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[2015-11-18 04:03:56] zanza : when BTC is $300k, thats like $5,100
[2015-11-18 04:07:15] rapidtrades : hey why can't we access the interface without logging in?
[2015-11-18 04:07:36] rapidtrades : charts and orderbook can't be seen anymore
[2015-11-18 04:08:08] zanza : thats how it always was?
[2015-11-18 04:08:30] rapidtrades : nope
[2015-11-18 04:08:57] zanza : when wasn't it like that , that you remember ?
[2015-11-18 04:09:16] rapidtrades : yesterday
[2015-11-18 04:09:43] rapidtrades : this link specifically https://www.bitmex.com/app/
[2015-11-18 04:10:12] laisee : not for me, have needed to login for that data since ... months ago?
[2015-11-18 04:10:32] rapidtrades : that's weird, are u sure?
[2015-11-18 04:14:14] ethexio : Whoa
[2015-11-18 04:15:01] BitMEX_Wally : rapidtrades: We're fixing this
[2015-11-18 04:15:21] rapidtrades : okay tnx
[2015-11-18 04:21:33] podizzler3000 : remember when btc dropped to 2117cny and then bounced back to 2121 over the next hour? crazy times, man
[2015-11-18 04:22:53] laisee : pod> massive moves. mad volume
[2015-11-18 04:26:10] BitMEX_Sam : Thanks rapidtrades, you can now view the dash without logging in again
[2015-11-18 04:27:19] ethexio : BitMEX_Sam: I see API announcement mentions Coingiy and HaasBot but neither support BitMex (yet).
[2015-11-18 04:27:57] BitMEX_Sam : ethexio: https://www.haasonline.com/latest-news/haasbot-2-3-beta-build-7-is-now-available/
[2015-11-18 04:28:14] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : BitMEX_Sam: Orderbook grouping is very nice. Thanks!
[2015-11-18 04:28:36] BitMEX_Sam : Coinigy will be up in the next day or two, we've also integrated an SSO solution with them
[2015-11-18 04:28:59] BitMEX_Sam : So getting your account paired with Coinigy is just a few clicks
[2015-11-18 04:29:07] ethexio : BitMEX_Sam: Nice. That's what Coinigy guy was saying, thought this might be the day.
[2015-11-18 04:29:17] BitMEX_Sam : Any day now :) thought it would be today too
[2015-11-18 04:29:25] ethexio : Awesome it's coming along, nice work!
[2015-11-18 04:31:36] zanza : can Coinigy do trading strategies?
[2015-11-18 04:32:51] BitMEX_Sam : I don't believe so, it does pretty comprehensive price alerts though which are quite useful
[2015-11-18 04:36:29] ethexio : Coinigy is nice to have all of your used exchanges in one place.
[2015-11-18 04:36:57] ethexio : Reading Haasbot reviews, wondering how it is.
[2015-11-18 04:41:54] podizzler3000 : huobi starting to stack up buys
[2015-11-18 04:42:01] podizzler3000 : could see a little run to the 2050 wall
[2015-11-18 04:43:21] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : podizzler3000: 2050?
[2015-11-18 04:44:40] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : podizzler3000: 2150?
[2015-11-18 04:48:21] rapidtrades : I have a hard time figuring out how to hedge or arbitrage with these contracts ...any calculators I can use
[2015-11-18 04:50:16] j8 : rapidtrades: just the PNL calculator which doesn't help a lot, i can point you to some formulas if that helps
[2015-11-18 04:50:52] rapidtrades : can I put them in excel? wheres' the pnl calc
[2015-11-18 04:51:34] j8 : PNL calculator is under Order Options
[2015-11-18 04:51:38] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : rapidtrades: The PNL calculator is under Order Options in the order controls
[2015-11-18 04:51:42] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : j8: Beat me to it
[2015-11-18 04:51:47] j8 : ha
[2015-11-18 04:51:59] rapidtrades : ah tnx
[2015-11-18 04:52:02] j8 : rapidtrades: there is actually a BitMEX excel plugin
[2015-11-18 04:53:00] j8 : which pulls data from the api. but you could just put numbers and formulas in to get a sense
[2015-11-18 04:53:11] j8 : rapidtrades: https://blog.bitmex.com/cash-and-carry-arbitrage-with-bitmex-futures/
[2015-11-18 04:54:03] rapidtrades : tnx that looks helpful, I'll go over it
[2015-11-18 05:01:42] Murch : good guide, Arthur is very smart
[2015-11-18 05:02:22] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: Hey! Good to see you
[2015-11-18 05:02:48] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Wasn't sure if you were coming back
[2015-11-18 05:08:49] kingscrown : whos reads http://fuk.io blog ?
[2015-11-18 05:13:38] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : kingscrown: That would be your blog, and I would guess people read it when they are looking for referral links
[2015-11-18 05:28:26] AudibleScience : hey hey
[2015-11-18 05:28:41] AudibleScience : good morning everyone
[2015-11-18 05:28:48] Floopy : hi
[2015-11-18 05:29:00] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : AudibleScience: Good morning!
[2015-11-18 05:29:05] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Floopy: Are you floopfloop?
[2015-11-18 05:29:17] Floopy : i think we reached the bottom guys
[2015-11-18 05:29:26] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Guess not :p
[2015-11-18 05:29:40] Floopy : im going lomg 10x
[2015-11-18 05:30:28] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Now I can't tell
[2015-11-18 05:32:09] podizzler3000 : thank god that floopfloop guy is gone
[2015-11-18 05:33:16] AudibleScience : I think it's going lower...
