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[2017-03-06 21:44:30] Hawkeye : personally i think coin will be aproved, not so sure the others will pass in one go
[2017-03-06 21:44:48] jho : Either all 3 will be rejected or definitely at least COIN (if at least 1 is apporved), was my point
[2017-03-06 21:45:23] rapidtrades : after 5pm it happ
[2017-03-06 21:45:29] rapidtrades : i have a unch
[2017-03-06 21:45:37] rapidtrades : hunch*
[2017-03-06 21:45:42] rapidtrades : just had lunch
[2017-03-06 21:45:55] odieoh : i hope your hunch is right; I'm sick of waiting on this and not sleeping
[2017-03-06 21:46:15] rapidtrades : it should be safe to sleep in 3-4 hrs
[2017-03-06 21:46:19] Hawkeye : yes rip off that bandaid quick :)
[2017-03-06 21:46:52] odieoh : I'll sleep ok tonight, ratcheted down my leverage now that the funding is back down to shit
[2017-03-06 21:47:03] lockhedge : jho: there are possible specific reasons to reject COIN, e.g. the potential conflict of interest with Gemini (their ETF's business model is the generate fees on their exchange)
[2017-03-06 21:47:20] -_- : what time does the SEC usually post stuff
[2017-03-06 21:47:30] rapidtrades : 5pm EST
[2017-03-06 21:47:37] -_- : thought it was late morning or early afternoon for all the COIN stuff
[2017-03-06 21:47:42] rapidtrades : right before they leave the bulding
[2017-03-06 21:47:46] -_- : https://www.sec.gov/rules/sro/batsbzx.htm
[2017-03-06 21:47:51] -_- : no time stamps on those though
[2017-03-06 21:48:11] jho : lockhedge: if that was a non-starter it would be known by now
[2017-03-06 21:48:13] yungyang : rapidtrades: that change allows for more lqiudidity and less risk/share
[2017-03-06 21:48:32] rapidtrades : IS SEC ON EST?
[2017-03-06 21:48:40] yungyang : itll be Wednesday or we won't hear
[2017-03-06 21:48:51] rapidtrades : IS SEC ON EST?
[2017-03-06 21:48:57] yungyang : yes
[2017-03-06 21:48:59] yungyang : NY
[2017-03-06 21:50:26] lockhedge : jho: the SEC asked for comments on this issue. it might be something the twins are not willing to change (as this is their business model), but low chance that it will be the main reason for a possible disapproval
[2017-03-06 21:50:35] hmmmYea : lockhedge: the winklevii are too greedy for their own good
[2017-03-06 21:51:14] rapidtrades : I DON'T THINK ITS EST
[2017-03-06 21:51:20] rapidtrades : last change says 12:02
[2017-03-06 21:51:40] rapidtrades : and that happened a 17:00 CET
[2017-03-06 21:52:42] jho : SEC is EST, no chance of announcement after 5pm
[2017-03-06 21:52:43] Apocalyptic : rapidtrades: you're italian btw or just living in Rome ?
[2017-03-06 21:52:54] jho : unless leak of some kind
[2017-03-06 21:53:00] rapidtrades : im not in rome anymore
[2017-03-06 21:54:14] -_- : oh here are the times https://www.sec.gov/rules/sro/batsbzx/2017/?C=M;O=D
[2017-03-06 21:54:27] -_- : 17:14 is the latest this year
[2017-03-06 21:54:33] rapidtrades : yes, like i said lot of around 17h
[2017-03-06 21:54:36] rapidtrades : 16-17h
[2017-03-06 21:54:42] rapidtrades : last minute
[2017-03-06 21:55:25] rapidtrades : but is that EST tho
[2017-03-06 21:55:56] -_- : yeah
[2017-03-06 21:56:04] -_- : most are mid afternoon or late morning
[2017-03-06 21:56:28] sleger : rapidtrades: sec is in ny
[2017-03-06 21:57:12] DorianWhack-A-Moto : -_-: they close at 17:30
[2017-03-06 21:57:29] maxrdlf95 : whats going on with SEC today
[2017-03-06 21:57:29] DorianWhack-A-Moto : 30 mins away
[2017-03-06 21:57:34] sleger : they dont close at a specific hour they go home when they want
[2017-03-06 21:57:52] DorianWhack-A-Moto : office doesn't have open and close times?
[2017-03-06 21:58:02] sleger : no
[2017-03-06 21:58:26] sleger : most large office buildings like the one they are in are open 24/7 for employees
[2017-03-06 21:59:04] sleger : "DorianWhack-A-Moto: -_-: they close at 17:30" <= looks like you just guessed a random time
[2017-03-06 21:59:21] DorianWhack-A-Moto : not random time
[2017-03-06 21:59:41] DorianWhack-A-Moto : i'll ring them and ask
[2017-03-06 21:59:43] rapidtrades : last update was posted at 12:02 but I already posted a link to it at 17:50 in this chat
[2017-03-06 21:59:49] rapidtrades : so EST is not used on the website
[2017-03-06 21:59:50] zy : are we going for 1300 today or not
[2017-03-06 21:59:55] zanza : https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/5xv0at/antpool_signals_for_bitcoin_unlimited/
[2017-03-06 22:00:03] rapidtrades : zanza f off
[2017-03-06 22:00:09] gustavo7 : good on COIN clearance
[2017-03-06 22:01:20] gustavo7 : _where is the trend my friends_
[2017-03-06 22:01:32] -_- : once the price dumps $30 the orderbooks will be empty. wont take much to tank it. everyone better hope for approval
[2017-03-06 22:03:56] rapidtrades : we are nearing the finish line that's for sure
[2017-03-06 22:04:02] rapidtrades : time for this maddness to end
[2017-03-06 22:06:04] rangle : 360k rekt didnt survive to the end
[2017-03-06 22:07:43] -_- : march premium down to $32
[2017-03-06 22:07:55] -_- : must have been those 2 big rekts holding premium above 40
[2017-03-06 22:08:17] Apocalyptic : -_-: swap funding is reasonable now
[2017-03-06 22:08:21] Apocalyptic : no point in longing March atm
[2017-03-06 22:09:18] -_- : 360k must have been like a 4 btc YOLO long
[2017-03-06 22:09:36] -_- : huge leverage to get margin called in a $12 move the other way
[2017-03-06 22:09:40] -_- : something crazy like that
[2017-03-06 22:16:37] BTCDJS : Sam? You here? Wally? Greg?
