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<< >> English 中文 Русский 한국어 日本語 Español Français [2017-03-12 20:34:47] -_- : safe to short [2017-03-12 20:34:57] QuinnTrades : 100x [2017-03-12 20:35:09] donkey : all in [2017-03-12 20:35:13] QuinnTrades : yep [2017-03-12 20:35:16] QuinnTrades : here we go [2017-03-12 20:35:19] zy : Go big or go home [2017-03-12 20:35:19] QuinnTrades : down to 800 [2017-03-12 20:35:23] zy : Go go go [2017-03-12 20:37:09] Ahhere : U guise r crazy [2017-03-12 20:37:38] QuinnTrades : OR ARE WE [2017-03-12 20:37:44] Doom : yea 800 in ur dreams u wish [2017-03-12 20:37:44] Ahhere : Lol [2017-03-12 20:37:50] zy : nah, just trolls [2017-03-12 20:38:09] QuinnTrades : Totally serious dude, yolo all ins are how people make money [2017-03-12 20:38:13] QuinnTrades : pretty sure [2017-03-12 20:38:27] Ahhere : Hmmm sounds legit [2017-03-12 20:38:40] Parlangua : he didn't say which people [2017-03-12 20:38:46] Ahhere : Let me drink my pint and decide then [2017-03-12 20:38:50] QuinnTrades : ;) [2017-03-12 20:39:07] Ahhere : Parlangua: poor ppl [2017-03-12 20:39:17] Ahhere : Poor ppl make me sad [2017-03-12 20:39:24] QuinnTrades : :( [2017-03-12 20:39:36] QuinnTrades : relatively speaking? [2017-03-12 20:39:39] Ahhere : Lol [2017-03-12 20:39:48] QuinnTrades : if you mean relatively then you can just yolo all in and be happy [2017-03-12 20:40:46] Ahhere : When you get richer by 1btc it feels good. When u get poorer by 1btc it feels worse than the opposite of the good. [2017-03-12 20:41:00] zy : I did actually dream about cheap coins the other day, lol [2017-03-12 20:41:36] QuinnTrades : negativity > positivity [2017-03-12 20:41:37] Ahhere : Jesus someone dreamt they partied with the winkleskins earlier [2017-03-12 20:42:42] MikeHunt : chins and japs wake up soon [2017-03-12 20:42:47] MikeHunt : pumps get turned on usually [2017-03-12 20:42:53] ross : Ahhere: i didnt dream it, it happened [2017-03-12 20:43:17] Ahhere : The greatest trader ever made billions and went from ok to super happy. Lost it all and then kills himself .. Jesse Livermore Google that sad mofo [2017-03-12 20:43:41] ross : how do u lose billions trading [2017-03-12 20:43:45] ross : did he go all in? [2017-03-12 20:45:21] ross : what computer did he have [2017-03-12 20:46:38] QuinnTrades : Did he have long or short eyebrows? [2017-03-12 20:47:24] ross : /sentiment [2017-03-12 20:47:30] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 55.30 / 44.70 Daily : 45.56 / 54.44 Weekly : 50.75 / 49.25 Monthly : 50.17 / 49.83``` [2017-03-12 20:47:43] aron : If I buy 1 USD (so 1@1225.69) and the bitcoin price rises by 1% tomorrow and then I sell it, how much do I make? [2017-03-12 20:47:57] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 14 @ 1225.80 [2017-03-12 20:48:00] ross : is that a joke ^ [2017-03-12 20:48:12] QuinnTrades : is that a question about fees? [2017-03-12 20:48:24] aron : thats not a question about fees [2017-03-12 20:48:26] aron : im new [2017-03-12 20:48:33] aron : do i make 1%? [2017-03-12 20:48:36] ross : aron: theres a calculator you can use [2017-03-12 20:48:40] ross : yes 1% [2017-03-12 20:48:43] ross : - fees [2017-03-12 20:48:47] ross : minus fees [2017-03-12 20:48:51] tb : aron you make 1 cent [2017-03-12 20:48:55] tb : in btc [2017-03-12 20:49:05] aron : ok thanks [2017-03-12 20:49:15] Farzad : /rekt [2017-03-12 20:49:15] trollbot : ``` 3 recent REKTs > 100K: ``` [2017-03-12 20:49:18] bingbongfly : anyone have a dash masternode? thinking bout getting oen [2017-03-12 20:49:21] Farzad : no new rekts ? [2017-03-12 20:49:23] bingbongfly : would be nice [2017-03-12 20:49:26] Farzad : come on ! [2017-03-12 20:49:27] ross : Farzad: nope [2017-03-12 20:49:30] QuinnTrades : give it a min [2017-03-12 20:49:31] ross : Farzad: few under 10k [2017-03-12 20:49:44] zy : the $1 trades, lol [2017-03-12 20:49:47] QuinnTrades : wtf [2017-03-12 20:50:04] ross : ive made some nice trades today, been long since 1177 [2017-03-12 20:50:12] QuinnTrades : whats the point of those trades [2017-03-12 20:50:53] bingbongfly : QuinnTrades: $1 bitcoin buy once gave a full btc ;) [2017-03-12 20:51:08] Farzad : /rekt [2017-03-12 20:51:08] QuinnTrades : well .. yeah [2017-03-12 20:51:09] ripcord : QuinnTrades: someone's crappy bot [2017-03-12 20:51:42] Farzad : /rekt [2017-03-12 20:51:42] trollbot : ``` 3 