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Well now, a few days after I made this mirror available to the public, the original archive from BitMEX is online again.
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[2017-03-06 22:47:30] BTCDJS : Ahhere: when you tweet me. Include you bitcoin address so I can send you a tenner.
[2017-03-06 22:52:04] BTCDJS : How much is 10 ZWD in BTC anyway? ?
[2017-03-06 22:52:24] Hawkeye : just send 100btc , should cover it ;)
[2017-03-06 22:53:21] haxmb : Thanks BitMEX_Sam <3
[2017-03-06 22:53:57] Ahhere : BTCDJS: lol what's zwd
[2017-03-06 22:54:10] aethlios : https://www.tradingview.com/x/fjYB1PKE/ next major coin to pump (only unpumped), 70% triangle 2 year major consolidation break upwards will give a target at least 20 usd.
[2017-03-06 22:54:36] BTCDJS : Ahhere: Zimbabwe dollars ?
[2017-03-06 22:54:36] KyllingLolsson : BTCDJS: hey, these ups doesnt look too convincing and entusiastic
[2017-03-06 22:54:51] Ahhere : Nice imma b rich
[2017-03-06 22:54:58] BTCDJS : Lol
[2017-03-06 22:55:13] BTCDJS : one day it'll be worth 10£
[2017-03-06 22:55:24] BTCDJS : Just HODL
[2017-03-06 22:55:26] Tetsuo : BitMEX_Sam: Will u list Btc Unlimited after ist gets activated?
[2017-03-06 22:55:38] Ahhere : 100x that shit
[2017-03-06 22:55:45] BTCDJS : KyllingLolsson: yeah not looking good mate
[2017-03-06 22:55:56] KyllingLolsson : Im 10x short
[2017-03-06 22:55:59] Farzad : hey :D
[2017-03-06 22:56:05] BTCDJS : Hey
[2017-03-06 22:56:13] Farzad : whats up ?
[2017-03-06 22:56:29] KyllingLolsson : Farzad: hi ☺️
[2017-03-06 22:56:39] Farzad : I have closed all my positions. wont trade before ETF decision
[2017-03-06 22:57:03] Farzad : I have one week free time :D
[2017-03-06 22:57:09] Farzad : any suggestions for bot ?
[2017-03-06 22:57:20] BTCDJS : Not much. Ready for bed and such. Haven't got a leveraged position open. I recon price drops back down to 1000s
[2017-03-06 22:57:50] BTCDJS : Farzad: hmm. Let me think about it
[2017-03-06 22:57:59] BTCDJS : I'll get back to you
[2017-03-06 22:58:08] Farzad : cool
[2017-03-06 22:58:51] Edujatahy : /price
[2017-03-06 22:58:55] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1278.74 (27.87%) Bitfinex : 1278.90 (27.89%) The Woodchipper : 1277.72 (27.77%) itBit : 1280.70 (28.07%) Kraken : 1274.44 (27.44%) GDAX : 1281.00 (28.10%) SLQ : ```
[2017-03-06 22:59:18] KyllingLolsson : /sentiment
[2017-03-06 22:59:21] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 64.20 / 35.80 Daily : 51.13 / 48.87 Weekly : 53.26 / 46.74 Monthly : 49.97 / 50.03```
[2017-03-06 22:59:31] KyllingLolsson : /wall
[2017-03-06 22:59:35] trollbot : ``` ±$30 Bid|Ask liq : () $9.3m (0.00%) | $10.1m (0.00%) ```
[2017-03-06 22:59:42] Noobz : Farzad: I saw a few times peepz mention your name for a bot notification for an announcement from sec about etf
[2017-03-06 22:59:43] KyllingLolsson : Wtf
[2017-03-06 23:00:14] Farzad : Noobz: yes, but I dont think it would be useful.
[2017-03-06 23:00:34] Farzad : price will jump even before u can read my bots notification
[2017-03-06 23:00:51] Farzad : people have bots trading ETF in milliseconds
[2017-03-06 23:01:01] Farzad : u have no chance manually
[2017-03-06 23:01:35] Noobz : yup
[2017-03-06 23:01:51] Noobz : i just relaid what i saw
[2017-03-06 23:02:06] Farzad : my advice : close your positions this week
[2017-03-06 23:02:13] Farzad : it is a gamble
[2017-03-06 23:02:19] Farzad : u can make a lot
[2017-03-06 23:02:23] Farzad : or lose a lot
[2017-03-06 23:02:36] Farzad : wait 1 week
[2017-03-06 23:02:45] Farzad : until ETF news is out
[2017-03-06 23:03:18] Ahhere : Farzad: wheres the fun in that?
[2017-03-06 23:03:37] Farzad : the fun is that u wont cry next week for losing all your coins
[2017-03-06 23:03:57] sleger : Farzad: +1, people with positions now are mostly gambling
[2017-03-06 23:04:07] Ahhere : I only trade with fun coins so i never cry
[2017-03-06 23:04:14] DorianWhack-A-Moto : Farzad: why wait til next week to lose all my coins? i can do it right now
[2017-03-06 23:04:17] sleger : like rapid rekt if etf approved, and will lose less if rejected
[2017-03-06 23:04:20] Ahhere : unless someone is mean
[2017-03-06 23:04:56] freundschaft : hey there
[2017-03-06 23:05:00] freundschaft : when I use cross margin
[2017-03-06 23:05:06] freundschaft : and liquidation occurs nonetheless
[2017-03-06 23:05:11] freundschaft : the loss I will incur overall
[2017-03-06 23:05:36] freundschaft : will be much larger than in a scenario where I use isolated margin right?
