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[2017-03-08 13:05:45] .. : rapidtrades: click link, put email, click link in email, put fake name for slack, ???, profit!!
[2017-03-08 13:06:08] .. : slack is somewhat strange, u have password for each "group" or something
[2017-03-08 13:06:46] cryptonoob : futures just froze, poke them!
[2017-03-08 13:08:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `DASH7D`: sell 5 @ 0.035942
[2017-03-08 13:09:08] mendax090 : Any thoughts on shorting Dash? I feel like it hasn't followed BTC's dip yet
[2017-03-08 13:09:32] thomaskikansha : bull's safe for now
[2017-03-08 13:10:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTH17`: buy 240000 @ 1218.13 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire:
[2017-03-08 13:10:24] Actualiteit : god damn dude why would you do that
[2017-03-08 13:11:05] rapidtrades : wtf why did that guy tekt himself
[2017-03-08 13:11:18] thomaskikansha : so highly leveraged
[2017-03-08 13:11:20] mendax090 : why did he allahu akbar?
[2017-03-08 13:11:24] l3f : rapidtrades: must be 100x or something
[2017-03-08 13:11:54] l3f : and shorted the dip
[2017-03-08 13:11:55] l3f : bad choice
[2017-03-08 13:12:18] l3f : rapidtrades: so rapid will be getting insane premiums apparently
[2017-03-08 13:12:25] l3f : bitmex gods are kind
[2017-03-08 13:12:27] mendax090 : rapidtrades: you shorting this?
[2017-03-08 13:13:27] -_- : 0.375% every 2 hours during bubble
[2017-03-08 13:13:29] thomaskikansha : omg I just went long
[2017-03-08 13:13:48] mendax090 : thomaskikansha: may god bless you sir
[2017-03-08 13:13:51] -_- : thomaskikansha: better hope ETF approved soon
[2017-03-08 13:14:01] Actualiteit : friday bruv
[2017-03-08 13:14:03] .. : being wrong might be a profitable trade with new funding rules
[2017-03-08 13:15:26] thomaskikansha : mendax090: maybe just for a scalp
[2017-03-08 13:15:37] thomaskikansha : good luck to me
[2017-03-08 13:16:18] thomaskikansha : at a very low leverage
[2017-03-08 13:16:50] Actualiteit : thomaskikansha: with proper risk management its okey, getting some nice 0.05 rofits here and there :)
[2017-03-08 13:17:15] thomaskikansha : I only trade 1x or max.2~3x
[2017-03-08 13:17:40] thomaskikansha : so far so good
[2017-03-08 13:17:57] mendax090 : Same here, max 3x
[2017-03-08 13:18:51] rapidtrades : f*cking slack is shit
[2017-03-08 13:18:52] rapidtrades : god damit
[2017-03-08 13:21:14] thomaskikansha : seems survived
[2017-03-08 13:21:17] thomaskikansha : nice
[2017-03-08 13:23:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 988 @ 1208.22
[2017-03-08 13:23:19] thomaskikansha : need to break that tiny downtrend on 15M
[2017-03-08 13:24:36] VitalikButerin : Going long has a very nice risk/reward ratio right now.
[2017-03-08 13:25:18] amaru : i dont like how this looks :(
[2017-03-08 13:25:26] amaru : vitalik is that you 4 real? omg
[2017-03-08 13:25:45] RoftheN : Is that hte real Vitalik?
[2017-03-08 13:25:56] amaru : you shorting eth7d?
[2017-03-08 13:26:30] Sultan Pepper : Omg starstruck
[2017-03-08 13:26:33] Ahhere : Hes been here for years pumping his eth. Its how all the greats do it
[2017-03-08 13:27:07] amaru : sound financial planing
[2017-03-08 13:32:26] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTH17`: buy 59436 @ 1228.86 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2017-03-08 13:32:26] REKT : Close your longs, close your shorts, choppy waters ahead!
[2017-03-08 13:34:24] cryptoyolo : SHORT IIIT
[2017-03-08 13:36:19] Dynamix : damn
[2017-03-08 13:36:37] thomaskikansha : more to go
[2017-03-08 13:41:01] Dynamix : Nobody wants to buy at these prices
[2017-03-08 13:41:18] Actualiteit : id rather buy at 1150
[2017-03-08 13:41:24] Actualiteit : or 2 dollars
[2017-03-08 13:41:50] Dynamix : if that 1200 wall on bfx drops
[2017-03-08 13:41:54] Dynamix : we are gonna see such a dip
[2017-03-08 13:41:59] Dynamix : 1100-1120 ;)
[2017-03-08 13:42:45] keesverhoeven : /sentiment
[2017-03-08 13:42:48] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 32.20 / 67.80 Daily : 50.36 / 49.64 Weekly : 54.16 / 45.84 Monthly : 50.58 / 49.42```
[2017-03-08 13:43:42] KyllingLolsson : wat
[2017-03-08 13:43:49] KyllingLolsson : that sentiment? How reliable is it?
[2017-03-08 13:44:10] Actualiteit : /wall
[2017-03-08 13:44:13] trollbot : ``` ±$30 Bid|Ask liq : (1 hour, 8 mins) $3.4m (-11.48%) | $5.4m (8.28%) ```
[2017-03-08 13:46:24] zy : are we breaking 1200 today?