recent REKTs > 100K: ``` ``` 24 hours, 37 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 233932 @ 1166.68 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire: ``` ``` 35 hours, 54 mins ago: Liquidated short on `XBTH17`: buy 235337 @ 1196.58 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire: ``` ``` 46 hours, 39 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBCH17`: sell 235620 @ 7605.8 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire: ``` [2017-03-12 20:51:51] QuinnTrades : much better [2017-03-12 20:51:51] Farzad : I removed 24 hours limit [2017-03-12 20:51:55] QuinnTrades : haha [2017-03-12 20:51:59] QuinnTrades : nice [2017-03-12 20:52:02] Farzad : @micmix here ? [2017-03-12 20:53:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 11 @ 1222.35 [2017-03-12 20:54:33] Farzad : liquated by 11 contracts ? [2017-03-12 20:54:39] Farzad : how is this shit possible ? [2017-03-12 20:54:48] Farzad : 0.000000000001 balance ? [2017-03-12 20:54:52] Parlangua : :o [2017-03-12 20:54:57] QuinnTrades : probably got rekt once [2017-03-12 20:55:01] QuinnTrades : so went all in with nothing [2017-03-12 20:55:05] QuinnTrades : then got rekt again [2017-03-12 20:55:07] QuinnTrades : and repeated [2017-03-12 20:55:11] ross : lul [2017-03-12 20:55:13] ripcord : ^ [2017-03-12 20:55:16] QuinnTrades : repeat 4 or 5 times until that happens [2017-03-12 20:55:37] ross : that will be rapidtrades when bitcoin hits 1500 [2017-03-12 20:55:41] QuinnTrades : lol [2017-03-12 20:55:42] aron : guys is there a website where I can convert BTC to USD for no fees? [2017-03-12 20:55:44] Farzad : lol [2017-03-12 20:55:48] Farzad : how is rapid doing ? [2017-03-12 20:55:54] -_- : anyone buy XMR or DASH dip [2017-03-12 20:55:57] Farzad : ETF declined and BTC near ATH [2017-03-12 20:56:08] ripcord : why would anyone covert for no fees? [2017-03-12 20:56:09] QuinnTrades : he made some off the deline I think [2017-03-12 20:56:22] REKT : Liquidated short on `DASH7D`: buy 79 @ 0.060270 [2017-03-12 20:56:32] Farzad : damn DASH [2017-03-12 20:56:34] ross : he told me he couldnt sell off much in the decline as every exchange was lagging out [2017-03-12 20:56:36] Farzad : why is it pumping ? [2017-03-12 20:56:57] -_- : XMR just went up 10% [2017-03-12 20:56:57] bingbongfly : holy dash [2017-03-12 20:56:59] QuinnTrades : why does dash do anything [2017-03-12 20:57:03] ross : jesus bitcoin [2017-03-12 20:57:04] Farzad : is DASH good for longterm hodl ? [2017-03-12 20:57:09] bingbongfly : Farzad: yes [2017-03-12 20:57:12] ross : bearstamp [2017-03-12 20:57:13] bingbongfly : get a masternode [2017-03-12 20:57:20] bingbongfly : and you will earn dash [2017-03-12 20:57:29] QuinnTrades : how much is a masternode [2017-03-12 20:57:34] bingbongfly : dash at a discount here still [2017-03-12 20:57:58] ross : stamp 1214 [2017-03-12 20:58:08] Actualiteit : ah, bearstamp is back. [2017-03-12 20:58:18] zy : If you are a whale, how would you dump a ton of coins? [2017-03-12 20:58:49] Actualiteit : zy: depends on what effect you want to have on the market [2017-03-12 20:58:52] ross : zy: dump on an exchnage or find a buyer [2017-03-12 20:59:00] Dnavid : /sentiment [2017-03-12 20:59:03] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 60.18 / 39.82 Daily : 45.48 / 54.52 Weekly : 50.76 / 49.24 Monthly : 50.17 / 49.83``` [2017-03-12 20:59:05] ross : sell at market [2017-03-12 20:59:05] Farzad : It will retrace eventually [2017-03-12 20:59:11] Farzad : nothing goes up straight forever [2017-03-12 20:59:17] KyllingLolsson : Holy crap. I just had the realisation of not taking decitions out of fear mostly leads to better outcomes.shit be spiritual. [2017-03-12 21:00:06] aron : what price should i buy at? [2017-03-12 21:00:18] QuinnTrades : now prob [2017-03-12 21:00:24] -_- : buy the dip meow [2017-03-12 21:01:06] Dnavid : my short btc gets rekt at 1,300, I think there's no way it goes over that before it goes under a bit IMO. Am I being foolish? [2017-03-12 21:01:19] QuinnTrades : whats it at [2017-03-12 21:01:20] ross : Dnavid: you're probably right [2017-03-12 21:01:33] ross : Dnavid: i see 1250 next before drop [2017-03-12 21:01:50] Actualiteit : +1 [2017-03-12 21:01:53] Dnavid : 1222 [2017-03-12 21:02:10] bingbongfly : 0.1 next stop dash [2017-03-12 21:02:16] QuinnTrades : I would have closed tbh [2017-03-12 21:03:00] Dnavid : holding until under 1000, week+ [2017-03-12 21:03:03] QuinnTrades : how's dash on here? [2017-03-12 21:03:32] Farzad : bingbongfly: if it increases like that, it will crash hard. [2017-03-12 21:04:11] Dnavid : thx ross, QuinnTrades [2017-03-12 21:04:33] QuinnTrades : Dnavid: Might never happen but good luck [2017-03-12 21:04:56] -_- : DASH almost ATH [2017-03-12 21:05:09] -_- : still cheap here [2017-03-12 21:05:26] -_- : missed out on 0.055 then buy at 0.062 and hold for 0.1 [2017-03-12 21:05:28] BTCDJS : Farzad: dash after crash will be a good long term hold [2017-03-12 21:05:45] QuinnTrades : Wtf lol dash at 7% lower on here than other exchanges [2017-03-12 21:06:04] bingbongfly : dash new ATH! [2017-03-12 21:06:33] -_- : QuinnTrades: people scared of buying DASH here then watching it crash [2017-03-12 21:06:47] BTCDJS : I had a shit load of dash. But I sold it ages ago ? [2017-03-12 21:07:12] QuinnTrades : -_-: bit strange but ok [2017-03-12 21:07:42] bingbongfly : BTCDJS: never sell crypto [2017-03-12 21:07:44] bingbongfly : only buy [2017-03-12 21:08:09] BTCDJS : Not to worry. ETH will be worth 0.13 by the end of 2017 [2017-03-12 21:08:27] BTCDJS : bingbongfly: crypto is mostly shit [2017-03-12 21:08:48] BTCDJS : only a hand full are worth long term hold [2017-03-12 21:09:06] bingbongfly : BTCDJS: expensive shit ;) [2017-03-12 21:10:58] aron : i put a buy order of 1224.24 and the market price reached like 1223, why didnt the system buy it for me? [2017-03-12 21:11:12] Farzad : there should be fundamental reasons for a crypto to be worth hodling [2017-03-12 21:11:17] Farzad : otherwise, it is just hype [2017-03-12 21:12:06] Farzad : aron: what was the trigger ? [2017-03-12 21:12:08] MikeHunt : hype can money thou [2017-03-12 21:12:14] aron : what does trigger mean [2017-03-12 21:12:37] aron : i didnt set trigger [2017-03-12 21:12:57] Farzad : aron: If u didnt set it, it should have been "Last" I guess [2017-03-12 21:13:05] aron : yes it was last [2017-03-12 21:13:31] aron : oh and i just got a mail from bitmex saying that they have confirmed by deposit [2017-03-12 21:13:44] aron : how have i been trading if they didnt confirm it till now O.o [2017-03-12 21:15:44] ubba : was it a legit email? [2017-03-12 21:16:18] QuinnTrades : dash going up again, what a legend [2017-03-12 21:16:26] QuinnTrades : the little crypto that could [2017-03-12 21:17:38] aron : my bad [2017-03-12 21:18:19] aron : no wait [2017-03-12 21:18:58] aron : first i got mail from them few days ago saying your deposit has been confirmed and credit [2017-03-12 21:19:13] aron : today i get mail saying i can now start trading as it has been confirmed [2017-03-12 21:19:20] aron : but i only made one deposit [2017-03-12 21:19:25] aron : why 2 confirmations? [2017-03-12 21:19:46] aron : seperated by more than 24 hours [2017-03-12 21:19:57] aron : ubba it was legit [2017-03-12 21:20:13] ripcord : cool story [2017-03-12 21:20:31] QuinnTrades : sending btc takes forever [2017-03-12 21:20:47] QuinnTrades : one was saying it was on its way, second was that it arrived properly [2017-03-12 21:20:50] MikeHunt : one of the reasons for civil war soon [2017-03-12 21:20:52] aron : what is the interest rate I can get on my btc? [2017-03-12 21:21:12] cryptoyolo : -25% on my short [2017-03-12 21:21:12] MikeHunt : aron: look at funding rate under swap [2017-03-12 21:21:15] cryptoyolo : ooo boy [2017-03-12 21:21:21] MikeHunt : cryptoyolo: lvg ? [2017-03-12 21:21:29] cryptoyolo : 10x [2017-03-12 21:21:36] MikeHunt : cryptoyolo: you gonna let it run? [2017-03-12 21:21:36] cryptoyolo : small ammount also [2017-03-12 21:21:37] aron : MikeHunt what do u mean [2017-03-12 21:21:59] MikeHunt : aron: there are no interest rates here, just funding rate [2017-03-12 21:22:07] cryptoyolo : MikeHunt: nah... waiting for a 10-15 drop to get out [2017-03-12 21:22:11] aron : yes but im talking in general [2017-03-12 21:22:15] aron : in any website [2017-03-12 21:22:21] aron : not this one [2017-03-12 21:22:52] aron : can anyone tell me what XBT means? [2017-03-12 21:22:56] stf28 : /sentiment [2017-03-12 21:23:05] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 61.11 / 38.89 Daily : 44.19 / 55.81 Weekly : 50.75 / 49.25 Monthly : 50.23 / 49.77``` [2017-03-12 21:23:05] ripcord : interest paid on any site isn't worth the risk of holding it there [2017-03-12 21:23:08] bingbongfly : aron: bitcoin [2017-03-12 21:23:21] aron : ripcord whats the risk [2017-03-12 21:23:29] aron : they cant steal my money [2017-03-12 21:23:42] bingbongfly : aron: lol they can haha [2017-03-12 21:23:42] ripcord : lol [2017-03-12 21:23:48] MikeHunt : lol [2017-03-12 21:23:49] aron : i mean the risk is same as bitmex stealing it [2017-03-12 21:23:56] MikeHunt : aron: not really [2017-03-12 21:23:59] ripcord : yes, exactly [2017-03-12 21:23:59] aron : why cant bitmex steal your money? [2017-03-12 21:24:04] QuinnTrades : it can [2017-03-12 21:24:09] aron : and other sites can? [2017-03-12 21:24:11] QuinnTrades : it's just not in their best interest [2017-03-12 21:24:12] shiroe : /price [2017-03-12 21:24:15] ripcord : any of these sites can steal your money or get hacked [2017-03-12 21:24:20] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1220.20 (22.02%) Bitfinex : 1221.40 (22.14%) The Woodchipper : 1225.87 (22.59%) itBit : 1228.32 (22.83%) Kraken : 1217.01 (21.70%) GDAX : 1237.40 (23.74%) SLQ : ``` [2017-03-12 21:24:21] MikeHunt : aron: they could but its not a binary decision, counter-party risk varies from exchange to exchange [2017-03-12 21:24:23] aron : yeah see [2017-03-12 21:24:50] aron : wait so why is it riskier for interest rates [2017-03-12 21:24:55] MikeHunt : aron: what makes bitmex particularly good is the owners are publicly known and withdrawals are done manually [2017-03-12 21:24:59] aron : I doubt coinbase will steal my money [2017-03-12 21:25:07] MikeHunt : aron: IRS might get them liquidated [2017-03-12 21:25:10] zy : /wall [2017-03-12 21:25:13] trollbot : ``` ±$10 Bid|Ask liq : () $835K (0.00%) | $1881K (0.00%) ``` [2017-03-12 21:25:24] MikeHunt : aron: generally u make money from trading, not interest [2017-03-12 21:25:27] ripcord : coinbase is pretty safe, but they don't pay interest [2017-03-12 21:25:44] aron : my friend told me he gets interest from them [2017-03-12 21:26:02] aron : are u sure coinbase dont give interet? [2017-03-12 21:26:02] MikeHunt : aron: your friends an idiot then [2017-03-12 21:26:21] MikeHunt : aron: do you want to trade or are you lazy and want to rely on interest? [2017-03-12 21:26:37] QuinnTrades : You make money by holding and waiting for the price to go up or by trading [2017-03-12 21:26:50] aron : i dont understand how i should trade here [2017-03-12 21:27:09] ubba : coinbase has internet? [2017-03-12 21:27:26] aron : http://venturebeat.com/2014/07/02/coinbase-adds-vaults-the-savings-account-for-your-bitcoin/ [2017-03-12 21:27:51] Gr33d : /sentiment [2017-03-12 21:27:52] aron : MikeHunt are you buying or selling btcs [2017-03-12 21:27:54] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 65.45 / 34.55 Daily : 44.21 / 55.79 Weekly : 50.76 / 49.24 Monthly : 50.26 / 49.74``` [2017-03-12 21:28:23] cryptoyolo : damn whales, can u please just dump this shit [2017-03-12 21:28:38] cryptoyolo : fear is in the air... gotta take advantage [2017-03-12 21:28:45] ripcord : aron: just save your money man...you have no chance [2017-03-12 21:29:00] aron : i dont have any chance in trading? [2017-03-12 21:29:02] -_- : lol LTC/BTC dump [2017-03-12 21:29:06] ripcord : correct [2017-03-12 21:29:06] -_- : someone giving up [2017-03-12 21:29:10] MikeHunt : aron: i buy and sell based on TA + other stuff, if you dont know how to trade i suggest learning before loosing your money here [2017-03-12 21:29:13] aron : ripcord why do u think that [2017-03-12 21:29:34] stf28 : not sure that learning prevent from losing money [2017-03-12 21:29:53] aron : MikeHunt Im starting small with like 20-30 dollars [2017-03-12 21:30:02] aron : when I get good I'll increase it to 1000 [2017-03-12 21:30:03] ripcord : you can't even figure out interest [2017-03-12 21:30:14] MikeHunt : stf28: ofc ourse, i'd also suggest only keeping a small amount here until he's profitable [2017-03-12 21:30:54] MikeHunt : aron: put $100 here, put rest somewhere else to avoid temptation, then go learn to trade inc. risk and money management [2017-03-12 21:31:10] MikeHunt : aron: on tpb there is a FX series by ed ponsi [2017-03-12 21:31:11] aron : MikeHunt can you go to your bitcoin XBT tab and tell me what do you see in the middle [2017-03-12 21:31:19] aron : i see 1223.32 [2017-03-12 21:31:25] MikeHunt : aron: yeh [2017-03-12 21:31:32] MikeHunt : thats correct [2017-03-12 21:31:40] aron : MikeHunt, I know the basics I just dont understand this site [2017-03-12 21:31:57] MikeHunt : /guide [2017-03-12 21:31:57] trollbot : ``` Dear newcomer Please watch this video to get started with BitMex: ``` https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSh2bM3UP04 ``` Also make sure to read the docs: ``` https://www.bitmex.com/app/tradingOverview ``` Remember to trade small with low leverage until you understand how things work, otherwise you will get liquidated (REKT) pretty soon :boom: ``` [2017-03-12 21:32:00] MikeHunt : ^ do that [2017-03-12 21:32:06] aron : ok thanks [2017-03-12 21:33:17] aron : the market price is 1235 [2017-03-12 21:33:23] aron : why does this show 1223 [2017-03-12 21:33:38] ripcord : aron: sorry to be so harsh...20+ years trading experience...trading is the hardest thing you will do (at least to be profitable) [2017-03-12 21:34:00] QuinnTrades : /price [2017-03-12 21:34:03] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1219.99 (-0.02%) Bitfinex : 1221.80 (0.03%) The Woodchipper : 1227.24 (0.11%) itBit : 1227.54 (-0.06%) Kraken : 1217.02 (0.00%) GDAX : 1237.49 (0.01%) SLQ : 9 mins``` [2017-03-12 21:34:12] ubba : also i have 3 months trading experience i agree with that guy [2017-03-12 21:34:12] Farzad : aron: here it is 1223 ;) [2017-03-12 21:34:21] QuinnTrades : 1219 on stampy [2017-03-12 21:34:23] aron : ripcord what if im just doing it based on what i think will happen to the price [2017-03-12 21:34:30] aron : i think it will increase by tomorrow [2017-03-12 21:34:35] aron : than what it is right now [2017-03-12 21:34:43] MikeHunt : aron: based on what? TA? [2017-03-12 21:34:47] QuinnTrades : then you buy(long) right now [2017-03-12 21:34:52] QuinnTrades : and sell tomorrow [2017-03-12 21:35:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `DASH7D`: sell 14 @ 0.059475 [2017-03-12 21:35:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `DASH7D`: sell 1 @ 0.059993 [2017-03-12 21:35:09] aron : MikeHunt today's average was 1203 [2017-03-12 21:35:18] aron : and Market Price is 1237 right now [2017-03-12 21:35:24] aron : so it should go down a bit today [2017-03-12 21:35:41] aron : especially since avg was 1180 yesterday [2017-03-12 21:35:46] ripcord : aron: it's all odds...your goal is to create a system where you have an edge...you won't win every trade, you can only increase your odds and need to accept losses as part of your strategy [2017-03-12 21:35:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `DASH7D`: sell 8 @ 0.059065 [2017-03-12 21:36:13] MikeHunt : aron: i recommend watching risk management video if u havent already [2017-03-12 21:36:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `DASH7D`: sell 2 @ 0.058890 [2017-03-12 21:37:47] aron : if I buy 1 usd worth of bitcoin right now at entry price 1225.11 and price starts to decrease, what price will my position be liquidated at? [2017-03-12 21:37:54] ripcord : aron: this is about forex, but much of it applies to BTC trading as well: http://www.babypips.com/school [2017-03-12 21:38:11] ripcord : it's the very basics of trading [2017-03-12 21:38:47] MikeHunt : aron: tells u in confirmation box [2017-03-12 21:38:54] MikeHunt : u can also click calc symbol to calc it [2017-03-12 21:40:09] aron : MikeHunt the price of btc is 1224 right now, do you agree that the price will reach 1340 by the end of the year [2017-03-12 21:40:32] aron : I think it will thats why im buying it right now [2017-03-12 21:41:29] ThruTheFloor : aron: For long term trading like that you shouldn't be usingleverage. Go use another exchange. [2017-03-12 21:42:07] shiroe : /sentiment [2017-03-12 21:42:11] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 63.21 / 36.80 Daily : 43.04 / 56.96 Weekly : 50.75 / 49.25 Monthly : 50.27 / 49.73``` [2017-03-12 21:42:11] aron : so this platform is only for day trading? [2017-03-12 21:42:42] Apocalyptic : aron: no [2017-03-12 21:43:07] QuinnTrades : it's good for go big or go home type orders [2017-03-12 21:43:19] heheh lo : QuinnTrades: x100 yolo [2017-03-12 21:43:20] aron : can u give an example [2017-03-12 21:43:30] ThruTheFloor : aron: ETF [2017-03-12 21:43:47] aron : i meant an example of a go big go home trade [2017-03-12 21:43:53] QuinnTrades : If I had 10 btc, I could buy right now with an order the size of 1000 btc [2017-03-12 