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BitMEX disabled their archive after the DDOS attack so I have decided to make my mirror publicly available.

Well now, a few days after I made this mirror available to the public, the original archive from BitMEX is online again.
But since it is still limited (neutered to the last few hundred messages) I will keep my FULL mirror alive.

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[2017-03-06 19:33:23] Rado : buying the dip worked again
[2017-03-06 19:33:26] sleger : the jump in mark is the preserve of next funding
[2017-03-06 19:33:32] Zen Trader : lots of peeps buying btc this week at our local atm ... sign of the times
[2017-03-06 19:33:33] Rado : I wish I can buy bigger size on H17
[2017-03-06 19:33:45] -_- : Rado: what's holding you back
[2017-03-06 19:33:51] Noobz : rapidtrades: it's the only accelerator I know. I have only used it for incoming tx and it seemed to work for that.
[2017-03-06 19:34:00] Rado : -_-: liquidity
[2017-03-06 19:34:00] Zen Trader : I dont think 1335 by today / tomorrow mabye after a correction totally not impossible
[2017-03-06 19:34:25] Rado : if you buy 100k at market price will go up at least $5
[2017-03-06 19:34:36] mtourig3 : 1000 btc buy wall
[2017-03-06 19:34:38] Rado : also there is a $2 spread on top of that
[2017-03-06 19:34:45] mtourig3 : stamp[
[2017-03-06 19:34:48] -_- : but price just dumped to 1301
[2017-03-06 19:35:10] Rado : -_-: and you could not buy 100k at 1301
[2017-03-06 19:35:15] Rado : that's my point
[2017-03-06 19:35:38] mtourig3 : she about to pop
[2017-03-06 19:35:40] -_- : but buy 100k at 1305-1307 instead of buying big 1313-1317 now
[2017-03-06 19:36:05] Rado : -_-: you don't seem to get my point
[2017-03-06 19:36:12] Rado : I am not saying I can not make money
[2017-03-06 19:36:17] Rado : just I can't make more of it
[2017-03-06 19:37:25] -_- : price is moving too much for 1 person to put 100k walls on both sides of the price
[2017-03-06 19:37:31] -_- : at all times
[2017-03-06 19:37:59] -_- : anyways short swap now to get that sweet sweet funding
[2017-03-06 19:38:00] Rado : There was an MM that was quoting 25k before
[2017-03-06 19:38:02] Rado : much better
[2017-03-06 19:38:13] Rado : I would love it if there is on that does 50k
[2017-03-06 19:38:40] ferpozie : guess its better to use as low leverage and if you get a better or good price gain, swipe to a larger leverage and take profit?
[2017-03-06 19:39:11] j8 : especially with the price increase, the btc notional quoted is way down
[2017-03-06 19:39:13] Rado : ferpozie: leverage doesn't increase your profit
[2017-03-06 19:40:52] ferpozie : Rado: what does leverage do? Itought based on the fact you can trade with 100 times more coins, you can make profit on the supposed larger trade which will increase your profit. Please correct me if I am wrong?
[2017-03-06 19:41:11] -_- : profit is based on position size (contracts)
[2017-03-06 19:41:19] rapidtrades : blockchain.info doesn't show estimate time anymore? none of the other sites seem to either
[2017-03-06 19:41:24] -_- : if you increase leverage from 5x to 20x you still are at same profit
[2017-03-06 19:41:30] Rado : ferpozie: you can't change your size after the trade was done
[2017-03-06 19:41:41] Rado : leverage just decreases your margin requirement
[2017-03-06 19:42:00] shapeshifter : anyone knows if theres a specific time of the day when SEC makes announcements?
[2017-03-06 19:42:18] micmix : rapidtrades: https://bitcoinfees.21.co/ shows estimated time based on fee
[2017-03-06 19:44:06] rapidtrades : micmix: seems wrong
[2017-03-06 19:44:11] micmix : anything below 100 sat/byte is pretty much dead
[2017-03-06 19:44:23] Rado : I actually think we will have a leak on the weekend on the ETF decision
[2017-03-06 19:44:23] rapidtrades : i sent with 80-100b fee and nothing in 12 hrs
[2017-03-06 19:44:43] j8 : it's an estimate.
[2017-03-06 19:44:56] j8 : and it's probably changed since you sent it
[2017-03-06 19:45:27] micmix : rapidtrades: need at least 120 sat/byte for normal conf time
[2017-03-06 19:45:54] micmix : bitcoin is getting expensive in trans cost as well
[2017-03-06 19:46:06] rapidtrades : so when
[2017-03-06 19:46:24] Hawkeye : next yr it should be done
[2017-03-06 19:46:28] j8 : 6 to inf blocks
[2017-03-06 19:46:35] micmix : check your tx on blockchain.info and tell me sat/byte @rapidtrades
[2017-03-06 19:47:04] rapidtrades : i told u, one is 80b other 101b
[2017-03-06 19:47:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `DASH7D`: buy 69 @ 0.037067
[2017-03-06 19:47:22] sleger : im gonna send a lot of spam transactions at 81b and 102b heheheh
[2017-03-06 19:47:29] startChat : how many satoshis/ btye
[2017-03-06 19:47:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `DASH7D`: buy 100 @ 0.037205
[2017-03-06 19:47:41] rapidtrades : startChat: are u stupid
[2017-03-06 19:47:53] startChat : rapidtrades: yes.
