This is a mirror of the original BitMEX trollbox archive that used to be online here.
BitMEX disabled their archive after the DDOS attack so I have decided to make my mirror publicly available.

Well now, a few days after I made this mirror available to the public, the original archive from BitMEX is online again.
But since it is still limited (neutered to the last few hundred messages) I will keep my FULL mirror alive.

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[2017-03-06 19:07:33] sleger : would be good to know what was done so that someone can hack into a 2FA protected account
[2017-03-06 19:07:37] Rado : ?
[2017-03-06 19:07:39] sleger : to avoid doing the same mistakes
[2017-03-06 19:07:44] BitMEX_Sam : Greg also forgot to mention we support Yubikey
[2017-03-06 19:07:58] BitMEX_Sam : sleger: It appears the attacker had access to the user's phone, which was being used for Google Auth as well
[2017-03-06 19:08:07] BitMEX_Sam : So email + GA + reset password = account breach
[2017-03-06 19:08:09] sleger : SIM copy then
[2017-03-06 19:08:12] Rado : sleger: I think his phone got hacked with some kind of application
[2017-03-06 19:08:19] BitMEX_Sam : Wouldn't be a SIM copy, no
[2017-03-06 19:08:33] BitMEX_Sam : SIM copies are good for subverting SMS 2FA but not 2FA via a local app, or a user's email
[2017-03-06 19:08:54] BitMEX_Sam : PGP + Google Auth or Yubikey is the safest option
[2017-03-06 19:09:19] sleger : if my phone is an iphone where i use 2FA and only I have access to it then i couldnt be hacked like that guy ?
[2017-03-06 19:09:26] sleger : 2fa via google auth
[2017-03-06 19:09:37] BitMEX_Sam : Unless the iphone itself were compromised, but if it doesn't also have access to your email account the risk is low
[2017-03-06 19:09:49] BitMEX_Sam : We are big fans of Yubikeys here for that reason, nothing beats an offline physical device
[2017-03-06 19:09:59] BitMEX_Sam : U2F will also fill that gap
[2017-03-06 19:10:33] tb : so sad
[2017-03-06 19:10:39] tb : clef was the best 2fa system by far
[2017-03-06 19:10:49] Rado : I liked it
[2017-03-06 19:10:56] Rado : easy to use
[2017-03-06 19:10:56] sleger : clef sucked if you didnt have cell phone reception though
[2017-03-06 19:11:05] tb : bitmex admins: did you guys have to pay to use clef?
[2017-03-06 19:11:10] tb : like per login or per user?
[2017-03-06 19:11:12] Rado : sleger: you mean data
[2017-03-06 19:11:16] wurstgelee : hm. antpool isnt supposed to mine BU iirc?
[2017-03-06 19:11:31] wurstgelee : https://twitter.com/WhalePanda/status/838827733505441792
[2017-03-06 19:11:32] sleger : yubikey works to connect with an iphone ? (no usb)
[2017-03-06 19:11:39] wurstgelee : they apparently do now
[2017-03-06 19:11:43] j8 : seems silly to depend on a third party for login though. that was always my issue with clef
[2017-03-06 19:12:26] sleger : so fo yubikey i have to carry the stick everywhere AND also a lightning to usb adapter ?
[2017-03-06 19:12:45] Rado : sleger: I don't like this as well
[2017-03-06 19:12:57] Rado : j8: everything should be decentralized
[2017-03-06 19:13:10] Rado : no central company or server will be best for apps like that
[2017-03-06 19:13:13] j8 : apple wants you to bring a briefcase full of adapters with you everywhere
[2017-03-06 19:13:16] wurstgelee : yeah ok, that explains it. nobody cares here, market doesn do anything either oO
[2017-03-06 19:13:21] wurstgelee : *t
[2017-03-06 19:13:23] j8 : Rado: definitely
[2017-03-06 19:13:54] Rado : wurstgelee: what's that?
[2017-03-06 19:14:06] wurstgelee : whats what?
[2017-03-06 19:14:09] wurstgelee : antpool? BU=?
[2017-03-06 19:14:11] thomaskikansha : dashing
[2017-03-06 19:14:23] Rado : wurstgelee: oh yeah no one cares about BU
[2017-03-06 19:14:33] Whaler : yet
[2017-03-06 19:14:38] wurstgelee : well, if antpool switched to mining BU
[2017-03-06 19:14:43] wurstgelee : this is sth to care about imo
[2017-03-06 19:15:14] sleger : j8: you use a physical u2f device ?
[2017-03-06 19:15:28] rejndjer : if i am long and i want to lower my liq. price,then i should add btc to my margin?
[2017-03-06 19:15:38] Rado : wurstgelee: people don't care what the scaling solution is as long as there is one
[2017-03-06 19:15:39] j8 : sleger: i would use a trezor for u2f
[2017-03-06 19:15:48] j8 : rather than buy something else
[2017-03-06 19:16:05] sleger : i have a nano s
[2017-03-06 19:16:10] sleger : its not tiny though
[2017-03-06 19:16:28] wurstgelee : Rado: if u dont see how this affects the chances of egwit every getting activated, i cant help you
[2017-03-06 19:16:35] wurstgelee : *segwit
[2017-03-06 19:16:38] sleger : "Furthermore Nano S can manage multiple applications such as Bitcoin, Ethereum or FIDO U2F (strong authentication)."