[2017-03-06 22:16:47] BTCDJS : John?
[2017-03-06 22:17:17] rapidtrades : lol
[2017-03-06 22:20:24] sleger : BTCDJS: there is one left
[2017-03-06 22:21:18] BTCDJS : Arthur?
[2017-03-06 22:21:45] Ahhere : 390k
[2017-03-06 22:23:59] BitMEX_Sam : BTCDJS: What's up?
[2017-03-06 22:25:23] BTCDJS : BitMEX_Sam: can I ask you a big favour? I want to use clef right up until or near the date when they take it down. Could you send another reminder email 5 days before?
[2017-03-06 22:25:33] datboiyuan : dude
[2017-03-06 22:25:39] datboiyuan : set a calendar alert
[2017-03-06 22:25:46] datboiyuan : an alarm on your mobile
[2017-03-06 22:25:51] datboiyuan : preset a text
[2017-03-06 22:27:03] BTCDJS : Have had bad luck setting alerts. I've missed many people's birthdays because they don't go off.
[2017-03-06 22:30:13] Ahhere : 17:30 sec gone home try again tomorrow (probably gone home 20 mins ago tbh)
[2017-03-06 22:35:02] BitMEX_Sam : BTCDJS: I'm sorry, we're not in the calendar business
[2017-03-06 22:35:10] BitMEX_Sam : Please set your own alerts.
[2017-03-06 22:35:22] BTCDJS : Ahhere: will you send me an email on 1 June 2017 to remind me?
[2017-03-06 22:35:47] Ahhere : I'll tweet u
[2017-03-06 22:35:58] BTCDJS : Ok ?
[2017-03-06 22:36:07] BTCDJS : Ahhere: thanks pal
[2017-03-06 22:36:30] BTCDJS : See? It's nice to be nice
[2017-03-06 22:38:16] Ahhere : Huh?
[2017-03-06 22:38:20] haxmb : BitMEX_Sam: hey, i have a problem with your socket
[2017-03-06 22:38:32] haxmb : I think i flooded it with requests over the last ~ hour
[2017-03-06 22:38:38] haxmb : looks like im banned now :O
[2017-03-06 22:39:04] BTCDJS : haxmb: yup. Sounds about right
[2017-03-06 22:39:54] haxmb : BitMEX_Sam: could you look into lifting the ban plz?
[2017-03-06 22:41:00] BitMEX_Sam : haxmb: The ban is short-lived, initial bans are only an hour
[2017-03-06 22:41:16] BitMEX_Sam : I will look into your history.
[2017-03-06 22:42:28] haxmb : I messed up some code for re-initializing the websocket if it crashes
[2017-03-06 22:42:45] haxmb : which made it try to open new ones and reconnecting the failed ones
[2017-03-06 22:44:55] BitMEX_Sam : If the issue is fixed, email us your IP and I can lift the ban for now.
[2017-03-06 22:45:06] haxmb : email? :)
[2017-03-06 22:45:14] haxmb : sam@bitmex.com ?
[2017-03-06 22:45:33] BitMEX_Sam : support@bitmex.com
[2017-03-06 22:45:36] haxmb : ok cheers
[2017-03-06 22:46:35] haxmb : email sent
[2017-03-06 22:47:30] BTCDJS : Ahhere: when you tweet me. Include you bitcoin address so I can send you a tenner.
[2017-03-06 22:52:04] BTCDJS : How much is 10 ZWD in BTC anyway? ?
[2017-03-06 22:52:24] Hawkeye : just send 100btc , should cover it ;)
[2017-03-06 22:53:21] haxmb : Thanks BitMEX_Sam <3
[2017-03-06 22:53:57] Ahhere : BTCDJS: lol what's zwd
[2017-03-06 22:54:10] aethlios : https://www.tradingview.com/x/fjYB1PKE/ next major coin to pump (only unpumped), 70% triangle 2 year major consolidation break upwards will give a target at least 20 usd.
[2017-03-06 22:54:36] BTCDJS : Ahhere: Zimbabwe dollars ?
[2017-03-06 22:54:36] KyllingLolsson : BTCDJS: hey, these ups doesnt look too convincing and entusiastic
[2017-03-06 22:54:51] Ahhere : Nice imma b rich
[2017-03-06 22:54:58] BTCDJS : Lol
[2017-03-06 22:55:13] BTCDJS : one day it'll be worth 10£
[2017-03-06 22:55:24] BTCDJS : Just HODL
[2017-03-06 22:55:26] Tetsuo : BitMEX_Sam: Will u list Btc Unlimited after ist gets activated?
