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[2017-03-07 08:40:53] rapidtrades : after which they MAY allow some to live
[2017-03-07 08:41:12] MoneySeeMoneyDo : no it doesn't.
[2017-03-07 08:41:15] MoneySeeMoneyDo : i disagree with this reading.
[2017-03-07 08:41:32] rapidtrades : bra its in english
[2017-03-07 08:41:34] rangle : read the next one... they want to learn more about bitcoin and cooperate
[2017-03-07 08:41:39] rapidtrades : its exactly what it says
[2017-03-07 08:41:46] MoneySeeMoneyDo : they wil keep the ones that were contacted directly alive
[2017-03-07 08:41:51] MoneySeeMoneyDo : fly by nights will not move forward
[2017-03-07 08:41:59] j8 : "the regulators shall adopt a forgiving attitude" yep sounds pretty bad
[2017-03-07 08:42:02] MoneySeeMoneyDo : the fact that antpool started mining blocks again 24 hours ago
[2017-03-07 08:42:04] rapidtrades : wow u ppl are gullible
[2017-03-07 08:42:11] MoneySeeMoneyDo : means that they know PBOC is not shutting this down
[2017-03-07 08:42:30] Bitcoingirl : PBoC positive, bitcoin down
[2017-03-07 08:42:36] MoneySeeMoneyDo : Don't listen to rapidtrades, i live in china and spend a lot of time with the community here, and pboc is not going to fuck this up
[2017-03-07 08:42:57] MoneySeeMoneyDo : rapidtrades: get off the anti-china they're all communists out to get you kick.
[2017-03-07 08:42:58] MoneySeeMoneyDo : siersouly.
[2017-03-07 08:43:16] rapidtrades : eat my shorts longs
[2017-03-07 08:43:36] rangle : k
[2017-03-07 08:43:54] rapidtrades : u will see the significance of all the events that happens this year soon
[2017-03-07 08:44:46] MoneySeeMoneyDo : lol
[2017-03-07 08:44:57] MoneySeeMoneyDo : okay, spoken like a true consipiracy theorist
[2017-03-07 08:45:04] MoneySeeMoneyDo : vague future is coming claims don't mean much.
[2017-03-07 08:45:16] MoneySeeMoneyDo : and you need to spend time in places you forecast in order to be accurate
[2017-03-07 08:45:20] MoneySeeMoneyDo : i don't see the short here.
[2017-03-07 08:45:23] MoneySeeMoneyDo : imo
[2017-03-07 08:45:30] rapidtrades : u can't argue with ppl when they're making money
[2017-03-07 08:45:38] MoneySeeMoneyDo : i'm not arguing with anyone
[2017-03-07 08:45:40] MoneySeeMoneyDo : i'm saying you're wrong
[2017-03-07 08:45:43] MoneySeeMoneyDo : that's not an argument
[2017-03-07 08:45:44] rapidtrades : they'll all come around once they go broke buying the dips
[2017-03-07 08:45:47] MoneySeeMoneyDo : that's a distribution of a fact.
[2017-03-07 08:45:53] rapidtrades : w/e
[2017-03-07 08:45:54] MoneySeeMoneyDo : i'm out. see ya!
[2017-03-07 08:46:24] rangle : thanks for the comments Money
[2017-03-07 08:46:59] rapidtrades : 'thanks for confirming my bias Money'
[2017-03-07 08:47:01] kurkudu : rapidtrades: bro, only getting richier buying the dips
[2017-03-07 08:47:28] laisee : some people can start a fight locked in a room by themselves ... Special skill required ?
[2017-03-07 08:49:01] longbydefault : all buying the dip does right now is increasing your exposure... no one is getting rich playing 5-10 dollar moves
[2017-03-07 08:50:08] kurkudu : longbydefault: i'm. actually moves are $30-50
[2017-03-07 08:50:17] Apocalyptic : swap 6$ above mark
[2017-03-07 08:50:27] longbydefault : oh ok... i was talking about swaps...
[2017-03-07 08:50:39] rapidtrades : Apocalyptic: hush let em fomo
[2017-03-07 08:51:08] Apocalyptic : rapidtrades: maybe we even get a .1% funding next period
[2017-03-07 08:51:17] kurkudu : swap is good for funding, march is perfect for buying the dips
[2017-03-07 08:51:25] rapidtrades : man that 'clamp' is the dumbest thing
[2017-03-07 08:53:47] zfan : 5 hours till #vault7 guys, buy some volatility
[2017-03-07 08:56:22] Kobe : zfan: How is that relevant to btc?
[2017-03-07 09:00:33] vgck : BTFD
[2017-03-07 09:00:37] deep : sorry what is vault7? and how it is relevant to BTC?
[2017-03-07 09:01:11] Kobe : It's a new leak from WikiLeaks.
[2017-03-07 09:01:13] rejndjer : my unrealised PNL shows how much i will earn if i market close my position NOW?
[2017-03-07 09:01:51] .. : pretty sure no, because its based on Mark Price and not orderbook
[2017-03-07 09:02:21] longbydefault : rejndjer: if you set a limit close to the current mark price... that's how much you will be getting
[2017-03-07 09:02:39] rejndjer : longbydefault: thx
[2017-03-07 09:03:54] smokim87 : hey guys just wondering I opened a short on btc, my realised PNL is currently 0.0325 btc but hovering over it changes to -1.7367 BTC...how is that possible with the funding rate 0.01%?
[2017-03-07 09:04:54] JasonLi : becasue mark price changement？
[2017-03-07 09:05:31] .. : means u lost 1.7 today?
[2017-03-07 09:05:44] BitMEX_John : smokim87: you can see your trade history here https://www.bitmex.com/app/tradeHistory
[2017-03-07 09:05:45] Vicariously : one is how much you owe for commision or funding rates, and when you hover it shows you how much you've lost during the current trade period.