[2017-03-06 19:16:58] Rado : wurstgelee: segwit doesn't have a chance anyway
[2017-03-06 19:17:19] Rado : I like it, but 95% to activate is imposibble
[2017-03-06 19:17:20] j8 : yep looks like they support it also
[2017-03-06 19:17:24] wurstgelee : i dont disagree - but it paints a different picture now
[2017-03-06 19:17:26] wurstgelee : more obvious
[2017-03-06 19:18:10] Rado : wurstgelee: where did you read the news about BU?
[2017-03-06 19:18:19] wurstgelee : this would usually be enough for a serious spike down, pobviously not in ETF decision week
[2017-03-06 19:18:24] wurstgelee : *-p
[2017-03-06 19:18:25] wurstgelee : :)
[2017-03-06 19:18:40] wurstgelee : Rado: twitter. and block explorer confirms it
[2017-03-06 19:18:58] wurstgelee : last two blocks mined by antpool are BU blocks
[2017-03-06 19:19:31] Rado : I watched an interview with Roger Ver and Ton Vase
[2017-03-06 19:19:45] Rado : to tell you the truth Roger had more credability
[2017-03-06 19:19:48] MikeHunt : btfd should be relatively safe until etf decision (fail)
[2017-03-06 19:19:50] j8 : i'm guessing Authy bought Clef
[2017-03-06 19:20:10] Rado : j8: if that's the case they will not shut it down
[2017-03-06 19:20:15] Rado : rather transition users
[2017-03-06 19:20:33] Rado : I think CLEF business model sucked
[2017-03-06 19:21:15] j8 : yeah i guess they would try to transition users. they did say they're joining another company though, so a competitor makes the most sense
[2017-03-06 19:22:20] Rado : when is the new quarterly coming out?
[2017-03-06 19:23:12] Rado : after ETF decision?
[2017-03-06 19:23:17] j8 : should be the 17th
[2017-03-06 19:23:26] j8 : 2 weeks before settlement
[2017-03-06 19:23:29] Misfit : Does it always did like this right before funding?
[2017-03-06 19:23:35] Misfit : Dip*
[2017-03-06 19:23:54] Noobz : ok late to the convo here... But wouldn't it be an idea to have the possibility to lock the withdrawal address as another layer of safety?
[2017-03-06 19:25:06] rapidtrades : Rado: how do I accelerate a transaction?
[2017-03-06 19:25:07] sleger : or add a 24h lock to any new address
[2017-03-06 19:25:13] sleger : rapidtrades: pedal faster
[2017-03-06 19:25:35] Rado : rapidtrades: not sue what do you mean
[2017-03-06 19:25:49] rapidtrades : nvm
[2017-03-06 19:25:51] Noobz : rapidtrades: https://www.viabtc.com/tools/txaccelerator/
[2017-03-06 19:26:20] Rado : what has worked great the last few weeks is buy/sell when XBTH17 goes out of the BB bands
[2017-03-06 19:26:27] Noobz : sleger: 24 hour limit would delay it a lot too
[2017-03-06 19:26:41] sleger : by 24 hours yes
[2017-03-06 19:26:44] sleger : that's the point
[2017-03-06 19:26:50] Rado : rapidtrades: you had to pay a high fee when you initiated it
[2017-03-06 19:26:57] Rado : not sure there is a way after the fact
[2017-03-06 19:27:19] Noobz : 24 to 47:59 @sleger depending on when it is used and put in the batch
[2017-03-06 19:28:25] zy : what's going to happen if margin is less than funding?
[2017-03-06 19:28:34] zy : for a long position
[2017-03-06 19:29:05] sleger : guess
[2017-03-06 19:29:28] zy : liq?
[2017-03-06 19:29:35] sleger : yes
[2017-03-06 19:30:35] Kalman : Don't listen to sleger. Bitmex sends you a cheque to refund your account
[2017-03-06 19:30:42] sleger : actually im not 100% sure as they put some margin aside for funding, not sure where it's accounted for @zy
[2017-03-06 19:30:53] sleger : but dont listen to kalman, he's obviously a troll
[2017-03-06 19:31:18] Rado : I remember BitMEX said that funding will not trigger liquidation
[2017-03-06 19:31:24] zy : you all terrible people
[2017-03-06 19:31:40] rapidtrades : Noobz: DOESN'T WORK
[2017-03-06 19:32:19] sleger : no shit, why would they add cheap transactions unless they dont have to
[2017-03-06 19:32:37] j8 : funding will not trigger a liquidation, but the change in mark price immediately after funding might
[2017-03-06 19:32:40] sleger : Rado: yes but what about the next funding or the one after that
[2017-03-06 19:32:59] Rado : sleger: hmm no idea
[2017-03-06 19:33:00] sleger : exactly, at some point funding can liquidate, indirectly
[2017-03-06 19:33:23] Rado : buying the dip worked again
[2017-03-06 19:33:26] sleger : the jump in mark is the preserve of next funding
[2017-03-06 19:33:32] Zen Trader : lots of peeps buying btc this week at our local atm ... sign of the times
[2017-03-06 19:33:33] Rado : I wish I can buy bigger size on H17
[2017-03-06 19:33:45] -_- : Rado: what's holding you back
[2017-03-06 19:33:51] Noobz : rapidtrades: it's the only accelerator I know. I have only used it for incoming tx and it seemed to work for that.
