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BitMEX disabled their archive after the DDOS attack so I have decided to make my mirror publicly available.

Well now, a few days after I made this mirror available to the public, the original archive from BitMEX is online again.
But since it is still limited (neutered to the last few hundred messages) I will keep my FULL mirror alive.

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[2017-03-06 04:11:55] Sultan Pepper : *playin' psycho games like norma bates*
[2017-03-06 04:12:08] .. : well that was some exciting action
[2017-03-06 04:12:24] Coconuter : my computer frooze up
[2017-03-06 04:12:30] Coconuter : could only watch
[2017-03-06 04:12:35] Coconuter : nice ddos attack while trading
[2017-03-06 04:12:39] Coconuter : his bots kept going
[2017-03-06 04:12:47] kurkudu : Another chance to buy the dip
[2017-03-06 04:13:07] Coconuter : could see the action and numbers but couldnt click on the website
[2017-03-06 04:13:11] rowrow : Coconuter: this site lags a lot, it might have just been that
[2017-03-06 04:13:12] Coconuter : had to log from another device
[2017-03-06 04:13:30] Coconuter : yes but for sure has some background attacks
[2017-03-06 04:14:48] Sultan Pepper : Bitmex occasionally switches my (iphone) tab to "market." Thanks.
[2017-03-06 04:15:01] GTmann : They changed coin expiry date to 13
[2017-03-06 04:15:03] Sultan Pepper : Cant fool me
[2017-03-06 04:15:19] GTmann : Sorry if that's old news
[2017-03-06 04:15:46] rowrow : step 1: sell 700k+ right after funding step 2: dump markets step 3: buy back in
[2017-03-06 04:16:34] rowrow : so someone tell me how having only 2 low-medium volume exchanges in the swap index is a good idea?
[2017-03-06 04:18:08] kurkudu : rowrow: you can't dump mark price here
[2017-03-06 04:18:45] rowrow : kurkudu: i don't think you're understanding what i'm saying, you dump here, then abuse the low-liquidity index to rebuy in at a lower price
[2017-03-06 04:18:46] kurkudu : just buy the dips and roll your joints
[2017-03-06 04:19:26] rowrow : you sell at okc and bitstamp to force sells and liquidations on bitmex to rebuy
[2017-03-06 04:20:16] oz : alright not sure if bitmex just shit the bed but it just ran my market order twice lol
[2017-03-06 04:20:21] oz : wtf
[2017-03-06 04:20:25] oz : uh
[2017-03-06 04:20:34] kurkudu : Don't think someone will manipulate spot prices to liq someone here @rowrow
[2017-03-06 04:21:42] rowrow : did you not just watch what happened? that was very obviously a manipulative dump, though whether they were just abusing index here or in general isn't 100% certain
[2017-03-06 04:21:59] zeropoint : kurkudu: u must be new to this
[2017-03-06 04:22:18] .. : while I agree, I don't think he actually made money now? of course could work other times
[2017-03-06 04:22:20] kurkudu : zeropoint: check leaderboard
[2017-03-06 04:22:30] .. : seems it didnt crash as much as he/they hoped :x
[2017-03-06 04:23:54] cryptonoob : ..: not yet
[2017-03-06 04:24:11] rowrow : ..: tough to tell, depends how much they were able to buy on the dip i suppose
[2017-03-06 04:25:20] kurkudu : To get lots of rekts here you need to move spot prices least $30-$50
[2017-03-06 04:25:43] tb : so mr 700k, how much did you make?
[2017-03-06 04:27:15] kurkudu : He got funding fee from 700K and he will close long with profit later, so I suppose he can make 5-10 btc during today from this 700K
[2017-03-06 04:27:42] .. : what? his sell order was filled after funding
[2017-03-06 04:27:54] Coconuter : its a team
[2017-03-06 04:28:04] rowrow : probably
[2017-03-06 04:28:08] Coconuter : you sell i buy and get you out later
[2017-03-06 04:28:17] Coconuter : we share profits
[2017-03-06 04:28:33] Coconuter : while the other ddoss the server
[2017-03-06 04:28:56] .. : I dont think he bought into himself, even if "he" is multiple people, because it is still throwing away money
[2017-03-06 04:28:58] Coconuter : it was sleger and rapid
[2017-03-06 04:29:00] Coconuter : for sure
[2017-03-06 04:29:05] Coconuter : see how quiet they are now
[2017-03-06 04:29:13] Coconuter : lol
[2017-03-06 04:29:19] Coconuter : dude they were going to long anyway
[2017-03-06 04:29:40] Coconuter : the world wants BTC
[2017-03-06 04:29:48] Coconuter : and there only a few
[2017-03-06 04:30:13] Coconuter : 1270 is just the start of this bubble
[2017-03-06 04:30:44] kurkudu : Rapid is broke, saw him on the street last night asking for some money to short Bitcoin)
[2017-03-06 04:31:30] aeos : Coconuter: i Don't get it, it was a sell wall right? so how he got funding anyways?
[2017-03-06 04:32:26] cryptonoob : kurkudu: rent is due today, I'm buying some BTC and yolo shorting right now 100X, wish me good luck sir!
[2017-03-06 04:32:34] rowrow : it was after the funding interval, he will get no funding until the next one (7.5 hours) - assuming he didn't rebuy before then
[2017-03-06 04:33:03] Coconuter : aeos: yes you open 2 accounts sell and buy yourself later
[2017-03-06 04:33:58] kurkudu : cryptonoob: good luck, gonna collect all upcoming short rekts)
[2017-03-06 04:34:11] rowrow : i don't think it was a self-sell considering the quick dump a few minutes after
[2017-03-06 04:34:23] Coconuter : ok rowrow
[2017-03-06 04:34:39] Coconuter : now I go to bed, hope they pump this to 1400USD today
[2017-03-06 04:35:09] rowrow : i'm sure 1400 is reachable... if the sec doesn't crash it all before then
[2017-03-06 04:36:44] cryptonoob : since the birth of Bitcoin what has been happening every single time we've reached a top?
