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<< >> English 中文 Русский 한국어 日本語 Español Français [2017-03-06 18:13:55] laisee : on target? [2017-03-06 18:13:59] Felix : jip [2017-03-06 18:14:22] Felix : Give me some more [2017-03-06 18:14:44] y1uy : damn clef is shutting down [2017-03-06 18:15:01] Felix : Come now - don't be shy [2017-03-06 18:15:13] Abelima : Give me some btc [2017-03-06 18:15:18] mtourig3 : once this reaches 100 we go parabolic for DAYS [2017-03-06 18:15:18] mtourig3 : https://trends.google.ca/trends/explore?date=all&q=buy%20bitcoin [2017-03-06 18:15:40] thegypsy : /wall [2017-03-06 18:16:52] Felix : mtourig3: That's inspiring! [2017-03-06 18:17:56] Felix : JT: I want a dump like that at 10 minutes before funding. Can you give us one? [2017-03-06 18:18:31] JT : Felix: I'll try - no promises [2017-03-06 18:18:45] Felix : :) [2017-03-06 18:18:45] wurstgelee : https://www.bloomberg.com/quote/COIN:US [2017-03-06 18:18:51] wurstgelee : a little bit early maybe [2017-03-06 18:18:53] wurstgelee : oO [2017-03-06 18:23:13] Felix : A jokes aside - my really worry is that as soon as we have this listing they will use the futures exchanges (i.e. BitMex etc.) to drive down the markets, to buy spot at low rates. Do not be surprised with a overnight 200 point drop and rise in one day. My true problem with this market is that it wants to be a currency but does not trade any currency fundamentals - the animal is truly just demand and supply still - vicious. [2017-03-06 18:23:26] cryptokeeper : wurstgelee: totally... that has been there for a week+ now [2017-03-06 18:23:42] cryptokeeper : schwarma time! [2017-03-06 18:23:45] wurstgelee : cryptokeeper: google cache for yday shows 4on4? [2017-03-06 18:23:49] wurstgelee : 404 ofc [2017-03-06 18:23:52] wurstgelee : oO [2017-03-06 18:24:06] cryptokeeper : wurstgelee: nope... it was there last week... i know because i manually went to the link [2017-03-06 18:24:10] odieoh : @felix how would one use the futures exchanges to drive down the market? [2017-03-06 18:24:22] wurstgelee : cryptokeeper: kk. doesnt mean much anyways, kinda funny [2017-03-06 18:24:23] wurstgelee : ;) [2017-03-06 18:24:26] cryptokeeper : yea [2017-03-06 18:24:29] cryptokeeper : means nothing really [2017-03-06 18:24:36] Ahhere : So I guess there'll be fake pumps and dumps all week everyone on edge waiting for the real insider trade move [2017-03-06 18:24:43] cryptokeeper : just bloomberg doing their thing.... does anyone have access to bloomberg terminal? [2017-03-06 18:26:58] Felix : odieoh: We do it regularly in the commodities markets. Futures markets are leveraged and less liquid - creates anxiety in spot market as well as pressure on open interest. Cornering the Bitcoin market will be precious - what you need to do is have the biggest hand by far with a lot of small hands - that's it - and that is exactly what we will have in a few day;s time. [2017-03-06 18:30:38] odieoh : @felix I don't you can really work it the same way with bitmex futures can you? The mark price is the difference- the value of the contracts here is literally pegged to spot price at least partially, so you can't artificially drive it down without just making trades at a loss [2017-03-06 18:30:55] men : some people says that SEC decision will be out today or tomorrow.. have u listen to these rumors too? [2017-03-06 18:31:10] mtourig3 : men: who you hear that from? [2017-03-06 18:31:59] Felix : "sources say".. hmm - tell us who it is [2017-03-06 18:32:04] men : some important people on the polo trollbox [2017-03-06 18:32:27] JT : oh so some important trolls then [2017-03-06 18:32:32] men : lol [2017-03-06 18:32:33] men : not [2017-03-06 18:32:51] men : not a troll.... [2017-03-06 18:32:52] Felix : odieoh: no you can - this market just does not have a real market maker yet.... soon to come. [2017-03-06 18:33:36] Felix : men: funny... funny! lol [2017-03-06 18:37:56] wagwanbebe : what assurances do I have Bitmex wont exit scam if the ETF goes ahead :) [2017-03-06 18:38:32] odieoh : @felix but unless they change the underlying formula to compute the mark price, what good does a difference in market maker make? If the mark price is 1,000, and you start opening trades at 950, you can do that all day long and it's not going to move the spot prices. Especially given that Bitmex prices aren't factored in to any of the common places people look for prices- coinmarketcap.com and bitcoinwisdom.com [2017-03-06 18:38:35] datboiyuan : wagwanbebe: no assurances, cp risk fam [2017-03-06 18:38:39] datboiyuan : fingers crossed! [2017-03-06 18:39:04] wagwanbebe : datboiyuan: trust nobody fam [2017-03-06 18:39:21] wagwanbebe : not even my cat mr fluffy [2017-03-06 18:39:34] odieoh : @felix I guess I just disagree that