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<< >> English 中文 Русский 한국어 日本語 Español Français [2017-03-09 17:23:07] BitMEX_Sam : Try a browser restart and try turning the chart off [2017-03-09 17:23:38] vgck : amaru: Just getting started mate [2017-03-09 17:23:49] Apocalyptic : so I'm sure rapid is not alone [2017-03-09 17:23:56] Merlin : amaru: That's what I was feeling but the dips keep being bought pretty much immediately. Not sure [2017-03-09 17:23:56] kurkudu : rejndjer: u have no idea how many people shorted these days and waiting for farther drop [2017-03-09 17:24:14] tb : BitMEX_Greg: it makes sense shorter funding periods causes the swap to trade closer to spot, but what is the rationale for having it set to 8 hrs by default? i.e. what advantages do longer funding periods have? [2017-03-09 17:24:16] amaru : 300 wall on finex [2017-03-09 17:24:22] rejndjer : kurkudu: u have no idea how many people will start shorting once etf gets denied [2017-03-09 17:25:08] jigsaw : Friday night is always week dump night [2017-03-09 17:25:19] BitMEX_Greg : tb: Basically it helps smooth out sudden knee-jerk movements in the market that could cause spiked rates [2017-03-09 17:25:39] amaru : rejndjer: close that shortt of yours? [2017-03-09 17:25:40] .. : shorts on finex are actually down, but also bit less longs https://www.bfxdata.com/positions/btcusd [2017-03-09 17:25:42] rapidtrades : all of these exchanges are unusable for day trading unless ur running bots <<< newbs beware [2017-03-09 17:26:00] rejndjer : amaru: now im not overleveraged, and my liq. price is 1300+ [2017-03-09 17:26:02] rejndjer : so gl with pumping [2017-03-09 17:26:07] alfaCharlie : /wall [2017-03-09 17:26:10] trollbot : ``` ±$10 Bid|Ask liq : (1 hour, 54 mins) $773K (28.48%) | $2726K (-0.47%) ``` [2017-03-09 17:26:11] vgck : That 100 BTC wall is annoying, hopefully he pulls it again soon [2017-03-09 17:26:15] kurkudu : most of you will be rekt with your shorts before etf anouncement, only rapid survives [2017-03-09 17:26:27] .. : hehe [2017-03-09 17:26:41] rapidtrades : no wonder all the bot makers here are loaded, they get to skip the line hile we're stuck with this shit web-based interface [2017-03-09 17:26:49] jigsaw : Rapidissima buying like crazy [2017-03-09 17:27:56] tb : BitMEX_Greg: couldn't you guys take the eg 80th percentile of the premium/discount over mark to smooth that out for shorter periods? [2017-03-09 17:28:23] tb : or the average of 20-80th percentiles or something [2017-03-09 17:28:31] amaru : support almost gone on finex [2017-03-09 17:28:33] amaru : lez dump [2017-03-09 17:28:55] activemind : Where is nonagoo [2017-03-09 17:29:07] KyllingLolsson : activemind: are u noganoo? [2017-03-09 17:29:14] BitMEX_Greg : tb: We don't want to make the calculation more complicated than it already is [2017-03-09 17:29:14] .. : yeh, shouldnt trust orderbook, but finex looks pretty scary lol [2017-03-09 17:30:35] -_- : finex order book has millions of dollars worth added in support [2017-03-09 17:30:45] -_- : dont be a weak hand. buy and hold [2017-03-09 17:30:58] vgck : It looks like we're about to dump tbh [2017-03-09 17:31:03] vgck : /wall [2017-03-09 17:31:07] vgck : /walls [2017-03-09 17:31:08] trollbot : ``` ±$10 Bid|Ask liq : (4 mins) $928K (-3.09%) | $2642K (20.00%) ``` [2017-03-09 17:31:13] amaru : we should at least get some more <1200 action [2017-03-09 17:31:19] vgck : Not looking good at all [2017-03-09 17:31:34] activemind : Am not [2017-03-09 17:31:41] ferpozie : BitMEX_Greg: hello, does leverage/margin make make more profit? [2017-03-09 17:31:47] amaru : resistance on finex getting bigger but yeah who cares its fake right? [2017-03-09 17:31:50] bitcoinfreedom : I see 950 on the horizon folks [2017-03-09 17:32:14] .. : > `this` _is looking_ **bad** [2017-03-09 17:32:14] BitMEX_Greg : ferpozie: If you are leveraged, and the price moves in your favour then you will earn a higher return on your assigned margin [2017-03-09 17:32:29] BitMEX_Greg : Conversely you will lose more if the price moves against you. [2017-03-09 17:33:02] vgck : Stamp orderbook is looking almost vertical, it's a steep fall down [2017-03-09 17:33:13] amaru : lil dump on finex [2017-03-09 17:33:32] bitcoinfreedom : even an ETF approval (very unlikely) will have a spike that's sold into [2017-03-09 17:33:52] kurkudu : ferpozie: try all in 100x, you would be surprised with the result [2017-03-09 17:33:54] rapidtrades : FUCK sec [2017-03-09 17:34:02] vgck : We might be retesting 1185 soon [2017-03-09 17:34:12] vgck : rapidtrades: lol I just want this to be over already [2017-03-09 17:34:31] RocketScience : we want alt summer [2017-03-09 17:34:39] bitcoinfreedom : will be over within 31 hours or less [2017-03-09 17:34:51] vgck : bitcoinfreedom: deadline is monday... [2017-03-09 17:35:01] RocketScience : such a suspense [2017-03-09 17:35:06] RocketScience : everybody on the edge [2017-03-09 17:35:06] KyllingLolsson : kurkudu: very suprised when u get that liq email [2017-03-09 