[2017-03-06 22:55:38] Ahhere : 100x that shit
[2017-03-06 22:55:45] BTCDJS : KyllingLolsson: yeah not looking good mate
[2017-03-06 22:55:56] KyllingLolsson : Im 10x short
[2017-03-06 22:55:59] Farzad : hey :D
[2017-03-06 22:56:05] BTCDJS : Hey
[2017-03-06 22:56:13] Farzad : whats up ?
[2017-03-06 22:56:29] KyllingLolsson : Farzad: hi ☺️
[2017-03-06 22:56:39] Farzad : I have closed all my positions. wont trade before ETF decision
[2017-03-06 22:57:03] Farzad : I have one week free time :D
[2017-03-06 22:57:09] Farzad : any suggestions for bot ?
[2017-03-06 22:57:20] BTCDJS : Not much. Ready for bed and such. Haven't got a leveraged position open. I recon price drops back down to 1000s
[2017-03-06 22:57:50] BTCDJS : Farzad: hmm. Let me think about it
[2017-03-06 22:57:59] BTCDJS : I'll get back to you
[2017-03-06 22:58:08] Farzad : cool
[2017-03-06 22:58:51] Edujatahy : /price
[2017-03-06 22:58:55] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1278.74 (27.87%) Bitfinex : 1278.90 (27.89%) The Woodchipper : 1277.72 (27.77%) itBit : 1280.70 (28.07%) Kraken : 1274.44 (27.44%) GDAX : 1281.00 (28.10%) SLQ : ```
[2017-03-06 22:59:18] KyllingLolsson : /sentiment
[2017-03-06 22:59:21] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 64.20 / 35.80 Daily : 51.13 / 48.87 Weekly : 53.26 / 46.74 Monthly : 49.97 / 50.03```
[2017-03-06 22:59:31] KyllingLolsson : /wall
[2017-03-06 22:59:35] trollbot : ``` ±$30 Bid|Ask liq : () $9.3m (0.00%) | $10.1m (0.00%) ```
[2017-03-06 22:59:42] Noobz : Farzad: I saw a few times peepz mention your name for a bot notification for an announcement from sec about etf
[2017-03-06 22:59:43] KyllingLolsson : Wtf
[2017-03-06 23:00:14] Farzad : Noobz: yes, but I dont think it would be useful.
[2017-03-06 23:00:34] Farzad : price will jump even before u can read my bots notification
[2017-03-06 23:00:51] Farzad : people have bots trading ETF in milliseconds
[2017-03-06 23:01:01] Farzad : u have no chance manually
[2017-03-06 23:01:35] Noobz : yup
[2017-03-06 23:01:51] Noobz : i just relaid what i saw
[2017-03-06 23:02:06] Farzad : my advice : close your positions this week
[2017-03-06 23:02:13] Farzad : it is a gamble
[2017-03-06 23:02:19] Farzad : u can make a lot
[2017-03-06 23:02:23] Farzad : or lose a lot
[2017-03-06 23:02:36] Farzad : wait 1 week
[2017-03-06 23:02:45] Farzad : until ETF news is out
[2017-03-06 23:03:18] Ahhere : Farzad: wheres the fun in that?
[2017-03-06 23:03:37] Farzad : the fun is that u wont cry next week for losing all your coins
[2017-03-06 23:03:57] sleger : Farzad: +1, people with positions now are mostly gambling
[2017-03-06 23:04:07] Ahhere : I only trade with fun coins so i never cry
[2017-03-06 23:04:14] DorianWhack-A-Moto : Farzad: why wait til next week to lose all my coins? i can do it right now
[2017-03-06 23:04:17] sleger : like rapid rekt if etf approved, and will lose less if rejected
[2017-03-06 23:04:20] Ahhere : unless someone is mean
[2017-03-06 23:04:56] freundschaft : hey there
[2017-03-06 23:05:00] freundschaft : when I use cross margin
[2017-03-06 23:05:06] freundschaft : and liquidation occurs nonetheless
[2017-03-06 23:05:11] freundschaft : the loss I will incur overall
[2017-03-06 23:05:36] freundschaft : will be much larger than in a scenario where I use isolated margin right?
[2017-03-06 23:05:51] laisee : cross == ALL your funds at stake
[2017-03-06 23:06:29] donsteep : i like that. DorianWhack-A-Moto: sounds like cross mode will help you with that
[2017-03-06 23:06:37] Ahhere : DorianWhack-A-Moto: thats the spirit
[2017-03-06 23:07:09] freundschaft : alright got it
[2017-03-06 23:07:13] freundschaft : thanks @laisee
[2017-03-06 23:07:26] sleger : gemini 1286
[2017-03-06 23:07:52] Farzad : /price
[2017-03-06 23:07:57] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1279.00 (0.02%) Bitfinex : 1279.00 (0.01%) The Woodchipper : 1278.29 (0.04%) itBit : 1280.70 (0.00%) Kraken : 1274.44 (0.00%) GDAX : 1283.20 (0.17%) SLQ : 9 mins```
[2017-03-06 23:09:35] freundschaft : can cross margin also allocate funds that are already used in an existing isolated margin?
[2017-03-06 23:10:51] CutTheLosses : /request change the name okcoin in the output of /price command -- too long string
[2017-03-06 23:11:35] Apocalyptic : something ike OKC would do
[2017-03-06 23:11:44] CutTheLosses : yup
[2017-03-06 23:11:56] CutTheLosses : 0kco1n whatever
[2017-03-06 23:12:00] CutTheLosses : jeez
[2017-03-06 23:12:10] CutTheLosses : owned
[2017-03-06 23:12:21] CutTheLosses : 0kc01n
[2017-03-06 23:12:29] CutTheLosses : 0 k c 0 1 n
[2017-03-06 23:14:03] Farzad : CutTheLosses: it is bitmex auto filter. :D
[2017-03-06 23:14:20] CutTheLosses : yep i know, funny guys working here
[2017-03-06 23:14:23] Farzad : also we have no /request command !