[2017-03-06 19:47:53] micmix : rapidtrades: 80 sat/b is dead until mempool clears
[2017-03-06 19:48:02] rapidtrades : tnx
[2017-03-06 19:48:03] sleger : he gonna ask how long
[2017-03-06 19:48:08] rapidtrades : and 101? @micmix
[2017-03-06 19:48:39] sleger : 101 can be in a few hours or never
[2017-03-06 19:48:47] sleger : depending on new transactions incoming
[2017-03-06 19:48:47] micmix : 102 should be 20-30 hours
[2017-03-06 19:48:55] rapidtrades : micmix: ok
[2017-03-06 19:49:09] micmix : if someone doesn't spam some more
[2017-03-06 19:49:14] jho : Anyone try to research outcomes of SEC decisions so close to a deadline? Have to assume there is some bias at this point.
[2017-03-06 19:49:14] rapidtrades : ur site says 19h max so w/e
[2017-03-06 19:49:24] j8 : so many units for fee rate.. i'm gonna go with bits per bit
[2017-03-06 19:49:37] startChat : rapidtrades: what wallet u send from
[2017-03-06 19:49:58] rapidtrades : this is a f joke, 20 cents plus fee and waiting for +12 hrs now
[2017-03-06 19:50:28] Rado : rapidtrades: because your are cheap
[2017-03-06 19:50:38] cg : maybe we'll see some strong support for BU soon and then we can have low fees again in as short as a few weeks potentially
[2017-03-06 19:50:39] Rado : send 0.75
[2017-03-06 19:50:40] micmix : sleger: btw, did you make your pre-announcement trade?
[2017-03-06 19:50:53] sleger : micmix: some yes
[2017-03-06 19:50:53] -_- : rapid just upset they gonna get margin called before being able to add more margin to their short position
[2017-03-06 19:51:09] micmix : sleger: nice
[2017-03-06 19:51:24] Rado : sleger: what is the trade?
[2017-03-06 19:51:37] sleger : Rado: it is unknown until after its realized
[2017-03-06 19:51:49] Kobe : -_-: What's a short swap?
[2017-03-06 19:53:48] -_- : Perpetual Swap
[2017-03-06 19:53:50] -_- : XBT
[2017-03-06 19:53:58] -_- : shorters get paid 0.2289% in 6 minutes
[2017-03-06 19:55:34] rapidtrades : micmix: so do i have a shot to have this included in next block? or will I keep getting leap-frogged by new transactions with higher fee?
[2017-03-06 19:56:45] j8 : it's a pool, not a queue.. you don't have priority based on how long you've waited
[2017-03-06 19:57:03] micmix : rapidtrades: higher fees get higher priority. you have to use 130-140 sat/b at least
[2017-03-06 19:57:23] rapidtrades : j8: h8er
[2017-03-06 19:57:28] rapidtrades : micmix: too late for that now
[2017-03-06 19:57:36] rapidtrades : wallet said 5m to 5 hrs when i sent
[2017-03-06 19:57:48] micmix : everyone wants to sell their coins while they are hot
[2017-03-06 19:58:16] sleger : 0kc usd has max transaction fee set to 0.0005 lol
[2017-03-06 19:58:19] rapidtrades : micmix: how do i accelerate
[2017-03-06 19:58:23] sleger : they dont want people to withdraw
[2017-03-06 19:58:27] sleger : pedal faster
[2017-03-06 19:58:44] rapidtrades : sleger: ur not funny
[2017-03-06 19:58:50] sleger : but you are
[2017-03-06 19:58:52] micmix : rapidtrades: try https://www.viabtc.com/tools/txaccelerator/ for 101 sat/b trans
[2017-03-06 19:58:54] Dynamix : long boys ;)
[2017-03-06 19:59:04] rapidtrades : micmix: tried, limit hit
[2017-03-06 19:59:27] micmix : then you are stuck if your wallet doesn't support RBF
[2017-03-06 20:00:06] Dynamix : Panic ? No panic
[2017-03-06 20:00:06] Dynamix : Panic ? No panic ...
[2017-03-06 20:00:11] startChat : here you can use visa card. https://pushtx.btc.com/
[2017-03-06 20:00:27] -_- : lol
[2017-03-06 20:00:37] rustiv : wow interface locked and massiv buy on XBTUSD
[2017-03-06 20:00:37] startChat : :)
[2017-03-06 20:00:49] rustiv : that was not nice
[2017-03-06 20:00:52] sleger : rustiv: its called funding
[2017-03-06 20:00:57] cg : funding
[2017-03-06 20:01:12] rustiv : no trading while funding?
[2017-03-06 20:01:20] sleger : only for VIP
[2017-03-06 20:01:29] -_- : 3-4 second trading gets suspended for
[2017-03-06 20:01:29] sleger : you need a green username
[2017-03-06 20:01:45] micmix : or micmix username
[2017-03-06 20:01:51] sleger : keep dreaming
[2017-03-06 20:01:59] rustiv : how to get there?
[2017-03-06 20:02:00] rustiv : big bags?
[2017-03-06 20:02:13] sleger : if you have to ask ...
[2017-03-06 20:02:14] Rado : rustiv: send me 1 BTC
[2017-03-06 20:02:22] Rado : I will make it happen for you
[2017-03-06 20:02:30] rustiv : rofl
[2017-03-06 20:02:32] rustiv : shady af
[2017-03-06 20:02:35] rustiv : ^^
[2017-03-06 20:02:39] sleger : yes he's blue
[2017-03-06 20:02:41] sleger : dont trust him
[2017-03-06 20:03:12] -_- : if BTC going to be boring till ETF decision it is gonna be a long work
[2017-03-06 20:03:14] micmix : rustiv: take Arthur out for drinks and ask nicely
[2017-03-06 20:03:21] -_- : long work week*
[2017-03-06 20:03:43] odieoh : I don't think there is
[2017-03-06 20:03:46] Hawkeye : Someone push btc off the stairs so we get a dip
[2017-03-06 20:03:59] rustiv : colors are completely random
[2017-03-06 20:04:09] Rado2 : rustiv: See I am legit
[2017-03-06 20:04:11] rustiv : larping hard
[2017-03-06 20:04:38] rustiv : wow your message is always bold
[2017-03-06 20:04:43] rustiv : =legit?