[2015-11-18 05:33:49] podizzler3000 : haha
[2015-11-18 05:33:57] podizzler3000 : ya think
[2015-11-18 05:34:36] podizzler3000 : to the dumpers https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_03zn8Vq6iw
[2015-11-18 05:35:01] AudibleScience : now it could be at the bottom...
[2015-11-18 05:35:52] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : podizzler3000: Did he leave permanently?
[2015-11-18 05:35:58] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : floopfloop I mean
[2015-11-18 05:37:44] AudibleScience : is something happening today!?
[2015-11-18 05:38:11] AudibleScience : how come it's been so flat for ages?
[2015-11-18 05:39:36] podizzler3000 : audiblescience dunno but im pretty sure theres still 4000 or whatever btc being mined each day
[2015-11-18 05:39:37] AudibleScience : how come there's only 77 traders in the trollbox too!?
[2015-11-18 05:39:48] podizzler3000 : so someones got to hold the price up against those dumps
[2015-11-18 05:40:01] Floopy : dpe > dump
[2015-11-18 05:41:54] zanza : i dont understand why 24H price is negative
[2015-11-18 05:42:14] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : zanza: bearish outlook?
[2015-11-18 05:42:29] podizzler3000 : zanza consensus sentiment believes its going down
[2015-11-18 05:42:46] podizzler3000 : scaredy cats ;)
[2015-11-18 05:42:56] podizzler3000 : $1.3M to support miner dumps daily
[2015-11-18 05:43:03] podizzler3000 : just to keep the price sideways
[2015-11-18 05:44:17] laisee : because floopy lost 98% of his rent money this week
[2015-11-18 05:44:34] laisee : leading to -ve sentiment
[2015-11-18 05:45:30] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : laisee: Wow. It was kind of a miracle he remained solvent for as long as he did, randomly shorting tens of thousands of contracts
[2015-11-18 05:46:00] zanza : Murch: hi
[2015-11-18 05:46:08] laisee : spending his parents rent money ...
[2015-11-18 05:46:49] AudibleScience : podizzler3000: sure that's a fair point... but it's not new situation...
[2015-11-18 05:48:03] AudibleScience : * a new situation... to make the price do this!
[2015-11-18 05:48:43] AudibleScience : also what happened to the premium?
[2015-11-18 05:49:06] laisee : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: > true - hoping he comes back once he's managed to collect & sell some cans or get lucky on satoshidice.
[2015-11-18 05:49:07] podizzler3000 : well its not sideways anymore
[2015-11-18 05:49:27] podizzler3000 : haha poor floopz
[2015-11-18 05:50:14] laisee : he's right ... late
[2015-11-18 05:50:20] zanza : LIQUIDATION TIME
[2015-11-18 05:51:14] laisee : bounce time
[2015-11-18 05:51:37] AudibleScience : laisee: you best me to it...
[2015-11-18 05:52:38] AudibleScience : I was just thinking the same thing... but maybe not...
[2015-11-18 05:52:42] laisee : it's buying time again ...
[2015-11-18 05:53:38] zanza : anyone see that 24H liquidation?
[2015-11-18 05:53:42] zanza : was like 9k
[2015-11-18 05:53:46] laisee : wish that bot would change its QTY, don't like buying/selling 13 of anything ...
[2015-11-18 05:54:29] AudibleScience : laisee: lol
[2015-11-18 05:54:39] zanza : yeah, BitMEX could change their order size by 10x magnitude i woudn't mind
[2015-11-18 05:54:49] zanza : 1000 old = 100 new
[2015-11-18 05:57:17] AudibleScience : laisee: years ago we had a hotel and it did not have a room 13 lol
[2015-11-18 05:58:52] AudibleScience : that 13 bot and the bot that spams the orderbook with orders of 1 bugs me too though...
[2015-11-18 06:00:17] miratrader : that's why no one can make any money, the tape is full of 13s
[2015-11-18 06:01:29] billyboy402 : podizzler3000: 3200 bitc are mine per day . 25 - 10 min x 6 per hour x 24 ho0urs
[2015-11-18 06:01:53] billyboy402 : 3600
[2015-11-18 06:02:14] AudibleScience : miratrader: what do you mean by "the tape"
[2015-11-18 06:02:37] miratrader : sorry, traders talk. it's the list of trades
[2015-11-18 06:02:58] miratrader : recent trades panel
[2015-11-18 06:03:48] j8 : i think that's lockhedge with the 13's blame him
[2015-11-18 06:04:50] miratrader : http://www.investopedia.com/terms/t/tickertape.asp
[2015-11-18 06:07:15] AudibleScience : j8: aha, cheers man! good to know! I'll have to ask him why he does that next time he's here.
[2015-11-18 06:07:46] podizzler3000 : billyboy except for the fact that a block isnt found exactly 15 minutes
[2015-11-18 06:07:49] podizzler3000 : ole billy boy
[2015-11-18 06:07:49] miratrader : it's not lockhedge, it's mcmix
[2015-11-18 06:08:21] miratrader : * micmix
[2015-11-18 06:08:23] j8 : ah
[2015-11-18 06:08:23] podizzler3000 : err 10 minutes
[2015-11-18 06:08:43] podizzler3000 : but yeah i think it was around 3700 yesterrday
[2015-11-18 06:08:48] podizzler3000 : so no need to pick at straws
[2015-11-18 06:09:12] miratrader : I'll tell him to change it to 14, one sec
[2015-11-18 06:09:42] AudibleScience : miratrader: yeah man... it's just that the ticker tape here is at the top of the page no?
