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[2017-03-11 14:48:53] sleger : laisee: maybe you didnt understand it
[2017-03-11 14:48:56] j8 : same thing happened to me, and the worst part is even though i got back in position, they were all adl'ed above 1200 because they were new positions
[2017-03-11 14:48:59] laisee : maybe u didnt
[2017-03-11 14:49:00] Sultan Pepper : it felt like a fomo hunt with some nice shorts on top
[2017-03-11 14:49:13] laisee : Sultan Pepper: +1
[2017-03-11 14:49:32] sleger : j8: ah well, in the end i lost 50 but I would have made 300 if approved
[2017-03-11 14:49:46] sleger : and i would have been flat if it went down to 800
[2017-03-11 14:49:52] Sultan Pepper : Not bad RR
[2017-03-11 14:49:53] sleger : and i had buy orders there
[2017-03-11 14:50:14] j8 : yep no regrets
[2017-03-11 14:50:16] laisee : maybe next time ....
[2017-03-11 14:50:17] sleger : so it was a great plan, with the worst scenario happening
[2017-03-11 14:50:26] sleger : even if laissee doenst fully comprehedn it
[2017-03-11 14:50:59] laisee : heh. read your own words on the "plan" - u didnt understand the risks
[2017-03-11 14:51:05] Sultan Pepper : "and i would have been flat if it went down to 800" hmmmmm
[2017-03-11 14:51:07] sleger : of course I did
[2017-03-11 14:51:26] sleger : Sultan Pepper: I had long positions that would have been stopped at 1k
[2017-03-11 14:51:37] sleger : so I would have been short from 1k to 800
[2017-03-11 14:51:52] laisee : hmmm. u were long Vol and got blown out by ... unexpedted Vol?
[2017-03-11 14:51:52] Sultan Pepper : surely not a big short down there in another account?
[2017-03-11 14:52:09] Sultan Pepper : :D
[2017-03-11 14:52:30] sleger : laisee: no, by path dependence of the realized vol
[2017-03-11 14:52:46] sleger : Sultan Pepper: i had many positions in many accounts in many exchanges
[2017-03-11 14:53:21] Sultan Pepper : i'll never get a solid confirmation of this theory...
[2017-03-11 14:53:25] sleger : I also expected bigger vol on the announcement than what happened
[2017-03-11 14:53:35] mdsmm : true, me too
[2017-03-11 14:54:22] Sultan Pepper : It was kinda... underwhelming. The daily candle looks cool though! A moment in chart history there
[2017-03-11 14:54:28] sleger : But I am long and price is recovering (faster than I hoped) so in the end i am not losing much
[2017-03-11 14:54:33] laisee : then u didn't account for the path dependence. maybe next time
[2017-03-11 14:54:54] mdsmm : I'm long as well big time but having some spare money to trade a bit :D
[2017-03-11 14:55:05] sleger : laisee: yes I did, but there is no way to make a strictly no risk trade
[2017-03-11 14:55:08] laisee : Sultan Pepper: thats a pretty awesome candle ;-)
[2017-03-11 14:55:18] j8 : it's a pretty obvious trade, which got shaken out because it was obvious. top okc holders were going 20x both ways
[2017-03-11 14:55:23] sleger : I thought and think it has a very high RR ratio and it was a great trade, cant always work
[2017-03-11 14:55:38] Sultan Pepper : laisee: it's like a tattoo now
[2017-03-11 14:55:39] j8 : #1 holder got rekt for 50k twice is 24 hours
[2017-03-11 14:55:46] j8 : 50k or more
[2017-03-11 14:56:32] sleger : yes I should have calibrated my short liquidation to be slightly higher maybe, but here the H17 went pretty high so it would have been triggered anyways
[2017-03-11 14:57:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 3355 @ 1181.81
[2017-03-11 14:58:56] mdsmm : sell sell
[2017-03-11 14:59:08] mdsmm : dash market slow af
[2017-03-11 14:59:56] laisee : ... vol smile is not symmetrical ;-)
[2017-03-11 15:01:10] sleger : Oh and also i always stayed long a lot of ethusd, which overperformed
[2017-03-11 15:01:33] laisee : consuelo de bobo
[2017-03-11 15:01:47] sleger : and this had nothing to do with vol smile.
[2017-03-11 15:01:54] sleger : nice try
[2017-03-11 15:02:16] fulrik : Wow spread is terrible on Dash here. What's up
[2017-03-11 15:03:06] -_- : fulrik: Market maker hit its limit
[2017-03-11 15:03:27] oo : i have 5000 ETH7Ds. and 24H turn over is 70000 ETH7Ds. AM I main player? -_-
[2017-03-11 15:03:34] Sultan Pepper : Head and shoulders on TSLA looks like a good short, no?
[2017-03-11 15:04:31] KyllingLolsson : /sentiment
[2017-03-11 15:04:33] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 54.04 / 45.96 Daily : 49.50 / 50.50 Weekly : 51.46 / 48.54 Monthly : 50.07 / 49.93```
[2017-03-11 15:05:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `DASH7D`: sell 577 @ 0.053473
[2017-03-11 15:05:34] laisee : DASH is REKT
[2017-03-11 15:05:50] Ahhere : oo: 201xbt open contracts
[2017-03-11 15:07:24] oo : Ahhere: 201xbt open contracts? hwaw
[2017-03-11 15:12:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 15000 @ 1180.46
[2017-03-11 15:15:12] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 10 @ 1178.61
[2017-03-11 15:17:32] shiroe : a bit of downtrend is it?
[2017-03-11 15:18:34] REKT : Liquidated short on `DASH7D`: buy 10 @ 0.052636
[2017-03-11 15:18:58] cryptoyolo : lol... 20x dash play is dangerous guys
[2017-03-11 15:19:28] shiroe : i never touch dash here, you can easily get rekt. haha
[2017-03-11 15:25:16] fulrik : Spread is awful here and so is slippage on altcoins
[2017-03-11 15:25:25] fulrik : dashmex.com is not a thing yet..
