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[2017-03-09 22:31:00] aron : I was told I can bet on the SEC results here
[2017-03-09 22:31:07] aron : is that true?
[2017-03-09 22:31:24] MrRGnome : aron: https://www.bitmex.com/app/trade/COIN_BH17
[2017-03-09 22:31:40] aron : ?
[2017-03-09 22:31:46] DorianWhack-A-Moto : aron:https://www.bitmex.com/app/seriesGuide/COIN
[2017-03-09 22:31:51] DorianWhack-A-Moto : thats the guide that explains it
[2017-03-09 22:31:52] Farzad2 : aron: yes on COIN
[2017-03-09 22:32:02] aron : thanks
[2017-03-09 22:32:02] Farzad2 : /guide
[2017-03-09 22:32:03] trollbot : ``` Dear newcomer Please watch this video to get started with BitMex: ``` https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSh2bM3UP04 ``` Also make sure to read the docs: ``` https://www.bitmex.com/app/tradingOverview ``` Remember to trade small with low leverage until you understand how things work, otherwise you will get liquidated (REKT) pretty soon :boom: ```
[2017-03-09 22:32:25] aron : how much will price increase if it happens?
[2017-03-09 22:32:38] aron : of the bitcoin
[2017-03-09 22:32:41] QuinnTrades : about $12.50
[2017-03-09 22:32:47] aron : thats low
[2017-03-09 22:32:50] aron : are u sure?
[2017-03-09 22:32:52] GT : tree 50
[2017-03-09 22:33:03] aron : redditors
[2017-03-09 22:33:06] MikeHunt : tree fiddy?
[2017-03-09 22:33:10] Farzad2 : OK. $13 just for u
[2017-03-09 22:33:23] aron : i was thinking it would double
[2017-03-09 22:33:27] aron : will it triple
[2017-03-09 22:33:35] MikeHunt : 10k
[2017-03-09 22:33:38] aron : nice
[2017-03-09 22:33:47] aron : tell me seriously
[2017-03-09 22:33:47] finnagetdooped : approx 1 billion yen
[2017-03-09 22:33:48] Farzad2 : aron: u think we are prophets or something ?
[2017-03-09 22:33:48] Ahhere : DorianWhack-A-Moto: that is hilarious. Give me a bitcoin for 500 wink wink it's not real money.
[2017-03-09 22:34:05] aron : Farzad2 cant u speculate
[2017-03-09 22:34:33] Ahhere : aron: it will triple that's been confirmed multiple times obviously.
[2017-03-09 22:34:49] aron : how do u know? where has it been confirmed?
[2017-03-09 22:35:05] DorianWhack-A-Moto : Ahhere: lol i know right. some ppl have no idea. like all the markets have a price, but no i must know a way to get it super cheap for him.
[2017-03-09 22:35:06] Newsfeed : ur momma
[2017-03-09 22:35:07] Ahhere : `CONFIRMED`
[2017-03-09 22:35:09] Farzad2 : aron: they are screwing with u. no one knows.
[2017-03-09 22:35:27] Ahhere : I just literally confirmed it @Farzad2
[2017-03-09 22:35:40] Farzad2 : heck, it may even fall ! lol
[2017-03-09 22:35:50] GT : actually aron we already have the answer
[2017-03-09 22:36:01] GT : if you can figure the % chance of ETF passing
[2017-03-09 22:36:24] DorianWhack-A-Moto : Ahhere: and if i go ahead and sell him $500 worth, he'll think i've somehow ripped him off. not worth dealing with ppl like that.
[2017-03-09 22:36:24] aron : I was thinking of buying 1000 GBP worth of bitcoins (hoping SEC comes through) and at the same bet on SEC not coming through in the COIN thing
[2017-03-09 22:36:26] GT : then you can back calc the expected value since Dow Theoiry
[2017-03-09 22:36:37] ross : Where's best place for etf news?
[2017-03-09 22:36:43] aron : GT its 50% thats what forbes says
[2017-03-09 22:37:03] Farzad2 : aron: buy COIN_BH17, if it is accepted, your money will be doubled. if rejected, you will lose all of your money.
[2017-03-09 22:37:06] GT : yeah but all binary who knows is 50/50
[2017-03-09 22:37:21] Ahhere : Same cnut will be pissed off at you when they hit 10k. @DorianWhack-A-Moto
[2017-03-09 22:37:22] DorianWhack-A-Moto : dumb-dumbs are never interested in the coin itself only the price and max profit
[2017-03-09 22:37:29] GT : but if true then look for 1300-1500
[2017-03-09 22:38:13] DorianWhack-A-Moto : Ahhere: i remember him telling him back when it was like $200 and of course it was a ponzi scheme he wasn't interested in it
[2017-03-09 22:38:32] DorianWhack-A-Moto : or maybe it was $500 back then? can't remember
[2017-03-09 22:38:54] aandy : /sentiment
[2017-03-09 22:38:56] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 72.50 / 27.50 Daily : 44.06 / 55.94 Weekly : 54.10 / 45.90 Monthly : 50.54 / 49.46```
[2017-03-09 22:39:46] DorianWhack-A-Moto : Ahhere: i actually gave a friend like 0.10 for free in early days, of course that dumb-dumb lost his wallet/private keys
[2017-03-09 22:40:12] DorianWhack-A-Moto : why am i friends with so many dumb-dumbs?
[2017-03-09 22:40:49] Ahhere : Most ppl are dum dums.
[2017-03-09 22:40:55] Ahhere : Not us obviously
[2017-03-09 22:40:59] QuinnTrades : fuckin normies
[2017-03-09 22:41:00] BitNut : trollbot: I am struggling to understand the interest payable structure. Kindly advise what % would be charged or received on a year long position?
[2017-03-09 22:41:04] Apocalyptic : 17:40 EST, time to pack it guys
[2017-03-09 22:41:56] Ahhere : Sec at 17:41 **"surprise motherfackers APPROVED"**
[2017-03-09 22:42:37] Ahhere : Man this cliff high guy talks some shit
[2017-03-09 22:42:52] bitcoinfreedom : what is the latest time they will release info.?