[2017-03-06 23:05:51] laisee : cross == ALL your funds at stake
[2017-03-06 23:06:29] donsteep : i like that. DorianWhack-A-Moto: sounds like cross mode will help you with that
[2017-03-06 23:06:37] Ahhere : DorianWhack-A-Moto: thats the spirit
[2017-03-06 23:07:09] freundschaft : alright got it
[2017-03-06 23:07:13] freundschaft : thanks @laisee
[2017-03-06 23:07:26] sleger : gemini 1286
[2017-03-06 23:07:52] Farzad : /price
[2017-03-06 23:07:57] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1279.00 (0.02%) Bitfinex : 1279.00 (0.01%) The Woodchipper : 1278.29 (0.04%) itBit : 1280.70 (0.00%) Kraken : 1274.44 (0.00%) GDAX : 1283.20 (0.17%) SLQ : 9 mins```
[2017-03-06 23:09:35] freundschaft : can cross margin also allocate funds that are already used in an existing isolated margin?
[2017-03-06 23:10:51] CutTheLosses : /request change the name okcoin in the output of /price command -- too long string
[2017-03-06 23:11:35] Apocalyptic : something ike OKC would do
[2017-03-06 23:11:44] CutTheLosses : yup
[2017-03-06 23:11:56] CutTheLosses : 0kco1n whatever
[2017-03-06 23:12:00] CutTheLosses : jeez
[2017-03-06 23:12:10] CutTheLosses : owned
[2017-03-06 23:12:21] CutTheLosses : 0kc01n
[2017-03-06 23:12:29] CutTheLosses : 0 k c 0 1 n
[2017-03-06 23:14:03] Farzad : CutTheLosses: it is bitmex auto filter. :D
[2017-03-06 23:14:20] CutTheLosses : yep i know, funny guys working here
[2017-03-06 23:14:23] Farzad : also we have no /request command !
[2017-03-06 23:14:27] Farzad : it is /suggest
[2017-03-06 23:14:35] CutTheLosses : oh ok -- sorry
[2017-03-06 23:14:39] Farzad : np
[2017-03-06 23:14:56] BitMEX_Sam : Farzad: Just use OKC
[2017-03-06 23:15:24] Farzad : OKC0IN
[2017-03-06 23:15:25] CutTheLosses : /suggest change the name the woodchipper in the output of /price command -- too long string + index price? + mean price?
[2017-03-06 23:15:25] trollbot : Thanks! got your suggestion buddy :D
[2017-03-06 23:15:41] Farzad : 0KC0IN
[2017-03-06 23:15:45] Farzad : lol
[2017-03-06 23:15:52] CutTheLosses : owned too :-P
[2017-03-06 23:15:58] Farzad : BitMEX_Sam: u have filtered all forms of OKC
[2017-03-06 23:16:18] BitMEX_Sam : Except `OKC`
[2017-03-06 23:16:19] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Sam: can u remove tru.mp from banned words? we cant share any news with the word in the url
[2017-03-06 23:16:28] BitMEX_Sam : rapidtrades: Trump has already been removed
[2017-03-06 23:16:28] Farzad : BitMEX_Sam: OK ;)
[2017-03-06 23:16:45] Farzad : rapidtrades: +1
[2017-03-06 23:16:50] rapidtrades : trump
[2017-03-06 23:16:55] CutTheLosses : trump
[2017-03-06 23:16:56] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Sam: ok tnx
[2017-03-06 23:16:58] CutTheLosses : OMGZ
[2017-03-06 23:17:00] Ahhere : Trump
[2017-03-06 23:17:03] rustiv : TRUMP
[2017-03-06 23:17:04] sleger : trump
[2017-03-06 23:17:07] sleger : its so much fun
[2017-03-06 23:17:10] sleger : more idiots
[2017-03-06 23:17:11] Farzad : trump 2020
[2017-03-06 23:17:12] ross : trump
[2017-03-06 23:17:16] Farzad : VOTE TRUMP
[2017-03-06 23:17:20] Ahhere : Drumpf
[2017-03-06 23:17:21] CutTheLosses : LoL
[2017-03-06 23:17:30] ross : Drumpf
[2017-03-06 23:17:34] ross : doesnt work for me
[2017-03-06 23:17:34] zy : Trump 2020: make america again
[2017-03-06 23:17:37] ross : Drumpf
[2017-03-06 23:21:41] laisee : Trump2020 : MAGA AGAIN
[2017-03-06 23:22:30] InvalidUser : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WoFvwW1T0fA.
[2017-03-06 23:22:56] InvalidUser : Trump is a fuktard that will make Bitcoin great\
[2017-03-06 23:23:13] InvalidUser : Trumps wants to default on USD GO TRUMP GO!!
[2017-03-06 23:26:42] sleger : you can dream
[2017-03-06 23:26:45] sleger : but it would be awesome
[2017-03-06 23:26:59] Ahhere : InvalidUser: lol was expecting that video to be a trump speech
[2017-03-06 23:27:05] laisee : Trump is a fantastic producer of Volatility in markets.
[2017-03-06 23:27:18] Ahhere : nobody produces volatility like trump. believe me
[2017-03-06 23:27:33] InvalidUser : Ahhere: Kek no one si that mean
[2017-03-06 23:27:33] mtourig3 : breaking 1300 soon
[2017-03-06 23:27:36] laisee : He's the best, beleive him!
[2017-03-06 23:27:57] Ahhere : they took our jerbs trump!
[2017-03-06 23:28:29] laisee : 2 lies in every Trump sentence. productive!
[2017-03-06 23:29:00] Ahhere : summary after every sentence. helpful.