[2017-03-06 19:34:00] Rado : -_-: liquidity
[2017-03-06 19:34:00] Zen Trader : I dont think 1335 by today / tomorrow mabye after a correction totally not impossible
[2017-03-06 19:34:25] Rado : if you buy 100k at market price will go up at least $5
[2017-03-06 19:34:36] mtourig3 : 1000 btc buy wall
[2017-03-06 19:34:38] Rado : also there is a $2 spread on top of that
[2017-03-06 19:34:45] mtourig3 : stamp[
[2017-03-06 19:34:48] -_- : but price just dumped to 1301
[2017-03-06 19:35:10] Rado : -_-: and you could not buy 100k at 1301
[2017-03-06 19:35:15] Rado : that's my point
[2017-03-06 19:35:38] mtourig3 : she about to pop
[2017-03-06 19:35:40] -_- : but buy 100k at 1305-1307 instead of buying big 1313-1317 now
[2017-03-06 19:36:05] Rado : -_-: you don't seem to get my point
[2017-03-06 19:36:12] Rado : I am not saying I can not make money
[2017-03-06 19:36:17] Rado : just I can't make more of it
[2017-03-06 19:37:25] -_- : price is moving too much for 1 person to put 100k walls on both sides of the price
[2017-03-06 19:37:31] -_- : at all times
[2017-03-06 19:37:59] -_- : anyways short swap now to get that sweet sweet funding
[2017-03-06 19:38:00] Rado : There was an MM that was quoting 25k before
[2017-03-06 19:38:02] Rado : much better
[2017-03-06 19:38:13] Rado : I would love it if there is on that does 50k
[2017-03-06 19:38:40] ferpozie : guess its better to use as low leverage and if you get a better or good price gain, swipe to a larger leverage and take profit?
[2017-03-06 19:39:11] j8 : especially with the price increase, the btc notional quoted is way down
[2017-03-06 19:39:13] Rado : ferpozie: leverage doesn't increase your profit
[2017-03-06 19:40:52] ferpozie : Rado: what does leverage do? Itought based on the fact you can trade with 100 times more coins, you can make profit on the supposed larger trade which will increase your profit. Please correct me if I am wrong?
[2017-03-06 19:41:11] -_- : profit is based on position size (contracts)
[2017-03-06 19:41:19] rapidtrades : blockchain.info doesn't show estimate time anymore? none of the other sites seem to either
[2017-03-06 19:41:24] -_- : if you increase leverage from 5x to 20x you still are at same profit
[2017-03-06 19:41:30] Rado : ferpozie: you can't change your size after the trade was done
[2017-03-06 19:41:41] Rado : leverage just decreases your margin requirement
[2017-03-06 19:42:00] shapeshifter : anyone knows if theres a specific time of the day when SEC makes announcements?
[2017-03-06 19:42:18] micmix : rapidtrades: https://bitcoinfees.21.co/ shows estimated time based on fee
[2017-03-06 19:44:06] rapidtrades : micmix: seems wrong
[2017-03-06 19:44:11] micmix : anything below 100 sat/byte is pretty much dead
[2017-03-06 19:44:23] Rado : I actually think we will have a leak on the weekend on the ETF decision
[2017-03-06 19:44:23] rapidtrades : i sent with 80-100b fee and nothing in 12 hrs
[2017-03-06 19:44:43] j8 : it's an estimate.
[2017-03-06 19:44:56] j8 : and it's probably changed since you sent it
[2017-03-06 19:45:27] micmix : rapidtrades: need at least 120 sat/byte for normal conf time
[2017-03-06 19:45:54] micmix : bitcoin is getting expensive in trans cost as well
[2017-03-06 19:46:06] rapidtrades : so when
[2017-03-06 19:46:24] Hawkeye : next yr it should be done
[2017-03-06 19:46:28] j8 : 6 to inf blocks
[2017-03-06 19:46:35] micmix : check your tx on blockchain.info and tell me sat/byte @rapidtrades
[2017-03-06 19:47:04] rapidtrades : i told u, one is 80b other 101b
[2017-03-06 19:47:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `DASH7D`: buy 69 @ 0.037067
[2017-03-06 19:47:22] sleger : im gonna send a lot of spam transactions at 81b and 102b heheheh
[2017-03-06 19:47:29] startChat : how many satoshis/ btye
[2017-03-06 19:47:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `DASH7D`: buy 100 @ 0.037205
[2017-03-06 19:47:41] rapidtrades : startChat: are u stupid
[2017-03-06 19:47:53] startChat : rapidtrades: yes.
[2017-03-06 19:47:53] micmix : rapidtrades: 80 sat/b is dead until mempool clears
[2017-03-06 19:48:02] rapidtrades : tnx
[2017-03-06 19:48:03] sleger : he gonna ask how long
[2017-03-06 19:48:08] rapidtrades : and 101? @micmix
[2017-03-06 19:48:39] sleger : 101 can be in a few hours or never
[2017-03-06 19:48:47] sleger : depending on new transactions incoming
[2017-03-06 19:48:47] micmix : 102 should be 20-30 hours
[2017-03-06 19:48:55] rapidtrades : micmix: ok
[2017-03-06 19:49:09] micmix : if someone doesn't spam some more
[2017-03-06 19:49:14] jho : Anyone try to research outcomes of SEC decisions so close to a deadline? Have to assume there is some bias at this point.
[2017-03-06 19:49:14] rapidtrades : ur site says 19h max so w/e
[2017-03-06 19:49:24] j8 : so many units for fee rate.. i'm gonna go with bits per bit
[2017-03-06 19:49:37] startChat : rapidtrades: what wallet u send from
[2017-03-06 19:49:58] rapidtrades : this is a f joke, 20 cents plus fee and waiting for +12 hrs now
[2017-03-06 19:50:28] Rado : rapidtrades: because your are cheap
[2017-03-06 19:50:38] cg : maybe we'll see some strong support for BU soon and then we can have low fees again in as short as a few weeks potentially
[2017-03-06 19:50:39] Rado : send 0.75
[2017-03-06 19:50:40] micmix : sleger: btw, did you make your pre-announcement trade?