21:44:03] QuinnTrades : if price went up 10% [2017-03-12 21:44:04] ThruTheFloor : aron: ETF [2017-03-12 21:44:12] aron : but why would this site allow you to do that [2017-03-12 21:44:13] QuinnTrades : I'd make 100 btc [2017-03-12 21:44:17] aron : you only have 10 btc [2017-03-12 21:44:25] QuinnTrades : that's the point [2017-03-12 21:44:26] aron : how can u buy size of 1000 btc [2017-03-12 21:44:34] QuinnTrades : leverage [2017-03-12 21:44:35] zy : 100x [2017-03-12 21:44:36] cryptoyolo : have 10 btc [2017-03-12 21:44:40] cryptoyolo : leverage 100x [2017-03-12 21:44:42] heheh lo : lol just go to investopedia and learn from there, leverage [2017-03-12 21:44:45] Apocalyptic : leverage, it's a thing [2017-03-12 21:44:47] Parlangua : basically if the loss goes over that 10btc you get rekt [2017-03-12 21:44:47] heheh lo : and margin trading [2017-03-12 21:44:48] aron : oh ok [2017-03-12 21:44:57] herpinator : aron: bare in mind a 1% move in the wrong direction and 100x gets margin called [2017-03-12 21:45:05] QuinnTrades : yeah, if it goes down a tiny little bit, you lose everything [2017-03-12 21:45:07] zy : No offense, but this is probably not the ideal place for you [2017-03-12 21:45:18] QuinnTrades : that's the going home part [2017-03-12 21:45:22] aron : Quinntrade at what point would u lose everything [2017-03-12 21:45:23] Apocalyptic : zy: I'm sure he has great potential [2017-03-12 21:45:31] cryptoyolo : 100x its not recommended for crypto [2017-03-12 21:46:01] cryptoyolo : 25x its too much already imo [2017-03-12 21:46:13] zy : 10x is too much [2017-03-12 21:46:29] heheh lo : aron: usually most of the people do 10x~25x for scalping, long term wise go lower [2017-03-12 21:46:32] aron : i get it, if price went down 1% you would lose everything [2017-03-12 21:46:42] aron : because 1% of 1000 is 10 [2017-03-12 21:46:44] QuinnTrades : Who is selling 150 dash at 0.058, it's worth 10% more than that [2017-03-12 21:46:47] QuinnTrades : people are crazy [2017-03-12 21:46:48] aron : and 10 was your original position [2017-03-12 21:46:57] heheh lo : QuinnTrades: bots [2017-03-12 21:47:02] QuinnTrades : bots are retarded [2017-03-12 21:47:09] QuinnTrades : aron: yes [2017-03-12 21:48:22] aron : QuinnTrades whats your positon on XBT [2017-03-12 21:48:48] QuinnTrades : I'm waiting for something to happen first [2017-03-12 21:49:14] QuinnTrades : I can't safely put any bets rn [2017-03-12 21:49:47] aron : Quinntrades the market price of XBT is 1226 right now, is there some way I can buy it and ensure that the computer sells it when price reaches 1230? [2017-03-12 21:49:56] KyllingLolsson : /sentiment [2017-03-12 21:49:56] QuinnTrades : limit order [2017-03-12 21:50:01] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 58.48 / 41.52 Daily : 42.77 / 57.23 Weekly : 50.75 / 49.25 Monthly : 50.27 / 49.74``` [2017-03-12 21:50:21] QuinnTrades : you buy market price right now, then place a limit order undoing it at the price you want [2017-03-12 21:50:43] QuinnTrades : so buy now, then place sell limit order at 1230 [2017-03-12 21:50:48] aron : you mean stop limit right [2017-03-12 21:50:55] QuinnTrades : yeah [2017-03-12 21:50:58] QuinnTrades : wait no [2017-03-12 21:51:00] QuinnTrades : limit [2017-03-12 21:51:15] aron : oh so i short it [2017-03-12 21:51:19] aron : at 1230 [2017-03-12 21:51:22] QuinnTrades : yes [2017-03-12 21:51:34] aron : but i have a bit of a qualm [2017-03-12 21:51:49] aron : for example the problem is that if i buy at 1225 [2017-03-12 21:52:09] aron : and the price goes down to 301 it will liquidate me [2017-03-12 21:52:14] aron : but i dont want to liquidate [2017-03-12 21:52:23] Parlangua : lol [2017-03-12 21:52:28] ross : /price [2017-03-12 21:52:32] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1222.00 (0.16%) Bitfinex : 1223.00 (0.10%) The Woodchipper : 1227.41 (0.01%) itBit : 1229.57 (0.17%) Kraken : 1220.00 (0.24%) GDAX : 1238.00 (0.04%) SLQ : 18 mins``` [2017-03-12 21:52:35] aron : i only want to liquidate if price reaches 0 which i ddont think will happen [2017-03-12 21:52:50] Apocalyptic : 301 is as likely in the short term [2017-03-12 21:52:52] Dynamix : I just need 1 good swing man common :D [2017-03-12 21:52:53] QuinnTrades : then don't use leverage [2017-03-12 21:53:02] aron : im not using leverage [2017-03-12 21:53:04] Dynamix : lol [2017-03-12 21:53:10] herpinator : hahahhaa [2017-03-12 21:53:11] aron : i put it at cross [2017-03-12 21:53:16] aron : not even 1x [2017-03-12 21:53:17] Dynamix : no leverage you must be crazy lol [2017-03-12 21:53:17] Apocalyptic : QuinnTrades: using 1x will still have a non-zero liq [2017-03-12 21:53:23] Dynamix : no point or must have a lot of money [2017-03-12 21:53:25] Apocalyptic : it's an inverse contract [2017-03-12 21:53:36] Apocalyptic : going long there is no way to have a 0 liq price [2017-03-12 21:53:42] Dynamix : 5x LVG is the lowest [2017-03-12 21:53:45] Dynamix : I'll ever go with lol [2017-03-12 21:53:46] QuinnTrades : fair enough [2017-03-12 21:53:49] aron : oh ok [2017-03-12 21:53:52] Parlangua : aron, you can get an app on your phone for price alarms if you're worried [2017-03-12 21:53:55] dorsens : oh wow there's even trollbox here [2017-03-12 21:54:06] BitMEX_Sam : Boilr works for BitMEX prices. [2017-03-12 21:54:08] dorsens : negative fees for market makers + trollbox [2017-03-12 21:54:10] dorsens : I'm in love [2017-03-12 21:54:14] aron : i think i got the hang of this [2017-03-12 21:54:15] Dynamix : dorsens: Yeah took me like 2 weeks to use it lol [2017-03-12 21:54:16] BitMEX_Sam : dorsens: Welcome [2017-03-12 21:54:28] QuinnTrades : you can set up a buy order super low if you want but I don't think it's hitting 300 tonight [2017-03-12 21:54:29] QuinnTrades : idk tho [2017-03-12 21:54:38] aron : QuinnTrades why dont you buy it at 1225 right now and sell all at 1227? [2017-03-12 21:54:42] aron : you make progit [2017-03-12 21:54:46] aron : profit* [2017-03-12 21:55:00] QuinnTrades : cos I'm not sure it'll hit 1227 [2017-03-12 21:55:02] aron : surely the price will reach 1227 today [2017-03-12 21:55:13] QuinnTrades : I'm not sure of anything right now so I wait [2017-03-12 21:55:23] QuinnTrades : but you can totally do that [2017-03-12 21:55:25] Ugly_Old_Goat : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrKU0Ymta-U&t=1957s [2017-03-12 21:55:31] aron : ok fine ill give another example [2017-03-12 21:55:56] aron : its at 1226.18 right now why dont u buy it and sell all at 1226.28 [2017-03-12 21:56:18] cryptoyolo : aron: there are transaction fees in operations. [2017-03-12 21:56:29] QuinnTrades : What he said [2017-03-12 21:56:33] aron : ohh [2017-03-12 21:56:34] aron : i see [2017-03-12 21:56:37] QuinnTrades : you want at least a couple $$ [2017-03-12 21:56:49] aron : where can i see fees [2017-03-12 21:57:07] aron : cause i see cost as 0 [2017-03-12 21:57:25] aron : im doing dollar trades maybe thats wy? [2017-03-12 21:57:47] aron : price has reached 1227.08 [2017-03-12 21:59:01] Doom : aron start with low prices before u learn things not good idea to start with high [2017-03-12 21:59:12] -_- : nice someone dumped DASH here way lower [2017-03-12 21:59:13] aron : Doom im doing dollar trades [2017-03-12 21:59:17] aron : how is this high [2017-03-12 21:59:52] QuinnTrades : -_-: ikr, crazy shit [2017-03-12 22:00:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTH17`: buy 450 @ 1233.63 [2017-03-12 22:00:40] aron : QuinnTrades what fees do we pay [2017-03-12 22:00:49] aron : because it is showing me 0 fees [2017-03-12 22:01:35] QuinnTrades : 0.0750% taker fee? I think [2017-03-12 22:01:43] QuinnTrades : idk exactly [2017-03-12 22:01:59] aron : shouldnt that come under cost? [2017-03-12 22:02:09] aron : 0.075% off my profits right? [2017-03-12 22:02:39] zy : dump or pump when asia wakes up? what do we think? [2017-03-12 22:02:40] Apocalyptic : stamp pump [2017-03-12 22:02:47] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 21000 @ 1230.60 [2017-03-12 22:02:47] QuinnTrades : https://www.bitmex.com/app/fees [2017-03-12 22:03:12] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 5038 @ 1231.80 [2017-03-12 22:04:15] Dynamix : upp [2017-03-12 22:04:19] aron : QuinnTrades if i leverage 1 dollar for 10x and buy at 1232 and price reaches 1233 i make 10 dollars right? [2017-03-12 22:05:12] ripcord : no [2017-03-12 22:06:06] ross : you need 1btc in value of contracts to make $10 [2017-03-12 22:06:36] zy : 10x？ [2017-03-12 22:06:40] shiroe : going 1300! [2017-03-12 22:06:56] ripcord : you'd make less than a penny on that trade, not including fees [2017-03-12 22:07:36] -_- : DASH ATH [2017-03-12 22:07:41] rasdasd : dash 10% behind polo wtf [2017-03-12 22:07:46] aron : oh yeah now i understand [2017-03-12 22:08:38] ross : aron: use the calculator beside Place order [2017-03-12 22:08:41] ross : its helpful [2017-03-12 22:09:03] zy : /sentiment [2017-03-12 22:09:06] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 48.66 / 51.34 Daily : 43.01 / 56.99 Weekly : 50.75 / 49.25 Monthly : 50.24 / 49.76``` [2017-03-12 22:10:03] aron : the calculator says if i buy 1 usd at 1232 and sell at 1236 with leverage of 10 then i get 3.24% ROE [2017-03-12 22:10:21] aron : it sounds wrong [2017-03-12 22:10:48] zy : that's right [2017-03-12 22:10:54] aron : oh ok [2017-03-12 22:10:56] zy : 3.24% of 1 usd [2017-03-12 22:11:23] aron : and when would my position be liquidated? [2017-03-12 22:11:30] hmmmYea : this is why we need a DASH perp swap [2017-03-12 22:11:31] ross : who wants to clear the btc sell wall? [2017-03-12 22:11:47] zy : My bet is on china and japan [2017-03-12 22:11:47] ripcord : aron: don't trade [2017-03-12 22:11:56] aron : ripcord it takes time to learn [2017-03-12 22:12:15] bingbongfly : buy dash, wait till settlement, easy money [2017-03-12 22:12:26] aron : ripcord i have no other way of making money online [2017-03-12 22:12:41] ripcord : that's irrelevant [2017-03-12 22:12:42] herpinator : aron do you have skype or discord or something? [2017-03-12 22:12:49] MikeHunt : looks like stamps going up [2017-03-12 22:12:49] aron : why? [2017-03-12 22:13:00] herpinator : then I can show you some things [2017-03-12 22:13:20] aron : yeah i have skype [2017-03-12 22:13:20] ross : so polo goes up on dahs [2017-03-12 22:13:23] ross : dash* [2017-03-12 22:13:26] ross : but bitmex goes down [2017-03-12 22:13:34] herpinator : send your skype address to 59959a@gmail.com [2017-03-12 22:13:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `DASH7D`: sell 5 @ 0.057848 [2017-03-12 22:14:19] zy : 5 long... [2017-03-12 22:14:31] bingbongfly : price at polo 0.0654.. wtf [2017-03-12 22:14:38] bingbongfly : people on mex too scared [2017-03-12 22:15:07] hmmmYea : bingbongfly: to live the dream, you have to be the dream [2017-03-12 22:15:24] aron : sent [2017-03-12 22:16:18] herpinator : aron: ok well I will be in touch soon I am about to sleep [2017-03-12 22:16:26] aron : ok [2017-03-12 22:16:46] ripcord : bingbongfly: this is a futures contract...obviously people don't think this price will hold [2017-03-12 22:18:09] thxforyourbtc! : obviously the price wont last lol [2017-03-12 22:18:15] Tetsuo : bingbongfly: some in here is shorting hard, that´s why the price is lower [2017-03-12 22:18:23] Tetsuo : wonder where his liq is [2017-03-12 22:18:30] Tetsuo : or maybe it´s the pumper on polo [2017-03-12 22:18:41] hmmmYea : last time people said that about DASH it was break .03 [2017-03-12 22:18:55] hmmmYea : breaking* [2017-03-12 22:19:16] Tetsuo : we had a devoted zcash shorted who was responsible for a sginificant discount for a while, then he got rekt for ~400 BTC [2017-03-12 22:19:19] hmmmYea : seems unlikely the DASH bubble will burst in the next 6 days [2017-03-12 22:19:20] Tetsuo : *r [2017-03-12 22:19:25] Tetsuo : trollboxer was his name [2017-03-12 22:19:28] Tetsuo : may he rest in peace [2017-03-12 22:19:36] Tetsuo : hmmmYea: lol [2017-03-12 22:19:44] memes : idk could burst in the next 6 hours [2017-03-12 22:19:51] memes : whenever it starts toppling [2017-03-12 22:19:54] memes : its gonna topple [2017-03-12 22:20:20] Apocalyptic : rip trollboxer [2017-03-12 22:20:30] hmmmYea : memes: well yeah. may go up 10x before that happens [2017-03-12 22:20:30] Apocalyptic : didn't he win an award at least or something ? [2017-03-12 22:20:53] Tetsuo : Apocalyptic: yes [2017-03-12 22:20:53] aron : guys I want to leverage 100x 1 usd at entry price 1232 and sell all at 1233 [2017-03-12 22:20:59] aron : what can be a problem with this? [2017-03-12 22:21:03] Tetsuo : fees [2017-03-12 22:21:10] Tetsuo : bigger than your profit [2017-03-12 22:21:11] aron : im getting 8% ROE [2017-03-12 22:21:55] ross : you can make 8% easier by shorting xmr right now [2017-03-12 22:21:58] ripcord : no guarantee that you'll be able to sell at 1233...what if it goes down? What's your plan? [2017-03-12 22:22:05] aron : then i lose a dollar [2017-03-12 22:22:25] ripcord : true [2017-03-12 22:22:40] MikeHunt : aron: 100 reduces cost, not multiply contracts [2017-03-12 22:22:46] Apocalyptic : 8% upside for a 100% downside