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[2017-03-07 22:59:33] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 81.24 / 18.76 Daily : 54.86 / 45.15 Weekly : 53.58 / 46.42 Monthly : 50.30 / 49.71```
[2017-03-07 22:59:45] -_- : buy and pray
[2017-03-07 22:59:54] amaru : smokim87: i feel ya.. depends where you're living too and the quality of living expenses etc ..
[2017-03-07 23:00:09] -_- : seems buyers went away
[2017-03-07 23:00:38] smokim87 : amaru: yup :) from Canada so you got an idea how everything here is over priced
[2017-03-07 23:01:08] amaru : smokim87: if you were living in venezuela i bet youd be all night shouting "moooon!" lol
[2017-03-07 23:01:09] smokim87 : amaru: upside is my earnings trading here are USD which is a nice 30% extra to CAD $$
[2017-03-07 23:01:18] smokim87 : amaru: hahaha
[2017-03-07 23:02:10] amaru : smokim87: haha yeah i hear canada is expensive
[2017-03-07 23:02:35] DorianWhack-A-Moto : Ok own up. Who made this comment to the SEC? https://www.sec.gov/comments/sr-batsbzx-2016-30/batsbzx201630-136360.htm
[2017-03-07 23:03:00] rejndjer : so 1230 seems like solid resistance level for now
[2017-03-07 23:03:08] Actualiteit : Chad
[2017-03-07 23:03:13] smokim87 : amaru: ya too expensive, over priced
[2017-03-07 23:03:15] amaru : lmaooo
[2017-03-07 23:03:21] amaru : DorianWhack-A-Moto:
[2017-03-07 23:03:22] smokim87 : rejndjer: you mean decent support
[2017-03-07 23:03:36] rejndjer : yeah
[2017-03-07 23:03:38] rejndjer : im noob xD
[2017-03-07 23:03:40] n00b : when the price jumps so high above mark like it is now what does that really mean?
[2017-03-07 23:03:43] DorianWhack-A-Moto : SEC loves handsome men. I think ETF will get approved
[2017-03-07 23:03:44] donsteep : seems like bitfinex singlehandedly held 1230 up
[2017-03-07 23:04:31] smokim87 : that 500k contract...
[2017-03-07 23:04:45] rejndjer : i just realized eth is not gonna go up, because people are afraid of btc backlash, its so obvious
[2017-03-07 23:05:11] rejndjer : someone going yolo
[2017-03-07 23:05:22] Tetsuo : Looks bad for the current Bitpay business model, if they can´t get their confirmations in time.
[2017-03-07 23:05:27] aguia7 : 100000 recent trades XBTUSD whooooowwwwuuu :o
[2017-03-07 23:05:35] Tetsuo : https://medium.com/@spair/the-bitcoin-fee-market-4df1857d12b7#.1hitjtexm
[2017-03-07 23:05:44] smokim87 : aguia7: there was a 560k sell contract
[2017-03-07 23:05:56] -_- : Why XRP pumping
[2017-03-07 23:05:57] aguia7 : 1235.00 100000 8:03:56 PM B
[2017-03-07 23:06:14] smokim87 : aguia7: lets see how gets rekt...that seller or those buyers that ate it up
[2017-03-07 23:06:46] smokim87 : aguia7: *who
[2017-03-07 23:06:47] aguia7 : smokim87: :O
[2017-03-07 23:07:11] rejndjer : -_-: people on poloniex dunno what to pump next
[2017-03-07 23:08:30] Tetsuo : Has DOGE already pumped?
[2017-03-07 23:08:35] aguia7 : 100 thousand, should be the small hand still, lol XD
[2017-03-07 23:08:50] Tetsuo : DOGE looks like LTC. SAD!
[2017-03-07 23:09:17] Tetsuo : almost the same graph on 1w
[2017-03-07 23:09:24] amirmass : stamp mooning
[2017-03-07 23:09:30] rejndjer : aguia7: u need only 1k usd to buy 100k rite?
[2017-03-07 23:09:36] amirmass : 1250$$$$$$
[2017-03-07 23:09:41] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 17000 @ 1237.70
[2017-03-07 23:10:16] KyllingLolsson : Just take a look at the 4 hr. Super bearish
[2017-03-07 23:10:21] smokim87 : amirmass: hmm trap?
[2017-03-07 23:10:26] aguia7 : rejndjer: But whoever has a lot risks little. Leverage x100, is suicide.
[2017-03-07 23:10:40] rejndjer : aguia7: agree
[2017-03-07 23:10:42] amirmass : nop
[2017-03-07 23:10:44] amirmass : real moon
[2017-03-07 23:11:15] rejndjer : it would be really fun if we could go up and down like this whole time
[2017-03-07 23:11:31] Tetsuo : KyllingLolsson: looks like a gallows to me
[2017-03-07 23:11:36] Tetsuo : Hang em higher!
[2017-03-07 23:11:44] amirmass : 1241$$
[2017-03-07 23:11:52] amirmass : wtf are u waiting for
[2017-03-07 23:11:53] amirmass : buy
[2017-03-07 23:12:04] GT : /rekt
[2017-03-07 23:12:04] trollbot : ``` 11 hours, 34 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 70000 @ 1208.29 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:```
[2017-03-07 23:12:04] trollbot : ``` 11 hours, 36 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 60000 @ 1224.79 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:```
[2017-03-07 23:12:04] trollbot : ``` 13 hours, 40 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 80333 @ 1243.57 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:```
[2017-03-07 23:12:04] trollbot : ``` 11 hours, 34 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 246999 @ 1208.93 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire:```
[2017-03-07 23:12:23] Tetsuo : trapdoor for this gallows would be around 1000$
[2017-03-07 23:13:00] amirmass : 1241$$$
[2017-03-07 23:13:02] amirmass : MOOON COMING
[2017-03-07 23:13:07] amirmass : rip shorts
[2017-03-07 23:13:37] superbeario : GG
[2017-03-07 23:14:21] amirmass : FOMO BUY coming
[2017-03-07 23:14:23] amirmass : buyyyyyyyyy
[2017-03-07 23:14:35] rejndjer : lol
[2017-03-07 23:14:45] ross : i see a $5 rise then dump
[2017-03-07 23:15:04] Tetsuo : https://picload.org/image/rloiprlw/g1.jpg
[2017-03-07 23:15:18] ross : Tetsuo: i see that too
[2017-03-07 23:15:42] ross : except with rapidtrades face
[2017-03-07 23:15:45] donsteep : Tetsuo: he doesn't fall though
[2017-03-07 23:15:46] Tetsuo : so it is confimred , thx
[2017-03-07 23:16:02] donsteep : sooo.. dead maybe, but hanging tight!