[2017-03-06 20:05:07] micmix : rustiv: everyone's message is bold
[2017-03-06 20:05:13] Rado2 : lol
[2017-03-06 20:05:15] -_- : **huh**
[2017-03-06 20:05:20] rustiv : wow
[2017-03-06 20:05:22] rustiv : double bold
[2017-03-06 20:05:25] -_- : o
[2017-03-06 20:05:27] rustiv : this guy is legit
[2017-03-06 20:05:35] -_- : **too legit too quit**
[2017-03-06 20:05:35] Rado2 : micmix: don't stop the fun
[2017-03-06 20:05:56] -_- : _buy the top_
[2017-03-06 20:06:06] Rado : By the way it's 4 AM here
[2017-03-06 20:06:11] Rado : I've been up since 2:30 AM
[2017-03-06 20:06:19] Rado : got a stomac bug
[2017-03-06 20:06:25] Rado : stomach
[2017-03-06 20:06:33] -_- : i'm gonna need a whale to dump on stamp
[2017-03-06 20:06:35] Rado : damn Malaysian food
[2017-03-06 20:07:02] Hawkeye : Rado: special vx sauce?
[2017-03-06 20:07:17] Rado : I guess
[2017-03-06 20:07:38] rapidtrades : micmix: so that accelerator has min fee of 100b?
[2017-03-06 20:07:48] micmix : rapidtrades: yes
[2017-03-06 20:08:00] rapidtrades : useless then
[2017-03-06 20:08:07] Rado : rapidtrades: just pay the damn fee
[2017-03-06 20:08:13] Hawkeye : or wait
[2017-03-06 20:09:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: sell 71 @ 0.015670
[2017-03-06 20:09:35] sleger : or use ETH
[2017-03-06 20:09:50] inconspic : was it when bitmex announced adding dash the rally began?
[2017-03-06 20:10:20] zy : funding rate is dropping
[2017-03-06 20:10:31] Rado : see ya all later
[2017-03-06 20:12:55] rustiv : finex looks ready to pop
[2017-03-06 20:13:35] Hawkeye : sink it !
[2017-03-06 20:14:38] Hawkeye : darn fake internet money ;)
[2017-03-06 20:14:58] Hawkeye : Alternative money !
[2017-03-06 20:15:13] mtourig3 : rustiv: yup
[2017-03-06 20:15:19] mtourig3 : so does stamp
[2017-03-06 20:18:04] rapidtrades : accelerator my ass, still wiaitng
[2017-03-06 20:18:15] rapidtrades : don't worry tho, bitcoin is near all time highs
[2017-03-06 20:20:13] reyno : pop up or down haha?
[2017-03-06 20:20:37] Actualiteit : reyno: yes
[2017-03-06 20:21:23] sleger : rapid has a point, how can bitcoin grow much further if nigerians cant afford the fee ?
[2017-03-06 20:22:54] Ahhere : sleger: im pretty sure thats racist
[2017-03-06 20:23:11] sleger : statistics, nigerians are poor
[2017-03-06 20:23:37] Actualiteit : Ahhere: yeah dey raciss
[2017-03-06 20:24:26] rapidtrades : https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/5xvd7v/gbtc_premium_has_shot_up_from_8_to_16_today_i/
[2017-03-06 20:26:11] rapidtrades : @Nerve how long did u wait for the accelerator to kick in
[2017-03-06 20:27:10] -_- : largest BTC mining pool signaling for Bitcoin Unlimited
[2017-03-06 20:27:23] -_- : soon high fees will be a thing of the past
[2017-03-06 20:27:27] jphamer1 : any news on when withdrawals in china will be working yet?
[2017-03-06 20:27:33] -_- : no
[2017-03-06 20:27:45] -_- : although some smaller exchanges have enabled them
[2017-03-06 20:29:10] Ahhere : can BU and segwit both be activated.. I mean the losing one be added later?
[2017-03-06 20:31:54] Whaler : yes
[2017-03-06 20:38:38] Ahhere : dash getting testy time to short that mother
[2017-03-06 20:39:07] CutTheLosses : funding is hungry and eats all my profits LoL
[2017-03-06 20:42:31] rapidtrades : https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/5xr6l1/daily_discussion_monday_march_06_2017/dekwarh/
[2017-03-06 20:42:34] rapidtrades : read that comment chain
[2017-03-06 20:43:09] rapidtrades : until GBTC premium started going up, everyone was saying 'OMG PREMIUM FALLING COS COIN WILL BE APPROVED AND ITS THEIR COMPEITITION''
[2017-03-06 20:43:34] rapidtrades : now rising premium signals what...u guessed it, ETF approval again
[2017-03-06 20:44:36] -_- : dumping
[2017-03-06 20:44:38] -_- : etf denied?
