-03-12 21:43:53] QuinnTrades : If I had 10 btc, I could buy right now with an order the size of 1000 btc [2017-03-12 21:44:03] QuinnTrades : if price went up 10% [2017-03-12 21:44:04] ThruTheFloor : aron: ETF [2017-03-12 21:44:12] aron : but why would this site allow you to do that [2017-03-12 21:44:13] QuinnTrades : I'd make 100 btc [2017-03-12 21:44:17] aron : you only have 10 btc [2017-03-12 21:44:25] QuinnTrades : that's the point [2017-03-12 21:44:26] aron : how can u buy size of 1000 btc [2017-03-12 21:44:34] QuinnTrades : leverage [2017-03-12 21:44:35] zy : 100x [2017-03-12 21:44:36] cryptoyolo : have 10 btc [2017-03-12 21:44:40] cryptoyolo : leverage 100x [2017-03-12 21:44:42] heheh lo : lol just go to investopedia and learn from there, leverage [2017-03-12 21:44:45] Apocalyptic : leverage, it's a thing [2017-03-12 21:44:47] Parlangua : basically if the loss goes over that 10btc you get rekt [2017-03-12 21:44:47] heheh lo : and margin trading [2017-03-12 21:44:48] aron : oh ok [2017-03-12 21:44:57] herpinator : aron: bare in mind a 1% move in the wrong direction and 100x gets margin called [2017-03-12 21:45:05] QuinnTrades : yeah, if it goes down a tiny little bit, you lose everything [2017-03-12 21:45:07] zy : No offense, but this is probably not the ideal place for you [2017-03-12 21:45:18] QuinnTrades : that's the going home part [2017-03-12 21:45:22] aron : Quinntrade at what point would u lose everything [2017-03-12 21:45:23] Apocalyptic : zy: I'm sure he has great potential [2017-03-12 21:45:31] cryptoyolo : 100x its not recommended for crypto [2017-03-12 21:46:01] cryptoyolo : 25x its too much already imo [2017-03-12 21:46:13] zy : 10x is too much [2017-03-12 21:46:29] heheh lo : aron: usually most of the people do 10x~25x for scalping, long term wise go lower [2017-03-12 21:46:32] aron : i get it, if price went down 1% you would lose everything [2017-03-12 21:46:42] aron : because 1% of 1000 is 10 [2017-03-12 21:46:44] QuinnTrades : Who is selling 150 dash at 0.058, it's worth 10% more than that [2017-03-12 21:46:47] QuinnTrades : people are crazy [2017-03-12 21:46:48] aron : and 10 was your original position [2017-03-12 21:46:57] heheh lo : QuinnTrades: bots [2017-03-12 21:47:02] QuinnTrades : bots are retarded [2017-03-12 21:47:09] QuinnTrades : aron: yes [2017-03-12 21:48:22] aron : QuinnTrades whats your positon on XBT [2017-03-12 21:48:48] QuinnTrades : I'm waiting for something to happen first [2017-03-12 21:49:14] QuinnTrades : I can't safely put any bets rn [2017-03-12 21:49:47] aron : Quinntrades the market price of XBT is 1226 right now, is there some way I can buy it and ensure that the computer sells it when price reaches 1230? [2017-03-12 21:49:56] KyllingLolsson : /sentiment [2017-03-12 21:49:56] QuinnTrades : limit order [2017-03-12 21:50:01] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 58.48 / 41.52 Daily : 42.77 / 57.23 Weekly : 50.75 / 49.25 Monthly : 50.27 / 49.74``` [2017-03-12 21:50:21] QuinnTrades : you buy market price right now, then place a limit order undoing it at the price you want [2017-03-12 21:50:43] QuinnTrades : so buy now, then place sell limit order at 1230 [2017-03-12 21:50:48] aron : you mean stop limit right [2017-03-12 21:50:55] QuinnTrades : yeah [2017-03-12 21:50:58] QuinnTrades : wait no [2017-03-12 21:51:00] QuinnTrades : limit [2017-03-12 21:51:15] aron : oh so i short it [2017-03-12 21:51:19] aron : at 1230 [2017-03-12 21:51:22] QuinnTrades : yes [2017-03-12 21:51:34] aron : but i have a bit of a qualm [2017-03-12 21:51:49] aron : for example the problem is that if i buy at 1225 [2017-03-12 21:52:09] aron : and the price goes down to 301 it will liquidate me [2017-03-12 21:52:14] aron : but i dont want to liquidate [2017-03-12 21:52:23] Parlangua : lol [2017-03-12 21:52:28] ross : /price [2017-03-12 21:52:32] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1222.00 (0.16%) Bitfinex : 1223.00 (0.10%) The Woodchipper : 1227.41 (0.01%) itBit : 1229.57 (0.17%) Kraken : 1220.00 (0.24%) GDAX : 1238.00 (0.04%) SLQ : 18 mins``` [2017-03-12 21:52:35] aron : i only want to liquidate if price reaches 0 which i ddont think will happen [2017-03-12 21:52:50] Apocalyptic : 301 is as likely in the short term [2017-03-12 21:52:52] Dynamix : I just need 1 good swing man common :D [2017-03-12 21:52:53] QuinnTrades : then don't use leverage [2017-03-12 21:53:02] aron : im not using leverage [2017-03-12 21:53:04] Dynamix : lol [2017-03-12 21:53:10] herpinator : hahahhaa [2017-03-12 21:53:11] aron : i put it at cross [2017-03-12 21:53:16] aron : not even 1x [2017-03-12 21:53:17] Dynamix : no leverage you must be crazy lol [2017-03-12 21:53:17] Apocalyptic : QuinnTrades: using 1x will still have a non-zero liq [2017-03-12 21:53:23] Dynamix : no point or must have a lot of money [2017-03-12 21:53:25] Apocalyptic : it's an inverse contract [2017-03-12 21:53:36] Apocalyptic : going long there is no way to have a 0 liq price [2017-03-12 21:53:42] Dynamix : 5x LVG is the lowest [2017-03-12 21:53:45] Dynamix : I'll ever go with lol [2017-03-12 21:53:46] QuinnTrades : fair enough [2017-03-12 21:53:49] aron : oh ok [2017-03-12 21:53:52] Parlangua : aron, you can get an app on your phone for price alarms if you're worried [2017-03-12 21:53:55] dorsens : oh wow there's even trollbox here [2017-03-12 21:54:06] BitMEX_Sam : Boilr works for BitMEX prices. [2017-03-12 21:54:08] dorsens : negative fees for market makers + trollbox [2017-03-12 21:54:10] dorsens : I'm in love [2017-03-12 21:54:14] aron : i think i got the hang of this [2017-03-12 21:54:15] Dynamix : dorsens: Yeah took me like 2 weeks to use it lol [2017-03-12 21:54:16] BitMEX_Sam : dorsens: Welcome [2017-03-12 21:54:28] QuinnTrades : you can set up a buy order super low if you want but I don't think it's hitting 300 tonight [2017-03-12 21:54:29] QuinnTrades : idk tho [2017-03-12 21:54:38] aron : QuinnTrades why dont you buy it at 1225 right now and sell all at 1227? [2017-03-12 21:54:42] aron : you make progit [2017-03-12 21:54:46] aron : profit* [2017-03-12 21:55:00] QuinnTrades : cos I'm not sure it'll hit 1227 [2017-03-12 21:55:02] aron : surely the price will reach 1227 today [2017-03-12 21:55:13] QuinnTrades : I'm not sure of anything right now so I wait [2017-03-12 21:55:23] QuinnTrades : but you can totally do that [2017-03-12 21:55:25] Ugly_Old_Goat : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrKU0Ymta-U&t=1957s [2017-03-12 21:55:31] aron : ok fine ill give another example [2017-03-12 21:55:56] aron : its at 1226.18 right now why dont u buy it and sell all at 1226.28 [2017-03-12 21:56:18] cryptoyolo : aron: there are transaction fees in operations. [2017-03-12 21:56:29] QuinnTrades : What he said [2017-03-12 21:56:33] aron : ohh [2017-03-12 21:56:34] aron : i