[2015-11-18 06:12:18] laisee : bouncey bouncey ...
[2015-11-18 06:12:21] AudibleScience : miratrader: why not change it to 100 instead?
[2015-11-18 06:13:22] zanza : AudibleScience: +1
[2015-11-18 06:13:35] zanza : this 13 bot is giving me cancer
[2015-11-18 06:13:40] miratrader : no, not exactly. the ticker tape shows last traded price and tick directon (up/down arrows). we don't have that at the top.
[2015-11-18 06:14:01] zanza : wow
[2015-11-18 06:14:08] zanza : 4k buy?
[2015-11-18 06:14:11] zanza : # market
[2015-11-18 06:14:27] podizzler3000 : hongry buy
[2015-11-18 06:14:34] podizzler3000 : must be flooperz
[2015-11-18 06:14:46] Floopy : i like turtles
[2015-11-18 06:14:57] podizzler3000 : so true
[2015-11-18 06:17:28] AudibleScience : so being a real noob tonight then! what are the turtles?
[2015-11-18 06:17:30] laisee : 14 also not a lucky number. please reconsider.
[2015-11-18 06:17:36] miratrader : no more 13 bot, enjoy :-)
[2015-11-18 06:18:19] miratrader : what's your lucky number? has to be some low number no one would use
[2015-11-18 06:18:33] laisee : 8.888
[2015-11-18 06:19:04] miratrader : well you can't really buy 8.888 contracts, can you?
[2015-11-18 06:20:00] miratrader : or do you mean 8k contracts?
[2015-11-18 06:20:01] laisee : int version would be 9 I guess.
[2015-11-18 06:20:51] miratrader : how about 17? at least it's a prime number
[2015-11-18 06:21:13] laisee : just choose whatever works, I have a personal thing on seeing those same small numbers repeated is all.
[2015-11-18 06:21:31] laisee : a prime feels better.
[2015-11-18 06:21:56] miratrader : well someone posted 13 sell and it's not the bot
[2015-11-18 06:22:19] AudibleScience : Floopy: turtles?
[2015-11-18 06:23:18] AudibleScience : Floopy: are you talking about Dennis and Eckhardt?
[2015-11-18 06:23:38] laisee : 11 and 22 are not bad.
[2015-11-18 06:24:43] AudibleScience : what's the point of posting such small orders at all? I just don't get it?
[2015-11-18 06:26:24] miratrader : it's a test, makes it easy to see on the orderbook and on the recent trades. without going through order history
[2015-11-18 06:26:26] zanza : wow
[2015-11-18 06:26:31] zanza : orderbook grouping?
[2015-11-18 06:26:36] zanza : when did that happen
[2015-11-18 06:27:04] laisee : canary in the trading mine?
[2015-11-18 06:27:10] gouda : today zanza
[2015-11-18 06:27:21] miratrader : yeah, kinda :-)
[2015-11-18 06:27:39] laisee : 17 ... nice
[2015-11-18 06:27:55] zanza : can you manually enter the grouping size?
[2015-11-18 06:27:56] laisee : and its brother 34 ;-)
[2015-11-18 06:28:03] zanza : or is it only .01 / .05
[2015-11-18 06:28:45] miratrader : I see someone was playing with our bot and posting 13 orders too
[2015-11-18 06:29:13] laisee : false canaries ... wall street has arrived
[2015-11-18 06:30:34] miratrader : doesn't matter, we will use trade history for analysis anyway
[2015-11-18 06:33:18] AudibleScience : miratrader: what's the point of bots posting orders like that? I really want to know... can you explain it please man?
[2015-11-18 06:35:17] floopfloop : fckkkkk I missed $330 btcx
[2015-11-18 06:35:44] floopfloop : Floopy: Why you gotta name steal brah
[2015-11-18 06:37:00] Floopy : ??
[2015-11-18 06:37:38] zanza : right when floopfloop comes on, price rises
[2015-11-18 06:37:43] zanza : I think hes bearwhale
[2015-11-18 06:37:47] zanza : or bullwhale
[2015-11-18 06:37:50] miratrader : just testing to make sure the interface to BitMEX works without issues. plus checking how much of the order flow our MM can theoretically capture. small orders because other bots usually don't react to small orders
[2015-11-18 06:39:33] miratrader : so you can test the best case scenario and know that the bot will not capture that much of the orders when quoting bigger sizes
[2015-11-18 06:41:09] zanza : maekes sense
[2015-11-18 06:41:18] zanza : now i understand the point of it
[2015-11-18 06:41:33] gouda : where you been floopflopp
[2015-11-18 06:44:04] AudibleScience : miratrader: ah okay! Thank you man!! so are you testing different strategies too?
[2015-11-18 06:45:18] miratrader : no, it's just a standard market maker for now
[2015-11-18 06:45:45] AudibleScience : I see
[2015-11-18 06:49:36] miratrader : going to bed now, good night all and happy trading!
[2015-11-18 06:49:57] AudibleScience : miratrader: good night man!
[2015-11-18 06:52:08] AudibleScience : so flat again for a while maybe chaps? :(
[2015-11-18 06:54:11] podizzler3000 : looking bearish atm
[2015-11-18 06:56:03] AudibleScience : the volume everywhere seems average again now...
[2015-11-18 06:56:18] AudibleScience : podizzler3000: where are you looking to make you think that man?