[2017-03-06 20:44:41] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 695 @ 1304.64
[2017-03-06 20:45:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 390000 @ 1300.55 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire:
[2017-03-06 20:45:03] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 150000 @ 1304.02 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:
[2017-03-06 20:45:30] NooBTCrader : noice
[2017-03-06 20:45:42] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 12000 @ 1273.37
[2017-03-06 20:46:03] cryptokeeper : Oh wow
[2017-03-06 20:46:05] -_- : wow big longs
[2017-03-06 20:46:13] -_- : manipulative dump i take it
[2017-03-06 20:46:25] rustiv : confident dip buyers lol
[2017-03-06 20:46:36] cryptokeeper : Yup
[2017-03-06 20:46:41] cryptokeeper : 10 lashes
[2017-03-06 20:46:43] rustiv : too fast for me
[2017-03-06 20:47:12] -_- : i bet okc quarterly and bitmex quarterly has same people
[2017-03-06 20:47:17] -_- : dump okc quarterly to rekt bitmex longs
[2017-03-06 20:47:32] wurstgelee : hahahaha
[2017-03-06 20:47:34] wurstgelee : so funny
[2017-03-06 20:47:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `DASH7D`: sell 600 @ 0.036546
[2017-03-06 20:47:43] -_- : but really 390k
[2017-03-06 20:47:48] -_- : Rado: was that you
[2017-03-06 20:47:49] wurstgelee : some guy posted a "etf denied" fake announcement in slack announcement channel
[2017-03-06 20:47:54] wurstgelee : thats the reason
[2017-03-06 20:48:00] wurstgelee : people panic-dumped
[2017-03-06 20:48:00] Actualiteit : lmao
[2017-03-06 20:48:04] j8 : lol
[2017-03-06 20:48:12] wurstgelee : great knife
[2017-03-06 20:48:13] wurstgelee : :D
[2017-03-06 20:48:46] j8 : won't be the only time this week i'm sure
[2017-03-06 20:49:10] rapidtrades : WINKLEVOSS PRESS CONFERENCE IN 12 MINS - COINDESK
[2017-03-06 20:49:21] CutTheLosses : LoL
[2017-03-06 20:49:47] rapidtrades : j/k :)
[2017-03-06 20:50:04] herpinator : last time there was a dip like the one that just happened I market sold and it lagged out and I got a short entry point at the VERY lowest sell lol thankfully I averaged out the position and got out just then
[2017-03-06 20:50:08] CutTheLosses : you moved swap +.$5
[2017-03-06 20:50:12] wurstgelee : ndkirby [9:49 PM] I sold 400 BTC on that wtf
[2017-03-06 20:50:13] wurstgelee : lol
[2017-03-06 20:50:17] wurstgelee : wow...just wow
[2017-03-06 20:50:26] rapidtrades : HodL
[2017-03-06 20:50:32] wurstgelee : it was just fud
[2017-03-06 20:50:38] CutTheLosses : jeez
[2017-03-06 20:50:42] Coconuter : my margin was reduced on this fall
[2017-03-06 20:50:48] Coconuter : lucky I wasn't stopped
[2017-03-06 20:50:48] rapidtrades : its never just fud @wurstgelee
[2017-03-06 20:50:51] Coconuter : fucking adl
[2017-03-06 20:50:51] wurstgelee : some troll used slack announcement system to post "ETF DENIED" announcement
[2017-03-06 20:50:53] rapidtrades : silly sausage
[2017-03-06 20:50:56] wurstgelee : there are 100s
[2017-03-06 20:51:01] wurstgelee : guys panic dumped
[2017-03-06 20:51:01] herpinator : lol dam
[2017-03-06 20:51:08] rustiv : bitconmarkets slack?
[2017-03-06 20:51:13] Farzad : hey guys :D
[2017-03-06 20:51:20] wurstgelee : https://reddit-bitcoinmarkets.slack.com/messages/etf/
[2017-03-06 20:51:22] wurstgelee : yep
[2017-03-06 20:51:23] BitMEX_Sam : @everyone We have almost completed an automated system for disabling Clef and transitioning to a new Two-Factor type
[2017-03-06 20:51:24] mick11877 : I shorted, what a prick
[2017-03-06 20:51:34] BitMEX_Sam : Clef will remain online for another 90 days, you may transition at your leisure.
[2017-03-06 20:51:36] rapidtrades : Farzad: dude make a webcrawler
[2017-03-06 20:51:37] cryptokeeper : Bitcoin markets slack. Meh
[2017-03-06 20:51:45] Farzad : rapidtrades: for what ?
[2017-03-06 20:51:59] wurstgelee : cryptokeeper: well...its meh. but it made me buy h17 in the lows 1290s
[2017-03-06 20:52:00] rapidtrades : Farzad: to post 'updates' when SEC pages change
[2017-03-06 20:52:03] wurstgelee : so totally worth it
[2017-03-06 20:52:04] wurstgelee : ;)
[2017-03-06 20:52:41] Farzad : rapidtrades: I guarantee you, you would have no time to react. people have bots to trade the SEC decision in milliseconds.
[2017-03-06 20:52:50] herpinator : thats where I bought also
[2017-03-06 20:53:01] rapidtrades : Farzad: i guarantee u, that's not true
[2017-03-06 20:53:18] rapidtrades : my trading skills are legendary
[2017-03-06 20:53:32] Farzad : rapidtrades: dude, I know, Trust me.
[2017-03-06 20:53:34] wurstgelee : yeah. everyone heard the great rapid n ZEc legend
[2017-03-06 20:53:41] herpinator : lol
[2017-03-06 20:53:49] rapidtrades : Farzad: u don't know, ur just a coder
[2017-03-06 20:54:12] Farzad : rapidtrades: I have 15+ years trading XP. lol
[2017-03-06 20:54:16] Farzad : are you kidding me ?
[2017-03-06 20:54:20] CBF : wots a sec?
[2017-03-06 20:54:32] Actualiteit : CBF: we got 60 of em in a min.
[2017-03-06 20:54:35] rapidtrades : XP? trading on windoze xp?
[2017-03-06 20:54:42] CBF : Actualiteit: kthnx
[2017-03-06 20:54:44] Farzad : rapidtrades: I'm pretty famous in forex community as well ;)
[2017-03-06 20:54:58] rapidtrades : Farzad: oh yea? who are u
[2017-03-06 20:54:59] hmmmYea : Farzad: which forex community?