[2017-03-07 23:16:13] donsteep : I'm not sure what to make of it
[2017-03-07 23:16:13] Tetsuo : donsteep: u better wish that some lone ranger will come around and save him
[2017-03-07 23:17:46] smokim87 : http://www.coindesk.com/sec-decide-bitcoin-etf-fate-friday/
[2017-03-07 23:21:14] javierstone : so basically its approved
[2017-03-07 23:21:53] Tetsuo : lol
[2017-03-07 23:22:04] zy : javierstone: buyyyyyyyyyyy
[2017-03-07 23:22:04] Tetsuo : u just read whatever fits you
[2017-03-07 23:22:12] javierstone : sagctly
[2017-03-07 23:23:15] KingTuna : Buy sub $1k
[2017-03-07 23:23:28] KingTuna : People think that it will never go sub $1k again are wrong
[2017-03-07 23:23:36] smokim87 : javierstone: not approved or disapproved...50:50 pretty much lol
[2017-03-07 23:23:39] zanza : inside information leaked from SEC
[2017-03-07 23:23:41] KingTuna : Still well above mining cost
[2017-03-07 23:23:44] zanza : ETF will not be approved
[2017-03-07 23:24:16] spghost : inside information :zanza is satoshi
[2017-03-07 23:24:21] javierstone : so SEC called all the ETF app stakeholders in in feb to tell them they were all rejected at once
[2017-03-07 23:24:28] javierstone : and they refused to withdrawl
[2017-03-07 23:24:33] smokim87 : i personally think they'll delay the decision again with some stupid excuse
[2017-03-07 23:24:52] Tetsuo : javierstone: +1
[2017-03-07 23:24:58] Tetsuo : stubborn winkleviss
[2017-03-07 23:25:03] Tetsuo : admit loss u foods
[2017-03-07 23:25:22] javierstone : sounds likely
[2017-03-07 23:25:25] smokim87 : cause a big drop...btc tanks every time it moons, there hasn't been a hack to cause the drop...pboc out of fud to cause a drop...
[2017-03-07 23:25:57] smokim87 : It's US turn to cause the drop lol
[2017-03-07 23:26:05] Tetsuo : Hardfork soon <3
[2017-03-07 23:26:48] Sultan Pepper : smokim87: is it *needed?*
[2017-03-07 23:26:51] smokim87 : dumps hard then slowly crawls back up and breaks highs...once it's up high and everything is going great..boom something happens to break it back down
[2017-03-07 23:27:22] smokim87 : Sultan Pepper: the ETF you mean?
[2017-03-07 23:27:44] Sultan Pepper : smokim87: no, a big drop after a pump
[2017-03-07 23:28:10] Sultan Pepper : smokim87: what if it's just.... ok?
[2017-03-07 23:29:15] smokim87 : Sultan Pepper: off course but big drops are way too violent...
[2017-03-07 23:29:53] Sultan Pepper : The daily says we're making a good correction, but maybe we don't nees an *over*correction like usual
[2017-03-07 23:31:19] Tetsuo : We need total annihilation! Hardfork now!
[2017-03-07 23:31:32] Sultan Pepper : Though, the weekly wants a 950-1000 correction
[2017-03-07 23:33:40] Tetsuo : nice spread @xbch17
[2017-03-07 23:33:46] rejndjer : dude this isnt dow, ofc we need correction
[2017-03-07 23:35:19] zy : damn 1230 is holding strong
[2017-03-07 23:36:48] KyllingLolsson : Nope not stronk
[2017-03-07 23:37:02] -_- : anyone riding XRP
[2017-03-07 23:39:15] spice : looks like its going to 1215
[2017-03-07 23:39:36] spice : buy orders ready
[2017-03-07 23:44:01] KyllingLolsson : /price
[2017-03-07 23:44:07] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1233.37 (0.00%) Bitfinex : 1232.30 (0.14%) The Woodchipper : 1226.98 (-0.26%) itBit : 1230.43 (-0.18%) Kraken : 1228.65 (0.26%) GDAX : 1232.54 (-0.15%) SLQ : 50 mins```
[2017-03-07 23:44:08] Dynamix : spice: Mybe evenlow
[2017-03-07 23:44:37] Dynamix : Wtf, m PCmight bfuced
[2017-03-07 23:47:06] KyllingLolsson : /sentiment
[2017-03-07 23:47:08] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 69.18 / 30.82 Daily : 55.05 / 44.95 Weekly : 53.54 / 46.46 Monthly : 50.32 / 49.68```
[2017-03-07 23:47:31] KyllingLolsson : Wow that monthly sentiment
[2017-03-07 23:47:55] KyllingLolsson : The people voted? Or is it the bots
[2017-03-07 23:48:10] zanza : is there a new MM? some big orders
[2017-03-07 23:48:17] zanza : 250/400k
[2017-03-07 23:48:40] Dynamix : Mega rkdssoo
[2017-03-07 23:48:50] Dynamix : o rektosaur
[2017-03-07 23:50:27] spice : /rekt
[2017-03-07 23:50:27] trollbot : ``` 12 hours, 13 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 246999 @ 1208.93 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire:```
[2017-03-07 23:50:27] trollbot : ``` 12 hours, 13 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 70000 @ 1208.29 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:```
[2017-03-07 23:50:27] trollbot : ``` 14 hours, 18 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 80333 @ 1243.57 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:```
[2017-03-07 23:51:17] Dynamix : ffs I hate this stupid PC
[2017-03-07 23:51:19] Dynamix : works so damn slow lol
[2017-03-07 23:51:38] Dynamix : my CPU or GPU or hard drive must be fucked
[2017-03-07 23:57:59] javierstone : this is either the best or worst time to buy
[2017-03-07 23:58:23] cryptobull : Lets stop us
[2017-03-07 23:59:03] KyllingLolsson : just any minute now
[2017-03-08 00:00:16] javierstone : more or less bleeding
[2017-03-08 00:00:31] KyllingLolsson : Can somone trigger this
[2017-03-08 00:00:57] donsteep : yeah, anybody with a spare 100btc on finex, give it a nudge?