[2017-03-06 23:14:27] Farzad : it is /suggest
[2017-03-06 23:14:35] CutTheLosses : oh ok -- sorry
[2017-03-06 23:14:39] Farzad : np
[2017-03-06 23:14:56] BitMEX_Sam : Farzad: Just use OKC
[2017-03-06 23:15:24] Farzad : OKC0IN
[2017-03-06 23:15:25] CutTheLosses : /suggest change the name the woodchipper in the output of /price command -- too long string + index price? + mean price?
[2017-03-06 23:15:25] trollbot : Thanks! got your suggestion buddy :D
[2017-03-06 23:15:41] Farzad : 0KC0IN
[2017-03-06 23:15:45] Farzad : lol
[2017-03-06 23:15:52] CutTheLosses : owned too :-P
[2017-03-06 23:15:58] Farzad : BitMEX_Sam: u have filtered all forms of OKC
[2017-03-06 23:16:18] BitMEX_Sam : Except `OKC`
[2017-03-06 23:16:19] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Sam: can u remove tru.mp from banned words? we cant share any news with the word in the url
[2017-03-06 23:16:28] BitMEX_Sam : rapidtrades: Trump has already been removed
[2017-03-06 23:16:28] Farzad : BitMEX_Sam: OK ;)
[2017-03-06 23:16:45] Farzad : rapidtrades: +1
[2017-03-06 23:16:50] rapidtrades : trump
[2017-03-06 23:16:55] CutTheLosses : trump
[2017-03-06 23:16:56] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Sam: ok tnx
[2017-03-06 23:16:58] CutTheLosses : OMGZ
[2017-03-06 23:17:00] Ahhere : Trump
[2017-03-06 23:17:03] rustiv : TRUMP
[2017-03-06 23:17:04] sleger : trump
[2017-03-06 23:17:07] sleger : its so much fun
[2017-03-06 23:17:10] sleger : more idiots
[2017-03-06 23:17:11] Farzad : trump 2020
[2017-03-06 23:17:12] ross : trump
[2017-03-06 23:17:16] Farzad : VOTE TRUMP
[2017-03-06 23:17:20] Ahhere : Drumpf
[2017-03-06 23:17:21] CutTheLosses : LoL
[2017-03-06 23:17:30] ross : Drumpf
[2017-03-06 23:17:34] ross : doesnt work for me
[2017-03-06 23:17:34] zy : Trump 2020: make america again
[2017-03-06 23:17:37] ross : Drumpf
[2017-03-06 23:21:41] laisee : Trump2020 : MAGA AGAIN
[2017-03-06 23:22:30] InvalidUser : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WoFvwW1T0fA.
[2017-03-06 23:22:56] InvalidUser : Trump is a fuktard that will make Bitcoin great\
[2017-03-06 23:23:13] InvalidUser : Trumps wants to default on USD GO TRUMP GO!!
[2017-03-06 23:26:42] sleger : you can dream
[2017-03-06 23:26:45] sleger : but it would be awesome
[2017-03-06 23:26:59] Ahhere : InvalidUser: lol was expecting that video to be a trump speech
[2017-03-06 23:27:05] laisee : Trump is a fantastic producer of Volatility in markets.
[2017-03-06 23:27:18] Ahhere : nobody produces volatility like trump. believe me
[2017-03-06 23:27:33] InvalidUser : Ahhere: Kek no one si that mean
[2017-03-06 23:27:33] mtourig3 : breaking 1300 soon
[2017-03-06 23:27:36] laisee : He's the best, beleive him!
[2017-03-06 23:27:57] Ahhere : they took our jerbs trump!
[2017-03-06 23:28:29] laisee : 2 lies in every Trump sentence. productive!
[2017-03-06 23:29:00] Ahhere : summary after every sentence. helpful.
[2017-03-06 23:30:40] InvalidUser : Just so you know all school reports will be 140 char or under.
[2017-03-06 23:30:51] InvalidUser : Be presidential.
[2017-03-06 23:31:14] laisee : making Anericans Grade Again!
[2017-03-06 23:33:19] InvalidUser : Grade as in fill in the pot holes of the crumbling infrastructure.
[2017-03-06 23:33:56] degen : wow someone got margin called for 390k on that fake news? dang
[2017-03-06 23:34:15] rapidtrades : its only 'fake' until its confrimed
[2017-03-06 23:34:31] degen : rapidtrades: it was fake
[2017-03-06 23:34:37] rapidtrades : as our leader Trump says 'the leaks are real but the news is FAKE'
[2017-03-06 23:34:40] mtourig3 : degen: what fake news?
[2017-03-06 23:35:06] degen : that the etf was denied earlier. people got rekt over that. RIP
[2017-03-06 23:37:02] rapidtrades : does anyone know how to pull old addresses from electrum?
[2017-03-06 23:37:13] rapidtrades : it only shows recent
[2017-03-06 23:37:31] wurstgelee : looking ready to pop
[2017-03-06 23:38:42] startChat : rapidtrades: isn
[2017-03-06 23:38:48] startChat : there a addresses tab
[2017-03-06 23:38:55] startChat : isn't there*
[2017-03-06 23:39:53] ross : this could very nearly go any direction
[2017-03-06 23:39:54] rapidtrades : ;earn to read bra
[2017-03-06 23:40:03] startChat : rapidtrades: how
[2017-03-06 23:40:34] rapidtrades : https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/5xwd8p/exchanges_should_start_trading_insurance_options/
[2017-03-06 23:40:37] rapidtrades : this is good
[2017-03-06 23:40:48] rapidtrades : let's try it with bitfinex first
[2017-03-06 23:40:57] oz : /wall
[2017-03-06 23:41:18] oz : hullo?