[2017-03-07 09:05:57] BitMEX_John : smokim87: you may be confusing your unrealised and realised profit
[2017-03-07 09:06:03] BitMEX_John : profit/loss*
[2017-03-07 09:07:51] smokim87 : unrealizsed PNL is in profit, the realised PNL which is the fees I pay and interest on the loan taken to cover my trade. Not sure if it's a bug but i had earlier today a 100k contract and fees were about 0.25 every 12 hours or so
[2017-03-07 09:08:53] smokim87 : taking screenshots one sec
[2017-03-07 09:09:04] DorianWhack-A-Moto : 0.25 every 12 hours? hot damn
[2017-03-07 09:09:12] BitMEX_Wally : smokim87: The realised PNL on your current position is 0.0325 XBT which is from commission and funding. When you hover-over it you see realised PNL from the previous position you closed today
[2017-03-07 09:09:26] kurkudu : unrealized is what u get if u close your position by mark price @smokim87
[2017-03-07 09:11:13] smokim87 : BitMEX_Wally: I see, so next 2 hours when fees come in it wont actually be that 1.7 btc that i see?
[2017-03-07 09:11:46] smokim87 : kurkudu: yup
[2017-03-07 09:11:49] BitMEX_Wally : Yes you can ignore the hover-over value. It is a legacy feature from when we used to have Rebalancing
[2017-03-07 09:12:13] BitMEX_Wally : The -1.7 Bitcoin loss was from your previous position and it has already come out of your wallet
[2017-03-07 09:12:21] smokim87 : BitMEX_Wally: oh ok
[2017-03-07 09:12:55] smokim87 : BitMEX_Wally: Thanks for the help :)
[2017-03-07 09:18:49] monsterer : BitMEX_Wally: any idea why XBTUSD is trading at an offset from the mark price?
[2017-03-07 09:19:52] monsterer : It's $6 above , but matching the movements
[2017-03-07 09:20:56] BitMEX_Wally : monsterer: People are bullish, and the current funding rate of 0.01% is not enough to entice people to short
[2017-03-07 09:21:20] BitMEX_Wally : Predicted Funding Rate is 0.0564% In 10 hours which should hel
[2017-03-07 09:21:23] BitMEX_Wally : *help
[2017-03-07 09:22:06] zy : is there a dump?
[2017-03-07 09:22:16] Ovan : slow one
[2017-03-07 09:22:24] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 110019 @ 1253.59 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:
[2017-03-07 09:22:24] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 7730 @ 1255.31
[2017-03-07 09:22:35] vgck : Ouch
[2017-03-07 09:22:48] arbitrage101 : buy da dip
[2017-03-07 09:23:19] smokim87 : these sell offs are fierce
[2017-03-07 09:24:20] -_- : march barely went down compared to last time
[2017-03-07 09:24:58] -_- : 9,182,952 Contracts on march. no wonder. someone buying the dip hard
[2017-03-07 09:25:15] -_- : lets see if it pays off
[2017-03-07 09:25:19] vgck : How far down we going now?
[2017-03-07 09:25:35] DorianWhack-A-Moto : OKC Q fell off a cliff
[2017-03-07 09:25:40] arbitrage101 : have some bid in the 1240 range
[2017-03-07 09:25:45] arbitrage101 : in case it hit
[2017-03-07 09:25:51] ross : Well anymore dumps and I'm out of the game
[2017-03-07 09:26:00] smokim87 : I'd watch the 1240, a break and we move down or bounce
[2017-03-07 09:28:39] Ahhere : okguys this is not funny i lost my play monies
[2017-03-07 09:28:53] Ahhere : i need to speak to the ceo of bitcoin asap
[2017-03-07 09:29:27] DorianWhack-A-Moto : Ahhere: you mean Mr Craig Wright? the really real Satoshi?
[2017-03-07 09:29:49] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBCH17`: sell 1 @ 8366.2 :punch: :whale:
[2017-03-07 09:29:53] Ahhere : yes I want answers from that guy.
[2017-03-07 09:29:57] DorianWhack-A-Moto : i'll get him on the phone ASAP!
[2017-03-07 09:29:58] .. : OK Q going for 1200
[2017-03-07 09:30:00] -_- : 8000 cny almost broken
[2017-03-07 09:30:03] Apocalyptic : rapidtrades: we dumpin bra
[2017-03-07 09:30:05] vgck : Ahhere: Sushi Natomako, CEO of Bitcoin here. How can I be of assistance?
[2017-03-07 09:30:18] y1uy : dumpy dump
[2017-03-07 09:30:20] DorianWhack-A-Moto : Oh man got a short from 1294 and a long ready to meet it. Dis gon be gooood
[2017-03-07 09:30:22] .. : this is LOOKING BAD
[2017-03-07 09:30:35] Ahhere : vgck: hi I was told to buy the dip as this is the curency of the future what is yoru answer to your followers
[2017-03-07 09:30:35] y1uy : the biggest bitcoin miner just switched to bitcoin unlimited
[2017-03-07 09:30:40] y1uy : thats why we're going down
[2017-03-07 09:30:48] vgck : Ahhere: ..: BUY THE DIP
[2017-03-07 09:30:49] .. : yep damn BU
[2017-03-07 09:30:50] y1uy : biggest pool better say
[2017-03-07 09:30:52] Apocalyptic : y1uy: wonderfull
[2017-03-07 09:31:12] Actualiteit : /rekt
[2017-03-07 09:31:12] trollbot : ``` 1 hour, 4 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 105000 @ 1276.25 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:```
[2017-03-07 09:31:12] trollbot : ``` 8 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 110019 @ 1253.59 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:```
[2017-03-07 09:31:12] trollbot : ``` 4 hours, 34 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 113400 @ 1280.58 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:```
[2017-03-07 09:31:14] vgck : y1uy: Who cares?