[2017-03-06 20:55:02] Farzad : rapidtrades: XP = Experience
[2017-03-06 20:55:08] yungyang : BitMEX_Sam: you guys going to use authy?
[2017-03-06 20:55:15] donsteep : so person famous equals only facts spoken?
[2017-03-06 20:55:17] BitMEX_Sam : yungyang: We already support Authy
[2017-03-06 20:55:21] Farzad : hmmmYea: Like Forex-TSD for example
[2017-03-06 20:55:39] CutTheLosses : i am famous in my village
[2017-03-06 20:55:44] NooBTCrader : big boyz in the trollbox
[2017-03-06 20:55:50] yungyang : BitMEX_Sam: really
[2017-03-06 20:55:52] yungyang : soreceror
[2017-03-06 20:55:53] rapidtrades : im famous with ur moms! heyooo
[2017-03-06 20:56:01] y1uy : i think rapidtrades wins the trollbox toxic person award of the month
[2017-03-06 20:56:05] BitMEX_Sam : yungyang: Yes, Authy uses the same mechanism as Google Authenticator
[2017-03-06 20:56:08] cg : you guys really dump without actually checking because some random guy on a slack channel says etf denied? lmao
[2017-03-06 20:56:14] hmmmYea : Farzad: do u write algos?
[2017-03-06 20:56:29] Actualiteit : cg: yes. It is the pro btc trader way. Remember to buy high sell low!
[2017-03-06 20:56:31] yungyang : BitMEX_Sam: thanks pal
[2017-03-06 20:56:41] Farzad : hmmmYea: yes, I also code in MQ4 for meta trader
[2017-03-06 20:56:50] rustiv : /rekt
[2017-03-06 20:56:51] trollbot : ``` 16 hours, 52 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 52377 @ 1269.51 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:```
[2017-03-06 20:56:51] trollbot : ``` 11 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 390000 @ 1300.55 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire:```
[2017-03-06 20:56:51] trollbot : ``` 16 hours, 52 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 50000 @ 1269.19 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:```
[2017-03-06 20:56:51] trollbot : ``` 11 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 150000 @ 1304.02 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:```
[2017-03-06 20:57:05] CutTheLosses : 390k was hardcore
[2017-03-06 20:57:06] rustiv : poor rektosaurus
[2017-03-06 20:57:10] yungyang : BitMEX_Sam: so I just choose google and send it to authy
[2017-03-06 20:57:13] Ahhere : Nice lol
[2017-03-06 20:57:17] BitMEX_Sam : Correct
[2017-03-06 20:57:25] donsteep : is it true rektosaurus used to have feathers?
[2017-03-06 20:57:27] rustiv : how much bounty for the fudder?
[2017-03-06 20:57:53] rapidtrades : accelerator worked on 1 transaction
[2017-03-06 20:58:04] rapidtrades : rest are <100b so im screwed i guess
[2017-03-06 20:58:23] hmmmYea : metatrader is for retail mkt only, right?
[2017-03-06 21:00:38] rangle : the fake announcement.... wow
[2017-03-06 21:00:54] odieoh : Whats the record for the most rekt?
[2017-03-06 21:01:06] odieoh : that 390k had to be up there
[2017-03-06 21:01:30] hmmmYea : Farzad: can you contact me? I dont really know if there is a way to talk outside a trollbox conveniently
[2017-03-06 21:01:59] yungyang : Premium back on gbtc
[2017-03-06 21:02:13] y1uy : gbtc is a joke
[2017-03-06 21:02:18] CutTheLosses : omfgz
[2017-03-06 21:02:52] Farzad : hmmmYea: If u need coding, unfortunately I have no free time :)
[2017-03-06 21:03:13] odieoh : Premium going up on GBTC makes absolutely no sense in any scenario. ETF approved? Why would you pay a premium. ETF denied? Price of bitcoin gonna crash and you're paying a premium on the crash
[2017-03-06 21:03:50] hmmmYea : Farzad: more just to talk. i mainly write my own code.
[2017-03-06 21:04:04] hmmmYea : no big deal
[2017-03-06 21:04:35] rapidtrades : no free time, the old f*ck you
[2017-03-06 21:04:44] Farzad : hmmmYea: contact me @ : rahab [at] adminsehow.com
[2017-03-06 21:04:45] CutTheLosses : haha
[2017-03-06 21:04:50] Ahhere : rapidtrades: lol
[2017-03-06 21:04:51] bingbongfly : etf denied? someone said so
[2017-03-06 21:05:05] ross : /rekt
[2017-03-06 21:05:06] trollbot : ``` 20 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 390000 @ 1300.55 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire:```
[2017-03-06 21:05:06] trollbot : ``` 20 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 150000 @ 1304.02 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:```
[2017-03-06 21:05:06] trollbot : ``` 17 hours, ago: Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 50000 @ 1269.19 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:```
[2017-03-06 21:05:08] hmmmYea : Farzad: cool
[2017-03-06 21:05:34] Farzad : hmmmYea: ;)
[2017-03-06 21:05:46] Hawkeye : bingbongfly: aparently bs
[2017-03-06 21:05:55] hmmmYea : bingbongfly: fake news
[2017-03-06 21:06:07] rapidtrades : protip: its never BS
[2017-03-06 21:06:20] Farzad : odieoh: what is GBTC ?
[2017-03-06 21:06:51] odieoh : A stock or ETF that trades based on BTC price, but it trades at a huge premium over spot price
[2017-03-06 21:07:10] odieoh : Its an OTC instrument, I forget what its actually classifed as
[2017-03-06 21:07:17] odieoh : classified
[2017-03-06 21:07:29] Farzad : odieoh: at which exchange is it traded at ?