[2017-03-06 23:30:40] InvalidUser : Just so you know all school reports will be 140 char or under.
[2017-03-06 23:30:51] InvalidUser : Be presidential.
[2017-03-06 23:31:14] laisee : making Anericans Grade Again!
[2017-03-06 23:33:19] InvalidUser : Grade as in fill in the pot holes of the crumbling infrastructure.
[2017-03-06 23:33:56] degen : wow someone got margin called for 390k on that fake news? dang
[2017-03-06 23:34:15] rapidtrades : its only 'fake' until its confrimed
[2017-03-06 23:34:31] degen : rapidtrades: it was fake
[2017-03-06 23:34:37] rapidtrades : as our leader Trump says 'the leaks are real but the news is FAKE'
[2017-03-06 23:34:40] mtourig3 : degen: what fake news?
[2017-03-06 23:35:06] degen : that the etf was denied earlier. people got rekt over that. RIP
[2017-03-06 23:37:02] rapidtrades : does anyone know how to pull old addresses from electrum?
[2017-03-06 23:37:13] rapidtrades : it only shows recent
[2017-03-06 23:37:31] wurstgelee : looking ready to pop
[2017-03-06 23:38:42] startChat : rapidtrades: isn
[2017-03-06 23:38:48] startChat : there a addresses tab
[2017-03-06 23:38:55] startChat : isn't there*
[2017-03-06 23:39:53] ross : this could very nearly go any direction
[2017-03-06 23:39:54] rapidtrades : ;earn to read bra
[2017-03-06 23:40:03] startChat : rapidtrades: how
[2017-03-06 23:40:34] rapidtrades : https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/5xwd8p/exchanges_should_start_trading_insurance_options/
[2017-03-06 23:40:37] rapidtrades : this is good
[2017-03-06 23:40:48] rapidtrades : let's try it with bitfinex first
[2017-03-06 23:40:57] oz : /wall
[2017-03-06 23:41:18] oz : hullo?
[2017-03-06 23:41:28] Farzad : /wall
[2017-03-06 23:41:39] Farzad : bot is dead :(
[2017-03-06 23:41:43] Farzad : /joke
[2017-03-06 23:41:44] trollbot : ``` I saw a sign that made me shit my pants It said "bathroom closed".```
[2017-03-06 23:41:49] oz : /price
[2017-03-06 23:41:54] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1279.72 (27.97%) Bitfinex : 1279.90 (27.99%) The Woodchipper : 1278.82 (27.88%) itBit : 1282.71 (28.27%) Kraken : 1274.90 (27.49%) GDAX : 1284.78 (28.48%) SLQ : ```
[2017-03-06 23:41:57] oz : lol wtf
[2017-03-06 23:41:58] oz : /wall
[2017-03-06 23:42:11] oz : /sentiment
[2017-03-06 23:42:14] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 27.28 / 72.72 Daily : 51.17 / 48.84 Weekly : 53.20 / 46.80 Monthly : 50.00 / 50.01```
[2017-03-06 23:42:17] oz : whatever
[2017-03-06 23:42:21] Farzad : if one of 4 exchanges do not return the data, it wont be showed
[2017-03-06 23:42:33] Farzad : thats why it doesnt work
[2017-03-06 23:42:34] oz : huh ok
[2017-03-06 23:42:35] oz : ty
[2017-03-06 23:42:54] Farzad : np
[2017-03-06 23:43:26] Farzad : /wall
[2017-03-06 23:43:57] Farzad : someone'a API is broken! lol
[2017-03-06 23:51:05] Tetsuo : https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/5xugxg/circle_is_building_a_payment_system_on_ethereum/
[2017-03-06 23:54:12] sleger : thats not a news
[2017-03-06 23:54:19] sleger : everyone is building everything on ethereum
[2017-03-06 23:54:27] sleger : there, shortcut
[2017-03-06 23:54:46] BitMEX_Sam : Time for a DAO that builds DAOs
[2017-03-06 23:55:05] sleger : dont have any problem with dao
[2017-03-06 23:55:16] sleger : then majority choose to save dummies
[2017-03-06 23:55:24] sleger : thats how modern societies work anyways
[2017-03-06 23:56:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: sell 1000 @ 0.015490
[2017-03-07 00:01:49] hmmmYea : BitMEX_Sam: wings?
[2017-03-07 00:02:00] BitMEX_Sam : hmmmYea: Red Bull?
[2017-03-07 00:02:33] hmmmYea : BitMEX_Sam: wings is a dao that builds daos
[2017-03-07 00:02:42] BitMEX_Sam : Hah, figures.
[2017-03-07 00:02:50] BitMEX_Sam : Not surprised whatsoever.
[2017-03-07 00:03:08] BitMEX_Sam : I think the biggest winner in the Altcoin craze of 2013/14 was the guy who did that automated altcoin creator for pay
[2017-03-07 00:03:09] hmmmYea : i know..... i do not own any tokens...
[2017-03-07 00:03:58] tb : i got redirected here after clef login https://www.bitmex.com/app/clefEOL but the link only shows a loading bar that doesn't load
[2017-03-07 00:07:09] BitMEX_Sam : tb: Thanks, our apologies
[2017-03-07 00:07:20] BitMEX_Sam : That is simply a notification page that informs you about Clef's impending shutdown on 6/6
[2017-03-07 00:07:29] BitMEX_Sam : Go to https://www.bitmex.com/app/account before 6/6 to disable Clef.
