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[2017-03-10 15:35:58] rowrow : 5% near the very end of the day
[2017-03-10 15:36:27] rowrow : market could likely overreact though
[2017-03-10 15:36:30] daigo : hmmmYea: I hope you are right, but I saw some headlines at least in the specialized TV shows..
[2017-03-10 15:37:06] ross : My
[2017-03-10 15:37:07] hmmmYea : rowrow: i would pay 10% for a hypothetical approval by no decision contract right now. happily
[2017-03-10 15:37:13] aguia7 : 50% up my capital today. GG
[2017-03-10 15:37:37] ross : my mother messages me to tell me Bitcoin is worth more than gold, maybe I should invest.. little does she know I've been trading it for months
[2017-03-10 15:37:39] hmmmYea : daigo: trump is being investigated bc he might be a russian asset. literally no one is DC cares about this
[2017-03-10 15:37:39] longbydefault : aguia7: good job
[2017-03-10 15:37:45] ross : I'm pretty sure people will hear about it
[2017-03-10 15:38:12] Ahhere : ross: thats weird your mother messaged me the same thing so crazy
[2017-03-10 15:38:19] daigo : hmmmYea: that's very good to know..
[2017-03-10 15:38:39] ross : Ahhere: maybe she will message everyone to say etf approved! Do me a favour
[2017-03-10 15:39:01] Ahhere : lol how rich are your moms friends
[2017-03-10 15:39:02] John John : no news yet about ETF ?
[2017-03-10 15:39:09] sleger : hmmmYea: approval by default, only 10% you think ?
[2017-03-10 15:39:17] rowrow : John John: nope
[2017-03-10 15:39:39] Swimmer : where is the most up to date spot to read if etf gets approved or declined or postponed/
[2017-03-10 15:40:22] ross : Swimmer: tomorrow's newspaper
[2017-03-10 15:40:52] ross : https://www.sec.gov/video/live/2373689294677-evidence-summit-031017.htm
[2017-03-10 15:40:54] hmmmYea : sleger: i dont really know. it seems to allow them to all take credit for being innovative bc they approved it, while no one person at the SEC actually has to go on record saying yes if it all blows up later.
[2017-03-10 15:41:01] cryptokeeper : so.... i bet many of you went over-leverage and got riggity?
[2017-03-10 15:41:09] cryptokeeper : or bad entries because of market orders
[2017-03-10 15:41:30] sleger : hmmmYea: yes I thought the same some time ago but from what I read (reddit) this hasnt been done before, it would be a first
[2017-03-10 15:41:32] Swimmer : ross: is video feed down for everyone?
[2017-03-10 15:41:55] ross : Swimmer: works for me
[2017-03-10 15:41:58] BTCBull : cryptokeeper: nope, waiting for the market to tank after approval
[2017-03-10 15:42:07] ross : Swimmer: try a diff web browser
[2017-03-10 15:42:08] cryptokeeper : BTCBull: buy the news sell the rumour
[2017-03-10 15:42:09] alejandromasari : /wall
[2017-03-10 15:42:12] trollbot : ``` ±$10 Bid|Ask liq : (18 mins) $883K (-21.39%) | $548K (2.56%) ```
[2017-03-10 15:42:14] cryptokeeper : I did that with paypal and microsoft news
[2017-03-10 15:42:14] BTCDJS : sleger: hey
[2017-03-10 15:42:27] cryptokeeper : down we go
[2017-03-10 15:42:35] cryptokeeper : thin books on way down
[2017-03-10 15:42:39] Swimmer : got it, ty!
[2017-03-10 15:42:41] cryptokeeper : im flat... but have fun
[2017-03-10 15:42:53] hmmmYea : sleger: i also thought waiting until the afternoon on friday immediately before the final deadline would be very unlikely too.
[2017-03-10 15:43:39] hmmmYea : thats why bayes matters for the math... as time passes,
[2017-03-10 15:44:02] cryptokeeper : 700 coins back to 1170
[2017-03-10 15:44:02] cryptokeeper : lol
[2017-03-10 15:44:05] Zen Trader : Do any of you think the recent codebase update to the p2p layer in bitcoin core had anything to do with the pump
[2017-03-10 15:44:33] arbitrage101 : sure
[2017-03-10 15:44:37] Zen Trader : It nearly doubles the peed at which nodes download and upload to eachother
[2017-03-10 15:44:58] arbitrage101 : definately
[2017-03-10 15:45:53] sleger : hmmmYea: yes, COIN is not really reflecting that though.
[2017-03-10 15:45:55] Zen Trader : It also throws a wrench into the idea we cant make upgrades and eventually come to agreements about hardforks. The dev ecosystem is strong and diverse and that is key to a global currency if we want to avoid currency manipulation at the code level.
[2017-03-10 15:46:36] Zen Trader : How did Monero fair i wonder
[2017-03-10 15:46:47] Zen Trader : OUCH
[2017-03-10 15:46:55] hmmmYea : sleger: price of bitcoins is though
[2017-03-10 15:47:11] sleger : hmmmYea: on a spike, not a slow move up relecting proba
[2017-03-10 15:47:12] daigo : sleger: COIN must be read in the orderbook... if you really want to bet 1 BTC, the price would become 95
[2017-03-10 15:47:17] Ugly_Old_Goat : Good Morning Ladies
[2017-03-10 15:47:43] longbydefault : Ugly_Old_Goat: good morning
[2017-03-10 15:47:50] sleger : daigo: if you want to sell 1 btc price = ?