[2017-03-07 09:31:18] DorianWhack-A-Moto : Houston! Houston! We have a problem. The moon is running away!
[2017-03-07 09:31:19] y1uy : okcoin new lows
[2017-03-07 09:31:20] Ahhere : the only thing that could cheer me up would be rapidtrades swimming in sea of bitcoins
[2017-03-07 09:31:41] vgck : So how far down we going this time?
[2017-03-07 09:31:43] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 131994 @ 1245.21 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:
[2017-03-07 09:31:54] DorianWhack-A-Moto : Holy Sheet. Look at OKC Futures
[2017-03-07 09:31:58] Zen Trader : epic rekt indeed
[2017-03-07 09:31:59] ross : This is going lower
[2017-03-07 09:32:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 17014 @ 1244.89
[2017-03-07 09:32:01] REKT : Next stop - goblin town!
[2017-03-07 09:32:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 46742 @ 1244.89
[2017-03-07 09:32:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 1300 @ 1244.25
[2017-03-07 09:32:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 12 @ 1242.38
[2017-03-07 09:32:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 885 @ 1244.22
[2017-03-07 09:32:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 80333 @ 1243.57 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2017-03-07 09:32:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 775 @ 1242.72
[2017-03-07 09:32:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 5000 @ 1243.93
[2017-03-07 09:32:13] smokim87 : jesus
[2017-03-07 09:32:17] Noobz : nice
[2017-03-07 09:32:28] DorianWhack-A-Moto : rebounding!
[2017-03-07 09:32:30] y1uy : we're going down
[2017-03-07 09:32:33] smokim87 : 1240 broke...this is moving too fast
[2017-03-07 09:32:34] Apocalyptic : rapid is heaven
[2017-03-07 09:32:38] Apocalyptic : *in
[2017-03-07 09:32:39] y1uy : DOWWWN WE GO
[2017-03-07 09:32:44] Ahhere : this gonna be a bad day
[2017-03-07 09:32:51] Zen Trader : it will be such a nice buyback when it goes up
[2017-03-07 09:32:51] vgck : Just hit 1240, bounce or crash coming?
[2017-03-07 09:33:02] DorianWhack-A-Moto : OKC is bouncing back up
[2017-03-07 09:33:07] DorianWhack-A-Moto : not sure what we're doing
[2017-03-07 09:33:30] vgck : BUY THE DIP
[2017-03-07 09:33:52] Tetsuo : Hello dipshits
[2017-03-07 09:33:57] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBCH17`: sell 2556 @ 8301.6
[2017-03-07 09:34:20] DorianWhack-A-Moto : OKC jumped $40 back pu
[2017-03-07 09:34:23] DorianWhack-A-Moto : up
[2017-03-07 09:34:26] arbitrage101 : sec etf leaked
[2017-03-07 09:34:29] arbitrage101 : it is rejected
[2017-03-07 09:34:32] DorianWhack-A-Moto : back to the moon
[2017-03-07 09:34:42] arbitrage101 : bloomberg can quote me
[2017-03-07 09:34:51] arbitrage101 : call the reporter
[2017-03-07 09:34:54] Ahhere : vgck: sushi nakamoto! what have you done!?
[2017-03-07 09:35:22] Farzad2 : /rekt
[2017-03-07 09:35:23] trollbot : ``` 3 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 80333 @ 1243.57 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:```
[2017-03-07 09:35:23] trollbot : ``` 1 hour, 8 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 105000 @ 1276.25 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:```
[2017-03-07 09:35:23] trollbot : ``` 3 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 131994 @ 1245.21 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:```
[2017-03-07 09:35:23] trollbot : ``` 12 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 110019 @ 1253.59 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:```
[2017-03-07 09:35:24] Apocalyptic : OKC spot
[2017-03-07 09:35:24] vgck : Ahhere: I derped a bit, going back up now. We good, relax.
[2017-03-07 09:35:35] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 3333 @ 1246.02
[2017-03-07 09:35:52] DorianWhack-A-Moto : dips bought up
[2017-03-07 09:35:52] jayesh : all these liquidation caused by the Index Price & that fucking Okcoin
[2017-03-07 09:35:56] aethlios : οκψοιν σποτ -100 θσδ
[2017-03-07 09:36:03] aethlios : okcoin spot -100 usd
[2017-03-07 09:36:06] smokim87 : okcoin broke 8000
[2017-03-07 09:36:06] Apocalyptic : this is gonna be epic
[2017-03-07 09:36:21] Ahhere : this is where I watch the price go back up and wait for my deposit to land then buy the top
[2017-03-07 09:36:34] Boontjie : btfd
[2017-03-07 09:36:36] Ahhere : maybe its a short day ...
[2017-03-07 09:37:19] c.l : careful dip buy, panic sell follows.
[2017-03-07 09:37:24] kurkudu : nice!
[2017-03-07 09:37:30] Kalman : early withdrawal processing today ?
[2017-03-07 09:37:48] vgck : Who else bought the dip like a pro?
[2017-03-07 09:37:50] -_- : march is gonna be a blood bath if this dumps more. almost has more contracts than swap
[2017-03-07 09:38:06] rapidtrades : hows it going long bras?
[2017-03-07 09:38:09] guacamole : march always has about as many contracts as swap
[2017-03-07 09:38:24] rapidtrades : things don't look good
[2017-03-07 09:38:34] kurkudu : im buying
[2017-03-07 09:38:35] vgck : rapidtrades: Pretty good actually, buying the dip still making money
[2017-03-07 09:38:39] rapidtrades : to quote a popular chatter '' IT LOOKS PRETTY BAD MAN''
[2017-03-07 09:38:45] ross : rapidtrades: they don't, although I'm still long
[2017-03-07 09:38:51] Ahhere : rapidtrades: please tell me u are rich now that would be a nice happy ending to this sorry tale
[2017-03-07 09:39:04] arbitrage101 : buy da dip
[2017-03-07 09:39:11] arbitrage101 : last chance to get rich before etf
[2017-03-07 09:39:14] aethlios : insiders are selling, but maybe pboc has news also.
