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BitMEX disabled their archive after the DDOS attack so I have decided to make my mirror publicly available.

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[2017-03-05 23:21:29] bingbongfly : jarek: good luck!
[2017-03-05 23:21:49] daveberns1 : /wall
[2017-03-05 23:21:52] trollbot : ``` ±$30 Bid|Ask liq : (1 hour, 18 mins) $3.0m (-11.94%) | $8.7m (-24.67%) ```
[2017-03-05 23:21:54] jarek : cheers guys
[2017-03-05 23:22:25] daveberns1 : /joke
[2017-03-05 23:22:27] trollbot : ``` A wife gets naked... …and asks her husband, 'What turns you on more! my pretty face or my sexy body?' Husband looks her up and down for a moment and replies, 'Your sense of humor.'```
[2017-03-05 23:22:45] daveberns1 : lulz
[2017-03-05 23:22:58] jarek : cool
[2017-03-05 23:23:00] jarek : /joke
[2017-03-05 23:23:02] trollbot : ``` What's the difference between Jesus and a picture of Jesus? You only need one nail to hang the picture up.```
[2017-03-05 23:23:17] jarek : jesus :)
[2017-03-05 23:23:18] daveberns1 : ohhhhhhhhhhhh
[2017-03-05 23:23:22] daveberns1 : thats good
[2017-03-05 23:30:39] shahroozgroup2 : hi guis
[2017-03-05 23:31:10] Farzad : shahroozgroup2: hey :D
[2017-03-05 23:31:24] shahroozgroup2 : what do you think about 11 march
[2017-03-05 23:31:49] shahroozgroup2 : etf bitcoin vinku.. brothers in usa
[2017-03-05 23:32:33] rangle : i think bitcoin could go up, or it could go down
[2017-03-05 23:33:02] shahroozgroup2 : Farzad: hi farzad khan
[2017-03-05 23:33:13] shahroozgroup2 : why do you sad ?
[2017-03-05 23:33:27] Farzad : shahroozgroup2: I am not sad !
[2017-03-05 23:33:45] shahroozgroup2 : its so good
[2017-03-05 23:33:50] shahroozgroup2 : whats up ?
[2017-03-05 23:34:01] Farzad : no news, pretty boring day
[2017-03-05 23:34:12] Farzad : getting ready to go to sleep
[2017-03-05 23:34:32] shahroozgroup2 : its not sleep time
[2017-03-05 23:34:50] shahroozgroup2 : do u have any buy order ?
[2017-03-05 23:35:15] Farzad : shahroozgroup2: no, I closed all my positions
[2017-03-05 23:35:21] Farzad : will not trade before ETF
[2017-03-05 23:35:44] Farzad : 1 week off ;)
[2017-03-05 23:35:57] Farzad : can play games again ! lol
[2017-03-05 23:36:01] shahroozgroup2 : but i want to open a big position in cex.io
[2017-03-05 23:36:10] shahroozgroup2 : from now
[2017-03-05 23:36:17] Farzad : long ? or short ?
[2017-03-05 23:36:25] shahroozgroup2 : long
[2017-03-05 23:36:37] Farzad : so u think it will be accepted ?
[2017-03-05 23:36:44] mtourig3 : /joke
[2017-03-05 23:36:45] trollbot : ``` I called a suicide hotline in Iraq.. They got excited and asked if I could drive a truck. ```
[2017-03-05 23:36:59] mtourig3 : haha
[2017-03-05 23:37:02] mtourig3 : /joke
[2017-03-05 23:37:03] trollbot : ``` I tried to sue the airport for losing my luggage. I lost my case.```
[2017-03-05 23:37:10] Farzad : pretty good jokes this week :D
[2017-03-05 23:37:24] InvalidUser : /rekt
[2017-03-05 23:37:38] sleger : /joke
[2017-03-05 23:37:39] trollbot : ``` I found a wallet on the sidewalk today. I was gonna keep it, rather than return it, but then I thought: well, if I lost a hundred and fifty dollars, how would I feel? And I realized I would want to be taught a lesson. (Emo Philips)```
[2017-03-05 23:37:41] sleger : /spam
[2017-03-05 23:37:50] Farzad : no rekt highlights in past 24 hours
[2017-03-05 23:38:00] InvalidUser : odd
[2017-03-05 23:38:16] sleger : he's banned
[2017-03-05 23:38:25] Farzad : no
[2017-03-05 23:38:27] Farzad : /rekt
[2017-03-05 23:38:33] sleger : /ban @InvalidUser
[2017-03-05 23:38:35] Farzad : see, there is no rekt :D
[2017-03-05 23:38:35] sleger : problem solved
[2017-03-05 23:38:42] Farzad : LOL
[2017-03-05 23:38:49] Farzad : InvalidUser: u r not banned
[2017-03-05 23:38:51] InvalidUser : O WTF did I do now
[2017-03-05 23:39:04] Farzad : InvalidUser: He is not a mod !
[2017-03-05 23:39:09] Farzad : LOL
[2017-03-05 23:39:39] sleger : yes he only made giant trolls the mods
[2017-03-05 23:39:56] Farzad : sleger: BTCDJS is a giant troll ?
[2017-03-05 23:40:02] sleger : he is #2
[2017-03-05 23:40:09] InvalidUser : One day I will be a mod
[2017-03-05 23:40:09] Farzad : and who is #1 ?