[2017-03-06 21:07:46] hmmmYea : its a trust that trades on the pink sheets. its a complete pile of poop, and people are reading wayyyyyy to much into it
[2017-03-06 21:07:47] j8 : gbtc is a closed-end fund i believe
[2017-03-06 21:07:52] odieoh : It's OTC (over the counter) the best I know
[2017-03-06 21:08:14] Farzad : ok ty for info
[2017-03-06 21:08:26] odieoh : so yeah, "pink sheets' like hmmm is saying-it's basically garbage but it does go up when BTC goes up, and down when BTC goes down
[2017-03-06 21:09:02] jho : OTCQX
[2017-03-06 21:09:06] odieoh : in recent weeks, the huge premium over spot was going down, presumably in anticipation of the ETF approval
[2017-03-06 21:10:10] hmmmYea : odieoh: stock lending on pink sheets is so f'd in general that it is very hard to determine that.
[2017-03-06 21:10:45] odieoh : to determine what?
[2017-03-06 21:11:50] hmmmYea : odieoh: there's very few shares short... and if you owned it, you owned bitcoin at 80%-ish premium to its actual value.. so you are definitely a bit of a moron.. and so if you are saying that the premium on gbtc is informed by the SEC odds, you are saying that the pay 80% over for bitcoin crowd is more informed than everyone else... that is very difficult for me to believe
[2017-03-06 21:13:45] odieoh : I don't own it and never said I did. . .and I didn't imply that people who do are more informed- they just know that," hey within a couple of weeks there might be a better instrument to use to trade bitcoin without all this premium, so I'm not going to pay the premium anymore."
[2017-03-06 21:14:10] hmmmYea : odieoh: what i wrote was very confusing
[2017-03-06 21:14:22] odieoh : i agree
[2017-03-06 21:15:24] rapidtrades : the point is the changing narrative
[2017-03-06 21:15:58] rapidtrades : once lower premium it signals etf approval, then higher premium signals etf approval
[2017-03-06 21:16:04] hmmmYea : odieoh: all the people influencing the price of GBTC are idiots. (or else they wouldn't have bought gbtc in the first place) they know nothing. the premium in GBTC is a consensus of fools
[2017-03-06 21:16:09] rapidtrades : means longs are full of shit and making it up as they go along
[2017-03-06 21:16:13] j8 : there's not much reason to hold gbtc if you're a bitcoin user, except maybe tax reasons, so many of the people holding it aren't trading on bitcoin markets
[2017-03-06 21:16:29] rapidtrades : same for COIN i guess ^
[2017-03-06 21:16:58] j8 : yes except COIN will track the price better
[2017-03-06 21:17:14] hmmmYea : odieoh: i might trade GBTC vs the consensus in the actual bitcoin market... but doing the inverse is an error.
[2017-03-06 21:18:00] rapidtrades : ur so full of shit, when u keep changing the facts u shoudl know how weak ur side is
[2017-03-06 21:18:21] hmmmYea : rapidtrades: what side am on?
[2017-03-06 21:18:36] rapidtrades : first china was great for bitcoin then baning china was great for bitcoin
[2017-03-06 21:18:36] Ahhere : The bad guise
[2017-03-06 21:18:45] rapidtrades : its a giant confidence scam
[2017-03-06 21:19:09] ross : rapidtrades: i have the bot
[2017-03-06 21:19:34] rapidtrades : actual pyramid scheme going on right now in bitcoin
[2017-03-06 21:19:45] hmmmYea : rapidtrades: bitcoin is obviously a confidence game. just like gold, and silver, and banks, and all currency, and all debt
[2017-03-06 21:19:47] rapidtrades : house of cards waiting to crumble
[2017-03-06 21:20:16] rapidtrades : hmmmYea: no not really, cos all those markets are regulated
[2017-03-06 21:20:25] hmmmYea : rapidtrades: the value of any money is a social construction
[2017-03-06 21:20:40] hmmmYea : rapidtrades: money and gold and credit existed LONNNNGGG before they were reglated
[2017-03-06 21:20:42] rapidtrades : ur not seeing faking finex printing 70m in fake currency for idiots to use and pump the price
[2017-03-06 21:21:09] rapidtrades : think what u want, these markets are a joke
[2017-03-06 21:21:25] hmmmYea : rapidtrades: if your point is that bitcoin is new and immature and unregulated, i would agree
[2017-03-06 21:21:32] rapidtrades : bitmex is prolly near the top and it too is more gambling shop then anything
[2017-03-06 21:22:05] rapidtrades : hmmmYea: ok so we agree
[2017-03-06 21:23:11] rejndjer : why did xbth17 dip half an hour ago?
[2017-03-06 21:23:30] Hawkeye : rejndjer: might have been a fake news on etf
[2017-03-06 21:23:32] jho : fake sec news
[2017-03-06 21:23:36] -_- : rejndjer: fake news
[2017-03-06 21:23:44] JT : alternative facts
[2017-03-06 21:23:46] rejndjer : crazy xD
[2017-03-06 21:23:50] CutTheLosses : CNN released fake news
[2017-03-06 21:23:53] Hawkeye : bitcoin banned china ! ;)
[2017-03-06 21:24:36] -_- : dont think SEC will announce anything today
[2017-03-06 21:24:48] Hawkeye : they might just silently let it be passed
[2017-03-06 21:24:51] rapidtrades : -_-: day not over yet bra
[2017-03-06 21:25:00] Hawkeye : then we get no big news other then time expired
[2017-03-06 21:25:02] rejndjer : -_-: depends if they're short or long xD
[2017-03-06 21:25:24] vgck : rejndjer: Some guys posted this in the slack channel : timewellspent 3:43 PM @channel ALERT!!! ETF DENIED!!!