[2017-03-10 15:47:59] hmmmYea : sleger: but we didnt come back down. if that was all BS, the spike would have come all the way back down and then below the initial price
[2017-03-10 15:48:14] Heyya : /rekt
[2017-03-10 15:48:14] trollbot : ``` 3 recent REKTs > 100K: ``` ``` 45 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 127542 @ 1262.93 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished: ``` ``` 1 hour, 41 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XRP7D`: sell 200000 @ 0.00000477 ``` ``` 1 hour, 42 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 360386 @ 1279.35 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire: ```
[2017-03-10 15:48:16] vgck : Ugly_Old_Goat: No need to be insulting
[2017-03-10 15:48:26] hmmmYea : im thinking the spike was caused by real size buyers, and then alot of stops going off... rather than a "pump"
[2017-03-10 15:48:45] Ugly_Old_Goat : What happened overnight. I sold at a good chunk of what I bot under 1190 over 1300 with some resting limit orders I did not dream would get filled
[2017-03-10 15:48:51] arbitrage101 : smart whale then
[2017-03-10 15:48:58] hmmmYea : of course i have limited confidence in that interpretation
[2017-03-10 15:49:04] arbitrage101 : pump to cause stoploss on important day
[2017-03-10 15:49:08] daigo : sleger: around 40
[2017-03-10 15:49:15] arbitrage101 : and dump the position on stoploss
[2017-03-10 15:49:19] hmmmYea : arbitrage101: i think today will be a shitshow
[2017-03-10 15:49:28] MrRGnome : hmmmYea: it already has been
[2017-03-10 15:49:32] Ugly_Old_Goat : Alll I know is I made a bundle
[2017-03-10 15:49:33] j8 : i'm surprised we haven't seen more of these big fakeouts this week
[2017-03-10 15:49:36] arbitrage101 : hmmmYea: the mm was too efficient
[2017-03-10 15:49:46] Puffle-Razor-Spark : hmmmYea: shitshow in what direction ?
[2017-03-10 15:49:47] arbitrage101 : didnt make too many good trade earlier
[2017-03-10 15:49:53] hmmmYea : it has. i f'd myself this morning
[2017-03-10 15:49:56] hmmmYea : Puffle-Razor-Spark: all
[2017-03-10 15:50:02] Puffle-Razor-Spark : lol
[2017-03-10 15:50:27] Puffle-Razor-Spark : hmmmYea: don't worry lost over 10 XBT mysqlf
[2017-03-10 15:50:34] hmmmYea : Puffle-Razor-Spark: thats the defining charecteristic of a shitshow
[2017-03-10 15:50:57] Ugly_Old_Goat : Sold March over 1300 before the break, covered shorts at 1217 went long at 1186 down to 1150 and sold it out over 1300 again. Thank your for your support
[2017-03-10 15:51:04] Puffle-Razor-Spark : hmmmYea: well I'll prepare my butt for it
[2017-03-10 15:51:17] hmmmYea : Puffle-Razor-Spark: i lost 8. like a chump.
[2017-03-10 15:51:27] Ugly_Old_Goat : vgck: I was addressing all the ladies here, not the faggots
[2017-03-10 15:51:43] sleger : hmmmYea: not saying anything is also the least chaotic way as price should go up slowly and not spike as much
[2017-03-10 15:51:44] Puffle-Razor-Spark : hmmmYea: We just give some back to the supporting community here at 'mex.. let's be happy!
[2017-03-10 15:52:01] hmmmYea : Puffle-Razor-Spark: hahahaha.
[2017-03-10 15:52:02] Ugly_Old_Goat : vgck: Did not mean to be offensiive. Good Monring Faggot
[2017-03-10 15:52:33] MrRGnome : What side of the pump n dump rekt you
[2017-03-10 15:53:16] Puffle-Razor-Spark : MrRGnome: If you mean me, I was long @ 1190, then it dropped to 1130 or so.. big leverage
[2017-03-10 15:53:26] vgck : Ugly_Old_Goat: Stupid niggr
[2017-03-10 15:53:41] vgck : I mean, @Ugly_Old_Goat Good morning, n*gger
[2017-03-10 15:53:50] cryptokeeper : bfx bids removed now
[2017-03-10 15:53:51] cryptokeeper : hold on to your butts
[2017-03-10 15:53:53] MrRGnome : Puffle-Razor-Spark: damn, that sucks. I bought that same movement on low leverage, I did pretty well
[2017-03-10 15:54:00] hmmmYea : MrRGnome: well, i sold out of the long side of by basis trade on the intitial pump. and then when it went parabolic, i did my first ever levered trade. sold 200k with 100x when it was 1300ish... then got insta-rekt on that.
[2017-03-10 15:54:15] Ugly_Old_Goat : vgck: You can call me by my first name
[2017-03-10 15:54:35] MrRGnome : hmmmYea: daaamn. Yeah the urge to fomo on etf enws is very real.
[2017-03-10 15:55:25] thegypsy : /sentiment
[2017-03-10 15:55:28] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 65.71 / 34.29 Daily : 49.20 / 50.81 Weekly : 53.16 / 46.84 Monthly : 50.57 / 49.43```
[2017-03-10 15:55:46] hmmmYea : MrRGnome: oh , i was selling.. the pump just kept going after i sold
[2017-03-10 15:55:57] MrRGnome : I love the war stories after a ~300 movement. So much gore.
[2017-03-10 15:55:59] hmmmYea : MrRGnome: i was fading the domo
[2017-03-10 15:56:03] hmmmYea : fomo
[2017-03-10 15:56:22] MrRGnome : I know, and all the idiots who were fomoing ruined you
[2017-03-10 15:56:40] MrRGnome : they can't resist fomoing on etf news, price or rumor be damned
[2017-03-10 15:56:43] Ahhere : hmmmYea: calling the top at 100x is not the worst move presuming you didnt go in too big, pure gambling tho
[2017-03-10 15:57:04] Ugly_Old_Goat : Not sure what happened, but cleaned out all my standing sell orders
[2017-03-10 15:57:25] Ahhere : i cant fucking believe that wasnt even it, that move was just a tremor
[2017-03-10 15:57:46] OaktreeCapital : Looks like the ETF just got rejected.
[2017-03-10 15:58:01] MrRGnome : Yeah I am surprised we almost tested $1000, nearly hit my stop loss.
[2017-03-10 15:58:29] Ahhere : i would lol if rejection or approval did a little plop of a move like 20 dollars after everyone was cleared out
[2017-03-10 15:58:42] cryptokeeper : Lol.