[2017-03-08 00:01:24] BitNut : someone fill me at 1230
[2017-03-08 00:01:38] KyllingLolsson : yeah me gon fill u
[2017-03-08 00:02:19] KyllingLolsson : /sentiment
[2017-03-08 00:02:22] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 62.01 / 37.99 Daily : 55.04 / 44.96 Weekly : 53.53 / 46.47 Monthly : 50.32 / 49.68```
[2017-03-08 00:08:59] Sutan : /prices
[2017-03-08 00:09:10] Ahhere : /price
[2017-03-08 00:09:13] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1233.01 (-0.03%) Bitfinex : 1230.10 (-0.18%) The Woodchipper : 1227.49 (0.04%) itBit : 1230.30 (-0.01%) Kraken : 1229.90 (0.10%) GDAX : 1236.10 (0.29%) SLQ : 25 mins```
[2017-03-08 00:10:23] javierstone : lets get it popping
[2017-03-08 00:10:35] finnagetdooped : callm b4 da storm
[2017-03-08 00:10:45] javierstone : up or down?
[2017-03-08 00:11:59] javierstone : upsa
[2017-03-08 00:12:01] -_- : wish i knew
[2017-03-08 00:12:15] BitNut : This thing will test 1,200
[2017-03-08 00:12:18] -_- : bullwhale might show up and buy a few thousand BTC
[2017-03-08 00:12:28] -_- : or someone might need to make child support payments and sell a few thousand
[2017-03-08 00:13:27] donsteep : kids.. expensive little things
[2017-03-08 00:13:59] javierstone : -_-: literally just read that joke on reddit
[2017-03-08 00:14:00] -_- : XMR still too high here
[2017-03-08 00:15:28] javierstone : upsa upsa
[2017-03-08 00:15:29] -_- : how are people still hanging on
[2017-03-08 00:15:33] -_- : dont they ever take profit
[2017-03-08 00:15:43] javierstone : they sell drugs
[2017-03-08 00:16:11] hmmmYea : /joke
[2017-03-08 00:16:13] trollbot : ``` I farted in my wallet. Now I have gas money.```
[2017-03-08 00:17:18] gustavo7 : good one
[2017-03-08 00:17:21] gustavo7 : /joke
[2017-03-08 00:17:22] trollbot : ``` I found a wallet on the sidewalk today. I was gonna keep it, rather than return it, but then I thought: well, if I lost a hundred and fifty dollars, how would I feel? And I realized I would want to be taught a lesson. (Emo Philips)```
[2017-03-08 00:18:07] gustavo7 : day of the wallet /joke s or what?
[2017-03-08 00:18:18] gustavo7 : /joke
[2017-03-08 00:18:19] trollbot : ``` I went to an Oasis gig with my sister in 1995. When they came out onto the stage I shouted, "Go Oasis!" Then my sister left.```
[2017-03-08 00:18:48] -_- : lol
[2017-03-08 00:18:57] -_- : that joke is kinda funny
[2017-03-08 00:19:10] gustavo7 : oh it's so lame
[2017-03-08 00:20:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `XMR7D`: sell 10 @ 0.011211
[2017-03-08 00:21:46] vgck : /joke
[2017-03-08 00:21:48] trollbot : ``` I bought my friend an elephant for his room. He said, "Thanks!" I said, "Don't mention it."```
[2017-03-08 00:21:59] vgck : These are just awful
[2017-03-08 00:22:12] smokim87 : is that even a joke?
[2017-03-08 00:22:28] vgck : It's from reddit so ofc its just a shitty pun
[2017-03-08 00:22:44] smokim87 : /joke
[2017-03-08 00:22:45] trollbot : ``` Last night I dreamed that I was weightless! I was like, 0mg```
[2017-03-08 00:23:00] smokim87 : hmmm
[2017-03-08 00:23:37] smokim87 : /joke
[2017-03-08 00:23:38] trollbot : ``` If you're depressed, try drinking a pint of water before going to bed. It'll give you a reason to get up in the morning.```
[2017-03-08 00:24:48] ross : or at 4am
[2017-03-08 00:25:07] ross : and then youll kill yourself because bitcoin will have dumped
[2017-03-08 00:25:19] smokim87 : lol
[2017-03-08 00:25:58] smokim87 : /joke
[2017-03-08 00:25:58] vgck : Is that from /r/jokes or shittylifeprotips?
[2017-03-08 00:25:59] trollbot : ``` George Clooney, Leonardo Dicaprio and Matthew Mcconaughey got together to make a movie...... George Clooney said "I'll direct" Dicaprio said "I'll produce" and Matthew McConaughey said "I'll write, I'll write, I'll write"```
[2017-03-08 00:28:47] vgck : Are we gonna break 1240 this time?