[2017-03-07 00:08:15] spice : /rekt
[2017-03-07 00:08:16] trollbot : ``` 20 hours, 3 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 52377 @ 1269.51 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:```
[2017-03-07 00:08:16] trollbot : ``` 20 hours, 3 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 50000 @ 1269.19 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:```
[2017-03-07 00:08:16] trollbot : ``` 3 hours, 23 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 390000 @ 1300.55 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire:```
[2017-03-07 00:10:38] mtourig3 : wow 390k
[2017-03-07 00:11:36] Ovan : Yeah, lost to fake news as well...that's got to sting
[2017-03-07 00:22:00] sleger : ETF approved !
[2017-03-07 00:22:04] sleger : can someone lost 4k again ?
[2017-03-07 00:22:25] sleger : looks like that dummy alejandro got rekt for good, awesome
[2017-03-07 00:22:49] Apocalyptic : he was the guy arguing with rapid, right ?
[2017-03-07 00:26:25] CutTheLosses : when do the fireworks start?
[2017-03-07 00:27:37] rustiv : ~15min
[2017-03-07 00:28:03] CutTheLosses : perfect
[2017-03-07 00:28:13] CutTheLosses : was a bit bored
[2017-03-07 00:29:17] -_- : damn btc going up
[2017-03-07 00:29:26] -_- : must not fomo. must wait for dip
[2017-03-07 00:32:08] sleger : -_-: gemini is at 1287
[2017-03-07 00:33:38] -_- : damn must be ETF insiders buying
[2017-03-07 00:33:50] Apocalyptic : or DMMs
[2017-03-07 00:34:00] CutTheLosses : bad actor
[2017-03-07 00:34:28] Brazilian Goat : /joke
[2017-03-07 00:34:30] trollbot : ``` What is the difference between an irish wedding and an irish funeral? One fewer drunk person. Edit: Fewer, not less ```
[2017-03-07 00:34:43] sleger : CutTheLosses: are you short and scared too ?
[2017-03-07 00:34:50] Farzad : /price
[2017-03-07 00:34:54] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1278.32 (27.83%) Bitfinex : 1279.50 (27.95%) The Woodchipper : 1279.87 (27.99%) itBit : 1281.58 (28.16%) Kraken : 1279.69 (27.97%) GDAX : 1284.86 (28.49%) SLQ : ```
[2017-03-07 00:35:31] Brazilian Goat : /joke
[2017-03-07 00:35:32] trollbot : ``` What rock group has four men that don't sing? Mount Rushmore.```
[2017-03-07 00:35:35] CutTheLosses : sleger: i am long! you?
[2017-03-07 00:35:55] sleger : I am flort
[2017-03-07 00:36:02] sleger : shong
[2017-03-07 00:36:11] laisee : shlong?
[2017-03-07 00:36:16] CutTheLosses : is it chinese?
[2017-03-07 00:36:46] sleger : no we are in the english trollbox here
[2017-03-07 00:36:56] sleger : chinese only convo with rekt
[2017-03-07 00:37:33] Apocalyptic : CutTheLosses: I suspect sleger is as wel
[2017-03-07 00:37:44] sleger : long ?
[2017-03-07 00:37:49] Apocalyptic : yes
[2017-03-07 00:38:04] Brazilian Goat : shong
[2017-03-07 00:38:05] sleger : i am long ethusd
[2017-03-07 00:38:13] sleger : i am long xbtcny vs xbtusd
[2017-03-07 00:38:35] sleger : then i have my etf decision trade which i will only announce after the outcome
[2017-03-07 00:38:43] CutTheLosses : interesting
[2017-03-07 00:38:51] CutTheLosses : some complexity here
[2017-03-07 00:39:02] Apocalyptic : sleger: you don't even have a hedge short ?
[2017-03-07 00:39:24] sleger : all my btc are hedged
[2017-03-07 00:39:45] sleger : im not gambling the sec decision over which i have no control
[2017-03-07 00:40:07] Farzad_IRC : cool IRC :D
[2017-03-07 00:40:27] CutTheLosses : welcome to the interwebz
[2017-03-07 00:40:29] sleger : so all in usd with no pure directional trade (besides ethusd)
[2017-03-07 00:41:20] sleger : and my ethusd has nothing to do with the etf
[2017-03-07 00:41:26] sleger : i've had it for a while and for a while
[2017-03-07 00:41:34] Apocalyptic : I'm considering shutting down my MM
[2017-03-07 00:41:36] Farzad_IRC : sleger: even if u r hedged u should make sure u have enough margin. otherwise one side may get liquidated.
[2017-03-07 00:41:58] Farzad : Apocalyptic: u have a MM ?
[2017-03-07 00:42:06] Apocalyptic : short of having a PDF-paser a la lockhedge I'm going to get torn to pieces
[2017-03-07 00:42:07] Farzad : Apocalyptic: profitable ?
[2017-03-07 00:42:10] sleger : i dont think you understand the definition of a hedge @Farzad_IRC
[2017-03-07 00:42:34] Farzad : sleger: really ? OK then, teach me
[2017-03-07 00:42:34] CutTheLosses : i am thinking about converting some BTC into silver
[2017-03-07 00:42:35] Apocalyptic : Farzad: Guess I you wouldn't be here otherwise
[2017-03-07 00:42:38] CutTheLosses : ultimate hedge
[2017-03-07 00:42:56] Brazilian Goat : /rekt
[2017-03-07 00:42:56] trollbot : ``` 20 hours, 38 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 52377 @ 1269.51 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:```
[2017-03-07 00:42:56] trollbot : ``` 20 hours, 38 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 50000 @ 1269.19 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:```
[2017-03-07 00:42:56] trollbot : ``` 3 hours, 57 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 390000 @ 1300.55 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire:```
[2017-03-07 00:42:56] trollbot : ``` 3 hours, 57 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 150000 @ 1304.02 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:```
[2017-03-07 00:43:03] Farzad : Apocalyptic: I have not succeeded in making a profitable MM bot yet :D
[2017-03-07 00:43:14] Apocalyptic : Farzad: yeah you told me last time
[2017-03-07 00:43:15] sleger : Farzad: if you have 1btc and you sell 1250 contracts here, you (almost) cant get liquidated
[2017-03-07 00:43:49] Farzad : sleger: and what about the other side ?