[2017-03-06 04:37:12] rowrow : either a price fall or a bigger top i suppose
[2017-03-06 04:38:59] elmorte : Price always falls from the top - otherwise it's not the top yet
[2017-03-06 04:40:35] cryptonoob : hard to call the top but once it hits, it won't be a soft landing
[2017-03-06 04:41:57] rowrow : top $9950, crashes to $3k, shorters - "i told you guys"
[2017-03-06 04:42:18] cryptonoob : rowrow: haha yeah, that's typical
[2017-03-06 04:43:10] .. : meh im mostly short as hedge against potential ETF denial, I think it will go more down on denial than some people think
[2017-03-06 04:43:20] .. : if it gets approved I will be happy to be rekt
[2017-03-06 04:45:14] .. : I can see us go to ~1360 before decision though, hopefully not too much above 1400 (before decision), but we will see
[2017-03-06 04:49:57] monish : Hi....am too new on this...want to know what is the minimum investment and how it works
[2017-03-06 04:51:56] .. : min is probably $1, its not an investment but you can just sell/buy contract if you think price goes up/down in that market
[2017-03-06 04:52:30] .. : thats real basic, better just try out with 10 bucks and read all the info/FAQ pages
[2017-03-06 04:53:25] monish : ok thanks
[2017-03-06 04:53:52] monish : Is there any way that i invest and someone operates it for me...as in when to buy n sell
[2017-03-06 04:54:05] monish : as its not possible for me to keep a track of this full time
[2017-03-06 04:55:33] .. : no, if someone offers thats its a scam
[2017-03-06 04:55:57] monish : ok thanks...will read the info and then invest
[2017-03-06 04:55:57] .. : gotta trade yourself if u wanna trade
[2017-03-06 04:56:01] monish : ok
[2017-03-06 04:59:23] Hawkeye : monish: if you cant trade regulary , it might be best just to buy real btc
[2017-03-06 05:00:30] Adriana : monish: Buy ETH. It's your best bet
[2017-03-06 05:03:35] coolmans : hello
[2017-03-06 05:03:44] coolmans : how to change liquidation price?
[2017-03-06 05:04:01] coolmans : i opened a long position on btc
[2017-03-06 05:04:19] Adriana : monish: http://bluemagic.info/
[2017-03-06 05:04:27] coolmans : but i want to edit the liquidation price. seems to change only when i change the leaverage
[2017-03-06 05:04:41] BitMEX_John : coolmans: to change your liquidation price you need to adjust your leverage
[2017-03-06 05:05:27] BitMEX_John : coolmans: you can use the 'Liquidation Price' tab in the calculator tool to see how leverage and liquidation price relate
[2017-03-06 05:06:07] coolmans : BitMEX_John: no way to actually change it yourself then? Independent of leverage?
[2017-03-06 05:06:30] coolmans : that would be better
[2017-03-06 05:06:36] coolmans : IMHO
[2017-03-06 05:07:14] degen : IS the open value the total of longs and shorts or just one side?
[2017-03-06 05:07:53] DangerandPlay : Outright certainty over an ETF approval feels eerily similar to the chatter preceding Trump and Brexit. I feel it just might happen... The universe is fucking with us all.
[2017-03-06 05:08:04] DangerandPlay : ETF rejection*
[2017-03-06 05:08:35] startChat : degen: number of open contracts
[2017-03-06 05:08:45] coolmans : DangerandPlay: i wonder if they are really ready to let the Pandora out of the box...
[2017-03-06 05:10:02] DangerandPlay : I think some might feel they might as well do it now and get a head start... they might think they will have more control over it if they get in early
[2017-03-06 05:10:38] coolmans : DangerandPlay: no doubt...chinese have said they will digitize the RMB
[2017-03-06 05:10:49] coolmans : whatever THAT means
[2017-03-06 05:10:50] BitMEX_John : coolmans: no, you can't set your liquidation price directly, best bet is to use the calc tool to model how much leverage you can use while keeping your desired liquidation price
[2017-03-06 05:10:50] coolmans : LOL
[2017-03-06 05:11:14] coolmans : BitMEX_John: thanks. would be nice to set it urself ;)
[2017-03-06 05:12:32] kurkudu : Adriana: is it a joke $25K assets fund?
[2017-03-06 05:12:33] BitMEX_John : coolmans: I will pass your feedback onto the team for further consideration :)
[2017-03-06 05:13:48] Adriana : kurkudu: Our fellow trollboxer is running this fund. He was here yesterday :)
[2017-03-06 05:15:31] kurkudu : Adriana: trollboxer who won the biggest rekt prize sometime ago?
[2017-03-06 05:15:45] north : How do you set trade leverage amount on bitfinex?
[2017-03-06 05:16:40] north : *rate
[2017-03-06 05:16:45] BitMEX_John : north: there is a slider in the RHS panel
[2017-03-06 05:17:08] BitMEX_John : north: by default it will be on 'cross' but you can set it from 1x to 100x
[2017-03-06 05:18:38] north : BitMEX_John: yeah I like how simple it is on bitmex, can't figure it out on bitfinex though
[2017-03-06 05:19:09] BitMEX_John : north: apologies, I misread haha, hopefully someone can help you out
[2017-03-06 05:19:55] north : No worries, thanks anyway
[2017-03-06 05:20:07] Adriana : kurkudu: Nope. Not that one. Just found in Achive from yesterday. His name is rustiv
[2017-03-06 05:23:24] Adriana : kurkudu: The fund name is pretty cool though
[2017-03-06 05:24:49] kurkudu : Adriana: ok, got it. That could be epic fail if it was that rekt guy) saw rustiv in troll box but didn't realize that he is running it
[2017-03-06 05:26:56] Adriana : kurkudu: The fund introduction https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1735130.0 . Very cute
[2017-03-06 05:28:56] kurkudu : Adriana: they should at least implement smart contract to lock investors funds, otherwise they won't be able to collect more than these $25K
[2017-03-06 05:36:15] oz : /sentiment
[2017-03-06 05:36:18] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 46.66 / 53.34 Daily : 42.07 / 57.93 Weekly : 53.42 / 46.58 Monthly : 49.72 / 50.29```
[2017-03-06 05:36:26] Adriana : kurkudu: it's pretty much the whole idea of iconomi where they planning to operate on
[2017-03-06 05:37:02] rowrow : looks pretty scammish - not necessarily "steal your money" scammish, but "you're throwing away your money" scammish
[2017-03-06 05:38:04] rowrow : all the random bolding, emphasis, and attempt to make it sound professional by repeating its "names" over and over, looks about on par with a pyramid scheme for respectability
[2017-03-06 05:40:44] odieoh : Iconomi is a joke as far as I can tell. There's no clear information about how they will make money- how much fees are going to be etc. It smacks of get-rich hype to me.