[2017-03-09 22:42:56] aron : im trying to short btc
[2017-03-09 22:43:07] aron : but its not letting me
[2017-03-09 22:43:12] l3f : Bitcoin go home
[2017-03-09 22:43:15] bitcoinfreedom : I scanned through past releases, but they didn't contain times.
[2017-03-09 22:43:17] l3f : You're drunk
[2017-03-09 22:43:27] aron : the green and red button are not highlighted
[2017-03-09 22:43:30] DorianWhack-A-Moto : SEC have approved after 6pm before so still tiny chance today...maybe...just a little bit
[2017-03-09 22:43:30] shiroe : the slingshot before the moon :D
[2017-03-09 22:43:57] Ahhere : Did you email your passport and a scan of your undercarriage? @aron
[2017-03-09 22:44:07] DorianWhack-A-Moto : bitcoinfreedom: i saw someone had a list of all decisions somewhere, think it was on reddit.com/r/bitcoinmarkets
[2017-03-09 22:44:08] aron : yes
[2017-03-09 22:44:08] smokim87 : bitcoinfreedom: https://www.sec.gov/rss/rules/proposed.xml
[2017-03-09 22:44:28] bitcoinfreedom : thanks
[2017-03-09 22:45:25] aron : can some1 say why
[2017-03-09 22:45:30] bitcoinfreedom : 5:30
[2017-03-09 22:45:59] DorianWhack-A-Moto : porn industry needs to do crypto-themed pornos. like 2 girls naked sending each other bits.
[2017-03-09 22:46:24] DorianWhack-A-Moto : they climax at 3 confirmations
[2017-03-09 22:46:52] aeos : DorianWhack-A-Moto: lol wtf
[2017-03-09 22:47:07] DorianWhack-A-Moto : im running on no sleep. shits gettin weird
[2017-03-09 22:47:07] bitcoinfreedom : aeos: youngsters
[2017-03-09 22:47:24] bitcoinfreedom : DorianWhack-A-Moto: lol
[2017-03-09 22:47:45] QuinnTrades : DorianWhack-A-Moto: I only got up like 3 hours ago
[2017-03-09 22:47:49] bitcoinfreedom : probably call it a day based on the past release times
[2017-03-09 22:47:51] QuinnTrades : gonna be here all night bb
[2017-03-09 22:47:51] aron : nvm i was able to sell it
[2017-03-09 22:48:03] Ahhere : DorianWhack-A-Moto: lol go to bed set alarms at 1280 and 1160 volume 11
[2017-03-09 22:48:11] DorianWhack-A-Moto : QuinnTrades: i've been micro-napping heaps, but ETF is running around in my mind
[2017-03-09 22:48:48] QuinnTrades : I usually do well for like 7 hours and then I lose all the progress
[2017-03-09 22:48:49] shiroe : always buy the dip? :D
[2017-03-09 22:48:53] QuinnTrades : has happened twice now
[2017-03-09 22:49:03] Ahhere : Do you have ETF tinnitus? @DorianWhack-A-Moto
[2017-03-09 22:49:17] Ahhere : Do you hear ETF chants when it's silent
[2017-03-09 22:49:28] shiroe : There are tons of small buyers, and a few big sellers. mmm majority wins?
[2017-03-09 22:49:35] bitcoinfreedom : most release days were on a Wednesday
[2017-03-09 22:49:42] Dynamix : Hmm
[2017-03-09 22:49:45] Dynamix : we are gonna go down
[2017-03-09 22:49:48] bitcoinfreedom : the only Friday happened to be a morning release
[2017-03-09 22:49:57] QuinnTrades : downtown
[2017-03-09 22:49:58] DorianWhack-A-Moto : Ahhere: i need a doctor that specializes in crypto related conditions
[2017-03-09 22:50:06] DorianWhack-A-Moto : and he has to accept btc
[2017-03-09 22:50:10] DorianWhack-A-Moto : or she
[2017-03-09 22:50:20] DorianWhack-A-Moto : actually preferably she
[2017-03-09 22:50:27] QuinnTrades : did you just assume your doctor's gender?
[2017-03-09 22:50:27] DorianWhack-A-Moto : new porno idea?
[2017-03-09 22:50:46] DorianWhack-A-Moto : QuinnTrades: i did and im sorry. dont protest me
[2017-03-09 22:51:46] Ahhere : My name is Shitoshi Makapoopoo and I approve this ETF. GOODNIGHT
[2017-03-09 22:53:42] DorianWhack-A-Moto : wait...what? Shitoshi approves? buy buy buy
[2017-03-09 22:53:50] rapidtrades : lol @ the tool pumping COIN
[2017-03-09 22:53:54] QuinnTrades : BUY BUY BUY
[2017-03-09 22:54:04] QuinnTrades : never gona be this low again etc etc
[2017-03-09 22:54:09] prospecta : haha I know right buying coin is giving your money way
[2017-03-09 22:54:23] DorianWhack-A-Moto : rapidtrades: he's getting it higher so your short will profit more, you should thank him
[2017-03-09 22:54:38] rapidtrades : already in, so f him
[2017-03-09 22:54:57] QuinnTrades : what did you get in at?
[2017-03-09 22:55:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 2000 @ 1192.03
[2017-03-09 22:55:09] rapidtrades : 50s
[2017-03-09 22:55:12] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 900 @ 1191.67
[2017-03-09 22:55:12] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 90 @ 1191.66
[2017-03-09 22:55:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 10 @ 1191.08
[2017-03-09 22:55:17] QuinnTrades : cool
[2017-03-09 22:55:48] QuinnTrades : rip longs
[2017-03-09 22:56:02] DorianWhack-A-Moto : wonder what OKC settlement will do today. last week was pump so this week will...