[2017-03-06 21:25:50] rejndjer : lol and they say one man cant move the market
[2017-03-06 21:26:02] Ahhere : Lol i would like to buy that guy a drink
[2017-03-06 21:26:11] -_- : thing with ETF rejection is price could insta drop $60 in a second
[2017-03-06 21:26:22] -_- : not safe to be in a position i say
[2017-03-06 21:26:34] rejndjer : i think im gonna gamble untill friday, and then move everything to usd
[2017-03-06 21:26:37] rejndjer : just in case
[2017-03-06 21:26:39] vgck : I'm surprised 4Chan isn't doing this kind of shit
[2017-03-06 21:27:17] Ahhere : We can expect this daily. And pumps when sec closes at night.
[2017-03-06 21:27:36] vgck : Those autistic f*cks could make a lot of money manipulating bitcoin price like that
[2017-03-06 21:27:44] rapidtrades : idk didn't happen last night @Ahhere
[2017-03-06 21:28:10] rapidtrades : wtf SEC ppl have lives
[2017-03-06 21:28:13] rapidtrades : u scum
[2017-03-06 21:28:30] rapidtrades : lets spam comments: DECISION NOW
[2017-03-06 21:28:39] rapidtrades : that's all it says
[2017-03-06 21:29:09] vgck : Why? That won't move the price, it's like a Made you look, thing. What's the point?
[2017-03-06 21:29:23] Ahhere : Throw in some incoherent audit the fed babbling @rapidtrades
[2017-03-06 21:29:46] rapidtrades : DUIT THE SEC
[2017-03-06 21:30:31] rapidtrades : two SEC commissionaires sit in a room, what do they decide?
[2017-03-06 21:30:51] rapidtrades : BITCOIN ETF
[2017-03-06 21:32:42] rapidtrades : that was the joke....a bitcoin ETF
[2017-03-06 21:33:11] rapidtrades : ...normal ppl get it
[2017-03-06 21:33:26] Ahhere : U should do standup
[2017-03-06 21:33:35] lockhedge : i hope the SEC's website doesn't get hacked, gave them direct access to my bot
[2017-03-06 21:33:49] Ahhere : For deaf dumb blind ppl
[2017-03-06 21:34:06] Hawkeye : that would be something hacking them first posting its aproved.. then later a post they were hacked and its denied :)
[2017-03-06 21:34:20] Hawkeye : then after that it really gets aproved :)
[2017-03-06 21:36:06] jho : If you think the SEC is going to approve >/= 1 ETF of the 3 proposed ETFs, why would they not approve COIN, the one that's been working with the SEC for what, 3-4 years?
[2017-03-06 21:36:10] jho : I actually like the odds
[2017-03-06 21:36:32] hmmmYea : jho: lots of reason
[2017-03-06 21:36:36] hmmmYea : s
[2017-03-06 21:37:39] Hawkeye : last change on the prop want huge so my estimate is they were very close to being passed and should with the change be passed this week. but thats just my educated gamble :)
[2017-03-06 21:37:44] Hawkeye : wasnt
[2017-03-06 21:39:30] rapidtrades : what's so huge about changing size of shares
[2017-03-06 21:39:59] Hawkeye : it wasnt huge is what i ment to say (and tried to correct)
[2017-03-06 21:40:50] rapidtrades : The Exchange notes that while this change increases the size of a Basket from 10,000 Shares to 100,000 Shares, it has no impact as it relates to the notional size of a Basket. The original 10,000 Share Basket size was based on each Share representing 0.1 bitcoin, however, each Share will now represent 0.01 bitcoin and a Basket will consist of 100,000 Shares. As such, the notional value for each Basket remains the same.
[2017-03-06 21:41:10] rapidtrades : how can u read anything in that change is beyond me
[2017-03-06 21:41:19] rapidtrades : just longs hamstering again
[2017-03-06 21:42:04] Hawkeye : if you have a meeting with sec and there were big opjections there would be way more in changes proposed. thats what i ment. its whats NOT in there that matters imo
[2017-03-06 21:42:22] Hawkeye : no huge changes means sec had no huge objections
[2017-03-06 21:42:40] rapidtrades : u don't know that
[2017-03-06 21:42:44] odieoh : hmmmYea: (Sorry I had to step away)I don't necessarily agree that everyone who bought GBTC is an idiot- I think some are likely people who were very bullish on Bitcoin yet had money tied up in retirement accounts that they wanted to expose to BTC price action. And honestly, someone who bought GBTC 6 months or a year ago would have done very well. As long as you eventually sell, the premium is just a static cost that doesn't really matter.
[2017-03-06 21:42:52] Hawkeye : and yes its an educated gamble, just like you gamble on down :)
[2017-03-06 21:43:09] rapidtrades : if ETF is denied it will likely be cos of bitcoin itself not some magical property in the COIN etf
[2017-03-06 21:43:16] rapidtrades : IT'S ABOUT BITCOIN
[2017-03-06 21:43:20] Faszakasza : Hawkeye: I had the same feeling about those news. Winks have been told to change some small shit like this before approval.