[2017-03-08 13:49:56] superbeario : /sentiment
[2017-03-08 13:49:59] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 30.19 / 69.81 Daily : 50.37 / 49.64 Weekly : 54.15 / 45.85 Monthly : 50.57 / 49.43```
[2017-03-08 13:50:06] superbeario : /price
[2017-03-08 13:50:11] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1206.50 (0.55%) Bitfinex : 1209.10 (0.41%) The Woodchipper : 1209.44 (0.35%) itBit : 1208.10 (0.43%) Kraken : 1197.62 (-0.28%) GDAX : 1206.56 (0.23%) SLQ : 52 mins```
[2017-03-08 13:51:18] Farzad2 : /wall
[2017-03-08 13:51:30] trollbot : ``` ±$30 Bid|Ask liq : (7 mins) $4.1m (-21.92%) | $4.2m (23.46%) ```
[2017-03-08 13:52:49] spice : /rekt
[2017-03-08 13:52:49] trollbot : ``` 8 hours, 18 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 100000 @ 1176.14 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:```
[2017-03-08 13:52:49] trollbot : ``` 42 mins ago: Liquidated short on `XBTH17`: buy 240000 @ 1218.13 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire:```
[2017-03-08 13:52:50] trollbot : ``` 3 hours, 11 mins ago: Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 206649 @ 1224.02 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire:```
[2017-03-08 13:55:56] KyllingLolsson : Weeeeeee
[2017-03-08 13:56:00] zy : wall's gone
[2017-03-08 13:56:08] KyllingLolsson : fasten ur seatbelt
[2017-03-08 13:56:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 14000 @ 1201.32
[2017-03-08 13:56:46] mendax090 : Here we go guys
[2017-03-08 13:58:35] vgck : Not yet
[2017-03-08 13:58:42] vgck : We'd have to break 1195 or so
[2017-03-08 13:59:00] vgck : We could still bounce to 1230
[2017-03-08 14:00:32] -_- : stamp dump
[2017-03-08 14:00:41] KyllingLolsson : /price
[2017-03-08 14:00:45] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1196.92 (-0.79%) Bitfinex : 1199.50 (-0.79%) The Woodchipper : 1199.00 (-0.86%) itBit : 1200.43 (-0.63%) Kraken : 1197.00 (-0.05%) GDAX : 1198.28 (-0.69%) SLQ : 10 mins```
[2017-03-08 14:00:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 45000 @ 1198.80
[2017-03-08 14:00:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 30000 @ 1199.49
[2017-03-08 14:01:10] KyllingLolsson : /wall
[2017-03-08 14:01:18] vgck : Still not enough
[2017-03-08 14:01:44] KyllingLolsson : Soon
[2017-03-08 14:02:07] vgck : Maybe
[2017-03-08 14:02:17] vgck : For now we keep bouncing between here and about 1210
[2017-03-08 14:02:28] vgck : Either we break up or down
[2017-03-08 14:02:50] Actualiteit : /sentiment
[2017-03-08 14:04:15] KyllingLolsson : /sentiment
[2017-03-08 14:04:18] KyllingLolsson : wtf
[2017-03-08 14:04:20] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 55.77 / 44.23 Daily : 51.56 / 48.44 Weekly : 54.41 / 45.59 Monthly : 50.65 / 49.35```
[2017-03-08 14:04:42] KyllingLolsson : /wall
[2017-03-08 14:05:09] KyllingLolsson : /wall
[2017-03-08 14:05:36] trollbot : ``` ±$30 Bid|Ask liq : () $3.5m (0.00%) | $3.8m (0.00%) ```
[2017-03-08 14:05:44] Kalman : What are the arguments against the claim that Bitcoin is a Ponzi scheme?
[2017-03-08 14:06:38] bingbongfly : Kalman: haha wat?
[2017-03-08 14:06:42] rapidtrades : *crickets*
[2017-03-08 14:06:46] bingbongfly : What's the arguments FOR it
[2017-03-08 14:06:48] vgck : Kalman: There are none
[2017-03-08 14:07:08] vgck : bingbongfly: The current price vs it's lack of utlity
[2017-03-08 14:07:27] bingbongfly : vgck: dude, do you know what a ponzi is? A ponzi scheme requires an OPERATOR
[2017-03-08 14:07:28] -_- : time to rebuild 1200 support on stamp and bitfinex
[2017-03-08 14:07:31] bingbongfly : or someone at the top, profiting
[2017-03-08 14:07:36] bingbongfly : but here there is none
[2017-03-08 14:07:41] trollbot : ``` ±$30 Bid|Ask liq : (2 mins) $3.3m (9.38%) | $4.2m (-4.42%) ```
[2017-03-08 14:07:42] Kalman : bingbongfly: The network is not sustainable without Blockreward and increasing prices.
[2017-03-08 14:07:47] amaru : thomaskikansha: RIP
[2017-03-08 14:08:02] bingbongfly : Kalman: yes but there is no organization or operator
[2017-03-08 14:08:03] KyllingLolsson : wall almost gone
[2017-03-08 14:08:03] vgck : bingbongfly: You are right, I am sorry, it's not a ponzi scheme, just tulip mania. Much better, carry on.
[2017-03-08 14:08:14] bingbongfly : vgck: yes, tulip mania definitily
[2017-03-08 14:08:36] bingbongfly : so uneducated it's insane
[2017-03-08 14:09:45] Kalman : bingbongfly: No operator, right. But early investor profits first hand. The earliest investor was Satoshi.
[2017-03-08 14:10:11] Kalman : vgck: rofl
[2017-03-08 14:11:40] bingbongfly : Kalman: yes, doesn't make it a fking ponzi
[2017-03-08 14:11:44] mendax090 : Kalman: In a Ponzi Scheme early investors are paid with the money invested from new investors. Satoshi hasn't spend his Bitcoins yet
[2017-03-08 14:11:45] amaru : this is satoshis ponzi
[2017-03-08 14:12:00] bingbongfly : early investors in facebook, google profited, are those ponzis haha xD
[2017-03-08 14:12:08] rapidtrades : THE BIGGEST PONZI OF ALL TIME
[2017-03-08 14:12:30] mendax090 : Kalman: Also, a Ponzi Scheme doesn't need a business or an idea... Bitcoin it's a very good project with firm fundamentals
[2017-03-08 14:12:45] mendax090 : is*
[2017-03-08 14:13:12] vgck : mendax090: It has no fundamentals and there are already better more useful + practical coins out there
[2017-03-08 14:13:17] Kalman : bingbongfly: FB etc. have a cash flow stream. BTC not.