[2017-03-08 00:31:12] odieoh : this time as opposed to . .. like a couple of hours ago?
[2017-03-08 00:32:32] vgck : Last time we did not stay above, it's still resistance
[2017-03-08 00:32:44] vgck : We could bounce off again this time and head towards 1200 again
[2017-03-08 00:34:25] Rapid_Puppet : and we could shoot to 1300. . . and we could all die in a north korean blitz of missiles. . and we could all get AIDS from our computers. .
[2017-03-08 00:34:41] Rapid_Puppet : lets fret about all the "coulds"
[2017-03-08 00:34:52] vgck : What else is there to do?
[2017-03-08 00:35:17] Rapid_Puppet : stop freting and position yourself rationally
[2017-03-08 00:35:24] Rapid_Puppet : *fretting
[2017-03-08 00:36:05] mendax090 : rapidlosses
[2017-03-08 00:41:25] vgck : Rapid_Puppet: What's the rational position here? We just keep bouncing between 30 and 40,
[2017-03-08 00:41:39] stanfordesign : The Ethereum will rise again?
[2017-03-08 00:42:36] stanfordesign : Cause I saw the news from BitMex it mentioned the ETH will rise unimaginable
[2017-03-08 00:42:59] mendax090 : ETH will replace BTC
[2017-03-08 00:43:04] stanfordesign : is that true?
[2017-03-08 00:43:14] stanfordesign : Oh great
[2017-03-08 00:43:20] rejndjer : it is, but not today
[2017-03-08 00:43:48] stanfordesign : When it will happen in your prediction? @rejndjer
[2017-03-08 00:44:46] rejndjer : stanfordesign: hmmm it depends more on how btc develops, eth has shiny days ahead if there will be no more fiascos like DAO, but it's really hard to tell
[2017-03-08 00:44:50] rejndjer : not before 2018 to be sure
[2017-03-08 00:46:14] stanfordesign : So for now we have to sell our ETH or keep it? @rejndjer
[2017-03-08 00:49:36] viptrader : Any manager here??....
[2017-03-08 00:49:54] Ahhere : h&s on 15 minute?
[2017-03-08 00:54:26] vgck : Ahhere: No, not even close
[2017-03-08 00:54:56] avirap : Hello, I took some interest in BitMex in the past but was offput by the Automatic Loss Socilaizing Function.
[2017-03-08 00:55:08] avirap : But I understand now this mechanism was slightly changed
[2017-03-08 00:55:33] Ahhere : vgck: if you squint?
[2017-03-08 00:56:09] avirap : Can anyone comment what are the chances of me suffering a socialized loss if I am short a BTC future while putting up hald the notional as equity in the account.
[2017-03-08 00:58:08] javierstone : when does new futures contract come out?
[2017-03-08 00:58:25] sleger : check bitmex email
[2017-03-08 00:59:28] rejndjer : stanfordesign: i dont know man, atm im not in eth, but i think eth/btc might hold in case of etf deny, while eth/usd will go down a leg
[2017-03-08 01:01:44] datboiyuan : rejndjer: you got that backwards dawg
[2017-03-08 01:03:11] Freewizard : /sentiment
[2017-03-08 01:03:14] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 57.83 / 42.17 Daily : 55.10 / 44.90 Weekly : 53.49 / 46.51 Monthly : 50.35 / 49.65```
[2017-03-08 01:04:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `DASH7D`: sell 5 @ 0.036443
[2017-03-08 01:06:53] rapidtrades : SEC=lazy trash
[2017-03-08 01:13:02] javierstone : lol why
[2017-03-08 01:13:58] sleger : https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/bitcoin-etf-headed-default-approval/
[2017-03-08 01:14:38] sleger : "Instead, it appears far more likely the commissioners will simply allow the deadline to pass. That is probably because Piwowar, the acting chairman of the SEC, appears in favor of approving the ETF."
[2017-03-08 01:15:58] sleger : Piwowar : "“By holding a diversified portfolio of assets, investors reap the benefits of diversification. That is, the risk of the portfolio as a whole is lower than the risk of any individual asset… In fact, if the correlations are low enough, the overall portfolio risk can even decrease. As such, excluding certain investors from diversification options deprives them of important risk mitigation techniques.”
[2017-03-08 01:17:14] rapidtrades : my god ur an idiot
[2017-03-08 01:17:31] rapidtrades : there will be much gloating from my end upon etf rejection
[2017-03-08 01:17:53] vgck : sleger: Fake News! SEC has never let a deadline pass on something like this
[2017-03-08 01:17:56] w0x : yoooo
[2017-03-08 01:18:05] rejndjer : that article isnt even fake news, its just bad :(
[2017-03-08 01:18:06] rapidtrades : vgck: exactly
[2017-03-08 01:18:11] sleger : vgck: you read it on reddit ?
[2017-03-08 01:18:20] rapidtrades : sleger: yes me too
[2017-03-08 01:18:25] rapidtrades : so u have 3 confirmations
[2017-03-08 01:18:33] sleger : is it better than mickey magazine ?
[2017-03-08 01:18:36] rapidtrades : the guy who posted it and 2 of us
[2017-03-08 01:18:43] vgck : sleger: Yes
[2017-03-08 01:18:46] rapidtrades : suck on that consensus bish
[2017-03-08 01:19:12] sleger : if you saw it on internet it must be true
[2017-03-08 01:19:34] vgck : sleger: CryptoCoinNews isn't on the internet??
[2017-03-08 01:19:49] rapidtrades : if I can't trust anonymous strangers on the internet to provide important facts, who can I trust?
[2017-03-08 01:19:58] sleger : vgck: at least its not a forum
[2017-03-08 01:20:09] vgck : Hold up, I'ma print something out that supports my position then it's not on the interwebs anymore!
