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[2017-03-09 23:01:34] rejndjer : then things start getting kinky
[2017-03-09 23:01:37] jigsaw : uh yeah
[2017-03-09 23:01:48] QuinnTrades : Yeah wtf is this weekend gonna do
[2017-03-09 23:01:50] zanza : Silver is getting rammed
[2017-03-09 23:04:13] shiroe : looks like its gonna dip. wtf haha
[2017-03-09 23:06:51] rejndjer : yeah gonna dip to 800
[2017-03-09 23:06:55] rejndjer : buy now
[2017-03-09 23:07:18] QuinnTrades : if it was gonna dip to 800... wouldnt you wanna sell now
[2017-03-09 23:09:33] prospecta : COIN to the floor!!!
[2017-03-09 23:12:01] GT : god how often do you guys accidently click on H17 and shit when youre trading on swap? lol
[2017-03-09 23:13:02] rejndjer : /sentiment
[2017-03-09 23:13:04] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 73.79 / 26.21 Daily : 44.58 / 55.42 Weekly : 54.17 / 45.83 Monthly : 50.58 / 49.42```
[2017-03-09 23:15:47] shiroe : the bear wins!
[2017-03-09 23:16:12] rejndjer : wow i just realized i have ut2k4 installed on my PC, oh yeah
[2017-03-09 23:17:17] DorianWhack-A-Moto : GT: all the time. the worst is thinking swap is pumping and then you realize you're on march lol
[2017-03-09 23:17:38] DorianWhack-A-Moto : plus 1000 tabs open and no sleep.
[2017-03-09 23:17:55] GT : DorianWhack-A-Moto: man do i rep that
[2017-03-09 23:18:17] DorianWhack-A-Moto : its user error
[2017-03-09 23:18:35] GT : guys im out, gonna sleep till the early AM, may your shorts kick the midget in the knee, and your longs live like Kong!
[2017-03-09 23:18:49] QuinnTrades : tyty nn
[2017-03-09 23:20:21] Farzad2 : /rekt
[2017-03-09 23:20:21] trollbot : ``` 3 recent REKTs > 100K: ``` ``` 5 hours, 39 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 160000 @ 1199.71 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished: ``` ``` 6 hours, 46 mins ago: Liquidated short on `XBTH17`: buy 142359 @ 1214.07 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished: ``` ``` 9 hours, 45 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 232395 @ 1179.56 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire: ```
[2017-03-09 23:20:39] Farzad2 : FUCK SEC
[2017-03-09 23:20:56] Farzad2 : Announce it already
[2017-03-09 23:21:09] rapidtrades : FU SEC
[2017-03-09 23:21:21] rapidtrades : just a sec
[2017-03-09 23:21:26] rapidtrades : NOPE
[2017-03-09 23:21:57] rapidtrades : hope piwowar gets a hearth attack
[2017-03-09 23:22:16] rapidtrades : fat lazy pos
[2017-03-09 23:23:29] Rado : the announcement will be on Monday
[2017-03-09 23:23:46] Rado : so the insider leaks can put their bets on the weekend
[2017-03-09 23:26:07] rms : yeah i'm thinking monday
[2017-03-09 23:26:08] rejndjer : why cant i rek bots here like in ut2k3:(
[2017-03-09 23:26:23] rms : and the market will go crazy if nothing happens by 9AM new york time
[2017-03-09 23:26:28] rms : but announcement could happen at 7:30
[2017-03-09 23:26:43] BitNut : can anybody tell me what the average daily interest is?
[2017-03-09 23:26:48] rms : worst case for everyone is no announcement at 9AM and then rejection or withdrawal at noon
[2017-03-09 23:27:31] freundschaft : what is the latest time announcements can happen on monday?
[2017-03-09 23:27:48] sleger : 23:59
[2017-03-09 23:28:09] sleger : but most likely before 5pm EST
[2017-03-09 23:28:15] freundschaft : got it
[2017-03-09 23:28:22] freundschaft : I subscribed for SEC press releases
[2017-03-09 23:28:25] rms : yeah if it isn't by 5PM something is messed up
[2017-03-09 23:28:36] sleger : did bitmex clarify what happens to COIN if we have nothing by monday
[2017-03-09 23:28:55] rms : no
[2017-03-09 23:29:06] rms : they don't like acknowledging that their contract is poorly written
[2017-03-09 23:29:07] lockhedge : https://blog.bitmex.com/site_announcement/notice-regarding-coin-prediction-futures/
[2017-03-09 23:29:10] j8 : it's always been default acceptance
[2017-03-09 23:29:29] rms : well, yeah, if it's default acceptance "yes" wins
[2017-03-09 23:29:41] rms : if there is an unprecedented and illegal formal delay, the contract is poorly defined
[2017-03-09 23:29:45] j8 : hearing nothing = default acceptance
[2017-03-09 23:29:51] rms : and i don't see what they could do besides refund everyone
[2017-03-09 23:29:58] sleger : j8: what if they say, we changed the rule, we'll decide in a month
[2017-03-09 23:30:00] rms : at the price they paid
[2017-03-09 23:30:21] rms : the contract doesn't define that case, bitmex gets sort of fucked, and all of the contract holders will be pissed off no matter what
[2017-03-09 23:30:33] rms : my guess is refund everyone
[2017-03-09 23:30:39] sleger : thats why you formulate a contract in a smart way
[2017-03-09 23:30:41] sleger : such as :
[2017-03-09 23:30:43] j8 : yeah then they'd have to do something, that's supposedly not possible but i dunno
[2017-03-09 23:30:54] sleger : "if etf is approved by date X then 100 else 0"
[2017-03-09 23:31:10] MrRGnome : They did do exactly that @sleger
[2017-03-09 23:31:17] sleger : MrRGnome: they did ?