17:35:16] .. : meh 90% sure it will be friday, -but- I think the public document could be saturday early morning [2017-03-09 17:35:17] bitcoinfreedom : yes, but the SEC will relase a statement by Friday evening [2017-03-09 17:35:37] RocketScience : Yanet Yellen will approve printing of bitcoins [2017-03-09 17:35:39] bitcoinfreedom : I have communicated with them multiple times now. [2017-03-09 17:36:33] bitcoinfreedom : the "source" in the coindesk article most likely came from my conversations. [2017-03-09 17:37:05] .. : they sometimes upload those documents late though, thats the only tricky thing, cuz obv winklevoss and partners will know it hours before that [2017-03-09 17:37:09] bitcoinfreedom : they know a Monday release would create temporary chaos [2017-03-09 17:37:56] kurkudu : KyllingLolsson: you may disable liquidation email in Preferences and enjoy all in 100x full power [2017-03-09 17:38:15] KyllingLolsson : wow @kurkudu just wake up the next day and feel the rape [2017-03-09 17:38:36] RocketScience : the more leverage you have, the more mark price behaves eratically (on futures) [2017-03-09 17:38:57] RocketScience : i got liquidated below bid price some times . [2017-03-09 17:39:16] amaru : dump [2017-03-09 17:39:27] bitcoinfreedom : most likely have a intermediate top in place for ETH and BTC [2017-03-09 17:39:39] jigsaw : Pump the dump [2017-03-09 17:40:26] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 160000 @ 1199.71 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished: [2017-03-09 17:40:38] vgck : Why does everyone call it a dump if we drop $2? [2017-03-09 17:40:47] -_- : epic [2017-03-09 17:40:48] RocketScience : 1600$ [2017-03-09 17:41:02] Merlin : vgck: for real lol [2017-03-09 17:41:03] RocketScience : because we are all in 100x [2017-03-09 17:41:11] RocketScience : 2$ dump is scary as fuck [2017-03-09 17:41:15] Actualiteit : RocketScience: but im not [2017-03-09 17:41:17] .. : buy the $2 dip before im rekt! [2017-03-09 17:41:18] Actualiteit : or am I? [2017-03-09 17:41:21] Sultan Pepper : RocketScience: gl m8 [2017-03-09 17:41:26] RocketScience : i am not anymore...xD [2017-03-09 17:41:29] -_- : ahhh my 100x long. where are you going btc [2017-03-09 17:41:39] RocketScience : i mean i was in the past and i lost all my big moneys [2017-03-09 17:41:51] -_- : someone just dumped march down $10 [2017-03-09 17:41:56] Merlin : fuck. 500 BTC market sell on Coinbase :o [2017-03-09 17:42:12] RocketScience : i hate these monthly futures...market maker can destroy you [2017-03-09 17:42:13] Sultan Pepper : -_-: are you that funny guy from nickelodeon? [2017-03-09 17:42:15] -_- : guess i should have bailed at 1220 [2017-03-09 17:42:16] Sultan Pepper : face [2017-03-09 17:42:17] -_- : i wish Sultan Pepper [2017-03-09 17:42:19] picasso : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgSaffAnk6g learn market structure guys , dont get rekt [2017-03-09 17:42:20] -_- : sounds like a nic enice [2017-03-09 17:42:28] -_- : nice life* [2017-03-09 17:42:42] -_- : i'm still waiting on transparent notifications. [2017-03-09 17:42:51] Sultan Pepper : -_-: but he's Face, and so are you... [2017-03-09 17:42:58] -_- : and be able to click what is behind the notifications [2017-03-09 17:43:36] RocketScience : i am mentally entering trades to see if my decision would be right [2017-03-09 17:43:40] RocketScience : like whole day :D [2017-03-09 17:43:41] rejndjer : rip all people buying above 1200 [2017-03-09 17:43:46] -_- : damn [2017-03-09 17:43:55] -_- : so much for hoping that was the pump before approval [2017-03-09 17:44:10] RocketScience : look at the sell walls on COIN bet [2017-03-09 17:44:21] RocketScience : but that doesnt matter [2017-03-09 17:44:22] rejndjer : -_-: more like a really nice bull trap [2017-03-09 17:44:31] vgck : -_-: Just a correction, unless we break 1185 we still going up to 1230-1250 imo [2017-03-09 17:44:45] -_- : all right guys. i will buy the dip. good talk [2017-03-09 17:44:46] finnagetdooped : Goes up 70$ then retraces 10, "so much for that pump" lol [2017-03-09 17:44:57] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 500 @ 1196.51 [2017-03-09 17:45:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 20 @ 1195.32 [2017-03-09 17:45:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 2000 @ 1196.02 [2017-03-09 17:45:02] REKT : Close your longs, close your shorts, choppy waters ahead! [2017-03-09 17:45:08] RocketScience : rapidtrades has furiously dumped his bags [2017-03-09 17:45:12] rejndjer : choppy times [2017-03-09 17:45:26] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 2000 @ 1193.65 [2017-03-09 17:45:39] -_- : i broke my F5 key refreshing the SEC website. tell me when it is approved or rejected [2017-03-09 17:46:06] vgck : -_-: The $500 move in price will tell you [2017-03-09 17:46:08] RocketScience : -_-: Open windows virtual keyboard and break your left mouse button too [2017-03-09 17:46:16] amaru : pheww thanks guys i closed my shitty short now lets pump