[2017-03-08 01:20:15] rapidtrades : cmon u have to admit that article is reaching quite far
[2017-03-08 01:20:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: sell 1978 @ 0.015230
[2017-03-08 01:20:53] rapidtrades : using his previous statements that have nothing to do with bitcoin and trying to fit the article writer's facts about bitcoin
[2017-03-08 01:20:56] rapidtrades : its a joke
[2017-03-08 01:22:36] sleger : like you used to say :
[2017-03-08 01:22:44] rapidtrades : should i withdraw from kraken? its gonna be pretty much useless on ETF anyway
[2017-03-08 01:22:49] rapidtrades : .
[2017-03-08 01:22:49] sleger : they wouldnt wait so close to the deadline to reject it
[2017-03-08 01:22:50] rapidtrades : .
[2017-03-08 01:22:51] rapidtrades : .
[2017-03-08 01:22:56] sleger : it would be done much earlier
[2017-03-08 01:22:59] rapidtrades : sry lag
[2017-03-08 01:23:14] rapidtrades : sleger: same goes for approving tho
[2017-03-08 01:23:19] vgck : sleger: We're probably gonna get an answer this Friday
[2017-03-08 01:23:49] rejndjer : bullfinex
[2017-03-08 01:23:50] sleger : if we are friday morning its quasi approve
[2017-03-08 01:24:09] javierstone : when do news futures come out
[2017-03-08 01:24:28] rapidtrades : trust me, its not approved even if we wait until 5pm on friday
[2017-03-08 01:24:33] rapidtrades : they will reject it last minute
[2017-03-08 01:25:15] rejndjer : is it known how much btc did winkl bros buy for etf?
[2017-03-08 01:25:21] rapidtrades : Piwowar is a lameduck chairman, jsut warming up the seat for TRump's nominee
[2017-03-08 01:25:39] sleger : rapidtrades: trust you ? what's your expertise with ETF / SEC ?
[2017-03-08 01:25:43] rapidtrades : he's not gonna allow a controversial ETF to pass
[2017-03-08 01:25:54] sleger : its only controversial on reddit
[2017-03-08 01:26:09] rapidtrades : no actually its the opposite
[2017-03-08 01:26:28] rapidtrades : outside of this echo-chamber noone thinks bitcoin is ready
[2017-03-08 01:26:42] rejndjer : because it's not
[2017-03-08 01:26:52] rapidtrades : there are major hacks and crashes happening every few months
[2017-03-08 01:27:10] rapidtrades : instability in china, possible HF
[2017-03-08 01:27:21] rapidtrades : this experiment is not yet proven
[2017-03-08 01:27:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: sell 250 @ 0.015140
[2017-03-08 01:27:35] sleger : 20bn market cap ....
[2017-03-08 01:28:13] rapidtrades : and only 70m per day trading volume
[2017-03-08 01:28:33] arbitrage101 : morning, yoyo
[2017-03-08 01:28:38] arbitrage101 : people hording coin
[2017-03-08 01:28:50] arbitrage101 : market cap will only go higher
[2017-03-08 01:29:10] arbitrage101 : 100B looks like a good number to go short
[2017-03-08 01:29:24] rapidtrades : market cap is highly elevated by speculators on leverage....it will fall down a lot
[2017-03-08 01:29:25] arbitrage101 : so around 5000 per coin
[2017-03-08 01:29:39] arbitrage101 : you will be long gone by then, i suspect
[2017-03-08 01:30:19] sleger : did mikehunt get rekt ?
[2017-03-08 01:30:27] arbitrage101 : h17 looks cheap
[2017-03-08 01:30:34] arbitrage101 : good volatility play
[2017-03-08 01:30:36] Tetsuo : he went long was the last i heard from him
[2017-03-08 01:30:38] vgck : sleger: Probably hasn't been here a while
[2017-03-08 01:30:40] rapidtrades : u can't take the market cap figure srsly when daily volume is only 0.35% of it
[2017-03-08 01:31:03] sleger : vgck: he sleeps in the trollbox corner
[2017-03-08 01:31:06] sleger : he's gone
[2017-03-08 01:31:08] arbitrage101 : how do you get your daily volume
[2017-03-08 01:31:16] rapidtrades : a handful of specs are gambling on margin right now and keeping prices artifically high
[2017-03-08 01:31:35] vgck : rapidtrades: I wonder how much of the market cap is invalid because of lost bitcoins? Like the ones sitting in a landfill?
[2017-03-08 01:31:44] arbitrage101 : that is the beauty of crypto coin
[2017-03-08 01:31:44] sleger : rapidtrades: leverage is on futures dummy
[2017-03-08 01:31:50] sleger : there are as many longs as shorts
[2017-03-08 01:32:07] vgck : sleger: I can use leverage on swap too...
[2017-03-08 01:32:13] Apocalyptic : sleger, @rapidtrades you guys got ADL'd this morning ?
[2017-03-08 01:32:21] sleger : Apocalyptic: no, u did ?
[2017-03-08 01:32:32] arbitrage101 : i close my short on last dip
[2017-03-08 01:32:38] sleger : vgck: why dont you go do that then and leave grown ups talk to rapid ?
[2017-03-08 01:32:41] Apocalyptic : nope, but I felt it was pretty close
[2017-03-08 01:32:43] arbitrage101 : going to short more as it goes up
[2017-03-08 01:33:06] rapidtrades : wtf
[2017-03-08 01:33:19] arbitrage101 : what
[2017-03-08 01:33:24] arbitrage101 : you are not the only bear
[2017-03-08 01:33:29] arbitrage101 : moooo
[2017-03-08 01:33:29] vgck : sleger: Bite me
[2017-03-08 01:33:41] arbitrage101 : roooar
[2017-03-08 01:33:44] rapidtrades : don't be rude vdick
[2017-03-08 01:34:09] vgck : rapidtrades: Make me, rapidlosses
[2017-03-08 01:34:39] rapidtrades : https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/5y4ysk/check_out_this_500_buy_wall_on_gdax_right_now/
[2017-03-08 01:34:48] rapidtrades : its obvious ppl are keeeping prices high
[2017-03-08 01:34:57] rapidtrades : its been happening for like 10 days now
[2017-03-08 01:35:08] arbitrage101 : walls are meaningless
[2017-03-08 01:35:21] sleger : you mean since etf approved and DMM are buying inventory ?