[2017-03-08 14:13:40] mendax090 : vgck: What do you mean BTC has no fundamentals? Without BTC those other new coins wouldn't exist
[2017-03-08 14:13:47] Kalman : bingbongfly: so BTC are a kind of hot potato
[2017-03-08 14:14:08] bingbongfly : Kalman: just nonsense from you man..
[2017-03-08 14:14:19] daigo : Ponzi sells "stuff" that can be easily produced
[2017-03-08 14:14:23] daigo : bitcoin are NOT
[2017-03-08 14:14:24] mendax090 : Kalman: You're trying to think of BTC as a company when is not
[2017-03-08 14:14:29] daigo : same for tulips
[2017-03-08 14:14:49] vgck : mendax090: The only thing bitcoin has going for it is first to market, brand recognition, and the speculation that causes the bubbles. It had no real world use outside of the darknet. The price could drop to $100 and stay there and it would be natural
[2017-03-08 14:14:52] mendax090 : daigo: Ponzi doesn't even need to sell anything, as long as you pay early investors with the new money
[2017-03-08 14:14:53] daigo : the energy needed to produce a tulip was not comparable to the energy a tulip could buy
[2017-03-08 14:15:29] rapidtrades : shut the hell up daigo
[2017-03-08 14:15:31] mendax090 : vgck: Bitcoin is a payment system and a store of value. That's enough for it to have fundamentals
[2017-03-08 14:15:38] aguia7 : Kalman: The argument is, tell the person with education, like this: Pyramid is your head, you ass!
[2017-03-08 14:15:42] Kalman : mendax090: A stock may pay some dividend in the future, BTC itself doesnt. I need a future buyer to ...
[2017-03-08 14:15:43] daigo : in a Ponzi, you pay early investor by selling something to new investors
[2017-03-08 14:15:55] rapidtrades : lol @payment system
[2017-03-08 14:15:58] vgck : mendax090: Almost no one uses it as a payment system
[2017-03-08 14:16:02] rapidtrades : that has to be a joke
[2017-03-08 14:16:18] rapidtrades : THE MOST EXPENSIVE PAYMENT SYSTEM OF THEM ALL
[2017-03-08 14:16:22] Apocalyptic : mendax090: it's not a payment system
[2017-03-08 14:16:31] vgck : The high fees and complexity will ensure it's never used except for a small amount of enthusiasts
[2017-03-08 14:16:43] mendax090 : Bitcoin is a payment system, it sucks compared to the new technology, but still is a payment system and it is being used as such for the Darknet and other legit companies
[2017-03-08 14:16:44] daigo : in a ponzi you can sell an idea, a title, a contract, even a bitcoin.. but bitcoin is different because ANYONE can produce it by DOING A JOB (sustaining the network)
[2017-03-08 14:17:16] vgck : daigo: *wasting energy / performing useless hashes
[2017-03-08 14:17:18] mendax090 : Apocalyptic: As long as I can pay you with BTC, it will be considered a payment system
[2017-03-08 14:17:22] daigo : it sucks only because you see the buyer POV
[2017-03-08 14:17:32] Apocalyptic : mendax090: it's being used as such for NOW, because of the circumstances but it won't be for long
[2017-03-08 14:17:35] mendax090 : Kalman: Idk where you trying to get, BTC is not a company
[2017-03-08 14:17:40] daigo : the seller POV is different: a credit card is actually settled two months LATER
[2017-03-08 14:17:59] aguia7 : So say to those who said that bitcoin is ponzi: are you stupid anyway? Or are you kidding?
[2017-03-08 14:18:06] Apocalyptic : mendax090: I can use some wood as a boat, does that make it a boat ?
[2017-03-08 14:18:21] daigo : because of the frauds with credit cards... you can deny a payment two months later and the seller must prove he's correct
[2017-03-08 14:18:31] mendax090 : Apocalyptic: As long as it floats
[2017-03-08 14:19:03] daigo : aguia7: they simply don't understand bitcoin
[2017-03-08 14:19:04] mendax090 : Apocalyptic: Also, if you can pay me with wood, wood would be considered a payment systme
[2017-03-08 14:19:16] Apocalyptic : it floats on water sure, but there as superior boats
[2017-03-08 14:19:42] Ahhere : Kalman: to be fair Bernie madhoff started in 80s and ended in 2008 so 10 history doesn't make bitcoin less likely to be a Ponzi
[2017-03-08 14:19:42] Apocalyptic : and nowadays when you look at wood, you don't think about it as a boat
[2017-03-08 14:19:42] mendax090 : Apocalyptic: I'm not denying that BTC currently sucks. But it still works
[2017-03-08 14:20:00] Apocalyptic : in a couple years down it will be regarded the same way
[2017-03-08 14:20:06] Apocalyptic : I'm not saying it sucks btw
[2017-03-08 14:20:08] mendax090 : I think ETH is the only legit crypto right now
[2017-03-08 14:20:10] Kalman : mendax090: @daigo without the blockreward maintaining the network is unprofitable. Blocks are full. So fees have to rise 12x. Will anybody use it at this price?
[2017-03-08 14:20:14] Apocalyptic : it's just nit a payment system
[2017-03-08 14:20:29] daigo : vgck: it is not wasted energy because it makes it IMMUTABLE and CENSORSHIP resistant
[2017-03-08 14:20:32] Apocalyptic : it's a settlement layer/zero-trust store of value
[2017-03-08 14:20:39] .. : casinos use bitcoin as payment system just fine
[2017-03-08 14:20:40] .. : paypal doesnt want them
[2017-03-08 14:20:42] aguia7 : daigo: Good for us, when simple people understand. Bitcoin has already surpassed $ 10,000.
[2017-03-08 14:21:02] KyllingLolsson : /sentiment
[2017-03-08 14:21:03] vgck : daigo: Instead of pointless hashes it could be doing useful computation like other coins.