[2017-03-06 19:50:53] sleger : micmix: some yes
[2017-03-06 19:50:53] -_- : rapid just upset they gonna get margin called before being able to add more margin to their short position
[2017-03-06 19:51:09] micmix : sleger: nice
[2017-03-06 19:51:24] Rado : sleger: what is the trade?
[2017-03-06 19:51:37] sleger : Rado: it is unknown until after its realized
[2017-03-06 19:51:49] Kobe : -_-: What's a short swap?
[2017-03-06 19:53:48] -_- : Perpetual Swap
[2017-03-06 19:53:50] -_- : XBT
[2017-03-06 19:53:58] -_- : shorters get paid 0.2289% in 6 minutes
[2017-03-06 19:55:34] rapidtrades : micmix: so do i have a shot to have this included in next block? or will I keep getting leap-frogged by new transactions with higher fee?
[2017-03-06 19:56:45] j8 : it's a pool, not a queue.. you don't have priority based on how long you've waited
[2017-03-06 19:57:03] micmix : rapidtrades: higher fees get higher priority. you have to use 130-140 sat/b at least
[2017-03-06 19:57:23] rapidtrades : j8: h8er
[2017-03-06 19:57:28] rapidtrades : micmix: too late for that now
[2017-03-06 19:57:36] rapidtrades : wallet said 5m to 5 hrs when i sent
[2017-03-06 19:57:48] micmix : everyone wants to sell their coins while they are hot
[2017-03-06 19:58:16] sleger : 0kc usd has max transaction fee set to 0.0005 lol
[2017-03-06 19:58:19] rapidtrades : micmix: how do i accelerate
[2017-03-06 19:58:23] sleger : they dont want people to withdraw
[2017-03-06 19:58:27] sleger : pedal faster
[2017-03-06 19:58:44] rapidtrades : sleger: ur not funny
[2017-03-06 19:58:50] sleger : but you are
[2017-03-06 19:58:52] micmix : rapidtrades: try https://www.viabtc.com/tools/txaccelerator/ for 101 sat/b trans
[2017-03-06 19:58:54] Dynamix : long boys ;)
[2017-03-06 19:59:04] rapidtrades : micmix: tried, limit hit
[2017-03-06 19:59:27] micmix : then you are stuck if your wallet doesn't support RBF
[2017-03-06 20:00:06] Dynamix : Panic ? No panic
[2017-03-06 20:00:06] Dynamix : Panic ? No panic ...
[2017-03-06 20:00:11] startChat : here you can use visa card. https://pushtx.btc.com/
[2017-03-06 20:00:27] -_- : lol
[2017-03-06 20:00:37] rustiv : wow interface locked and massiv buy on XBTUSD
[2017-03-06 20:00:37] startChat : :)
[2017-03-06 20:00:49] rustiv : that was not nice
[2017-03-06 20:00:52] sleger : rustiv: its called funding
[2017-03-06 20:00:57] cg : funding
[2017-03-06 20:01:12] rustiv : no trading while funding?
[2017-03-06 20:01:20] sleger : only for VIP
[2017-03-06 20:01:29] -_- : 3-4 second trading gets suspended for
[2017-03-06 20:01:29] sleger : you need a green username
[2017-03-06 20:01:45] micmix : or micmix username
[2017-03-06 20:01:51] sleger : keep dreaming
[2017-03-06 20:01:59] rustiv : how to get there?
[2017-03-06 20:02:00] rustiv : big bags?
[2017-03-06 20:02:13] sleger : if you have to ask ...
[2017-03-06 20:02:14] Rado : rustiv: send me 1 BTC
[2017-03-06 20:02:22] Rado : I will make it happen for you
[2017-03-06 20:02:30] rustiv : rofl
[2017-03-06 20:02:32] rustiv : shady af
[2017-03-06 20:02:35] rustiv : ^^
[2017-03-06 20:02:39] sleger : yes he's blue
[2017-03-06 20:02:41] sleger : dont trust him
[2017-03-06 20:03:12] -_- : if BTC going to be boring till ETF decision it is gonna be a long work
[2017-03-06 20:03:14] micmix : rustiv: take Arthur out for drinks and ask nicely
[2017-03-06 20:03:21] -_- : long work week*
[2017-03-06 20:03:43] odieoh : I don't think there is
[2017-03-06 20:03:46] Hawkeye : Someone push btc off the stairs so we get a dip
[2017-03-06 20:03:59] rustiv : colors are completely random
[2017-03-06 20:04:09] Rado2 : rustiv: See I am legit
[2017-03-06 20:04:11] rustiv : larping hard
[2017-03-06 20:04:38] rustiv : wow your message is always bold
[2017-03-06 20:04:43] rustiv : =legit?
[2017-03-06 20:05:07] micmix : rustiv: everyone's message is bold
[2017-03-06 20:05:13] Rado2 : lol
[2017-03-06 20:05:15] -_- : **huh**
[2017-03-06 20:05:20] rustiv : wow
[2017-03-06 20:05:22] rustiv : double bold
[2017-03-06 20:05:25] -_- : o
[2017-03-06 20:05:27] rustiv : this guy is legit
[2017-03-06 20:05:35] -_- : **too legit too quit**
[2017-03-06 20:05:35] Rado2 : micmix: don't stop the fun
[2017-03-06 20:05:56] -_- : _buy the top_
[2017-03-06 20:06:06] Rado : By the way it's 4 AM here
[2017-03-06 20:06:11] Rado : I've been up since 2:30 AM
[2017-03-06 20:06:19] Rado : got a stomac bug
[2017-03-06 20:06:25] Rado : stomach
[2017-03-06 20:06:33] -_- : i'm gonna need a whale to dump on stamp
[2017-03-06 20:06:35] Rado : damn Malaysian food
[2017-03-06 20:07:02] Hawkeye : Rado: special vx sauce?