[2015-11-18 06:56:41] gouda : yea looks like consolidation
[2015-11-18 06:57:06] gouda : i think will held at these levels and go up thur-fri
[2015-11-18 07:00:06] AudibleScience : gouda: is that a driving factor based projection or technical analysis based?
[2015-11-18 07:01:20] gouda : TA
[2015-11-18 07:01:31] podizzler3000 : audiblescience i just get the sense that gravity is pulling it down atm
[2015-11-18 07:01:40] podizzler3000 : nothing long term just i feel the next move will probably be down
[2015-11-18 07:01:49] podizzler3000 : no big buys all day
[2015-11-18 07:01:52] podizzler3000 : just support
[2015-11-18 07:02:13] podizzler3000 : im still bullish on 7d
[2015-11-18 07:02:16] podizzler3000 : bearish on 24
[2015-11-18 07:12:48] floopfloop : podizzler3000: i went long on both
[2015-11-18 07:14:49] podizzler3000 : floop you ballsy breh
[2015-11-18 07:15:00] podizzler3000 : huobi to save the day
[2015-11-18 07:15:44] floopfloop : podizzler3000: I didnt go crazy this time tho
[2015-11-18 07:26:55] gouda : just 20k vs 30k :D
[2015-11-18 07:35:54] Floopy : this is the bottom
[2015-11-18 07:41:23] gouda : yea
[2015-11-18 07:47:25] ethexio : Aw man, Haasbot doesn't do 24H..
[2015-11-18 07:48:02] ethexio : And it's broken..
[2015-11-18 07:51:38] ethexio : Is that a question?
[2015-11-18 08:00:47] gouda : was that your questions?
[2015-11-18 08:08:44] ethexio : I don't know. Doing too many things at once.
[2015-11-18 08:11:44] kogroken : Oh, OCO orders implemented, thanks Bitmex!
[2015-11-18 08:13:57] kogroken : Oh, nevermind, it was in the coming soon section.
[2015-11-18 09:33:22] kendang : good morning guys
[2015-11-18 09:33:32] kendang : is the user counter still broken?
[2015-11-18 09:33:50] AudibleScience : kendang: good morning
[2015-11-18 09:34:47] Teddy76 : kendang: no, it's fixed
[2015-11-18 09:35:10] Teddy76 : kendang: as Wally told me yesterday
[2015-11-18 09:35:21] kendang : oh 1/3rd of users from normal levels
[2015-11-18 09:35:29] kendang : we were always around 300
[2015-11-18 09:35:46] Teddy76 : same thought ;)
[2015-11-18 09:35:56] Teddy76 : or maybe it was too optimist before ;)
[2015-11-18 09:37:02] kendang : the new order book grouping rules. much less nois
[2015-11-18 09:37:08] kendang : nois
[2015-11-18 09:37:11] kendang : noise
[2015-11-18 09:42:17] TschavaTschigger : "Noise" ©FischerBlack
[2015-11-18 09:48:08] justinlooking : TschavaTschigger: u see my note about ssh being better than vpn earlier?
[2015-11-18 09:50:33] wurstgelee : 99.5% longs/1h @ bfxdata oO
[2015-11-18 10:00:59] habibi : that can be one buy order and about 0.6 btc short, nothing special with this data
[2015-11-18 10:04:25] wurstgelee : u really think there was only one long and one small short in the last hour?
[2015-11-18 10:07:49] wurstgelee : no.
[2015-11-18 10:47:17] habibi : wurstgelee: just look at volumen and see. lood at how many orders were per this hour. does it change if it was 10 small orders and 1 bigger one?
[2015-11-18 12:00:52] TschavaTschigger : justinlooking: no I didn't, and I can't see it in the archive either.. what did you say?
[2015-11-18 12:07:44] justinlooking_ : TschavaTschigger: oh ok - well ur welcome to log onto freenode webchat #bitmex and /msg me... will be back in an hour or so
[2015-11-18 12:08:10] TschavaTschigger : justinlooking_: ill be gone one hour too
[2015-11-18 12:08:17] TschavaTschigger : lets talk later
[2015-11-18 12:08:27] justinlooking_ : kk
[2015-11-18 12:29:29] narc0 : how do i add fucking coins in this mashine
[2015-11-18 12:31:28] podizzler3k : try the slot
[2015-11-18 12:31:47] narc0tic : slot?
[2015-11-18 12:32:04] sleger : slot
[2015-11-18 12:33:20] narc0tic : no idea what do you talking about...
[2015-11-18 12:34:02] sleger : maybe it because is you english no good
[2015-11-18 12:34:43] narc0tic : well you can explain me that a slot is ?
[2015-11-18 12:35:16] kendang : narc0tic: to the left. deposit tab
[2015-11-18 12:35:46] narc0tic : ok qr code in there
[2015-11-18 12:36:15] kendang : narc0tic: and below that is the bitcoin address you can deposit
[2015-11-18 12:36:18] BitMEX_Wally : narc0tic: Go here: https://www.bitmex.com/app/deposit
[2015-11-18 12:36:38] narc0tic : i see
[2015-11-18 12:36:52] narc0tic : now slowly it make sense
[2015-11-18 12:37:59] narc0tic : so where can i buy some of that nice stuff
[2015-11-18 12:38:09] kendang : narc0tic: ?
[2015-11-18 12:38:15] narc0tic : anonymus would be great
[2015-11-18 12:38:32] kendang : narc0tic: where are you located?