[2017-03-08 14:21:04] daigo : vgck: less energy would mean easier to change/trick/cheat/censor
[2017-03-08 14:21:04] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 55.56 / 44.44 Daily : 51.64 / 48.36 Weekly : 54.18 / 45.82 Monthly : 50.65 / 49.35```
[2017-03-08 14:21:20] KyllingLolsson : /wall
[2017-03-08 14:21:30] mendax090 : Kalman: The network is currently not unprofitable, and the block issue will be resolved in the future. Even if it doesn't, it will still be used as a store of value
[2017-03-08 14:21:37] Ahhere : daigo: @aguia7 I explained to a friend the amount of hashpower and energy securing bitcoin he finally got it
[2017-03-08 14:21:57] Apocalyptic : " it will still be used as a store of value " you got it
[2017-03-08 14:22:09] vgck : aguia7: It might never reach $10k aside from a quick bubble. Bitcoin will eventually be replaced or the market value will be divided amongst multiple coins
[2017-03-08 14:22:13] Apocalyptic : you won't use it to buy a cup of coffee everyday
[2017-03-08 14:22:19] daigo : vgck: I can agree, if there are useful computations, a perfect bitcoin would do those
[2017-03-08 14:22:40] mendax090 : Apocalyptic: But you can currently use it as a payment system
[2017-03-08 14:22:42] .. : meh, IMO second layers like LN can be part of bitcoin too.. which means in the future bitcoin could be used for your coffee
[2017-03-08 14:22:55] Apocalyptic : mendax090: yes, but it's temporary
[2017-03-08 14:22:57] .. : but the ~10 min block system is obv not good for physical goods/payments
[2017-03-08 14:23:18] Apocalyptic : due to some circumstances as to how it was created and such
[2017-03-08 14:23:22] Ahhere : Maybe the blocksize debate is just a battle of which happens first and both scaling solutions will ultimately be employed
[2017-03-08 14:23:24] mendax090 : Apocalyptic: If BTC doesn't scale yes
[2017-03-08 14:23:27] daigo : the reason why people don't use it as a payment is JUST the waiting for a block to confirm it.. too much time compared to VISA
[2017-03-08 14:23:29] Kalman : mendax090: Thats another. Store of value while you have to constantly put energy/money in.
[2017-03-08 14:23:40] aguia7 : vgck: I totally disagree They said the same thing, when the bitcoin, was worth 1 usd.
[2017-03-08 14:23:51] daigo : but when people accepts the unconfirmed transaction, that's another story
[2017-03-08 14:23:54] mendax090 : Kalman: Miners are rewarded by the block, and also by users who tip miners
[2017-03-08 14:24:01] Apocalyptic : Kalman: so ?
[2017-03-08 14:24:09] mendax090 : Kalman: they ain't doing it for free
[2017-03-08 14:24:12] Apocalyptic : storing gold also requires throwing money at it
[2017-03-08 14:24:21] Apocalyptic : you pay the facility/the guard etc
[2017-03-08 14:24:33] Kalman : mendax090: they wont do it without profit
[2017-03-08 14:24:36] daigo : a VISA transaction is unconfirmed by definition (that's why is usually signed on paper... proof for future disputes)
[2017-03-08 14:24:36] Apocalyptic : there is no zero-cost way to safely store value
[2017-03-08 14:24:49] mendax090 : Kalman: Of course they won't
[2017-03-08 14:24:58] rullwull : it takes almost 30 days for visa to transfer funds @daigo
[2017-03-08 14:24:58] Kalman : mendax090: And blockreward is reducing ..
[2017-03-08 14:25:12] daigo : rullwull: exactly
[2017-03-08 14:25:16] mendax090 : Kalman: So users will have to tip more
[2017-03-08 14:25:21] Kalman : Apocalyptic: Not if you have it under your desk
[2017-03-08 14:25:36] Apocalyptic : Kalman: great security you got there
[2017-03-08 14:25:47] mendax090 : Kalman: And blockreward might be decreasing, but BTC price has been increasing, so no really a difference in profit
[2017-03-08 14:26:41] Apocalyptic : Kalman: let me know when you store 6-digit worth of gold under your desk
[2017-03-08 14:26:47] Kalman : mendax090: But thats the argument for a Ponzi. If you dont find future buyers you are left with bits and buytes
[2017-03-08 14:27:12] Ahhere : Kalman: same with any currency
[2017-03-08 14:27:13] mendax090 : Kalman: Do you understand how Ponzi's work?
[2017-03-08 14:27:36] Kalman : Apocalyptic: its a little over 2 kg
[2017-03-08 14:27:42] Kalman : 2.5
[2017-03-08 14:28:01] mendax090 : Kalman: A single guy attracts money and then pays the new investors with that money and continues the cycle.. BTC doesn't do any of this.. Don't confuse Markets with a Ponzi Scheme
[2017-03-08 14:28:41] aguia7 : Bitcoin is the evolution of money. Paper money, will be museum piece one day.
[2017-03-08 14:29:05] daigo : Kalman: we don't need "future buyers" to make bitcoin work: it is exactly as GOLD: you don't need future buyers, just people willing to trade goods or service for gold
[2017-03-08 14:29:24] mendax090 : Kalman: But for real, if you really consider BTC might be a Ponzi Scheme, I'd recommend you watching Youtube videos or googling the differences.. Is a very basic concept and not know this will make you look bad
[2017-03-08 14:29:41] Actualiteit : life is a ponzi scheme
[2017-03-08 14:29:57] KyllingLolsson : Actualiteit: +1
[2017-03-08 14:30:25] daigo : mendax090: unfortunately, there is some Stolfi that says stuff like bitcoin/Ponzi.. this is very sad but true and we need to explain
[2017-03-08 14:30:39] KyllingLolsson : SAD!