[2017-03-11 15:25:45] fulrik : Sultan Pepper: No.
[2017-03-11 15:26:06] Sultan Pepper : fulrik: huh?
[2017-03-11 15:26:24] fulrik : "TSLA looks like a good short"
[2017-03-11 15:28:10] Sultan Pepper : Why doesn't it?
[2017-03-11 15:32:35] fulrik : B/C it has bottomed for now. Solid support.
[2017-03-11 15:32:54] fulrik : IMO, It would be a decent entry for a short term long though.
[2017-03-11 15:36:15] KyllingLolsson : /sentiment
[2017-03-11 15:36:18] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 50.19 / 49.81 Daily : 49.03 / 50.97 Weekly : 51.47 / 48.53 Monthly : 50.06 / 49.94```
[2017-03-11 15:40:11] bg5 : hey all, howd you all do during the shit storm
[2017-03-11 15:41:17] Actualiteit : bg5: went long till 1300, went long again at 1000
[2017-03-11 15:41:20] Actualiteit : feel gud
[2017-03-11 15:42:48] Heyya : /sentiment
[2017-03-11 15:42:51] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 45.24 / 54.77 Daily : 48.84 / 51.16 Weekly : 51.43 / 48.57 Monthly : 50.11 / 49.90```
[2017-03-11 15:42:59] bg5 : got short at 1230 and got adl at around 1030, went short again between 1087 and now
[2017-03-11 15:43:53] bg5 : happy to leave the short open for next month or so, reckon we will test sub 900's after all the bad news this last month
[2017-03-11 15:46:32] zy : I hope you're right, but it's kinda optimistic I think, it's pretty bullish atm
[2017-03-11 15:48:27] zy : The funding is making me bleed
[2017-03-11 15:48:52] shiroe : /price
[2017-03-11 15:48:55] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1181.79 (-1.34%) Bitfinex : 1183.00 (-0.73%) The Woodchipper : 1188.07 (-0.74%) itBit : 1184.59 (NaN%) Kraken : 1176.46 (-1.14%) GDAX : 1195.99 (-1.18%) SLQ : 1 hour, 52 mins```
[2017-03-11 15:49:41] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 2200 @ 1184.41
[2017-03-11 15:51:11] oo : REKT: is bot?
[2017-03-11 15:53:01] REKT : oo: REKT is a superior lifeform!
[2017-03-11 15:53:18] whali : /sentiment
[2017-03-11 15:53:20] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 48.90 / 51.10 Daily : 48.82 / 51.18 Weekly : 51.39 / 48.62 Monthly : 50.11 / 49.89```
[2017-03-11 15:54:58] thomaskikansha : did user count went 2K yesterday?
[2017-03-11 15:55:42] REKT : thomaskikansha: REKT invited all his robot friends to play. It was fun yesterday!
[2017-03-11 15:55:48] stf28 : thomaskikansha: yes
[2017-03-11 15:57:01] thomaskikansha : yesterday was epic
[2017-03-11 15:57:23] thomaskikansha : I was sleeping when it went sub-1K though
[2017-03-11 15:57:45] thomaskikansha : should have short that before I sleep
[2017-03-11 15:59:26] Aegis : REKT: you're alive ?!?
[2017-03-11 16:00:59] -_- : thomaskikansha: what if you shorted and etf was approved. Then rekt
[2017-03-11 16:01:18] -_- : Aegis: Rekt is bitmex #1 customer
[2017-03-11 16:01:35] thomaskikansha : -_-: yeah didnt got balls to short
[2017-03-11 16:01:48] thomaskikansha : decided to hold my coins with no position
[2017-03-11 16:02:06] -_- : I should have waited till after the news to trade and just watch instead
[2017-03-11 16:02:47] thomaskikansha : short 1x to hedge should have been good
[2017-03-11 16:09:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 2000 @ 1184.03
[2017-03-11 16:10:08] mdsmm : /sentiment
[2017-03-11 16:10:11] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 53.26 / 46.74 Daily : 48.74 / 51.26 Weekly : 51.23 / 48.77 Monthly : 50.12 / 49.88```
[2017-03-11 16:10:25] mdsmm : /wall
[2017-03-11 16:10:30] trollbot : ``` ±$10 Bid|Ask liq : (1 hour, 42 mins) $703K (35.80%) | $2038K (-25.66%) ```
[2017-03-11 16:15:27] vgck : So, if bfx is at 1179, okc at 1175, why are we at 1182??
[2017-03-11 16:17:10] -_- : DASH going for an ATH
[2017-03-11 16:17:33] -_- : okc at 1187 and stamp 1178
[2017-03-11 16:17:50] -_- : .06!!
[2017-03-11 16:17:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `DASH7D`: buy 11 @ 0.056361
[2017-03-11 16:17:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `DASH7D`: buy 22 @ 0.055957
[2017-03-11 16:17:52] REKT : Liquidated short on `DASH7D`: buy 10 @ 0.055862
[2017-03-11 16:17:52] REKT : Liquidated short on `DASH7D`: buy 7 @ 0.055773
[2017-03-11 16:17:52] -_- : finally
[2017-03-11 16:17:57] -_- : to the moon
[2017-03-11 16:18:52] shiroe : Damn dash
[2017-03-11 16:18:53] -_- : bitmex still way behind
[2017-03-11 16:18:54] shiroe : wants $100
[2017-03-11 16:19:01] -_- : you guys are slow. it's okay
[2017-03-11 16:19:40] -_- : AABTC will have to close his short and push price to 0.07
[2017-03-11 16:19:42] -_- : still time to long
[2017-03-11 16:20:57] Farzad : /rekt
[2017-03-11 16:20:58] trollbot : ``` 3 recent REKTs > 100K: ``` ``` 7 hours, 23 mins ago: Liquidated short on `XBTH17`: buy 235337 @ 1196.58 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire: ``` ``` 18 hours, 8 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBCH17`: sell 235620 @ 7605.8 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire: ``` ``` 19 hours, 15 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 250000 @ 1167.02 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire: ```
[2017-03-11 16:21:06] shiroe : btc to 1k, dash to 100.