[2017-03-06 20:07:17] Rado : I guess
[2017-03-06 20:07:38] rapidtrades : micmix: so that accelerator has min fee of 100b?
[2017-03-06 20:07:48] micmix : rapidtrades: yes
[2017-03-06 20:08:00] rapidtrades : useless then
[2017-03-06 20:08:07] Rado : rapidtrades: just pay the damn fee
[2017-03-06 20:08:13] Hawkeye : or wait
[2017-03-06 20:09:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: sell 71 @ 0.015670
[2017-03-06 20:09:35] sleger : or use ETH
[2017-03-06 20:09:50] inconspic : was it when bitmex announced adding dash the rally began?
[2017-03-06 20:10:20] zy : funding rate is dropping
[2017-03-06 20:10:31] Rado : see ya all later
[2017-03-06 20:12:55] rustiv : finex looks ready to pop
[2017-03-06 20:13:35] Hawkeye : sink it !
[2017-03-06 20:14:38] Hawkeye : darn fake internet money ;)
[2017-03-06 20:14:58] Hawkeye : Alternative money !
[2017-03-06 20:15:13] mtourig3 : rustiv: yup
[2017-03-06 20:15:19] mtourig3 : so does stamp
[2017-03-06 20:18:04] rapidtrades : accelerator my ass, still wiaitng
[2017-03-06 20:18:15] rapidtrades : don't worry tho, bitcoin is near all time highs
[2017-03-06 20:20:13] reyno : pop up or down haha?
[2017-03-06 20:20:37] Actualiteit : reyno: yes
[2017-03-06 20:21:23] sleger : rapid has a point, how can bitcoin grow much further if nigerians cant afford the fee ?
[2017-03-06 20:22:54] Ahhere : sleger: im pretty sure thats racist
[2017-03-06 20:23:11] sleger : statistics, nigerians are poor
[2017-03-06 20:23:37] Actualiteit : Ahhere: yeah dey raciss
[2017-03-06 20:24:26] rapidtrades : https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/5xvd7v/gbtc_premium_has_shot_up_from_8_to_16_today_i/
[2017-03-06 20:26:11] rapidtrades : @Nerve how long did u wait for the accelerator to kick in
[2017-03-06 20:27:10] -_- : largest BTC mining pool signaling for Bitcoin Unlimited
[2017-03-06 20:27:23] -_- : soon high fees will be a thing of the past
[2017-03-06 20:27:27] jphamer1 : any news on when withdrawals in china will be working yet?
[2017-03-06 20:27:33] -_- : no
[2017-03-06 20:27:45] -_- : although some smaller exchanges have enabled them
[2017-03-06 20:29:10] Ahhere : can BU and segwit both be activated.. I mean the losing one be added later?
[2017-03-06 20:31:54] Whaler : yes
[2017-03-06 20:38:38] Ahhere : dash getting testy time to short that mother
[2017-03-06 20:39:07] CutTheLosses : funding is hungry and eats all my profits LoL
[2017-03-06 20:42:31] rapidtrades : https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/5xr6l1/daily_discussion_monday_march_06_2017/dekwarh/
[2017-03-06 20:42:34] rapidtrades : read that comment chain
[2017-03-06 20:43:09] rapidtrades : until GBTC premium started going up, everyone was saying 'OMG PREMIUM FALLING COS COIN WILL BE APPROVED AND ITS THEIR COMPEITITION''
[2017-03-06 20:43:34] rapidtrades : now rising premium signals what...u guessed it, ETF approval again
[2017-03-06 20:44:36] -_- : dumping
[2017-03-06 20:44:38] -_- : etf denied?