[2017-03-08 14:30:52] KyllingLolsson : /wall
[2017-03-08 14:30:55] trollbot : ``` ±$30 Bid|Ask liq : (23 mins) $3.8m (-2.88%) | $4.0m (16.15%) ```
[2017-03-08 14:31:25] KyllingLolsson : /sentiment
[2017-03-08 14:31:27] Tetsuo : daigo: JorgeStolfi= BOSS
[2017-03-08 14:31:28] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 64.49 / 35.51 Daily : 51.39 / 48.61 Weekly : 54.22 / 45.78 Monthly : 50.65 / 49.35```
[2017-03-08 14:32:06] KyllingLolsson : /price
[2017-03-08 14:32:11] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1202.00 (20.20%) Bitfinex : 1199.60 (19.96%) The Woodchipper : 1199.83 (19.98%) itBit : 1201.35 (20.13%) Kraken : 1197.00 (19.70%) GDAX : 1193.57 (19.36%) SLQ : ```
[2017-03-08 14:32:14] daigo : Tetsuo: yes, Stolfi is the boss if you consider this a videogame.. ;-)
[2017-03-08 14:32:15] .. : breaking 1200 _again_, maybe this one will be fun (:
[2017-03-08 14:32:35] KyllingLolsson : Sooo close
[2017-03-08 14:32:39] rapidtrades : DO IT SEC BOYS
[2017-03-08 14:32:47] Farzad2 : GO GO
[2017-03-08 14:33:02] .. : would be pretty epic if ETF gets denied because of the letter of Stolfi
[2017-03-08 14:33:03] KyllingLolsson : If we were breaking up, it would be a much greater force behind
[2017-03-08 14:33:13] KyllingLolsson : like a MAJOR force
[2017-03-08 14:33:14] .. : would be more epic if it gets denied because of BU fork risk
[2017-03-08 14:33:28] .. : still hoping for approval though
[2017-03-08 14:33:38] daigo : I read Stolfi's comments to the SEC and he is completely ignorant on bitcoin, or just mentally sick, or just a VILLAIN...
[2017-03-08 14:33:54] .. : he knows bitcoin pretty well imo
[2017-03-08 14:34:18] daigo : So, he is a villain
[2017-03-08 14:34:22] .. : yes
[2017-03-08 14:34:27] rapidtrades : stolfi?
[2017-03-08 14:34:37] Farzad2 : we need more REKTs boys
[2017-03-08 14:34:38] daigo : He just compare bitcoin to Ponzi, that's REALLY STUPID
[2017-03-08 14:34:45] rapidtrades : ur stupid
[2017-03-08 14:35:15] daigo : nope, I'm italian, and I know Ponzi quite well
[2017-03-08 14:35:21] Apocalyptic : daigo: mybe he's just short
[2017-03-08 14:35:29] Farzad2 : /rekt
[2017-03-08 14:35:29] trollbot : ``` 3 hours, 54 mins ago: Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 206649 @ 1224.02 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire:```
[2017-03-08 14:35:29] trollbot : ``` 1 hour, 25 mins ago: Liquidated short on `XBTH17`: buy 240000 @ 1218.13 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire:```
[2017-03-08 14:35:29] trollbot : ``` 1 hour, 46 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 198517 @ 1213.38 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:```
[2017-03-08 14:35:36] .. : this was his letter https://www.sec.gov/comments/sr-batsbzx-2016-30/batsbzx201630-2.htm
[2017-03-08 14:35:38] Dynamix : Big drop incoming
[2017-03-08 14:35:57] -_- : stamp dump
[2017-03-08 14:36:18] aguia7 : ..: @Dynamix yes
[2017-03-08 14:36:27] .. : someone sold like 3 coins on stamp to move price $5, lol
[2017-03-08 14:37:08] daigo : he also mentions "penny stocks"... something that is 1000 dollars is a penny stock???? something valued more than Western Union is a penny stock??? Stolfi is evil or stupid, or evil stupid
[2017-03-08 14:37:36] Dynamix : C you at the bottom
[2017-03-08 14:37:52] REKT : Choppy waters make solid seamen!
[2017-03-08 14:37:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 50000 @ 1197.80 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2017-03-08 14:37:52] Apocalyptic : "the government is morally obliged to preserve the purchase value of that cash, to a reasonable degree" this made me smile
[2017-03-08 14:37:57] rapidtrades : cmon SEC u lazy SOBs
[2017-03-08 14:38:10] Apocalyptic : rapidtrades: do it nao!
[2017-03-08 14:38:27] rapidtrades : Shrem is out in slack shilling for ETF
[2017-03-08 14:38:29] laisee : unleash hell ...
[2017-03-08 14:38:29] Farzad2 : GOGOGO
[2017-03-08 14:38:33] Apocalyptic : the are going to troll us till friday evening
[2017-03-08 14:38:36] daigo : Apocalyptic: I hope SEC smiled too
[2017-03-08 14:39:03] Farzad2 : WTF is this ?
[2017-03-08 14:39:07] Farzad2 : comen on
[2017-03-08 14:39:07] laisee : Shrem is tote legit when it comes to influencing SEC.
[2017-03-08 14:39:10] Actualiteit : WTF was that?
[2017-03-08 14:39:19] daigo : SEC is buying till the real leak
[2017-03-08 14:39:35] laisee : SEC = OKC whale
[2017-03-08 14:39:42] -_- : all right time to make some money. 50x short
[2017-03-08 14:39:49] rapidtrades : 'whale'
[2017-03-08 14:39:57] Actualiteit : """"Whale""""
[2017-03-08 14:40:07] KyllingLolsson : """""""""""""whale
[2017-03-08 14:40:10] Farzad2 : ```WHALE```
[2017-03-08 14:40:11] laisee : quote whale unquote
[2017-03-08 14:40:23] -_- : _whale_
[2017-03-08 14:40:26] Farzad2 : WWHHAALLEE
[2017-03-08 14:40:29] KyllingLolsson : /whale
[2017-03-08 14:40:40] rapidtrades : INSIDERS SELLING?