[2017-03-10 15:58:42] hmmmYea : Ahhere: if i would just gotten short like a rational, analtical human without 100x, i would done awesome... but i got caught up
[2017-03-10 15:59:44] MrRGnome : Going to be a LOT of movements in the next coming hours and days. Always a better decision to live to fight another fight than risk it all on the first good movement of many.
[2017-03-10 15:59:46] hmmmYea : luckily im still trading btc for baby stakes
[2017-03-10 16:00:53] Ahhere : hmmmYea: how much of your capital did you lose?
[2017-03-10 16:01:00] Ahhere : % like
[2017-03-10 16:01:01] hmmmYea : Ahhere: 8btc
[2017-03-10 16:01:01] Dempips : will the SEC release this as a press release or where can i see the decision?
[2017-03-10 16:01:03] BTCBull : The bitcoin market right now: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNS22xGezSY
[2017-03-10 16:01:22] MrRGnome : Dempips: Didn't you hear? It already happened.
[2017-03-10 16:01:29] MrRGnome : Dempips: Denied, that's why price isn't up more.
[2017-03-10 16:01:54] MrRGnome : We're all here waiting for the March 30 etf, right guys
[2017-03-10 16:02:04] Dempips : oh...where did you see it
[2017-03-10 16:02:21] MrRGnome : Just look at the market 3 hours ago, you can see when it happened.
[2017-03-10 16:03:03] Swimmer : there's been no official statement, so idk where you're getting that idea from
[2017-03-10 16:03:04] bingbongfly : the pump to 1560 was etf insider buys
[2017-03-10 16:03:04] ripcord : https://www.sec.gov/rules/sro/batsbzx/2017/?C=M;O=D
[2017-03-10 16:03:05] Swimmer : just because of a spike in price
[2017-03-10 16:03:18] sleger : half a day left and its friday afternoon
[2017-03-10 16:03:18] bingbongfly : Swimmer: insider buy, etf will be approved ;)
[2017-03-10 16:03:19] Dempips : yeh this is speculation
[2017-03-10 16:03:21] MrRGnome : Come on someone back me up here, the etf is done it happened
[2017-03-10 16:03:29] sleger : more and more likely
[2017-03-10 16:03:32] MrRGnome : Don't troll these poor kids
[2017-03-10 16:03:37] sleger : rapid praying all gods now from all religions
[2017-03-10 16:03:49] daigo : MrRGnome: you can lead to wrong investment camon...
[2017-03-10 16:04:24] MrRGnome : I don't know about you guys but I've been sitting in front of this exchange for too long, I deserve to have a little fun and so do you.
[2017-03-10 16:04:34] amaru : sleger: didnt he get liqd
[2017-03-10 16:05:00] hmmmYea : MrRGnome: this is like election night in real trading, you just have to grind thru it
[2017-03-10 16:05:21] .. : safe to sleep yet ? getting tired
[2017-03-10 16:05:24] MrRGnome : hmmmYea: Except without the joyous alcohol until much later.
[2017-03-10 16:05:24] .. : (:
[2017-03-10 16:05:28] Wings : hey guys
[2017-03-10 16:05:38] lockhedge : this will be a long weekend
[2017-03-10 16:06:04] Wings : is the 1x leverage ROE - the return on the contracts you're short/long?
[2017-03-10 16:06:41] .. : roe is based on "margin" (the amount u are risking)
[2017-03-10 16:06:42] .. : afaik
[2017-03-10 16:06:52] .. : seems pretty useless to me, but maybe with 1x is easier
[2017-03-10 16:07:31] Wings : yeah it swings all over the place, im usually on cross, but it gives ridiculously high figures - 1x seems to be accurate
[2017-03-10 16:07:59] cryptokeeper : whos ready to get rekt this weekend?
[2017-03-10 16:08:01] cryptokeeper : raise your hands
[2017-03-10 16:08:07] Dynamix : Wings: 50x is better
[2017-03-10 16:08:14] Wings : in as far its the ROE with respect to my position
[2017-03-10 16:08:24] daigo : my hands are crossed
[2017-03-10 16:08:28] Dynamix : U got a bit of room to swiggle haha
[2017-03-10 16:08:33] Wings : Dynamix: lol
[2017-03-10 16:08:54] Dynamix : Atm 10$ + 5 min candles
[2017-03-10 16:09:03] Dynamix : not so good to 100x
[2017-03-10 16:09:45] Wings : i wont go above 3x , need some ammo to take advantage of these squeezes
[2017-03-10 16:10:13] NooBTCrader : ?
[2017-03-10 16:10:25] aguia7 : triangle, up. i think
[2017-03-10 16:11:05] KyllingLolsson : /sentiment
[2017-03-10 16:11:07] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 56.72 / 43.28 Daily : 49.37 / 50.63 Weekly : 53.17 / 46.83 Monthly : 50.58 / 49.42```
[2017-03-10 16:11:31] KyllingLolsson : aguia7: too shaky here...
[2017-03-10 16:12:20] smokim87 : again btc spikes 100+$ while I sleep
[2017-03-10 16:13:21] Ahhere : smokim87: why you sleeping so much im worried about you
[2017-03-10 16:13:35] Puffle-Razor-Spark : can you see what generated username you have on the leaderboard?
[2017-03-10 16:13:40] Ahhere : #narcolepsyawareness @smokim87
[2017-03-10 16:13:47] smokim87 : Ahhere: lol i only sleep 5 hours
[2017-03-10 16:14:18] smokim87 : Ahhere: apparently crazy moves in btc happen a few hours after i go to sleep
[2017-03-10 16:14:56] smokim87 : Ahhere: the best feeling when you wake up to find your short has been liq when it was 700% in the green
[2017-03-10 16:15:23] Ahhere : Maybe the admin will put your sleeping patterns on the main chart for everybody's reference.
[2017-03-10 16:15:39] Ahhere : Ouch a lot of ppl got fukt and this isnt even the announcement
[2017-03-10 16:16:06] smokim87 : Ahhere: though etf was approved, but nothing. These erratic jumps are the reason imo etf wont be approved yet.