[2017-03-06 21:43:27] rapidtrades : all 3 etfs will be rejected
[2017-03-06 21:43:38] Hawkeye : rapidtrades: could be , then you win massively :)
[2017-03-06 21:43:47] yungyang : rapidtrades: god you're obtuse
[2017-03-06 21:43:58] Hawkeye : but i am not taking that side of the bet myself
[2017-03-06 21:44:24] odieoh : I have to imagine one of the biggest hangups for the SEC is the Chinese controlling most of the mining
[2017-03-06 21:44:30] DorianWhack-A-Moto : Thanks Bitmex for changing the rule on COIN /s
[2017-03-06 21:44:30] Hawkeye : personally i think coin will be aproved, not so sure the others will pass in one go
[2017-03-06 21:44:48] jho : Either all 3 will be rejected or definitely at least COIN (if at least 1 is apporved), was my point
[2017-03-06 21:45:23] rapidtrades : after 5pm it happ
[2017-03-06 21:45:29] rapidtrades : i have a unch
[2017-03-06 21:45:37] rapidtrades : hunch*
[2017-03-06 21:45:42] rapidtrades : just had lunch
[2017-03-06 21:45:55] odieoh : i hope your hunch is right; I'm sick of waiting on this and not sleeping
[2017-03-06 21:46:15] rapidtrades : it should be safe to sleep in 3-4 hrs
[2017-03-06 21:46:19] Hawkeye : yes rip off that bandaid quick :)
[2017-03-06 21:46:52] odieoh : I'll sleep ok tonight, ratcheted down my leverage now that the funding is back down to shit
[2017-03-06 21:47:03] lockhedge : jho: there are possible specific reasons to reject COIN, e.g. the potential conflict of interest with Gemini (their ETF's business model is the generate fees on their exchange)
[2017-03-06 21:47:20] -_- : what time does the SEC usually post stuff
[2017-03-06 21:47:30] rapidtrades : 5pm EST
[2017-03-06 21:47:37] -_- : thought it was late morning or early afternoon for all the COIN stuff
[2017-03-06 21:47:42] rapidtrades : right before they leave the bulding
[2017-03-06 21:47:46] -_- : https://www.sec.gov/rules/sro/batsbzx.htm
[2017-03-06 21:47:51] -_- : no time stamps on those though
[2017-03-06 21:48:11] jho : lockhedge: if that was a non-starter it would be known by now
[2017-03-06 21:48:13] yungyang : rapidtrades: that change allows for more lqiudidity and less risk/share
[2017-03-06 21:48:32] rapidtrades : IS SEC ON EST?
[2017-03-06 21:48:40] yungyang : itll be Wednesday or we won't hear
[2017-03-06 21:48:51] rapidtrades : IS SEC ON EST?
[2017-03-06 21:48:57] yungyang : yes
[2017-03-06 21:48:59] yungyang : NY
[2017-03-06 21:50:26] lockhedge : jho: the SEC asked for comments on this issue. it might be something the twins are not willing to change (as this is their business model), but low chance that it will be the main reason for a possible disapproval
[2017-03-06 21:50:35] hmmmYea : lockhedge: the winklevii are too greedy for their own good
[2017-03-06 21:51:14] rapidtrades : I DON'T THINK ITS EST
[2017-03-06 21:51:20] rapidtrades : last change says 12:02
[2017-03-06 21:51:40] rapidtrades : and that happened a 17:00 CET
[2017-03-06 21:52:42] jho : SEC is EST, no chance of announcement after 5pm
[2017-03-06 21:52:43] Apocalyptic : rapidtrades: you're italian btw or just living in Rome ?
[2017-03-06 21:52:54] jho : unless leak of some kind
[2017-03-06 21:53:00] rapidtrades : im not in rome anymore
[2017-03-06 21:54:14] -_- : oh here are the times https://www.sec.gov/rules/sro/batsbzx/2017/?C=M;O=D
[2017-03-06 21:54:27] -_- : 17:14 is the latest this year
[2017-03-06 21:54:33] rapidtrades : yes, like i said lot of around 17h
[2017-03-06 21:54:36] rapidtrades : 16-17h
[2017-03-06 21:54:42] rapidtrades : last minute
[2017-03-06 21:55:25] rapidtrades : but is that EST tho
[2017-03-06 21:55:56] -_- : yeah
[2017-03-06 21:56:04] -_- : most are mid afternoon or late morning
[2017-03-06 21:56:28] sleger : rapidtrades: sec is in ny
[2017-03-06 21:57:12] DorianWhack-A-Moto : -_-: they close at 17:30
[2017-03-06 21:57:29] maxrdlf95 : whats going on with SEC today
[2017-03-06 21:57:29] DorianWhack-A-Moto : 30 mins away
[2017-03-06 21:57:34] sleger : they dont close at a specific hour they go home when they want
[2017-03-06 21:57:52] DorianWhack-A-Moto : office doesn't have open and close times?
[2017-03-06 21:58:02] sleger : no
[2017-03-06 21:58:26] sleger : most large office buildings like the one they are in are open 24/7 for employees
[2017-03-06 21:59:04] sleger : "DorianWhack-A-Moto: -_-: they close at 17:30" <= looks like you just guessed a random time
[2017-03-06 21:59:21] DorianWhack-A-Moto : not random time
[2017-03-06 21:59:41] DorianWhack-A-Moto : i'll ring them and ask
[2017-03-06 21:59:43] rapidtrades : last update was posted at 12:02 but I already posted a link to it at 17:50 in this chat
[2017-03-06 21:59:49] rapidtrades : so EST is not used on the website
[2017-03-06 21:59:50] zy : are we going for 1300 today or not
[2017-03-06 21:59:55] zanza : https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/5xv0at/antpool_signals_for_bitcoin_unlimited/
[2017-03-06 22:00:03] rapidtrades : zanza f off
[2017-03-06 22:00:09] gustavo7 : good on COIN clearance
[2017-03-06 22:01:20] gustavo7 : _where is the trend my friends_
[2017-03-06 22:01:32] -_- : once the price dumps $30 the orderbooks will be empty. wont take much to tank it. everyone better hope for approval
[2017-03-06 22:03:56] rapidtrades : we are nearing the finish line that's for sure
[2017-03-06 22:04:02] rapidtrades : time for this maddness to end
[2017-03-06 22:06:04] rangle : 360k rekt didnt survive to the end