[2017-03-05 23:40:14] sleger : rapid, and he is a mod
[2017-03-05 23:40:14] shahroozgroup2 : farzad can i massage to your telegram now
[2017-03-05 23:40:20] Farzad : shahroozgroup2: sure
[2017-03-05 23:41:57] Farzad : sleger: rapid ? he is not a mod ! lol
[2017-03-05 23:42:00] sleger : i can prove it, see: /ban rapid
[2017-03-05 23:42:04] sleger : and he is not banned
[2017-03-05 23:42:07] sleger : cause he is a mod
[2017-03-05 23:44:04] jarek : can the contracts be updated after I make my bet?
[2017-03-05 23:46:38] rangle : not sure what youre asking jarek
[2017-03-05 23:47:57] jarek : rangle: COIN will be decided on 12th but the decision may be passed on 13th. Clearly a mistake on bitmex. So I want to know if they can change the contract once they realise the mistake.
[2017-03-05 23:48:36] Farzad : jarek: yes they can
[2017-03-05 23:48:40] jarek : contracts are to be paid out on 12th
[2017-03-05 23:48:55] oz : /sentiment
[2017-03-05 23:48:57] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 17.06 / 82.94 Daily : 46.01 / 53.99 Weekly : 53.40 / 46.60 Monthly : 49.69 / 50.31```
[2017-03-05 23:49:01] oz : lul
[2017-03-05 23:49:16] mtourig3 : HERE COMES THE BOOM
[2017-03-05 23:49:21] jarek : which is likely going to be pass (as SEC will not say anything by the 12th)
[2017-03-05 23:49:33] InvalidUser : CLose your shorts
[2017-03-05 23:49:41] oz : ^
[2017-03-05 23:50:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTH17`: buy 17350 @ 1321.28
[2017-03-05 23:50:21] oz : welcome back REKT bot
[2017-03-05 23:50:41] jarek : am i right?
[2017-03-05 23:50:46] wurstgelee : wb REKT+
[2017-03-05 23:53:29] InvalidUser : jarek: If the decision gets delayed 48 hours you are not going to win your long by default.
[2017-03-05 23:54:04] hmmmYea : InvalidUser: COIN will settle at 0 if the SEC does not approve the proposed rule change. COIN will settle at 100 if the SEC approves the proposed rule change. (Note: this includes the scenario in which the SEC does not disapprove the rule change by March 11, as this implies an automatic approval)
[2017-03-05 23:54:20] hmmmYea : InvalidUser: yes you will
[2017-03-05 23:54:21] InvalidUser : I have read the contract
[2017-03-05 23:54:49] sleger : contracts can change
[2017-03-05 23:55:11] jarek : hope any changes in the future won't affect my past bets
[2017-03-05 23:55:26] hmmmYea : InvalidUser: it seems pretty clear that you win the long. why do you think you won't?
[2017-03-05 23:55:50] jarek : I went long due to the resolution date mentioned by bitmex
[2017-03-05 23:56:31] jarek : I still can lose if SEC explicitly declines by March 11 but I accept that low probability
[2017-03-05 23:56:56] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 233 @ 1276.35
[2017-03-05 23:57:41] GTmann : the winks would be dicks to make the SEC reject since historically all have been withdrawn, so by coin settlement date, it should be functionally the same as changing date to monday
[2017-03-05 23:58:11] GTmann : but who knows, wild west this all this at times
[2017-03-05 23:59:36] rangle : high positive swap funding and high quarterly premium, how could this end poorly?
[2017-03-06 00:04:12] -_- : this has been happening recently
[2017-03-06 00:04:25] -_- : i get all excited and then price goes up and shorts close and i end up disappointed
[2017-03-06 00:04:32] -_- : epic dump would be more epic
[2017-03-06 00:05:03] -_- : i'm guessing price will go up and shorts close and then etf decision and more shorts close as we moon
[2017-03-06 00:05:09] rangle : that was yesterday
[2017-03-06 00:05:22] rangle : the dump, that is
[2017-03-06 00:05:34] -_- : dump wasnt even that bad
[2017-03-06 00:05:45] -_- : i'm waiting for the dump that goes down $200-$300 on quarterly here
[2017-03-06 00:05:46] Farzad : /wall
[2017-03-06 00:05:49] trollbot : ``` ±$30 Bid|Ask liq : (43 mins) $3.1m (4.39%) | $9.1m (2.84%) ```
[2017-03-06 00:05:49] rangle : quarterly matched index price briefly, thats rare
[2017-03-06 00:06:38] -_- : poloniex is down
[2017-03-06 00:06:51] -_- : XMR market maker left
[2017-03-06 00:07:09] -_- : and it's back
[2017-03-06 00:07:44] adddd : xmr falls again
[2017-03-06 00:11:17] rms : shouldn't zec be due for a pump?
[2017-03-06 00:11:24] rms : or is the weird mining calculus still dragging the economics down?
[2017-03-06 00:24:27] cryptobull : whats up with the 0.5 buy/sells on finex?
[2017-03-06 00:29:02] ross : Weird
[2017-03-06 00:32:02] adddd : newbee question: can I buy/sell on XBTUSD Premium Index?
[2017-03-06 00:32:05] cryptonoob : should I do a yolo short here with Liq price of $1300?