[2017-03-07 00:43:53] laisee : Farzad: sleger is long && short for ETF decision.
[2017-03-07 00:44:35] laisee : prolly his greatest risk is counterparty, not BTC price.
[2017-03-07 00:44:35] sleger : Farzad: you said liquidated thats not liquidation
[2017-03-07 00:44:58] cryptonoob : /price
[2017-03-07 00:44:59] Farzad : Apocalyptic: I think your bots are not real MM by definition. you have trading bots who place limit orders, thats not MM.
[2017-03-07 00:45:02] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1278.92 (0.05%) Bitfinex : 1279.30 (-0.02%) The Woodchipper : 1279.69 (-0.01%) itBit : 1281.99 (0.03%) Kraken : 1274.45 (-0.41%) GDAX : 1282.89 (-0.15%) SLQ : 10 mins```
[2017-03-07 00:45:20] Apocalyptic : Farzad: I beg your pardon ?
[2017-03-07 00:45:35] sleger : Apocalyptic: he said "I think your bots are not real MM by definition. you have trading bots who place limit orders, thats not MM."
[2017-03-07 00:45:51] Apocalyptic : ty sleger
[2017-03-07 00:46:05] Farzad : Apocalyptic: MM means u make money by spread and commission, without caring about market direction. is it what you are doing ?
[2017-03-07 00:46:30] Apocalyptic : yes, I quote bids & asks at every moment in time
[2017-03-07 00:46:38] Apocalyptic : pretty sure that's what an MM is
[2017-03-07 00:46:56] Apocalyptic : I'm wondering where you got "you have trading bots who place limit orders, thats not MM" from
[2017-03-07 00:47:54] Farzad : Apocalyptic: MM should not have almost equal buy and sell orders to process, so they are not imposed to market movements, but we do not have enough liquidity here for that.
[2017-03-07 00:48:13] Farzad : should have *
[2017-03-07 00:48:23] Apocalyptic : Farzad: you seem to know more than me then
[2017-03-07 00:49:50] Farzad : Apocalyptic: No, I am talking about perfect MM conditions.
[2017-03-07 00:50:07] Farzad : which u r not exposed to trends.
[2017-03-07 00:50:23] sleger : your definition is a bit extreme
[2017-03-07 00:50:33] Farzad : the problem of MM is that u always trade against the trends
[2017-03-07 00:50:37] sleger : im sure many pro hft firms wouldnt qualify as mm by your definition
[2017-03-07 00:50:43] j8 : you're saying a market maker can only exist in a market that's already made
[2017-03-07 00:51:03] -_- : nice little okc quarterly pump
[2017-03-07 00:51:11] sleger : i'm just going to post here this ... :
[2017-03-07 00:51:16] tb : "the problem of MM is that u always trade against the trends" -only if you're dumb
[2017-03-07 00:51:28] sleger : " Farzad: Apocalyptic: I have not succeeded in making a profitable MM bot yet ?"
[2017-03-07 00:51:58] Apocalyptic : j8: hey, you're going to quote through the news ?
[2017-03-07 00:52:21] j8 : what do you think
[2017-03-07 00:52:23] Farzad : tb: well, if u can predict the trends, there is no need to be a market maker. go and trade the trend !
[2017-03-07 00:52:40] lockhedge : Farzad: over a long enough time period, there is no trend. i'm not using dynamic hedging for my bot, so it's always trading "against the trend"
[2017-03-07 00:52:49] Apocalyptic : j8: my guess is not really, or with some insane spread
[2017-03-07 00:53:15] Apocalyptic : at least we'll have lockhedge quotin
[2017-03-07 00:53:16] j8 : sure asks at $2000
[2017-03-07 00:53:22] sleger : "lockhedge: Farzad: over a long enough time period, there is no trend"
[2017-03-07 00:53:30] sleger : have you looked at any equity index ?
[2017-03-07 00:53:34] sleger : heard of inflation ?
[2017-03-07 00:53:34] Apocalyptic : 20% spread ftw
[2017-03-07 00:55:13] tb : its so fun
[2017-03-07 00:55:17] tb : 10 million notional here
[2017-03-07 00:55:30] tb : probably 7m+ overleveraged
[2017-03-07 00:55:36] Farzad : Apocalyptic: 20% spread is like $250 right now !
[2017-03-07 00:55:40] tb : just need to wait till decision and watch the rekts
[2017-03-07 00:55:49] lockhedge : sleger: i said "long enough time period" ;)
[2017-03-07 00:56:08] sleger : lockhedge: look at any equity over a long enough time period
[2017-03-07 00:56:09] Apocalyptic : Farzad: yeah, insane isn't it
[2017-03-07 00:57:16] Farzad : Apocalyptic: u r kidding, right ? if u set 20% spread, your orders would never get filled.
[2017-03-07 00:57:49] Apocalyptic : in current market conditions sure
[2017-03-07 00:58:07] Apocalyptic : in the minutes following the ETF decision they might
[2017-03-07 00:58:21] sleger : sell at 1500 buy back at 2000
[2017-03-07 00:58:43] Farzad : Apocalyptic: sure, but what about normal market conditions ?