[2017-03-09 22:56:22] -_- : get your shorts in
[2017-03-09 22:56:24] rapidtrades : DUMP
[2017-03-09 22:56:26] rapidtrades : DUMP DUMP DUMP
[2017-03-09 22:56:26] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 2000 @ 1187.94
[2017-03-09 22:56:26] REKT : HODL HODL HODL!
[2017-03-09 22:56:35] -_- : stamp dumpin
[2017-03-09 22:56:47] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 45 @ 1187.37
[2017-03-09 22:56:47] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 500 @ 1187.36
[2017-03-09 22:56:47] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 1000 @ 1187.24
[2017-03-09 22:56:47] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 500 @ 1187.37
[2017-03-09 22:56:49] rapidtrades : STAMP KNOWS SMTH?
[2017-03-09 22:56:53] rapidtrades : INSIDERS SELING?
[2017-03-09 22:56:58] Sultan Pepper : Logged in at the rigjt time i see. WEEEEEE
[2017-03-09 22:57:59] jigsaw : short is the way forward!
[2017-03-09 22:58:12] QuinnTrades : All the way down to 900
[2017-03-09 22:58:13] QuinnTrades : right
[2017-03-09 22:58:15] QuinnTrades : right
[2017-03-09 22:58:25] rapidtrades : 880
[2017-03-09 22:58:33] DorianWhack-A-Moto : guess i can tell my dumb-dumb friend I CAN get it cheaper now
[2017-03-09 22:58:37] jigsaw : love the void sensation
[2017-03-09 22:58:40] ripcord : buy all the dips
[2017-03-09 23:01:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTH17`: buy 14 @ 1200.03
[2017-03-09 23:01:14] rejndjer : waiting whole day for this dump, finally
[2017-03-09 23:01:26] rejndjer : cant wait for tomorrow
[2017-03-09 23:01:29] rejndjer : and that sweet dip to 1000
[2017-03-09 23:01:34] rejndjer : then things start getting kinky
[2017-03-09 23:01:37] jigsaw : uh yeah
[2017-03-09 23:01:48] QuinnTrades : Yeah wtf is this weekend gonna do
[2017-03-09 23:01:50] zanza : Silver is getting rammed
[2017-03-09 23:04:13] shiroe : looks like its gonna dip. wtf haha
[2017-03-09 23:06:51] rejndjer : yeah gonna dip to 800
[2017-03-09 23:06:55] rejndjer : buy now
[2017-03-09 23:07:18] QuinnTrades : if it was gonna dip to 800... wouldnt you wanna sell now
[2017-03-09 23:09:33] prospecta : COIN to the floor!!!
[2017-03-09 23:12:01] GT : god how often do you guys accidently click on H17 and shit when youre trading on swap? lol
[2017-03-09 23:13:02] rejndjer : /sentiment
[2017-03-09 23:13:04] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 73.79 / 26.21 Daily : 44.58 / 55.42 Weekly : 54.17 / 45.83 Monthly : 50.58 / 49.42```
[2017-03-09 23:15:47] shiroe : the bear wins!
[2017-03-09 23:16:12] rejndjer : wow i just realized i have ut2k4 installed on my PC, oh yeah
[2017-03-09 23:17:17] DorianWhack-A-Moto : GT: all the time. the worst is thinking swap is pumping and then you realize you're on march lol
[2017-03-09 23:17:38] DorianWhack-A-Moto : plus 1000 tabs open and no sleep.
[2017-03-09 23:17:55] GT : DorianWhack-A-Moto: man do i rep that
[2017-03-09 23:18:17] DorianWhack-A-Moto : its user error
[2017-03-09 23:18:35] GT : guys im out, gonna sleep till the early AM, may your shorts kick the midget in the knee, and your longs live like Kong!
[2017-03-09 23:18:49] QuinnTrades : tyty nn
[2017-03-09 23:20:21] Farzad2 : /rekt
[2017-03-09 23:20:21] trollbot : ``` 3 recent REKTs > 100K: ``` ``` 5 hours, 39 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 160000 @ 1199.71 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished: ``` ``` 6 hours, 46 mins ago: Liquidated short on `XBTH17`: buy 142359 @ 1214.07 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished: ``` ``` 9 hours, 45 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 232395 @ 1179.56 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire: ```
[2017-03-09 23:20:39] Farzad2 : FUCK SEC
[2017-03-09 23:20:56] Farzad2 : Announce it already
[2017-03-09 23:21:09] rapidtrades : FU SEC
[2017-03-09 23:21:21] rapidtrades : just a sec
[2017-03-09 23:21:26] rapidtrades : NOPE
[2017-03-09 23:21:57] rapidtrades : hope piwowar gets a hearth attack
[2017-03-09 23:22:16] rapidtrades : fat lazy pos
[2017-03-09 23:23:29] Rado : the announcement will be on Monday
[2017-03-09 23:23:46] Rado : so the insider leaks can put their bets on the weekend
[2017-03-09 23:26:07] rms : yeah i'm thinking monday
[2017-03-09 23:26:08] rejndjer : why cant i rek bots here like in ut2k3:(
[2017-03-09 23:26:23] rms : and the market will go crazy if nothing happens by 9AM new york time
[2017-03-09 23:26:28] rms : but announcement could happen at 7:30
[2017-03-09 23:26:43] BitNut : can anybody tell me what the average daily interest is?
[2017-03-09 23:26:48] rms : worst case for everyone is no announcement at 9AM and then rejection or withdrawal at noon
[2017-03-09 23:27:31] freundschaft : what is the latest time announcements can happen on monday?