people are looking at bitmex futures prices as a way to guide their spot trading prices, if that is your assertion [2017-03-06 18:40:10] j8 : odieoh: if someone is selling the swap $50 under spot, i will be buying it, and selling spot [2017-03-06 18:40:32] j8 : arbitrage makes up a huge percentage of the bitcoin markets imo [2017-03-06 18:40:42] odieoh : Me too. But he is saying people are going to use futures to drive down overall prices [2017-03-06 18:41:20] j8 : makes more sense on bitmex that traditional markets [2017-03-06 18:41:50] j8 : since you are not liable for your position, just 0.5% maintenance margin [2017-03-06 18:44:12] zy : why is the predicted fundding much lower than the current one? [2017-03-06 18:44:33] odieoh : well the bottom line is that the mark price is based on OKC price and bitstamp price, so if you start undercutting the mark price, and no one trading on those exchanges cares, and they don't start trading at lower prices, you're just giving away free money to whoever takes your trade [2017-03-06 18:49:05] Zen Trader : Thus we may know that there are five essentials for victory: 1 He will win who knows when to fight and when not to fight. 2 He will win who knows how to handle both superior and inferior forces. 3 He will win whose army is animated by the same spirit throughout all its ranks. 4 He will win who, prepared himself, waits to take the enemy unprepared. 5 He will win who has military capacity and is not interfered with by the sovereign.” ― Sun Tzu, The Art of War [2017-03-06 18:51:35] Rado : bitMex mods CLEF is shutting down, any alternatives? [2017-03-06 18:52:27] j8 : some of them will care, because there's "free money" by arbitrage. they sell spot, buy swap and before long the price rockets up, the manipulator gets liquidated but bought spot, the arber gets ADL'd and sold spot @odieoh [2017-03-06 18:53:34] BitMEX_Greg : Rado: At this time we only have Google Authenticator (Authy) as the other alternative for 2FA [2017-03-06 18:53:48] Abelima : Newbie anyone can help me how to trade [2017-03-06 18:53:55] Rado : BitMEX_Greg: :( not really an alternative [2017-03-06 18:54:07] Rado : hate typing numbers [2017-03-06 18:54:15] Felix : odieoh: A big player will influence futures prices cross the board, and will thus influence spot players willingness to buy o r sell. (wrote you two essays with a BIG explanation) , was deleted twice - apparently trollbox can just take so much:) [2017-03-06 18:54:26] carl : Abelima: how much cap space do you have [2017-03-06 18:54:34] carl : I've got a few prospects I could unload for a center [2017-03-06 18:54:39] carl : We could also use a few defencemen [2017-03-06 18:54:48] carl : Blue lines looking pretty weak heading into playoffs [2017-03-06 18:55:25] Abelima : 2mbtc [2017-03-06 18:55:34] ripcord : BitMEX_Greg: Google Authenitcator and Authy are two different things [2017-03-06 18:55:44] llugo : bitmex_greg, is there any other way to know if i placed a hidden [2017-03-06 18:56:02] llugo : order other than not seeing it in the orderbook? [2017-03-06 18:56:10] Abelima : How much limit for trade [2017-03-06 18:56:20] j8 : waiting for bitmex to implement U2F and/or Trezor Connect [2017-03-06 18:56:43] Rado : Trezor Connect will be nice [2017-03-06 18:57:01] j8 : trezor can do U2F too [2017-03-06 18:57:13] Abelima : carl: Can u help me how to begin [2017-03-06 18:57:36] Rado : 1200 users [2017-03-06 18:57:42] Rado : chat is getting busy again [2017-03-06 18:59:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `DASH7D`: buy 10 @ 0.036196 [2017-03-06 19:00:15] -_- : DASH and XMR [2017-03-06 19:01:16] -_- : XMR 0.013 incoming [2017-03-06 19:01:21] startChat : j8: plans for trezor connect? [2017-03-06 19:01:49] j8 : not that i'm aware of [2017-03-06 19:02:35] j8 : they haven't said anything about 2fa in a while, maybe with clef shutting down they'll have another look [2017-03-06 19:03:27] sleger : is there a way to prevent a last minute withdrawal request ? [2017-03-06 19:03:38] Rado : sleger: email support [2017-03-06 19:04:17] carl : Abelima: go on the testnet and fuck around [2017-03-06 19:04:28] carl : Abelima: if you don't even know how to trade don't use your own money [2017-03-06 19:04:52] carl : you will get obliterated by trading legends like rapidtrades [2017-03-06 19:05:02] -_- : someone closed out a bunch of contracts [2017-03-06 19:05:13] j8 : pgp encrypted emails gives you another factor for withdrawals if you're not doing it already [2017-03-06 19:05:51] sleger : good point [2017-03-06 19:06:06] sleger : wonder what happened with that guy earlier who got hacked although he had 2FA [2017-03-06 19:06:08] Rado : -_-: also opened [2017-03-06 19:06:21] sleger : the hacker was stupid to request a withdrawal 18hours