[2017-03-07 09:39:23] arbitrage101 : path to greatness begin here
[2017-03-07 09:39:26] micmix : just a little shake up before SEC approval
[2017-03-07 09:39:28] rapidtrades : Ahhere: too early for that bra :)
[2017-03-07 09:39:30] arbitrage101 : buy da dip
[2017-03-07 09:39:34] micmix : get your coins cheap
[2017-03-07 09:39:35] rapidtrades : micmix: lol
[2017-03-07 09:39:42] arbitrage101 : micmix: lol
[2017-03-07 09:39:50] Apocalyptic : rapidtrades: sure
[2017-03-07 09:39:55] thomaskikansha : sideway/dips towards weekend
[2017-03-07 09:40:06] Ahhere : finex couldnt break 1240... maybe it is buy time...
[2017-03-07 09:40:11] rapidtrades : coin down to 42
[2017-03-07 09:40:16] -_- : guacamole: swap was at 10,000,000+ for days while march was at 7-8 million
[2017-03-07 09:40:22] rapidtrades : huge ask on COIN
[2017-03-07 09:40:22] ross : Lol @bullstamp
[2017-03-07 09:40:26] rapidtrades : insiders??????
[2017-03-07 09:40:37] rapidtrades : ETF REJECTED?
[2017-03-07 09:40:51] micmix : fur shure
[2017-03-07 09:40:51] DorianWhack-A-Moto : That was beautiful. Brings a tear to my eye.
[2017-03-07 09:40:52] rapidtrades : just asking qs man...
[2017-03-07 09:40:57] vgck : Ahhere: Bitmex and Stamp both hit 1233
[2017-03-07 09:40:58] Actualiteit : rapidtrades: why dont you suck some less cock my man
[2017-03-07 09:41:05] Ahhere : /rekt
[2017-03-07 09:41:05] trollbot : ``` 9 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 131994 @ 1245.21 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:```
[2017-03-07 09:41:05] trollbot : ``` 18 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 110019 @ 1253.59 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:```
[2017-03-07 09:41:05] trollbot : ``` 1 hour, 14 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 105000 @ 1276.25 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:```
[2017-03-07 09:42:10] rapidtrades : dam igot all ready to get out, just shaved..and boom raining
[2017-03-07 09:42:10] micmix : rapidtrades: now I'm a bit more happy that I hedged during the weekend
[2017-03-07 09:42:16] rapidtrades : like reall yhard wtf god
[2017-03-07 09:42:31] arbitrage101 : micmix: it is only 30-40 dollars drop
[2017-03-07 09:42:32] rapidtrades : u owe me god
[2017-03-07 09:42:37] rapidtrades : so pls smite that ETF
[2017-03-07 09:42:40] Tetsuo : Hardfork>ETF
[2017-03-07 09:42:43] Dynamix : Could we break 1240 ? ;)
[2017-03-07 09:42:46] arbitrage101 : less than 3% drop
[2017-03-07 09:42:58] rapidtrades : Tetsuo: IT LOOKS PRETTY BAD
[2017-03-07 09:43:05] Dynamix : Bfx might hehe
[2017-03-07 09:43:06] Tetsuo : :-(
[2017-03-07 09:43:10] -_- : okc spot almost new low
[2017-03-07 09:43:10] micmix : it's nothing but still nice when you hedge at good price
[2017-03-07 09:43:13] rapidtrades : PBOC, hard fork, ETF
[2017-03-07 09:43:17] KingTuna : Anyone still negging my decision to go short from $1275? :P
[2017-03-07 09:43:30] rapidtrades : we could hit 5XX
[2017-03-07 09:43:31] arbitrage101 : yes hard folk
[2017-03-07 09:43:36] arbitrage101 : one for bull and one for bear
[2017-03-07 09:43:44] arbitrage101 : bear can join the china fork
[2017-03-07 09:43:44] rapidtrades : +1
[2017-03-07 09:43:51] arbitrage101 : and bull can join the etf fork
[2017-03-07 09:43:56] rapidtrades : no doubt bitmex will list both lol
[2017-03-07 09:44:07] ching ching : Choo Choo, all aboard the money train
[2017-03-07 09:44:20] spendingmomsrent : I hope so, my mom's gunna kill me otherwise
[2017-03-07 09:44:32] aeos : ching ching: up or down train lol
[2017-03-07 09:44:32] rapidtrades : we just broke 1250
[2017-03-07 09:44:38] rapidtrades : lets see if this one sticks
[2017-03-07 09:44:42] rapidtrades : last one didn't
[2017-03-07 09:44:57] Ahhere : china banned hardforks confirmed guise
[2017-03-07 09:45:07] DorianWhack-A-Moto : ETF rejected
[2017-03-07 09:45:10] aethlios : we just broke 1249 and ready to break 1248.
[2017-03-07 09:45:16] DorianWhack-A-Moto : written on toilet wall at truck stop
[2017-03-07 09:45:17] arbitrage101 : we will have bitcoin classic and bitcoin
[2017-03-07 09:45:19] arbitrage101 : like eth
[2017-03-07 09:45:23] ross : CONFIRMED: hacked coins have been sold
[2017-03-07 09:45:30] ching ching : i missed the train
[2017-03-07 09:45:36] jose : ross: link or FUD
[2017-03-07 09:45:43] arbitrage101 : ross: source?
[2017-03-07 09:45:57] Ahhere : CONFIRMED: trollbox is best source of trading news.