[2017-03-06 05:42:39] rowrow : basically paying someone else to gamble with your money at best
[2017-03-06 05:47:34] odieoh : yep
[2017-03-06 05:47:52] odieoh : and they'll take a fee whether they win or not
[2017-03-06 05:48:05] startChat : DAO much better investment
[2017-03-06 05:49:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `DASH7D`: buy 1 @ 0.035582
[2017-03-06 05:50:13] odieoh : Eh I wasn't a fan of the DAO either, besides as a pump vehicle
[2017-03-06 05:51:01] odieoh : Venture capitalism is hard enough even for people who know what they're doing. Doing it by community vote with a bunch of internet strangers? Yikes
[2017-03-06 06:45:11] Ahzz : BTC Pammmp
[2017-03-06 06:51:41] cryptonoob : BTC pampers
[2017-03-06 06:56:24] javierstone : wow XBCH17 just pumped
[2017-03-06 06:57:53] cryptonoob : javierstone: you mean like pamp-pamp-ka-boom-boom?
[2017-03-06 06:57:53] javierstone : oh wait nvm wtf
[2017-03-06 07:00:37] rapidtrades : 0.25% followed by 0.34%
[2017-03-06 07:00:39] rapidtrades : nice
[2017-03-06 07:00:56] rapidtrades : would be better if shorts weren't cheated out of 0.05% every 8h session but w/e
[2017-03-06 07:01:07] rapidtrades : guess we gottta subside the idiots again as with ADL
[2017-03-06 07:03:22] Ahhere : Looks like time to short dash soon again
[2017-03-06 07:17:14] rapidtrades : https://blog.bitmex.com/site_announcement/notice-regarding-coin-prediction-futures/
[2017-03-06 07:18:45] jose : Good job BitMEX !
[2017-03-06 07:19:59] BitMEX_John : :)
[2017-03-06 07:21:50] javierstone : jas we go up
[2017-03-06 07:38:32] elmorte : damn, swap funding going up
[2017-03-06 07:40:26] rowrow : elmorte: yeah due in part to index dump a few hours back - i'm guessing it won't stay at .33% for next round, but it'll still be pretty high
[2017-03-06 07:40:46] rowrow : probably .25 again
[2017-03-06 07:41:38] elmorte : mini dump right there...
[2017-03-06 07:56:17] DorianWhack-A-Moto : SEC office opens in 6 hours...dun dun dunnnnn
[2017-03-06 07:58:00] Ahhere : DorianWhack-A-Moto: lol
[2017-03-06 07:58:42] DorianWhack-A-Moto : its going to be a long week
[2017-03-06 08:01:44] Ahhere : Insider tips ? ' Long ' week ?
[2017-03-06 08:03:17] Ahhere : Short DASH again FTW!
[2017-03-06 08:05:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `DASH7D`: sell 1 @ 0.035539
[2017-03-06 08:08:31] cryptonoob : now let me tell you something about my lawyer, as a favor I had him look at your case and BTC futures position he said "you ain't got shit to worry about, they just fucking with you"
[2017-03-06 08:50:55] wagwanbebe : Ahhere: morning mate, you thin DASH will gain some ground today by any chance?
[2017-03-06 08:51:53] Ahhere : wagwanbebe: I'm short bruv
[2017-03-06 08:52:02] .. : kraken breaking 1200 EUR, loookinng baaddd.... for shorts (:
[2017-03-06 08:52:32] wagwanbebe : Ahhere:ok so i should flog mine quick haha
[2017-03-06 08:53:01] Derreck : /wall
[2017-03-06 08:53:04] trollbot : ``` ±$30 Bid|Ask liq : (8 hours, 47 mins) $7.1m (6.28%) | $9.7m (130.26%) ```
[2017-03-06 08:53:11] Derreck : /price
[2017-03-06 08:53:15] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1277.00 (1.68%) Bitfinex : 1283.70 (1.17%) The Woodchipper : 1282.00 (0.82%) itBit : 1279.43 (0.11%) Kraken : 1279.90 (1.57%) GDAX : 1282.33 (0.99%) SLQ : 4 hours, 46 mins```
[2017-03-06 08:53:32] Derreck : /sentiment
[2017-03-06 08:53:35] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 20.88 / 79.12 Daily : 39.94 / 60.06 Weekly : 53.14 / 46.86 Monthly : 49.70 / 50.30```
[2017-03-06 09:07:19] Ahhere : wagwanbebe: lol well it's almost triple ETH and xmr I just don't think it's worth that. It could go up but not without the others joining so I'm long xmr short dash and will win overall as they will eventually meet imo
[2017-03-06 09:07:35] Ahhere : *it was almost
[2017-03-06 09:13:46] rapidtrades : I used 20 cents fee, how f*cked am I?
[2017-03-06 09:14:12] zy : try accelerator?
[2017-03-06 09:15:41] rangle : how many satoshi per byte rapid? one of my tx took 48 hours at 44
[2017-03-06 09:15:57] DorianWhack-A-Moto : rapidtrades: its not that backed up right now, you should be ok
[2017-03-06 09:16:54] Ahhere : how much were you sending? anything more than $200 and I dont see why ppl dont use the high priority fee
[2017-03-06 09:20:31] rangle : its an afterthought in some wallets
[2017-03-06 09:21:13] kurkudu : rapidtrades: you r totally fcked my friend)
[2017-03-06 09:21:47] Ahhere : `not friendly`
[2017-03-06 09:22:49] rangle : i just realized OKCoin hasnt broken the 2017 Jan high
[2017-03-06 09:24:08] kurkudu : I'm very friendly with my bro rapid) @Ahhere
[2017-03-06 09:25:53] Ahhere : kurkudu: t looks like your formula is missing one or more open parentheses. If you don't want to enter a formula, begin your text with an apostrophe (').