[2015-11-18 12:38:42] narc0tic : germany
[2015-11-18 12:38:56] kendang : narc0tic: then you can buy paysafecard
[2015-11-18 12:38:57] sleger : hamburg would be your best bet to buy some of that stuff
[2015-11-18 12:39:18] kendang : narc0tic: but exchange from paysafecard is something like 10% fee
[2015-11-18 12:39:32] narc0tic : i know for example bitcoin .de but they need id cards
[2015-11-18 12:39:52] narc0tic : o.O 10%!!!
[2015-11-18 12:40:23] kendang : narc0tic: yup, that's the price of anonymity
[2015-11-18 12:40:32] kendang : check the prices on localbitcoins.com
[2015-11-18 12:41:06] narc0tic : ok and thats not the hole story where should this paysafe type in?
[2015-11-18 15:58:25] podizzler3k : 2124cny......... such excite
[2015-11-18 16:30:59] sleger : problem with grouping : orders are not yellow colored anymore
[2015-11-18 16:37:40] BitMEX_Sam : Thanks @sleger, will address that
[2015-11-18 18:48:58] TschavaTschigger : trollbox resembles price movement today
[2015-11-18 18:57:12] nickhnt : TschavaTschigger: yea pretty much
[2015-11-18 19:12:24] zanza : 83 users, wasn't it like 240 last week ?
[2015-11-18 19:13:39] BitMEX_Sam : That number was higher than it should have been - some data was stale
[2015-11-18 19:15:33] BitMEX_Sam : But the markets have slowed overall this week
[2015-11-18 19:30:40] TschavaTschigger : open interest only 67k. haven't seen it this low for some time. let's pray for volatility to the bitcoin god
[2015-11-18 19:33:35] zanza : on 24h?
[2015-11-18 19:33:39] zanza : it just reset a few hours ago
[2015-11-18 19:35:19] habibi : TschavaTschigger: wheredo u check it?
[2015-11-18 19:37:28] habibi : nvm found it
[2015-11-18 20:28:01] wurstgelee : oh, are we finally getting some action today?
[2015-11-18 20:45:59] Ugly_Old_Goat : head and shoulders from 11-11 to 11-18
[2015-11-18 20:47:24] Ugly_Old_Goat : and double bottom with second bottom higher than first
[2015-11-18 20:47:54] Ugly_Old_Goat : 3 possibles
[2015-11-18 20:48:13] Ugly_Old_Goat : continue to grind sidewise
[2015-11-18 20:48:32] Ugly_Old_Goat : head back to 400+
[2015-11-18 20:48:49] Ugly_Old_Goat : or break below 300
[2015-11-18 20:48:53] wurstgelee : so youre saying its going up, down or sideways?
[2015-11-18 20:48:55] wurstgelee : :p
[2015-11-18 20:49:22] Ugly_Old_Goat : I am saying to prepare your strategy for each possibiity
[2015-11-18 20:49:51] Ugly_Old_Goat : Managing funds more important than predicting market
[2015-11-18 20:49:58] Ugly_Old_Goat : No one knows
[2015-11-18 20:50:21] Ugly_Old_Goat : But you can know each psssiblity and prepare accordingly
[2015-11-18 21:07:30] clashcitybaron : going to the moon tonight
[2015-11-18 21:07:35] clashcitybaron : dunno who else is joining me
[2015-11-18 21:07:37] clashcitybaron : ┗(°0°)┛
[2015-11-18 21:36:22] gouda : lets dump back to 200's
[2015-11-18 21:36:34] gouda : 200-300 is fun
[2015-11-18 21:36:51] gouda : 400-500 mistakes get costly
[2015-11-18 21:54:26] clashcitybaron : ┗(°0°)┛
[2015-11-18 21:56:52] clashcitybaron : chipper pump
[2015-11-18 21:56:58] TschavaTschigger : to the moon
[2015-11-18 21:57:06] podizzler3000 : actually mistakes between 200-300 are more costly
[2015-11-18 21:57:29] clashcitybaron : I'm tired of sub 400
[2015-11-18 21:57:40] clashcitybaron : I had mroe fun when it was soaring moonwise
[2015-11-18 21:57:57] clashcitybaron : dunno about you guys but I love #onedirection
[2015-11-18 21:58:38] podizzler3000 : oh yeah baby zayne is my hero
[2015-11-18 21:58:49] podizzler3000 : i loved him in hunger games... or was it twilight
[2015-11-18 21:59:39] floopfloop : Bitmex_Wally is my hero
[2015-11-18 21:59:44] podizzler3000 : okcoin lets get real
[2015-11-18 22:13:37] habibi : guys do u have same ? http://scr.hu/9xvi/x2yd9
[2015-11-18 22:14:46] BitMEX_Sam : ?
[2015-11-18 22:15:11] habibi : price on the right side, size and total on the left
[2015-11-18 22:15:40] BitMEX_Sam : Ahh.
[2015-11-18 22:15:52] wurstgelee : yes
[2015-11-18 22:15:58] wurstgelee : thats exactly how it looks for me
[2015-11-18 22:16:09] habibi : wasnt price on the left side :D?
[2015-11-18 22:16:17] wurstgelee : lol, now that u mention it...