[2017-03-06 00:33:13] gustavo7 : cryptonoob: i'd think this is a bad idea, cuz i got burned 25% on shorts
[2017-03-06 00:45:42] cookielito : Yolo trades just make real traders rich
[2017-03-06 00:46:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `DASH7D`: buy 50 @ 0.033980
[2017-03-06 00:48:37] Sultan Pepper : cryptonoob: the trend is your friend
[2017-03-06 00:56:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `DASH7D`: buy 10 @ 0.034355
[2017-03-06 00:59:17] babybaby : dump some COIN ETF on me
[2017-03-06 01:03:30] -_- : wonder if there will be a coordinated sell off to trick people into thinking ETF was rejected
[2017-03-06 01:04:43] Sultan Pepper : -_-: if you think there *won't* be a fakeout, you're daft
[2017-03-06 01:07:39] -_- : i hope we find out by the middle of the week. i want to enjoy my friday and weekend without having to worry about ETF
[2017-03-06 01:08:41] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBCH17`: sell 2000 @ 8631.2
[2017-03-06 01:08:44] -_- : the new weekly candle is pushing outside the BBANDS so either this candle will be huge or a big dump.
[2017-03-06 01:09:54] -_- : everything just seems over bought. logically make sense for a retrace
[2017-03-06 01:11:32] cryptonoob : Pboc announcement coming soon, anyone care to tell me what this is all about?: https://twitter.com/cryptoSqueeze/status/838543254391906305
[2017-03-06 01:16:40] oz : He is kidding man
[2017-03-06 01:16:57] oz : Markets doing well? Time for a PBOC announcement
[2017-03-06 01:18:18] sleger : this one is for aethlios and other ltc baholders : https://twitter.com/cryptoSqueeze/status/836555045256585216
[2017-03-06 01:18:58] arbitrage101 : just an opinion
[2017-03-06 01:19:03] arbitrage101 : not fact
[2017-03-06 01:19:15] arbitrage101 : i just called tru-mp
[2017-03-06 01:19:23] arbitrage101 : he said he will approve etf
[2017-03-06 01:19:52] InvalidUser : wooo finx
[2017-03-06 01:20:03] oz : /joke
[2017-03-06 01:20:04] trollbot : ``` I once won a 5 on 1 street fight. We kicked that guy's ass!```
[2017-03-06 01:20:33] rapidtrades : cryptonoob: who;s that guy
[2017-03-06 01:21:51] arbitrage101 : nice funding we got
[2017-03-06 01:21:57] arbitrage101 : hope i dont get rekt
[2017-03-06 01:22:12] sleger : dont scare it away
[2017-03-06 01:28:03] rapidtrades : cnledger is not sayign abtyhing aabout PBOC
[2017-03-06 01:29:47] arbitrage101 : double positive news from pboc and etf going to shoot price up to 2k and above
[2017-03-06 01:30:03] arbitrage101 : and double negative news will be equally fun
[2017-03-06 01:30:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `DASH7D`: buy 8 @ 0.034830
[2017-03-06 01:31:04] y1uy : them fake walls lol
[2017-03-06 01:35:34] rapidtrades : arbitrage101: gee tnx
[2017-03-06 01:36:30] arbitrage101 : just saying
[2017-03-06 01:36:39] arbitrage101 : should not gamble in this enviornment
[2017-03-06 01:37:29] arbitrage101 : just sux on juicy funding rate for now
[2017-03-06 01:39:39] rapidtrades : its not a gamble u idiiots
[2017-03-06 01:40:03] rapidtrades : u have to have ur head pretty far up ur asas to think SEC will approve a bitcoin ETF
[2017-03-06 01:40:06] paper : cool to see bloomberg already listing the etf https://www.bloomberg.com/quote/COIN:US
[2017-03-06 01:40:16] rapidtrades : paper, ur an idiot
[2017-03-06 01:40:17] Sultan Pepper : rapidtrades: thanks ;)
[2017-03-06 01:40:44] paper : rapidtrades: wait, i thought you were the one who shorted the rally early on. i guess i'm mistaken
[2017-03-06 01:41:20] arbitrage101 : rapidtrades: not the first time government agency do something stupid
[2017-03-06 01:42:56] rapidtrades : honestly the odds for etf approval right now are prolly lowest they've been in years due to the skeletal organization of SEC right now
[2017-03-06 01:43:27] arbitrage101 : the betting here still have higher than 40% odd
[2017-03-06 01:43:38] arbitrage101 : which is extremely high odd
[2017-03-06 01:43:51] rapidtrades : the betting here bid up ZEC to 1.5 BTC before it lauched
[2017-03-06 01:44:02] arbitrage101 : paid off nicely
[2017-03-06 01:44:19] rapidtrades : hint bitcoiners like to hype shit up
[2017-03-06 01:44:30] rapidtrades : if it isn't ZEC, its ETF
[2017-03-06 01:44:43] arbitrage101 : do you have enough capital to withstand the hype
[2017-03-06 01:44:44] rapidtrades : noone talked about this stupid ETF until china came down hard on exchanges
[2017-03-06 01:44:58] rapidtrades : they just move from one hype to the next
[2017-03-06 01:45:03] rapidtrades : hype train
[2017-03-06 01:45:06] lockhedge : rapidtrades: didn't you buy ZEC at >2 btc?
[2017-03-06 01:45:23] rapidtrades : lockhedge: I am not a very polite person
[2017-03-06 01:45:41] arbitrage101 : rapidtrades: that was my mother
[2017-03-06 01:45:53] rapidtrades : :)
[2017-03-06 01:45:55] donsteep : and my father
[2017-03-06 01:48:11] paper : rapidtrades: i thought the etf has been the main hype for years now. guess i've been wrong all along?