[2017-03-06 23:41:28] Farzad : /wall
[2017-03-06 23:41:39] Farzad : bot is dead :(
[2017-03-06 23:41:43] Farzad : /joke
[2017-03-06 23:41:44] trollbot : ``` I saw a sign that made me shit my pants It said "bathroom closed".```
[2017-03-06 23:41:49] oz : /price
[2017-03-06 23:41:54] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1279.72 (27.97%) Bitfinex : 1279.90 (27.99%) The Woodchipper : 1278.82 (27.88%) itBit : 1282.71 (28.27%) Kraken : 1274.90 (27.49%) GDAX : 1284.78 (28.48%) SLQ : ```
[2017-03-06 23:41:57] oz : lol wtf
[2017-03-06 23:41:58] oz : /wall
[2017-03-06 23:42:11] oz : /sentiment
[2017-03-06 23:42:14] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 27.28 / 72.72 Daily : 51.17 / 48.84 Weekly : 53.20 / 46.80 Monthly : 50.00 / 50.01```
[2017-03-06 23:42:17] oz : whatever
[2017-03-06 23:42:21] Farzad : if one of 4 exchanges do not return the data, it wont be showed
[2017-03-06 23:42:33] Farzad : thats why it doesnt work
[2017-03-06 23:42:34] oz : huh ok
[2017-03-06 23:42:35] oz : ty
[2017-03-06 23:42:54] Farzad : np
[2017-03-06 23:43:26] Farzad : /wall
[2017-03-06 23:43:57] Farzad : someone'a API is broken! lol
[2017-03-06 23:51:05] Tetsuo : https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/5xugxg/circle_is_building_a_payment_system_on_ethereum/
[2017-03-06 23:54:12] sleger : thats not a news
[2017-03-06 23:54:19] sleger : everyone is building everything on ethereum
[2017-03-06 23:54:27] sleger : there, shortcut
[2017-03-06 23:54:46] BitMEX_Sam : Time for a DAO that builds DAOs
[2017-03-06 23:55:05] sleger : dont have any problem with dao
[2017-03-06 23:55:16] sleger : then majority choose to save dummies
[2017-03-06 23:55:24] sleger : thats how modern societies work anyways
[2017-03-06 23:56:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: sell 1000 @ 0.015490
[2017-03-07 00:01:49] hmmmYea : BitMEX_Sam: wings?
[2017-03-07 00:02:00] BitMEX_Sam : hmmmYea: Red Bull?
[2017-03-07 00:02:33] hmmmYea : BitMEX_Sam: wings is a dao that builds daos
[2017-03-07 00:02:42] BitMEX_Sam : Hah, figures.
[2017-03-07 00:02:50] BitMEX_Sam : Not surprised whatsoever.
[2017-03-07 00:03:08] BitMEX_Sam : I think the biggest winner in the Altcoin craze of 2013/14 was the guy who did that automated altcoin creator for pay
[2017-03-07 00:03:09] hmmmYea : i know..... i do not own any tokens...
[2017-03-07 00:03:58] tb : i got redirected here after clef login https://www.bitmex.com/app/clefEOL but the link only shows a loading bar that doesn't load
[2017-03-07 00:07:09] BitMEX_Sam : tb: Thanks, our apologies
[2017-03-07 00:07:20] BitMEX_Sam : That is simply a notification page that informs you about Clef's impending shutdown on 6/6
[2017-03-07 00:07:29] BitMEX_Sam : Go to https://www.bitmex.com/app/account before 6/6 to disable Clef.
[2017-03-07 00:08:15] spice : /rekt
[2017-03-07 00:08:16] trollbot : ``` 20 hours, 3 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 52377 @ 1269.51 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:```
[2017-03-07 00:08:16] trollbot : ``` 20 hours, 3 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 50000 @ 1269.19 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:```
[2017-03-07 00:08:16] trollbot : ``` 3 hours, 23 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 390000 @ 1300.55 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire:```
[2017-03-07 00:10:38] mtourig3 : wow 390k
[2017-03-07 00:11:36] Ovan : Yeah, lost to fake news as well...that's got to sting
[2017-03-07 00:22:00] sleger : ETF approved !
[2017-03-07 00:22:04] sleger : can someone lost 4k again ?
[2017-03-07 00:22:25] sleger : looks like that dummy alejandro got rekt for good, awesome
[2017-03-07 00:22:49] Apocalyptic : he was the guy arguing with rapid, right ?
[2017-03-07 00:26:25] CutTheLosses : when do the fireworks start?
[2017-03-07 00:27:37] rustiv : ~15min
[2017-03-07 00:28:03] CutTheLosses : perfect
[2017-03-07 00:28:13] CutTheLosses : was a bit bored
[2017-03-07 00:29:17] -_- : damn btc going up
[2017-03-07 00:29:26] -_- : must not fomo. must wait for dip
[2017-03-07 00:32:08] sleger : -_-: gemini is at 1287
[2017-03-07 00:33:38] -_- : damn must be ETF insiders buying
[2017-03-07 00:33:50] Apocalyptic : or DMMs
[2017-03-07 00:34:00] CutTheLosses : bad actor
[2017-03-07 00:34:28] Brazilian Goat : /joke
[2017-03-07 00:34:30] trollbot : ``` What is the difference between an irish wedding and an irish funeral? One fewer drunk person. Edit: Fewer, not less ```
[2017-03-07 00:34:43] sleger : CutTheLosses: are you short and scared too ?