[2017-03-06 20:44:41] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 695 @ 1304.64
[2017-03-06 20:45:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 390000 @ 1300.55 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire:
[2017-03-06 20:45:03] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 150000 @ 1304.02 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:
[2017-03-06 20:45:30] NooBTCrader : noice
[2017-03-06 20:45:42] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 12000 @ 1273.37
[2017-03-06 20:46:03] cryptokeeper : Oh wow
[2017-03-06 20:46:05] -_- : wow big longs
[2017-03-06 20:46:13] -_- : manipulative dump i take it
[2017-03-06 20:46:25] rustiv : confident dip buyers lol
[2017-03-06 20:46:36] cryptokeeper : Yup
[2017-03-06 20:46:41] cryptokeeper : 10 lashes
[2017-03-06 20:46:43] rustiv : too fast for me
[2017-03-06 20:47:12] -_- : i bet okc quarterly and bitmex quarterly has same people
[2017-03-06 20:47:17] -_- : dump okc quarterly to rekt bitmex longs
[2017-03-06 20:47:32] wurstgelee : hahahaha
[2017-03-06 20:47:34] wurstgelee : so funny
[2017-03-06 20:47:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `DASH7D`: sell 600 @ 0.036546
[2017-03-06 20:47:43] -_- : but really 390k
[2017-03-06 20:47:48] -_- : Rado: was that you
[2017-03-06 20:47:49] wurstgelee : some guy posted a "etf denied" fake announcement in slack announcement channel
[2017-03-06 20:47:54] wurstgelee : thats the reason
[2017-03-06 20:48:00] wurstgelee : people panic-dumped
[2017-03-06 20:48:00] Actualiteit : lmao
[2017-03-06 20:48:04] j8 : lol
[2017-03-06 20:48:12] wurstgelee : great knife
[2017-03-06 20:48:13] wurstgelee : :D
[2017-03-06 20:48:46] j8 : won't be the only time this week i'm sure
[2017-03-06 20:49:10] rapidtrades : WINKLEVOSS PRESS CONFERENCE IN 12 MINS - COINDESK
[2017-03-06 20:49:21] CutTheLosses : LoL
[2017-03-06 20:49:47] rapidtrades : j/k :)
[2017-03-06 20:50:04] herpinator : last time there was a dip like the one that just happened I market sold and it lagged out and I got a short entry point at the VERY lowest sell lol thankfully I averaged out the position and got out just then
[2017-03-06 20:50:08] CutTheLosses : you moved swap +.$5
[2017-03-06 20:50:12] wurstgelee : ndkirby [9:49 PM] I sold 400 BTC on that wtf
[2017-03-06 20:50:13] wurstgelee : lol
[2017-03-06 20:50:17] wurstgelee : wow...just wow
[2017-03-06 20:50:26] rapidtrades : HodL
[2017-03-06 20:50:32] wurstgelee : it was just fud
[2017-03-06 20:50:38] CutTheLosses : jeez
[2017-03-06 20:50:42] Coconuter : my margin was reduced on this fall
[2017-03-06 20:50:48] Coconuter : lucky I wasn't stopped
[2017-03-06 20:50:48] rapidtrades : its never just fud @wurstgelee
[2017-03-06 20:50:51] Coconuter : fucking adl
[2017-03-06 20:50:51] wurstgelee : some troll used slack announcement system to post "ETF DENIED" announcement
[2017-03-06 20:50:53] rapidtrades : silly sausage
[2017-03-06 20:50:56] wurstgelee : there are 100s
[2017-03-06 20:51:01] wurstgelee : guys panic dumped
[2017-03-06 20:51:01] herpinator : lol dam
[2017-03-06 20:51:08] rustiv : bitconmarkets slack?
[2017-03-06 20:51:13] Farzad : hey guys :D
[2017-03-06 20:51:20] wurstgelee : https://reddit-bitcoinmarkets.slack.com/messages/etf/
[2017-03-06 20:51:22] wurstgelee : yep
[2017-03-06 20:51:23] BitMEX_Sam : @everyone We have almost completed an automated system for disabling Clef and transitioning to a new Two-Factor type
[2017-03-06 20:51:24] mick11877 : I shorted, what a prick
[2017-03-06 20:51:34] BitMEX_Sam : Clef will remain online for another 90 days, you may transition at your leisure.
[2017-03-06 20:51:36] rapidtrades : Farzad: dude make a webcrawler
[2017-03-06 20:51:37] cryptokeeper : Bitcoin markets slack. Meh
[2017-03-06 20:51:45] Farzad : rapidtrades: for what ?
[2017-03-06 20:51:59] wurstgelee : cryptokeeper: well...its meh. but it made me buy h17 in the lows 1290s
[2017-03-06 20:52:00] rapidtrades : Farzad: to post 'updates' when SEC pages change
[2017-03-06 20:52:03] wurstgelee : so totally worth it
[2017-03-06 20:52:04] wurstgelee : ;)
[2017-03-06 20:52:41] Farzad : rapidtrades: I guarantee you, you would have no time to react. people have bots to trade the SEC decision in milliseconds.
[2017-03-06 20:52:50] herpinator : thats where I bought also
[2017-03-06 20:53:01] rapidtrades : Farzad: i guarantee u, that's not true
[2017-03-06 20:53:18] rapidtrades : my trading skills are legendary
[2017-03-06 20:53:32] Farzad : rapidtrades: dude, I know, Trust me.
[2017-03-06 20:53:34] wurstgelee : yeah. everyone heard the great rapid n ZEc legend
[2017-03-06 20:53:41] herpinator : lol
[2017-03-06 20:53:49] rapidtrades : Farzad: u don't know, ur just a coder
[2017-03-06 20:54:12] Farzad : rapidtrades: I have 15+ years trading XP. lol
[2017-03-06 20:54:16] Farzad : are you kidding me ?
[2017-03-06 20:54:20] CBF : wots a sec?
[2017-03-06 20:54:32] Actualiteit : CBF: we got 60 of em in a min.
[2017-03-06 20:54:35] rapidtrades : XP? trading on windoze xp?
[2017-03-06 20:54:42] CBF : Actualiteit: kthnx
[2017-03-06 20:54:44] Farzad : rapidtrades: I'm pretty famous in forex community as well ;)
[2017-03-06 20:54:58] rapidtrades : Farzad: oh yea? who are u
[2017-03-06 20:54:59] hmmmYea : Farzad: which forex community?
[2017-03-06 20:55:02] Farzad : rapidtrades: XP = Experience
[2017-03-06 20:55:08] yungyang : BitMEX_Sam: you guys going to use authy?
[2017-03-06 20:55:15] donsteep : so person famous equals only facts spoken?