[2017-03-09 23:27:48] sleger : 23:59
[2017-03-09 23:28:09] sleger : but most likely before 5pm EST
[2017-03-09 23:28:15] freundschaft : got it
[2017-03-09 23:28:22] freundschaft : I subscribed for SEC press releases
[2017-03-09 23:28:25] rms : yeah if it isn't by 5PM something is messed up
[2017-03-09 23:28:36] sleger : did bitmex clarify what happens to COIN if we have nothing by monday
[2017-03-09 23:28:55] rms : no
[2017-03-09 23:29:06] rms : they don't like acknowledging that their contract is poorly written
[2017-03-09 23:29:07] lockhedge : https://blog.bitmex.com/site_announcement/notice-regarding-coin-prediction-futures/
[2017-03-09 23:29:10] j8 : it's always been default acceptance
[2017-03-09 23:29:29] rms : well, yeah, if it's default acceptance "yes" wins
[2017-03-09 23:29:41] rms : if there is an unprecedented and illegal formal delay, the contract is poorly defined
[2017-03-09 23:29:45] j8 : hearing nothing = default acceptance
[2017-03-09 23:29:51] rms : and i don't see what they could do besides refund everyone
[2017-03-09 23:29:58] sleger : j8: what if they say, we changed the rule, we'll decide in a month
[2017-03-09 23:30:00] rms : at the price they paid
[2017-03-09 23:30:21] rms : the contract doesn't define that case, bitmex gets sort of fucked, and all of the contract holders will be pissed off no matter what
[2017-03-09 23:30:33] rms : my guess is refund everyone
[2017-03-09 23:30:39] sleger : thats why you formulate a contract in a smart way
[2017-03-09 23:30:41] sleger : such as :
[2017-03-09 23:30:43] j8 : yeah then they'd have to do something, that's supposedly not possible but i dunno
[2017-03-09 23:30:54] sleger : "if etf is approved by date X then 100 else 0"
[2017-03-09 23:31:10] MrRGnome : They did do exactly that @sleger
[2017-03-09 23:31:17] sleger : MrRGnome: they did ?
[2017-03-09 23:31:27] sleger : i thought that was unclear
[2017-03-09 23:31:41] sleger : COIN will settle at 0 if the SEC does not approve the proposed rule change. COIN will settle at 100 if the SEC approves the proposed rule change.
[2017-03-09 23:31:45] sleger : THAT is not clear
[2017-03-09 23:31:54] j8 : Note: this includes the scenario in which the SEC does not disapprove the rule change by March 11, as this implies an automatic approval
[2017-03-09 23:31:59] sleger : MrRGnome: so no they didnt
[2017-03-09 23:32:02] j8 : half unclear
[2017-03-09 23:32:10] kryptopojken : sooo
[2017-03-09 23:32:16] j8 : extending would be not disapproving
[2017-03-09 23:32:22] kryptopojken : i guess we're all gonna be either margin called or ADL'd tomorrow?
[2017-03-09 23:32:33] sleger : if they explicitly say stg like we wait for the SEC trump guy to decide ...
[2017-03-09 23:32:36] MrRGnome : "If etf is approved or (date.now > date x && !denied) then 100 else 0
[2017-03-09 23:32:42] MrRGnome : Does that satisfy you?
[2017-03-09 23:32:59] MrRGnome : That's the logic outlined in the contract specifications
[2017-03-09 23:33:04] sleger : MrRGnome: (Note: this includes the scenario in which the SEC does not disapprove the rule change by March 11, as this implies an automatic approval)
[2017-03-09 23:33:06] j8 : with all other contracts, they reserve the right to delay settlement if it's not possible to obtain a settlement price
[2017-03-09 23:33:10] sleger : that is only half clear
[2017-03-09 23:33:32] MrRGnome : sleger: What's unclear about that.
[2017-03-09 23:33:40] sleger : if they change the rule such that no answer does not mean approval
[2017-03-09 23:34:25] rms : which i think is not at all unlikely
[2017-03-09 23:34:29] sleger : I have a very large -41 position on coin so dont mess with that
[2017-03-09 23:34:48] sleger : rms: yes that was my point, its unlikely not impossible
[2017-03-09 23:34:51] MrRGnome : You're saying that it doesn't cover the potential case that the securities act of 1933 is amended or repealed? @sleger
[2017-03-09 23:35:02] rms : or illegally ignored
[2017-03-09 23:35:09] sleger : MrRGnome: that they somehow change the rule yes
[2017-03-09 23:35:50] MrRGnome : sleger: Well to change the rule would be to amend or repeal the securities act of 1933, just so it's clear what we're talking about
[2017-03-09 23:36:01] herpinator : what do you guys think of this? https://steemit.com/bitcoin/@tlogs/why-the-coin-etf-will-receive-sec-approval-a-detailed-analysis
[2017-03-09 23:36:04] DorianWhack-A-Moto : sleger: you betting against COIN?
[2017-03-09 23:36:15] sleger : MrRGnome: an addendum is not a complete repeal
[2017-03-09 23:36:20] aguia7 : /sentiment
[2017-03-09 23:36:23] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 63.31 / 36.69 Daily : 41.71 / 58.29 Weekly : 54.16 / 45.84 Monthly : 50.58 / 49.42```
[2017-03-09 23:36:27] aguia7 : http://www.tradingview.com/x/Er9W901q
[2017-03-09 23:36:28] MrRGnome : Which is why I said amend or repeal. @sleger
[2017-03-09 23:36:30] sleger : DorianWhack-A-Moto: with the full force of fourty and one dollars yes
[2017-03-09 23:36:43] j8 : dollars?
[2017-03-09 23:36:50] sleger : MrRGnome: ok so then we are on the same page. The contract could have been cleared like I said
[2017-03-09 23:36:55] sleger : j8: real USD yeah
[2017-03-09 23:36:59] sleger : no joking here
[2017-03-09 23:37:10] rapidtrades : what a feg
[2017-03-09 23:37:12] prospecta : so youre all in sleger?
[2017-03-09 23:37:12] DorianWhack-A-Moto : sleger: max profit you should have got in above 50, im the other way in under 50.
[2017-03-09 23:37:14] Apocalyptic : thought 41 BTC
[2017-03-09 23:37:24] sleger : DorianWhack-A-Moto: I sold at 45
[2017-03-09 23:37:30] MrRGnome : sleger: I just want it to be clear that to amend or repeal is not a decision left up to the SEC, and is a transparent process which occurs not at all spontaneously through the legislative bodies.