[2017-03-07 00:34:50] Farzad : /price
[2017-03-07 00:34:54] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1278.32 (27.83%) Bitfinex : 1279.50 (27.95%) The Woodchipper : 1279.87 (27.99%) itBit : 1281.58 (28.16%) Kraken : 1279.69 (27.97%) GDAX : 1284.86 (28.49%) SLQ : ```
[2017-03-07 00:35:31] Brazilian Goat : /joke
[2017-03-07 00:35:32] trollbot : ``` What rock group has four men that don't sing? Mount Rushmore.```
[2017-03-07 00:35:35] CutTheLosses : sleger: i am long! you?
[2017-03-07 00:35:55] sleger : I am flort
[2017-03-07 00:36:02] sleger : shong
[2017-03-07 00:36:11] laisee : shlong?
[2017-03-07 00:36:16] CutTheLosses : is it chinese?
[2017-03-07 00:36:46] sleger : no we are in the english trollbox here
[2017-03-07 00:36:56] sleger : chinese only convo with rekt
[2017-03-07 00:37:33] Apocalyptic : CutTheLosses: I suspect sleger is as wel
[2017-03-07 00:37:44] sleger : long ?
[2017-03-07 00:37:49] Apocalyptic : yes
[2017-03-07 00:38:04] Brazilian Goat : shong
[2017-03-07 00:38:05] sleger : i am long ethusd
[2017-03-07 00:38:13] sleger : i am long xbtcny vs xbtusd
[2017-03-07 00:38:35] sleger : then i have my etf decision trade which i will only announce after the outcome
[2017-03-07 00:38:43] CutTheLosses : interesting
[2017-03-07 00:38:51] CutTheLosses : some complexity here
[2017-03-07 00:39:02] Apocalyptic : sleger: you don't even have a hedge short ?
[2017-03-07 00:39:24] sleger : all my btc are hedged
[2017-03-07 00:39:45] sleger : im not gambling the sec decision over which i have no control
[2017-03-07 00:40:07] Farzad_IRC : cool IRC :D
[2017-03-07 00:40:27] CutTheLosses : welcome to the interwebz
[2017-03-07 00:40:29] sleger : so all in usd with no pure directional trade (besides ethusd)
[2017-03-07 00:41:20] sleger : and my ethusd has nothing to do with the etf
[2017-03-07 00:41:26] sleger : i've had it for a while and for a while
[2017-03-07 00:41:34] Apocalyptic : I'm considering shutting down my MM
[2017-03-07 00:41:36] Farzad_IRC : sleger: even if u r hedged u should make sure u have enough margin. otherwise one side may get liquidated.
[2017-03-07 00:41:58] Farzad : Apocalyptic: u have a MM ?
[2017-03-07 00:42:06] Apocalyptic : short of having a PDF-paser a la lockhedge I'm going to get torn to pieces
[2017-03-07 00:42:07] Farzad : Apocalyptic: profitable ?
[2017-03-07 00:42:10] sleger : i dont think you understand the definition of a hedge @Farzad_IRC
[2017-03-07 00:42:34] Farzad : sleger: really ? OK then, teach me
[2017-03-07 00:42:34] CutTheLosses : i am thinking about converting some BTC into silver
[2017-03-07 00:42:35] Apocalyptic : Farzad: Guess I you wouldn't be here otherwise
[2017-03-07 00:42:38] CutTheLosses : ultimate hedge
[2017-03-07 00:42:56] Brazilian Goat : /rekt
[2017-03-07 00:42:56] trollbot : ``` 20 hours, 38 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 52377 @ 1269.51 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:```
[2017-03-07 00:42:56] trollbot : ``` 20 hours, 38 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 50000 @ 1269.19 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:```
[2017-03-07 00:42:56] trollbot : ``` 3 hours, 57 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 390000 @ 1300.55 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire:```
[2017-03-07 00:42:56] trollbot : ``` 3 hours, 57 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 150000 @ 1304.02 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:```
[2017-03-07 00:43:03] Farzad : Apocalyptic: I have not succeeded in making a profitable MM bot yet :D
[2017-03-07 00:43:14] Apocalyptic : Farzad: yeah you told me last time
[2017-03-07 00:43:15] sleger : Farzad: if you have 1btc and you sell 1250 contracts here, you (almost) cant get liquidated
[2017-03-07 00:43:49] Farzad : sleger: and what about the other side ?
[2017-03-07 00:43:53] laisee : Farzad: sleger is long && short for ETF decision.
[2017-03-07 00:44:35] laisee : prolly his greatest risk is counterparty, not BTC price.
[2017-03-07 00:44:35] sleger : Farzad: you said liquidated thats not liquidation
[2017-03-07 00:44:58] cryptonoob : /price
[2017-03-07 00:44:59] Farzad : Apocalyptic: I think your bots are not real MM by definition. you have trading bots who place limit orders, thats not MM.
[2017-03-07 00:45:02] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1278.92 (0.05%) Bitfinex : 1279.30 (-0.02%) The Woodchipper : 1279.69 (-0.01%) itBit : 1281.99 (0.03%) Kraken : 1274.45 (-0.41%) GDAX : 1282.89 (-0.15%) SLQ : 10 mins```
[2017-03-07 00:45:20] Apocalyptic : Farzad: I beg your pardon ?