[2017-03-06 01:49:44] paper : it's the best we can hope for b/c it's a bit of a stretch to have major countries declare it their official currency or even start hoarding it on taxpayer money like they do w/ metals/oil
[2017-03-06 01:50:55] rapidtrades : no the ETF hasn't beeen a main drier, its just HYPE
[2017-03-06 01:51:15] arbitrage101 : metal and oil have use
[2017-03-06 01:51:24] arbitrage101 : what do you do with bitcoin?
[2017-03-06 01:51:42] rapidtrades : an ETF by itself is not necessarily positive for the price either
[2017-03-06 01:51:49] arbitrage101 : it is
[2017-03-06 01:51:56] rapidtrades : its just a trading instrument, it buys and sells shares, buys and sell bitcoin
[2017-03-06 01:51:57] arbitrage101 : seal of approval from sec
[2017-03-06 01:52:10] arbitrage101 : to steal retirement fund
[2017-03-06 01:52:14] arbitrage101 : pension
[2017-03-06 01:52:54] rapidtrades : GBTC was prolly more positive for the price cos it locked up invested funds for 1 yr
[2017-03-06 01:55:12] rapidtrades : back in the day main driver was hope that this shit will turn into a currency
[2017-03-06 01:56:56] odieoh : @rapidtrades are you serious, an ETF is not necessarily positive for price. . .it can be NOTHING but positive. It's a tap for a huge new source of fiat to enter the crypto system and nothing else
[2017-03-06 01:57:09] rapidtrades : whatever u say bud
[2017-03-06 01:57:14] odieoh : I say that
[2017-03-06 01:57:22] odieoh : and you are a "moran" if you say elsewhise
[2017-03-06 01:57:50] sleger : *otherwise
[2017-03-06 01:57:59] rapidtrades : ppl who are too stupid to link a bank accunt with coinbase or kraken don't have that much money
[2017-03-06 01:57:59] InvalidUser : Finex making a move
[2017-03-06 01:58:11] rapidtrades : account
[2017-03-06 01:58:25] rapidtrades : censorship here is getting out of hand
[2017-03-06 01:59:00] sleger : dont forget the o then
[2017-03-06 01:59:25] sleger : ETF allows most funds to invest though, which they cant do today, plus all retirement accounts
[2017-03-06 01:59:52] sleger : it's an inflow of new money, so yes it's a positive for price
[2017-03-06 02:00:03] rapidtrades : yes im sure all these retiremetn account are just dying to buy bitcoins
[2017-03-06 02:00:11] sleger : not all no
[2017-03-06 02:00:38] rapidtrades : most ppl buying this shit are millennias who hate banks bro
[2017-03-06 02:00:47] rapidtrades : do they even have an IRA
[2017-03-06 02:00:53] rapidtrades : or a Etrade account
[2017-03-06 02:01:17] arbitrage101 : you think millennias generation have the money to pump bitcoin to 20b cap
[2017-03-06 02:01:22] rapidtrades : or money lol
[2017-03-06 02:01:45] arbitrage101 : and eth to over 10b
[2017-03-06 02:01:58] arbitrage101 : plus various alt coins
[2017-03-06 02:02:08] rapidtrades : there's onl 70m per day traded, so saying 20b cap is misleading
[2017-03-06 02:02:19] rapidtrades : cos 90% of that is not tradeable
[2017-03-06 02:02:30] arbitrage101 : not 100% tradable, yes
[2017-03-06 02:02:37] rapidtrades : u can move this market with 10mil extra per day
[2017-03-06 02:02:42] arbitrage101 : but mining industry in china alone is huge
[2017-03-06 02:02:56] rapidtrades : mining industry SELLS bro
[2017-03-06 02:03:13] kurkudu : i see rapid is here, everything is good in trollbox)
[2017-03-06 02:03:13] arbitrage101 : and you need enough capital infusion to crytoland to sustain price
[2017-03-06 02:03:17] arbitrage101 : daily
[2017-03-06 02:03:31] rapidtrades : no u dont, that's what im saying
[2017-03-06 02:04:25] rapidtrades : total daily vol in west is 30mil and that includes fakin finex
[2017-03-06 02:04:59] rapidtrades : in theory even 5m per day extra buying will cause massive effect
[2017-03-06 02:06:11] InvalidUser : 194 buy wall at finx
[2017-03-06 02:14:42] rapidtrades : https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/5xpqq7/the_bitcoin_etf_makes_massive_short_selling_from/dejzg5r/
[2017-03-06 02:15:16] rapidtrades : on the irony...i could open a metalworks shop
[2017-03-06 02:15:35] sleger : i thought we wouldnt even get close to the deadline ?
[2017-03-06 02:15:47] sleger : yet March 6th
[2017-03-06 02:15:51] rapidtrades : I wonder does it work the opposite way too ''Any large investor that had a desire to buy Bitcoin would already be doing it''
[2017-03-06 02:16:28] rapidtrades : sleger: go arb smth or unhedge 10% of ur coins
[2017-03-06 02:17:11] sleger : looks like you're getting scared
[2017-03-06 02:23:17] Hawkeye : when will june futures be posted? at closing of the march ones or before?