[2017-03-11 16:21:07] shiroe : Easy
[2017-03-11 16:22:08] mariomarco : dash is ltc all over again
[2017-03-11 16:22:15] mariomarco : it gon get sold to chinese and then forgotten
[2017-03-11 16:22:35] mariomarco : masternodes getting melted to pure $
[2017-03-11 16:22:49] -_- : lol
[2017-03-11 16:22:54] -_- : DASH to OKCOIN
[2017-03-11 16:23:00] -_- : okcoin
[2017-03-11 16:23:02] -_- : OKCOIN
[2017-03-11 16:23:06] stf28 : lol
[2017-03-11 16:23:08] -_- : 0Kc01N
[2017-03-11 16:23:22] -_- : who is dumping DASH at 0.055
[2017-03-11 16:23:25] thomaskikansha : okcoin
[2017-03-11 16:23:35] -_- : thank you plz dump more. i hold till 0.1
[2017-03-11 16:25:12] sleger : so rapid is still short since we didnt hit 800 ?
[2017-03-11 16:25:47] -_- : yeah
[2017-03-11 16:25:58] -_- : they are waiting for this dead cat to be over
[2017-03-11 16:26:09] -_- : and bearwhale to dump tens of thousands of BTC so he can close in profit
[2017-03-11 16:26:49] -_- : XMR going to double in price next week
[2017-03-11 16:27:01] -_- : hope you longed the dip
[2017-03-11 16:27:10] -_- : DASH money spilling over into XMR
[2017-03-11 16:28:24] mariomarco : -_-: tru dis ^
[2017-03-11 16:30:04] kurkudu : sleger: as I understood he got rekt on march when it spiked to 1500, not sure if he was in position during the news
[2017-03-11 16:30:38] sleger : all the money will go to eth anyways
[2017-03-11 16:30:55] -_- : just look at how close XMR is to breaking out http://i.imgur.com/ktpoBJU.png
[2017-03-11 16:31:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `DASH7D`: sell 50 @ 0.054601
[2017-03-11 16:31:36] bingbongfly : in norway there are two drugdealers who have to pay back 120 btc since they got caught
[2017-03-11 16:31:39] bingbongfly : using BTC
[2017-03-11 16:31:49] bingbongfly : such news might give some push to xmr too
[2017-03-11 16:31:54] bingbongfly : I read it in the paper today :D
[2017-03-11 16:31:56] sleger : -_-: I dont read charts
[2017-03-11 16:32:09] -_- : nothing to read. just look at price breaking the line
[2017-03-11 16:32:19] sleger : yes but who made up that line ?
[2017-03-11 16:32:57] -_- : the whales who pushed price that high now for a 5th time
[2017-03-11 16:33:17] -_- : they created that line perfectly
[2017-03-11 16:33:20] -_- : it's a sign
[2017-03-11 16:33:22] whali : /sentiment
[2017-03-11 16:33:25] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 49.59 / 50.41 Daily : 48.35 / 51.65 Weekly : 50.97 / 49.03 Monthly : 50.10 / 49.90```
[2017-03-11 16:33:34] vgck : bingbongfly: Why in BTC?
[2017-03-11 16:33:50] bingbongfly : vgck: ?
[2017-03-11 16:33:53] bingbongfly : They made the profit in BTC
[2017-03-11 16:33:58] bingbongfly : so they have to pay back in BTC
[2017-03-11 16:34:02] bingbongfly : illegal money
[2017-03-11 16:34:14] bingbongfly : it's the first time anyone have to pay back digital money to the state
[2017-03-11 16:34:30] bingbongfly : at least the article said so
[2017-03-11 16:34:59] laisee : *silk road*
[2017-03-11 16:35:38] bingbongfly : laisee: robert owe dollars
[2017-03-11 16:35:40] bingbongfly : not btc
[2017-03-11 16:36:10] bingbongfly : wait ross is his name
[2017-03-11 16:36:52] laisee : but all his BTC was confiscated
[2017-03-11 16:37:12] bingbongfly : yea
[2017-03-11 16:37:32] laisee : dread pirate ross
[2017-03-11 16:37:41] bingbongfly : legend
[2017-03-11 16:38:06] bingbongfly : a bit unresponsible however
[2017-03-11 16:38:15] bingbongfly : back in 2012 I was buying drugs as a fking kid
[2017-03-11 16:38:23] bingbongfly : drugs I couldn't get any other way
[2017-03-11 16:38:32] bingbongfly : or none of my friends
[2017-03-11 16:39:33] mdsmm : /sentiment
[2017-03-11 16:39:35] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 61.54 / 38.46 Daily : 48.68 / 51.32 Weekly : 51.04 / 48.96 Monthly : 50.10 / 49.90```
[2017-03-11 16:40:28] bingbongfly : but I don't think ross deserve lifetime in prison...
[2017-03-11 16:40:39] bingbongfly : he didn't hurt anyone really
[2017-03-11 16:42:23] -_- : he was hurting the drug cartels that the USA government wants to succeed
[2017-03-11 16:43:36] sleger : "he didn't hurt anyone really" <= really ??
[2017-03-11 16:43:56] sleger : drug mafia doesnt hurt anyone ?
[2017-03-11 16:45:50] laisee : online drug trade reduces violence to large degree. its a good thing, if drugs will be consumed anyway.
[2017-03-11 16:48:30] sleger : if nobody makes or sell them they cant be consumed
[2017-03-11 16:48:43] sleger : but I hear your point
[2017-03-11 16:50:12] sleger : but then it should be like most national lotteries, it should be government controlled and profits should go to the govt, not private individuals
[2017-03-11 16:51:45] laisee : or they can legalize and tax the heck out of it.