[2017-03-07 00:59:40] Apocalyptic : well in normal market conditions you quote a reasonably normal spread
[2017-03-07 00:59:48] mtourig3 : Apocalyptic: 20% spread on what?
[2017-03-07 01:00:37] sleger : reasonable is 1$ or 5% (bottom feeder)
[2017-03-07 01:00:46] sleger : ?
[2017-03-07 01:00:50] sleger : *5$
[2017-03-07 01:03:22] zy : so the price is stablising now?
[2017-03-07 01:04:10] sleger : btw how do you guys feel that there is no leverage reduction ?
[2017-03-07 01:04:15] sleger : zy: yes, sure
[2017-03-07 01:04:28] Apocalyptic : sleger: disappointed
[2017-03-07 01:04:58] sleger : nobody will really hold a winning position through the announcement
[2017-03-07 01:06:12] rustiv : /pol/ predicts ETF approval
[2017-03-07 01:06:19] rustiv : /pol/ is always right I heard
[2017-03-07 01:06:31] sleger : *always*
[2017-03-07 01:07:29] sleger : seems like we have new batches of 200 dummies every day now. rustiv probably part of the last one, or the one from yesterday
[2017-03-07 01:08:04] rustiv : i came with de batch from december 16
[2017-03-07 01:08:25] rustiv : still alive and doing good
[2017-03-07 01:09:09] sleger : all good things come to an end
[2017-03-07 01:09:13] sleger : bad ones too
[2017-03-07 01:11:06] Bitcoingirl : SegWit = scam
[2017-03-07 01:11:08] sleger : how do i easily get 1hr or 1d banned from polo trollbox ?
[2017-03-07 01:11:32] Apocalyptic : sleger: try linking to a competing exchange
[2017-03-07 01:11:34] sleger : i've never been banned yet, feeling like im wasting my points not being banned
[2017-03-07 01:11:38] Apocalyptic : bonus with referall links
[2017-03-07 01:11:42] sleger : Apocalyptic: something more subtle
[2017-03-07 01:11:48] rangle : just put in a "____ coin to the moon"
[2017-03-07 01:11:51] sleger : or maybe just name it
[2017-03-07 01:12:02] sleger : if i name an exchange with no link ?
[2017-03-07 01:12:16] sleger : for instance, oh i bought xyz at a great price on bitmex ?
[2017-03-07 01:12:29] Apocalyptic : worth a shot
[2017-03-07 01:12:30] micmix : sleger: imho they should have decreased leverage to 50x long time ago. 100x is insane with current volatility but they don't want to lose on fees
[2017-03-07 01:12:36] sleger : I said earlier : lots of buy on eth on bitmex (was true) and nothing
[2017-03-07 01:12:44] Apocalyptic : micmix: can't agree more
[2017-03-07 01:12:47] sleger : micmix: yes but then no position will win
[2017-03-07 01:12:54] sleger : on etf decision, immediate ADL
[2017-03-07 01:12:56] Apocalyptic : but even 50x for the announcement is better than nothing at all
[2017-03-07 01:13:07] sleger : so you cant even gamble, trade or hedge ....
[2017-03-07 01:13:12] sleger : more than maybe 50$ move
[2017-03-07 01:13:30] micmix : 100x is good marketing though, and marketing beats everything
[2017-03-07 01:13:41] sleger : you can have 100x but not this week
[2017-03-07 01:13:45] micmix : I know, everyone will be adled here
[2017-03-07 01:13:56] lockhedge : imho 50x or 20x wouldn't change a lot in extreme scenarios, only concentrate liqs at a closer price
[2017-03-07 01:14:15] sleger : lockhedge: maintenance margin would be extremely different are you crazy ????
[2017-03-07 01:14:21] sleger : right now it is 0.5% !!!!
[2017-03-07 01:14:36] sleger : with 10x you can make it 7.5% for instance
[2017-03-07 01:14:41] sleger : that is 15x more
[2017-03-07 01:14:45] lockhedge : agree maintenance margin is a problem, but they can't change it easily
[2017-03-07 01:14:53] sleger : yes they can
[2017-03-07 01:15:05] sleger : 50x leverage ,maintenance from 0.5 to 1.5%
[2017-03-07 01:15:09] sleger : that is 3x more
[2017-03-07 01:15:10] Apocalyptic : Sam hinted he would consider it
[2017-03-07 01:15:24] sleger : leverage 20x, maintenance 3% or more, that is so much better
[2017-03-07 01:15:34] sleger : Apocalyptic: if they havent yet its too late
[2017-03-07 01:15:47] sleger : decision could have been today
[2017-03-07 01:15:58] Apocalyptic : sleger: I know
[2017-03-07 01:16:30] Apocalyptic : maybe if we're lucky they'll do it in the middle of the week
[2017-03-07 01:16:48] sleger : that would just be stupid
[2017-03-07 01:16:53] sleger : why wait so long
[2017-03-07 01:16:59] sleger : they just shouldnt do it now
[2017-03-07 01:17:06] sleger : it was earlier or never
[2017-03-07 01:17:22] sleger : anyways, trade accordingly
[2017-03-07 01:17:31] Apocalyptic : it the decision is announced Friday afternoon I would rather had it done late than never
[2017-03-07 01:18:32] Apocalyptic : however illogical that may be
[2017-03-07 01:21:30] sleger : going 50x long and short with 0.5% maint margin might make sense
[2017-03-07 01:21:41] sleger : there is probably no insurance fund left for btc anyways
[2017-03-07 01:29:06] promanner : DAMN
[2017-03-07 01:29:07] promanner : https://twitter.com/rogerkver/status/838922395545034752
[2017-03-07 01:30:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: sell 1742 @ 0.015280
[2017-03-07 01:30:12] Apocalyptic : so he did it
[2017-03-07 01:30:27] Apocalyptic : he's gonna pay miners extra btc from his pocket
[2017-03-07 01:30:50] rustiv : he really wants to be the rothschild of bitcoin
[2017-03-07 01:30:59] -_- : eth dumping
[2017-03-07 01:37:05] DorianWhack-A-Moto : promanner: 110% block rewards? lolwut?