[2017-03-06 20:55:17] BitMEX_Sam : yungyang: We already support Authy
[2017-03-06 20:55:21] Farzad : hmmmYea: Like Forex-TSD for example
[2017-03-06 20:55:39] CutTheLosses : i am famous in my village
[2017-03-06 20:55:44] NooBTCrader : big boyz in the trollbox
[2017-03-06 20:55:50] yungyang : BitMEX_Sam: really
[2017-03-06 20:55:52] yungyang : soreceror
[2017-03-06 20:55:53] rapidtrades : im famous with ur moms! heyooo
[2017-03-06 20:56:01] y1uy : i think rapidtrades wins the trollbox toxic person award of the month
[2017-03-06 20:56:05] BitMEX_Sam : yungyang: Yes, Authy uses the same mechanism as Google Authenticator
[2017-03-06 20:56:08] cg : you guys really dump without actually checking because some random guy on a slack channel says etf denied? lmao
[2017-03-06 20:56:14] hmmmYea : Farzad: do u write algos?
[2017-03-06 20:56:29] Actualiteit : cg: yes. It is the pro btc trader way. Remember to buy high sell low!
[2017-03-06 20:56:31] yungyang : BitMEX_Sam: thanks pal
[2017-03-06 20:56:41] Farzad : hmmmYea: yes, I also code in MQ4 for meta trader
[2017-03-06 20:56:50] rustiv : /rekt
[2017-03-06 20:56:51] trollbot : ``` 16 hours, 52 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 52377 @ 1269.51 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:```
[2017-03-06 20:56:51] trollbot : ``` 11 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 390000 @ 1300.55 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire:```
[2017-03-06 20:56:51] trollbot : ``` 16 hours, 52 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 50000 @ 1269.19 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:```
[2017-03-06 20:56:51] trollbot : ``` 11 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 150000 @ 1304.02 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:```
[2017-03-06 20:57:05] CutTheLosses : 390k was hardcore
[2017-03-06 20:57:06] rustiv : poor rektosaurus
[2017-03-06 20:57:10] yungyang : BitMEX_Sam: so I just choose google and send it to authy
[2017-03-06 20:57:13] Ahhere : Nice lol
[2017-03-06 20:57:17] BitMEX_Sam : Correct
[2017-03-06 20:57:25] donsteep : is it true rektosaurus used to have feathers?
[2017-03-06 20:57:27] rustiv : how much bounty for the fudder?
[2017-03-06 20:57:53] rapidtrades : accelerator worked on 1 transaction
[2017-03-06 20:58:04] rapidtrades : rest are <100b so im screwed i guess
[2017-03-06 20:58:23] hmmmYea : metatrader is for retail mkt only, right?
[2017-03-06 21:00:38] rangle : the fake announcement.... wow
[2017-03-06 21:00:54] odieoh : Whats the record for the most rekt?
[2017-03-06 21:01:06] odieoh : that 390k had to be up there
[2017-03-06 21:01:30] hmmmYea : Farzad: can you contact me? I dont really know if there is a way to talk outside a trollbox conveniently
[2017-03-06 21:01:59] yungyang : Premium back on gbtc
[2017-03-06 21:02:13] y1uy : gbtc is a joke
[2017-03-06 21:02:18] CutTheLosses : omfgz
[2017-03-06 21:02:52] Farzad : hmmmYea: If u need coding, unfortunately I have no free time :)
[2017-03-06 21:03:13] odieoh : Premium going up on GBTC makes absolutely no sense in any scenario. ETF approved? Why would you pay a premium. ETF denied? Price of bitcoin gonna crash and you're paying a premium on the crash
[2017-03-06 21:03:50] hmmmYea : Farzad: more just to talk. i mainly write my own code.
[2017-03-06 21:04:04] hmmmYea : no big deal
[2017-03-06 21:04:35] rapidtrades : no free time, the old f*ck you
[2017-03-06 21:04:44] Farzad : hmmmYea: contact me @ : rahab [at] adminsehow.com
[2017-03-06 21:04:45] CutTheLosses : haha
[2017-03-06 21:04:50] Ahhere : rapidtrades: lol
[2017-03-06 21:04:51] bingbongfly : etf denied? someone said so
[2017-03-06 21:05:05] ross : /rekt
[2017-03-06 21:05:06] trollbot : ``` 20 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 390000 @ 1300.55 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire:```
[2017-03-06 21:05:06] trollbot : ``` 20 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 150000 @ 1304.02 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:```
[2017-03-06 21:05:06] trollbot : ``` 17 hours, ago: Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 50000 @ 1269.19 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:```
[2017-03-06 21:05:08] hmmmYea : Farzad: cool
[2017-03-06 21:05:34] Farzad : hmmmYea: ;)
[2017-03-06 21:05:46] Hawkeye : bingbongfly: aparently bs
[2017-03-06 21:05:55] hmmmYea : bingbongfly: fake news
[2017-03-06 21:06:07] rapidtrades : protip: its never BS
[2017-03-06 21:06:20] Farzad : odieoh: what is GBTC ?
[2017-03-06 21:06:51] odieoh : A stock or ETF that trades based on BTC price, but it trades at a huge premium over spot price
[2017-03-06 21:07:10] odieoh : Its an OTC instrument, I forget what its actually classifed as
[2017-03-06 21:07:17] odieoh : classified
[2017-03-06 21:07:29] Farzad : odieoh: at which exchange is it traded at ?
[2017-03-06 21:07:46] hmmmYea : its a trust that trades on the pink sheets. its a complete pile of poop, and people are reading wayyyyyy to much into it
[2017-03-06 21:07:47] j8 : gbtc is a closed-end fund i believe
[2017-03-06 21:07:52] odieoh : It's OTC (over the counter) the best I know
[2017-03-06 21:08:14] Farzad : ok ty for info
[2017-03-06 21:08:26] odieoh : so yeah, "pink sheets' like hmmm is saying-it's basically garbage but it does go up when BTC goes up, and down when BTC goes down
[2017-03-06 21:09:02] jho : OTCQX
[2017-03-06 21:09:06] odieoh : in recent weeks, the huge premium over spot was going down, presumably in anticipation of the ETF approval
[2017-03-06 21:10:10] hmmmYea : odieoh: stock lending on pink sheets is so f'd in general that it is very hard to determine that.