[2015-11-18 22:16:18] wurstgelee : yes
[2015-11-18 22:16:19] wurstgelee : lol :)
[2015-11-18 22:16:31] habibi : lel i thought something wrong with my mind :D
[2015-11-18 22:17:19] wurstgelee : BitMEX_Sam: order history really needs 3 filter:s/options: show fille, show partly filled, show unfilled
[2015-11-18 22:17:34] BitMEX_Sam : Sorry about that, we were doing some infrastructural changes to that orderbook
[2015-11-18 22:17:51] wurstgelee : those canceled orders relly annoy ing in the list
[2015-11-18 22:17:54] wurstgelee : if u have a lot of them
[2015-11-18 22:17:54] wurstgelee : =)
[2015-11-18 22:17:59] wurstgelee : *really
[2015-11-18 22:18:25] BitMEX_Sam : wurstgelee: Fills are available in the adv. view
[2015-11-18 22:19:00] wurstgelee : ok, then i would love to be able to filter in basic view ;)
[2015-11-18 22:19:28] wurstgelee : filter for order history, sorting columns everywhere :D
[2015-11-18 22:20:13] BitMEX_Sam : Understood, we will be reworking some of these views and I'll make sure that gets in
[2015-11-18 22:23:22] wurstgelee : thanks a lot :)
[2015-11-18 22:26:36] habibi : refresh guys for back old orderbook tables
[2015-11-18 22:26:44] zanza : issue with new order grouping not displaying your current active bids in Orderbook as "Gold color"
[2015-11-18 22:26:48] zanza : anyone else have that?
[2015-11-18 22:30:01] TschavaTschigger : zanza: yeah me.. sometimes it's gold, sometimes not
[2015-11-18 22:33:45] wurstgelee : yep
[2015-11-18 22:34:51] BitMEX_Sam : If you're up to date (refresh) it should work fine with grouping
[2015-11-18 22:35:05] zanza : k
[2015-11-18 22:36:35] sleger : why did someone mess up the order of the columns of the OB ?
[2015-11-18 22:37:50] habibi : refresh
[2015-11-18 22:38:06] sleger : ahhh thanks
[2015-11-18 23:01:15] wurstgelee : i have an order @ 336.10 and grouping 0.1
[2015-11-18 23:01:24] wurstgelee : result: both 336.10 and 336.20 are gold
[2015-11-18 23:14:41] sleger : im guessing instead of >= and < someone coded >= and <=
[2015-11-18 23:17:15] jung1 : BitMEX_Sam: thanks for grouping!
[2015-11-18 23:17:36] jung1 : much better than next to order options
[2015-11-18 23:19:02] podizzler3000 : huobi support coming in
[2015-11-18 23:19:47] jung1 : podizzler3000: hi podz. what is your prediction about price? back to 500 or 200?
[2015-11-18 23:20:59] podizzler3000 : i think back to 375 this week
[2015-11-18 23:21:20] podizzler3000 : after than it could get ugly unless we get anothe rwave of new fiat
[2015-11-18 23:21:39] podizzler3000 : which is entirely possible with all the eased restrictions in china and europe
[2015-11-18 23:21:41] wurstgelee : up
[2015-11-18 23:22:12] podizzler3000 : i smell a pump brewing
[2015-11-18 23:22:15] podizzler3000 : oh wait nm
[2015-11-18 23:22:24] podizzler3000 : thats not the smell
[2015-11-18 23:22:27] podizzler3000 : but i do think a pump is coming
[2015-11-18 23:22:33] wurstgelee : yep, same
[2015-11-18 23:23:16] podizzler3000 : could be a sadistic fake otu
[2015-11-18 23:23:43] wurstgelee : dont need that again
[2015-11-18 23:23:48] wurstgelee : had enough of these the last days
[2015-11-18 23:23:58] ohmannomma : can i move the stop on the chart?
[2015-11-18 23:24:06] podizzler3000 : haha yeah
[2015-11-18 23:24:15] wurstgelee : ding
[2015-11-18 23:24:28] ohmannomma : it seems that it doesnt change the stop order
[2015-11-18 23:24:44] jung1 : there could be some dump on bitcoin black friday as well
[2015-11-18 23:25:28] jung1 : next friday
[2015-11-18 23:25:37] podizzler3000 : nah
[2015-11-18 23:26:08] podizzler3000 : bitcoin black friday come on thats not even a thing
[2015-11-18 23:27:11] jung1 : but now much more places accept btc
[2015-11-18 23:27:16] jung1 : than last year
[2015-11-18 23:27:41] jung1 : so they will sell recived coins
[2015-11-18 23:28:10] jung1 : or pump make by whales to buy cheaper some stuff
[2015-11-18 23:28:23] jung1 : damn what a possibility
[2015-11-18 23:33:08] podizzler3000 : meh down she goes
[2015-11-18 23:33:13] podizzler3000 : im taking a nap wake me at 350
[2015-11-18 23:33:48] jung1 : yuans?
[2015-11-18 23:41:23] habibi : zimbawbe dollars?