[2017-03-06 09:26:18] Ahhere : *not a bot*
[2017-03-06 09:30:02] Zen Trader : Im selling my socks for bitcoin on ebay. To the moon
[2017-03-06 09:31:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: buy 8 @ 0.015340
[2017-03-06 09:31:38] Noobz : Morning Peepz, Botz, Rektz, i welcome thy in this interesting week
[2017-03-06 09:31:59] kurkudu : what formula r u talking about? @Ahhere
[2017-03-06 09:32:17] Ahhere : kurkudu: "I'm very friendly with my bro rapid) "
[2017-03-06 09:34:16] Ahhere : kurkudu: "rapidtrades: you r totally fcked my friend)"
[2017-03-06 09:40:36] kurkudu : Ahhere: he asked, i answered. dont understand what you want
[2017-03-06 09:41:18] Ahhere : kurkudu: i just wanted you to laugh. :(
[2017-03-06 09:41:38] Ahhere : microsoft excel jokes arent that funny i guess
[2017-03-06 09:43:21] kurkudu : Ahhere: to tell u the truth i didnt get a joke, cold be because of my english;)
[2017-03-06 09:44:04] Puffle-Razor-Spark : on finex I paid $50/day for funding, now I pay $500/day - how is that fair?
[2017-03-06 09:44:28] Ahhere : jesus how big position?^
[2017-03-06 09:44:34] jose : Puffle-Razor-Spark: sell and you get paid
[2017-03-06 09:45:29] Puffle-Razor-Spark : Ahhere: I had 365k contracts, but maybe Im missing something
[2017-03-06 09:47:11] rangle : but then youre using finex
[2017-03-06 09:47:55] Puffle-Razor-Spark : rangle: yeah, lose everyday or in one big swoop... bot are unappealing to me
[2017-03-06 09:48:48] Puffle-Razor-Spark : do I have to triple the funding rate here to get to daily % if i hold long-term?
[2017-03-06 09:49:09] Ahhere : I've been building a 2k xmr long on polo since christmas and my total fees are 0.01bitcoin total
[2017-03-06 09:49:43] Puffle-Razor-Spark : eg 3x0.25% (for 0.25 every 8hrs)?
[2017-03-06 09:50:13] Puffle-Razor-Spark : Ahhere: but thats only a 25BTC position?
[2017-03-06 09:50:32] Puffle-Razor-Spark : still cheap
[2017-03-06 09:51:36] cryptobull : crash
[2017-03-06 09:51:38] Puffle-Razor-Spark : I have -0.525XBT realised PNL since yesterday, though including taker fees
[2017-03-06 09:51:50] Ahhere : Puffle-Razor-Spark: yeah but yours is only 10x mine and and my total 3 months fees are less than only a few hours of your fees
[2017-03-06 09:52:50] Ahhere : my fees were a dollar a day so 10x position would be 10 dollars a day
[2017-03-06 09:53:20] Ahhere : $500 is wat
[2017-03-06 09:54:08] Puffle-Razor-Spark : Ahhere: taker fees 0.00075*290XBT+funding fees
[2017-03-06 09:55:16] Puffle-Razor-Spark : about 0.3075XBT or ~$400 fees (not 500 as i said initially)
[2017-03-06 09:56:07] Ahhere : lol that sounds more like it "on finex I paid $50/day for funding, now I pay $500/day - how is that fair?" << i was like holy shit thats high
[2017-03-06 09:56:56] Puffle-Razor-Spark : you mean $500 is outrageous, but $400 is not?
[2017-03-06 09:57:58] Ahhere : well the taker fees are once off only when you open / close trade, not daily
[2017-03-06 09:59:06] Puffle-Razor-Spark : Ahhere: yes, thats ok, though I sold 100k contracts as maker, and I dont know if the unrealised PNL reflect the -0.025% of that
[2017-03-06 10:01:36] Dynamix : Cannondrop
[2017-03-06 10:01:37] Dynamix : haha
[2017-03-06 10:01:39] Puffle-Razor-Spark : I'll wait for the next funding calc and see
[2017-03-06 10:02:03] elmorte : Puffle-Razor-Spark: nah, it goes straight into RPnL
[2017-03-06 10:03:32] rapidtrades : 2+ hours still not even 1 confirmation
[2017-03-06 10:03:43] rapidtrades : currency of the future right here folks!
[2017-03-06 10:03:53] Puffle-Razor-Spark : elmorte: ah thanks, thats what I meant! So add those $25 to the fees, thus $425 fees paid since yesterday
[2017-03-06 10:04:08] rapidtrades : im sure wall street is just waiting to dump millions in this POS
[2017-03-06 10:04:36] Puffle-Razor-Spark : didn't you use an idiotic fee of 20 cents?
[2017-03-06 10:04:53] elmorte : Puffle-Razor-Spark: yeah, that's why I only play with the futures
[2017-03-06 10:05:02] rapidtrades : Puffle-Razor-Spark: ''idiotic''
[2017-03-06 10:05:18] rapidtrades : guess i should've used kraken's 9 cent SEPA trasfer
[2017-03-06 10:05:38] rapidtrades : and got actual usable money not some joke tokens
[2017-03-06 10:05:43] Puffle-Razor-Spark : rapidtrades: sorry that meant 'unreasonably low in times of congestion'
[2017-03-06 10:05:59] rapidtrades : 10 cent was the norm 1 year ago
[2017-03-06 10:06:29] Puffle-Razor-Spark : bitcoin grew up in a smallblocker neighbourhood my friend
[2017-03-06 10:06:45] Puffle-Razor-Spark : no denying
[2017-03-06 10:07:09] rapidtrades : yeah it takes a lot of transations to move money in and out of exchanges constantly
[2017-03-06 10:07:20] rapidtrades : cos u never know when one will go down with ur bitcoins
[2017-03-06 10:07:33] rapidtrades : that's 99% of tranfers out there
[2017-03-06 10:08:16] Puffle-Razor-Spark : rapidtrades: truth
[2017-03-06 10:10:35] Apocalyptic : rapidtrades: nice funding coming bra
[2017-03-06 10:12:17] rapidtrades : yes
[2017-03-06 10:12:23] Ahhere : anybody else OCD about position sizes even though it costs them money?