[2017-03-07 01:37:44] promanner : It's subsidized
[2017-03-07 01:37:48] promanner : to support Bitcoin Unlimited
[2017-03-07 01:37:54] promanner : This will be bad for the ETF
[2017-03-07 01:38:09] promanner : Further discord within the bitcoin community
[2017-03-07 01:39:03] reyno : this is the most stable I've seen the price for a while
[2017-03-07 01:39:24] reyno : literally all day its not done anythinh
[2017-03-07 01:41:22] DorianWhack-A-Moto : Ver is literally trying to bribe miners to go with BU. What a dick.
[2017-03-07 01:41:27] sleger : roger ver saving rapid ? I dont see it happening
[2017-03-07 01:42:29] sleger : i cant get banned from polo
[2017-03-07 01:42:40] sleger : i mentioned 2 other exchanges
[2017-03-07 01:42:48] sleger : i said eth too cheap good buyzzz
[2017-03-07 01:42:54] sleger : i mentioned kraken !
[2017-03-07 01:43:33] sleger : i dont want to be too brutal, i want a warning, then a subtle fock off for the warning and see if i get a short ban
[2017-03-07 01:43:35] sleger : help ?
[2017-03-07 01:44:47] sleger : dom 2002 and pomerol 2010, this was a good evening, would like to finish it with a quick piss off of some polo admin
[2017-03-07 01:46:16] oz : wat
[2017-03-07 01:47:14] sleger : oz: you need a dictionary ?
[2017-03-07 01:47:47] DorianWhack-A-Moto : I need a dictionary too.
[2017-03-07 01:48:06] oz : I need an adult
[2017-03-07 01:48:08] DorianWhack-A-Moto : Something something polo, something kraken...something something
[2017-03-07 01:48:13] oz : ^ thats all I got
[2017-03-07 01:48:51] j8 : sleger: try telling everyone they get better leverage on altcoins at bitmex
[2017-03-07 01:49:08] sleger : j8: let me be more subtle for instance :
[2017-03-07 01:49:24] sleger : what is the setting to get the same leverage than bitmex
[2017-03-07 01:49:29] sleger : would that work ?
[2017-03-07 01:49:42] j8 : hehe
[2017-03-07 01:50:30] sleger : "superrapidtrades: Hey, can someone help me pleazzzz ? what is the setting to get the same leverage than bitmex ?"
[2017-03-07 01:50:49] sleger : and I got : "VenomGhost: superrapidtrades, Want to Margin Trade or Lend, read about it here: https://poloniex.com/support/aboutMarginTrading"
[2017-03-07 01:50:57] sleger : they only help me WTH
[2017-03-07 01:51:38] sleger : maybe its because i have over few hundred btc there they are nicer ?
[2017-03-07 01:52:04] rangle : youre too bored
[2017-03-07 01:52:08] sleger : "eyejay: superrapidtrades, there is no setting, 2.5 x is max"
[2017-03-07 01:52:20] sleger : "Abecedarian: superrapidtrades, lol"
[2017-03-07 01:52:23] sleger : thats all i got
[2017-03-07 01:52:44] sleger : j8: wth ?
[2017-03-07 01:53:13] sleger : at least here it s easy, you insult everyone's mom for 2 days and you get a ban
[2017-03-07 01:53:14] Apocalyptic : "maybe its because i have over few hundred btc there they are nicer " <-- might be relevant
[2017-03-07 01:53:29] DorianWhack-A-Moto : lol funniest meme i've seen in a while:
[2017-03-07 01:53:30] DorianWhack-A-Moto : https://i.redd.it/koa6rtxgq1jy.jpg
[2017-03-07 01:53:33] sleger : you actually think their "mods" see that real time ? @Apocalyptic
[2017-03-07 01:53:49] sleger : I doubt it
[2017-03-07 01:53:57] Apocalyptic : sleger: I'm sure they can see it in a second in their mod interface
[2017-03-07 01:54:13] Apocalyptic : since they can cancel withdrawals and do other stuff with balances
[2017-03-07 01:54:17] lockhedge : it's probably a chat bot
[2017-03-07 01:54:20] sleger : I thought mods were mostly regular users there
[2017-03-07 01:54:30] sleger : i never use their chat its impossible to follow
[2017-03-07 01:54:40] Apocalyptic : sleger: no, he definitely has some panel access
[2017-03-07 01:54:47] sleger : have you guys noticed my username there ?
[2017-03-07 01:54:54] sleger : "superrapidtrades"
[2017-03-07 01:55:10] micmix : sleger: try saying something like "your mom gives me bigger leverage than polo" to the mod
[2017-03-07 01:55:26] Apocalyptic : sleger: I would have gone with "rapidmoons", but yours is not bad
[2017-03-07 01:55:28] sleger : micmix: how long of a ban ?