before the window.... [2017-03-06 19:06:27] -_- : total contracts for march went down 500,000 [2017-03-06 19:06:34] BitMEX_Sam : sleger: We contacted him and handled it [2017-03-06 19:06:40] sleger : can you explain ? [2017-03-06 19:06:48] BitMEX_Sam : j8: Yes, we are working with Clef to do a safe deactivation [2017-03-06 19:07:02] BitMEX_Sam : sleger: Not in specifics, no, as it involves client data [2017-03-06 19:07:18] BitMEX_Sam : We intend to implement U2F soon. [2017-03-06 19:07:25] j8 : :thumbsup: [2017-03-06 19:07:33] sleger : would be good to know what was done so that someone can hack into a 2FA protected account [2017-03-06 19:07:37] Rado : ? [2017-03-06 19:07:39] sleger : to avoid doing the same mistakes [2017-03-06 19:07:44] BitMEX_Sam : Greg also forgot to mention we support Yubikey [2017-03-06 19:07:58] BitMEX_Sam : sleger: It appears the attacker had access to the user's phone, which was being used for Google Auth as well [2017-03-06 19:08:07] BitMEX_Sam : So email + GA + reset password = account breach [2017-03-06 19:08:09] sleger : SIM copy then [2017-03-06 19:08:12] Rado : sleger: I think his phone got hacked with some kind of application [2017-03-06 19:08:19] BitMEX_Sam : Wouldn't be a SIM copy, no [2017-03-06 19:08:33] BitMEX_Sam : SIM copies are good for subverting SMS 2FA but not 2FA via a local app, or a user's email [2017-03-06 19:08:54] BitMEX_Sam : PGP + Google Auth or Yubikey is the safest option [2017-03-06 19:09:19] sleger : if my phone is an iphone where i use 2FA and only I have access to it then i couldnt be hacked like that guy ? [2017-03-06 19:09:26] sleger : 2fa via google auth [2017-03-06 19:09:37] BitMEX_Sam : Unless the iphone itself were compromised, but if it doesn't also have access to your email account the risk is low [2017-03-06 19:09:49] BitMEX_Sam : We are big fans of Yubikeys here for that reason, nothing beats an offline physical device [2017-03-06 19:09:59] BitMEX_Sam : U2F will also fill that gap [2017-03-06 19:10:33] tb : so sad [2017-03-06 19:10:39] tb : clef was the best 2fa system by far [2017-03-06 19:10:49] Rado : I liked it [2017-03-06 19:10:56] Rado : easy to use [2017-03-06 19:10:56] sleger : clef sucked if you didnt have cell phone reception though [2017-03-06 19:11:05] tb : bitmex admins: did you guys have to pay to use clef? [2017-03-06 19:11:10] tb : like per login or per user? [2017-03-06 19:11:12] Rado : sleger: you mean data [2017-03-06 19:11:16] wurstgelee : hm. antpool isnt supposed to mine BU iirc? [2017-03-06 19:11:31] wurstgelee : https://twitter.com/WhalePanda/status/838827733505441792 [2017-03-06 19:11:32] sleger : yubikey works to connect with an iphone ? (no usb) [2017-03-06 19:11:39] wurstgelee : they apparently do now [2017-03-06 19:11:43] j8 : seems silly to depend on a third party for login though. that was always my issue with clef [2017-03-06 19:12:26] sleger : so fo yubikey i have to carry the stick everywhere AND also a lightning to usb adapter ? [2017-03-06 19:12:45] Rado : sleger: I don't like this as well [2017-03-06 19:12:57] Rado : j8: everything should be decentralized [2017-03-06 19:13:10] Rado : no central company or server will be best for apps like that [2017-03-06 19:13:13] j8 : apple wants you to bring a briefcase full of adapters with you everywhere [2017-03-06 19:13:16] wurstgelee : yeah ok, that explains it. nobody cares here, market doesn do anything either oO [2017-03-06 19:13:21] wurstgelee : *t [2017-03-06 19:13:23] j8 : Rado: definitely [2017-03-06 19:13:54] Rado : wurstgelee: what's that? [2017-03-06 19:14:06] wurstgelee : whats what? [2017-03-06 19:14:09] wurstgelee : antpool? BU=? [2017-03-06 19:14:11] thomaskikansha : dashing [2017-03-06 19:14:23] Rado : wurstgelee: oh yeah no one cares about BU [2017-03-06 19:14:33] Whaler : yet [2017-03-06 19:14:38] wurstgelee : well, if antpool switched to mining BU [2017-03-06 19:14:43] wurstgelee : this is sth to care about imo [2017-03-06 19:15:14] sleger : j8: you use a physical u2f device ? [2017-03-06 19:15:28] rejndjer : if i am long and i want to lower my liq. price,then i should add btc to my margin? [2017-03-06 19:15:38] Rado : wurstgelee: people don't care what the scaling solution is as long as there is one [2017-03-06 19:15:39] j8 : sleger: i would use a trezor for u2f [2017-03-06 19:15:48] j8 : rather than buy something else [2017-03-06 19:16:05] sleger : i have a nano s [2017-03-06 19:16:10] sleger : its not tiny though [2017-03-06 19:16:28] wurstgelee : Rado: if u dont see how this affects the chances of egwit every getting activated, i cant help you [2017-03-06 19:16:35] wurstgelee : *segwit [2017-03-06 19:16:38] sleger : "Furthermore Nano S can manage multiple applications such as Bitcoin, Ethereum or FIDO U2F (strong