[2015-11-18 23:43:58] zanza : this is the fake out, they make you think its going back and forther between 330-340
[2015-11-18 23:44:02] zanza : then WHAM
[2015-11-18 23:44:06] zanza : up or down it goes
[2015-11-18 23:46:09] zanza : i placed a sell for 338.60 on the `7D` and its showing "golden font" in 2 places
[2015-11-18 23:46:23] zanza : with .1 grouping
[2015-11-18 23:47:32] wurstgelee : zanza: same what i had
[2015-11-18 23:47:44] BitMEX_Sam : Looking into it
[2015-11-18 23:49:36] zanza : im on firefox 42
[2015-11-18 23:49:59] wurstgelee : opera here
[2015-11-18 23:50:05] wurstgelee : doesnt seem browser-specific
[2015-11-18 23:50:28] zanza : i changed to .01 grouping, and not sometimes it doesn't show at all, then sometimes it does
[2015-11-18 23:50:36] zanza : the golden color pops in and out
[2015-11-18 23:51:12] wurstgelee : also same
[2015-11-18 23:52:06] zanza : Did anyone here buy the 21 inc Bitcoin Computer? :)
[2015-11-18 23:56:06] wurstgelee : nope
[2015-11-19 00:01:06] zanza : God blesss the 17 bot
[2015-11-19 00:01:54] BitMEX_Sam : 21 computer seems like a waste of money IMO. As many have said there's not much value in the components themselves
[2015-11-19 00:02:32] BitMEX_Sam : You could buy $100 of Bitcoin and a raspi and be more than $275 ahead of the 21 computer.
[2015-11-19 00:03:14] zanza : yeah to me it looks like VC bullsh*t fooling investors
[2015-11-19 00:03:28] zanza : that they actually have a product or something useful
[2015-11-19 00:03:50] zanza : maybe I will be proved wrong!
[2015-11-19 00:04:33] sleger : proven
[2015-11-19 00:04:47] zanza : ^
[2015-11-19 00:04:56] zanza : no me englando
[2015-11-19 00:10:55] cataquil : what happened to market orders
[2015-11-19 00:11:04] zanza : ?
[2015-11-19 00:11:30] TschavaTschigger : just read about the 21 computer... seems totally useless. mining? on this hardware? lol
[2015-11-19 00:11:37] BitMEX_Sam : cataquil: We've never had market orders, except in the case of close market
[2015-11-19 00:11:45] wurstgelee : completely pointless
[2015-11-19 00:11:52] BitMEX_Sam : Yeah it's 100% a waste of time.
[2015-11-19 00:12:22] BitMEX_Sam : Remember their previous product (that never launched) was an idea for putting miners in common household products like light bulbs
[2015-11-19 00:12:47] BitMEX_Sam : There appears to be this belief that converting electricity to Bitcoin at a rate of 1:10 or worse is somehow worth something, and I'm not sure why
[2015-11-19 00:13:09] zanza : they got like $110 million VC, they are pretty happy
[2015-11-19 00:14:03] TschavaTschigger : zanza: how? VCs are not stupid, especially in SV
[2015-11-19 00:14:24] zanza : how? probably was inside deal, friends of friend
[2015-11-19 00:14:36] zanza : so the VC actual money was coming from outside investors
[2015-11-19 00:14:56] zanza : VC company vouches for his friend, gets funding, him and his friend profit
[2015-11-19 00:15:00] zanza : of course it will end badly
[2015-11-19 00:15:14] zanza : ruin your reputation
[2015-11-19 00:18:19] zanza : Possibly even criminal fraud, depending on the details (that is specualtion)
[2015-11-19 00:19:43] sleger : BitMEX_Sam: "here appears to be this belief that converting electricity to Bitcoin at a rate of 1:10 or worse is somehow worth something" -> that is true when you need heating, your heater converts eletricity to bitcoin at a rate of 0:10 but you still use it...
[2015-11-19 00:20:12] zanza : yes, but you could just get a more efficient miner
[2015-11-19 00:20:17] BitMEX_Sam : Yes, but a space heater costs a lot less money than a miner
[2015-11-19 00:20:21] zanza : that isn't locked to 21 inc network
[2015-11-19 00:20:27] zanza : and that lol
[2015-11-19 00:21:26] sleger : I do not get their business model either, i am just selling that if i can buy the same heater for the same price but one gives me some bitcoin on top of it then why not
[2015-11-19 00:22:05] zanza : you would buy a dedicated bitcoin miner then. The 21 inc computer is a rasberry pi, with their custom software, and a small miner
[2015-11-19 00:22:31] sleger : it's a dedicated bitcoin miner, just a shitty one
[2015-11-19 00:22:53] zanza : the miner probably cost them like $30
[2015-11-19 00:23:11] zanza : you are paying for their API/Software/Ecosystem
[2015-11-19 00:23:14] BitMEX_Sam : But there's no way that an ASIC will ever be the same cost as a ceramic heater
[2015-11-19 00:23:20] sleger : i think you are forgetting all these endless nights of phd research
[2015-11-19 00:23:23] sleger : at the strip club
[2015-11-19 00:23:27] sleger : costs a lot...
[2015-11-19 00:23:41] BitMEX_Sam : Even in raw materials, not to mention the size of the market (cost of smaller production), r&d, software dev... etc
[2015-11-19 00:23:45] BitMEX_Sam : Lol no kidding.
[2015-11-19 00:23:50] zanza : :)
[2015-11-19 00:24:13] sleger : BitMEX_Sam: yes indeed, especially for r&d
[2015-11-19 00:30:41] zanza : any opinion on reusable payment codes? http://insidebitcoins.com/news/reusable-payment-codes-could-make-blockchain-analysis-companies-obsolete/35899
[2015-11-19 00:41:26] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : zanza: Peter Todd has certainly made up his mind https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3tbw2j/reusable_payment_codes_could_make_blockchain/cx4wjh1
[2015-11-19 00:41:53] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Read past the first reply if you're interested because there is better discussion further down about the issues
[2015-11-19 01:02:03] zanza : What are the problems? permalink embed save parent report give gold reply [–]throwaway_98264 11 points 3 hours ago No native support for the tonal system for starters.