[2017-03-06 02:24:14] jose : https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/5xotiq/bitmex_contract_on_coin_sec_decision_closes_on/
[2017-03-06 02:24:47] BitMEX_John : Hawkeye: we usually release one to two weeks before the expiry of the current (March) future
[2017-03-06 02:25:19] jose : BitMEX_John: Any news on the COIN settlement date not being accurate ?
[2017-03-06 02:25:46] jose : BitMEX_John: the contract states that if no decision is made on march 12th the contract will be settle to ACCEPT
[2017-03-06 02:26:07] jose : but the SEC deadline is narch 1
[2017-03-06 02:26:12] jose : march13*
[2017-03-06 02:26:19] BitMEX_John : jose: we will be making an announcement very shortly to clarify everything
[2017-03-06 02:26:42] Hawkeye : BitMEX_John: thnx
[2017-03-06 02:32:49] Sultan Pepper : sleger: My theory thickens. You have 10% of your coin hedged in rapid, short from who-cares-when because it's "usd" gaining interest, and like to express your opinions both exactly and ambiguously through both accounts.
[2017-03-06 02:33:21] Sultan Pepper : *each account
[2017-03-06 02:35:24] Sultan Pepper : sleger: both of which are helpful for any who can care or decode enough to understand
[2017-03-06 02:35:36] Sultan Pepper : say nothing if i'm right
[2017-03-06 02:37:40] Sultan Pepper : :)
[2017-03-06 02:39:35] odieoh : The silence speaks volumes
[2017-03-06 02:41:11] Sultan Pepper : The two wisest traders here, despite the mob-mentality against slegertrades
[2017-03-06 02:41:33] Sultan Pepper : "Two"
[2017-03-06 02:42:22] Hawkeye : we need one last farewell dump to 1200 before launching this .....
[2017-03-06 02:42:33] odieoh : If that's the case he's playing the "long game" with it though, I've definitely seen those "two" argue with "each other"
[2017-03-06 02:43:25] InvalidUser : Read your email
[2017-03-06 02:43:40] paper : http://etfdailynews.com/2017/03/05/winklevoss-bitcoin-etf-decision-due-this-week-bitcoin-to-2000/
[2017-03-06 02:44:59] Sultan Pepper : odieoh: it's a great show, especially for noobs. He's fucking smart, and nobody seems to understand the legit finances behind it when everyone gets to "hahahaha fucking rapid short from 8xx so dumb"
[2017-03-06 02:45:16] rapidtrades : trying to figure out which side is favored by options, to me it looks even with very high volatility https://www.deribit.com/main#/options
[2017-03-06 02:45:24] rapidtrades : @Rado u here?
[2017-03-06 02:46:23] rapidtrades : implied vol is much higher on puts, so i assume downside is favored
[2017-03-06 02:46:45] odieoh : @sultan Pepper yeah I have to agree, shorting (especially if hedged) is a great way to sit and earn interest- it's basically all I'm doing here. I'm going to adjust my position to net long for the possible ETF, but I'm mostly neutral and collecting funding
[2017-03-06 02:47:28] puppet : Sultan Pepper: stop dropping acid
[2017-03-06 02:48:03] Sultan Pepper : puppet: who the f uck are you?
[2017-03-06 02:48:05] odieoh : puppet: sock puppet or regular?
[2017-03-06 02:48:48] puppet : oh the irony @ Saltand Pepper @odieoh
[2017-03-06 02:49:03] odieoh : lol
[2017-03-06 02:49:11] Sultan Pepper : odieoh: shorting 1x here will **always** yield a fixed usd rate, plus interest
[2017-03-06 02:49:34] Sultan Pepper : puppet: how many do you have?!
[2017-03-06 02:49:38] paper : https://cointelegraph.com/news/to-the-moon-analysts-optimistic-towards-bitcoin-etf-approval-50-percent-probability
[2017-03-06 02:49:49] odieoh : Sultan Pepper: yup. . and with a little bit of leverage it is an amazing rate
[2017-03-06 02:50:16] puppet : Sultan Pepper: dunno, stopped counting at 50 :)
[2017-03-06 02:50:18] Sultan Pepper : paper: lost me at a cartoon
[2017-03-06 02:50:22] odieoh : Especially the two upcoming rounds
[2017-03-06 02:52:20] Rapid_Puppet : Fuck you @odieoh
[2017-03-06 02:53:38] odieoh : Oh cool, COIN settlement date got changed, thats good
[2017-03-06 02:54:13] Sultan Pepper : Rapid_Puppet: you're fu cking kidding me
[2017-03-06 02:54:40] elmorte : > @rapidtrades: yes im sure all these retiremetn account are just dying to buy bitcoins
[2017-03-06 02:54:44] elmorte : Heh, literally
[2017-03-06 02:55:42] odieoh : I will in my retirement account (depending on how high it goes between now and when its available I guess) Same with ETH if an ETF gets approved
[2017-03-06 02:55:50] elmorte : I gotta say listing COIN was a great marketing move by Arthur & Co... The contract got quoted in so many articles
[2017-03-06 02:56:16] elmorte : This despite only like 2 ppl being interested when he asked in the trollbox
[2017-03-06 02:56:32] rapidtrades : good for them bad for us
[2017-03-06 02:56:56] rapidtrades : IQ here has reached dangerous levels
[2017-03-06 02:57:07] elmorte : bad for the trollbox, good for the wallet
[2017-03-06 02:57:13] Sultan Pepper : Alright. Stupid fu cking rapidtrades! Who told you to short at 880? You're so dumb! What an idiot. I'll never listen to anything you say because you're dumb. Close your fu cling short, why don't ya?