see [2017-03-12 21:56:37] QuinnTrades : you want at least a couple $$ [2017-03-12 21:56:49] aron : where can i see fees [2017-03-12 21:57:07] aron : cause i see cost as 0 [2017-03-12 21:57:25] aron : im doing dollar trades maybe thats wy? [2017-03-12 21:57:47] aron : price has reached 1227.08 [2017-03-12 21:59:01] Doom : aron start with low prices before u learn things not good idea to start with high [2017-03-12 21:59:12] -_- : nice someone dumped DASH here way lower [2017-03-12 21:59:13] aron : Doom im doing dollar trades [2017-03-12 21:59:17] aron : how is this high [2017-03-12 21:59:52] QuinnTrades : -_-: ikr, crazy shit [2017-03-12 22:00:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTH17`: buy 450 @ 1233.63 [2017-03-12 22:00:40] aron : QuinnTrades what fees do we pay [2017-03-12 22:00:49] aron : because it is showing me 0 fees [2017-03-12 22:01:35] QuinnTrades : 0.0750% taker fee? I think [2017-03-12 22:01:43] QuinnTrades : idk exactly [2017-03-12 22:01:59] aron : shouldnt that come under cost? [2017-03-12 22:02:09] aron : 0.075% off my profits right? [2017-03-12 22:02:39] zy : dump or pump when asia wakes up? what do we think? [2017-03-12 22:02:40] Apocalyptic : stamp pump [2017-03-12 22:02:47] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 21000 @ 1230.60 [2017-03-12 22:02:47] QuinnTrades : https://www.bitmex.com/app/fees [2017-03-12 22:03:12] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 5038 @ 1231.80 [2017-03-12 22:04:15] Dynamix : upp [2017-03-12 22:04:19] aron : QuinnTrades if i leverage 1 dollar for 10x and buy at 1232 and price reaches 1233 i make 10 dollars right? [2017-03-12 22:05:12] ripcord : no [2017-03-12 22:06:06] ross : you need 1btc in value of contracts to make $10 [2017-03-12 22:06:36] zy : 10x？ [2017-03-12 22:06:40] shiroe : going 1300! [2017-03-12 22:06:56] ripcord : you'd make less than a penny on that trade, not including fees [2017-03-12 22:07:36] -_- : DASH ATH [2017-03-12 22:07:41] rasdasd : dash 10% behind polo wtf [2017-03-12 22:07:46] aron : oh yeah now i understand [2017-03-12 22:08:38] ross : aron: use the calculator beside Place order [2017-03-12 22:08:41] ross : its helpful [2017-03-12 22:09:03] zy : /sentiment [2017-03-12 22:09:06] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 48.66 / 51.34 Daily : 43.01 / 56.99 Weekly : 50.75 / 49.25 Monthly : 50.24 / 49.76``` [2017-03-12 22:10:03] aron : the calculator says if i buy 1 usd at 1232 and sell at 1236 with leverage of 10 then i get 3.24% ROE [2017-03-12 22:10:21] aron : it sounds wrong [2017-03-12 22:10:48] zy : that's right [2017-03-12 22:10:54] aron : oh ok [2017-03-12 22:10:56] zy : 3.24% of 1 usd [2017-03-12 22:11:23] aron : and when would my position be liquidated? [2017-03-12 22:11:30] hmmmYea : this is why we need a DASH perp swap [2017-03-12 22:11:31] ross : who wants to clear the btc sell wall? [2017-03-12 22:11:47] zy : My bet is on china and japan [2017-03-12 22:11:47] ripcord : aron: don't trade [2017-03-12 22:11:56] aron : ripcord it takes time to learn [2017-03-12 22:12:15] bingbongfly : buy dash, wait till settlement, easy money [2017-03-12 22:12:26] aron : ripcord i have no other way of making money online [2017-03-12 22:12:41] ripcord : that's irrelevant [2017-03-12 22:12:42] herpinator : aron do you have skype or discord or something? [2017-03-12 22:12:49] MikeHunt : looks like stamps going up [2017-03-12 