[2017-03-11 16:54:23] KyllingLolsson : /sentiment
[2017-03-11 16:54:25] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 57.30 / 42.70 Daily : 48.74 / 51.27 Weekly : 50.98 / 49.02 Monthly : 50.11 / 49.89```
[2017-03-11 16:54:29] sleger : eth 0.17 wall attacked (440btc left)
[2017-03-11 16:58:05] -_- : eth 0.02 incoming
[2017-03-11 16:58:57] sleger : big wall before 0.018
[2017-03-11 17:04:49] sleger : 80btc left
[2017-03-11 17:06:12] sleger : gone
[2017-03-11 17:08:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: buy 50 @ 0.017180
[2017-03-11 17:09:30] KyllingLolsson : /sentiment
[2017-03-11 17:09:32] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 43.91 / 56.09 Daily : 48.72 / 51.28 Weekly : 50.97 / 49.03 Monthly : 50.08 / 49.92```
[2017-03-11 17:12:08] KyllingLolsson : Up or down... ? btc
[2017-03-11 17:13:04] -_- : sideways till next move up
[2017-03-11 17:14:22] KyllingLolsson : No way...
[2017-03-11 17:14:41] KyllingLolsson : 30 min stochastic looking bearish
[2017-03-11 17:15:46] KyllingLolsson : +... Were in a down trend
[2017-03-11 17:20:25] vgck : KyllingLolsson: +1
[2017-03-11 17:20:32] vgck : Fully short atm
[2017-03-11 17:20:34] REKT : Liquidated short on `DASH7D`: buy 100 @ 0.054804
[2017-03-11 17:22:31] sleger : how many billions of btc market cap will flow to eth ?
[2017-03-11 17:23:46] Tetsuo : sleger: http://1u88jj3r4db2x4txp44yqfj1.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/dr_evil-e1349350780691.jpg
[2017-03-11 17:26:25] sleger : Tetsuo: I think it will be more than that
[2017-03-11 17:26:50] sleger : no rapid in the chat today at all ?
[2017-03-11 17:26:58] Tetsuo : *evil laugh*
[2017-03-11 17:27:52] Apocalyptic : sleger: must have taken a day off to celebrate the dump
[2017-03-11 17:28:12] sleger : Apocalyptic: what dump, we are at almost 1200 and he wanted to buy at 800
[2017-03-11 17:28:31] -_- : bitmex hit 1000
[2017-03-11 17:28:51] -_- : shit was so laggy best price you could trade was like 1060-1070
[2017-03-11 17:28:52] Apocalyptic : sleger: that was sarcasm
[2017-03-11 17:29:23] -_- : so glad xmr has 25x
[2017-03-11 17:29:25] sleger : yeah unable to place any order here for 2 minutes at least
[2017-03-11 17:29:28] Apocalyptic : does anyone know if lockhedge managed to take significant liquidity above 1200 ?
[2017-03-11 17:32:39] Dynamix : /rekt
[2017-03-11 17:32:39] trollbot : ``` 3 recent REKTs > 100K: ``` ``` 8 hours, 35 mins ago: Liquidated short on `XBTH17`: buy 235337 @ 1196.58 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire: ``` ``` 19 hours, 20 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBCH17`: sell 235620 @ 7605.8 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire: ``` ``` 20 hours, 27 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 250000 @ 1167.02 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire: ```
[2017-03-11 17:32:50] Dynamix : Damn .....
[2017-03-11 17:36:52] vgck : Within half an hour? Who's getting rekt so big right now?
[2017-03-11 17:41:27] shiroe : /price
[2017-03-11 17:41:30] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1181.35 (-0.04%) Bitfinex : 1179.90 (-0.26%) The Woodchipper : 1188.08 (0.00%) itBit : 1183.18 (-0.12%) Kraken : 1178.44 (0.17%) GDAX : 1191.18 (-0.40%) SLQ : 1 hour, 52 mins```
[2017-03-11 17:44:25] mdsmm : /sentiment
[2017-03-11 17:44:27] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 63.85 / 36.16 Daily : 48.78 / 51.22 Weekly : 50.79 / 49.21 Monthly : 50.05 / 49.95```
[2017-03-11 17:45:24] KyllingLolsson : all in short
[2017-03-11 17:46:36] KyllingLolsson : sorrid sinakku
[2017-03-11 17:48:33] Dynamix : You guys thinking this could drop ?
[2017-03-11 17:48:49] KyllingLolsson : yup
[2017-03-11 17:48:51] KyllingLolsson : yell yup
[2017-03-11 17:49:10] Dynamix : Lol, anyone else ? :D
[2017-03-11 17:49:14] KyllingLolsson : https://www.tradingview.com/x/Sc10RPq4/
[2017-03-11 17:49:18] KyllingLolsson : dis chart
[2017-03-11 17:49:21] Dynamix : idk but I think it will go up
[2017-03-11 17:49:23] Dynamix : or fk knows
[2017-03-11 17:49:47] sleger : is there any story behind dash rise ?
[2017-03-11 17:49:49] KyllingLolsson : also this one https://www.tradingview.com/x/HAJ6SYER/
[2017-03-11 17:49:58] sleger : tempted to short it
[2017-03-11 17:50:03] KyllingLolsson : Dynamix: just set a tight stop
[2017-03-11 17:50:04] Heyya : /sentiment
[2017-03-11 17:50:07] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 57.82 / 42.18 Daily : 48.77 / 51.24 Weekly : 50.79 / 49.21 Monthly : 50.05 / 49.95```
[2017-03-11 17:50:09] Dynamix : Myh
[2017-03-11 17:50:37] Dynamix : Its getting tight around here ;)
[2017-03-11 17:50:45] mdsmm : up up up
[2017-03-11 17:50:48] sleger : ETH ATH
[2017-03-11 17:51:12] Dynamix : sleger: Shortt ?D:
[2017-03-11 17:51:16] KyllingLolsson : My stop is at 1200 xbth17
[2017-03-11 17:51:33] mdsmm : 1195 here
[2017-03-11 17:52:10] KyllingLolsson : my buy limit... hm guess i'll get ADL'd as yesterday :P 400% profuit'
[2017-03-11 17:53:59] rasdasd : this shit of dash is imposible to trade here
[2017-03-11 17:54:10] rasdasd : spread is too big
[2017-03-11 17:54:15] KyllingLolsson : rasdasd: limit buy
[2017-03-11 17:54:21] KyllingLolsson : or limit sell
[2017-03-11 17:54:32] KyllingLolsson : and just move the limit bit by bit
[2017-03-11 17:55:43] rasdasd : KyllingLolsson: bot is on dash
[2017-03-11 17:55:55] KyllingLolsson : Never traded with a bot¨
[2017-03-11 17:56:05] KyllingLolsson : they're fast but... stupid right?