authentication)." [2017-03-06 19:16:58] Rado : wurstgelee: segwit doesn't have a chance anyway [2017-03-06 19:17:19] Rado : I like it, but 95% to activate is imposibble [2017-03-06 19:17:20] j8 : yep looks like they support it also [2017-03-06 19:17:24] wurstgelee : i dont disagree - but it paints a different picture now [2017-03-06 19:17:26] wurstgelee : more obvious [2017-03-06 19:18:10] Rado : wurstgelee: where did you read the news about BU? [2017-03-06 19:18:19] wurstgelee : this would usually be enough for a serious spike down, pobviously not in ETF decision week [2017-03-06 19:18:24] wurstgelee : *-p [2017-03-06 19:18:25] wurstgelee : :) [2017-03-06 19:18:40] wurstgelee : Rado: twitter. and block explorer confirms it [2017-03-06 19:18:58] wurstgelee : last two blocks mined by antpool are BU blocks [2017-03-06 19:19:31] Rado : I watched an interview with Roger Ver and Ton Vase [2017-03-06 19:19:45] Rado : to tell you the truth Roger had more credability [2017-03-06 19:19:48] MikeHunt : btfd should be relatively safe until etf decision (fail) [2017-03-06 19:19:50] j8 : i'm guessing Authy bought Clef [2017-03-06 19:20:10] Rado : j8: if that's the case they will not shut it down [2017-03-06 19:20:15] Rado : rather transition users [2017-03-06 19:20:33] Rado : I think CLEF business model sucked [2017-03-06 19:21:15] j8 : yeah i guess they would try to transition users. they did say they're joining another company though, so a competitor makes the most sense [2017-03-06 19:22:20] Rado : when is the new quarterly coming out? [2017-03-06 19:23:12] Rado : after ETF decision? [2017-03-06 19:23:17] j8 : should be the 17th [2017-03-06 19:23:26] j8 : 2 weeks before settlement [2017-03-06 19:23:29] Misfit : Does it always did like this right before funding? [2017-03-06 19:23:35] Misfit : Dip* [2017-03-06 19:23:54] Noobz : ok late to the convo here... But wouldn't it be an idea to have the possibility to lock the withdrawal address as another layer of safety? [2017-03-06 19:25:06] rapidtrades : Rado: how do I accelerate a transaction? [2017-03-06 19:25:07] sleger : or add a 24h lock to any new address [2017-03-06 19:25:13] sleger : rapidtrades: pedal faster [2017-03-06 19:25:35] Rado : rapidtrades: not sue what do you mean [2017-03-06 19:25:49] rapidtrades : nvm [2017-03-06 19:25:51] Noobz : rapidtrades: https://www.viabtc.com/tools/txaccelerator/ [2017-03-06 19:26:20] Rado : what has worked great the last few weeks is buy/sell when XBTH17 goes out of the BB bands [2017-03-06 19:26:27] Noobz : sleger: 24 hour limit would delay it a lot too [2017-03-06 19:26:41] sleger : by 24 hours yes [2017-03-06 19:26:44] sleger : that's the point [2017-03-06 19:26:50] Rado : rapidtrades: you had to pay a high fee when you initiated it [2017-03-06 19:26:57] Rado : not sure there is a way after the fact [2017-03-06 19:27:19] Noobz : 24 to 47:59 @sleger depending on when it is used and put in the batch [2017-03-06 19:28:25] zy : what's going to happen if margin is less than funding? [2017-03-06 19:28:34] zy : for a long position [2017-03-06 19:29:05] sleger : guess [2017-03-06 19:29:28] zy : liq? [2017-03-06 19:29:35] sleger : yes [2017-03-06 19:30:35] Kalman : Don't listen to sleger. Bitmex sends you a cheque to refund your account [2017-03-06 19:30:42] sleger : actually im not 100% sure as they put some margin aside for funding, not sure where it's accounted for @zy [2017-03-06 19:30:53] sleger : but dont listen to kalman, he's obviously a troll [2017-03-06 19:31:18] Rado : I remember BitMEX said that funding will not trigger liquidation [2017-03-06 19:31:24] zy : you all terrible people [2017-03-06 19:31:40] rapidtrades : Noobz: DOESN'T WORK [2017-03-06 19:32:19] sleger : no shit, why would they add cheap transactions unless they dont have to [2017-03-06 19:32:37] j8 : funding will not trigger a liquidation, but the change in mark price immediately after funding might [2017-03-06 19:32:40] sleger : Rado: yes but what about the next funding or the one after that [2017-03-06 19:32:59] Rado : sleger: hmm no idea [2017-03-06 19:33:00] sleger : exactly, at some point funding can liquidate, indirectly [2017-03-06 19:33:23] Rado : buying the dip worked again [2017-03-06 19:33:26] sleger : the jump in mark is the preserve of next funding [2017-03-06 19:33:32] Zen Trader : lots of peeps buying btc this week at our local atm ... sign of the times [2017-03-06 19:33:33] Rado : I wish I can buy bigger size on H17 [2017-03-06 19:33:45] -_- : Rado: what's holding you back [2017-03-06 19:33:51] Noobz : rapidtrades: it's the only accelerator I know. I have only used it for incoming tx and it seemed to work for that. [2017-03-06 19:34:00] Rado : -_-: liquidity [2017-03-06 19:34:00] Zen Trader : I dont think 1335 by today / tomorrow mabye after