[2017-03-07 09:46:10] ross : CONFIRMED: I am not lying
[2017-03-07 09:46:15] DorianWhack-A-Moto : CONFIRMED: this message is confirmed
[2017-03-07 09:46:54] aeos : ross: source
[2017-03-07 09:47:07] DorianWhack-A-Moto : i shorted the top and bought the bottom like i knew what i was doing. how do i do it again?
[2017-03-07 09:47:15] Apocalyptic : SEC will love this volatility
[2017-03-07 09:47:28] ross : aeos: me
[2017-03-07 09:47:34] aeos : ross: lol kk
[2017-03-07 09:47:35] Ahhere : DorianWhack-A-Moto: pls return my bitcoins :,(
[2017-03-07 09:47:40] aethlios : swap optimistic.
[2017-03-07 09:47:42] donsteep : DorianWhack-A-Moto: me too. I don't know why so many do otherwise
[2017-03-07 09:47:59] DorianWhack-A-Moto : Ahhere: Ok i'll short here 100x times. you'll get em back
[2017-03-07 09:48:12] Ahhere : a true friend. @DorianWhack-A-Moto
[2017-03-07 09:48:38] DorianWhack-A-Moto : Ahhere: if it makes you feel better my COIN is -11.83%
[2017-03-07 09:49:07] DorianWhack-A-Moto : betting on approval like a potato
[2017-03-07 09:49:37] ross : CONFIRMED: etf may or may not be confirmed
[2017-03-07 09:49:55] Ahhere : DorianWhack-A-Moto: ah you must be subscribed to the potato trading youtube channel some awful advice on there
[2017-03-07 09:50:04] Ahhere : I follow them religiously
[2017-03-07 09:52:07] ross : Looks like my news worked
[2017-03-07 09:52:10] ross : people buying
[2017-03-07 09:52:38] donsteep : ross: well you said many things were confirmed so I take that as a buy signal
[2017-03-07 09:53:05] ross : donsteep: glad you're following
[2017-03-07 09:53:12] donsteep : confirmation is goooood
[2017-03-07 09:53:14] ross : i also bought
[2017-03-07 09:53:33] donsteep : you confirm an approval or rejection I don't care. confirm = buy
[2017-03-07 09:54:09] Ahhere : donsteep: lol
[2017-03-07 09:54:35] Ahhere : CONFIRMED: SHA256 CRACKED @donsteep
[2017-03-07 09:54:57] donsteep : Ahhere: omg I'mma buy some more
[2017-03-07 09:55:59] ross : CONFIRMED: the more you buy the more you win
[2017-03-07 09:56:40] Ahhere : CONFIRMED: every rektosaurus makes you stronger.
[2017-03-07 09:57:24] Derreck : /price
[2017-03-07 09:57:27] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1261.00 (-0.96%) Bitfinex : 1257.80 (-1.13%) The Woodchipper : 1244.01 (-1.69%) itBit : 1261.64 (-1.16%) Kraken : 1256.01 (-1.18%) GDAX : 1264.10 (-1.25%) SLQ : 3 hours, 7 mins```
[2017-03-07 09:57:34] Derreck : /sentiment
[2017-03-07 09:57:38] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 53.37 / 46.63 Daily : 56.70 / 43.30 Weekly : 53.74 / 46.26 Monthly : 50.17 / 49.83```
[2017-03-07 09:58:31] Ahhere : if in doubt check btc-e price and add $20
[2017-03-07 09:59:24] Tetsuo : /rekt
[2017-03-07 09:59:24] trollbot : ``` 27 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 80333 @ 1243.57 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:```
[2017-03-07 09:59:24] trollbot : ``` 1 hour, 32 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 105000 @ 1276.25 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:```
[2017-03-07 09:59:25] trollbot : ``` 37 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 110019 @ 1253.59 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:```
[2017-03-07 09:59:25] trollbot : ``` 27 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 131994 @ 1245.21 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:```
[2017-03-07 09:59:38] Tetsuo : Feels good man
[2017-03-07 09:59:58] Derreck : /wall
[2017-03-07 10:00:02] trollbot : ``` ±$30 Bid|Ask liq : (4 hours, 51 mins) $6.4m (11.40%) | $6.8m (-19.16%) ```
[2017-03-07 10:00:33] Ahhere : Tetsuo: u got rekt?
[2017-03-07 10:01:51] -_- : main guy on march left
[2017-03-07 10:01:56] -_- : order book thin
[2017-03-07 10:02:48] aethlios : if etf rejected all bids will be removed, march margin calls because of merk price at bid ask will be epic.
[2017-03-07 10:03:38] ross : aethlios: An empty order book.. what would happen
[2017-03-07 10:04:04] aethlios : MMs will remove bids
[2017-03-07 10:04:16] j8 : the basis component of the mark price doesn't adjust when there's not enough liquidity
[2017-03-07 10:04:27] l3f : aethlios: In that doomsday senario
[2017-03-07 10:04:31] l3f : everyone's fucked
[2017-03-07 10:05:06] aethlios : swap is much safer, better hold long swap if you want to have open position in etf decision.
[2017-03-07 10:05:27] aethlios : swap tracks the index.
[2017-03-07 10:05:47] Ahhere : aethlios: true you get what you pay for
[2017-03-07 10:06:05] Ahhere : but no sexy swings in swap for degenerates
[2017-03-07 10:06:24] rullwull : nothing tracks the index during high volatility @aethlios
[2017-03-07 10:06:52] guvi : can somebody here explain me- I opened 20x short position at 1266 of 1xbt. currently it shows me Mark price of 1250 and unrelised PNL of 0.0119 (23%). why is the pofit only 0.0119?? I've done 20x leverage
[2017-03-07 10:07:09] rullwull : better use lower leverage and sleep well
[2017-03-07 10:07:22] aethlios : rullwull: mark price which creates liwuidations is the index in swap, last price can be 100 below index but you don't get liquidated.