[2017-03-11 17:56:19] shiroe : another 100 KO soon
[2017-03-11 17:56:23] Dynamix : Eth maybe gonna go to 0.02 :D
[2017-03-11 18:01:01] Dynamix : Go eth hehe
[2017-03-11 18:01:48] sleger : hey maybe i'll make back my loss in < 24 hours then
[2017-03-11 18:07:24] sleger : I asked in polo trollbox how much it would cost me to ban a mod for an hour. They didnt like it
[2017-03-11 18:08:13] Apocalyptic : sleger: finally banned ?
[2017-03-11 18:08:16] sleger : no
[2017-03-11 18:08:23] sleger : "please do not start that spam"
[2017-03-11 18:08:52] sleger : I replied that I did not care I was un-banable
[2017-03-11 18:08:54] sleger : no reply
[2017-03-11 18:09:07] Apocalyptic : pretty much sums it up
[2017-03-11 18:09:45] thomaskikansha : that 4K bid on ETH futures
[2017-03-11 18:10:30] etoque : eth will be 30
[2017-03-11 18:10:34] sleger : thomaskikansha: its big ?
[2017-03-11 18:10:49] Tetsuo : etoque: +1 probably more
[2017-03-11 18:11:02] sleger : 30 btc/eth ?
[2017-03-11 18:11:20] sleger : 30 ten dollar bills ?
[2017-03-11 18:11:42] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 61000 @ 1180.24 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2017-03-11 18:13:03] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 110 @ 1176.09
[2017-03-11 18:13:08] bingbongfly : wuut
[2017-03-11 18:13:39] sleger : people selling their btc to buy eth...
[2017-03-11 18:14:11] Tetsuo : ^true story
[2017-03-11 18:14:13] mendax090 : The flippening!
[2017-03-11 18:14:50] sleger : small 500btc wall on polo then pretty empty
[2017-03-11 18:15:02] Aegis : bitcoin dumping soon
[2017-03-11 18:15:08] Aegis : and ETH will do a breakout
[2017-03-11 18:15:09] Tetsuo : New ATH (USD ) this weekend!
[2017-03-11 18:15:10] Aegis : nice one :D
[2017-03-11 18:15:11] etoque : eth chart is so good compare to btc after all lol
[2017-03-11 18:15:11] Tetsuo : ETH
[2017-03-11 18:15:35] shiroe : Bleed it out ~
[2017-03-11 18:15:47] bingbongfly : Tetsuo: Euro kraken is already on ATH! :D
[2017-03-11 18:16:02] Tetsuo : bingbongfly: oh didn´t notice, great!
[2017-03-11 18:19:32] etoque : scooping those eth at margin before skyrocket
[2017-03-11 18:19:50] etoque : hope I'll make all my loss back
[2017-03-11 18:23:46] Gordex : big dump incoming?
[2017-03-11 18:24:40] MikeHunt : either a double bottom or continued dump fest
[2017-03-11 18:25:02] cryptoyolo : why would btc dump now
[2017-03-11 18:25:03] bingbongfly : etd pump and dump
[2017-03-11 18:25:13] bingbongfly : or something greater in effect?
[2017-03-11 18:25:19] Apocalyptic : cryptoyolo: cause you're long obv
[2017-03-11 18:25:25] bingbongfly : the bid side is stacked pretty big here on ETH
[2017-03-11 18:29:43] Actualiteit : /wall
[2017-03-11 18:29:46] trollbot : ``` ±$10 Bid|Ask liq : (2 hours, 19 mins) $1613K (-11.64%) | $1801K (129.30%) ```
[2017-03-11 18:30:19] KyllingLolsson : /sentiment
[2017-03-11 18:30:22] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 74.91 / 25.10 Daily : 48.65 / 51.35 Weekly : 50.85 / 49.15 Monthly : 50.06 / 49.94```
[2017-03-11 18:32:13] mendax090 : Short BTC, Long ETH!
[2017-03-11 18:33:21] KyllingLolsson : Dump any moment...
[2017-03-11 18:33:42] Blemo : is the profit indicator on my chart the profit if i were to sell at market price?
[2017-03-11 18:34:06] herpinator : no its profit if you were to sell at the present mark price
[2017-03-11 18:34:53] Blemo : yea thats what i mean
[2017-03-11 18:35:29] cryptoyolo : Apocalyptic: im out of this lol
[2017-03-11 18:35:51] Blemo : so if isold at market price id get what the profit indicator tells me
[2017-03-11 18:35:59] herpinator : no
[2017-03-11 18:36:10] Blemo : im confused lol
[2017-03-11 18:36:21] herpinator : if you sold at the mark price of the asset you would get what its saying
[2017-03-11 18:36:51] herpinator : the market price here is not necessarily the mark price of the asset
[2017-03-11 18:36:51] Blemo : whats the difference between the mark price and the market price?
[2017-03-11 18:37:04] Blemo : i c
[2017-03-11 18:37:09] Blemo : ok well thanks
[2017-03-11 18:37:13] Blemo : i kind if get it lol
[2017-03-11 18:38:13] herpinator : you'll understand everything after a short while of trading don't worry just don't go high leverage unless you want to pay to learn hehe
[2017-03-11 18:41:22] Blemo : loool ok thanks again
[2017-03-11 18:41:27] Blemo : should i use cross or no?
[2017-03-11 18:42:05] herpinator : I use isolated leverage
[2017-03-11 18:42:22] Blemo : any particular reason?