[2017-03-09 23:31:27] sleger : i thought that was unclear
[2017-03-09 23:31:41] sleger : COIN will settle at 0 if the SEC does not approve the proposed rule change. COIN will settle at 100 if the SEC approves the proposed rule change.
[2017-03-09 23:31:45] sleger : THAT is not clear
[2017-03-09 23:31:54] j8 : Note: this includes the scenario in which the SEC does not disapprove the rule change by March 11, as this implies an automatic approval
[2017-03-09 23:31:59] sleger : MrRGnome: so no they didnt
[2017-03-09 23:32:02] j8 : half unclear
[2017-03-09 23:32:10] kryptopojken : sooo
[2017-03-09 23:32:16] j8 : extending would be not disapproving
[2017-03-09 23:32:22] kryptopojken : i guess we're all gonna be either margin called or ADL'd tomorrow?
[2017-03-09 23:32:33] sleger : if they explicitly say stg like we wait for the SEC trump guy to decide ...
[2017-03-09 23:32:36] MrRGnome : "If etf is approved or (date.now > date x && !denied) then 100 else 0
[2017-03-09 23:32:42] MrRGnome : Does that satisfy you?
[2017-03-09 23:32:59] MrRGnome : That's the logic outlined in the contract specifications
[2017-03-09 23:33:04] sleger : MrRGnome: (Note: this includes the scenario in which the SEC does not disapprove the rule change by March 11, as this implies an automatic approval)
[2017-03-09 23:33:06] j8 : with all other contracts, they reserve the right to delay settlement if it's not possible to obtain a settlement price
[2017-03-09 23:33:10] sleger : that is only half clear
[2017-03-09 23:33:32] MrRGnome : sleger: What's unclear about that.
[2017-03-09 23:33:40] sleger : if they change the rule such that no answer does not mean approval
[2017-03-09 23:34:25] rms : which i think is not at all unlikely
[2017-03-09 23:34:29] sleger : I have a very large -41 position on coin so dont mess with that
[2017-03-09 23:34:48] sleger : rms: yes that was my point, its unlikely not impossible
[2017-03-09 23:34:51] MrRGnome : You're saying that it doesn't cover the potential case that the securities act of 1933 is amended or repealed? @sleger
[2017-03-09 23:35:02] rms : or illegally ignored
[2017-03-09 23:35:09] sleger : MrRGnome: that they somehow change the rule yes
[2017-03-09 23:35:50] MrRGnome : sleger: Well to change the rule would be to amend or repeal the securities act of 1933, just so it's clear what we're talking about
[2017-03-09 23:36:01] herpinator : what do you guys think of this? https://steemit.com/bitcoin/@tlogs/why-the-coin-etf-will-receive-sec-approval-a-detailed-analysis
[2017-03-09 23:36:04] DorianWhack-A-Moto : sleger: you betting against COIN?
[2017-03-09 23:36:15] sleger : MrRGnome: an addendum is not a complete repeal
[2017-03-09 23:36:20] aguia7 : /sentiment
[2017-03-09 23:36:23] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 63.31 / 36.69 Daily : 41.71 / 58.29 Weekly : 54.16 / 45.84 Monthly : 50.58 / 49.42```
[2017-03-09 23:36:27] aguia7 : http://www.tradingview.com/x/Er9W901q
[2017-03-09 23:36:28] MrRGnome : Which is why I said amend or repeal. @sleger
[2017-03-09 23:36:30] sleger : DorianWhack-A-Moto: with the full force of fourty and one dollars yes
[2017-03-09 23:36:43] j8 : dollars?
[2017-03-09 23:36:50] sleger : MrRGnome: ok so then we are on the same page. The contract could have been cleared like I said
[2017-03-09 23:36:55] sleger : j8: real USD yeah
[2017-03-09 23:36:59] sleger : no joking here
[2017-03-09 23:37:10] rapidtrades : what a feg
[2017-03-09 23:37:12] prospecta : so youre all in sleger?
[2017-03-09 23:37:12] DorianWhack-A-Moto : sleger: max profit you should have got in above 50, im the other way in under 50.
[2017-03-09 23:37:14] Apocalyptic : thought 41 BTC
[2017-03-09 23:37:24] sleger : DorianWhack-A-Moto: I sold at 45
[2017-03-09 23:37:30] MrRGnome : sleger: I just want it to be clear that to amend or repeal is not a decision left up to the SEC, and is a transparent process which occurs not at all spontaneously through the legislative bodies.
[2017-03-09 23:37:41] MrRGnome : sleger: It's something that you can see coming and accommodate.
[2017-03-09 23:37:52] lockhedge : sleger: "if they change the rule such that no answer does not mean approval" that's law, the Securities Exchange Act https://www.sec.gov/about/laws/sea34.pdf (p. 288) it can't be changed by the SEC
[2017-03-09 23:38:07] DorianWhack-A-Moto : sleger: i might put an equal size opposite position at same price as long. can't lose.
[2017-03-09 23:38:08] aguia7 : If the ETF Coin is approved, will it have the same price as Bitcoin? How it works ?
[2017-03-09 23:38:28] rapidtrades : dude relax its gonna be rejected tomorr
[2017-03-09 23:38:31] sleger : aguia7: supply and demand
[2017-03-09 23:38:32] DorianWhack-A-Moto : my COIN will cancel itself and open a wormhole
[2017-03-09 23:38:41] sleger : rapidtrades: you also said it wouldnt even get close to the deadline
[2017-03-09 23:38:58] rapidtrades : sleger: it doesn't matter Loser
[2017-03-09 23:39:07] rapidtrades : keep hedging punk
[2017-03-09 23:39:08] DorianWhack-A-Moto : rapidtrades: you still holding your 8xx short?
[2017-03-09 23:39:14] MrRGnome : To be fair most of the time it doesn't get close tot he deadline. pretty abnormal situation.