this! [2017-03-09 17:46:18] amaru : XD [2017-03-09 17:46:23] vgck : The SEC site is gonna be dead from volume anyway [2017-03-09 17:46:31] kurkudu : nice to see so many 100x users here [2017-03-09 17:46:48] RocketScience : SEC site will be "ddosed" from all the clickers [2017-03-09 17:47:06] amaru : i cant handle this much uncertainty lol [2017-03-09 17:47:13] amaru : everybody feeling it?!? [2017-03-09 17:47:14] .. : i got a script checking it every 20 seconds ;p [2017-03-09 17:47:17] RocketScience : yeah [2017-03-09 17:47:26] .. : (still im sure ill be too late) [2017-03-09 17:47:30] bitcoinfreedom : I'm guessing most of us have hit refresh 100+ times on the SEC page. [2017-03-09 17:48:06] amaru : you feeling it guys?? ......https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0b26GS8b9o [2017-03-09 17:48:16] bitcoinfreedom : price will be the fastest messenger [2017-03-09 17:48:26] Apocalyptic : ^^^ [2017-03-09 17:48:29] .. : yep [2017-03-09 17:48:36] Merlin : bitcoinfreedom: +1 [2017-03-09 17:48:39] Apocalyptic : when you see a $50 move you'll know it's out [2017-03-09 17:48:43] RocketScience : 10k btc insta buy or sell? [2017-03-09 17:49:03] -_- : wow bitfinex [2017-03-09 17:49:05] -_- : nice fomo [2017-03-09 17:49:05] amaru : that bounce! daaaayumm [2017-03-09 17:49:19] RocketScience : orderbook is a flatland [2017-03-09 17:49:26] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTH17`: buy 450 @ 1212.25 [2017-03-09 17:49:27] amaru : -_-: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0b26GS8b9o [2017-03-09 17:49:28] -_- : up up and away [2017-03-09 17:49:43] -_- : amaru: word [2017-03-09 17:49:49] amaru : lol [2017-03-09 17:49:50] -_- : i'm so pumped [2017-03-09 17:49:53] Vintage : guys bitcoin actually looking strong.. i think tomorrow we will see godo news [2017-03-09 17:50:04] -_- : i am going to go balls deep in a 50x long [2017-03-09 17:50:14] -_- : see you in adl land [2017-03-09 17:50:40] -_- : i missed out on that DASH pump [2017-03-09 17:51:02] RoftheN : So [2017-03-09 17:51:03] RoftheN : ETF [2017-03-09 17:51:08] RoftheN : Any news last week? Was busy [2017-03-09 17:51:28] RocketScience : they said it will be out by friday [2017-03-09 17:51:33] RocketScience : citing "source" [2017-03-09 17:51:34] RoftheN : So tomorrow? [2017-03-09 17:51:41] RocketScience : yes [2017-03-09 17:51:47] RoftheN : exciting [2017-03-09 17:51:52] RoftheN : So what would be wise to put? [2017-03-09 17:51:53] GT : RoftheN: some funny timing by sec on an expidted rules change that seems to affect the same rule that btc etf is under, so pos news, but still ambiguous [2017-03-09 17:51:56] Ahhere : RoftheN: `ETF APPROVED` [2017-03-09 17:52:56] Ahhere : *chanting begins* [2017-03-09 17:53:11] Ahhere : *ETF ETF ETF ETF* [2017-03-09 17:53:12] RocketScience : Money song "hums" [2017-03-09 17:53:13] hmmmYea : GT: i read that it seemed to be unrelated to bitcoin. is there a reason you think it was? [2017-03-09 17:53:47] RocketScience : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exJlapzPnlc [2017-03-09 17:53:57] RocketScience : Goodbye [2017-03-09 17:54:03] GT : hmmmYea: just that it mentions using 3rd party indexes and some other small bits [2017-03-09 17:54:43] -_- : the winkledinks are making an announcement at 4pm [2017-03-09 17:54:44] -_- : ooo boy [2017-03-09 17:54:50] GT : hmmmYea: also why would you expidite a rules change, unless its to affect something in immediate near future? but who knows [2017-03-09 17:55:05] GT : -_-: source? [2017-03-09 17:55:10] Ahhere : RocketScience: lol [2017-03-09 17:55:22] hmmmYea : GT: i think the bitcoin etf is kind of a minnow in the SEC's pond [2017-03-09 17:55:28] RocketScience : Ahhere: Good luck! [2017-03-09 17:55:44] Ahhere : RocketScience: and also with you [2017-03-09 17:55:57] irishsia : -_-: source? [2017-03-09 17:56:00] daigo : 4pm which time zone? [2017-03-09 17:56:24] Ahhere : What will they be wearing? [2017-03-09 17:56:27] GT : hmmmYea: no doubt, unless its some stance on future tech, and flag planting [2017-03-09 17:56:47] Ahhere : Will they be matchy matchy or switch it up?? [2017-03-09 17:57:27] kurkudu : tomorrow 4 pm BJ time during okc settlement [2017-03-09 17:57:33] jordanbitfort : Source on winklevoss 4pm? [2017-03-09 17:58:12] Merlin : -_-: source please [2017-03-09 17:58:17] daigo : kurkudu: blow job time is morning? [2017-03-09 17:59:50] bitcoinfreedom : daigo: lol [2017-03-09 17:59:54] Ahhere : , @Merlin just buy like everyone else [2017-03-09 18:00:24] kurkudu : and enjoy morning blow job [2017-03-09 18:00:25] Merlin : Ahhere: Oh I am. More information would be nice though. Lots of uncertainty now [2017-03-09 18:00:29] oo : when will sec announce? [2017-03-09 18:02:28] MrRGnome : Just like to pop in with a round of "eat a dick" for all the bears mocking my dip buys yesterday. [2017-03-09 18:02:47] MrRGnome : I ended up making a good bit on that move back up. [2017-03-09 18:02:55] Ahhere : ^^^ here here [2017-03-09 18:03:12] arbitrage101 : some will have a full