[2017-03-08 01:35:28] rapidtrades : today they couldn't let the market fall on news from chynoya, after the told the SEC that chnoya is okay now
[2017-03-08 01:36:10] rapidtrades : sleger: if ur not long, shut it
[2017-03-08 01:36:19] rejndjer : guys what about china exchanges allowing btc withdrawals today, non-factor?
[2017-03-08 01:36:28] rapidtrades : they wont allow
[2017-03-08 01:36:33] rapidtrades : imo
[2017-03-08 01:36:53] arbitrage101 : rejndjer: huge factor
[2017-03-08 01:36:53] rejndjer : well month ago they said they will allow it after 1 month
[2017-03-08 01:36:58] rapidtrades : if they do, its long-term beasrish for western prices cos arbers will close the gap
[2017-03-08 01:37:02] arbitrage101 : china >>>> etf
[2017-03-08 01:37:10] rapidtrades : short-term we may spike higher
[2017-03-08 01:37:24] vgck : rejndjer: They didn't allow withdrawals, they just allowed a certain few exchanges to exist whilst they carefully monitor them
[2017-03-08 01:37:34] rapidtrades : i don't think they'll allow withdrawals
[2017-03-08 01:37:43] arbitrage101 : rmb is expected to stabilize this year
[2017-03-08 01:37:45] rapidtrades : if they do, all chinese exchanges will lose the volume to the west
[2017-03-08 01:38:07] rapidtrades : plus i suspect at least some are insolvent
[2017-03-08 01:38:20] arbitrage101 : rapidtrades: your expectation is wrong
[2017-03-08 01:38:20] vgck : More supply will also bring the price down a bit
[2017-03-08 01:38:26] arbitrage101 : as usual
[2017-03-08 01:38:29] rapidtrades : arbitrage101: we'll see
[2017-03-08 01:38:32] rejndjer : but why did pboc officials these last few days give green lights to those exchanges?
[2017-03-08 01:38:56] vgck : rejndjer: Because the PBoC is merciful
[2017-03-08 01:39:09] micmix : Apocalyptic: I closed my shorts and re-entered to reset adl rating
[2017-03-08 01:39:21] arbitrage101 : bad move
[2017-03-08 01:39:24] micmix : during yesterday's drop
[2017-03-08 01:39:32] arbitrage101 : did some bad move myself also
[2017-03-08 01:39:39] arbitrage101 : the dip price was too attractive
[2017-03-08 01:39:44] arbitrage101 : hard to resist buying
[2017-03-08 01:40:20] micmix : arbitrage101: why do you think it's bad move? I lost $2 spread but have only 4 lights now instead of 5
[2017-03-08 01:40:36] rapidtrades : there's not a single guy here from the old guard that's bullish and long
[2017-03-08 01:40:45] arbitrage101 : micmix: your position is not safe this week with 5 lights
[2017-03-08 01:40:46] rapidtrades : sleger talks smack but says he's hedged
[2017-03-08 01:40:48] Apocalyptic : micmix: that must have involved great timing
[2017-03-08 01:40:50] arbitrage101 : 5 lights i mean
[2017-03-08 01:40:55] arbitrage101 : 4 lights i mean
[2017-03-08 01:41:09] mendax090 : rapidtrades: sleger doesn't know shit
[2017-03-08 01:41:17] micmix : Apocalyptic: I have algo for that
[2017-03-08 01:41:28] Apocalyptic : figures :)
[2017-03-08 01:41:36] rapidtrades : mendax090: idk ive seen him do some great trades
[2017-03-08 01:41:40] arbitrage101 : mendax090: care to enlighten us?
[2017-03-08 01:41:57] arbitrage101 : like to make money following you
[2017-03-08 01:42:02] micmix : arbitrage101: it has 4 light now, was 5
[2017-03-08 01:42:08] arbitrage101 : micmix: oo
[2017-03-08 01:42:16] arbitrage101 : i had 1 light yesterday
[2017-03-08 01:42:18] rapidtrades : micmix: why 4? did u short the top lol
[2017-03-08 01:42:36] mendax090 : If you want to make money short BTC with a stop-loss
[2017-03-08 01:42:40] lockhedge : rapidtrades: i didn't hedge my trading capital (but exchanged some to eur and reduced limits a while ago)
[2017-03-08 01:43:01] rapidtrades : ok so 1 guy is bullish
[2017-03-08 01:43:05] arbitrage101 : lockhedge: not a good time to gamble
[2017-03-08 01:43:15] arbitrage101 : i put some eth in cold wallet
[2017-03-08 01:43:20] arbitrage101 : and zec
[2017-03-08 01:43:55] rapidtrades : is Rado bullish? last time he shorted near top as well
[2017-03-08 01:43:56] micmix : rapidtrades: I had short from $1300+ on H17 and $1250+ on swap, had 5 lights
[2017-03-08 01:44:10] arbitrage101 : micmix: nice short
[2017-03-08 01:44:21] arbitrage101 : going to go long on h17 now? since the premium is so low
[2017-03-08 01:44:26] micmix : now $1260 on futures, $1240 on swap with 4 lights
[2017-03-08 01:44:40] rapidtrades : premium isn't rly low
[2017-03-08 01:44:40] Apocalyptic : arbitrage101: expiry is also nearer
[2017-03-08 01:44:48] rapidtrades : its going to go to 0 soon
[2017-03-08 01:45:00] arbitrage101 : less than 10 dollars going into etf is low in my view
[2017-03-08 01:45:02] micmix : plus some nice realized PNL :smile:
[2017-03-08 01:45:31] rapidtrades : its 15% annualized, about average
[2017-03-08 01:45:44] rejndjer : arbitrage101: since there is bigger odd of etf denial, isnt it more logical that there should be discount on future?