[2017-03-09 23:39:15] rapidtrades : hedgefeg
[2017-03-09 23:39:19] rapidtrades : arbfeg
[2017-03-09 23:40:46] Zen Trader : /sentiment
[2017-03-09 23:40:48] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 64.23 / 35.77 Daily : 41.90 / 58.10 Weekly : 54.15 / 45.85 Monthly : 50.58 / 49.42```
[2017-03-09 23:40:57] rms : i'm still surprised COIN is so high here
[2017-03-09 23:41:15] Apocalyptic : rms: someone pumped it an hour ago
[2017-03-09 23:41:28] rapidtrades : its the same ppl that pumped ZEC to 10
[2017-03-09 23:41:37] MrRGnome : rapidtrades: you?
[2017-03-09 23:41:38] rapidtrades : f*cked in the head
[2017-03-09 23:41:50] lockhedge : rms: why "still", a withdrawal gets more and more unlikely and a default approval gets more and more likely
[2017-03-09 23:41:57] sleger : rapidtrades: you tried to pump it above 3 yoursel
[2017-03-09 23:42:00] sleger : and failed
[2017-03-09 23:42:12] rapidtrades : lockhedge: yeah it went up from 5% to 6%
[2017-03-09 23:42:38] MrRGnome : lockhedge: approval by default is by far the least likely outcome. It's never been allowed to happen.
[2017-03-09 23:42:55] shapeshifter : sleger: pumping zec lol
[2017-03-09 23:43:26] rapidtrades : if they wanted to approve teh god dam ETF they wouldn't wait last minute with only 2/5 commis
[2017-03-09 23:43:41] rapidtrades : its just a FAKE NEWS story palnted by bulls after the Chynoya crash
[2017-03-09 23:43:42] rejndjer : SEC be like, yeah we've been just teasing u these last 4 years, we no care about no bitcoin, u can have your etf
[2017-03-09 23:43:59] startChat : rapidtrades: Where did you get your SEC experience?
[2017-03-09 23:44:12] rejndjer : startChat: same as everyone here
[2017-03-09 23:44:15] rapidtrades : its common sense moran
[2017-03-09 23:44:19] prospecta : COIN should really be around 25% right now
[2017-03-09 23:44:25] MrRGnome : Yeah you stupid MORAN.
[2017-03-09 23:44:33] prospecta : you MORAN
[2017-03-09 23:44:34] rapidtrades : COIN should be <10%
[2017-03-09 23:44:35] rejndjer : morano
[2017-03-09 23:44:40] lockhedge : default approval would make more sense then approval by issuing an order in this case (because of the impact of the SEC's decision on volatility)
[2017-03-09 23:44:42] startChat : rapidtrades: should?
[2017-03-09 23:44:46] startChat : have u bet on that?
[2017-03-09 23:44:56] rapidtrades : duh
[2017-03-09 23:45:10] MrRGnome : He is very, very short and has been since ~800 @startChat
[2017-03-09 23:45:34] MrRGnome : I'd say losing makes him grumpy but he is just as irritable when he's winning.
[2017-03-09 23:45:51] bingbongfly : MrRGnome: we havn't seen him with if he has that position!
[2017-03-09 23:45:54] rapidtrades : not rly, i tend to keep quiet when im winning
[2017-03-09 23:45:55] Zen Trader : lockhedge: i AGREE
[2017-03-09 23:45:56] bingbongfly : dat short gotta sweat
[2017-03-09 23:46:09] lockhedge : *than
[2017-03-09 23:46:29] shapeshifter : rapidtrades: never in fact ahah
[2017-03-09 23:47:04] rapidtrades : i will shit on every long when we drop <900 tho
[2017-03-09 23:47:08] rapidtrades : cos u have no class
[2017-03-09 23:47:16] Zen Trader : COIN ETF likely hood up
[2017-03-09 23:47:26] rapidtrades : and u have to reap what u sew mofos
[2017-03-09 23:47:32] shapeshifter : rapidtrades: says the ones swearing all day long...
[2017-03-09 23:48:07] rapidtrades : calling smone a moran is swearing, its a statement of fact
[2017-03-09 23:48:19] rapidtrades : moran
[2017-03-09 23:48:22] MrRGnome : Yeah it is, Iyou moran
[2017-03-09 23:48:37] rapidtrades : SHUT UP MORAN
[2017-03-09 23:48:41] MrRGnome : stop cussing or I'm going to tell
[2017-03-09 23:49:08] MrRGnome : I'm too smort for you moran!
[2017-03-09 23:49:10] lockhedge : on the other hand, a late disapproval makes more sense than a late approval by issuing an order (because usually it takes much more time and good legal arguments to write a disapproval order)
[2017-03-09 23:49:15] prospecta : FUCKING CUNT
[2017-03-09 23:49:17] rapidtrades : guess its time to east cos no decision is coming today
[2017-03-09 23:49:31] prospecta : NIGGER
[2017-03-09 23:49:56] rapidtrades : u guys think its safe?
[2017-03-09 23:49:59] prospecta : FUCKING NIGGER
[2017-03-09 23:50:00] l3f : Yo bitmex, if you input an usd order and the order has decimal points, it says it has found an internal inconsistency
[2017-03-09 23:50:16] l3f : order with decimal points in the quantity
[2017-03-09 23:50:29] j8 : the input box doesn't let me put decimals
[2017-03-09 23:50:53] l3f : j8: Copy paste it in
[2017-03-09 23:51:31] j8 : so it does, maybe let sam know. who the heck copy pastes qty though?
[2017-03-09 23:51:41] Zen Trader : We are running Tradeoff Analytics on Watsons IBM cloud and it appears that an approval is more likely than not
[2017-03-09 23:52:08] l3f : j8: When you're calculating your usd balance to hedge
[2017-03-09 23:52:49] Apocalyptic : l3f: a contract is not divisible
[2017-03-09 23:52:49] shapeshifter : Zen Trader: pure trolling here uh?