[2017-03-11 18:43:15] herpinator : so I can see clearly how much breathing room I have and have a stable liq pprice
[2017-03-11 18:43:19] herpinator : really its preference
[2017-03-11 18:44:21] Blemo : ok true il try out both i guess see wat i like
[2017-03-11 18:44:25] BarefootFlash : Blemo: I'd keep it at like no more than 5 or 10x to start with, and only use $5-10 at a time, until you get the feel for it.
[2017-03-11 18:44:33] herpinator : ^
[2017-03-11 18:44:50] herpinator : even 10x I try to avoid
[2017-03-11 18:45:21] BarefootFlash : Mos def. Lower is better for starting out
[2017-03-11 18:46:49] Apocalyptic : that 2 contract robot on swap is annoying
[2017-03-11 18:47:33] herpinator : low fund exposure is key it gives you options if you enter a bad position to average it out or delever it, sure we all want insane gains with high leverage but get margin called once or twice and ones opinions change, I think nearly all of us here learnt this first hand
[2017-03-11 18:47:33] KyllingLolsson : Breakout or if not, sideways
[2017-03-11 18:47:48] KyllingLolsson : /sentiment
[2017-03-11 18:47:51] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 67.73 / 32.28 Daily : 48.63 / 51.37 Weekly : 50.88 / 49.12 Monthly : 50.05 / 49.95```
[2017-03-11 18:47:58] BarefootFlash : herpinator: Haha, yes.
[2017-03-11 18:48:58] KyllingLolsson : Moment of doom
[2017-03-11 18:49:33] Dnavid : Just went short @10x
[2017-03-11 18:49:46] Gr33d : short 100x lel
[2017-03-11 18:49:46] KyllingLolsson : Dnavid: +1
[2017-03-11 18:49:53] Gr33d : 1180
[2017-03-11 18:49:59] herpinator : im short too right now
[2017-03-11 18:50:07] KyllingLolsson : Shorts
[2017-03-11 18:50:08] Dnavid : 1182
[2017-03-11 18:50:18] KyllingLolsson : /price
[2017-03-11 18:50:22] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1174.01 (-0.62%) Bitfinex : 1171.00 (-0.75%) The Woodchipper : 1184.40 (-0.31%) itBit : 1178.72 (-0.38%) Kraken : 1168.77 (-0.82%) GDAX : 1185.12 (-0.51%) SLQ : 1 hour, 8 mins```
[2017-03-11 18:51:26] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 100 @ 1178.57
[2017-03-11 18:52:06] KyllingLolsson : Here comes rekt again
[2017-03-11 18:52:15] KyllingLolsson : Hello old friend
[2017-03-11 18:52:53] Blemo : thanks fr the info guys
[2017-03-11 18:53:01] Apocalyptic : feels like it's dropping in slow motion
[2017-03-11 18:53:03] Blemo : ;)
[2017-03-11 18:53:12] Blemo : yea this is annoying lol
[2017-03-11 18:53:18] Dnavid : Anyone: How long can we keep a short? Indefinitely?
[2017-03-11 18:53:30] MikeHunt : Dnavid: until rekt visits you
[2017-03-11 18:53:40] herpinator : after yesterday even a normal volatile day would seem like nothing, was crazy yesterday I loved it
[2017-03-11 18:54:15] MikeHunt : herpinator: many people died yesterday
[2017-03-11 18:54:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `DASH7D`: buy 30 @ 0.054014
[2017-03-11 18:54:40] Apocalyptic : Dnavid: depends on the contract
[2017-03-11 18:54:59] Apocalyptic : on swap it's as long as you like, on futures it settles at specific dates
[2017-03-11 18:55:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `DASH7D`: buy 52 @ 0.056180
[2017-03-11 18:55:04] herpinator : MikeHunt: yes I did feel sorry for all those who realized losses but I personally did well
[2017-03-11 18:55:14] Apocalyptic : so you are closed @settlement price, see contract specs
[2017-03-11 18:56:48] huminahhuminahuminah : hey guys, a question about Alts. Since they're all quoted in BTC, if BTC moves 'x'%, wouldn't they also all move 'x'% in the opposite way?
[2017-03-11 18:56:59] kurkudu : herpinator: how u can feel sorry for someone's losses if its your profit?
[2017-03-11 18:57:55] etoque : eth should go up not down
[2017-03-11 18:58:07] MikeHunt : kurkudu: some people got totally rekt, thats sad
[2017-03-11 18:58:14] Dnavid : ok I think I'm in swap. Apocalyptic: thanks. MikeHunt: reeekkttt
[2017-03-11 18:58:21] herpinator : kurkudu: empathy
[2017-03-11 18:58:26] mendax090 : huminahhuminahuminah: Yes, they are negatively correlated but is not a perfect negative correlation
[2017-03-11 18:58:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: sell 40 @ 0.017550
[2017-03-11 18:59:18] mendax090 : huminahhuminahuminah: you can actually calculate how correlated they are by using excel
[2017-03-11 18:59:40] KyllingLolsson : /sentiment
[2017-03-11 18:59:42] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 75.23 / 24.77 Daily : 48.93 / 51.07 Weekly : 50.93 / 49.07 Monthly : 50.05 / 49.95```
[2017-03-11 19:00:00] huminahhuminahuminah : mendax090: thanks! So would one consider that any move other than 'x' be the absolute move in the ALT? E.g., BTC up 10%, ALT is only down 5%, you can infer that there are generally positive sentiments about that ALT.
[2017-03-11 19:01:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTH17`: buy 20000 @ 1180.08
[2017-03-11 19:02:08] mendax090 : huminahhuminahuminah: Yes, look, this is a correlation matrix I did myself for some alts.. http://imgur.com/a/FzXfG
[2017-03-11 19:02:55] kurkudu : sound cynically to say i feel sorry to someone who you took its money)
[2017-03-11 19:02:56] mendax090 : huminahhuminahuminah: ETH and BTC for example, their level of correlation is -0.41; -1 being a perfect negative correlation
[2017-03-11 19:03:57] huminahhuminahuminah : mendax090: appreciate it. How did you determine those? Market cap comparisons? If so, over what period of time?