[2017-03-09 23:37:41] MrRGnome : sleger: It's something that you can see coming and accommodate.
[2017-03-09 23:37:52] lockhedge : sleger: "if they change the rule such that no answer does not mean approval" that's law, the Securities Exchange Act https://www.sec.gov/about/laws/sea34.pdf (p. 288) it can't be changed by the SEC
[2017-03-09 23:38:07] DorianWhack-A-Moto : sleger: i might put an equal size opposite position at same price as long. can't lose.
[2017-03-09 23:38:08] aguia7 : If the ETF Coin is approved, will it have the same price as Bitcoin? How it works ?
[2017-03-09 23:38:28] rapidtrades : dude relax its gonna be rejected tomorr
[2017-03-09 23:38:31] sleger : aguia7: supply and demand
[2017-03-09 23:38:32] DorianWhack-A-Moto : my COIN will cancel itself and open a wormhole
[2017-03-09 23:38:41] sleger : rapidtrades: you also said it wouldnt even get close to the deadline
[2017-03-09 23:38:58] rapidtrades : sleger: it doesn't matter Loser
[2017-03-09 23:39:07] rapidtrades : keep hedging punk
[2017-03-09 23:39:08] DorianWhack-A-Moto : rapidtrades: you still holding your 8xx short?
[2017-03-09 23:39:14] MrRGnome : To be fair most of the time it doesn't get close tot he deadline. pretty abnormal situation.
[2017-03-09 23:39:15] rapidtrades : hedgefeg
[2017-03-09 23:39:19] rapidtrades : arbfeg
[2017-03-09 23:40:46] Zen Trader : /sentiment
[2017-03-09 23:40:48] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 64.23 / 35.77 Daily : 41.90 / 58.10 Weekly : 54.15 / 45.85 Monthly : 50.58 / 49.42```
[2017-03-09 23:40:57] rms : i'm still surprised COIN is so high here
[2017-03-09 23:41:15] Apocalyptic : rms: someone pumped it an hour ago
[2017-03-09 23:41:28] rapidtrades : its the same ppl that pumped ZEC to 10
[2017-03-09 23:41:37] MrRGnome : rapidtrades: you?
[2017-03-09 23:41:38] rapidtrades : f*cked in the head
[2017-03-09 23:41:50] lockhedge : rms: why "still", a withdrawal gets more and more unlikely and a default approval gets more and more likely
[2017-03-09 23:41:57] sleger : rapidtrades: you tried to pump it above 3 yoursel
[2017-03-09 23:42:00] sleger : and failed
[2017-03-09 23:42:12] rapidtrades : lockhedge: yeah it went up from 5% to 6%
[2017-03-09 23:42:38] MrRGnome : lockhedge: approval by default is by far the least likely outcome. It's never been allowed to happen.
[2017-03-09 23:42:55] shapeshifter : sleger: pumping zec lol
[2017-03-09 23:43:26] rapidtrades : if they wanted to approve teh god dam ETF they wouldn't wait last minute with only 2/5 commis
[2017-03-09 23:43:41] rapidtrades : its just a FAKE NEWS story palnted by bulls after the Chynoya crash
[2017-03-09 23:43:42] rejndjer : SEC be like, yeah we've been just teasing u these last 4 years, we no care about no bitcoin, u can have your etf
[2017-03-09 23:43:59] startChat : rapidtrades: Where did you get your SEC experience?
[2017-03-09 23:44:12] rejndjer : startChat: same as everyone here
[2017-03-09 23:44:15] rapidtrades : its common sense moran
[2017-03-09 23:44:19] prospecta : COIN should really be around 25% right now
[2017-03-09 23:44:25] MrRGnome : Yeah you stupid MORAN.
[2017-03-09 23:44:33] prospecta : you MORAN
[2017-03-09 23:44:34] rapidtrades : COIN should be <10%
[2017-03-09 23:44:35] rejndjer : morano
[2017-03-09 23:44:40] lockhedge : default approval would make more sense then approval by issuing an order in this case (because of the impact of the SEC's decision on volatility)
[2017-03-09 23:44:42] startChat : rapidtrades: should?
[2017-03-09 23:44:46] startChat : have u bet on that?
[2017-03-09 23:44:56] rapidtrades : duh
[2017-03-09 23:45:10] MrRGnome : He is very, very short and has been since ~800 @startChat
[2017-03-09 23:45:34] MrRGnome : I'd say losing makes him grumpy but he is just as irritable when he's winning.
[2017-03-09 23:45:51] bingbongfly : MrRGnome: we havn't seen him with if he has that position!
[2017-03-09 23:45:54] rapidtrades : not rly, i tend to keep quiet when im winning
[2017-03-09 23:45:55] Zen Trader : lockhedge: i AGREE
[2017-03-09 23:45:56] bingbongfly : dat short gotta sweat
[2017-03-09 23:46:09] lockhedge : *than
[2017-03-09 23:46:29] shapeshifter : rapidtrades: never in fact ahah
[2017-03-09 23:47:04] rapidtrades : i will shit on every long when we drop <900 tho
[2017-03-09 23:47:08] rapidtrades : cos u have no class
[2017-03-09 23:47:16] Zen Trader : COIN ETF likely hood up
[2017-03-09 23:47:26] rapidtrades : and u have to reap what u sew mofos
[2017-03-09 23:47:32] shapeshifter : rapidtrades: says the ones swearing all day long...
[2017-03-09 23:48:07] rapidtrades : calling smone a moran is swearing, its a statement of fact
[2017-03-09 23:48:19] rapidtrades : moran
[2017-03-09 23:48:22] MrRGnome : Yeah it is, Iyou moran
[2017-03-09 23:48:37] rapidtrades : SHUT UP MORAN
[2017-03-09 23:48:41] MrRGnome : stop cussing or I'm going to tell
[2017-03-09 23:49:08] MrRGnome : I'm too smort for you moran!