[2017-03-09 23:52:56] l3f : Apocalyptic: I know
[2017-03-09 23:53:06] l3f : I'm just saying copying pasting a decimal point rekts the ui
[2017-03-09 23:53:19] Apocalyptic : fair enough
[2017-03-09 23:53:20] j8 : yes totally valid
[2017-03-09 23:53:39] j8 : sam likes to know about that sort of thing
[2017-03-09 23:53:53] aandy : ya baby
[2017-03-10 00:00:09] l3f : BitMEX_Sam: try copy pasting a decimal point into the quantity and attempt to place that order,
[2017-03-10 00:00:16] l3f : That should notify him
[2017-03-10 00:03:16] QuinnTrades : /price
[2017-03-10 00:03:19] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1195.66 (19.57%) Bitfinex : 1196.30 (19.63%) The Woodchipper : 1193.52 (19.35%) itBit : 1195.59 (19.56%) Kraken : 1187.19 (18.72%) GDAX : 1198.29 (19.83%) SLQ : ```
[2017-03-10 00:03:21] zy : what's with the pump?
[2017-03-10 00:03:23] shiroe : happroved!
[2017-03-10 00:03:46] Doom : finally twins
[2017-03-10 00:03:48] shiroe : weee
[2017-03-10 00:04:08] Apocalyptic : nothing on sec's website
[2017-03-10 00:04:16] Doom : lying xD
[2017-03-10 00:04:20] sleger : keep refreshing
[2017-03-10 00:04:25] zy : to the moon
[2017-03-10 00:04:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTH17`: buy 29994 @ 1210.96
[2017-03-10 00:04:41] shiroe : it was a whisper first, then days later it will be on the site.
[2017-03-10 00:04:50] Zen Trader : I say we go up till 3 am then sharply down for the morning and as the day ends tomorrow we rise.
[2017-03-10 00:04:59] -_- : WTF XBTH17
[2017-03-10 00:05:07] Doom : for price in long term its better if etf is declined
[2017-03-10 00:05:10] -_- : i close and it randomly pumps $20
[2017-03-10 00:05:17] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 100 @ 1195.68
[2017-03-10 00:05:17] REKT : Choppy waters make solid seamen!
[2017-03-10 00:05:22] Zen Trader : -_-: Because you closed it
[2017-03-10 00:05:40] Apocalyptic : -_-: random pumps are the best pumps
[2017-03-10 00:05:41] -_- : goes from $9 premium to $23
[2017-03-10 00:05:52] -_- : someone must have closed a short
[2017-03-10 00:05:56] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 500 @ 1196.11
[2017-03-10 00:05:57] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 900 @ 1196.41
[2017-03-10 00:06:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 880 @ 1196.88
[2017-03-10 00:06:11] tb : etf approved?
[2017-03-10 00:06:24] rejndjer : /rekt
[2017-03-10 00:06:24] trollbot : ``` 3 recent REKTs > 100K: ``` ``` 6 hours, 25 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 160000 @ 1199.71 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished: ``` ``` 7 hours, 32 mins ago: Liquidated short on `XBTH17`: buy 142359 @ 1214.07 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished: ``` ``` 10 hours, 31 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 232395 @ 1179.56 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire: ```
[2017-03-10 00:06:52] -_- : xbth17 went 1224 to 1209 to 1219 to 1209
[2017-03-10 00:07:00] -_- : now btc back to 1200
[2017-03-10 00:07:41] rejndjer : Zen Trader: what time zone u talking about
[2017-03-10 00:07:41] -_- : /rrekt
[2017-03-10 00:07:41] trollbot : ``` 3 all time high REKTs: ``` ``` 75 hours, 22 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 390000 @ 1300.55 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire: ``` ``` 67 hours, 11 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 350000 @ 1277.73 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire: ``` ``` 60 hours, 30 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 246999 @ 1208.93 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire: ```
[2017-03-10 00:10:02] aguia7 : News: Satoshi nakamoto Will be president of the United States. Now the bitcoin goes to 1 million. XD
[2017-03-10 00:10:21] rejndjer : president of milky way
[2017-03-10 00:10:33] aguia7 : KKKK XD
[2017-03-10 00:10:38] Doom : trumps nickname is satoshi
[2017-03-10 00:11:38] rejndjer : can i open short on mar31 while im shorting swap?
[2017-03-10 00:12:13] rejndjer : or can i only trade 1 instrument?
[2017-03-10 00:12:56] rapidtrades : short em all bra
[2017-03-10 00:13:21] rapidtrades : short COIN while ur at it
[2017-03-10 00:13:46] rejndjer : nah dont wanna short COIN, its too weird
[2017-03-10 00:14:57] rapidtrades : then FU bra
[2017-03-10 00:16:08] coolmans : how to buy xbth17?
[2017-03-10 00:18:20] Farzad2 : /guide
[2017-03-10 00:18:20] trollbot : ``` Dear newcomer Please watch this video to get started with BitMex: ``` https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSh2bM3UP04 ``` Also make sure to read the docs: ``` https://www.bitmex.com/app/tradingOverview ``` Remember to trade small with low leverage until you understand how things work, otherwise you will get liquidated (REKT) pretty soon :boom: ```
[2017-03-10 00:28:42] KingTuna : StabilisiNG AT $1200?
[2017-03-10 00:28:52] KingTuna : What does this mean fellas
[2017-03-10 00:28:55] KingTuna : .....
[2017-03-10 00:30:53] Zen Trader : /sentiment
[2017-03-10 00:30:55] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 34.17 / 65.83 Daily : 41.81 / 58.19 Weekly : 54.07 / 45.93 Monthly : 50.57 / 49.43```
[2017-03-10 00:32:41] -_- : damn
[2017-03-10 00:32:46] -_- : i got shaken out
[2017-03-10 00:32:47] -_- : sucks
[2017-03-10 00:32:51] Zen Trader : We are going to 1323
[2017-03-10 00:32:52] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 459 @ 1203.19
[2017-03-10 00:33:26] shiroe : the news is spreading like wildfire for tomorrow.