[2017-03-07 10:08:06] l3f : aethlios: mark price goes retarded too
[2017-03-07 10:08:06] rullwull : aethlios: this is true
[2017-03-07 10:08:14] l3f : it still swings like a maniac
[2017-03-07 10:08:30] guvi : aethlios: can someone please help?
[2017-03-07 10:08:33] aethlios : rullwull: but in quarterly this doesn't happen.
[2017-03-07 10:08:43] l3f : aethlios: it's amazing how hard the futes have dumped
[2017-03-07 10:08:50] l3f : okc futes are -ve premium now
[2017-03-07 10:10:31] aethlios : guvi: P&L is in the position value, which is 1 btc, so you have 1 btc position, not 20 btc, 20x leverage means system keeps 1/20th as margin
[2017-03-07 10:10:41] BitNut : guvi: if you sold at the current price of 1252, your profit would be double what you read via the Mark Price
[2017-03-07 10:11:10] BitNut : The Mark Price is an averaged out price over a period of time
[2017-03-07 10:11:34] aethlios : guvi: 23% profit is on the margin (not on position value)
[2017-03-07 10:12:11] guvi : BitNut: @aethlios so if I sold now, then the profit is 0.0119 times 20?
[2017-03-07 10:12:16] rullwull : be ready for the fast rebounce
[2017-03-07 10:14:16] BitNut : guvi: 1266-1252 = 14/1266=0.01105 x 20
[2017-03-07 10:14:28] aethlios : guvi: your profit is normal 1-1250/1266= 1.26% * 1btc= 0.0126 btc
[2017-03-07 10:14:48] BitNut : That is rough figures though because your holding in BTC changes as the price moves
[2017-03-07 10:15:04] BitNut : Best to do the calculations on the $ you outlay
[2017-03-07 10:15:05] aethlios : guvi: you are short 1 btc, not 20
[2017-03-07 10:15:24] guvi : so whats the point of the leverage?
[2017-03-07 10:17:11] reyno : Ive just been rekt on 131,000 with a 2 etc margin
[2017-03-07 10:17:17] reyno : like 5.6 btc
[2017-03-07 10:20:17] Actualiteit : reyno: r.i.p
[2017-03-07 10:21:47] guvi : aethlios: now I get it. i need to look on the cost? and if i want to open a position of 20x for 1 XBT then I need the cost to be 1XBT?
[2017-03-07 10:22:27] aethlios : guvi: what position you want to open?? (in usd or btc)
[2017-03-07 10:22:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `XMR7D`: sell 100 @ 0.011674
[2017-03-07 10:22:53] aethlios : leverage helps to deposit small collateral
[2017-03-07 10:22:54] guvi : short of around 2 xbt, leverage lets say 10x
[2017-03-07 10:23:27] guvi : so i need the quntity to be 25,000 USD? @aethlios
[2017-03-07 10:24:18] Apocalyptic : guvi: yes
[2017-03-07 10:24:58] aethlios : guvi: ok so you short 25000, and if you choose 10x system will keep as collateral around 2 btc (you see that on margin collum in open positions tab)
[2017-03-07 10:25:34] guvi : aethlios: thank you! the max i can loose is the cost, right?
[2017-03-07 10:25:35] aethlios : and liquidation price will be 10% above mark price
[2017-03-07 10:25:42] guvi : yes
[2017-03-07 10:26:26] aethlios : guvi: yes the cost, and check the liq price, also you can remove margin as price goes down, so you create a take profit style position
[2017-03-07 10:27:12] aethlios : guvi: the cost is the margin (margin column in open position tab)
[2017-03-07 10:27:32] guvi : now I get it. thanks a lot
[2017-03-07 10:27:40] Farzad2 : /rekt
[2017-03-07 10:27:40] trollbot : ``` 2 hours, ago: Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 105000 @ 1276.25 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:```
[2017-03-07 10:27:40] trollbot : ``` 55 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 131994 @ 1245.21 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:```
[2017-03-07 10:27:40] trollbot : ``` 1 hour, 5 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 110019 @ 1253.59 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:```
[2017-03-07 10:27:40] trollbot : ``` 55 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 80333 @ 1243.57 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:```
[2017-03-07 10:28:20] Farzad2 : may be it is better to only show 100K+ REKTs
[2017-03-07 10:28:30] Farzad2 : too many 50K+ REKTs
[2017-03-07 10:28:39] Ahhere : Farzad2: you tried to warn us yesterday but we didnt listen
[2017-03-07 10:29:00] Farzad2 : Ahhere: did u lose money ?
[2017-03-07 10:29:12] Ahhere : Farzad2: :( yes. And I cried as you warned
[2017-03-07 10:29:24] Farzad2 : Ahhere: oh I am sorry dude
[2017-03-07 10:29:31] Actualiteit : Ahhere: lol, chin up bruv.
[2017-03-07 10:29:40] Farzad2 : dont worry, you learned from it
[2017-03-07 10:29:55] Ahhere : Did i though.... back in long yolo baby!!!
[2017-03-07 10:30:01] Ahhere : :)
[2017-03-07 10:30:33] vgck : Ahhere: Go short and set buy orders on the way down... safer...
[2017-03-07 10:30:56] Farzad2 : trading this week is dangerous.
[2017-03-07 10:31:13] Farzad2 : be ready for a $500 jump in any direction
[2017-03-07 10:32:08] followtheKITTEN : Ahhere: are oyu insane?