[2017-03-08 14:40:41] laisee : /krill
[2017-03-08 14:40:41] Dempips : yo, why is bitcoin being shorted
[2017-03-08 14:40:45] KyllingLolsson : *sobs in whale*
[2017-03-08 14:40:46] Farzad2 : /rekt KyllingLolsson
[2017-03-08 14:40:50] Actualiteit : Dempips: yeah sorry bout that
[2017-03-08 14:40:57] .. : > `bearwhale`
[2017-03-08 14:41:15] Dempips : Actualiteit: are u short
[2017-03-08 14:41:26] -_- : ????????
[2017-03-08 14:41:31] Actualiteit : nah I'm rather tall tbh, superioir dutch genes yknow
[2017-03-08 14:41:39] Dempips : oh yeh true aye
[2017-03-08 14:41:42] Dempips : eurotrash
[2017-03-08 14:41:49] -_- : ???? bulls are out
[2017-03-08 14:41:56] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 575 @ 1197.25
[2017-03-08 14:41:57] Farzad2 : :whale::whale::whale::whale::whale:
[2017-03-08 14:42:21] -_- : ??? bears are out
[2017-03-08 14:42:29] Dempips : whos confident about SEC approval?
[2017-03-08 14:42:34] -_- : not this guy
[2017-03-08 14:42:42] Actualiteit : Dempips: probably
[2017-03-08 14:42:44] Apocalyptic : Dempips: take a look at the market
[2017-03-08 14:42:46] Farzad2 : :fire::fire::fire::fire::fire:
[2017-03-08 14:43:13] Apocalyptic : doesn't seem like there's a crowd
[2017-03-08 14:43:14] laisee : SEC is selling. what does that say?
[2017-03-08 14:43:15] -_- : we're sinking
[2017-03-08 14:43:16] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 1000 @ 1196.19
[2017-03-08 14:43:31] Dempips : what you mean SEC is selling?
[2017-03-08 14:43:32] Apocalyptic : -_-: and rapid is dancing
[2017-03-08 14:43:59] Farzad2 : Apocalyptic: its a long way till rapid dancing :D
[2017-03-08 14:44:07] laisee : its well known that SEC trades market ahead of decisions.
[2017-03-08 14:44:16] Farzad2 : He needs something like 800 to dance
[2017-03-08 14:44:23] Apocalyptic : laisee: ssshh
[2017-03-08 14:44:28] .. : he will dance at 550
[2017-03-08 14:44:36] laisee : ... well known among trues whales
[2017-03-08 14:44:41] daigo : SEC is not selling... makes no sense.. they are just a drop in the ocean full of fishes with no idea about the whales
[2017-03-08 14:44:47] Farzad2 : :whale::whale::whale::whale::whale:
[2017-03-08 14:45:07] laisee : SEC == WHALE
[2017-03-08 14:45:27] laisee : and rapidtrades is a lawyer for the SEC. it all adds up nicely.
[2017-03-08 14:45:30] daigo : I thin PBOC === WHALE
[2017-03-08 14:45:47] Apocalyptic : laisee: lol
[2017-03-08 14:45:52] .. : > going down, **THIS** _is_ `looking bad`
[2017-03-08 14:46:00] -_- : i'm buying the dip
[2017-03-08 14:46:03] -_- : i aint no pussy
[2017-03-08 14:46:12] Apocalyptic : bruh we droppin or wha
[2017-03-08 14:46:19] laisee : Apocalyptic: simplest solution is the answer, even if its batshit crazy
[2017-03-08 14:46:27] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 1400 @ 1191.97
[2017-03-08 14:46:31] Apocalyptic : laisee: totally agree
[2017-03-08 14:46:31] Farzad2 : -_-: u were selling 50x a few mins ago ! lol
[2017-03-08 14:46:49] vgck : We broke the bottom, to 1160 we go
[2017-03-08 14:46:56] Farzad2 : we need a 300K REKT now
[2017-03-08 14:47:09] Apocalyptic : Farzad2: unleash some fake news
[2017-03-08 14:47:12] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 15000 @ 1187.84
[2017-03-08 14:47:12] KyllingLolsson : omggggg
[2017-03-08 14:47:14] elmorte : Y'all need Jesus
[2017-03-08 14:47:26] .. : 1185, 1160, 1130, 1070.. levels to watch
[2017-03-08 14:47:38] daigo : 1300 too
[2017-03-08 14:47:41] zy : god bless
[2017-03-08 14:47:49] laisee : and 880, ofc
[2017-03-08 14:48:01] elmorte : particularly 880
[2017-03-08 14:48:03] Apocalyptic : the usual weekend tanking will be a nice addition
[2017-03-08 14:48:15] amaru : web bots 888
[2017-03-08 14:48:16] Farzad2 : /wall
[2017-03-08 14:48:22] trollbot : ``` ±$30 Bid|Ask liq : (17 mins) $7.0m (-8.74%) | $3.7m (82.88%) ```
[2017-03-08 14:48:53] elmorte : Farzad2: bid is the move downards?
[2017-03-08 14:49:03] elmorte : downwards even
[2017-03-08 14:49:18] Farzad2 : elmorte: Bids are the resistance to downward
[2017-03-08 14:49:39] amaru : theres some support on finex
[2017-03-08 14:49:41] Farzad2 : $7m resistance to reach -$30
[2017-03-08 14:49:41] elmorte : Ah k. Strong support, bitcoin moon!
[2017-03-08 14:49:53] Farzad2 : Sorry, I meant support
[2017-03-08 14:49:56] elmorte : Is that how it works?
[2017-03-08 14:50:04] amaru : Farzad2: are those bfx quotes?
[2017-03-08 14:50:20] Farzad2 : amaru: no combined 4 exhcnages including bfx
[2017-03-08 14:50:21] laisee : SEC == SELLING. FBI == BUYING. Battle of .gov's
[2017-03-08 14:50:27] amaru : Farzad2: ahh cool
[2017-03-08 14:50:42] KyllingLolsson : /price
[2017-03-08 14:50:47] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1189.99 (-1.00%) Bitfinex : 1190.60 (-0.75%) The Woodchipper : 1188.74 (-0.92%) itBit : 1190.60 (-0.89%) Kraken : 1181.20 (-1.32%) GDAX : 1189.21 (-0.37%) SLQ : 18 mins```
[2017-03-08 14:51:02] vgck : laisee: That's... not how this works...