[2017-03-06 02:57:19] ripcord : The ETF if approved will create great demand
[2017-03-06 02:57:40] Sultan Pepper : Moran
[2017-03-06 02:58:02] Mm bot : Mod any tip on using trailing order to trade ETF break outs? Does it trigger the price within certain period of time or it is the price move for 1 tick
[2017-03-06 02:58:03] ripcord : Everyone wants to speculate a little, but it it too difficult for the average person...not so if they can do it in their IRA
[2017-03-06 02:58:35] rapidtrades : how many ppl have IRAs as opposed to regular retirement accounts tho
[2017-03-06 02:58:56] rapidtrades : IRAs are not best for tax purposes afaik
[2017-03-06 02:59:21] odieoh : @ripcord yeah, to think that an ETF approval will do anything but put upward pressure on BTC is madness. .. . rational or not, justified or not, it will make the price go up
[2017-03-06 02:59:41] rapidtrades : retirements accounts for most americans are composed of few mutual funds
[2017-03-06 02:59:52] Sultan Pepper : odieoh: are you sleger too? Shit....
[2017-03-06 02:59:59] rapidtrades : its not possible to self-direct outside IRA
[2017-03-06 03:00:09] Sultan Pepper : i'm the only other one here
[2017-03-06 03:00:20] odieoh : There's nothing special about an IRA as far as BTC goes, 401k, 403b, Roth IRA, Traditional IRa- ETFs are available in all of them
[2017-03-06 03:00:31] Sultan Pepper : *existential crisis impending*
[2017-03-06 03:00:39] micmix : how about this scenario: ETF is approved, everyone buys pushing the price to 2k, then China starts 'inspection' of Chinese miners and mining is 'postponed for 30 days'. that would be loads of fun lol
[2017-03-06 03:00:42] ripcord : I don't know the numbers, but tons of "normal" people have IRAs
[2017-03-06 03:00:43] rapidtrades : odieoh: i don't think so
[2017-03-06 03:00:53] Hawkeye : Sultan Pepper: what if all of this is just in your head ;)
[2017-03-06 03:01:34] Sultan Pepper : Hawkeye: at least two accounts I can make sense of. But what if you're him too?
[2017-03-06 03:01:34] odieoh : @rapidtrades- so note EVERY retirement plan grants access to "self-directed" funds, but all of those TYPES of accounts CAN have self directed funds where you get to choose
[2017-03-06 03:01:35] rapidtrades : im not american but I think 401k only offers limited choice of funds
[2017-03-06 03:01:39] odieoh : *not
[2017-03-06 03:01:45] ripcord : if it becomes popular it will be available to 401ks
[2017-03-06 03:01:51] Hawkeye : Sultan Pepper: what if i am YOU ? ;)
[2017-03-06 03:02:00] rapidtrades : odieoh: not where
[2017-03-06 03:02:12] Sultan Pepper : Hawkeye: no. I stopped smoking weed years ago
[2017-03-06 03:02:30] Hawkeye : Sultan Pepper: i didnt.. so if i am you , you are still smoking too ....
[2017-03-06 03:02:31] odieoh : @rapidtrades I have a 401k that I can choose any stock or ETF. I can't buy/sell options or write options, but that's the only limitation
[2017-03-06 03:02:42] odieoh : ETFs are all fair game
[2017-03-06 03:02:50] rapidtrades : is that normal tho?
[2017-03-06 03:02:51] Sultan Pepper : Hawkeye: i might be high right now...
[2017-03-06 03:02:52] odieoh : but some plans are limited to a select basket of mutual funds
[2017-03-06 03:02:59] rapidtrades : are u self-emplyed?
[2017-03-06 03:03:02] odieoh : it is admittedly more the exception than the rule
[2017-03-06 03:03:07] rapidtrades : exactly
[2017-03-06 03:03:08] odieoh : no I'm not self employed
[2017-03-06 03:03:36] Hawkeye : only retirement i will have is the small gov amount (if it still exists by then) and my btc... if i have any left ;)
[2017-03-06 03:03:39] rapidtrades : most common complaint on reddit finance subs is my 401k doesn't allow this or that fund
[2017-03-06 03:03:39] odieoh : But the whole point is, if its available to institutional money, the mutual funds themselves can choose to have some exposure to BTC
[2017-03-06 03:03:57] ripcord : true it will not be available immediately to most 401ks, but tons of people have IRAs
[2017-03-06 03:04:02] rapidtrades : institutional money will not touch a 70m per day market
[2017-03-06 03:04:04] odieoh : And the scale of money available "institutionally" is megaginormous
[2017-03-06 03:04:21] rapidtrades : liquidity is way too low
[2017-03-06 03:04:36] odieoh : I mean. . that works in the favor of longs though
[2017-03-06 03:04:39] Hawkeye : rapidtrades: Brexit, trump and if you see how much snapchat got... nothing suprises me :)
[2017-03-06 03:04:47] Sultan Pepper : Sleger: care to weigh-in on this?
[2017-03-06 03:05:00] Hawkeye : lol bitmex, good translation of trump ;)
[2017-03-06 03:05:12] rapidtrades : i agree it favors longs but only short-term, long-term ETF impact is vastly overestimated
[2017-03-06 03:05:28] elmorte : micmix: holy shit. that's scary...would leave tons of money on the table though!