[2017-03-07 10:32:23] cryptonoob : Bear party is just getting started
[2017-03-07 10:32:57] vgck : cryptonoob: Is it though? This looks like the bottom
[2017-03-07 10:33:19] Actualiteit : 35 strong support expected tbh
[2017-03-07 10:33:49] whali : /sentiment
[2017-03-07 10:33:53] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 30.46 / 69.54 Daily : 56.69 / 43.31 Weekly : 53.75 / 46.26 Monthly : 50.17 / 49.83```
[2017-03-07 10:34:10] vgck : Actualiteit: People said that about 40 too, right when we broke thru it lol
[2017-03-07 10:34:23] Farzad2 : /wall
[2017-03-07 10:34:29] trollbot : ``` ±$30 Bid|Ask liq : (34 mins) $6.8m (-35.34%) | $4.4m (5.69%) ```
[2017-03-07 10:34:34] Actualiteit : yeah but you should know ive been keeping 35 as support for a while now
[2017-03-07 10:34:36] Actualiteit : 40 is nothing
[2017-03-07 10:35:19] vgck : Either way I think the dump is over
[2017-03-07 10:35:23] Farzad2 : -35% Bid liquidity n 35 mins
[2017-03-07 10:35:39] vgck : Now we consolidate up a bit then sideways until the next dump tomorrow me thinks
[2017-03-07 10:35:57] arbitrage101 : doesnt look like dump is over
[2017-03-07 10:36:17] Apocalyptic : Farzad2: Bids are melting
[2017-03-07 10:36:28] Apocalyptic : how's your bot doing today ?
[2017-03-07 10:36:43] Farzad2 : Apocalyptic: I've stopped trading this week
[2017-03-07 10:36:48] Farzad2 : too dangerous for me
[2017-03-07 10:36:53] -_- : Stamp dump
[2017-03-07 10:36:58] arbitrage101 : how many contract were you quoting
[2017-03-07 10:36:59] Apocalyptic : sound decision :)
[2017-03-07 10:37:07] arbitrage101 : and spread?
[2017-03-07 10:38:30] Farzad2 : /wall
[2017-03-07 10:38:32] trollbot : ``` ±$30 Bid|Ask liq : (4 mins) $6.9m (10.87%) | $4.9m (1.14%) ```
[2017-03-07 10:40:12] mtourig3 : when people wake up in est theyre gonna panic
[2017-03-07 10:40:55] vgck : Up we go
[2017-03-07 10:41:09] mtourig3 : vgck: not what im seeing
[2017-03-07 10:41:45] vgck : mtourig3: Any sane person in EST just stays up all night to no miss the action, I'm in EST and have been here for 6 hours.
[2017-03-07 10:41:47] deep : time to go up now.....I also think
[2017-03-07 10:41:59] vgck : mtourig3: Then you are blind... and poor
[2017-03-07 10:42:03] Farzad2 : /wall
[2017-03-07 10:42:08] trollbot : ``` ±$30 Bid|Ask liq : (3 mins) $6.8m (-6.72%) | $4.5m (-1.43%) ```
[2017-03-07 10:42:17] vgck : Farzad2: What happened to Farzad1?
[2017-03-07 10:42:33] Farzad2 : vgck: I killed him ! I am the real Farzad now :D
[2017-03-07 10:42:44] Farzad2 : screw Farzad1
[2017-03-07 10:43:06] vgck : Farzad2: o.0 lil dark but ok
[2017-03-07 10:43:13] Ahhere : Farzad2: are you Farzad1's clone sexrobot?
[2017-03-07 10:43:27] vgck : Let's try not to make the killing a habit please. Or at least spare me
[2017-03-07 10:43:41] Ahhere : Farzad2 is the singularity guise
[2017-03-07 10:43:46] Felix : Remember the 5th and 6th of January?
[2017-03-07 10:44:09] vgck : Felix: No?
[2017-03-07 10:44:34] Felix : Go look at your chart!
[2017-03-07 10:44:43] Farzad2 : Ahhere: YES !
[2017-03-07 10:44:44] snakecha : 1260 -> 900
[2017-03-07 10:44:58] vgck : Felix: That was PBoC news IIRC, don't think it's gonna happen this time
[2017-03-07 10:45:07] vgck : Price is already retracing up again anyway
[2017-03-07 10:45:27] Farzad2 : vgck: when ETF decision is announced, it would be the same
[2017-03-07 10:45:31] vgck : If a crash that big was happening we'd be at 1150 by now
[2017-03-07 10:45:43] vgck : Farzad2: But it hasn't happened now
[2017-03-07 10:45:55] Farzad2 : not yet
[2017-03-07 10:46:02] Farzad2 : will happen this week
[2017-03-07 10:47:09] vgck : Yeah I agree a rejection could bring us to 900 or lower easy, but this is not that. Right now we are going up
[2017-03-07 10:47:51] aethlios : march could go -150 from spot.
[2017-03-07 10:48:20] vgck : Now or on ETF decision?
[2017-03-07 10:48:26] cryptoyolo : suddenly the dip is not that sexy anymore
[2017-03-07 10:48:42] aethlios : on etf
[2017-03-07 10:49:14] Felix : I don't know = this market seems shaky
[2017-03-07 10:49:17] aethlios : so longs who want to bet up on etf better hold swap.
[2017-03-07 10:49:32] CutTheLosses : /rekt
[2017-03-07 10:49:32] trollbot : ``` 1 hour, 17 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 131994 @ 1245.21 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:```
[2017-03-07 10:49:32] trollbot : ``` 2 hours, 22 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 105000 @ 1276.25 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:```
[2017-03-07 10:49:33] trollbot : ``` 1 hour, 27 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 110019 @ 1253.59 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:```
[2017-03-07 10:50:00] CutTheLosses : selling the bottom is always painful
[2017-03-07 10:50:42] vgck : aethlios: If etf is rejected longs are f*cked anyway. If it's approved I think we might see a small rally then a dump, so both longs and shorts are screws
[2017-03-07 10:50:58] Dynamix : Let's see some wrecs
[2017-03-07 10:51:11] CutTheLosses : vgck: what about hodlers?