22:12:49] aron : why? [2017-03-12 22:13:00] herpinator : then I can show you some things [2017-03-12 22:13:20] aron : yeah i have skype [2017-03-12 22:13:20] ross : so polo goes up on dahs [2017-03-12 22:13:23] ross : dash* [2017-03-12 22:13:26] ross : but bitmex goes down [2017-03-12 22:13:34] herpinator : send your skype address to 59959a@gmail.com [2017-03-12 22:13:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `DASH7D`: sell 5 @ 0.057848 [2017-03-12 22:14:19] zy : 5 long... [2017-03-12 22:14:31] bingbongfly : price at polo 0.0654.. wtf [2017-03-12 22:14:38] bingbongfly : people on mex too scared [2017-03-12 22:15:07] hmmmYea : bingbongfly: to live the dream, you have to be the dream [2017-03-12 22:15:24] aron : sent [2017-03-12 22:16:18] herpinator : aron: ok well I will be in touch soon I am about to sleep [2017-03-12 22:16:26] aron : ok [2017-03-12 22:16:46] ripcord : bingbongfly: this is a futures contract...obviously people don't think this price will hold [2017-03-12 22:18:09] thxforyourbtc! : obviously the price wont last lol [2017-03-12 22:18:15] Tetsuo : bingbongfly: some in here is shorting hard, that´s why the price is lower [2017-03-12 22:18:23] Tetsuo : wonder where his liq is [2017-03-12 22:18:30] Tetsuo : or maybe it´s the pumper on polo [2017-03-12 22:18:41] hmmmYea : last time people said that about DASH it was break .03 [2017-03-12 22:18:55] hmmmYea : breaking* [2017-03-12 22:19:16] Tetsuo : we had a devoted zcash shorted who was responsible for a sginificant discount for a while, then he got rekt for ~400 BTC [2017-03-12 22:19:19] hmmmYea : seems unlikely the DASH bubble will burst in the next 6 days [2017-03-12 22:19:20] Tetsuo : *r [2017-03-12 22:19:25] Tetsuo : trollboxer was his name [2017-03-12 22:19:28] Tetsuo : may he rest in peace [2017-03-12 22:19:36] Tetsuo : hmmmYea: lol [2017-03-12 22:19:44] memes : idk could burst in the next 6 hours [2017-03-12 22:19:51] memes : whenever it starts toppling [2017-03-12 22:19:54] memes : its gonna topple [2017-03-12 22:20:20] Apocalyptic : rip trollboxer [2017-03-12 22:20:30] hmmmYea : memes: well yeah. may go up 10x before that happens [2017-03-12 22:20:30] Apocalyptic : didn't he win an award at least or something ? [2017-03-12 22:20:53] Tetsuo : Apocalyptic: yes [2017-03-12 22:20:53] aron : guys I want to leverage 100x 1 usd at entry price 1232 and sell all at 1233 [2017-03-12 22:20:59] aron : what can be a problem with this? [2017-03-12 22:21:03] Tetsuo : fees [2017-03-12 22:21:10] Tetsuo : bigger than your profit [2017-03-12 22:21:11] aron : im getting 8% ROE [2017-03-12 22:21:55] ross : you can make 8% easier by shorting xmr right now [2017-03-12 22:21:58] ripcord : no guarantee that you'll be able to sell at 1233...what if it goes down? What's your plan? [2017-03-12 22:22:05] aron : then i lose a dollar [2017-03-12 22:22:25] ripcord : true [2017-03-12 22:22:40] MikeHunt : aron: 100 reduces cost, not multiply contracts [2017-03-12 22:22:46] Apocalyptic : 8% upside for a 100% downside [2017-03-12 22:22:48] ripcord : then you need like 10 wins to recover your loss [2017-03-12 22:22:57] Apocalyptic : that's some solid risk/reward [2017-03-12 22:23:10] aron : do i lose when it goes down a dollar? [2017-03-12 22:23:31] aron : or just 10 cents [2017-03-12 22:23:45] Dynamix : MAR 31 gonna go to shiiiit [2017-03-12 22:23:55] heheh lo : xmr is so hot to touch right