[2017-03-06 03:05:36] elmorte : How long does the difficulty take to adjust>
[2017-03-06 03:06:16] rapidtrades : 1 week?
[2017-03-06 03:06:28] odieoh : yeah I agree @rapidtrades for long term, who the F knows what will happen. but in the short term, if ETF approved, there's gonna be some serious upward price action
[2017-03-06 03:06:31] micmix : elmorte: every 2016 blocks, normally 2 weeks
[2017-03-06 03:06:46] rapidtrades : thats scary long
[2017-03-06 03:07:04] micmix : and if has rate drops it's going to be more like 1-2 month
[2017-03-06 03:07:04] odieoh : IMO Eth is the future of crypto but I'm happy to ride BTC tulipmania
[2017-03-06 03:07:11] micmix : *hash rate
[2017-03-06 03:07:48] Sultan Pepper : My brain is going to pop
[2017-03-06 03:08:07] odieoh : plug your nose and blow
[2017-03-06 03:08:15] Hawkeye : short them futures into my bids so i can get some sleep !
[2017-03-06 03:08:31] jose : odieoh: ETH is one of the future of crypto, indeed. But its value proposition is unique so it is not the only one. Cant compare to BTC btw
[2017-03-06 03:08:36] elmorte : micmix: I'm googling for myself, but would you know what % of pools are China-based?
[2017-03-06 03:08:57] rapidtrades : so any ETF withdrawal will happen during US business hours?
[2017-03-06 03:09:05] elmorte : 50-75% I guess if you say 1-2 months
[2017-03-06 03:09:08] Hawkeye : rapidtrades: guess so
[2017-03-06 03:09:33] Hawkeye : well denial will , withdrawel might be anytime if winkles want to
[2017-03-06 03:09:50] micmix : elmorte: different estimations, but most say 90% of hash rate is in China
[2017-03-06 03:10:03] elmorte : Yikes
[2017-03-06 03:10:33] startChat : china hashing, the real capital flight
[2017-03-06 03:10:34] elmorte : Still...the economic disincentives are massive
[2017-03-06 03:11:01] elmorte : Well, if they're paying for electricity, they're paying RMB
[2017-03-06 03:11:38] micmix : they are paying bribes to get free electricity from government-run power plants afaik
[2017-03-06 03:12:00] elmorte : still, someone in China is getting paid
[2017-03-06 03:12:11] elmorte : but I understand your point
[2017-03-06 03:12:31] elmorte : I love how I wake up Monday all ready for work, then I open Bitmex just for a look-see....*sigh*
[2017-03-06 03:13:12] micmix : who need work when bitcoin is so exciting ;-)
[2017-03-06 03:13:12] ripcord : lol free china electricity
[2017-03-06 03:13:24] ripcord : you guys are insane
[2017-03-06 03:13:56] elmorte : micmix: gotta diversify :)
[2017-03-06 03:14:46] elmorte : ripcord: do tell...
[2017-03-06 03:16:15] ripcord : china's GNP is 20 trillion
[2017-03-06 03:16:25] ripcord : BTC is a drop
[2017-03-06 03:20:04] elmorte : The hell is your point man? Not a mind reader
[2017-03-06 03:20:23] Felix : Will Bitcoin start trading fundamentals like political risk e.g. North Korea that just shot a projectile into the South China sea. Could Bitcoin become a safe-haven currency?
[2017-03-06 03:20:34] rullwull : If Chinese miners will be shout down hope finally Segwit may be accepted
[2017-03-06 03:22:01] rapidtrades : Felix: no
[2017-03-06 03:22:14] Felix : Why not?
[2017-03-06 03:22:17] rullwull : micmix: only shortens need to go to work;)
[2017-03-06 03:25:06] .. : no need to work, getting paid in 34 mins again
[2017-03-06 03:26:50] rapidtrades : yess
[2017-03-06 03:26:54] rapidtrades : pay me dumblongs
[2017-03-06 03:26:56] rapidtrades : pay me
[2017-03-06 03:26:58] rapidtrades : now
[2017-03-06 03:27:05] rapidtrades : PAYDAY IN 33 MINS
[2017-03-06 03:27:08] rapidtrades : PAYDAY IMMINENT
[2017-03-06 03:27:47] rapidtrades : hte one after is 0.25%, gotta sting
[2017-03-06 03:28:05] rapidtrades : I'm guessing the manipulators will try to push prices higher before that
[2017-03-06 03:28:24] rapidtrades : to make the funding worthwhile
[2017-03-06 03:34:15] Brazilian Goat : /rekt
[2017-03-06 03:34:39] Brazilian Goat : /sentiment
[2017-03-06 03:34:39] rullwull : rapidtrades: R u able to collect more than 10 dollars funding fee with the size of your position?
[2017-03-06 03:34:42] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 95.74 / 4.26 Daily : 45.40 / 54.60 Weekly : 53.41 / 46.60 Monthly : 49.70 / 50.30```
[2017-03-06 03:36:26] Brazilian Goat : /price
[2017-03-06 03:36:29] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1266.00 (26.60%) Bitfinex : 1277.00 (27.70%) The Woodchipper : 1276.94 (27.69%) itBit : 1279.63 (27.96%) Kraken : 1268.13 (26.81%) GDAX : 1279.68 (27.97%) SLQ : ```
[2017-03-06 03:36:52] Brazilian Goat : /help
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[2017-03-06 03:36:52] trollbot : `/price`: Shows last trade price of BTC/USD on all major exchanges. `/wall`: Shows ±$30 liquidity on OKCoin, Bitstamp, Bitflyer & Bitfinex `/sentiment`: Shows market sentiment in Sell/Buy ratio. `/rekt`: Shows margin call highlights of the day.