[2017-03-08 01:45:46] arbitrage101 : you are a bad trader, rapid
[2017-03-08 01:45:58] micmix : not one long position survives if etf is approved, all will be adl'ed within $50-$100
[2017-03-08 01:46:21] rapidtrades : that's not true, if it was my shorts would be closed today
[2017-03-08 01:46:26] rapidtrades : ah longs
[2017-03-08 01:46:26] micmix : sleger will adl all longs right away
[2017-03-08 01:46:28] rapidtrades : ur right
[2017-03-08 01:46:45] arbitrage101 : rejndjer: market price it higher
[2017-03-08 01:47:11] rapidtrades : micmix: ur on isolated now?
[2017-03-08 01:47:12] rejndjer : what does adl mean?
[2017-03-08 01:47:49] arbitrage101 : automatic liqudation
[2017-03-08 01:48:09] arbitrage101 : cuz a trader blow up his position
[2017-03-08 01:48:10] micmix : rapidtrades: yes, and my bot will increase leverage immediately on any SEC update
[2017-03-08 01:48:12] sleger : "mendax090: rapidtrades: sleger doesn't know shit" who are you dummy ?
[2017-03-08 01:48:18] rejndjer : arbitrage101: thx
[2017-03-08 01:48:45] rapidtrades : micmix: to what? 50/1 or 100/1?
[2017-03-08 01:48:52] mendax090 : sleger: yo momma
[2017-03-08 01:49:11] micmix : rapidtrades: will calc based on orderbook
[2017-03-08 01:49:14] arbitrage101 : mendax090: rapid likes to bone momma
[2017-03-08 01:49:36] mendax090 : arbitrage101: Yo mamma is so ugly when she tried to join an ugly contest they said, "Sorry, no professionals
[2017-03-08 01:49:42] rapidtrades : micmix: why does orderbook matter? liqs don't get filled on book
[2017-03-08 01:49:54] rullwull : two lights on swap and one on march
[2017-03-08 01:49:56] datboiyuan : what is the benefit for a particular trader if the rest are addled?
[2017-03-08 01:50:11] datboiyuan : wouldn't that put said trader in the top of the queue for adl
[2017-03-08 01:50:22] micmix : rapidtrades: orderbook on H17 affects mark price
[2017-03-08 01:50:25] sleger : BAN this useless thing @mendax090
[2017-03-08 01:50:54] mendax090 : sleger: cry me a river
[2017-03-08 01:51:09] lockhedge : arbitrage101: it would have been gambling if i decided for the SEC decision to hedge my trading capital. can't find a reliable hedging strategy and reserves a lot of "unproductive" capital
[2017-03-08 01:51:18] sleger : micmix: did you set stops ? im only counting on liq
[2017-03-08 01:51:32] micmix : sleger: no, stops are useless
[2017-03-08 01:51:40] sleger : agreed
[2017-03-08 01:51:45] sleger : whats 6$
[2017-03-08 01:51:47] rullwull : stops won't help
[2017-03-08 01:51:56] arbitrage101 : lockhedge: can gamble on some of the new coins with low market cap
[2017-03-08 01:52:01] micmix : sleger: exactly
[2017-03-08 01:53:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `DASH7D`: sell 1 @ 0.036318
[2017-03-08 02:03:21] lockhedge : if there is no decision published, when do you close some of your shorts guys? or wouldn't you gamble against a disapproval on Monday?
[2017-03-08 02:04:58] sleger : the market will close their shorts on thursday night
[2017-03-08 02:07:09] arbitrage101 : doubt i will get liquidated
[2017-03-08 02:07:19] arbitrage101 : liquidation price above 3k
[2017-03-08 02:08:26] Yazz : Hello Trolls. Who's long BTC pending the ETF? Who's short?
[2017-03-08 02:08:43] arbitrage101 : Yazz: rapid is short from 880
[2017-03-08 02:08:54] micmix : lockhedge: disapproval on Monday is highly unlikely. I think the market will rally on Friday if there are no news
[2017-03-08 02:08:56] Yazz : ballsy
[2017-03-08 02:09:51] Yazz : you guys dont interact much. This is like the Polo box on valium.
[2017-03-08 02:09:54] sleger : that had nothing to do with the etf though
[2017-03-08 02:10:00] Yazz : which is not a bad thing
[2017-03-08 02:13:19] rullwull : this trollbox is more on weed than valium @Yazz
[2017-03-08 02:15:16] Yazz : rullwull: fair call... Anyone here in SF or CO? Buses riding around with Marijuana adverts.
[2017-03-08 02:15:19] Yazz : nutso
[2017-03-08 02:17:12] .. : low volume, if there is more vol trollbox becomes more active
[2017-03-08 02:22:15] mendax090 : Smoking some bowls and trading is the way to go
[2017-03-08 02:22:59] Yazz : mendax090: Check out the Pax Era. makes it too easy...
[2017-03-08 02:25:47] brasska : acid is popular in crypto trading as well as weed
[2017-03-08 02:32:05] lockhedge : we should maybe go long on the likely portfolio of this proposed weed ETF then... https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1467831/000114420417009539/v459698_485apos.htm
[2017-03-08 02:34:20] Sultan Pepper : BTC JUST APPROVED POT!!!!
[2017-03-08 02:34:29] aeos : Sultan Pepper: weee
[2017-03-08 02:36:15] jayantna : anyone please send the complete guide of BITMEX... new in trading :)
[2017-03-08 02:36:24] ching ching : choo choo
[2017-03-08 02:45:14] BitMEX_John : jayantna: please start here https://www.bitmex.com/app/tradingOverview
[2017-03-08 02:51:27] jose : BitMEX_John: "I have the feeling they will find a way to delay this even more though. With bitcoin at all-time highs and the SEC having a terrible record for allowing new ETFs to come to market at absolute tops, they will likely push back on this until things cool a bit,"
[2017-03-08 02:51:46] jose : How the contract will be settled if this happens ?