[2017-03-08 14:51:23] mike23aa : do you know exact time of Sec decision?
[2017-03-08 14:51:25] laisee : vgck: u don't know how wall st really works, bro
[2017-03-08 14:51:27] daigo : CIA=forced SEC to approve
[2017-03-08 14:51:41] vgck : laisee: FBI IS NOT WALL STREET WTF
[2017-03-08 14:51:49] daigo : mike23aa: they decided years ago
[2017-03-08 14:52:09] .. : mike23aa: IMO market will move way before documents are published on site, but obviously that does get tricky, cannot blindly trust the market
[2017-03-08 14:52:11] laisee : vgck: GS is FBI broker
[2017-03-08 14:52:35] BTChamp : hi all
[2017-03-08 14:52:41] rapidtrades : ..: some would say it already has :)
[2017-03-08 14:52:46] .. : hehe
[2017-03-08 14:52:52] daigo : if someone has that kind of intel, they already moved weeks ago (if not more)
[2017-03-08 14:53:03] laisee : CFTX is pissed at missing the action. Expect some whining from them on ETF ...
[2017-03-08 14:53:08] laisee : ^CFTC
[2017-03-08 14:53:37] Dynamix : Are u gugs short ? ;)
[2017-03-08 14:53:49] Actualiteit : Dynamix: perfect
[2017-03-08 14:53:50] vgck : Dynamix: Hell no, I ain't stupid
[2017-03-08 14:54:13] .. : almost 2 meters
[2017-03-08 14:54:19] .. : so not that short
[2017-03-08 14:54:23] Actualiteit : same
[2017-03-08 14:54:28] Desertzz : ba
[2017-03-08 14:54:29] Desertzz : price
[2017-03-08 14:54:31] mike23aa : markets really pricing 45% probability? looks overvalued only to me?
[2017-03-08 14:54:39] .. : lange kut nederlanders ook altijd
[2017-03-08 14:54:52] .. : (:
[2017-03-08 14:54:54] Actualiteit : yepyep
[2017-03-08 14:55:21] -_- : 61 BTC betting on the decision
[2017-03-08 14:55:29] .. : mike23aa: I meant just the BTC market
[2017-03-08 14:55:30] daigo : mike23aa: it needs 0.05 to move that market
[2017-03-08 14:55:39] daigo : you cannot take it as "market"
[2017-03-08 14:55:39] .. : that COIN market is interesting, but not really relevant :x
[2017-03-08 14:55:57] .. : def good move of bitmex though, made news few times
[2017-03-08 14:56:11] rapidtrades : its relevant to my bank account
[2017-03-08 14:57:21] Desertzz : joke
[2017-03-08 14:57:31] Ahhere : /joke
[2017-03-08 14:57:33] trollbot : ``` My wife suggested i get a penis enlarger So I did, she's 21 and her name is Krystal```
[2017-03-08 14:57:33] laisee : COIN is an awesomely slow binary option.
[2017-03-08 14:57:49] laisee : /lame
[2017-03-08 14:58:02] mike23aa : maybe Sec employees betting on Bitmex COIN?
[2017-03-08 14:58:17] daigo : I don't think so: to easy to be spotted
[2017-03-08 14:58:24] daigo : too small
[2017-03-08 14:58:42] laisee : mike23aa: @rapidtrades is SEC Legal Dept.
[2017-03-08 14:58:49] daigo : BTW someone did buy 5 BTC paying up to 70 some days ago
[2017-03-08 15:00:24] Ahhere : Anyone intimidated by the buy wall on finex?
[2017-03-08 15:00:34] -_- : no
[2017-03-08 15:01:17] Ovan : Walls can come and go at moments notice...nothing to rely on
[2017-03-08 15:02:13] rapidtrades : lol idits over at bitcoinmarkets want to ban oracleseven cos he's making fun of the bullZ
[2017-03-08 15:02:27] rapidtrades : only took $100 move to make them QQ
[2017-03-08 15:02:42] daigo : Mike23aa: why you think is overvalued?
[2017-03-08 15:02:45] .. : lol, well to be fair that guy posts waaaaay too much
[2017-03-08 15:02:53] .. : being bear is okay, but posting 100 messages a day is silly
[2017-03-08 15:04:29] rapidtrades : 100 awesome messages per day
[2017-03-08 15:04:36] Actualiteit : 101*
[2017-03-08 15:05:13] Tetsuo : rapidtrades: I heard that the "Azure Window" in Malta got smashed? Was that you?
[2017-03-08 15:06:16] vgck : ..: He's annoying, obnoxious, and treats the dailies like his personal blog.
[2017-03-08 15:06:29] vgck : I wouldn't be suprised if rapid = oracleseven
[2017-03-08 15:06:36] rapidtrades : Tetsuo: yes
[2017-03-08 15:06:42] .. : haha I actually thought about that :X
[2017-03-08 15:09:56] rapidtrades : dam it really collapsed
[2017-03-08 15:10:14] rapidtrades : that's a shame, i loved that place, plaanned to visit soon
[2017-03-08 15:11:19] Ahhere : I saw oracleseven mention IQ and I was like that is totally rapidtrades
[2017-03-08 15:11:55] laisee : does ora7 have an obsession with ppl's mothers?
[2017-03-08 15:12:01] rapidtrades : he's just an overachiever like myself :)
[2017-03-08 15:12:58] Ahhere : Finex wall has flipped to sell
[2017-03-08 15:14:48] arbitrage101 : buy da dip
[2017-03-08 15:14:54] arbitrage101 : still work
[2017-03-08 15:15:02] Tetsuo : how was dipshittin in the last days? everything went well?
[2017-03-08 15:15:12] arbitrage101 : Tetsuo: yes
[2017-03-08 15:15:23] arbitrage101 : had a nice dinner just now with the profit
[2017-03-08 15:15:27] Ashott : Hey I'm new to all this can anyone give me a basic explanation of what to do with my btc to increase them using bitmex ?