[2017-03-10 16:16:53] Ahhere : someone must have market bought a shitton to pretend to be insider and then pulled the rug on everybody. Easy money lol
[2017-03-10 16:16:57] Ahhere : or else actual insider
[2017-03-10 16:17:11] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 65 @ 1256.54
[2017-03-10 16:17:11] REKT : Close your longs, close your shorts, choppy waters ahead!
[2017-03-10 16:17:37] cryptoyolo : NOW THEY TAKING A BREAK TO PLACE ORDERS
[2017-03-10 16:17:42] cryptoyolo : ops.. sorry caps
[2017-03-10 16:17:57] Ugly_Old_Goat : Who was the lucky buyer at 1548.31?
[2017-03-10 16:18:10] daigo : they just spent all of their money
[2017-03-10 16:18:17] sleger : and people still think the W wouldnt have withdrawn their application by now if sec was going to reject it ?
[2017-03-10 16:18:26] sleger : i'm up to 65% approval chance
[2017-03-10 16:18:37] finnagetdooped : what was the biggest single buy
[2017-03-10 16:18:37] cryptoyolo : sleger: i just cant seem to long now
[2017-03-10 16:18:39] rapidtrades : sleger: ur a tool
[2017-03-10 16:18:50] sleger : rapidtrades: you're a food
[2017-03-10 16:18:54] ross : finnagetdooped: I saw 1k btc at one stage
[2017-03-10 16:19:17] finnagetdooped : kk ty
[2017-03-10 16:19:38] Swimmer : it's so obvious it'll get declined. the sec would never, ever ever ever let people invest and recommend investing into something that can be completely miniuplated and legitimately scam the members by people with thousands of bitcoins
[2017-03-10 16:19:59] petertheil : Swimmer: youre wring its been stealthily approved by the rule changes
[2017-03-10 16:20:15] finnagetdooped : you are assuming the SEC is good at their job fam
[2017-03-10 16:20:18] GT : Swimmer: you mean like getting into the buying and selling of sub prime morgages?
[2017-03-10 16:20:18] hmmmYea : Swimmer: there's a silver etf. google the hunt brothers
[2017-03-10 16:20:22] Swimmer : like holy fuck its obvious, its completely illegal what happens with bitcoin in comparison to the stock market
[2017-03-10 16:20:31] daigo : Swimmer: you think they care... they are people, not robot coming from the future to save you
[2017-03-10 16:20:34] GT : there are alot of risky things out there ,forex cough
[2017-03-10 16:20:51] hmmmYea : Swimmer: there are currency etfs, but no regulation on the trade of currencies
[2017-03-10 16:20:58] petertheil : Swimmer: why are you here? s&p gives more leverage..do that
[2017-03-10 16:21:33] Swimmer : silver etf
[2017-03-10 16:21:35] daigo : Swimmer: if they were to reject because of its risk... they would have done it years ago
[2017-03-10 16:21:50] Swimmer : people with millions of dollars in silver cant make it so investors get fucked on their investments
[2017-03-10 16:21:55] Swimmer : multiple times a day like what happens with bitcoin
[2017-03-10 16:21:59] Swimmer : it'll get decined
[2017-03-10 16:22:10] hmmmYea : Swimmer: google the hunt brothers
[2017-03-10 16:22:22] daigo : Swimmer: you can short COIN if you are so sure... :-)
[2017-03-10 16:22:29] petertheil : Swimmer: ok bud, see you at 2k on sunday
[2017-03-10 16:22:31] MrRGnome : Swimmer: If people can trade weed stocks that are 10x more volatile than bitcoin they should be able to trade btc etf's
[2017-03-10 16:22:35] vgck : /wall
[2017-03-10 16:22:36] hmmmYea : silver was used for the biggest market manipulation in history
[2017-03-10 16:22:39] QuinnTrades : yeah, put your money where your mouth is
[2017-03-10 16:22:40] trollbot : ``` ±$10 Bid|Ask liq : (40 mins) $939K (78.95%) | $980K (6.25%) ```
[2017-03-10 16:22:42] Ahhere : It will be approved. Why would the sec and TPTB pass up an opportunity to have some (more) control over bitcoin.
[2017-03-10 16:23:08] petertheil : Swimmer: study the rule changes dont be adufus
[2017-03-10 16:23:25] petertheil : /price
[2017-03-10 16:23:29] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1239.03 (0.94%) Bitfinex : 1240.10 (0.76%) The Woodchipper : 1246.13 (0.74%) itBit : 1239.61 (0.73%) Kraken : 1241.65 (1.19%) GDAX : 1241.58 (0.43%) SLQ : 59 mins```
[2017-03-10 16:25:44] finnagetdooped : bitstamp save my life last night
[2017-03-10 16:26:08] finnagetdooped : but my long from 2 days ago is my baby now
[2017-03-10 16:26:43] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 2040 @ 1254.05
[2017-03-10 16:27:43] Ahhere : God help all my homies who were hedging their cold storage on here and got fucked up in the game with that mini move
[2017-03-10 16:28:11] Actualiteit : finnagetdooped: pls tell me you took partial profit or moved your stop into the green
[2017-03-10 16:28:40] finnagetdooped : moving up my stops buddy
[2017-03-10 16:28:48] Actualiteit : finnagetdooped: noice breh
[2017-03-10 16:28:49] MrRGnome : profit takers are pussies. ride the etf decision or go home.
[2017-03-10 16:29:25] KyllingLolsson : /sentiment
[2017-03-10 16:29:27] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 66.53 / 33.47 Daily : 49.82 / 50.18 Weekly : 53.26 / 46.74 Monthly : 50.62 / 49.38```
[2017-03-10 16:29:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 49525 @ 1250.61
[2017-03-10 16:30:15] bingbongfly : nooooo
[2017-03-10 16:30:29] longbydefault : bingbongfly: why?
[2017-03-10 16:30:33] NooBTCrader : Peopla are so reckless
[2017-03-10 16:30:33] bingbongfly : what will happen if there is no decision today?