mouth later this week regardless of outcome [2017-03-09 18:03:30] Ahhere : Lol and a full butt. [2017-03-09 18:03:41] arbitrage101 : i am going all flat [2017-03-09 18:03:50] arbitrage101 : good luck, bear or bull [2017-03-09 18:04:07] souldierz : so btf etf [2017-03-09 18:04:15] souldierz : what are the chances now? [2017-03-09 18:04:42] arbitrage101 : souldierz: odd is going lower according to the bet here [2017-03-09 18:04:59] arbitrage101 : but many believe othwerwise [2017-03-09 18:05:09] MrRGnome : souldierz: the market has pretty much affirmed that they view very little chance of success [2017-03-09 18:05:18] MrRGnome : It makes a good buy if you want to gamble the odds imo [2017-03-09 18:06:35] .. : meh, zoom out.. seems like market did buy into the ETF hope, just get bit scary few days before actual decision [2017-03-09 18:06:43] Ahhere : Its basically a home run @souldierz tbh [2017-03-09 18:07:04] .. : (of course it could be still a good gamble based on odds etc) [2017-03-09 18:07:05] daigo : less than 14 hours then [2017-03-09 18:07:12] bingbongfly : Hey. does anyone know when the next quarterlies xbt will open? Should be soon right [2017-03-09 18:07:28] daigo : if the news is true about the announcement [2017-03-09 18:07:56] GT : yeah anyone track that down, looks like just some troll fodder? [2017-03-09 18:08:41] daigo : nothing on my side [2017-03-09 18:09:46] Ahhere : Nothing on Reddit. Fake news CONFIRMED. [2017-03-09 18:09:55] bingbongfly : new quarterlies already at 100$ premium!! [2017-03-09 18:11:19] startChat : bingbongfly: march 17 [2017-03-09 18:11:34] bingbongfly : startChat: thanks [2017-03-09 18:11:44] bingbongfly : the premium will shoot up instantly I believe' [2017-03-09 18:11:52] startChat : bingbongfly: https://blog.bitmex.com/coin-etf-event-horizon/ [2017-03-09 18:12:09] startChat : "XBTM17 basis could trade into 100’s of percentage points throughout the contract’s life." [2017-03-09 18:13:21] bingbongfly : yeah, im reading it atm [2017-03-09 18:13:23] bingbongfly : crazy [2017-03-09 18:13:59] bingbongfly : selling futures buying spot, then just wait for settlement.. [2017-03-09 18:13:59] Ahhere : "The EV is positive, meaning it behooves traders to be net long Bitcoin into the decision" [2017-03-09 18:14:12] Ahhere : Had me at behooves [2017-03-09 18:14:59] Merlin : Ahhere: lol that's a good point though. my thought process exactly [2017-03-09 18:15:10] Sjah812 : minimum amount to buy XBT, COIN_BH17 , Doge [2017-03-09 18:15:33] Merlin : Doge? [2017-03-09 18:15:39] rapidtrades : article buy bitcoin into ETF, if denied BTFD [2017-03-09 18:15:46] rapidtrades : very irresponsible [2017-03-09 18:15:54] Sjah812 : DASH* [2017-03-09 18:16:05] MrRGnome : rapidtrades: As irresponsible as shorting 800 through 1300? [2017-03-09 18:16:13] rapidtrades : guess exchanges gotta ush the perma-bull narrative [2017-03-09 18:16:19] Ahhere : Zing! [2017-03-09 18:16:27] MrRGnome : exchanges make money either way, you know that. [2017-03-09 18:16:47] rapidtrades : they make a lot more now thats for sure [2017-03-09 18:17:04] MrRGnome : They don't care if it's a rush of demand for buys than sells, they just care there is a rush of demand. [2017-03-09 18:17:31] rapidtrades : trsut mt they care [2017-03-09 18:17:34] Drbrule : have you noticed the pattern of all you idiots not knowing a god damn thing about what you're telling people?! Weird [2017-03-09 18:17:56] MrRGnome : What imaginary numbers are you using o form your conclusion [2017-03-09 18:18:35] MrRGnome : Do you have a belief that secretly exchanges are hording their own btc and are net long? Because that would be a horribly reckless business decision [2017-03-09 18:20:38] Ahhere : Drbrule: he drbrule [2017-03-09 18:20:43] Ahhere : *hey [2017-03-09 18:22:37] Drbrule : yars [2017-03-09 18:22:40] Drbrule : *yes [2017-03-09 18:23:49] Sjah812 : minimum amount to invest in XBT AND COIN_17 and DASH plz? [2017-03-09 18:24:42] MrRGnome : Sjah812: ... 0 contracts is the minimum. [2017-03-09 18:26:17] Sjah812 : :? [2017-03-09 18:26:32] MrRGnome : My thoughts exactly. [2017-03-09 18:26:32] Drbrule : haha [2017-03-09 18:27:20] Ahhere : `ETF APPROVED BY EXECUTIVE ORDER` https://imgur.com/5NZsJ6h [2017-03-09 18:27:33] KyllingLolsson : /sentiment [2017-03-09 18:27:35] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 55.62 / 44.38 Daily : 47.51 / 52.49 Weekly : 54.32 / 45.68 Monthly : 50.55 / 49.45``` [2017-03-09 18:28:39] MrRGnome : It's amazing that the price recovers even just a little and suddenly all the loud angry bears go back tot heir caves [2017-03-09 18:28:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `DASH7D`: sell 350 @ 0.040398 [2017-03-09 18:28:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `DASH7D`: sell 100 @ 0.040962 [2017-03-09 18:28:56] MrRGnome : Where are all the pissed off and superior bears today? [2017-03-09 18:29:31] Ahhere : liquidated mostly [2017-03-09 18:30:02] MrRGnome : They only get one day every month or so to pretend they are doing