[2017-03-10 00:33:40] lockhedge : or not
[2017-03-10 00:34:26] Sultan Pepper : Farzad2: hey farzad, that's a *good* feature, thanks!
[2017-03-10 00:34:45] Farzad2 : Sultan Pepper: yw :)
[2017-03-10 00:35:05] Winklevoss : If I want to put a limit long order @ 1300 with auto exit @1700 and also place a limit short order order @ 990 to close @ 700, do I have to the value of both margins in my wallet ready
[2017-03-10 00:39:51] rapidtrades : keep pumping retards
[2017-03-10 00:41:03] shiroe : /price
[2017-03-10 00:41:06] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1204.38 (0.73%) Bitfinex : 1205.60 (0.78%) The Woodchipper : 1203.00 (0.79%) itBit : 1204.18 (0.72%) Kraken : 1193.89 (0.56%) GDAX : 1206.00 (0.64%) SLQ : 37 mins```
[2017-03-10 00:41:29] startChat : Winklevoss: stop loss and take profit orders. use "close on trigger" or order will not trigger
[2017-03-10 00:44:42] aethlios : bitmex here??? why don't you change now to 2hour funding?? since we all expect huge volatility ahead. until 8 hour notice pass means 12 or 16 hours until 2 hours periods start.
[2017-03-10 00:45:41] Winklevoss : aethlios: more frequent funding = greater payout for winners?
[2017-03-10 00:46:20] aethlios : Winklevoss: funding can average to zero if no trend.
[2017-03-10 00:47:13] Winklevoss : aethlios: smooths out volatility hits in a way for losers right?
[2017-03-10 00:48:01] aethlios : Winklevoss: yes loosers get a compensation for keeping the wrong side, this is a swap and never settles.
[2017-03-10 00:48:45] Winklevoss : I have misunderstood, I thought losers pay winners @ funding
[2017-03-10 00:50:08] aethlios : Winklevoss: https://www.bitmex.com/app/fundingHistory
[2017-03-10 00:50:08] -_- : going back down. nice little trap for you bulls
[2017-03-10 00:50:29] Winklevoss : aethlios: thx
[2017-03-10 00:50:36] aethlios : Winklevoss: here you see the history, shorts get paid while longs profit from rhe up trend
[2017-03-10 00:51:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 12900 @ 1198.87
[2017-03-10 00:51:24] aethlios : Winklevoss: if we crash then swap will be in discount and compensate longs who will be losing
[2017-03-10 00:51:29] micmix : Winklevoss: can you call SEC and tell them to hurry up with the decision? I'm tired of waiting
[2017-03-10 00:52:57] Winklevoss : micmix: They accepted it two weeks ago, we've been having orgies parties. Everyone's here....Zuckerburg, Satoshi, Yellen, Trump
[2017-03-10 00:53:21] zy : Wait so you guys settled with zuckerburg?
[2017-03-10 00:53:38] zy : Can't believe you did that
[2017-03-10 00:53:52] micmix : Winklevoss: Satoshi and Yellen in one room? that will not end well
[2017-03-10 00:54:21] Winklevoss : micmix: Plot twist Satoshi is Yellen.
[2017-03-10 00:54:46] micmix : makes sense, if you can't fight them join them
[2017-03-10 00:57:16] aguia7 : go to 1212
[2017-03-10 00:59:07] aguia7 : micmix: bitcoin jr baby. XD
[2017-03-10 01:01:08] zy : Friday it is then
[2017-03-10 01:02:57] Freewizard : /sentiment
[2017-03-10 01:03:00] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 36.87 / 63.13 Daily : 39.67 / 60.33 Weekly : 54.05 / 45.95 Monthly : 50.56 / 49.44```
[2017-03-10 01:03:50] Freewizard : /guide
[2017-03-10 01:03:50] trollbot : ``` Dear newcomer Please watch this video to get started with BitMex: ``` https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSh2bM3UP04 ``` Also make sure to read the docs: ``` https://www.bitmex.com/app/tradingOverview ``` Remember to trade small with low leverage until you understand how things work, otherwise you will get liquidated (REKT) pretty soon :boom: ```
[2017-03-10 01:08:36] startChat : How many people here have a trezor?
[2017-03-10 01:10:07] Rune : not me
[2017-03-10 01:11:00] zy : tails + electrum is free you know
[2017-03-10 01:12:51] micmix : startChat: have 2
[2017-03-10 01:13:38] startChat : I would love to have full Trezor integration with bitmex.
[2017-03-10 01:13:59] startChat : login/ withdrawl confirmation all on hardware device
[2017-03-10 01:14:07] startChat : backedup same as bitcoin
[2017-03-10 01:16:27] micmix : yeah, would be nice
[2017-03-10 01:16:39] micmix : Sam promised U2F login with Trezor soon
[2017-03-10 01:20:32] startChat : U2F is really important first step. will work with many yubikey also I beleive
[2017-03-10 01:21:02] Farzad : guys, if I have 2 stop orders, one buy above price and one sell below price. will execution of one cancel the other one ?
[2017-03-10 01:22:54] Farzad : no one ?
[2017-03-10 01:23:02] Farzad : paging mods !
[2017-03-10 01:23:26] startChat : if using 'close on trigger'
[2017-03-10 01:25:52] BitMEX_John : Farzad: @startChat is correct, if you have 'close on trigger' enabled all other orders on that position will be closed on trigger
[2017-03-10 01:26:28] Zen Trader : ASSANGE IS ALIVE
[2017-03-10 01:26:40] Farzad : ok ty
[2017-03-10 01:34:30] Guest51156 : Zen Trader: and we learned ETF info with our hacking. Tomorrow is going to be a good day for the b
[2017-03-10 01:34:37] Guest51156 : ulls !!!!!!
[2017-03-10 01:37:09] Dynamix : Drop maybe to 1100??