[2017-03-10 16:30:41] bingbongfly : that would cause mayham in speculation
[2017-03-10 16:30:42] NooBTCrader : and so rektfull
[2017-03-10 16:30:51] zy : dump
[2017-03-10 16:30:55] NooBTCrader : pump !
[2017-03-10 16:31:03] daigo : bingbongfly: that's a good question, because someone says they still have monday and they didn't clarify
[2017-03-10 16:31:03] bingbongfly : "decision is on monday", "etf auto approved"
[2017-03-10 16:31:14] bingbongfly : daigo: yea I know! The official date is the 11th
[2017-03-10 16:31:17] bingbongfly : but that is on a saturday
[2017-03-10 16:31:18] finnagetdooped : if no announcement it passed by default
[2017-03-10 16:31:28] bingbongfly : finnagetdooped: haha today or tommorrow?
[2017-03-10 16:31:38] daigo : bingbongfly: actually they wrote "NO LATER THAN"
[2017-03-10 16:31:43] longbydefault : etf decision comes on weekend
[2017-03-10 16:31:55] bingbongfly : See, too much speculation xD
[2017-03-10 16:31:56] bingbongfly : I love it
[2017-03-10 16:31:56] daigo : if I were a lawyer I would say NO MONDAY SHIT
[2017-03-10 16:32:28] daigo : I hate that they didn't care to clarify
[2017-03-10 16:32:37] bingbongfly : daigo: exactly, no later then the 11th.. But since they don't come on weekend (yet at least) is it auto approved if there is no announcment today?! :S
[2017-03-10 16:32:55] bingbongfly : daigo: maybe SEC intentionally want it to be unclear
[2017-03-10 16:32:56] NooBTCrader : Can't we expect the Winklewii lawyers to drop a word once it's official ?
[2017-03-10 16:33:07] bingbongfly : NooBTCrader: you'll see it on the SEC website first :D
[2017-03-10 16:33:14] daigo : bingbongfly: I would agree, but even bitmex postponed the expiry date because of this monday non-sense
[2017-03-10 16:33:37] MrRGnome : daigo: What about it is nonsense or uncelar?
[2017-03-10 16:33:40] bingbongfly : daigo: yup. Noone really knows
[2017-03-10 16:33:43] Klerni : everyone refresing sec website? :)
[2017-03-10 16:33:51] MrRGnome : ... the law is explicit. Where is the confusion?
[2017-03-10 16:33:56] .. : no, got scripts for that
[2017-03-10 16:34:00] Klerni : haha
[2017-03-10 16:34:00] .. : will still be too late
[2017-03-10 16:34:03] bingbongfly : MrRGnome: it's not explicit
[2017-03-10 16:34:12] bingbongfly : MrRGnome: if there is no announcment today, is it auto approved?
[2017-03-10 16:34:13] finnagetdooped : who said auto approved today? if they go silent through monday is all that means
[2017-03-10 16:34:32] finnagetdooped : lots of dump if nothing said till monday because weak hands or fear
[2017-03-10 16:34:33] bingbongfly : finnagetdooped: if there is no announcment tommorrow, it's autoapproved by law,
[2017-03-10 16:34:39] bingbongfly : at least you can argue that
[2017-03-10 16:34:40] KyllingLolsson : BB looks springy
[2017-03-10 16:34:54] MrRGnome : bingbongfly: The securities act of 1933, which sets the original deadline and process for the sec in this case, says if the decision day falls on the weekend the effective deadline is the next business day
[2017-03-10 16:35:03] MrRGnome : There is 0 ambiguity.
[2017-03-10 16:35:13] bingbongfly : Lol no that's just humbug
[2017-03-10 16:35:22] bingbongfly : the act says a specific amount of days
[2017-03-10 16:35:29] bingbongfly : and "NO LATER THEN X"
[2017-03-10 16:35:31] sleger : MrRGnome: source ?
[2017-03-10 16:35:36] MrRGnome : It does,a nd it specifies wha thappens if that specific amount of days falls ont he weekend
[2017-03-10 16:35:41] daigo : bingbongfly: yes, it maybe intentional, but to what end? I cannot think of a good reason... good enough to risk such a mess
[2017-03-10 16:35:53] bingbongfly : MrRGnome: Unless you provide a official source, it's just bullshit
[2017-03-10 16:35:55] MrRGnome : sleger: https://www.sec.gov/about/laws/sa33.pdf
[2017-03-10 16:35:59] sleger : MrRGnome: https://twitter.com/jeffjohnroberts/status/840011161802330112
[2017-03-10 16:36:13] sleger : MrRGnome: page ?
[2017-03-10 16:36:29] MrRGnome : sleger: What am i your legal secretary?
[2017-03-10 16:36:39] bingbongfly : MrRGnome: funny how there is a not a single word found about: "weekend, next business day"
[2017-03-10 16:36:46] bingbongfly : or anything along those lines
[2017-03-10 16:36:53] mtourig3 : breakout coming
[2017-03-10 16:36:56] wurstgelee : today is too funny
[2017-03-10 16:37:00] wurstgelee : finex 8)
[2017-03-10 16:37:02] bingbongfly : MrRGnome: good try doe xD
[2017-03-10 16:37:08] finnagetdooped : yall trollin with some tin foil hat shit
[2017-03-10 16:37:26] MrRGnome : bingbongfly: Man you believe what you want, I gave you all the tools to learn for yourself.
[2017-03-10 16:37:33] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTH17`: buy 4000 @ 1262.83
[2017-03-10 16:37:33] -_- : Swap so funny. From $10 under to $10 above in 2 minutes
[2017-03-10 16:37:49] bingbongfly : MrRGnome: I'll agree to disagree sure. Good luck
[2017-03-10 16:37:50] vgck : To the moon?
[2017-03-10 16:37:51] Yuppie : yeah what are these erratic trades..
[2017-03-10 16:37:54] utilityguide : Guys pls clear me this I had a 180 contract long open with 100 leverage when it reached 1313 dollars I got nothing for the hike instead got a mail say you been auto deleveraged? Wtf!
[2017-03-10 16:38:11] sleger : MrRGnome: no but you link to a huge doc and you didnt quote it so it seems you're not sure where it says that exactly. And you expect people to search through all that ?