[2017-03-09 23:49:10] lockhedge : on the other hand, a late disapproval makes more sense than a late approval by issuing an order (because usually it takes much more time and good legal arguments to write a disapproval order)
[2017-03-09 23:49:15] prospecta : FUCKING CUNT
[2017-03-09 23:49:17] rapidtrades : guess its time to east cos no decision is coming today
[2017-03-09 23:49:31] prospecta : NIGGER
[2017-03-09 23:49:56] rapidtrades : u guys think its safe?
[2017-03-09 23:49:59] prospecta : FUCKING NIGGER
[2017-03-09 23:50:00] l3f : Yo bitmex, if you input an usd order and the order has decimal points, it says it has found an internal inconsistency
[2017-03-09 23:50:16] l3f : order with decimal points in the quantity
[2017-03-09 23:50:29] j8 : the input box doesn't let me put decimals
[2017-03-09 23:50:53] l3f : j8: Copy paste it in
[2017-03-09 23:51:31] j8 : so it does, maybe let sam know. who the heck copy pastes qty though?
[2017-03-09 23:51:41] Zen Trader : We are running Tradeoff Analytics on Watsons IBM cloud and it appears that an approval is more likely than not
[2017-03-09 23:52:08] l3f : j8: When you're calculating your usd balance to hedge
[2017-03-09 23:52:49] Apocalyptic : l3f: a contract is not divisible
[2017-03-09 23:52:49] shapeshifter : Zen Trader: pure trolling here uh?
[2017-03-09 23:52:56] l3f : Apocalyptic: I know
[2017-03-09 23:53:06] l3f : I'm just saying copying pasting a decimal point rekts the ui
[2017-03-09 23:53:19] Apocalyptic : fair enough
[2017-03-09 23:53:20] j8 : yes totally valid
[2017-03-09 23:53:39] j8 : sam likes to know about that sort of thing
[2017-03-09 23:53:53] aandy : ya baby
[2017-03-10 00:00:09] l3f : BitMEX_Sam: try copy pasting a decimal point into the quantity and attempt to place that order,
[2017-03-10 00:00:16] l3f : That should notify him
[2017-03-10 00:03:16] QuinnTrades : /price
[2017-03-10 00:03:19] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1195.66 (19.57%) Bitfinex : 1196.30 (19.63%) The Woodchipper : 1193.52 (19.35%) itBit : 1195.59 (19.56%) Kraken : 1187.19 (18.72%) GDAX : 1198.29 (19.83%) SLQ : ```
[2017-03-10 00:03:21] zy : what's with the pump?
[2017-03-10 00:03:23] shiroe : happroved!
[2017-03-10 00:03:46] Doom : finally twins
[2017-03-10 00:03:48] shiroe : weee
[2017-03-10 00:04:08] Apocalyptic : nothing on sec's website
[2017-03-10 00:04:16] Doom : lying xD
[2017-03-10 00:04:20] sleger : keep refreshing
[2017-03-10 00:04:25] zy : to the moon
[2017-03-10 00:04:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTH17`: buy 29994 @ 1210.96
[2017-03-10 00:04:41] shiroe : it was a whisper first, then days later it will be on the site.
[2017-03-10 00:04:50] Zen Trader : I say we go up till 3 am then sharply down for the morning and as the day ends tomorrow we rise.
[2017-03-10 00:04:59] -_- : WTF XBTH17
[2017-03-10 00:05:07] Doom : for price in long term its better if etf is declined
[2017-03-10 00:05:10] -_- : i close and it randomly pumps $20
[2017-03-10 00:05:17] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 100 @ 1195.68
[2017-03-10 00:05:17] REKT : Choppy waters make solid seamen!
[2017-03-10 00:05:22] Zen Trader : -_-: Because you closed it
[2017-03-10 00:05:40] Apocalyptic : -_-: random pumps are the best pumps
[2017-03-10 00:05:41] -_- : goes from $9 premium to $23
[2017-03-10 00:05:52] -_- : someone must have closed a short
[2017-03-10 00:05:56] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 500 @ 1196.11
[2017-03-10 00:05:57] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 900 @ 1196.41
[2017-03-10 00:06:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 880 @ 1196.88
[2017-03-10 00:06:11] tb : etf approved?
[2017-03-10 00:06:24] rejndjer : /rekt
[2017-03-10 00:06:24] trollbot : ``` 3 recent REKTs > 100K: ``` ``` 6 hours, 25 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 160000 @ 1199.71 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished: ``` ``` 7 hours, 32 mins ago: Liquidated short on `XBTH17`: buy 142359 @ 1214.07 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished: ``` ``` 10 hours, 31 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 232395 @ 1179.56 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire: ```
[2017-03-10 00:06:52] -_- : xbth17 went 1224 to 1209 to 1219 to 1209
[2017-03-10 00:07:00] -_- : now btc back to 1200
[2017-03-10 00:07:41] rejndjer : Zen Trader: what time zone u talking about
[2017-03-10 00:07:41] -_- : /rrekt
[2017-03-10 00:07:41] trollbot : ``` 3 all time high REKTs: ``` ``` 75 hours, 22 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 390000 @ 1300.55 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire: ``` ``` 67 hours, 11 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 350000 @ 1277.73 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire: ``` ``` 60 hours, 30 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 246999 @ 1208.93 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire: ```
[2017-03-10 00:10:02] aguia7 : News: Satoshi nakamoto Will be president of the United States. Now the bitcoin goes to 1 million. XD
[2017-03-10 00:10:21] rejndjer : president of milky way
[2017-03-10 00:10:33] aguia7 : KKKK XD
[2017-03-10 00:10:38] Doom : trumps nickname is satoshi
[2017-03-10 00:11:38] rejndjer : can i open short on mar31 while im shorting swap?
[2017-03-10 00:12:13] rejndjer : or can i only trade 1 instrument?