[2017-03-10 01:37:14] zy : what goes up must come down
[2017-03-10 01:37:35] zy : TO DA MOON
[2017-03-10 01:46:48] Winklevoss : Does an unfilled stop order reduce your balance?
[2017-03-10 01:46:58] zy : nope
[2017-03-10 01:48:29] BitMEX_John : Winklevoss: orders that will reduce your position size do not require margin to be open
[2017-03-10 01:53:55] sleger : https://steemit.com/bitcoin/@tlogs/why-the-coin-etf-will-receive-sec-approval-a-detailed-analysis#
[2017-03-10 01:55:34] REKT : Liquidated short on `DASH7D`: buy 663 @ 0.044200
[2017-03-10 02:00:28] smokim87 : watching dash, might try a small short at the previous high in case it's a double top
[2017-03-10 02:07:28] cryptokeeper : sleger: there is no doubt it is going to happen at some point.. but delayed is the keyword.
[2017-03-10 02:07:39] Rune : im tired of seeing dash go up
[2017-03-10 02:08:05] sleger : cryptokeeper: I only post those to piss off rapid
[2017-03-10 02:08:10] cryptokeeper : sleger: lol
[2017-03-10 02:08:30] cryptokeeper : to add to things... SEC have been known not to approve but to delay due to price speculation
[2017-03-10 02:08:41] cryptokeeper : so they might also be like... ok bitcoin too high... let it cool down then go time
[2017-03-10 02:08:52] sleger : from what i read they never delayed past the last deadline which is now, by rule
[2017-03-10 02:09:03] cryptokeeper : yeah who knows
[2017-03-10 02:09:13] cryptokeeper : many think it will pass many dont
[2017-03-10 02:09:33] cryptokeeper : even if it does... it is a long ways off to hit market
[2017-03-10 02:10:03] sleger : yes but we have to hit 2000+ to liq rapid
[2017-03-10 02:10:24] cryptokeeper : 2000 now?
[2017-03-10 02:10:54] cryptokeeper : last time i recall he was doomed at 12hun
[2017-03-10 02:10:58] sleger : after approval
[2017-03-10 02:11:07] sleger : no he said his liq is 2000+
[2017-03-10 02:11:12] cryptokeeper : lol
[2017-03-10 02:21:40] foobar : anyone know how the announcment will be made. is there a website i can keep refreshing to know the outcome as soon as it happens?
[2017-03-10 02:22:33] lockhedge : foobar: https://www.sec.gov/rules/sro/batsbzx.htm
[2017-03-10 02:22:41] rms : what's the actual pressure that's driving dash up so much?
[2017-03-10 02:23:07] startChat : rms: marketing
[2017-03-10 02:26:17] startChat : claim to fix the "governance issue"
[2017-03-10 02:29:01] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: buy 360 @ 0.015130
[2017-03-10 02:33:44] finnagetdooped : i wonder how much rapids fees are atm
[2017-03-10 02:38:26] sleger : finnagetdooped: https://www.bitmex.com/app/fees
[2017-03-10 02:42:31] rapidtrades : no i said my liq is above 2k
[2017-03-10 02:42:43] rapidtrades : obv im not gonna let it go that far with ETF
[2017-03-10 02:44:16] rapidtrades : another reminder for shorts to use isolated margin
[2017-03-10 02:44:30] rapidtrades : don't let the bastards get free money
[2017-03-10 02:44:39] elmorte : that's for pu$$ies
[2017-03-10 02:44:39] sleger : dont be stupid
[2017-03-10 02:44:50] elmorte : that's how you get shaken out :p
[2017-03-10 02:44:54] sleger : saying that will work both ways, you just reminded longs to ADL you dummy @rapidtrades
[2017-03-10 02:44:54] rapidtrades : I WANT ALL OF THEM ADLed ABOVE 1300
[2017-03-10 02:45:15] rapidtrades : sleger: longs are too stupid to take my advice
[2017-03-10 02:45:27] elmorte : too busy counting monies
[2017-03-10 02:45:29] rapidtrades : they're all highly leveraged anyway
[2017-03-10 02:45:32] sleger : in general your advice sucks anyways
[2017-03-10 02:45:35] sleger : buy ZEC at 3
[2017-03-10 02:45:38] sleger : sell btc at 800
[2017-03-10 02:45:46] rapidtrades : fu sleger
[2017-03-10 02:46:15] sleger : maybe redeem yourself
[2017-03-10 02:46:17] sleger : buy ETH
[2017-03-10 02:46:22] sleger : god will forgive you
[2017-03-10 02:46:40] rapidtrades : u held ETH through 30% DD? 50% DD? so shut it
[2017-03-10 02:46:46] rapidtrades : u didn't buy at the lows
[2017-03-10 02:47:28] rapidtrades : u also shorted ZEC and got blown out
[2017-03-10 02:47:36] elmorte : what's DD? dump?
[2017-03-10 02:47:45] rapidtrades : drawdown
[2017-03-10 02:47:51] elmorte : ah k
[2017-03-10 02:48:23] rapidtrades : he waited like +6 months for ETH to turn around and noone gave him shit
[2017-03-10 02:48:40] rapidtrades : i get railed every day
[2017-03-10 02:49:05] sleger : rapidtrades: i started buying at 12.5$
[2017-03-10 02:50:41] sleger : and bought all the way down and some on the way back up
[2017-03-10 02:50:49] sleger : sold some above 20$ but not much
[2017-03-10 02:51:26] rapidtrades : and eth/usd was down to $5.8 in november
[2017-03-10 02:51:46] rapidtrades : 54% DD
[2017-03-10 02:51:55] sleger : no because i started buying there
[2017-03-10 02:52:01] sleger : i had a small position at 12.5
[2017-03-10 02:52:01] rapidtrades : pretty much same as mine
[2017-03-10 02:52:05] sleger : not the one i had
[2017-03-10 02:52:20] sleger : *have
[2017-03-10 02:52:30] rapidtrades : in any case, u suck
[2017-03-10 02:52:36] sleger : why ?