[2017-03-10 16:38:20] sleger : either quote the relevant part or link to it
[2017-03-10 16:38:24] haxmb : utilityguide: you were using 100x leverage
[2017-03-10 16:38:35] haxmb : whats the fcking question
[2017-03-10 16:38:47] Yuppie : very difficult to trade in size today..without accepting 5 dollar slippage
[2017-03-10 16:38:52] utilityguide : Well I got nothing for the hike ?
[2017-03-10 16:38:53] MrRGnome : sleger: You're expecting em to search for information I already have, you're applying the same onus on me and I am not the one benefiting
[2017-03-10 16:38:54] ross : Hello shorts
[2017-03-10 16:39:01] MrRGnome : I don't keep footnotes of every fact I ever look up.
[2017-03-10 16:39:12] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 95000 @ 1250.75 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2017-03-10 16:39:12] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 22 @ 1250.48
[2017-03-10 16:39:21] Actualiteit : ouch
[2017-03-10 16:39:22] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 100 @ 1252.19
[2017-03-10 16:39:22] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 25 @ 1252.26
[2017-03-10 16:39:24] mrleb : /price
[2017-03-10 16:39:26] sleger : MrRGnome: it seems there is a large disagreement on that part
[2017-03-10 16:39:26] ross : Lunchtime buys
[2017-03-10 16:39:28] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1254.59 (1.26%) Bitfinex : 1254.90 (1.19%) The Woodchipper : 1253.02 (0.55%) itBit : 1251.31 (0.94%) Kraken : 1248.03 (0.51%) GDAX : 1256.73 (1.22%) SLQ : 15 mins```
[2017-03-10 16:39:31] sleger : so trying to figure it out
[2017-03-10 16:39:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 12 @ 1253.41
[2017-03-10 16:39:52] Yuppie : Hopium trade :-)
[2017-03-10 16:40:07] MrRGnome : sleger: It's possible there is some jurisdiction issue, but that would surprise me since the document I link governs the entire process the winks are going through.
[2017-03-10 16:40:35] ripcord : it is Monday if you're filing material with the comminssion: http://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/text-idx?node=17:4.0.1.1.1&rgn=div5#se17.4.240_10_63
[2017-03-10 16:40:37] sleger : MrRGnome: https://twitter.com/RyanVlastelica/status/840217251223556096
[2017-03-10 16:40:40] sleger : is this guy anyone ?
[2017-03-10 16:40:54] Actualiteit : sleger: yeah thats Ryan.
[2017-03-10 16:40:57] MrRGnome : sleger: I have no idea.
[2017-03-10 16:41:03] sleger : Actualiteit: and ?
[2017-03-10 16:41:13] longbydefault : ryan confirmed
[2017-03-10 16:41:18] Actualiteit : sleger: well that means he is someone!
[2017-03-10 16:41:29] sleger : troll
[2017-03-10 16:41:41] Actualiteit : sleger: bruh you asked if he was someone
[2017-03-10 16:42:08] sleger : Actualiteit: please consider all my questions and comments are not directly towards you and ignore them
[2017-03-10 16:42:20] Actualiteit : sleger: nah thnx.
[2017-03-10 16:42:29] lockhedge : sleger: Rule 160. Time Computation.https://www.sec.gov/about/rulesprac072003.htm#160
[2017-03-10 16:42:31] j8 : the 5th occurrence of "not later" in that 1933 document seems to be the relevant part
[2017-03-10 16:42:43] hmmmYea : he seems legit
[2017-03-10 16:42:45] bingbongfly : MrRGnome: guess you were wrong! decision today :D
[2017-03-10 16:42:50] bingbongfly : Exciting times, goo dluck everyone
[2017-03-10 16:42:52] hmmmYea : the market watch guy
[2017-03-10 16:43:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 13800 @ 1256.88
[2017-03-10 16:43:08] MrRGnome : bingbongfly: How does a decision today make me wrong about the deadline?
[2017-03-10 16:43:24] longbydefault : ryan asked the SEC... at least its today! not monday
[2017-03-10 16:43:36] bingbongfly : MrRGnome: you said they do it "the next business day" but they dont and never will
[2017-03-10 16:44:38] sleger : someone should call the sec
[2017-03-10 16:44:47] sleger : if they told "ryan" they should tell anyone
[2017-03-10 16:45:45] hmmmYea : sleger: he's a journalist
[2017-03-10 16:46:01] longbydefault : hope it's approved *gulp*
[2017-03-10 16:46:29] sleger : MrRGnome: "(d) REGISTRATION STATEMENT FOR ASSET-BACKED SECURITIES.—Not later than 180 days after the date of enactment of this subsection, the Commission shall issue rules relating to the registration statement required to be filed by any issuer of an assetbacked security "
[2017-03-10 16:46:32] sleger : thanks j8
[2017-03-10 16:46:57] MrRGnome : Yes?
[2017-03-10 16:47:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 14642 @ 1253.88
[2017-03-10 16:47:18] sleger : no later than 180 days
[2017-03-10 16:47:22] sleger : so not monday
[2017-03-10 16:47:25] Zen Trader : /sentiment
[2017-03-10 16:47:27] sleger : cause its later than 180 days
[2017-03-10 16:47:28] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 47.24 / 52.76 Daily : 49.26 / 50.74 Weekly : 53.05 / 46.95 Monthly : 50.56 / 49.44```
[2017-03-10 16:47:39] hmmmYea : its moot
[2017-03-10 16:47:42] hmmmYea : who cares
[2017-03-10 16:48:02] lockhedge : MrRGnome: where is the quote about the deadline in the Securities Exchange Act?