[2015-11-19 01:02:09] zanza : #rekt
[2015-11-19 01:02:44] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : zanza: Hahaha yeah that was a good one
[2015-11-19 01:03:42] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : zanza: What are you thinking here? I'm thinking a retest of lower support is likely
[2015-11-19 01:05:32] zanza : i think its bouncing back and forther between like 325-340
[2015-11-19 01:05:41] zanza : until someone decides to bring it up or down
[2015-11-19 01:06:10] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : zanza: It's definitely been range bound, and I could see the possibility of things turning around right here but it seems a bit make or break at this point
[2015-11-19 01:06:19] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : For the bulls
[2015-11-19 01:06:34] zanza : yeah,. last chance for 400+
[2015-11-19 01:06:39] zanza : ticking away
[2015-11-19 01:07:50] floopfloop : if it hit 340 im selling my life on it
[2015-11-19 01:07:58] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : zanza: I'm seeing very similar patterns to last time we had a drop and very little few buyers
[2015-11-19 01:08:02] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : *very few
[2015-11-19 01:09:00] jung1 : well looks quite healthy
[2015-11-19 01:09:07] jung1 : what time is in china now?
[2015-11-19 01:09:11] zanza : another factor is, with higher BTC price, miners need to sell less to cover bills
[2015-11-19 01:09:18] zanza : so less downward pressure from miners
[2015-11-19 01:09:31] jung1 : good point
[2015-11-19 01:09:46] jung1 : but tommorow is black friday
[2015-11-19 01:10:06] jung1 : and thousands of bitcoin shops will join it
[2015-11-19 01:10:15] zanza : ? its tomorrow or next week?
[2015-11-19 01:10:17] sleger : adjust your calendar lol
[2015-11-19 01:10:27] sleger : tomorrow is christmas too ??
[2015-11-19 01:10:31] zanza : !!
[2015-11-19 01:10:51] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : zanza: You could also argue that they may have been not selling right away waiting for higher prices and when those don't seem to be happening they'll sell quickly for the best price they can get
[2015-11-19 01:11:15] zanza : maybe
[2015-11-19 01:11:21] jung1 : ah my bad
[2015-11-19 01:11:36] jung1 : too much of xbt7d trading
[2015-11-19 01:11:51] jung1 : and im like one week further
[2015-11-19 01:11:52] sleger : 7d doesnt settle on black friday either
[2015-11-19 01:12:01] sleger : so either way, no excuse
[2015-11-19 01:12:14] sleger : 8 days of trollbox timeout
[2015-11-19 01:13:17] jung1 : hey bitmex join http://bitcoinblackfriday.info/ and sell contracts -20%
[2015-11-19 01:13:21] jung1 : hehe
[2015-11-19 01:13:37] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : zanza: I hate to be so bearish but the other thing I'm seeing is increasing volume on the way down and decreasing volume on the way up
[2015-11-19 01:13:43] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : jung1: Haha
[2015-11-19 01:13:52] sleger : jung1: bitmex is not selling any contracts...
[2015-11-19 01:14:05] jung1 : damn sleger you are german?
[2015-11-19 01:14:07] sleger : can you try to say at least one thing right ?
[2015-11-19 01:14:22] sleger : no you didnt even get that one right
[2015-11-19 01:14:28] sleger : i give up...
[2015-11-19 01:14:49] jung1 : < /irony>
[2015-11-19 01:14:54] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : sleger: What are you talking about?
[2015-11-19 01:15:35] jung1 : sleger: http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m9i0eg527B1qi5n77o1_500.png
[2015-11-19 01:16:01] floopfloop : ^
[2015-11-19 01:16:06] zanza : woodchipper future think there maybe be some price rise
[2015-11-19 01:16:08] zanza : coming up
[2015-11-19 01:16:47] floopfloop : just had a #5 https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/445254090285936641/TeezNOeY.jpeg
[2015-11-19 01:17:08] floopfloop : Like Lou Bega
[2015-11-19 01:17:52] floopfloop : zanza: im waiting for 335 or lower or 340
[2015-11-19 01:18:05] zanza : anyone watch Bleach anime?
[2015-11-19 01:18:10] floopfloop : zanza: I have
[2015-11-19 01:18:12] sleger : you should rather be wating for your ban
[2015-11-19 01:18:17] floopfloop : sleger: rofl
[2015-11-19 01:18:18] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : floopfloop: "Things we don't share with other people"
[2015-11-19 01:18:24] zanza : ??
[2015-11-19 01:18:37] floopfloop : zanza: havent watched entire series, but have seen episodes
[2015-11-19 01:18:57] floopfloop : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: I thought you would like to know how the dinner you cooked for me ended up.
[2015-11-19 01:19:08] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : floopfloop: :|
[2015-11-19 01:19:11] zanza : ?????
[2015-11-19 01:19:25] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : zanza: floopfloop no sense make again
[2015-11-19 01:19:32] floopfloop : zanza: [adult swim]
[2015-11-19 01:19:39] zanza : hes probably drinking again @IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb
[2015-11-19 01:19:48] floopfloop : thats tomorrow
[2015-11-19 01:19:51] jung1 : ok we're getting more green
[2015-11-19 01:19:53] jung1 : on china
[2015-11-19 01:19:53] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : zanza: That was someone else, right?
[2015-11-19 01:20:07] zanza : lol wut
[2015-11-19 01:22:02] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : zanza: The person who got drunk and wasn't making sense. Don't think it was floopfloop. TschavaTschigger maybe?