[2017-03-07 00:45:35] sleger : Apocalyptic: he said "I think your bots are not real MM by definition. you have trading bots who place limit orders, thats not MM."
[2017-03-07 00:45:51] Apocalyptic : ty sleger
[2017-03-07 00:46:05] Farzad : Apocalyptic: MM means u make money by spread and commission, without caring about market direction. is it what you are doing ?
[2017-03-07 00:46:30] Apocalyptic : yes, I quote bids & asks at every moment in time
[2017-03-07 00:46:38] Apocalyptic : pretty sure that's what an MM is
[2017-03-07 00:46:56] Apocalyptic : I'm wondering where you got "you have trading bots who place limit orders, thats not MM" from
[2017-03-07 00:47:54] Farzad : Apocalyptic: MM should not have almost equal buy and sell orders to process, so they are not imposed to market movements, but we do not have enough liquidity here for that.
[2017-03-07 00:48:13] Farzad : should have *
[2017-03-07 00:48:23] Apocalyptic : Farzad: you seem to know more than me then
[2017-03-07 00:49:50] Farzad : Apocalyptic: No, I am talking about perfect MM conditions.
[2017-03-07 00:50:07] Farzad : which u r not exposed to trends.
[2017-03-07 00:50:23] sleger : your definition is a bit extreme
[2017-03-07 00:50:33] Farzad : the problem of MM is that u always trade against the trends
[2017-03-07 00:50:37] sleger : im sure many pro hft firms wouldnt qualify as mm by your definition
[2017-03-07 00:50:43] j8 : you're saying a market maker can only exist in a market that's already made
[2017-03-07 00:51:03] -_- : nice little okc quarterly pump
[2017-03-07 00:51:11] sleger : i'm just going to post here this ... :
[2017-03-07 00:51:16] tb : "the problem of MM is that u always trade against the trends" -only if you're dumb
[2017-03-07 00:51:28] sleger : " Farzad: Apocalyptic: I have not succeeded in making a profitable MM bot yet ?"
[2017-03-07 00:51:58] Apocalyptic : j8: hey, you're going to quote through the news ?
[2017-03-07 00:52:21] j8 : what do you think
[2017-03-07 00:52:23] Farzad : tb: well, if u can predict the trends, there is no need to be a market maker. go and trade the trend !
[2017-03-07 00:52:40] lockhedge : Farzad: over a long enough time period, there is no trend. i'm not using dynamic hedging for my bot, so it's always trading "against the trend"
[2017-03-07 00:52:49] Apocalyptic : j8: my guess is not really, or with some insane spread
[2017-03-07 00:53:15] Apocalyptic : at least we'll have lockhedge quotin
[2017-03-07 00:53:16] j8 : sure asks at $2000
[2017-03-07 00:53:22] sleger : "lockhedge: Farzad: over a long enough time period, there is no trend"
[2017-03-07 00:53:30] sleger : have you looked at any equity index ?
[2017-03-07 00:53:34] sleger : heard of inflation ?
[2017-03-07 00:53:34] Apocalyptic : 20% spread ftw
[2017-03-07 00:55:13] tb : its so fun
[2017-03-07 00:55:17] tb : 10 million notional here
[2017-03-07 00:55:30] tb : probably 7m+ overleveraged
[2017-03-07 00:55:36] Farzad : Apocalyptic: 20% spread is like $250 right now !
[2017-03-07 00:55:40] tb : just need to wait till decision and watch the rekts
[2017-03-07 00:55:49] lockhedge : sleger: i said "long enough time period" ;)
[2017-03-07 00:56:08] sleger : lockhedge: look at any equity over a long enough time period
[2017-03-07 00:56:09] Apocalyptic : Farzad: yeah, insane isn't it
[2017-03-07 00:57:16] Farzad : Apocalyptic: u r kidding, right ? if u set 20% spread, your orders would never get filled.
[2017-03-07 00:57:49] Apocalyptic : in current market conditions sure
[2017-03-07 00:58:07] Apocalyptic : in the minutes following the ETF decision they might
[2017-03-07 00:58:21] sleger : sell at 1500 buy back at 2000
[2017-03-07 00:58:43] Farzad : Apocalyptic: sure, but what about normal market conditions ?
[2017-03-07 00:59:40] Apocalyptic : well in normal market conditions you quote a reasonably normal spread
[2017-03-07 00:59:48] mtourig3 : Apocalyptic: 20% spread on what?
[2017-03-07 01:00:37] sleger : reasonable is 1$ or 5% (bottom feeder)
[2017-03-07 01:00:46] sleger : ?
[2017-03-07 01:00:50] sleger : *5$
[2017-03-07 01:03:22] zy : so the price is stablising now?
[2017-03-07 01:04:10] sleger : btw how do you guys feel that there is no leverage reduction ?
[2017-03-07 01:04:15] sleger : zy: yes, sure
[2017-03-07 01:04:28] Apocalyptic : sleger: disappointed
[2017-03-07 01:04:58] sleger : nobody will really hold a winning position through the announcement
[2017-03-07 01:06:12] rustiv : /pol/ predicts ETF approval
[2017-03-07 01:06:19] rustiv : /pol/ is always right I heard
[2017-03-07 01:06:31] sleger : *always*
[2017-03-07 01:07:29] sleger : seems like we have new batches of 200 dummies every day now. rustiv probably part of the last one, or the one from yesterday
[2017-03-07 01:08:04] rustiv : i came with de batch from december 16
[2017-03-07 01:08:25] rustiv : still alive and doing good
[2017-03-07 01:09:09] sleger : all good things come to an end
[2017-03-07 01:09:13] sleger : bad ones too
[2017-03-07 01:11:06] Bitcoingirl : SegWit = scam
[2017-03-07 01:11:08] sleger : how do i easily get 1hr or 1d banned from polo trollbox ?