[2017-03-11 19:04:41] Apocalyptic : huminahhuminahuminah: why would you compare market caps ? it's meaningless with coins having different inflation schedules
[2017-03-11 19:05:05] Apocalyptic : comparing the prices in USD is what comes to mind
[2017-03-11 19:06:11] mendax090 : huminahhuminahuminah: Last 6 months historical prices in BTC
[2017-03-11 19:06:14] huminahhuminahuminah : I'm relatively new to this, it's just what I thought of. Prices in USD vs Market caps is the same thing if you're comparing coins vs each other.
[2017-03-11 19:06:24] huminahhuminahuminah : is it not?
[2017-03-11 19:07:08] Apocalyptic : do you know what market cap is ?
[2017-03-11 19:07:40] Apocalyptic : traditionally it's not used for currencies but for assets like stocks
[2017-03-11 19:07:54] Apocalyptic : it defined as market price * outstanding shares
[2017-03-11 19:08:35] Apocalyptic : in crypto they replace outstanding shares by total number of coins in circulation
[2017-03-11 19:09:11] Apocalyptic : so if the numbers of coins is the same in the sample, you can't use it to compare much
[2017-03-11 19:09:18] Apocalyptic : *is not
[2017-03-11 19:11:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: sell 100 @ 0.017240
[2017-03-11 19:11:47] huminahhuminahuminah : Apocalyptic: thanks, I do know what market cap is. Using your example, you're saying that if the number of shares in a company aren't the same as another company that you're trying to compare it to, you couldn't compare market caps. that's clearly not true.
[2017-03-11 19:12:44] mendax090 : Doing a correlation with market caps would be the same than doing a correlation with historical prices I believe
[2017-03-11 19:13:03] Apocalyptic : mendax090: how so ?
[2017-03-11 19:13:18] Apocalyptic : huminahhuminahuminah: you didn't get what I'm saying
[2017-03-11 19:13:35] Apocalyptic : your comparison makes sense, but it's not the same as comparing USD prices for coins
[2017-03-11 19:14:09] Apocalyptic : mendax090: try doing it for BTC and a coin with a dramatically different emission model
[2017-03-11 19:14:12] Apocalyptic : like say ZEC
[2017-03-11 19:14:20] Apocalyptic : and you will see
[2017-03-11 19:14:41] KyllingLolsson : /sentiment
[2017-03-11 19:14:44] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 70.47 / 29.53 Daily : 48.93 / 51.07 Weekly : 50.91 / 49.09 Monthly : 50.04 / 49.96```
[2017-03-11 19:15:11] mendax090 : Is not that difficult.. If today BTC's market cap went up 2%, how did ZEC's market cap move?.. And you just keep doing it that for every day
[2017-03-11 19:15:39] shiroe : /price
[2017-03-11 19:15:46] mendax090 : You'd get a level of correlation but I'm not sure how useful that'd be, I prefer using correlation for prices in BTC
[2017-03-11 19:15:54] Apocalyptic : mendax090: dude just look at ZEC price vs its market cap in the first day
[2017-03-11 19:15:59] Apocalyptic : you can't say it's correlated
[2017-03-11 19:16:26] mendax090 : What is not correlated?
[2017-03-11 19:16:27] hmmmYea : /price
[2017-03-11 19:16:32] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1178.32 (0.37%) Bitfinex : 1179.00 (0.68%) The Woodchipper : 1185.00 (0.05%) itBit : 1181.47 (0.23%) Kraken : 1175.00 (0.53%) GDAX : 1187.19 (0.17%) SLQ : 26 mins```
[2017-03-11 19:16:33] mendax090 : I'm not sure I understand your question
[2017-03-11 19:16:40] Apocalyptic : ZEC price in USD or BTC and its market cap
[2017-03-11 19:16:42] etoque : stop selling eth LOL
[2017-03-11 19:16:43] huminahhuminahuminah : Apocalyptic: So I think your point about coin emissions / mining has some merit. Obviously if there's a bunch of new blocks coming onto the market, that's going to have an impact. But so is BTC price if that's what it's quoted in.
[2017-03-11 19:16:52] etoque : no more wall ETH going sirectly +0.02
[2017-03-11 19:17:10] Apocalyptic : "Obviously if there's a bunch of new blocks coming onto the market, that's going to have an impact" yes you get it
[2017-03-11 19:17:13] mendax090 : Apocalyptic: Of course it is
[2017-03-11 19:17:27] Apocalyptic : market cap will increase without the price obviously moving to reflect that
[2017-03-11 19:17:28] mendax090 : The more coins out there, the less the price
[2017-03-11 19:17:49] Apocalyptic : mendax090: really ?
[2017-03-11 19:17:57] Apocalyptic : take a look at XMR
[2017-03-11 19:18:05] Apocalyptic : more coins strictly over time
[2017-03-11 19:18:13] Apocalyptic : and the price is... not decreasing!
[2017-03-11 19:18:23] Apocalyptic : seriously you can't be that dumb
[2017-03-11 19:18:36] mendax090 : That doesn't mean there is not a negative correlation
[2017-03-11 19:19:05] mendax090 : The more money you print, the less it will be worth
[2017-03-11 19:19:09] Apocalyptic : of so now the correlation between market cap and price is negative ?
[2017-03-11 19:19:24] Apocalyptic : you were saying it's the same for comparison, that means a correlation close to 1
[2017-03-11 19:19:33] Apocalyptic : make up your mind already
[2017-03-11 19:19:56] mendax090 : I don't really get what you are asking
[2017-03-11 19:20:01] mendax090 : You can use correlation levels using market caps or prices
[2017-03-11 19:20:18] mendax090 : Both are useful, tells you different things
[2017-03-11 19:24:52] Apocalyptic : nevermind
[2017-03-11 19:25:09] Apocalyptic : if only you took the time to graph the exemple above you would see
[2017-03-11 19:27:15] Blemo : would someone be able to help me understand why someone would use xbth17 instead of xbtusd?