[2017-03-07 01:55:58] micmix : 1 day I guess
[2017-03-07 01:56:04] sleger : cool
[2017-03-07 01:56:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `DASH7D`: sell 3 @ 0.035505
[2017-03-07 01:56:41] sleger : "superrapidtrades: VenomGhost, my friend micmix told me to tell you that your mom (and arthut) gives me bigger leverage than polo"
[2017-03-07 01:57:06] micmix : lol
[2017-03-07 01:57:33] sleger : NOTHINH
[2017-03-07 01:57:53] micmix : immune to mom jokes? that's not right
[2017-03-07 01:57:56] sleger : no reply no ban
[2017-03-07 01:57:57] lockhedge : chat bot can't answer that question ;)
[2017-03-07 01:57:59] rapidtrades : lol 110% mining reward
[2017-03-07 01:58:11] rapidtrades : roger ver really wants to take down bitcoin
[2017-03-07 01:58:40] Apocalyptic : rapidtrades: he's been saying for a year that he has no issue paying miners to mine his version
[2017-03-07 01:58:41] sleger : rapidtrades: you missed all my fun at polo box
[2017-03-07 01:59:07] Apocalyptic : now he just put money where his mouth was
[2017-03-07 01:59:21] rapidtrades : love how the market has become incapable of digesting any bad news
[2017-03-07 01:59:46] rapidtrades : consolidating near highs can only mean one thing, acceptance has been priced in
[2017-03-07 02:00:17] sleger : rapidtrades: "superrapidtrades: VenomGhost, my friend micmix told me to tell you that your mom (and arthut) gives me bigger leverage than polo" <= i told that to polo admin
[2017-03-07 02:00:22] sleger : he didnt even reply
[2017-03-07 02:00:33] rapidtrades : the crash after withdrawal with be EPIC
[2017-03-07 02:00:53] sleger : i am polo immortal
[2017-03-07 02:00:59] Apocalyptic : sleger: he knows you're trolling him
[2017-03-07 02:01:07] sleger : Apocalyptic: yes but they ban trolls
[2017-03-07 02:01:11] sleger : quick
[2017-03-07 02:01:18] sleger : 2 guys were banned for nothing
[2017-03-07 02:01:21] Apocalyptic : and not in his interest to ban _you_
[2017-03-07 02:01:59] Apocalyptic : out of curiosity could you tell me the spread IB is quoting for CHFCNH ?
[2017-03-07 02:02:01] sleger : how far can it go ?
[2017-03-07 02:02:15] sleger : swiss / cnh ?
[2017-03-07 02:02:20] Apocalyptic : yes
[2017-03-07 02:02:27] sleger : im guessing you should do 2 trades
[2017-03-07 02:02:32] Apocalyptic : (I know that's very exotic)
[2017-03-07 02:02:36] sleger : let me check
[2017-03-07 02:04:56] sleger : Apocalyptic: couldnt get a quote
[2017-03-07 02:05:07] sleger : so googled and found that : https://ibkb.interactivebrokers.com/node/64
[2017-03-07 02:06:01] Apocalyptic : I see, ty
[2017-03-07 02:07:52] Apocalyptic : https://coin.dance/blocks <- nice site to track BU/Segwit signaling battle
[2017-03-07 02:12:05] rapidtrades : this is like Brexit, market run up sky high pricing in remain then we crashed on actual result
[2017-03-07 02:12:08] sleger : Temporarily Grounded The Gemini Exchange is currently undergoing maintenance. Please check back later.
[2017-03-07 02:12:09] sleger : NEWS
[2017-03-07 02:12:13] sleger : NEWS
[2017-03-07 02:12:15] sleger : NEWS
[2017-03-07 02:12:18] Apocalyptic : wow
[2017-03-07 02:12:42] micmix : sell everything!
[2017-03-07 02:12:42] rapidtrades : why would they do maintence for news dummy
[2017-03-07 02:12:50] sleger : calling Tyler W now
[2017-03-07 02:13:21] lockhedge : sleger: are you trading on Gemini?
[2017-03-07 02:13:33] sleger : rapidtrades: they're buying the orderbook until 2k dummy
[2017-03-07 02:13:55] rapidtrades : sounds legit
[2017-03-07 02:14:25] sleger : lockhedge: no
[2017-03-07 02:15:11] micmix : yeah, my bot is getting errors from Gemini both public and private API
[2017-03-07 02:15:38] lockhedge : are you trading there? i was thinking about opening an institutional account (can't register a personal account from my country)
[2017-03-07 02:15:47] sleger : guys you heard it here first thanks to <==
[2017-03-07 02:15:52] rapidtrades : if they're announcing it, must be withdrawal
[2017-03-07 02:16:07] Apocalyptic : micmix: is this frequent for Gemini ?
[2017-03-07 02:16:24] sleger : no
[2017-03-07 02:16:56] micmix : lockhedge: afaik if one of the owners with 10% or more is a resident of non-supported country, your institutional account will not be approved
[2017-03-07 02:17:14] micmix : Apocalyptic: last maintaince was long time ago
[2017-03-07 02:17:54] micmix : lockhedge: but you better ask, maybe something changed
[2017-03-07 02:18:13] sleger : T not picking up
[2017-03-07 02:18:50] rangle : too much troll, not enough box
[2017-03-07 02:19:08] lockhedge : micmix: yeah, will ask. thanks
[2017-03-07 02:19:08] sleger : rangle: try the chinese one, newb dummy
[2017-03-07 02:19:16] micmix : rangle: Gemini down is not fake news
[2017-03-07 02:19:37] sleger : and first report was here <==
[2017-03-07 02:19:38] rapidtrades : ITS FAKE NEWS
[2017-03-07 02:19:58] rangle : and i thank you for that info, but calling tyler? lol