[2017-03-10 00:12:56] rapidtrades : short em all bra
[2017-03-10 00:13:21] rapidtrades : short COIN while ur at it
[2017-03-10 00:13:46] rejndjer : nah dont wanna short COIN, its too weird
[2017-03-10 00:14:57] rapidtrades : then FU bra
[2017-03-10 00:16:08] coolmans : how to buy xbth17?
[2017-03-10 00:18:20] Farzad2 : /guide
[2017-03-10 00:18:20] trollbot : ``` Dear newcomer Please watch this video to get started with BitMex: ``` https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSh2bM3UP04 ``` Also make sure to read the docs: ``` https://www.bitmex.com/app/tradingOverview ``` Remember to trade small with low leverage until you understand how things work, otherwise you will get liquidated (REKT) pretty soon :boom: ```
[2017-03-10 00:28:42] KingTuna : StabilisiNG AT $1200?
[2017-03-10 00:28:52] KingTuna : What does this mean fellas
[2017-03-10 00:28:55] KingTuna : .....
[2017-03-10 00:30:53] Zen Trader : /sentiment
[2017-03-10 00:30:55] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 34.17 / 65.83 Daily : 41.81 / 58.19 Weekly : 54.07 / 45.93 Monthly : 50.57 / 49.43```
[2017-03-10 00:32:41] -_- : damn
[2017-03-10 00:32:46] -_- : i got shaken out
[2017-03-10 00:32:47] -_- : sucks
[2017-03-10 00:32:51] Zen Trader : We are going to 1323
[2017-03-10 00:32:52] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 459 @ 1203.19
[2017-03-10 00:33:26] shiroe : the news is spreading like wildfire for tomorrow.
[2017-03-10 00:33:40] lockhedge : or not
[2017-03-10 00:34:26] Sultan Pepper : Farzad2: hey farzad, that's a *good* feature, thanks!
[2017-03-10 00:34:45] Farzad2 : Sultan Pepper: yw :)
[2017-03-10 00:35:05] Winklevoss : If I want to put a limit long order @ 1300 with auto exit @1700 and also place a limit short order order @ 990 to close @ 700, do I have to the value of both margins in my wallet ready
[2017-03-10 00:39:51] rapidtrades : keep pumping retards
[2017-03-10 00:41:03] shiroe : /price
[2017-03-10 00:41:06] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1204.38 (0.73%) Bitfinex : 1205.60 (0.78%) The Woodchipper : 1203.00 (0.79%) itBit : 1204.18 (0.72%) Kraken : 1193.89 (0.56%) GDAX : 1206.00 (0.64%) SLQ : 37 mins```
[2017-03-10 00:41:29] startChat : Winklevoss: stop loss and take profit orders. use "close on trigger" or order will not trigger
[2017-03-10 00:44:42] aethlios : bitmex here??? why don't you change now to 2hour funding?? since we all expect huge volatility ahead. until 8 hour notice pass means 12 or 16 hours until 2 hours periods start.
[2017-03-10 00:45:41] Winklevoss : aethlios: more frequent funding = greater payout for winners?
[2017-03-10 00:46:20] aethlios : Winklevoss: funding can average to zero if no trend.
[2017-03-10 00:47:13] Winklevoss : aethlios: smooths out volatility hits in a way for losers right?
[2017-03-10 00:48:01] aethlios : Winklevoss: yes loosers get a compensation for keeping the wrong side, this is a swap and never settles.
[2017-03-10 00:48:45] Winklevoss : I have misunderstood, I thought losers pay winners @ funding
[2017-03-10 00:50:08] aethlios : Winklevoss: https://www.bitmex.com/app/fundingHistory
[2017-03-10 00:50:08] -_- : going back down. nice little trap for you bulls
[2017-03-10 00:50:29] Winklevoss : aethlios: thx
[2017-03-10 00:50:36] aethlios : Winklevoss: here you see the history, shorts get paid while longs profit from rhe up trend
[2017-03-10 00:51:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 12900 @ 1198.87
[2017-03-10 00:51:24] aethlios : Winklevoss: if we crash then swap will be in discount and compensate longs who will be losing
[2017-03-10 00:51:29] micmix : Winklevoss: can you call SEC and tell them to hurry up with the decision? I'm tired of waiting
[2017-03-10 00:52:57] Winklevoss : micmix: They accepted it two weeks ago, we've been having orgies parties. Everyone's here....Zuckerburg, Satoshi, Yellen, Trump
[2017-03-10 00:53:21] zy : Wait so you guys settled with zuckerburg?
[2017-03-10 00:53:38] zy : Can't believe you did that
[2017-03-10 00:53:52] micmix : Winklevoss: Satoshi and Yellen in one room? that will not end well
[2017-03-10 00:54:21] Winklevoss : micmix: Plot twist Satoshi is Yellen.
[2017-03-10 00:54:46] micmix : makes sense, if you can't fight them join them
[2017-03-10 00:57:16] aguia7 : go to 1212
[2017-03-10 00:59:07] aguia7 : micmix: bitcoin jr baby. XD
[2017-03-10 01:01:08] zy : Friday it is then
[2017-03-10 01:02:57] Freewizard : /sentiment
[2017-03-10 01:03:00] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 36.87 / 63.13 Daily : 39.67 / 60.33 Weekly : 54.05 / 45.95 Monthly : 50.56 / 49.44```
[2017-03-10 01:03:50] Freewizard : /guide
[2017-03-10 01:03:50] trollbot : ``` Dear newcomer Please watch this video to get started with BitMex: ``` https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSh2bM3UP04 ``` Also make sure to read the docs: ``` https://www.bitmex.com/app/tradingOverview ``` Remember to trade small with low leverage until you understand how things work, otherwise you will get liquidated (REKT) pretty soon :boom: ```
[2017-03-10 01:08:36] startChat : How many people here have a trezor?
[2017-03-10 01:10:07] Rune : not me
[2017-03-10 01:11:00] zy : tails + electrum is free you know
[2017-03-10 01:12:51] micmix : startChat: have 2
[2017-03-10 01:13:38] startChat : I would love to have full Trezor integration with bitmex.