[2017-03-11 19:27:51] Tetsuo : Blemo: no funding fees
[2017-03-11 19:27:53] Apocalyptic : Blemo: no funding fees
[2017-03-11 19:27:54] herpinator : I use h17 sometimes because of funding on the swap also books tend to be thinner so its better for my stratergy
[2017-03-11 19:28:19] Blemo : so its better for like day trading?
[2017-03-11 19:28:28] Blemo : thanks btw
[2017-03-11 19:28:36] herpinator : seems to me more MM on h17 now though
[2017-03-11 19:28:58] Blemo : im new, whats MM>
[2017-03-11 19:29:01] Blemo : ?*
[2017-03-11 19:29:25] Apocalyptic : herpinator: I believe they are more MMs on swap than h17
[2017-03-11 19:29:32] Apocalyptic : *there
[2017-03-11 19:29:38] herpinator : yeh thats gotta be true
[2017-03-11 19:29:50] herpinator : sometimes the books are really thin on h17 compared
[2017-03-11 19:29:59] herpinator : mm - market makers @Blemo
[2017-03-11 19:30:13] Blemo : ahhh lol i shouldve guessed thankls agn
[2017-03-11 19:36:27] Ahhere : MBGA guise
[2017-03-11 19:40:00] huminahhuminahuminah : Apocalyptic: so you don't think there's a correlation between ALTs and BTC despite being quoted in BTC?
[2017-03-11 19:40:18] Apocalyptic : I never said that
[2017-03-11 19:40:27] huminahhuminahuminah : So how would you go figuring that out?
[2017-03-11 19:40:51] Apocalyptic : my argument was against the statement that comparing BTC and ALT prices in USD and comparing their market caps yields the same analysis
[2017-03-11 19:41:13] Apocalyptic : that's an exercise for you :)
[2017-03-11 19:41:36] huminahhuminahuminah : My question is: how would you go about determining correlation between ALTS and BTC, since they're quoted in BTC?
[2017-03-11 19:42:13] Apocalyptic : huminahhuminahuminah: take their price in USD ?
[2017-03-11 19:43:14] tintin : question about the calculator. if i buy 1 contract at 1178 and the price falls down to 1100 and i use the calculator to see what the liquidation price is, if i buy 2 more contracts (so that i have 3 all in all) will the calculator take the first contract i bought into account? (with cross selected of course)
[2017-03-11 19:43:18] huminahhuminahuminah : That's retarded. That's like comparing Apple's share price and Teslas share price and saying Tesla is more expensive.
[2017-03-11 19:43:51] huminahhuminahuminah : market cap and relative price moves are the only way.
[2017-03-11 19:44:09] huminahhuminahuminah : and, sure, coin emissions.
[2017-03-11 19:44:32] j8 : when people say correlation they're talking about relative price moves
[2017-03-11 19:47:18] kurkudu : huminahhuminahuminah: dont make it so complicated, just go all in with 100x on any instrument you like
[2017-03-11 19:48:22] huminahhuminahuminah : kurkudu: only way to make money :)
[2017-03-11 19:49:30] kurkudu : huminahhuminahuminah: exactly) and in case if you loose, half of the trollbox will share your pain and feel sorry for your losses)))
[2017-03-11 19:49:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `DASH7D`: sell 55 @ 0.054769
[2017-03-11 19:50:01] huminahhuminahuminah : kurkudu: I never lose.
[2017-03-11 19:50:10] huminahhuminahuminah : lmao
[2017-03-11 19:50:22] tintin : never mind about the calculator. found my answer.
[2017-03-11 19:50:33] tintin : any devs here? i have a feature request
[2017-03-11 19:50:58] huminahhuminahuminah : u guys ever switch over to chinese? They seems like they're actually sharing trades there. Or might be hooks for da fish.
[2017-03-11 19:51:31] kurkudu : huminahhuminahuminah: than you can feel sory for someone else losses when you take their money as your profit
[2017-03-11 19:54:02] _nyg : Hello, how is the liq price computed in cross mode? I can't find the formula in References...
[2017-03-11 19:56:01] sleger : _nyg: its the price when margin assigned to position = maintenance margin
[2017-03-11 19:57:17] cryptoyolo : U BETTER BUY BTC GOIN TO THE MOOON
[2017-03-11 19:57:20] cryptoyolo : ops... sorry caps
[2017-03-11 19:58:34] Ahhere : cryptoyolo: ~10 hours hovering at ath. What does it mean?? I THINK YOU KNOW!
[2017-03-11 19:58:35] shiroe : downtrend, too visible.
[2017-03-11 19:59:12] Ahhere : *old ath
[2017-03-11 20:00:19] -_- : DASH got some monster buy walls
[2017-03-11 20:01:01] -_- : want to long at 0.05 now. plz dump
[2017-03-11 20:01:17] cryptoyolo : Ahhere: YES !! breakout!
[2017-03-11 20:01:33] -_- : DASH shorters gonna get blown the fuck out when this hits 0.1 next week
[2017-03-11 20:01:55] cryptoyolo : dude, after all btcs recoveries it is pretty ballsy so bet against it
[2017-03-11 20:02:33] cryptoyolo : nevertheless, im always hodling. Trading with leverage with 4% of account
[2017-03-11 20:02:34] REKT : Liquidated short on `DASH7D`: buy 35 @ 0.056620
[2017-03-11 20:04:36] -_- : i'm watching for DASH whale to take down all buy walls and market dump price way low but i dont think they are done selling or want to kill the coin just yet
[2017-03-11 20:05:33] jphamer1 : some big money cowboys getting in dash or what
[2017-03-11 20:06:15] -_- : how do big dash shorters get out on here
[2017-03-11 20:06:59] hmmmYea : -_-: i will sellto them when i like their bid
[2017-03-11 20:07:42] -_- : everyone buying to be a master node. it's the 2017 cool thing to do
[2017-03-11 20:08:29] -_- : lol DASH
[2017-03-11 20:08:31] -_- : big short close