[2017-03-06 21:10:45] odieoh : to determine what?
[2017-03-06 21:11:50] hmmmYea : odieoh: there's very few shares short... and if you owned it, you owned bitcoin at 80%-ish premium to its actual value.. so you are definitely a bit of a moron.. and so if you are saying that the premium on gbtc is informed by the SEC odds, you are saying that the pay 80% over for bitcoin crowd is more informed than everyone else... that is very difficult for me to believe
[2017-03-06 21:13:45] odieoh : I don't own it and never said I did. . .and I didn't imply that people who do are more informed- they just know that," hey within a couple of weeks there might be a better instrument to use to trade bitcoin without all this premium, so I'm not going to pay the premium anymore."
[2017-03-06 21:14:10] hmmmYea : odieoh: what i wrote was very confusing
[2017-03-06 21:14:22] odieoh : i agree
[2017-03-06 21:15:24] rapidtrades : the point is the changing narrative
[2017-03-06 21:15:58] rapidtrades : once lower premium it signals etf approval, then higher premium signals etf approval
[2017-03-06 21:16:04] hmmmYea : odieoh: all the people influencing the price of GBTC are idiots. (or else they wouldn't have bought gbtc in the first place) they know nothing. the premium in GBTC is a consensus of fools
[2017-03-06 21:16:09] rapidtrades : means longs are full of shit and making it up as they go along
[2017-03-06 21:16:13] j8 : there's not much reason to hold gbtc if you're a bitcoin user, except maybe tax reasons, so many of the people holding it aren't trading on bitcoin markets
[2017-03-06 21:16:29] rapidtrades : same for COIN i guess ^
[2017-03-06 21:16:58] j8 : yes except COIN will track the price better
[2017-03-06 21:17:14] hmmmYea : odieoh: i might trade GBTC vs the consensus in the actual bitcoin market... but doing the inverse is an error.
[2017-03-06 21:18:00] rapidtrades : ur so full of shit, when u keep changing the facts u shoudl know how weak ur side is
[2017-03-06 21:18:21] hmmmYea : rapidtrades: what side am on?
[2017-03-06 21:18:36] rapidtrades : first china was great for bitcoin then baning china was great for bitcoin
[2017-03-06 21:18:36] Ahhere : The bad guise
[2017-03-06 21:18:45] rapidtrades : its a giant confidence scam
[2017-03-06 21:19:09] ross : rapidtrades: i have the bot
[2017-03-06 21:19:34] rapidtrades : actual pyramid scheme going on right now in bitcoin
[2017-03-06 21:19:45] hmmmYea : rapidtrades: bitcoin is obviously a confidence game. just like gold, and silver, and banks, and all currency, and all debt
[2017-03-06 21:19:47] rapidtrades : house of cards waiting to crumble
[2017-03-06 21:20:16] rapidtrades : hmmmYea: no not really, cos all those markets are regulated
[2017-03-06 21:20:25] hmmmYea : rapidtrades: the value of any money is a social construction
[2017-03-06 21:20:40] hmmmYea : rapidtrades: money and gold and credit existed LONNNNGGG before they were reglated
[2017-03-06 21:20:42] rapidtrades : ur not seeing faking finex printing 70m in fake currency for idiots to use and pump the price
[2017-03-06 21:21:09] rapidtrades : think what u want, these markets are a joke
[2017-03-06 21:21:25] hmmmYea : rapidtrades: if your point is that bitcoin is new and immature and unregulated, i would agree
[2017-03-06 21:21:32] rapidtrades : bitmex is prolly near the top and it too is more gambling shop then anything
[2017-03-06 21:22:05] rapidtrades : hmmmYea: ok so we agree
[2017-03-06 21:23:11] rejndjer : why did xbth17 dip half an hour ago?
[2017-03-06 21:23:30] Hawkeye : rejndjer: might have been a fake news on etf
[2017-03-06 21:23:32] jho : fake sec news
[2017-03-06 21:23:36] -_- : rejndjer: fake news
[2017-03-06 21:23:44] JT : alternative facts
[2017-03-06 21:23:46] rejndjer : crazy xD
[2017-03-06 21:23:50] CutTheLosses : CNN released fake news
[2017-03-06 21:23:53] Hawkeye : bitcoin banned china ! ;)
[2017-03-06 21:24:36] -_- : dont think SEC will announce anything today
[2017-03-06 21:24:48] Hawkeye : they might just silently let it be passed
[2017-03-06 21:24:51] rapidtrades : -_-: day not over yet bra
[2017-03-06 21:25:00] Hawkeye : then we get no big news other then time expired
[2017-03-06 21:25:02] rejndjer : -_-: depends if they're short or long xD
[2017-03-06 21:25:24] vgck : rejndjer: Some guys posted this in the slack channel : timewellspent 3:43 PM @channel ALERT!!! ETF DENIED!!!
[2017-03-06 21:25:50] rejndjer : lol and they say one man cant move the market
[2017-03-06 21:26:02] Ahhere : Lol i would like to buy that guy a drink
[2017-03-06 21:26:11] -_- : thing with ETF rejection is price could insta drop $60 in a second
[2017-03-06 21:26:22] -_- : not safe to be in a position i say