[2017-03-08 15:16:04] Tetsuo : Ashottuse cross, and somewhere between 70-90x leverage, Switch your Position every 20 minutes--->profit
[2017-03-08 15:16:18] laisee : withdraw them using "withdraw" link
[2017-03-08 15:16:53] laisee : the only function @ bitmex that will allow u not to lose ur BTC.
[2017-03-08 15:16:53] -_- : all right guys
[2017-03-08 15:16:55] -_- : okc spot tanking
[2017-03-08 15:17:17] -_- : china is at $1134
[2017-03-08 15:17:26] cryptokeeper : off no volume
[2017-03-08 15:17:26] -_- : lets dump and catch up to them
[2017-03-08 15:17:42] Tetsuo : rapidtrades: did you notice that they made changes to the funding?
[2017-03-08 15:17:55] Tetsuo : https://blog.bitmex.com/site_announcement/important-changes-to-bitcoin-usd-swap-funding/
[2017-03-08 15:18:28] -_- : i hope that encourages more people to use the new quarterly
[2017-03-08 15:18:35] -_- : next week
[2017-03-08 15:19:06] hmmmYea : Tetsuo: holy f
[2017-03-08 15:19:07] -_- : no need to get assraped by insane fees
[2017-03-08 15:19:17] hmmmYea : Tetsuo: ty for that link
[2017-03-08 15:19:25] daigo : Ashott: if you think the SEC will approve the ETF, buy/long on the COIN (bitcoin ETF) and you can double (or lose everything) in a matter of hours. If you think the SEC will say NO, just go short on the same contract
[2017-03-08 15:19:59] hmmmYea : daigo: can you ELI5 me what a bet is?
[2017-03-08 15:20:52] Tetsuo : just before bull market scammed bears with in the last weeks , now that the bear market starts they switch,NOT GREAT!
[2017-03-08 15:21:00] alfaCharlie : /sentiment
[2017-03-08 15:21:04] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 60.53 / 39.47 Daily : 50.39 / 49.61 Weekly : 54.61 / 45.39 Monthly : 50.68 / 49.32```
[2017-03-08 15:21:16] -_- : bitfinex low
[2017-03-08 15:21:28] -_- : 1186
[2017-03-08 15:21:32] Doom : we're going to 50$ 1 btc
[2017-03-08 15:21:39] -_- : $26 from new low
[2017-03-08 15:21:42] Tetsuo : -_-: Price is too damn high for a collapsing crptocurrnecy
[2017-03-08 15:22:00] -_- : bitcoin unlimited tanking the price
[2017-03-08 15:22:05] -_- : ETF will just be icing on the cake
[2017-03-08 15:22:05] Ugly_Old_Goat : Good morning ladies
[2017-03-08 15:22:08] Tetsuo : -_-: +1
[2017-03-08 15:22:15] -_- : good i need some words of wisdom from Ugly_Old_Goat
[2017-03-08 15:22:20] Ashott : ok thanks im thinking no on etf from what I've researched. Im only 17 but have btc from few years ago my friend gave me . but I almost literally have mo clue what im doing yet just trying to learn as much as possible and increase what i have . Ive been resding your comments and trying to grasp what's going om but i have a lot to learn haha
[2017-03-08 15:22:28] daigo : hmmmYea: a bet is a gentlemen agreement among two guys when both think they are right and they measure their balls buy putting money (or actions like BJ) at stake.. then they verify who is right, and the other one will pay (or suck)
[2017-03-08 15:22:50] Tetsuo : daigo: u should better use BTC-E or another spotmarket
[2017-03-08 15:22:51] .. : thanks for your life story, now just do a coinflip and click red or green button to play, gl
[2017-03-08 15:22:57] Tetsuo : not for diago
[2017-03-08 15:23:02] Tetsuo : ashott
[2017-03-08 15:23:02] Ashott : Ok
[2017-03-08 15:23:09] daigo : Ashott: don't throw your BTC away then,
[2017-03-08 15:23:12] hmmmYea : daigo: oh thanks, now i get it
[2017-03-08 15:23:21] Ashott : No I'm not just a little
[2017-03-08 15:24:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 100 @ 1194.31
[2017-03-08 15:24:03] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 3333 @ 1194.72
[2017-03-08 15:24:15] -_- : rekt futures longs
[2017-03-08 15:24:31] arbitrage101 : last dip before friday etf
[2017-03-08 15:24:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 500 @ 1192.99
[2017-03-08 15:24:37] arbitrage101 : make a wise choice
[2017-03-08 15:24:47] arbitrage101 : get rich or die trying
[2017-03-08 15:24:49] .. : > big sells finex, **THIS** _is_ `looking bad`
[2017-03-08 15:24:49] vgck : RIP my long
[2017-03-08 15:24:58] -_- : i'm sure that 250k long that got rekt right before this started dumping is mad
[2017-03-08 15:24:59] bingbongfly : ..: this is looking good!
[2017-03-08 15:25:00] hmmmYea : oh no, we're down 10% from ATHs in an asset that has no rational value. oh the horror
[2017-03-08 15:25:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 1000 @ 1185.64
[2017-03-08 15:25:04] .. : :D
[2017-03-08 15:25:06] vgck : ..: Nah, it's fine. Everything is fine.
[2017-03-08 15:25:09] vgck : Relax
[2017-03-08 15:25:09] Ahhere : Making money short makes me sad
[2017-03-08 15:25:10] arbitrage101 : oh noew
[2017-03-08 15:25:15] arbitrage101 : noesss
[2017-03-08 15:25:34] Doom : in 3 days were going to 300$
[2017-03-08 15:25:42] laisee : Ahhere: donate winnings to charity. like one of the rekts
[2017-03-08 15:25:44] arbitrage101 : you mean 3000?
[2017-03-08 15:25:47] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 8000 @ 1183.79