[2017-03-10 02:53:04] sleger : im up a couple hundred Gs on my eth but i suck ?
[2017-03-10 02:53:05] rapidtrades : cos u missed the low by 50% bra
[2017-03-10 02:53:22] sleger : oh ok i could have made more i see
[2017-03-10 02:53:30] sleger : i'll try to improve in the future
[2017-03-10 02:54:01] rapidtrades : point is don't throw stones when u live in a glass house bish
[2017-03-10 02:54:31] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: buy 10 @ 0.015250
[2017-03-10 02:54:38] sleger : i rent so i dont care
[2017-03-10 02:56:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 2403 @ 1197.04
[2017-03-10 02:56:33] Sultan Pepper : sleger: why do you rent? You'll never see that money again
[2017-03-10 02:56:39] rapidtrades : i think this whole space will be gone in 5 yrs
[2017-03-10 02:56:47] sleger : Sultan Pepper: dude you need to learn so much
[2017-03-10 02:57:04] sleger : I own 50+ apartments that I rent out, but yes I rent the one I live in
[2017-03-10 02:57:15] sleger : rapidtrades: bitmex trollbox ?
[2017-03-10 02:57:23] Sultan Pepper : sleger: it was a serious question, but of course i have plenty to learn
[2017-03-10 02:57:29] rapidtrades : onerous regulation will kill innovation and bitcoiners missed the chance early on to find their 'killer app'
[2017-03-10 02:57:44] sleger : Sultan Pepper: coz paying 10k for a 3m$ house is cheap
[2017-03-10 02:57:44] rapidtrades : its too late now
[2017-03-10 02:57:54] rapidtrades : whats happening in china will happen in US too
[2017-03-10 02:58:08] sleger : rapidtrades: ETH is the future
[2017-03-10 02:58:23] startChat : if the future is 10 months
[2017-03-10 02:58:34] rapidtrades : ETH is used even less in commerce
[2017-03-10 02:58:49] Sultan Pepper : sleger: i don't follow. 10k a month?
[2017-03-10 02:58:54] rapidtrades : what use cases does ETH have?
[2017-03-10 02:58:56] sleger : yes @Sultan Pepper
[2017-03-10 02:59:04] sleger : rapidtrades: making me $$ is 1.
[2017-03-10 02:59:08] rapidtrades : what problems does it solve?
[2017-03-10 02:59:15] sleger : smart contract
[2017-03-10 02:59:19] sleger : peer to peer insurance
[2017-03-10 02:59:23] sleger : peer to peer loans
[2017-03-10 02:59:35] Sultan Pepper : sleger: but equity
[2017-03-10 02:59:35] sleger : everything decentralized that can be programmed
[2017-03-10 02:59:42] rapidtrades : that idea ell flat on its face with the DAO
[2017-03-10 03:00:10] startChat : rapidtrades: how many drugs have been bought with ETH?
[2017-03-10 03:00:22] sleger : Sultan Pepper: if you have 3m$ you prefer to buy a house pay 0 rent and have 0$ left, or rent 10k a month and invest 3m$ at 10% a year ?
[2017-03-10 03:00:29] rapidtrades : problem with bitcocin ETH etc is that the community can do any changes it wants
[2017-03-10 03:00:49] rapidtrades : DAO was supposed to be irreversible
[2017-03-10 03:00:54] sleger : rapidtrades: dao was a stupid idea / scam that wasnt made BY eth anyways
[2017-03-10 03:01:08] startChat : ETH really tarnished the idea of bitcoin
[2017-03-10 03:01:08] sleger : nothing was supposed TO BE something
[2017-03-10 03:01:14] rapidtrades : but the fork was done by ETH ppl
[2017-03-10 03:01:15] sleger : its all decentralized / vote based
[2017-03-10 03:01:23] sleger : people voted to rescue DAO dummies unfortunately
[2017-03-10 03:01:28] rapidtrades : so its the community that will ALWAYS create problems
[2017-03-10 03:01:34] sleger : yes because thats what people wanted
[2017-03-10 03:01:37] Sultan Pepper : sleger: i'm just saying, given a choice of 10k rent or 10k mortgage, wouldn't you want to see some or more than that back when you sell?
[2017-03-10 03:01:50] startChat : rapidtrades: have you seen Abra?
[2017-03-10 03:02:00] rapidtrades : no clue what that is
[2017-03-10 03:02:03] sleger : Sultan Pepper: to get a mortgage you have to put 20% down payment at least
[2017-03-10 03:02:11] startChat : rapidtrades: real use of BTC
[2017-03-10 03:02:11] rapidtrades : brb need to eat
[2017-03-10 03:02:21] Sultan Pepper : sleger: sure, but it comes back when you sell
[2017-03-10 03:02:36] sleger : Sultan Pepper: how much does it return in the meantie
[2017-03-10 03:02:43] startChat : Sultan Pepper: What if you know of a better investment for that money
[2017-03-10 03:02:44] sleger : try to do some maths
[2017-03-10 03:02:57] startChat : sleger: common way of thinking, people wnat to "own"
[2017-03-10 03:03:01] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: buy 1 @ 0.015330
[2017-03-10 03:03:11] startChat : math won't even get through
[2017-03-10 03:03:34] sleger : startChat: he isnt even trying to think why i own apartments but rent mine
[2017-03-10 03:04:31] Sultan Pepper : sleger: can you consistently pull 10k per month with 600k capital?
[2017-03-10 03:04:46] Sultan Pepper : sleger: i fully understand landlording
[2017-03-10 03:04:48] sleger : 600k ??
[2017-03-10 03:05:00] Sultan Pepper : 20% of 3m
[2017-03-10 03:05:03] sleger : and you think mortgages are at 0% ?