well, so I guess it makes sense they party hard then go back to sleep. [2017-03-09 18:30:20] -_- : big dash dump [2017-03-09 18:30:29] Ahhere : DASH TEETERING. will she touch march 2nd 0.047 for a lovely double top [2017-03-09 18:30:32] degen : Idk why I wasn't trading perpetual before, this liquidity is sooooo much better than March [2017-03-09 18:30:49] -_- : degen: true [2017-03-09 18:30:50] MrRGnome : degen: because fees are a cruel mistress [2017-03-09 18:31:01] -_- : degen: but march gets a premium which = free money [2017-03-09 18:31:14] -_- : and no funding every 8 hours [2017-03-09 18:31:37] degen : True but anything over 300k contracts is difficult in March [2017-03-09 18:31:46] degen : Much more difficult [2017-03-09 18:31:57] MrRGnome : check out mr big spender over here [2017-03-09 18:32:02] Merlin : degen: /u/degenbets on reddit? [2017-03-09 18:32:23] degen : Merlin460? [2017-03-09 18:32:49] -_- : lol is degenbets in here [2017-03-09 18:32:55] -_- : thanks for your 27 btc [2017-03-09 18:33:11] degen : Was 23 but your welcome ;) [2017-03-09 18:33:13] -_- : degen: yeah hard to get in and out of big positions [2017-03-09 18:33:22] MrRGnome : If someone is giving away btc I'll take some. [2017-03-09 18:33:33] elmorte : man, I'd cry [2017-03-09 18:33:34] degen : Up 9 so far today. Don't call it a comeback! [2017-03-09 18:33:45] MrRGnome : I wouldn't you lost 23! [2017-03-09 18:34:02] elmorte : Yeah, no Barcelona @degen [2017-03-09 18:34:08] Sjah812 : is it ok to start trading with $50 for DASH and COIN_117 [2017-03-09 18:34:25] MrRGnome : Sjah812: You can trade whatever you want, just understand you're liekly to lose it. [2017-03-09 18:34:37] elmorte : Sjah812: what @MrRGnome said [2017-03-09 18:35:10] -_- : i'm trading march for now. hoping for ETF approval and huge premium. then i'll sell and trade swap till new quarterly next week friday [2017-03-09 18:35:16] BTC-Noob : https://www.sec.gov/comments/sr-batsbzx-2016-30/batsbzx201630.shtml [2017-03-09 18:35:36] Ahhere : oh snap they finally went and did it guise! [2017-03-09 18:36:13] BTC-Noob : i am shorting spot and longing futures with each opposite stop losses [2017-03-09 18:36:18] BTC-Noob : now i can sleep tranquilo [2017-03-09 18:36:27] Sjah812 : @MrRGnome Thankyou :D i just want to try my hand in this [2017-03-09 18:36:43] MrRGnome : Sjah812: gl hf, set stop losses. [2017-03-09 18:36:45] Merlin : BTC-Noob: there's nothing new there [2017-03-09 18:37:12] MrRGnome : If anyone is looking for something funny to read, read Dana K Barish letters tot eh sec [2017-03-09 18:37:21] MrRGnome : fucking moron has no idea how the SEC or btc even work [2017-03-09 18:37:40] MrRGnome : And she sent like 5 letters [2017-03-09 18:38:10] BTC-Noob : lol she probably is a huge bear looking at her name Dana K. Barish [2017-03-09 18:38:11] Ahhere : MrRGnome: chad rigsby wins though https://www.sec.gov/comments/sr-batsbzx-2016-30/batsbzx201630-136360.htm [2017-03-09 18:38:34] hmmmYea : MrRGnome: if you like that, just read this trollbox [2017-03-09 18:38:46] elmorte : Ahhere: lol, fckin Chad [2017-03-09 18:38:59] BTC-Noob : ahahahaha [2017-03-09 18:39:01] rapidtrades : Marcg 6, 2017 [2017-03-09 18:39:02] MrRGnome : The trollbox isn't submitted tot he sec for publication and review, I'd roffle pretty good if it was [2017-03-09 18:39:57] hmmmYea : hahaha [2017-03-09 18:40:02] BTC-Noob : guys remember we had the impossile trump win and also the weird brexit. BTC etf WILL and SHALL be approved [2017-03-09 18:40:21] rapidtrades : ur an idiot [2017-03-09 18:40:22] BTC-Noob : time to go long x25 [2017-03-09 18:40:32] rapidtrades : yeah u do that [2017-03-09 18:41:37] Ahhere : BTC-Noob: 25?? What a pusssy [2017-03-09 18:42:08] Ahhere : 100x swap and another 100x march and another 100x in your local bookies [2017-03-09 18:42:43] -_- : and if you still got some btc left over go all in long on COIN [2017-03-09 18:43:51] BTC-Noob : Ahhere: thank you [2017-03-09 18:44:04] BTC-Noob : is that a head and shoulder in the making [2017-03-09 18:45:05] -_- : okc quarterly futures had a huge 100,000 volume minute and open contracts went up 60,000 lol [2017-03-09 18:45:31] -_- : shady shady [2017-03-09 18:45:37] -_- : price barely moved too [2017-03-09 18:45:49] -_- : at least premium is back to $18 here on march [2017-03-09 18:46:03] KyllingLolsson : /sentiment [2017-03-09 18:46:07] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 29.69 / 70.31 Daily : 47.24 / 52.76 Weekly : 54.22 / 45.79 Monthly : 50.54 / 49.46``` [2017-03-09 18:46:12] BTC-Noob : / price [2017-03-09 18:46:25] BTC-Noob : /price [2017-03-09 18:46:29] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1200.00 (-0.50%) Bitfinex : 1201.30 (-0.22%) The Woodchipper : 1202.33 (-0.32%) itBit : 1200.21 (-0.56%) Kraken : 1200.00 (-0.25%) GDAX : 1203.92 (-0.75%) SLQ : 1 hour, 34 mins``` [2017-03-09 18:46:40] Apocalyptic : rapidtrades: kraken working for you ? [2017-03-09 18:46:53] rapidtrades : yyes [2017-03-09 18:47:23] BTC-Noob : look at all