a correction totally not impossible [2017-03-06 19:34:25] Rado : if you buy 100k at market price will go up at least $5 [2017-03-06 19:34:36] mtourig3 : 1000 btc buy wall [2017-03-06 19:34:38] Rado : also there is a $2 spread on top of that [2017-03-06 19:34:45] mtourig3 : stamp[ [2017-03-06 19:34:48] -_- : but price just dumped to 1301 [2017-03-06 19:35:10] Rado : -_-: and you could not buy 100k at 1301 [2017-03-06 19:35:15] Rado : that's my point [2017-03-06 19:35:38] mtourig3 : she about to pop [2017-03-06 19:35:40] -_- : but buy 100k at 1305-1307 instead of buying big 1313-1317 now [2017-03-06 19:36:05] Rado : -_-: you don't seem to get my point [2017-03-06 19:36:12] Rado : I am not saying I can not make money [2017-03-06 19:36:17] Rado : just I can't make more of it [2017-03-06 19:37:25] -_- : price is moving too much for 1 person to put 100k walls on both sides of the price [2017-03-06 19:37:31] -_- : at all times [2017-03-06 19:37:59] -_- : anyways short swap now to get that sweet sweet funding [2017-03-06 19:38:00] Rado : There was an MM that was quoting 25k before [2017-03-06 19:38:02] Rado : much better [2017-03-06 19:38:13] Rado : I would love it if there is on that does 50k [2017-03-06 19:38:40] ferpozie : guess its better to use as low leverage and if you get a better or good price gain, swipe to a larger leverage and take profit? [2017-03-06 19:39:11] j8 : especially with the price increase, the btc notional quoted is way down [2017-03-06 19:39:13] Rado : ferpozie: leverage doesn't increase your profit [2017-03-06 19:40:52] ferpozie : Rado: what does leverage do? Itought based on the fact you can trade with 100 times more coins, you can make profit on the supposed larger trade which will increase your profit. Please correct me if I am wrong? [2017-03-06 19:41:11] -_- : profit is based on position size (contracts) [2017-03-06 19:41:19] rapidtrades : blockchain.info doesn't show estimate time anymore? none of the other sites seem to either [2017-03-06 19:41:24] -_- : if you increase leverage from 5x to 20x you still are at same profit [2017-03-06 19:41:30] Rado : ferpozie: you can't change your size after the trade was done [2017-03-06 19:41:41] Rado : leverage just decreases your margin requirement [2017-03-06 19:42:00] shapeshifter : anyone knows if theres a specific time of the day when SEC makes announcements? [2017-03-06 19:42:18] micmix : rapidtrades: https://bitcoinfees.21.co/ shows estimated time based on fee [2017-03-06 19:44:06] rapidtrades : micmix: seems wrong [2017-03-06 19:44:11] micmix : anything below 100 sat/byte is pretty much dead [2017-03-06 19:44:23] Rado : I actually think we will have a leak on the weekend on the ETF decision [2017-03-06 19:44:23] rapidtrades : i sent with 80-100b fee and nothing in 12 hrs [2017-03-06 19:44:43] j8 : it's an estimate. [2017-03-06 19:44:56] j8 : and it's probably changed since you sent it [2017-03-06 19:45:27] micmix : rapidtrades: need at least 120 sat/byte for normal conf time [2017-03-06 19:45:54] micmix : bitcoin is getting expensive in trans cost as well [2017-03-06 19:46:06] rapidtrades : so when [2017-03-06 19:46:24] Hawkeye : next yr it should be done [2017-03-06 19:46:28] j8 : 6 to inf blocks [2017-03-06 19:46:35] micmix : check your tx on blockchain.info and tell me sat/byte @rapidtrades [2017-03-06 19:47:04] rapidtrades : i told u, one is 80b other 101b [2017-03-06 19:47:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `DASH7D`: buy 69 @ 0.037067 [2017-03-06 19:47:22] sleger : im gonna send a lot of spam transactions at 81b and 102b heheheh [2017-03-06 19:47:29] startChat : how many satoshis/ btye [2017-03-06 19:47:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `DASH7D`: buy 100 @ 0.037205 [2017-03-06 19:47:41] rapidtrades : startChat: are u stupid [2017-03-06 19:47:53] startChat : rapidtrades: yes. [2017-03-06 19:47:53] micmix : rapidtrades: 80 sat/b is dead until mempool clears [2017-03-06 19:48:02] rapidtrades : tnx [2017-03-06 19:48:03] sleger : he gonna ask how long [2017-03-06 19:48:08] rapidtrades : and 101? @micmix [2017-03-06 19:48:39] sleger : 101 can be in a few hours or never [2017-03-06 19:48:47] sleger : depending on new transactions incoming [2017-03-06 19:48:47] micmix : 102 should be 20-30 hours [2017-03-06 19:48:55] rapidtrades : micmix: ok [2017-03-06 19:49:09] micmix : if someone doesn't spam some more [2017-03-06 19:49:14] jho : Anyone try to research outcomes of SEC decisions so close to a deadline? Have to assume there is some bias at this point. [2017-03-06 19:49:14] rapidtrades : ur site says 19h max so w/e [2017-03-06 19:49:24] j8 : so many units for fee rate.. i'm gonna go with bits per bit [2017-03-06 19:49:37] startChat : rapidtrades: what wallet u send from [2017-03-06 