[2017-03-10 01:13:59] startChat : login/ withdrawl confirmation all on hardware device
[2017-03-10 01:14:07] startChat : backedup same as bitcoin
[2017-03-10 01:16:27] micmix : yeah, would be nice
[2017-03-10 01:16:39] micmix : Sam promised U2F login with Trezor soon
[2017-03-10 01:20:32] startChat : U2F is really important first step. will work with many yubikey also I beleive
[2017-03-10 01:21:02] Farzad : guys, if I have 2 stop orders, one buy above price and one sell below price. will execution of one cancel the other one ?
[2017-03-10 01:22:54] Farzad : no one ?
[2017-03-10 01:23:02] Farzad : paging mods !
[2017-03-10 01:23:26] startChat : if using 'close on trigger'
[2017-03-10 01:25:52] BitMEX_John : Farzad: @startChat is correct, if you have 'close on trigger' enabled all other orders on that position will be closed on trigger
[2017-03-10 01:26:28] Zen Trader : ASSANGE IS ALIVE
[2017-03-10 01:26:40] Farzad : ok ty
[2017-03-10 01:34:30] Guest51156 : Zen Trader: and we learned ETF info with our hacking. Tomorrow is going to be a good day for the b
[2017-03-10 01:34:37] Guest51156 : ulls !!!!!!
[2017-03-10 01:37:09] Dynamix : Drop maybe to 1100??
[2017-03-10 01:37:14] zy : what goes up must come down
[2017-03-10 01:37:35] zy : TO DA MOON
[2017-03-10 01:46:48] Winklevoss : Does an unfilled stop order reduce your balance?
[2017-03-10 01:46:58] zy : nope
[2017-03-10 01:48:29] BitMEX_John : Winklevoss: orders that will reduce your position size do not require margin to be open
[2017-03-10 01:53:55] sleger : https://steemit.com/bitcoin/@tlogs/why-the-coin-etf-will-receive-sec-approval-a-detailed-analysis#
[2017-03-10 01:55:34] REKT : Liquidated short on `DASH7D`: buy 663 @ 0.044200
[2017-03-10 02:00:28] smokim87 : watching dash, might try a small short at the previous high in case it's a double top
[2017-03-10 02:07:28] cryptokeeper : sleger: there is no doubt it is going to happen at some point.. but delayed is the keyword.
[2017-03-10 02:07:39] Rune : im tired of seeing dash go up
[2017-03-10 02:08:05] sleger : cryptokeeper: I only post those to piss off rapid
[2017-03-10 02:08:10] cryptokeeper : sleger: lol
[2017-03-10 02:08:30] cryptokeeper : to add to things... SEC have been known not to approve but to delay due to price speculation
[2017-03-10 02:08:41] cryptokeeper : so they might also be like... ok bitcoin too high... let it cool down then go time
[2017-03-10 02:08:52] sleger : from what i read they never delayed past the last deadline which is now, by rule
[2017-03-10 02:09:03] cryptokeeper : yeah who knows
[2017-03-10 02:09:13] cryptokeeper : many think it will pass many dont
[2017-03-10 02:09:33] cryptokeeper : even if it does... it is a long ways off to hit market
[2017-03-10 02:10:03] sleger : yes but we have to hit 2000+ to liq rapid
[2017-03-10 02:10:24] cryptokeeper : 2000 now?
[2017-03-10 02:10:54] cryptokeeper : last time i recall he was doomed at 12hun
[2017-03-10 02:10:58] sleger : after approval
[2017-03-10 02:11:07] sleger : no he said his liq is 2000+
[2017-03-10 02:11:12] cryptokeeper : lol
[2017-03-10 02:21:40] foobar : anyone know how the announcment will be made. is there a website i can keep refreshing to know the outcome as soon as it happens?
[2017-03-10 02:22:33] lockhedge : foobar: https://www.sec.gov/rules/sro/batsbzx.htm
[2017-03-10 02:22:41] rms : what's the actual pressure that's driving dash up so much?
[2017-03-10 02:23:07] startChat : rms: marketing
[2017-03-10 02:26:17] startChat : claim to fix the "governance issue"
[2017-03-10 02:29:01] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: buy 360 @ 0.015130
[2017-03-10 02:33:44] finnagetdooped : i wonder how much rapids fees are atm
[2017-03-10 02:38:26] sleger : finnagetdooped: https://www.bitmex.com/app/fees
[2017-03-10 02:42:31] rapidtrades : no i said my liq is above 2k
[2017-03-10 02:42:43] rapidtrades : obv im not gonna let it go that far with ETF
[2017-03-10 02:44:16] rapidtrades : another reminder for shorts to use isolated margin
[2017-03-10 02:44:30] rapidtrades : don't let the bastards get free money
[2017-03-10 02:44:39] elmorte : that's for pu$$ies
[2017-03-10 02:44:39] sleger : dont be stupid
[2017-03-10 02:44:50] elmorte : that's how you get shaken out :p
[2017-03-10 02:44:54] sleger : saying that will work both ways, you just reminded longs to ADL you dummy @rapidtrades
[2017-03-10 02:44:54] rapidtrades : I WANT ALL OF THEM ADLed ABOVE 1300
[2017-03-10 02:45:15] rapidtrades : sleger: longs are too stupid to take my advice
[2017-03-10 02:45:27] elmorte : too busy counting monies
[2017-03-10 02:45:29] rapidtrades : they're all highly leveraged anyway
[2017-03-10 02:45:32] sleger : in general your advice sucks anyways
[2017-03-10 02:45:35] sleger : buy ZEC at 3
[2017-03-10 02:45:38] sleger : sell btc at 800
[2017-03-10 02:45:46] rapidtrades : fu sleger
[2017-03-10 02:46:15] sleger : maybe redeem yourself
[2017-03-10 02:46:17] sleger : buy ETH
[2017-03-10 02:46:22] sleger : god will forgive you