those prices at 1200 [2017-03-09 18:47:43] activemind : Will this ETF cause a pump or a dump?? [2017-03-09 18:47:52] Tetsuo : activemind: sideways [2017-03-09 18:47:57] MikeHunt : pass = dump [2017-03-09 18:47:59] activemind : On Btc price [2017-03-09 18:48:04] MikeHunt : pass = pump [2017-03-09 18:48:04] zy : it's bitcoin, anything is possible [2017-03-09 18:48:12] MikeHunt : fail = dump [2017-03-09 18:48:34] activemind : Tetsuo: wat do u mean byvl sideways [2017-03-09 18:50:17] hmmmYea : the math in the coin event horizon article is all wrong [2017-03-09 18:51:08] hmmmYea : unless your native currency is bitcoin or pegged to bitcoin [2017-03-09 18:51:26] hmmmYea : which is rare [2017-03-09 18:51:56] rapidtrades : u know what else is rare? [2017-03-09 18:52:13] rapidtrades : an ounce of common sense in this chat [2017-03-09 18:52:35] MrRGnome : I would have thought you got in all your jollies yesterday rapidtrades [2017-03-09 18:53:17] hmmmYea : good one [2017-03-09 18:53:32] Dynamix : We gOING DOWN BOYTZZZ [2017-03-09 18:54:24] Sjah812 : how to buy this ? [2017-03-09 18:54:57] hmmmYea : trollbox is not for sale [2017-03-09 18:55:11] Sjah812 : no no these coins [2017-03-09 18:55:46] Dynamix : Lets see how low we can go [2017-03-09 18:55:48] Dynamix : im 100x lol [2017-03-09 18:56:02] MrRGnome : You have to send btc tot he special deposit address. 1KgUnyvKYDGUKqhgnYjqQATsdmdFodWso4 @Sjah812 [2017-03-09 18:56:14] MrRGnome : 0.1 btc, to pay for fees [2017-03-09 18:56:35] hmmmYea : Sjah812: you cant. this site only deals in bitcoins. others sites will switch fiat currency into bitcoins for you [2017-03-09 18:57:04] hmmmYea : this site is just for betting on the other sites [2017-03-09 18:57:47] Sjah812 : so i've to create wallet address first ? [2017-03-09 18:58:23] MrRGnome : yes, and buy some btc from a local btc exchange. Then send the fees to the special deposit address I listed above [2017-03-09 18:58:52] hmmmYea : Sjah812: i would pick a site that lets you desposit fiat to buy bitcoins, then later you can make an address and send your coins there if you like [2017-03-09 18:59:40] Dynamix : so glad I gone out [2017-03-09 18:59:43] Dynamix : would've been rekt lolol [2017-03-09 18:59:57] MrRGnome : Dynamix: noooo, you called down so I'm sure it MUST go down. [2017-03-09 19:00:04] zy : good for you [2017-03-09 19:00:19] Dynamix : Hehe , It will go down [2017-03-09 19:00:21] Dynamix : look at the support lol [2017-03-09 19:00:22] Dynamix : /wall [2017-03-09 19:00:26] Dynamix : on bitfinex [2017-03-09 19:00:29] trollbot : ``` ±$10 Bid|Ask liq : (1 hour, 29 mins) $881K (-11.13%) | $2348K (-5.08%) ``` [2017-03-09 19:00:47] MrRGnome : Dynamix: You have a time frame? Even a broken clock is right twice a day, or in rapidtrades case twice a month. [2017-03-09 19:01:54] amaru : back to 1175 at least come on [2017-03-09 19:02:23] Dynamix : Ima short from more up [2017-03-09 19:02:27] Dynamix : and when I see momentum ;) [2017-03-09 19:02:46] MrRGnome : you know what we call a prediction that there will be "more up"? A long. [2017-03-09 19:02:49] MrRGnome : You're long. hahaha. [2017-03-09 19:02:53] MrRGnome : Live with it. [2017-03-09 19:06:27] ferpozie : Is someone giviing out free btc? [2017-03-09 19:06:48] ferpozie : Any bitmex admin here? [2017-03-09 19:07:13] Dynamix : ferpozie: I am , send me 1 btc I double it :) [2017-03-09 19:07:22] ferpozie : Lol.. [2017-03-09 19:07:32] Dynamix : In 30 minutes bro ;) [2017-03-09 19:07:41] ferpozie : Dynamix: Why not just double the one you have? [2017-03-09 19:07:58] Dynamix : only sent 0.07 [2017-03-09 19:08:00] Dynamix : btc in heere lol [2017-03-09 19:08:11] ferpozie : Have people made money from levergae and margin? [2017-03-09 19:08:22] Dynamix : When its my money i play emotionally [2017-03-09 19:08:26] Dynamix : when is someone elses [2017-03-09 19:08:27] Dynamix : idgaf :)) [2017-03-09 19:08:35] Dynamix : and go with gut feeling ;) [2017-03-09 19:09:46] ferpozie : for instance, if I do 100 X leverage/margin on 1 bitcoin and bitcoin price appreciates 50% and I get 150 bitcoin in all, do I walk away with51 bitcoin minus charges of bitmex? [2017-03-09 19:10:03] ferpozie : Dynamix: hmnn... guess its no deal [2017-03-09 19:10:20] Dynamix : lol [2017-03-09 19:10:25] Dynamix : go 50x with 1 btc [2017-03-09 19:10:30] Dynamix : ;) [2017-03-09 19:10:37] Dynamix : on short :)) [2017-03-09 19:15:02] BTC-Noob : eventhough etf will be rejectded tomorrow, btc will not tank much because usd/cnh is continuing its rally [2017-03-09 19:15:25] MrRGnome : ferpozie: when you gamble with btc that is on leverage you gain or loss the gains or losses of the position you are gambling with. [2017-03-09 19:15:28] Ahhere : Finally good news [2017-03-09 19:15:46] Ahhere : Game of thrones new season almost out [2017-03-09 19:16:05] QuinnTrades : That IS good news [2017-03-09 19:16:49] ferpozie : MrRGnome: So what is the sure way to make funds on a trade? abandon leverage? [2017-03-09 19:17:01] MrRGnome : ferpozie: There