[2017-03-08 02:53:33] Farzad2 : gm boys
[2017-03-08 02:53:44] arbitrage101 : sup farzad
[2017-03-08 02:54:09] Farzad2 : just woke up
[2017-03-08 02:54:17] Farzad2 : 6 AM here ;)
[2017-03-08 02:54:28] arbitrage101 : where you from
[2017-03-08 02:54:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 155 @ 1237.34
[2017-03-08 02:55:02] Farzad2 : Iran
[2017-03-08 02:55:30] BitMEX_John : jose: legally speaking it is our understanding that there is no way for them to delay a decision
[2017-03-08 02:56:11] Farzad2 : /rekt
[2017-03-08 02:56:12] trollbot : ``` 17 hours, 24 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 80333 @ 1243.57 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:```
[2017-03-08 02:56:12] trollbot : ``` 15 hours, 18 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 70000 @ 1208.29 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:```
[2017-03-08 02:56:12] trollbot : ``` 15 hours, 18 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 246999 @ 1208.93 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire:```
[2017-03-08 02:56:12] trollbot : ``` 15 hours, 20 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 60000 @ 1224.79 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:```
[2017-03-08 02:57:45] jose : BitMEX_John: Legally, you are right. But this is not how the world works :) Even if it is really unlikely it can still happen
[2017-03-08 02:57:50] zanza : does /rekt give the top 4 from the past 24 hours ?
[2017-03-08 02:58:03] jose : i asked the question after reading this article http://www.coindesk.com/sec-decide-bitcoin-etf-fate-friday/
[2017-03-08 02:58:07] Farzad2 : zanza: yes
[2017-03-08 02:58:20] zanza : 250k seems like the winner
[2017-03-08 02:59:18] Farzad2 : It is
[2017-03-08 03:00:03] zanza : http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-03-07/sec-said-decide-bitcoin-etf-friday
[2017-03-08 03:00:37] KingTuna : How does one know when they are going to be ADL'ed?
[2017-03-08 03:00:59] zanza : they quote Arthuer in that article :)
[2017-03-08 03:01:06] KingTuna : Like I have a short on since $1275 and say if there is a flash rash now to sub $1k......Will they close on me
[2017-03-08 03:01:11] arbitrage101 : KingTuna: the lights on the top
[2017-03-08 03:01:28] arbitrage101 : 4-5 lights mean you have high chance of getting adl
[2017-03-08 03:02:28] QuinnTrades : wouldnt it close a short if price went up too high, not down too low?
[2017-03-08 03:02:30] KingTuna : arbitrage101: Thanks.. hmm I must be blind, but where exactly are these lights
[2017-03-08 03:02:42] BitMEX_John : jose: we have already moved the settlement date forward to take into account that the announcement may not be made until Monday
[2017-03-08 03:02:51] aeos : arbitrage101: Can you please explain in an easy way what auto deleverage means?
[2017-03-08 03:02:59] arbitrage101 : KingTuna: orderbook window
[2017-03-08 03:03:40] KingTuna : arbitrage101: ahh still not there for me lol
[2017-03-08 03:03:46] arbitrage101 : aeos: high leverage provided here means trader have high chance of getting blow up
[2017-03-08 03:04:01] BitMEX_John : KingTuna: please read this reference guide article https://www.bitmex.com/app/autoDeleveraging
[2017-03-08 03:04:04] arbitrage101 : when their position blown up, it needs to be absorbed by someone
[2017-03-08 03:04:08] rullwull : You will receive an email when get adled
[2017-03-08 03:04:10] arbitrage101 : and that someone might be you
[2017-03-08 03:04:19] BitMEX_John : KingTuna: it shows you what it looks like, it is half way down the left hand panel
[2017-03-08 03:04:21] Farzad2 : aeos: if u trade by high leverage and u are in profit, part of your position may be closed automatically reducing your ptofit.
[2017-03-08 03:04:39] BitMEX_John : aeos: https://www.bitmex.com/app/autoDeleveraging
[2017-03-08 03:04:53] aeos : OK thanks all
[2017-03-08 03:05:36] rullwull : not part, all your position maybe adled if there are big rekts
[2017-03-08 03:06:24] Farzad2 : rullwull: yes. part or all
[2017-03-08 03:07:03] aeos : So to avoid ADL on a winning position need to set low Leverage?
[2017-03-08 03:07:24] KingTuna : ah looks like im in the top percentile :(
[2017-03-08 03:07:29] KingTuna : This ADL thing is a bitch
[2017-03-08 03:07:30] jose : BitMEX_John: i was more thinking something like postponed for 1 year or more, haha
[2017-03-08 03:07:40] Farzad2 : aeos: yes, use low leverage. but it is never guaranteed that you wont get ADLed
[2017-03-08 03:07:57] Farzad2 : it reduces the chance of being ADLed
[2017-03-08 03:08:02] KingTuna : I'm leveraged at x6.8 margin now
[2017-03-08 03:08:17] BitMEX_John : jose: in that case we would make an announcement and an email will be sent out to everyone who has a position on that contract
[2017-03-08 03:09:13] rullwull : i got adled even with 1.5x, leverage won't help if the book is empty
[2017-03-08 03:09:18] arbitrage101 : KingTuna: you have experience trading at high leverage?
[2017-03-08 03:09:37] KingTuna : arbitrage101: define high leverage? lol
[2017-03-08 03:10:01] arbitrage101 : higher than 3x your colleteral
[2017-03-08 03:10:13] Farzad2 : KingTuna: 100x :D