[2017-03-07 01:11:32] Apocalyptic : sleger: try linking to a competing exchange
[2017-03-07 01:11:34] sleger : i've never been banned yet, feeling like im wasting my points not being banned
[2017-03-07 01:11:38] Apocalyptic : bonus with referall links
[2017-03-07 01:11:42] sleger : Apocalyptic: something more subtle
[2017-03-07 01:11:48] rangle : just put in a "____ coin to the moon"
[2017-03-07 01:11:51] sleger : or maybe just name it
[2017-03-07 01:12:02] sleger : if i name an exchange with no link ?
[2017-03-07 01:12:16] sleger : for instance, oh i bought xyz at a great price on bitmex ?
[2017-03-07 01:12:29] Apocalyptic : worth a shot
[2017-03-07 01:12:30] micmix : sleger: imho they should have decreased leverage to 50x long time ago. 100x is insane with current volatility but they don't want to lose on fees
[2017-03-07 01:12:36] sleger : I said earlier : lots of buy on eth on bitmex (was true) and nothing
[2017-03-07 01:12:44] Apocalyptic : micmix: can't agree more
[2017-03-07 01:12:47] sleger : micmix: yes but then no position will win
[2017-03-07 01:12:54] sleger : on etf decision, immediate ADL
[2017-03-07 01:12:56] Apocalyptic : but even 50x for the announcement is better than nothing at all
[2017-03-07 01:13:07] sleger : so you cant even gamble, trade or hedge ....
[2017-03-07 01:13:12] sleger : more than maybe 50$ move
[2017-03-07 01:13:30] micmix : 100x is good marketing though, and marketing beats everything
[2017-03-07 01:13:41] sleger : you can have 100x but not this week
[2017-03-07 01:13:45] micmix : I know, everyone will be adled here
[2017-03-07 01:13:56] lockhedge : imho 50x or 20x wouldn't change a lot in extreme scenarios, only concentrate liqs at a closer price
[2017-03-07 01:14:15] sleger : lockhedge: maintenance margin would be extremely different are you crazy ????
[2017-03-07 01:14:21] sleger : right now it is 0.5% !!!!
[2017-03-07 01:14:36] sleger : with 10x you can make it 7.5% for instance
[2017-03-07 01:14:41] sleger : that is 15x more
[2017-03-07 01:14:45] lockhedge : agree maintenance margin is a problem, but they can't change it easily
[2017-03-07 01:14:53] sleger : yes they can
[2017-03-07 01:15:05] sleger : 50x leverage ,maintenance from 0.5 to 1.5%
[2017-03-07 01:15:09] sleger : that is 3x more
[2017-03-07 01:15:10] Apocalyptic : Sam hinted he would consider it
[2017-03-07 01:15:24] sleger : leverage 20x, maintenance 3% or more, that is so much better
[2017-03-07 01:15:34] sleger : Apocalyptic: if they havent yet its too late
[2017-03-07 01:15:47] sleger : decision could have been today
[2017-03-07 01:15:58] Apocalyptic : sleger: I know
[2017-03-07 01:16:30] Apocalyptic : maybe if we're lucky they'll do it in the middle of the week
[2017-03-07 01:16:48] sleger : that would just be stupid
[2017-03-07 01:16:53] sleger : why wait so long
[2017-03-07 01:16:59] sleger : they just shouldnt do it now
[2017-03-07 01:17:06] sleger : it was earlier or never
[2017-03-07 01:17:22] sleger : anyways, trade accordingly
[2017-03-07 01:17:31] Apocalyptic : it the decision is announced Friday afternoon I would rather had it done late than never
[2017-03-07 01:18:32] Apocalyptic : however illogical that may be
[2017-03-07 01:21:30] sleger : going 50x long and short with 0.5% maint margin might make sense
[2017-03-07 01:21:41] sleger : there is probably no insurance fund left for btc anyways
[2017-03-07 01:29:06] promanner : DAMN
[2017-03-07 01:29:07] promanner : https://twitter.com/rogerkver/status/838922395545034752
[2017-03-07 01:30:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: sell 1742 @ 0.015280
[2017-03-07 01:30:12] Apocalyptic : so he did it
[2017-03-07 01:30:27] Apocalyptic : he's gonna pay miners extra btc from his pocket
[2017-03-07 01:30:50] rustiv : he really wants to be the rothschild of bitcoin
[2017-03-07 01:30:59] -_- : eth dumping
[2017-03-07 01:37:05] DorianWhack-A-Moto : promanner: 110% block rewards? lolwut?
[2017-03-07 01:37:44] promanner : It's subsidized
[2017-03-07 01:37:48] promanner : to support Bitcoin Unlimited
[2017-03-07 01:37:54] promanner : This will be bad for the ETF
[2017-03-07 01:38:09] promanner : Further discord within the bitcoin community
[2017-03-07 01:39:03] reyno : this is the most stable I've seen the price for a while
[2017-03-07 01:39:24] reyno : literally all day its not done anythinh
[2017-03-07 01:41:22] DorianWhack-A-Moto : Ver is literally trying to bribe miners to go with BU. What a dick.
[2017-03-07 01:41:27] sleger : roger ver saving rapid ? I dont see it happening
[2017-03-07 01:42:29] sleger : i cant get banned from polo
[2017-03-07 01:42:40] sleger : i mentioned 2 other exchanges
[2017-03-07 01:42:48] sleger : i said eth too cheap good buyzzz