19:49:58] rapidtrades : this is a f joke, 20 cents plus fee and waiting for +12 hrs now [2017-03-06 19:50:28] Rado : rapidtrades: because your are cheap [2017-03-06 19:50:38] cg : maybe we'll see some strong support for BU soon and then we can have low fees again in as short as a few weeks potentially [2017-03-06 19:50:39] Rado : send 0.75 [2017-03-06 19:50:40] micmix : sleger: btw, did you make your pre-announcement trade? [2017-03-06 19:50:53] sleger : micmix: some yes [2017-03-06 19:50:53] -_- : rapid just upset they gonna get margin called before being able to add more margin to their short position [2017-03-06 19:51:09] micmix : sleger: nice [2017-03-06 19:51:24] Rado : sleger: what is the trade? [2017-03-06 19:51:37] sleger : Rado: it is unknown until after its realized [2017-03-06 19:51:49] Kobe : -_-: What's a short swap? [2017-03-06 19:53:48] -_- : Perpetual Swap [2017-03-06 19:53:50] -_- : XBT [2017-03-06 19:53:58] -_- : shorters get paid 0.2289% in 6 minutes [2017-03-06 19:55:34] rapidtrades : micmix: so do i have a shot to have this included in next block? or will I keep getting leap-frogged by new transactions with higher fee? [2017-03-06 19:56:45] j8 : it's a pool, not a queue.. you don't have priority based on how long you've waited [2017-03-06 19:57:03] micmix : rapidtrades: higher fees get higher priority. you have to use 130-140 sat/b at least [2017-03-06 19:57:23] rapidtrades : j8: h8er [2017-03-06 19:57:28] rapidtrades : micmix: too late for that now [2017-03-06 19:57:36] rapidtrades : wallet said 5m to 5 hrs when i sent [2017-03-06 19:57:48] micmix : everyone wants to sell their coins while they are hot [2017-03-06 19:58:16] sleger : 0kc usd has max transaction fee set to 0.0005 lol [2017-03-06 19:58:19] rapidtrades : micmix: how do i accelerate [2017-03-06 19:58:23] sleger : they dont want people to withdraw [2017-03-06 19:58:27] sleger : pedal faster [2017-03-06 19:58:44] rapidtrades : sleger: ur not funny [2017-03-06 19:58:50] sleger : but you are [2017-03-06 19:58:52] micmix : rapidtrades: try https://www.viabtc.com/tools/txaccelerator/ for 101 sat/b trans [2017-03-06 19:58:54] Dynamix : long boys ;) [2017-03-06 19:59:04] rapidtrades : micmix: tried, limit hit [2017-03-06 19:59:27] micmix : then you are stuck if your wallet doesn't support RBF [2017-03-06 20:00:06] Dynamix : Panic ? No panic [2017-03-06 20:00:06] Dynamix : Panic ? No panic ... [2017-03-06 20:00:11] startChat : here you can use visa card. https://pushtx.btc.com/ [2017-03-06 20:00:27] -_- : lol [2017-03-06 20:00:37] rustiv : wow interface locked and massiv buy on XBTUSD [2017-03-06 20:00:37] startChat : :) [2017-03-06 20:00:49] rustiv : that was not nice [2017-03-06 20:00:52] sleger : rustiv: its called funding [2017-03-06 20:00:57] cg : funding [2017-03-06 20:01:12] rustiv : no trading while funding? [2017-03-06 20:01:20] sleger : only for VIP [2017-03-06 20:01:29] -_- : 3-4 second trading gets suspended for [2017-03-06 20:01:29] sleger : you need a green username [2017-03-06 20:01:45] micmix : or micmix username [2017-03-06 20:01:51] sleger : keep dreaming [2017-03-06 20:01:59] rustiv : how to get there? [2017-03-06 20:02:00] rustiv : big bags? [2017-03-06 20:02:13] sleger : if you have to ask ... [2017-03-06 20:02:14] Rado : rustiv: send me 1 BTC [2017-03-06 20:02:22] Rado : I will make it happen for you [2017-03-06 20:02:30] rustiv : rofl [2017-03-06 20:02:32] rustiv : shady af [2017-03-06 20:02:35] rustiv : ^^ [2017-03-06 20:02:39] sleger : yes he's blue [2017-03-06 20:02:41] sleger : dont trust him [2017-03-06 20:03:12] -_- : if BTC going to be boring till ETF decision it is gonna be a long work [2017-03-06 20:03:14] micmix : rustiv: take Arthur out for drinks and ask nicely [2017-03-06 20:03:21] -_- : long work week* [2017-03-06 20:03:43] odieoh : I don't think there is [2017-03-06 20:03:46] Hawkeye : Someone push btc off the stairs so we get a dip [2017-03-06 20:03:59] rustiv : colors are completely random [2017-03-06 20:04:09] Rado2 : rustiv: See I am legit [2017-03-06 20:04:11] rustiv : larping hard [2017-03-06 20:04:38] rustiv : wow your message is always bold [2017-03-06 20:04:43] rustiv : =legit? [2017-03-06 20:05:07] micmix : rustiv: everyone's message is bold [2017-03-06 20:05:13] Rado2 : lol [2017-03-06 20:05:15] -_- : **huh** [2017-03-06 20:05:20] rustiv : wow [2017-03-06 20:05:22] rustiv : double bold [2017-03-06 20:05:25] -_- : o [2017-03-06 20:05:27] rustiv : this guy is legit [2017-03-06 20:05:35] -_- : **too legit too quit** [2017-03-06 20:05:35] Rado2 : micmix: don't stop the fun [2017-03-06 20:05:56] -_- : _buy the top_ [2017-03-06 20:06:06] Rado : By the way it's 4 AM here [2017-03-06 20:06:11] Rado : I've been up since 2:30 AM [2017-03-06 20:06:19] Rado : got a stomac bug [2017-03-06 