now, probably will go .014 in no time [2017-03-12 22:23:57] aron : if i lose when it goes down 10 cents then its a really bad plan [2017-03-12 22:24:03] MikeHunt : aron: if you use leverage it reduces cost but increases chance of liquidation [2017-03-12 22:24:18] aron : reduces cost of transaction fees or what [2017-03-12 22:24:42] MikeHunt : aron: 100 contracts @ x100 costs the same as 1 contract @ x1 [2017-03-12 22:24:54] aron : oh ok [2017-03-12 22:25:03] MikeHunt : aron: but at x100 you loose 100 contracts per dollar it drops [2017-03-12 22:25:18] amirmass : DUMPPPP [2017-03-12 22:25:40] -_- : what coin amirmass [2017-03-12 22:26:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `DASH7D`: sell 90 @ 0.056904 [2017-03-12 22:27:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `DASH7D`: sell 8 @ 0.056812 [2017-03-12 22:27:12] bingbongfly : ops there goes dash [2017-03-12 22:27:33] aron : i put entry price as 1232 and exit as 1233 but ROE is 0.96% [2017-03-12 22:27:37] aron : this is because of fees right [2017-03-12 22:27:56] kurkudu : no mercy on dash [2017-03-12 22:27:58] amirmass : BITCOIN DUMP [2017-03-12 22:28:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `DASH7D`: sell 52 @ 0.056658 [2017-03-12 22:28:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `DASH7D`: sell 230 @ 0.056309 [2017-03-12 22:28:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `DASH7D`: sell 2 @ 0.056274 [2017-03-12 22:28:22] aron : i meant entry at 1232 and exit at 1244.32 [2017-03-12 22:28:23] amirmass : 1223 [2017-03-12 22:28:28] amirmass : now [2017-03-12 22:28:31] amirmass : on stamp [2017-03-12 22:28:48] MikeHunt : amirmass: buy wall suggests otherwise [2017-03-12 22:29:03] amirmass : MikeHunt: where is the buywall [2017-03-12 22:29:22] MikeHunt : amirmass: how did u get 1223 figure? [2017-03-12 22:29:29] buttcoin : h&s on the 15m chart [2017-03-12 22:29:34] amirmass : no, i said its 1223 on stamp [2017-03-12 22:29:37] buttcoin : maybe little dump [2017-03-12 22:29:59] amirmass : going below 1220 soon [2017-03-12 22:30:10] aron : MikeHunt if i buy 10 usd at 1232 and sell at 1244.32 with leverage of 10x [2017-03-12 22:30:17] aron : when will i liquidate? [2017-03-12 22:30:50] amirmass : why swap price so high [2017-03-12 22:30:52] amirmass : dump that shit [2017-03-12 22:30:54] amirmass : with stamp [2017-03-12 22:31:04] Gr33d : /sentiment [2017-03-12 22:31:08] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 58.41 / 41.60 Daily : 43.46 / 56.54 Weekly : 50.77 / 49.23 Monthly : 50.25 / 49.75``` [2017-03-12 22:31:55] Gr33d : insider info [2017-03-12 22:33:29] MikeHunt : aron: use liquidation calculator [2017-03-12 22:34:04] aron : MikeHunt I did, it shows liquidation at 1123-1124 [2017-03-12 22:34:14] aron : no matter how much i increase my quantity [2017-03-12 22:35:12] amirmass : DUMPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP BTC [2017-03-12 22:35:42] zy : /wall [2017-03-12 22:35:45] trollbot : ``` ±$10 Bid|Ask liq : (1 hour, 10 mins) $914K (-14.80%) | $1602K (9.52%) ``` [2017-03-12 22:35:52] MikeHunt : aron: leverage affects lquidation price [2017-03-12 22:35:56] zy : /sentiment [2017-03-12 22:35:58] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 57.25 / 42.75 Daily : 43.48 / 56.52 Weekly : 50.76 / 49.24 Monthly : 50.26 / 49.74``` [2017-03-12 22:36:16] aron : oh [2017-03-12 22:37:53] mariomarco : bitmex dash market is broken [2017-03-12 22:37:55] mariomarco : dash goes up [2017-03-12 22:37:59] mariomarco : dash7d goes down [2017-03-12 22:38:00] mariomarco : lol [2017-03-12 22:38:29] QuinnTrades : yep it just fucked me lol [2017-03-12 22:38:39] mariomarco : i mean wtf lol [2017-03-12 22:38:42] QuinnTrades : cost me 0.100 btc [2017-03-12 22:39:03] QuinnTrades : on a 20dash long at 0.062 [2017-03-12 22:39:05] amirmass : WHY THE PRICE OF XBT so hig [2017-03-12 22:39:06] QuinnTrades : like wtf [2017-03-12 22:39:06] mariomarco : i shorted it, real dash goes up, bitmex drops, i get profit :S [2017-03-12 22:39:08] mariomarco : hahaha [2017-03-12 22:39:09] amirmass : wtf is wrong with u ppl [2017-03-12 22:39:20] QuinnTrades : mariomarco: genius [2017-03-12 22:39:31] mariomarco : QuinnTrades: i should have be liquidated [2017-03-12 22:39:42] 10 : hehe all my positions on the order book [2017-03-12 22:39:53] QuinnTrades : I got a -180% ROE for no reason [2017-03-12 22:39:55] QuinnTrades : bullshit [2017-03-12 22:40:07] mariomarco : QuinnTrades: yeah man, it makes 0 sense [2017-03-12 22:40:20] QuinnTrades : I'm not going near that shit lmao [2017-03-12 22:41:17] MikeHunt : QuinnTrades: how much lvg? [2017-03-12 22:41:38] QuinnTrades : MikeHunt: 5% [2017-03-12 22:41:45] QuinnTrades : 5x [2017-03-12 22:41:46] QuinnTrades : * [2017-03-12 22:41:46] -_- : long DASH and hold till 0.1 [2017-03-12 22:41:48] Dynamix : QuinnTrades: lol how tf ? [2017-03-12 22:41:50] ross : real dash goes up, bitmex doesnt move. real dash goes down, bitmex goes down [2017-03-12 22:41:56] -_- : eventually DASH shorters get rekt [2017-03-12 22:42:04] MikeHunt : QuinnTrades: long or short? [2017-03-12 22:42:06] -_- : really dumping at 0.056 [2017-03-12 22:42:15] 10 : -_-: cuz derivatives [2017-03-12 22:42:36] Dynamix : myhh didnt keep short [2017-03-12 22:43:13] QuinnTrades : long at 0.062, had to close at 0.055622 [2017-03-12 22:43:22] QuinnTrades : I got utterly FUCKED [2017-03-12 22:43:26] QuinnTrades : lol [2017-03-12 22:43:26] aron : i did 100x leverage of 1 usd and bought at 1230.21 seconds ago [2017-03-12 22:43:36] aron : its now 1230.92 [2017-03-12 22:43:46] aron : but my contract disappeared [2017-03-12 22:43:54] aron : and my balance went down [2017-03-12 22:43:59] Gr33d : Lol/ [2017-03-12 22:44:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `DASH7D`: buy 5 @ 0.057539 [2017-03-12 22:44:05] -_- : bitmex altcoin market maker sucks now [2017-03-12 22:44:11] aron : but the market price didnt go to 1221 [2017-03-12 22:44:16] aron : the liquidation price [2017-03-12 22:44:19] aron : what happened [2017-03-12 22:44:22] MikeHunt : QuinnTrades: did you avg up or down at all? [2017-03-12 22:44:23] 10 : aron: do you do limit orders [2017-03-12 22:44:27] Dynamix : /price [2017-03-12 22:44:31] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1230.70 (0.71%) Bitfinex : 1223.80 (0.07%) The Woodchipper : 1232.11 (0.38%) itBit : 1232.19 (0.21%) Kraken : 1222.00 (0.16%) GDAX : 1239.89 (0.15%) SLQ : 52 mins``` [2017-03-12 22:44:47] aron : 10 yes [2017-03-12 22:44:52] aron : it was limited at 1221 [2017-03-12 22:45:00] MikeHunt : aron: limit orders arent guaranteed [2017-03-12 22:45:06] 10 : aron: do you have post only selected [2017-03-12 22:45:06] ripcord : aron: told you not to trade [2017-03-12 22:45:25] aron : ripcord its only 1 usd [2017-03-12 22:45:40] aron : and i dont know whats happening