is no sure way to make money, it's all gambling. [2017-03-09 19:17:43] MrRGnome : You make a guess at which way the price will go, up or down, and you buy/sell that item with the intent of doing th eopposite buy/sell later, to make money on it. [2017-03-09 19:18:33] MrRGnome : I buy a bar of gold when it's worth $1000, I sell it when it's worth $1200, I made $200. I buy at $1000, it drops to $900, I lose $100 if I sell. [2017-03-09 19:18:46] superbeario : /sentiment [2017-03-09 19:18:49] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 34.80 / 65.20 Daily : 46.87 / 53.13 Weekly : 54.22 / 45.78 Monthly : 50.55 / 49.45``` [2017-03-09 19:18:59] superbeario : /price [2017-03-09 19:19:03] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1201.79 (0.15%) Bitfinex : 1202.30 (0.08%) The Woodchipper : 1200.50 (-0.15%) itBit : 1199.70 (-0.04%) Kraken : 1199.90 (-0.01%) GDAX : 1202.00 (-0.16%) SLQ : 32 mins``` [2017-03-09 19:20:30] QuinnTrades : And if it goes the opposite way that you want and you used leverage, it will take everything you own [2017-03-09 19:22:20] djkaltenudel : :D [2017-03-09 19:22:26] djkaltenudel : only if you are overleveraged [2017-03-09 19:22:51] djkaltenudel : you have to do some risk management [2017-03-09 19:23:48] QuinnTrades : I can't think of anything more stressful than this [2017-03-09 19:24:16] vgck : djkaltenudel: pfft "risk managment" [2017-03-09 19:24:24] QuinnTrades : thats some pussy shit [2017-03-09 19:24:29] vgck : I can't hear you over the sound of my 100x yolo long [2017-03-09 19:24:36] djkaltenudel : :D [2017-03-09 19:24:45] QuinnTrades : Moon am I right [2017-03-09 19:24:51] djkaltenudel : yeah sure [2017-03-09 19:24:58] djkaltenudel : little pullback first though ;) [2017-03-09 19:25:13] Heartwood : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtiIW1TPyME [2017-03-09 19:25:52] vgck : djkaltenudel: What? All charts are bullish why would we go down? [2017-03-09 19:26:25] vgck : djkaltenudel: How far do you think? You're making my 100x yolo nervious [2017-03-09 19:26:50] djkaltenudel : :D [2017-03-09 19:26:57] MrRGnome : vgck: 100x yolo should always be nervous. [2017-03-09 19:27:05] djkaltenudel : I would like a pullback to ichi cloud on daily [2017-03-09 19:27:14] djkaltenudel : so around 1000 sth like that [2017-03-09 19:27:27] Ahhere : djkaltenudel: dont be such a killjoy [2017-03-09 19:27:35] vgck : djkaltenudel: I would like a lot of things too, but we dont always get what we want [2017-03-09 19:27:46] QuinnTrades : what if I dont want them? [2017-03-09 19:27:51] MrRGnome : djkaltenudel: We won't see a retest of $1000 until etf is denied. [2017-03-09 19:27:57] vgck : But seriously tho, charts point to 1230-1250 before another drop [2017-03-09 19:28:02] djkaltenudel : MrRGnome: could be :) [2017-03-09 19:38:43] Ebit : is it possible for a trailing stop to not fill? [2017-03-09 19:39:16] MrRGnome : Ebit: If you have another stop set to close on trigger, maybe. [2017-03-09 19:39:34] rejndjer : /sentiment [2017-03-09 19:39:35] BitMEX_Greg : Ebit: As long as it has been triggered, then it submits a market order. [2017-03-09 19:39:37] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 30.37 / 69.63 Daily : 46.54 / 53.46 Weekly : 54.15 / 45.85 Monthly : 50.52 / 49.48``` [2017-03-09 19:41:26] MrRGnome : BitMEX_Greg: any work been done in the last 9 months on getting us the instrument specific insurance data? [2017-03-09 19:44:14] Ebit : BitMEX_Greg: ok but if I have another stop should I not set it to close on trigger? [2017-03-09 19:45:10] vgck : What's the difference between swap and march? Which should I use? [2017-03-09 19:46:23] rejndjer : can someone explain in short why are people against bitcoin unlimited? [2017-03-09 19:46:36] rejndjer : so much hate on reddit :S [2017-03-09 19:47:06] BitMEX_Greg : MrRGnome: Still in the pipeline [2017-03-09 19:47:25] BitMEX_Greg : Not one of our urgent priorities right now, we are working towards better engine performance etc [2017-03-09 19:47:37] Ahhere : rejndjer: "BITCOIN UNLIMITED has less reliable and established coders as well as causes mining centralization SHOCKER" is my headline news understanding [2017-03-09 19:47:57] hmmmYea : rejndjer: miners collect fees + the block reward. miners secure the blockchain and decide the winner in a hard for. BU will cause the fees to go to zero. [2017-03-09 19:48:02] BitMEX_Greg : Ebit: Close on Trigger is for pre-existing positions. So if you use it to OPEN positions, then it will be cancelled [2017-03-09 19:48:10] BitMEX_Greg : It only closes positions, not opens [2017-03-09 19:48:40] rejndjer : ok thx for trying to explain it, but i still dont understand shit, nvm im stupid xD [2017-03-09 19:48:45] hmmmYea : rejndjer: the rest is nonsense. its just fee collectors vs fee payers/bitcoin users. [2017-03-09 19:49:00] rejndjer : so its basically miners vs users? [2017-03-09 19:49:05] rejndjer : and miners are against BU? [2017-03-09 19:51:05] hmmmYea : rejndjer: no one will say that but i think thats