[2017-03-07 10:51:17] Ahhere : Are you not entertained?! @Dynamix
[2017-03-07 10:51:33] Dynamix : Ahhere: Not till i see a dip to 1200's ;)
[2017-03-07 10:51:40] aethlios : vgck: if approved longs will get adl because shorts have at most 10% margin to gamble the rejection.
[2017-03-07 10:51:47] vgck : CutTheLosses: They're the only ones making money, all the degens here are just burning money
[2017-03-07 10:51:49] Ahhere : check okc futures you will smile then
[2017-03-07 10:52:18] aethlios : only spot holders will make money if approved.
[2017-03-07 10:53:18] rapidtrades : aethlios: don't tell them that!
[2017-03-07 10:53:20] kurkudu : bounce very soon guys, did u buy the dip?
[2017-03-07 10:53:34] CutTheLosses : kurkudu: do you?
[2017-03-07 10:53:54] kurkudu : of course @CutTheLosses
[2017-03-07 10:54:05] CutTheLosses : big pockets!
[2017-03-07 10:54:06] Farzad2 : /wall
[2017-03-07 10:54:09] trollbot : ``` ±$30 Bid|Ask liq : (12 mins) $6.5m (7.15%) | $4.9m (-4.00%) ```
[2017-03-07 10:54:24] Farzad2 : Bids consolidating\
[2017-03-07 10:54:29] vgck : To the moon!
[2017-03-07 10:54:35] Farzad2 : probably gonna go up again
[2017-03-07 10:54:40] aeos : does anyone know what are the red numbers that appears sometimes in the orderbook size column?
[2017-03-07 10:55:23] rapidtrades : aeos: its sells
[2017-03-07 10:55:31] rapidtrades : i know ur not used to seeing them
[2017-03-07 10:55:37] kurkudu : aeos: red is the trade lower than the previous one
[2017-03-07 10:55:52] rapidtrades : but u will be seeing them a lot from now on!
[2017-03-07 10:55:54] kurkudu : rapidtrades: it can be buy in red
[2017-03-07 10:56:14] aeos : kurkudu: i still don't get it
[2017-03-07 10:56:20] rapidtrades : longs can't let it crash now, if they do its insta-reject by SEC
[2017-03-07 10:56:32] aethlios : aeos: you must be new here.
[2017-03-07 10:56:43] aeos : aethlios: kinda
[2017-03-07 10:56:54] rapidtrades : aeos: its selling! when price goes down!
[2017-03-07 10:57:04] rapidtrades : it happens from time to time
[2017-03-07 10:57:08] aethlios : aeos: it is blood from dead traders, their bodies sold in discount.
[2017-03-07 10:57:23] rapidtrades : lol $8 premium on swap
[2017-03-07 10:57:29] rapidtrades : smone is desperate to keep the con
[2017-03-07 10:57:35] VitalikButerin : Dip buyers closing in on BTC.
[2017-03-07 10:57:49] rapidtrades : VitalikButerin: go code another HF
[2017-03-07 10:58:42] rapidtrades : if the conmen let it crash on china news, SEC will be NOPE
[2017-03-07 10:58:46] CutTheLosses : we made a triple bottom
[2017-03-07 10:58:48] CutTheLosses : bullish
[2017-03-07 10:59:10] rapidtrades : Geminis I thought u said china no bad no more? i said in admendoment?
[2017-03-07 10:59:23] rapidtrades : and now we see price crash on china why geminis
[2017-03-07 10:59:28] rapidtrades : why u lies?
[2017-03-07 11:00:09] rapidtrades : in short, all buy support will be removed on ETF rejection
[2017-03-07 11:00:32] Felix : Why would SEC reject it?
[2017-03-07 11:00:47] VitalikButerin : Bitcoin has tested short-term support three times recently; extremely bullish sign
[2017-03-07 11:00:56] aeos : aethlios: so it's a forced sell or buy?
[2017-03-07 11:01:47] aethlios : aeos: red orders are forced liquidations, when margin goes zero then bitmex system sells the position.
[2017-03-07 11:02:05] ross : /joke
[2017-03-07 11:02:07] trollbot : ``` If your phone auto corrects "fuck" to "duck," it's okay to keep it It's still fowl language```
[2017-03-07 11:02:26] aeos : aethlios: ok good to know thx
[2017-03-07 11:03:46] RocketScience : /joke
[2017-03-07 11:03:47] trollbot : ``` Which is heavier, 200 pounds of brick, or 200 pounds of feather? The feathers, because 200 pounds of bricks is just 200 pounds of bricks, but with the feathers, you also have to carry the weight of what you did to those poor birds.```
[2017-03-07 11:04:13] vgck : Any guess what the new price will consolidate at? 1270? I guess we're not going as high as before the dump, right?
[2017-03-07 11:04:26] Actualiteit : hoping for 35 first
[2017-03-07 11:04:48] vgck : Actualiteit: Why didnt you buy when we were at 33? Missed your chance, bro
[2017-03-07 11:05:09] Actualiteit : Dindnt I?
[2017-03-07 11:05:50] .. : bit sideways then test 1240 again, will break this time back to 1200
[2017-03-07 11:08:14] Felix : rapidtrades: Why do you think SEC will reject ETF
[2017-03-07 11:09:22] rapidtrades : trust me, they will
[2017-03-07 11:09:42] kurkudu : Felix: rapitrades just pm me, ETF is approved
[2017-03-07 11:09:53] Felix : wonderful...
[2017-03-07 11:10:13] rapidtrades : okc quarterly no longer has premium
[2017-03-07 11:10:13] Felix : going all long then here
[2017-03-07 11:12:01] daigo : Rapid: how many ETF coin short did you buy, if you are so sure?
[2017-03-07 11:15:01] Rado : IfvETF is rejected BTC will go up
[2017-03-07 11:15:04] Rado : ;-)