[2017-03-06 10:12:28] rapidtrades : too bad next one dropped from 0.35
[2017-03-06 10:12:48] ross : Monero going up nicely
[2017-03-06 10:13:09] rapidtrades : Ahhere: u mean fidget so that the size is exactly right?
[2017-03-06 10:14:07] Ahhere : rapidtrades: I mean I often click and take using market buy or sell. then notice my position size is not quite round so I'll buy a few extra contracts to make it round even if the next offer is quite a bit out
[2017-03-06 10:14:38] Ahhere : cant cope with a position ending in 326 or some shit
[2017-03-06 10:15:12] rapidtrades : yeah i kinda do that when arbing, guess its not optimal
[2017-03-06 10:15:37] rapidtrades : guess btc size fluctuates based on pric
[2017-03-06 10:15:39] ross : Ahhere: I hate when my profit is 0.326 or whatever I have to wait till it's 0.4. But usually it drops by the time that happens and I lose
[2017-03-06 10:15:53] rapidtrades : ross: ur an idiot
[2017-03-06 10:16:05] ross : rapidtrades: OCD
[2017-03-06 10:16:28] rapidtrades : lot of OCD ppl here it seems
[2017-03-06 10:16:59] rapidtrades : the Autism level here is definitely bigger then the cumulative IQ level
[2017-03-06 10:17:02] ross : Right now I'm up 0.23 and I don't want to be close
[2017-03-06 10:17:12] Ahhere : ross: i totally do that but I've learned to choose a reasonable p&l target and then round it down so I'm not waiting for a round number that will never come lol
[2017-03-06 10:18:21] Puffle-Razor-Spark : So with 207 XTB longs, I will pay 207*0.002539=0.525573 in funding fees, correct?
[2017-03-06 10:18:39] ross : I'm trolling, anything green is music in my ears. The rounding down is a good strategy
[2017-03-06 10:18:44] Puffle-Razor-Spark : looks totally gay
[2017-03-06 10:18:59] Puffle-Razor-Spark : ^ can someone verify please?
[2017-03-06 10:19:50] Ahhere : ross: who is the asshole selling 3009 contracts at 1322.8
[2017-03-06 10:19:58] Ahhere : 3009!! what an asshole
[2017-03-06 10:20:14] Puffle-Razor-Spark : That means XBT has to go up by something like $3.25 every 8 hours to make me profit. this sucks
[2017-03-06 10:20:57] Ahhere : bots have no self respect
[2017-03-06 10:20:59] Puffle-Razor-Spark : Long term swaps my ass
[2017-03-06 10:21:49] ross : Ahhere: I put an order in at limit and I hate when 2173/3000 fill
[2017-03-06 10:22:15] Puffle-Razor-Spark : ross: just buy the rest as taker. dont be cheap
[2017-03-06 10:22:46] Ahhere : ross: ouch getting 70% filled means you got the bottom but those odd numbers hurt
[2017-03-06 10:23:19] Puffle-Razor-Spark : rapidtrades: what is your ratio unrealised realised PNL for the shorts?
[2017-03-06 10:23:44] Puffle-Razor-Spark : rapidtrades: I mean how much are you down compared to what you took in in fees?
[2017-03-06 10:24:22] rapidtrades : both are red lol
[2017-03-06 10:25:03] rapidtrades : is the default setting since opening the trade or for the life of the swap?
[2017-03-06 10:25:05] Puffle-Razor-Spark : rapidtrades: really, with those funding fees going in your direction every 8 hours?
[2017-03-06 10:25:23] Puffle-Razor-Spark : no clue
[2017-03-06 10:25:27] rapidtrades : bra were u here in January
[2017-03-06 10:25:35] Puffle-Razor-Spark : rapidtrades: nopes
[2017-03-06 10:25:41] Puffle-Razor-Spark : other way round?
[2017-03-06 10:25:41] rapidtrades : lost like 5% in funding
[2017-03-06 10:25:48] Puffle-Razor-Spark : damn
[2017-03-06 10:25:58] rapidtrades : it was brutal
[2017-03-06 10:26:18] rapidtrades : plus price kept going up lol
[2017-03-06 10:26:26] rapidtrades : manipulated shit
[2017-03-06 10:30:29] Puffle-Razor-Spark : rapidtrades: I hope you didnt short at 800 though
[2017-03-06 10:30:46] rapidtrades : f*ck you
[2017-03-06 10:31:15] Puffle-Razor-Spark : rapidtrades: hey that was sincere, my condolences if you did.
[2017-03-06 10:31:26] vgck : rapidtrades: Dude, what if price only drops to like 900? You gonna cut your loses or just keep waiting?
[2017-03-06 10:31:42] rapidtrades : https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/5xs0vr/eu_commission_ponders_setting_a_transaction_limit/
[2017-03-06 10:34:28] Ahhere : rapidtrades: two words :"local bitcoins guise"
[2017-03-06 10:36:10] Ahhere : eu limitiing bitcoin purchases is like a bank limiting withdrawal. read: buy now
[2017-03-06 10:36:42] rapidtrades : solid analysis
[2017-03-06 10:36:48] Ahhere : rapid are you oracleseven?
[2017-03-06 10:36:51] rapidtrades : wish i thought that up myself
[2017-03-06 10:37:27] Ahhere : all rights reserved
[2017-03-06 10:44:50] loomdart : hey rapid
[2017-03-06 10:44:51] loomdart : how are you bud
[2017-03-06 10:48:15] rapidtrades : im thinking do i take a nap now or sleep later
[2017-03-06 10:48:57] rapidtrades : its 6am in 'Merica so unlikely we get news right now
[2017-03-06 10:49:30] Ahhere : Ur not gonna stay awake all week?
[2017-03-06 10:49:42] rapidtrades : bitmex motion to randomly ban 300 newbs
[2017-03-06 10:49:54] rapidtrades : so we don't have ETF lag
[2017-03-06 10:50:08] rapidtrades : can I have a second?
[2017-03-06 10:50:15] loomdart : isn't there like... a couple of days to go
[2017-03-06 10:50:17] loomdart : guys seriously
[2017-03-06 10:50:18] loomdart : fuck the etf
[2017-03-06 10:50:52] Ahhere : rapidtrades: motion to increase fees to improve infrastructure and servers and stuff.