[2017-03-10 16:48:22] sleger : lockhedge: he said he is not a legal secretary
[2017-03-10 16:48:26] sleger : i quoted it just above
[2017-03-10 16:48:40] wignodeer : @wurstgelee ge w
[2017-03-10 16:48:55] wurstgelee : omg
[2017-03-10 16:49:18] cryptoyolo : its today
[2017-03-10 16:49:50] degen : March Hit 1548? Omf
[2017-03-10 16:50:11] QuinnTrades : lol
[2017-03-10 16:50:17] mtourig3 : damn
[2017-03-10 16:50:24] j8 : somebody's stop market is not happy
[2017-03-10 16:50:29] cryptoyolo : LOL
[2017-03-10 16:50:34] cryptoyolo : LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL NOTHING TO SAY ABOUT BTC
[2017-03-10 16:50:36] Rune : HAHAH
[2017-03-10 16:50:39] mrleb : lol
[2017-03-10 16:50:39] QuinnTrades : lmao
[2017-03-10 16:50:40] Rune : bodied
[2017-03-10 16:50:41] Ugly_Old_Goat : degen: Who was the lucky buyer?
[2017-03-10 16:50:52] cryptoyolo : sorry caps again im dumb
[2017-03-10 16:51:01] mrleb : and that's how 2000 web viewers left the live feed
[2017-03-10 16:51:02] cryptoyolo : Dump btc... dump it
[2017-03-10 16:51:02] degen : Not me. I got all on perpetual
[2017-03-10 16:51:15] degen : ADL'D
[2017-03-10 16:51:30] mtourig3 : lol china will keep it up now
[2017-03-10 16:53:10] cryptokeeper : down we go
[2017-03-10 16:54:51] sleger : MrRGnome: "no later than 180 days so not monday"
[2017-03-10 16:55:03] sleger : that's what your link says
[2017-03-10 16:55:17] -_- : The SEC has confirmed that a bitcoin ETF decision will be released today
[2017-03-10 16:55:24] lockhedge : no
[2017-03-10 16:55:25] -_- : Long it
[2017-03-10 16:55:26] BTCBull : -_-: source?
[2017-03-10 16:55:35] degen : YOLO
[2017-03-10 16:55:43] -_- : https://twitter.com/RyanVlastelica/status/840217251223556096
[2017-03-10 16:55:47] cryptoyolo : Guy just said at the stream that he knows nothing about btc
[2017-03-10 16:55:47] -_- : Longing more
[2017-03-10 16:55:54] BTCBull : -_-: That's not a real source
[2017-03-10 16:56:04] cryptokeeper : exactly
[2017-03-10 16:56:07] aeos : -_-: why long
[2017-03-10 16:56:10] MrRGnome : sleger: Count back from 180 days for me and tell me what date you end up at, and then link to me the registration filing that occurred that day.
[2017-03-10 16:56:23] cryptokeeper : down we go some more.
[2017-03-10 16:56:38] -_- : Because winkletwins didn't withdraw since they didn't tell us
[2017-03-10 16:56:39] lockhedge : -_-: wow
[2017-03-10 16:56:57] -_- : Sec tells us it must mean approved
[2017-03-10 16:56:58] InvalidUser : https://i.redditmedia.com/JpREu-myDm-jlX7HhuuN5ZX4Rsucb9ZTy53q_EsS0VU.png?w=663&s=7852f3ab389cbdf4d6ea3a39e7bca9e7
[2017-03-10 16:57:21] mtourig3 : https://twitter.com/RyanVlastelica/status/840244165971701760
[2017-03-10 16:59:26] ross : Whys the Reddit picture say Thursday
[2017-03-10 16:59:26] Sam : /sentiment
[2017-03-10 16:59:29] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 51.60 / 48.40 Daily : 49.78 / 50.22 Weekly : 53.10 / 46.90 Monthly : 50.58 / 49.42```
[2017-03-10 16:59:37] herpinator : ross: its typo the sec made
[2017-03-10 17:00:40] ross : Ok
[2017-03-10 17:00:56] JT : waiting for a slightly better entry :/
[2017-03-10 17:01:10] Rune : I was told to keep refreshing this page becuse this is it
[2017-03-10 17:01:10] Rune : https://www.sec.gov/rules/sro/batsbzx.htm
[2017-03-10 17:01:31] JT : got REKT on the way down a few days ago ;(
[2017-03-10 17:01:52] rafaelnorman : JT: bought the top?
[2017-03-10 17:01:59] mtourig3 : Rune: yeah
[2017-03-10 17:02:02] mtourig3 : it will show up there
[2017-03-10 17:02:16] JT : rafaelnorman: i guess so. i thought it was bottom but was way wrong
[2017-03-10 17:02:53] Drbrule : whooo hooo!!!!! Thats some good news. Sorry People I'm not sharing it
[2017-03-10 17:03:14] Nutella : k
[2017-03-10 17:03:24] Klerni : :)
[2017-03-10 17:03:56] Klerni : if there are good news, then just buy for 50k usd ;-)
[2017-03-10 17:04:11] Klerni : i hope u dont wait anymore
[2017-03-10 17:05:02] Winklevoss : Ladies and gentlemen...
[2017-03-10 17:05:13] Sam : Winklevoss: lolz
[2017-03-10 17:05:26] longbydefault : Winklevoss: tell us already
[2017-03-10 17:05:49] Winklevoss : If everybody could please calm down
[2017-03-10 17:05:54] longbydefault : haha
[2017-03-10 17:05:57] Winklevoss : I need somebody to contact the SEC
[2017-03-10 17:06:04] Winklevoss : and ask them what the fuck is going on
[2017-03-10 17:06:08] longbydefault : Winklevoss: even you don't know...
[2017-03-10 17:06:18] kurkudu : Winklevoss: how was the orgies with trump and yelen?
[2017-03-10 17:06:25] JT : i think it would be withdrawn by now
[2017-03-10 17:06:35] Winklevoss : kurkudu: How do you know about that..
[2017-03-10 17:07:52] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: buy 200 @ 0.014940
[2017-03-10 17:08:02] Dynamix : Another drop to 1220 maybe ?
[2017-03-10 17:08:15] kurkudu : Winklevoss: rapid hangs out with yelen, he told me
[2017-03-10 17:08:29] BTCDJS : https://twitter.com/ryanvlastelica/status/840238205253353472
[2017-03-10 17:08:50] -_- : Eta for etf like 2-4 hours
[2017-03-10 17:08:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `DASH7D`: sell 32 @ 0.041058
[2017-03-10 17:09:06] Dynamix : -_-: is that announcement ?