20:06:25] Rado : stomach [2017-03-06 20:06:33] -_- : i'm gonna need a whale to dump on stamp [2017-03-06 20:06:35] Rado : damn Malaysian food [2017-03-06 20:07:02] Hawkeye : Rado: special vx sauce? [2017-03-06 20:07:17] Rado : I guess [2017-03-06 20:07:38] rapidtrades : micmix: so that accelerator has min fee of 100b? [2017-03-06 20:07:48] micmix : rapidtrades: yes [2017-03-06 20:08:00] rapidtrades : useless then [2017-03-06 20:08:07] Rado : rapidtrades: just pay the damn fee [2017-03-06 20:08:13] Hawkeye : or wait [2017-03-06 20:09:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: sell 71 @ 0.015670 [2017-03-06 20:09:35] sleger : or use ETH [2017-03-06 20:09:50] inconspic : was it when bitmex announced adding dash the rally began? [2017-03-06 20:10:20] zy : funding rate is dropping [2017-03-06 20:10:31] Rado : see ya all later [2017-03-06 20:12:55] rustiv : finex looks ready to pop [2017-03-06 20:13:35] Hawkeye : sink it ! [2017-03-06 20:14:38] Hawkeye : darn fake internet money ;) [2017-03-06 20:14:58] Hawkeye : Alternative money ! [2017-03-06 20:15:13] mtourig3 : rustiv: yup [2017-03-06 20:15:19] mtourig3 : so does stamp [2017-03-06 20:18:04] rapidtrades : accelerator my ass, still wiaitng [2017-03-06 20:18:15] rapidtrades : don't worry tho, bitcoin is near all time highs [2017-03-06 20:20:13] reyno : pop up or down haha? [2017-03-06 20:20:37] Actualiteit : reyno: yes [2017-03-06 20:21:23] sleger : rapid has a point, how can bitcoin grow much further if nigerians cant afford the fee ? [2017-03-06 20:22:54] Ahhere : sleger: im pretty sure thats racist [2017-03-06 20:23:11] sleger : statistics, nigerians are poor [2017-03-06 20:23:37] Actualiteit : Ahhere: yeah dey raciss [2017-03-06 20:24:26] rapidtrades : https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/5xvd7v/gbtc_premium_has_shot_up_from_8_to_16_today_i/ [2017-03-06 20:26:11] rapidtrades : @Nerve how long did u wait for the accelerator to kick in [2017-03-06 20:27:10] -_- : largest BTC mining pool signaling for Bitcoin Unlimited [2017-03-06 20:27:23] -_- : soon high fees will be a thing of the past [2017-03-06 20:27:27] jphamer1 : any news on when withdrawals in china will be working yet? [2017-03-06 20:27:33] -_- : no [2017-03-06 20:27:45] -_- : although some smaller exchanges have enabled them [2017-03-06 20:29:10] Ahhere : can BU and segwit both be activated.. I mean the losing one be added later? [2017-03-06 20:31:54] Whaler : yes [2017-03-06 20:38:38] Ahhere : dash getting testy time to short that mother [2017-03-06 20:39:07] CutTheLosses : funding is hungry and eats all my profits LoL [2017-03-06 20:42:31] rapidtrades : https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/5xr6l1/daily_discussion_monday_march_06_2017/dekwarh/ [2017-03-06 20:42:34] rapidtrades : read that comment chain [2017-03-06 20:43:09] rapidtrades : until GBTC premium started going up, everyone was saying 'OMG PREMIUM FALLING COS COIN WILL BE APPROVED AND ITS THEIR COMPEITITION'' [2017-03-06 20:43:34] rapidtrades : now rising premium signals what...u guessed it, ETF approval again [2017-03-06 20:44:36] -_- : dumping [2017-03-06 20:44:38] -_- : etf denied? [2017-03-06 20:44:41] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 695 @ 1304.64 [2017-03-06 20:45:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 390000 @ 1300.55 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire: [2017-03-06 20:45:03] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 150000 @ 1304.02 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished: [2017-03-06 20:45:30] NooBTCrader : noice [2017-03-06 20:45:42] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 12000 @ 1273.37 [2017-03-06 20:46:03] cryptokeeper : Oh wow [2017-03-06 20:46:05] -_- : wow big longs [2017-03-06 20:46:13] -_- : manipulative dump i take it [2017-03-06 20:46:25] rustiv : confident dip buyers lol [2017-03-06 20:46:36] cryptokeeper : Yup [2017-03-06 20:46:41] cryptokeeper : 10 lashes [2017-03-06 20:46:43] rustiv : too fast for me [2017-03-06 20:47:12] -_- : i bet okc quarterly and bitmex quarterly has same people [2017-03-06 20:47:17] -_- : dump okc quarterly to rekt bitmex longs [2017-03-06 20:47:32] wurstgelee : hahahaha [2017-03-06 20:47:34] wurstgelee : so funny [2017-03-06 20:47:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `DASH7D`: sell 600 @ 0.036546 [2017-03-06 20:47:43] -_- : but really 390k [2017-03-06 20:47:48] -_- : Rado: was that you [2017-03-06 20:47:49] wurstgelee : some guy posted a "etf denied" fake announcement in slack announcement channel [2017-03-06 20:47:54] wurstgelee : thats the reason [2017-03-06 20:48:00] wurstgelee : people panic-dumped [2017-03-06 20:48:00] Actualiteit : lmao [2017-03-06 20:48:04] j8 : lol [2017-03-06 20:48:12] wurstgelee : great knife [2017-03-06 20:48:13] wurstgelee : :D [2017-03-06 20:48:46] j8 : won't be the only time this week i'm sure [2017-03-06 20:49:10] rapidtrades : WINKLEVOSS PRESS CONFERENCE IN 12 MINS - COINDESK [2017-03-06 20:49:21] CutTheLosses : LoL [2017-03-06 20:49:47] rapidtrades : j/k :) [2017-03-06 20:50:04] herpinator : last time there was a dip like the one that just happened I market sold and it lagged out and I got a short entry point at the VERY lowest sell lol thankfully I averaged out the position and got out just then [2017-03-06 20:50:08] CutTheLosses : you moved swap +.