[2017-03-06 10:52:01] PARAFFIN : who keeping the fucking premium so low
[2017-03-06 10:52:45] PARAFFIN : i mean we going to 1285 - 1290 today
[2017-03-06 10:52:48] Puffle-Razor-Spark : PARAFFIN: what premium do you mean?
[2017-03-06 10:52:55] PARAFFIN : this here
[2017-03-06 10:52:59] PARAFFIN : 1279
[2017-03-06 10:53:13] Puffle-Razor-Spark : ah should I close my sell?
[2017-03-06 10:53:15] PARAFFIN : swap
[2017-03-06 10:53:28] Puffle-Razor-Spark : there you go
[2017-03-06 10:53:47] PARAFFIN : lol
[2017-03-06 10:55:34] Puffle-Razor-Spark : but I really want to get rid of it
[2017-03-06 10:55:59] Puffle-Razor-Spark : have some as well
[2017-03-06 10:56:12] PARAFFIN : is it a big order?
[2017-03-06 10:56:36] PARAFFIN : 184365
[2017-03-06 10:56:37] PARAFFIN : this xD
[2017-03-06 10:57:02] Puffle-Razor-Spark : selling like hotcakes
[2017-03-06 10:57:35] PARAFFIN : guys moon today buy buy buy
[2017-03-06 10:58:34] Ahhere : mooncakes!!!
[2017-03-06 10:58:48] Puffle-Razor-Spark : lol, yeah nice
[2017-03-06 11:00:09] PARAFFIN : 12:00 in eu
[2017-03-06 11:10:53] alchemist : ETF approved! Watch the news on centrabit application http://www.centrabit.io/
[2017-03-06 11:11:22] Puffle-Razor-Spark : alchemist: and download a coinstealer app ?
[2017-03-06 11:11:24] Puffle-Razor-Spark : no thanks
[2017-03-06 11:11:41] kingkrung : a question: for what is leverage in XBT needed? I understand, if I chose a leverage of 100 I will get liquidated quit fast, if price goes wrong direction. So it possilbe to use 1BTC to sell/buy 100BTC? But Its not possilibe to 100 fold my earnings, by risking 1btc.
[2017-03-06 11:12:26] Puffle-Razor-Spark : kingkrung it is possible, that's why it's called leverage
[2017-03-06 11:15:36] Puffle-Razor-Spark : You buy 100XBT @ 1280, you sell 100XBT @ 1290 you made $1000 - fees. Measured in margin, your 1 XBT margin has made over 80% profit.
[2017-03-06 11:16:55] kingkrung : I have to gamble with $1 trades to get this
[2017-03-06 11:20:52] donsteep : well more like $5 but yes
[2017-03-06 11:31:43] cryptoyolo : wtf is up with this bitcoin, thought we had some more mojo
[2017-03-06 11:33:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 1111 @ 1278.07
[2017-03-06 11:33:33] Puffle-Razor-Spark : who gets rekt @ 1278??
[2017-03-06 11:33:56] vgck : 100x who else?
[2017-03-06 11:34:10] Puffle-Razor-Spark : sometimes I think those are fake rekts, not even possible at 100x
[2017-03-06 11:34:24] Puffle-Razor-Spark : where did the guy buy his long??
[2017-03-06 11:34:43] CutTheLosses : 1281
[2017-03-06 11:34:43] donsteep : at 100 easily if bought at recent top
[2017-03-06 11:34:46] vgck : If I go 100x, liq is like 3-4 dollars down
[2017-03-06 11:34:57] vgck : Do he probably bought at 1279-80
[2017-03-06 11:35:07] donsteep : market-buy and the range is another $1 less
[2017-03-06 11:35:11] vgck : 100x yolo longed the top like a pro
[2017-03-06 11:35:15] CutTheLosses : LoL
[2017-03-06 11:35:58] laisee : its easy if you know how ...
[2017-03-06 11:36:04] Puffle-Razor-Spark : you have to be a yolo pro to be able to do that, damn
[2017-03-06 11:36:06] vgck : tbf it also means he only lost like $15, rapid is right the r/r is too good not to do it
[2017-03-06 11:36:38] Puffle-Razor-Spark : vgck: there is never a r/r too good.
[2017-03-06 11:36:54] fulrik : rapidtrades Nothing is so bad that it is not good for something. You are practically a celeb in this box.
[2017-03-06 11:36:56] vgck : Puffle-Razor-Spark: If it started to rally and we hit 1300, his roe would've been great
[2017-03-06 11:37:24] vgck : He can get liq'd tons of times, just has to time it once to make it all worth it
[2017-03-06 11:37:27] zy : why the difference with the mark price?
[2017-03-06 11:37:30] laisee : degen gamblers gonna gamble in degen fashion ...
[2017-03-06 11:39:53] Puffle-Razor-Spark : zy: fees in 20 minutes
[2017-03-06 11:40:07] fulrik : vgck: Doesn't seem like a solid strategy to me...
[2017-03-06 11:41:27] vgck : fulrik: This one guy on reddit 100x longed 1 XBT, he had like +40 BTC P/N for a while
[2017-03-06 11:41:53] vgck : Turning 1k into 40k from one well timed position
[2017-03-06 11:42:28] Ahhere : for a while.. what did he close at?
[2017-03-06 11:42:49] vgck : He took like 3 BTC profit then let it liq cuz he's an idiot
[2017-03-06 11:43:14] Ahhere : lol yikes
[2017-03-06 11:43:30] vgck : But still, how many time's can he get liq'd and still make bank?
[2017-03-06 11:43:47] vgck : I don't do it, but seems like a decent strategy to me
[2017-03-06 11:44:44] Ahhere : in crypto it makes total sense. do that shit in forex and they will come looking for what you owe. your 1k becomes -10k in forex
[2017-03-06 11:45:06] vgck : lol true
[2017-03-06 11:52:56] ross : Monero is making me a ton
[2017-03-06 11:55:39] Ahhere : sweet me too
[2017-03-06 11:57:48] reyno : why is the funding fee so high?
[2017-03-06 11:59:26] donsteep : I've been wondering about that too, what is it based on?
[2017-03-06 12:00:17] Ahhere : ah funding nice
[2017-03-06 12:00:32] vgck : To the moon?