[2017-03-10 03:05:13] Sultan Pepper : True
[2017-03-10 03:05:40] sleger : think of it the other way what do you think its my landlord return ?
[2017-03-10 03:06:04] Sultan Pepper : does your profit pay rent?
[2017-03-10 03:06:24] Sultan Pepper : 50+ units i'd hope ao
[2017-03-10 03:06:26] Sultan Pepper : so
[2017-03-10 03:08:10] sleger : these units are not 3m$ apartments though
[2017-03-10 03:08:31] Sultan Pepper : sleger: would you reccomend, for a green like me, to mortgage a 2-3 unit place and live in one unit?
[2017-03-10 03:08:51] Sultan Pepper : High demand units
[2017-03-10 03:09:15] sleger : thats a stupid question, if everything else equal the property is 500k or 1m$ then the answer might not be the same
[2017-03-10 03:09:20] sleger : how could I know
[2017-03-10 03:09:29] Sultan Pepper : True
[2017-03-10 03:09:42] Sultan Pepper : thanks for schoolin by the way
[2017-03-10 03:11:23] Sultan Pepper : So 200 profit on each unit, per month, assuming max capacity. What do your apartments rent for?
[2017-03-10 03:11:28] Sultan Pepper : sleger:
[2017-03-10 03:11:54] sleger : 600-700 avg
[2017-03-10 03:13:08] Sultan Pepper : So mortgage on each is 4-5 per month, unless all are payed off?
[2017-03-10 03:13:27] sleger : 4000 per month per unit ??
[2017-03-10 03:13:35] Sultan Pepper : 400-500
[2017-03-10 03:13:43] sleger : much less
[2017-03-10 03:14:01] sleger : 80
[2017-03-10 03:14:01] Sultan Pepper : wow
[2017-03-10 03:14:35] Sultan Pepper : Seriously?
[2017-03-10 03:14:49] sleger : no, 100 of interest, 65 of principal, 165 per door - ish
[2017-03-10 03:15:05] sleger : i wasnt sure, just looked my spsheet
[2017-03-10 03:15:56] Sultan Pepper : That's so cheap. Are we talkin trap houses?
[2017-03-10 03:16:01] elmorte : Sounds like sleger is in the giving mood.
[2017-03-10 03:16:16] sleger : no they're decent
[2017-03-10 03:16:16] elmorte : Hold your hands out everybody!
[2017-03-10 03:16:32] sleger : but i wouldnt live there
[2017-03-10 03:16:48] Sultan Pepper : sleger: well you live in a 3m house
[2017-03-10 03:16:48] elmorte : Sultan Pepper: last time he sent everyone a BTC...mind you it was only $400 at the time
[2017-03-10 03:16:56] elmorte : Now...we have to rely on rapid :(
[2017-03-10 03:17:07] sleger : lol
[2017-03-10 03:17:13] Sultan Pepper : elmorte: i'm just here for the advice!
[2017-03-10 03:18:31] elmorte : that's why I said he's in the giving mood :p
[2017-03-10 03:18:39] elmorte : You wouldn't get advice if he wasnt
[2017-03-10 03:19:04] sleger : Sultan Pepper: too bad, I was about to give you some btc to fund your first apartment, but since you only want the advice...
[2017-03-10 03:19:06] Sultan Pepper : elmorte: haha, this seems a lot cheaper than makimg it rain coin
[2017-03-10 03:19:26] elmorte : Sultan Pepper: smh...told ya
[2017-03-10 03:19:50] Sultan Pepper : sleger: i'll never turn down somethig given to me, but I don't like begging
[2017-03-10 03:20:05] elmorte : sleger does
[2017-03-10 03:20:16] sleger : like begging ? no
[2017-03-10 03:20:28] sleger : i made sure that jolin got banned earlier
[2017-03-10 03:20:46] elmorte : coz you like it too much :p
[2017-03-10 03:20:46] rejndjer : wow price doing nothing these last 8 hours
[2017-03-10 03:21:13] elmorte : what's that in earth hours @rejndjer ?
[2017-03-10 03:21:52] rejndjer : oh well everyone waiting etf to get denied, then real shorting can start
[2017-03-10 03:21:57] rejndjer : off to sleep folks, gn :)
[2017-03-10 03:22:11] Sultan Pepper : sleger: if you want to help fund a fresh landlord, my wife would probably thank you personally!
[2017-03-10 03:22:13] elmorte : Anyway, off to work now, got 48 apartments to catch up to...
[2017-03-10 03:22:28] Sultan Pepper : elmorte: you too?!
[2017-03-10 03:22:31] sleger : Sultan Pepper: I would need a picture first if your auctioning your wife
[2017-03-10 03:22:42] sleger : Sultan Pepper: no he only has 49
[2017-03-10 03:22:51] elmorte : yeah, rub it in @sleger
[2017-03-10 03:23:06] Sultan Pepper : sleger: hahaha i don't marry hookers, sorry ;)
[2017-03-10 03:23:56] elmorte : Sultan Pepper: lost one apartment in the january dump :(
[2017-03-10 03:24:19] Sultan Pepper : elmorte: tennants pay in btc? :D
[2017-03-10 03:24:48] elmorte : oh, no, no...I just got so mad I trashed the place and wrote it off
[2017-03-10 03:24:56] elmorte : it was therapeutic
[2017-03-10 03:25:08] Sultan Pepper : Oh you're not even kidding
[2017-03-10 03:25:09] elmorte : you should try it
[2017-03-10 03:25:51] elmorte : it was jinxed. didn't want anyone else to suffer
[2017-03-10 03:25:53] Sultan Pepper : elmorte: when i get my first apt and 50x snowball that shit, maybe i'll give it a go
[2017-03-10 03:26:08] elmorte : That;s the spirit :)
[2017-03-10 03:26:14] elmorte : Have a good one everyone!
[2017-03-10 03:26:22] Sultan Pepper : elmorte: gnight!