$5 [2017-03-06 20:50:12] wurstgelee : ndkirby [9:49 PM] I sold 400 BTC on that wtf [2017-03-06 20:50:13] wurstgelee : lol [2017-03-06 20:50:17] wurstgelee : wow...just wow [2017-03-06 20:50:26] rapidtrades : HodL [2017-03-06 20:50:32] wurstgelee : it was just fud [2017-03-06 20:50:38] CutTheLosses : jeez [2017-03-06 20:50:42] Coconuter : my margin was reduced on this fall [2017-03-06 20:50:48] Coconuter : lucky I wasn't stopped [2017-03-06 20:50:48] rapidtrades : its never just fud @wurstgelee [2017-03-06 20:50:51] Coconuter : fucking adl [2017-03-06 20:50:51] wurstgelee : some troll used slack announcement system to post "ETF DENIED" announcement [2017-03-06 20:50:53] rapidtrades : silly sausage [2017-03-06 20:50:56] wurstgelee : there are 100s [2017-03-06 20:51:01] wurstgelee : guys panic dumped [2017-03-06 20:51:01] herpinator : lol dam [2017-03-06 20:51:08] rustiv : bitconmarkets slack? [2017-03-06 20:51:13] Farzad : hey guys :D [2017-03-06 20:51:20] wurstgelee : https://reddit-bitcoinmarkets.slack.com/messages/etf/ [2017-03-06 20:51:22] wurstgelee : yep [2017-03-06 20:51:23] BitMEX_Sam : @everyone We have almost completed an automated system for disabling Clef and transitioning to a new Two-Factor type [2017-03-06 20:51:24] mick11877 : I shorted, what a prick [2017-03-06 20:51:34] BitMEX_Sam : Clef will remain online for another 90 days, you may transition at your leisure. [2017-03-06 20:51:36] rapidtrades : Farzad: dude make a webcrawler [2017-03-06 20:51:37] cryptokeeper : Bitcoin markets slack. Meh [2017-03-06 20:51:45] Farzad : rapidtrades: for what ? [2017-03-06 20:51:59] wurstgelee : cryptokeeper: well...its meh. but it made me buy h17 in the lows 1290s [2017-03-06 20:52:00] rapidtrades : Farzad: to post 'updates' when SEC pages change [2017-03-06 20:52:03] wurstgelee : so totally worth it [2017-03-06 20:52:04] wurstgelee : ;) [2017-03-06 20:52:41] Farzad : rapidtrades: I guarantee you, you would have no time to react. people have bots to trade the SEC decision in milliseconds. [2017-03-06 20:52:50] herpinator : thats where I bought also [2017-03-06 20:53:01] rapidtrades : Farzad: i guarantee u, that's not true [2017-03-06 20:53:18] rapidtrades : my trading skills are legendary [2017-03-06 20:53:32] Farzad : rapidtrades: dude, I know, Trust me. [2017-03-06 20:53:34] wurstgelee : yeah. everyone heard the great rapid n ZEc legend [2017-03-06 20:53:41] herpinator : lol [2017-03-06 20:53:49] rapidtrades : Farzad: u don't know, ur just a coder [2017-03-06 20:54:12] Farzad : rapidtrades: I have 15+ years trading XP. lol [2017-03-06 20:54:16] Farzad : are you kidding me ? [2017-03-06 20:54:20] CBF : wots a sec? [2017-03-06 20:54:32] Actualiteit : CBF: we got 60 of em in a min. [2017-03-06 20:54:35] rapidtrades : XP? trading on windoze xp? [2017-03-06 20:54:42] CBF : Actualiteit: kthnx [2017-03-06 20:54:44] Farzad : rapidtrades: I'm pretty famous in forex community as well ;) [2017-03-06 20:54:58] rapidtrades : Farzad: oh yea? who are u [2017-03-06 20:54:59] hmmmYea : Farzad: which forex community? [2017-03-06 20:55:02] Farzad : rapidtrades: XP = Experience [2017-03-06 20:55:08] yungyang : BitMEX_Sam: you guys going to use authy? [2017-03-06 20:55:15] donsteep : so person famous equals only facts spoken? [2017-03-06 20:55:17] BitMEX_Sam : yungyang: We already support Authy [2017-03-06 20:55:21] Farzad : hmmmYea: Like Forex-TSD for example [2017-03-06 20:55:39] CutTheLosses : i am famous in my village [2017-03-06 20:55:44] NooBTCrader : big boyz in the trollbox [2017-03-06 20:55:50] yungyang : BitMEX_Sam: really [2017-03-06 20:55:52] yungyang : soreceror [2017-03-06 20:55:53] rapidtrades : im famous with ur moms! heyooo [2017-03-06 20:56:01] y1uy : i think rapidtrades wins the trollbox toxic person award of the month [2017-03-06 20:56:05] BitMEX_Sam : yungyang: Yes, Authy uses the same mechanism as Google Authenticator [2017-03-06 20:56:08] cg : you guys really dump without actually checking because some random guy on a slack channel says etf denied? lmao [2017-03-06 20:56:14] hmmmYea : Farzad: do u write algos? [2017-03-06 20:56:29] Actualiteit : cg: yes. It is the pro btc trader way. Remember to buy high sell low!