[2017-03-06 12:01:13] donsteep : if we don't get to moon soon, funding will go there without us apparently
[2017-03-06 12:01:57] reyno : im -1.1xbt on funding
[2017-03-06 12:02:31] reyno : 1300 is needed
[2017-03-06 12:04:14] vgck : Or 1100, and all the longs get REKT on top of the funding :p
[2017-03-06 12:06:41] thomaskikansha : 0.23% funding oh
[2017-03-06 12:07:28] rejndjer : im new to this scene what does 0.23% funding mean?
[2017-03-06 12:08:25] PARAFFIN : Funding occurs every 8 hours at 04:00 UTC, 12:00 UTC and 20:00 UTC. You will only pay or receive funding if you hold a position at one of these times. If you close your position prior to the funding exchange then you will not pay or receive funding.
[2017-03-06 12:08:44] PARAFFIN : Funding = Position Value * Funding Rate
[2017-03-06 12:09:38] thomaskikansha : rejndjer: longs paying 0.23% per 8 hour as interest
[2017-03-06 12:09:46] PARAFFIN : So i think thats the interest you have to pay for your leveraged products
[2017-03-06 12:09:51] Sultan Pepper : In swap
[2017-03-06 12:10:12] rejndjer : so thats like paying maintenance of my position every 8h?
[2017-03-06 12:10:12] thomaskikansha : which implies a great demand on longs
[2017-03-06 12:10:12] jzayy : I made .5 bitcoin from my long
[2017-03-06 12:10:32] jzayy : but my funding rate has cost me .4 btc
[2017-03-06 12:10:38] Hawkeye : ok gotto go work.. you guys drop the futs to 1250 before i get back please ;)
[2017-03-06 12:10:41] jzayy : I miss Okcoin futures
[2017-03-06 12:11:00] jzayy : oh now allowed to mention other exchange here lol
[2017-03-06 12:11:07] PARAFFIN : Hawkeye: see you at 1300 later
[2017-03-06 12:11:10] PARAFFIN : ;D
[2017-03-06 12:11:23] thomaskikansha : okc futures :)
[2017-03-06 12:11:32] thomaskikansha : you just dont write it full
[2017-03-06 12:11:44] thomaskikansha : bitstamp
[2017-03-06 12:11:48] thomaskikansha : bitfinex
[2017-03-06 12:12:01] jzayy : oh they just don't like okc I see
[2017-03-06 12:12:02] thomaskikansha : oh just okc? lol
[2017-03-06 12:12:14] Hawkeye : PARAFFIN: meh... i missed the dip last night i need a new one..... back in an hr if i am lucky , so get to it ! sell sell sell ;)
[2017-03-06 12:12:32] PARAFFIN : Hawkeye: ok^^ xxoox
[2017-03-06 12:12:37] rejndjer : why is mark price of my position changing constantly?
[2017-03-06 12:12:59] Hawkeye : rejndjer: its the estimated 'fair'price
[2017-03-06 12:13:16] jzayy : I thought futures were supposed to not charge funding
[2017-03-06 12:13:39] Hawkeye : mark price isnt funding, its the price you might get liquidated against
[2017-03-06 12:13:42] rejndjer : @Hawkeye what an awkward phrase that is xD
[2017-03-06 12:14:26] Hawkeye : bbl gotto run ;)
[2017-03-06 12:14:43] jzayy : Do most of you trade the march 31 future instead of the perpetual.. Does the march 31st have no lending fees??
[2017-03-06 12:14:43] rejndjer : thanks for help)
[2017-03-06 12:15:03] jzayy : Damn it I can't believe i'm just figuring this out...
[2017-03-06 12:16:42] Ahhere : jzayy: beware when march dips .. whoo boy does it dip - see $932 dip recently
[2017-03-06 12:17:20] jzayy : Ahhere: Oh ok.. Thanks for the heads up
[2017-03-06 12:17:57] jzayy : but no lending fees there right?
[2017-03-06 12:18:02] Ahhere : jzayy: if u want to long march, put in low buys and wait or set alarms and get ready to BTFD
[2017-03-06 12:18:07] Ahhere : worth reading the FAQ
[2017-03-06 12:18:14] PARAFFIN : whats BTFD @Ahhere
[2017-03-06 12:18:23] Ahhere : Buy the Flipping dip
[2017-03-06 12:18:34] Ahhere : theres a dirty version also
[2017-03-06 12:19:06] jzayy : Is the funding rate extremely high right now?
[2017-03-06 12:19:34] Ahhere : no it maxes out at 0.375
[2017-03-06 12:19:41] jexxx : jzayy: Yes due to ETF has been approved check out here http://www.centrabit.io/
[2017-03-06 12:19:52] Ahhere : well it is high now but not higest possible
[2017-03-06 12:20:52] jzayy : jexxx: only for windows?
[2017-03-06 12:20:56] rejndjer : i have opened position 10 minutes ago on perpetual swap and i already have realised pnl, how is that even posible?:S
[2017-03-06 12:21:20] Ahhere : rejndjer: funding 21 minutes ago paid you for being short
[2017-03-06 12:21:29] rejndjer : but im long xD
[2017-03-06 12:21:41] rejndjer : i opened pos after 12
[2017-03-06 12:21:49] Ahhere : huh they must like u
[2017-03-06 12:22:30] rejndjer : i made account here yesterday, this is my first position here, trading with some spare money, this is better then casino xD
[2017-03-06 12:23:38] Dynamix : rejndjer: yup that is true :
[2017-03-06 12:24:22] jexxx : ETF has been approved now you guys wil see 3k$ each BTC check out centrabit app news http://www.centrabit.io/
[2017-03-06 12:24:38] PARAFFIN : dont open exploit
[2017-03-06 12:24:56] PARAFFIN : fake
[2017-03-06 12:25:06] zy : can someone ban this
[2017-03-06 12:25:24] Ahhere : will he get my corns?
[2017-03-06 12:28:05] Tux26 : can anyone see the XBTH17 orderbook? It loads forever for me (all other orderbooks work)
[2017-03-06 12:28:14] rejndjer : why is btc ~20$ more expensive on japanese exchanges?
[2017-03-06 12:28:20] rejndjer : do they like it that much?