now another thing magically appeared [2017-03-12 22:45:41] ripcord : that's how it starts [2017-03-12 22:46:01] QuinnTrades : MikeHunt: I just closed it, didnt mess with anything else [2017-03-12 22:46:01] herpinator : aron: aron no 100x leverage! MAX 10x for you and that is absolute max don't learn this the hard way learn the easy way and play it safe [2017-03-12 22:46:02] ripcord : next week you'll be blowing dudes in alleyways for BTC [2017-03-12 22:46:02] ross : SPECIAL ANOUNCMENT [2017-03-12 22:46:06] ross : dash is moving [2017-03-12 22:46:21] MikeHunt : QuinnTrades: RoE uses mark price iirc, its not very accurate [2017-03-12 22:46:34] stf28 : why so scared? he says he plays 1 dollar [2017-03-12 22:47:00] aron : herpinator im not doing this to make money right now, , im just trying to see what happens [2017-03-12 22:47:04] MikeHunt : play with expendable amounts is fine [2017-03-12 22:47:10] MikeHunt : but he needs to focus on training [2017-03-12 22:47:14] MikeHunt : or he's just wasting time [2017-03-12 22:47:22] MikeHunt : and $1 [2017-03-12 22:47:23] MikeHunt : 's [2017-03-12 22:47:25] aron : This is my second day of trading [2017-03-12 22:47:37] MikeHunt : aron: have u done any trading videos/reading? [2017-03-12 22:47:38] QuinnTrades : MikeHunt: yeah but the orderbook was looking very bad too, liquid was at 0.055 iirc and it was going down, last was 0.056 [2017-03-12 22:47:49] 10 : aron: if you ate trading at 100x you are only trading 1 penny [2017-03-12 22:47:51] aron : first day i didnt understand anything [2017-03-12 22:47:56] MikeHunt : QuinnTrades: yeh always cut loosing trades [2017-03-12 22:48:25] QuinnTrades : MikeHunt: just cant believe it was a losing trade, it would hhave been amazing anywhere else lmao [2017-03-12 22:48:59] aron : 10 i went on calculator and it said that if i do 100x with 1 usd and price goes up a dollar i make 8% [2017-03-12 22:49:15] aron : and they said liquidation at 1221 and its at 1230 right now [2017-03-12 22:49:33] 10 : aron: how may contracts are you trading? [2017-03-12 22:49:39] aron : 1 [2017-03-12 22:49:51] Dynamix : bearish ;) [2017-03-12 22:50:22] MikeHunt : i made $2 profit [2017-03-12 22:50:26] 10 : aron: then you are trading $0.01 [2017-03-12 22:50:27] MikeHunt : scalping a little to close [2017-03-12 22:50:36] Dynamix : thats a lot :)) [2017-03-12 22:50:45] aron : 10 but 8% of 1$ is not one penny [2017-03-12 22:50:52] aron : its 8 pennies [2017-03-12 22:51:16] Dynamix : Where are cheaper fees ? [2017-03-12 22:51:20] Dynamix : here its too much lol [2017-03-12 22:51:34] MikeHunt : aron: you get 8% of what u put in [2017-03-12 22:51:41] 10 : aron: 1 contract = $1 0.01 x 100 = $1 [2017-03-12 22:51:44] aron : yes that means 8 pennies [2017-03-12 22:51:54] MikeHunt : aron: you get 8% of $1 [2017-03-12 22:52:07] aron : 8% of 1 usd = 8 pennies [2017-03-12 22:52:12] Dynamix : myh [2017-03-12 22:52:18] Dynamix : of 100$ its 20$ [2017-03-12 22:52:21] Dynamix : quiet a lot fuck that [2017-03-12 22:52:23] MikeHunt : aron: leverage reduces the cost of trading, it doesnt multiply gains [2017-03-12 22:52:47] aron : so youre saying i dont get 8 pennies if i predict right? [2017-03-12 22:53:00] MikeHunt : aron: you get 8 pennies per dollar it goes up [2017-03-12 22:53:11] aron : by one dollar [2017-03-12 22:53:12] aron : right [2017-03-12 22:53:30] aron : i get 8 pennies if it goes up by one dollar