what it is [2017-03-09 19:51:40] rejndjer : hmmmYea: ok so i actually understood it whole this time, thx :) [2017-03-09 19:52:09] MikeHunt : at some point the miners will have to be deposed [2017-03-09 19:52:10] MikeHunt : https://media1.britannica.com/eb-media/40/167640-004-90B75054.jpg [2017-03-09 19:53:02] hmmmYea : rejndjer: some of the mining pool operates keep the fees, but payout of block reward to the miners, so they have a disproportionate amount of power AND disproportionate exposure to fees [2017-03-09 19:53:34] hmmmYea : i think bitcoin is f'd long term bc of it. miners will always have all the power [2017-03-09 19:53:51] rejndjer : arent 90% miners coming from china? [2017-03-09 19:54:11] rejndjer : 90% of* [2017-03-09 19:55:04] hmmmYea : im not sure, but i dont think it matters, economic incentives transcend nationality [2017-03-09 19:56:01] MrRGnome : rejndjer: many are against BU because they oppose any contentious hard fork, it could have dire consequences if done poorly including irrevocable loss of coins. Some of that group take a "better safe than sorry" attitude as well, thinking that no matter how unlikely the risk of a messy hardfork, better to accommodate that risk by taking all precautions and doing every other scaling solution with less potential consiquence first. BU users are imaptient and idealistic. [2017-03-09 19:57:11] hmmmYea : people get really ideological about what is in reality a really unimportant technical spec with large financial ramifications [2017-03-09 19:57:21] imapotato : Hey guys [2017-03-09 19:57:25] imapotato : Is ETF going to be approved or no [2017-03-09 19:57:59] atimur : it will be [2017-03-09 19:58:02] atimur : trust [2017-03-09 19:58:12] finnagetdooped : it probably wont even be announced and pass without decision [2017-03-09 19:58:12] MrRGnome : imapotato: Market says no. I say market odds are too pessemistic, and it's worth a small long. [2017-03-09 19:58:14] atimur : long 2 btx x1 [2017-03-09 19:58:15] finnagetdooped : cause thats a thing [2017-03-09 19:58:17] petertheil : hmmmYea: except in Asia staking electricity is rather legal [2017-03-09 19:58:20] atimur : 100x [2017-03-09 19:58:58] Ahhere : imapotato: yes [2017-03-09 19:59:59] MrRGnome : finnagetdooped: It's never, ever happened before that something passed without decision [2017-03-09 20:00:08] hmmmYea : petertheil: yea, bitcoin has a lot of negative externalities that only exist bc people dont like throwing money away [2017-03-09 20:00:35] imapotato : Is that a yes or a no [2017-03-09 20:00:44] imapotato : I need to know whether to 50x long or 50x short [2017-03-09 20:00:54] petertheil : Next etf? You guessed it, ETC [2017-03-09 20:01:06] hmmmYea : hahaah [2017-03-09 20:01:06] Ahhere : imapotato: toss a potato and choose whichever side it lands on [2017-03-09 20:01:10] hmmmYea : THAT wont get approved [2017-03-09 20:01:10] imapotato : ETC is kill [2017-03-09 20:01:19] Dynamix : We gonna go down boyz [2017-03-09 20:01:22] Dynamix : gold onto your hats hehe [2017-03-09 20:01:46] petertheil : hmmmYea: watch the miners push it [2017-03-09 20:02:01] rejndjer : Dynamix: im surprised we're still here tbh [2017-03-09 20:02:21] Dynamix : myh me 2 [2017-03-09 20:02:26] Dynamix : bitstamp and bfx dumping ;) [2017-03-09 20:03:22] petertheil : hmmmYea: but the xternalities is basic corruption really offsets the profitability of miners in china vs the west. Even in Vietnam, indo, you can pay people off to have your elec and internet staked. It's jail time in Europe for that [2017-03-09 20:03:38] Doom : were going to 1800 after etf approved and back to 1200 [2017-03-09 20:03:53] Dynamix : First stop is 1150 doom ;) [2017-03-09 20:03:58] Dynamix : or atleast 1180 [2017-03-09 20:04:08] petertheil : /price [2017-03-09 20:04:12] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1198.35 (-0.29%) Bitfinex : 1196.00 (-0.52%) The Woodchipper : 1198.22 (-0.19%) itBit : 1197.00 (-0.23%) Kraken : 1197.00 (-0.24%) GDAX : 1200.91 (-0.09%) SLQ : 45 mins``` [2017-03-09 20:04:15] Dynamix : There is the momentum i waited for hehe [2017-03-09 20:04:39] Ahhere : Dynamix: short 100x quick [2017-03-09 20:04:48] Dynamix : I'm in already hehe [2017-03-09 20:05:03] Dynamix : I hope it breaks 1195 though [2017-03-09 20:05:10] Ahhere : u silly [2017-03-09 20:05:33] Dynamix : Hehe why ? ;) [2017-03-09 20:05:50] Dynamix : bitstamp df [2017-03-09 20:05:53] Dynamix : not doing anything lol [2017-03-09 20:06:18] Ebit : BitMEX_Greg: So setting a stop loss to close on trigger only closes positions. So does that mean there is a possibility to open positions with a stop loss that is not set to close on trigger? I didn;t think that was possible to open a position with a stop loss [2017-03-09 20:08:02] Dynamix : lollol [2017-03-09 20:08:48] Actualiteit : /wall [2017-03-09 20:08:51] zanza : guys, I have a family friend who is janitor at SEC main building [2017-03-09 20:08:51] trollbot : ``` ±$10 Bid|Ask liq : (1 hour, 8 mins) $812K (-22.34%) | $1824K (-7.81%) ```