[2017-03-06 12:28:50] rejndjer : Tux26: no problems for me
[2017-03-06 12:28:59] Tux26 : rejndjer: thx
[2017-03-06 12:29:23] zy : rejndjer: the chinese are buying at the japanese exchanges
[2017-03-06 12:29:47] zy : they can't withdraw coins in domestic exchanges atm
[2017-03-06 12:29:54] rejndjer : oh, that makes sense, thanks
[2017-03-06 12:31:47] Sultan Pepper : /ban jexxx Sorry, but no scamming. You may continue posting but other users will not see your posts and will not respond to you. Goodbye!
[2017-03-06 12:33:22] zy : what do you guys use to get instant update for the etf decision?
[2017-03-06 12:33:36] Sultan Pepper : Candlesticks ;)
[2017-03-06 12:33:46] zy : lol
[2017-03-06 12:33:49] klee : jexxx https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHqqD9UMnxE
[2017-03-06 12:33:49] PARAFFIN : twitter maybe
[2017-03-06 12:51:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 40000 @ 1280.66
[2017-03-06 12:51:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 12 @ 1280.63
[2017-03-06 12:51:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 40 @ 1280.78
[2017-03-06 12:51:11] PARAFFIN : ?
[2017-03-06 12:51:14] ross : Lol?
[2017-03-06 12:51:56] ross : That's why you don't 100x folks
[2017-03-06 12:52:03] PARAFFIN : check out stamp xD
[2017-03-06 12:52:20] PARAFFIN : raining green
[2017-03-06 12:53:31] ross : Bullstamp
[2017-03-06 12:54:04] laisee : bitstamp always late to the party, just before its over
[2017-03-06 12:58:30] Goofy : has someone a good advise regarding a bitcoin debit card?
[2017-03-06 12:59:18] Goofy : is there any you could recommend?
[2017-03-06 12:59:29] Boontjie : /joke
[2017-03-06 12:59:31] trollbot : ``` The police came to my door and told me my dogs were chasing people on bikes My dogs don't even have bikes```
[2017-03-06 13:00:01] Boontjie : /joke
[2017-03-06 13:00:03] trollbot : ``` I just finished reading a book called "How To Give Constructive Criticism" It was fucking shit.```
[2017-03-06 13:01:00] Coconuter : yololoooooo
[2017-03-06 13:04:18] Ahhere : Coconuter: lol we are yolo twins hard not to buy in here
[2017-03-06 13:05:07] -_- : bitfinex new high
[2017-03-06 13:05:12] c.l : /price
[2017-03-06 13:05:16] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1282.28 (0.41%) Bitfinex : 1285.60 (0.15%) The Woodchipper : 1280.08 (-0.15%) itBit : 1283.10 (0.29%) Kraken : 1276.50 (-0.27%) GDAX : 1285.01 (0.21%) SLQ : 4 hours, 12 mins```
[2017-03-06 13:05:23] -_- : highest in 2 days
[2017-03-06 13:05:44] -_- : 10 from ATH
[2017-03-06 13:05:54] Coconuter : even rapid is buying now
[2017-03-06 13:05:58] Coconuter : look how quiet he is
[2017-03-06 13:07:40] PARAFFIN : BUYBUBUY
[2017-03-06 13:08:33] reyno : /sentiment
[2017-03-06 13:08:35] PARAFFIN : 1286 finex
[2017-03-06 13:08:36] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 72.03 / 27.97 Daily : 39.77 / 60.23 Weekly : 53.14 / 46.87 Monthly : 49.68 / 50.32```
[2017-03-06 13:08:39] PARAFFIN : /price
[2017-03-06 13:08:43] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1280.64 (-0.13%) Bitfinex : 1286.50 (0.07%) The Woodchipper : 1280.08 (0.00%) itBit : 1284.02 (0.07%) Kraken : 1278.00 (0.12%) GDAX : 1285.02 (0.00%) SLQ : 3 mins```
[2017-03-06 13:12:50] -_- : stamp new 2 day high
[2017-03-06 13:12:56] ross : Make Bitcoin great again
[2017-03-06 13:16:21] rejndjer : yay my first position closed with profit
[2017-03-06 13:19:14] B_Guy : This funding rate is madness
[2017-03-06 13:20:46] -_- : join us on March
[2017-03-06 13:20:49] -_- : no funding!
[2017-03-06 13:21:05] Hawkeye : darnit i asked for a dip! ;)
[2017-03-06 13:21:16] PARAFFIN : Hawkeye: wb^^
[2017-03-06 13:21:20] Bitdigger : what? 0.2289%?
[2017-03-06 13:21:42] Hawkeye : thnx :) but still.... Dip darnit , not in position on this exchange
[2017-03-06 13:21:51] thomaskikansha : 1300 today?
[2017-03-06 13:22:27] Hawkeye : futures? sure !
[2017-03-06 13:22:36] PARAFFIN : 1325 should be possible today
[2017-03-06 13:23:04] Felix : Tomorrow 1400
[2017-03-06 13:23:41] zy : fml
[2017-03-06 13:30:50] JasonLi : ah ah ah
[2017-03-06 13:30:53] JasonLi : /joke
[2017-03-06 13:30:54] trollbot : ``` A girl walks into a dry cleaner She drops off her dress and turns to leave. The owner says, "Come again!". She says, "No it was toothpaste this time."```
[2017-03-06 13:32:55] kurkudu : Nice 1240 users
[2017-03-06 13:36:21] sleger : who was that guy who kept saying retail couldnt short snap before 3 days ?
[2017-03-06 13:36:38] Apocalyptic : sleger: you have some ?
[2017-03-06 13:36:45] Apocalyptic : (shorts that is)
[2017-03-06 13:36:52] sleger : no but i can "We would like to inform you that shares of the following securities are now available to be sold short: Stock Accounts SNAP"
[2017-03-06 13:37:09] -_- : damn okc quarterly dumping a bit
[2017-03-06 13:37:22] Apocalyptic : nice
[2017-03-06 13:38:26] Hawkeye : price of btc is too darn high, back to 9,99 and start over :)
[2017-03-06 13:38:41] Felix : Seriously - next projected fib level is 1399
[2017-03-06 13:38:56] -_- : oh okc spot is dumping