[2017-03-10 17:09:10] BTCDJS : Moon
[2017-03-10 17:09:13] Tetsuo : full blown AIDS < Genocide < Waitin for da SEC
[2017-03-10 17:09:21] -_- : It's the end of Friday time
[2017-03-10 17:09:28] -_- : Only time left
[2017-03-10 17:09:39] Winklevoss : SEC operates out of DC
[2017-03-10 17:09:55] Dspurt : /rekt
[2017-03-10 17:09:56] trollbot : ``` 3 recent REKTs > 100K: ``` ``` 2 hours, 7 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 127542 @ 1262.93 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished: ``` ``` 3 hours, 3 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XRP7D`: sell 200000 @ 0.00000477 ``` ``` 3 hours, 3 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 360386 @ 1279.35 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire: ```
[2017-03-10 17:09:58] Winklevoss : so they have another 6 hours
[2017-03-10 17:09:59] -_- : If it doesn't happen then I'll be disappointed
[2017-03-10 17:10:08] BTCDJS : /sentiment
[2017-03-10 17:10:13] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 48.29 / 51.71 Daily : 49.89 / 50.11 Weekly : 53.10 / 46.91 Monthly : 50.58 / 49.42```
[2017-03-10 17:10:14] MrRGnome : everyone be prepared for some serious exchange lag when the decision comes out.
[2017-03-10 17:10:38] cryptokeeper : yep
[2017-03-10 17:10:40] cryptokeeper : most will just get auto liquidated
[2017-03-10 17:10:45] cryptokeeper : or horrible entries
[2017-03-10 17:10:56] Winklevoss : cryptokeeper: @MrRGnome ?
[2017-03-10 17:11:04] cryptokeeper : standard issue
[2017-03-10 17:11:04] BTCDJS : Will wait for dip
[2017-03-10 17:11:06] Klerni : Winklevoss, will u pump too with leverage in BitMex if it's accepted?
[2017-03-10 17:11:18] Winklevoss : Klerni: Yh pump anything bro
[2017-03-10 17:11:18] Klerni : :)
[2017-03-10 17:11:26] kurkudu : MrRGnome: we prepared for another orgies, winki is already here
[2017-03-10 17:11:38] JT : just need mrmoonsoon
[2017-03-10 17:12:04] JT : and alejandro dinero
[2017-03-10 17:14:08] Klerni : Winklevoss and did u already make some estimations about how much money ETF can put into bitcoins in next days? >1b ? or completely not predictable on this stage.
[2017-03-10 17:15:46] 10 : Klerni: the estimate is 300 million in the first week
[2017-03-10 17:15:48] Winklevoss : Klerni: ~$60m
[2017-03-10 17:15:52] Winklevoss : first day
[2017-03-10 17:16:08] amaru : btfd
[2017-03-10 17:16:21] lockhedge : nothing within the next days, will take weeks/months to list
[2017-03-10 17:17:38] amaru : too late
[2017-03-10 17:17:39] amaru : hehe
[2017-03-10 17:19:17] amaru : clear skies ladies
[2017-03-10 17:19:21] amaru : lets do this
[2017-03-10 17:21:09] -_- : Dude long and be rich in a few hours once you get adl
[2017-03-10 17:22:26] aeos : -_-: are u long yet?
[2017-03-10 17:22:41] amaru : im fucking long
[2017-03-10 17:22:43] Winklevoss : lockhedge: Not the ETF, actual bitcoin market cap
[2017-03-10 17:22:52] -_- : Been long since the first big spike up
[2017-03-10 17:23:00] -_- : Waiting for the next one
[2017-03-10 17:23:02] amaru : -_-: sell any?
[2017-03-10 17:23:05] amaru : hehe
[2017-03-10 17:23:10] -_- : Yeah
[2017-03-10 17:23:23] petertheil : Ryan is a dufus fake news reporter
[2017-03-10 17:23:31] petertheil : /wall
[2017-03-10 17:23:34] trollbot : ``` ±$10 Bid|Ask liq : (1 hour, ) $741K (0.49%) | $985K (-21.08%) ```
[2017-03-10 17:23:40] -_- : I'm ready to increase leverage and long more on confirmation
[2017-03-10 17:23:41] amaru : -_-: that was insane on finex
[2017-03-10 17:24:10] -_- : Yeah don't want that to happen again when i long more
[2017-03-10 17:24:43] -_- : Time this right and I'll be a very happy guy. Trading from my phone too which sucks
[2017-03-10 17:24:53] amaru : -_-: you think etf is a go?
[2017-03-10 17:24:57] -_- : Yes
[2017-03-10 17:25:01] amaru : thatd be sickkkk
[2017-03-10 17:25:03] amaru : lol
[2017-03-10 17:25:24] amaru : yeah i think insiders buying was this morning
[2017-03-10 17:25:27] -_- : Ready to see my ROE 300% or 400% before adl
[2017-03-10 17:25:35] Derreck : The SEC has confirmed that a bitcoin ETF decision will be released today, despite chatter about it possibly coming Monday. Place your bets.
[2017-03-10 17:25:40] Derreck : https://twitter.com/RyanVlastelica/status/840217251223556096
[2017-03-10 17:25:52] longbydefault : ryan confirmed
[2017-03-10 17:25:56] Derreck : the most interesting part is yet to come!
[2017-03-10 17:26:23] amaru : holy shit im taking my laptop to the crpper
[2017-03-10 17:26:41] Derreck : amaru: +++
[2017-03-10 17:27:03] cryptillian : thats how elvis died
[2017-03-10 17:27:59] amaru : Derreck: you ready baby?!!!
[2017-03-10 17:28:36] Derreck : SEC working day ends @ 5:30 pm EST. Decision will be out in the next 5 hours
[2017-03-10 17:28:45] Derreck : amaru: MY BODY IS READY
[2017-03-10 17:28:46] bnaish : or not out...