[2017-03-06 03:37:55] Sultan Pepper : Yo
[2017-03-06 03:37:55] y1uy : rullwull: why not?
[2017-03-06 03:38:10] Sultan Pepper : /stop
[2017-03-06 03:40:57] rullwull : y1uy: if you max collect 10 dollars from funding fee than you defienatly need to work
[2017-03-06 03:41:37] y1uy : rullwull: oh i thought it was a legit question
[2017-03-06 03:41:41] y1uy : tired af my bad
[2017-03-06 03:49:59] jose : /rekt
[2017-03-06 03:50:49] Sultan Pepper : /no
[2017-03-06 03:51:08] Sultan Pepper : /scroll up
[2017-03-06 03:51:14] Sultan Pepper : /archive
[2017-03-06 03:51:20] Sultan Pepper : /china box
[2017-03-06 03:52:20] tb : 750k sell
[2017-03-06 03:52:25] tb : par for the course
[2017-03-06 03:52:40] tb : i wonder who that idiot is
[2017-03-06 03:52:44] .. : someone market buy gogo
[2017-03-06 03:52:57] tb : if they get filled how are they going to get out after they collect their .2%
[2017-03-06 03:53:06] y1uy : .2% payout for shorts nice!
[2017-03-06 03:53:25] rowrow : clearly he just wants a free $1400
[2017-03-06 03:53:48] tb : good luck with the slippage trying to get out of the position though
[2017-03-06 03:54:21] Hawkeye : market sell it ;)
[2017-03-06 03:54:36] y1uy : or hodl
[2017-03-06 03:55:09] Brazilian Goat : Can i still get the 0.2 if i sell now?
[2017-03-06 03:55:19] longbydefault : yes
[2017-03-06 03:55:23] Hawkeye : yup 2 min left
[2017-03-06 03:55:26] Hawkeye : 4
[2017-03-06 03:55:32] rowrow : :28
[2017-03-06 03:55:49] Nur : bye bye dash
[2017-03-06 03:58:34] .. : wow seems like we are heading down AND get free funds, LOOKING BAD
[2017-03-06 03:59:00] y1uy : ..: ya
[2017-03-06 03:59:22] y1uy : ..: feels good right
[2017-03-06 03:59:24] rowrow : every time the price falls $3 a shorter comes out of the woodworks "WE"RE ABOUT TO GO DOWN TO $800 LOOKS BAD UH OH LONGS"
[2017-03-06 03:59:28] .. : I wonder how quick mr 700k will remove his wall
[2017-03-06 03:59:53] Jason : 10 seconds to short
[2017-03-06 03:59:56] .. : rowrow: just trolling lol, too be fair, longers do the same with "buy the dip" as we go down lol
[2017-03-06 04:00:00] rowrow : who knows, maybe it's legitmate, try to get people buying right after funding and then dump
[2017-03-06 04:00:14] tb : holy shit
[2017-03-06 04:00:18] tb : someone bought the wall lol
[2017-03-06 04:00:19] .. : what was that
[2017-03-06 04:00:26] y1uy : lol
[2017-03-06 04:00:31] tb : rip 700k guy
[2017-03-06 04:00:33] Coconuter : he bought his own wall
[2017-03-06 04:00:33] .. : I do not follow what happened
[2017-03-06 04:00:35] mtourig3 : on what?
[2017-03-06 04:00:38] y1uy : nigga forgot his wall
[2017-03-06 04:00:45] aeos : lol lucky for us
[2017-03-06 04:00:49] tb : after funding someone bought the wal
[2017-03-06 04:00:50] tb : lol
[2017-03-06 04:00:50] rowrow : Coconuter: stranger things have happened certainly
[2017-03-06 04:03:01] .. : there are no fee levels, so buying own wall seems like an expensive move ?
[2017-03-06 04:03:10] .. : (not like exchange with low fees for whales)
[2017-03-06 04:03:19] .. : ah well
[2017-03-06 04:03:49] tb : right, you would pay 5 basis points
[2017-03-06 04:04:05] tb : tank time
[2017-03-06 04:04:18] .. : LOOKING BAD
[2017-03-06 04:04:23] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 6822 @ 1272.54
[2017-03-06 04:04:23] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 850 @ 1270.59
[2017-03-06 04:04:23] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 50000 @ 1269.19 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2017-03-06 04:04:23] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 500 @ 1269.81
[2017-03-06 04:04:23] REKT : HODL HODL HODL!
[2017-03-06 04:04:23] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 52377 @ 1269.51 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2017-03-06 04:04:23] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 2 @ 1273.03 :punch: :whale:
[2017-03-06 04:04:23] .. : " :D "
[2017-03-06 04:04:36] Brazilian Goat : Lolololol
[2017-03-06 04:05:12] longbydefault : congrats mr 700k :D
[2017-03-06 04:05:18] elmorte : ^^
[2017-03-06 04:05:26] tb : lol
[2017-03-06 04:05:44] .. : guess mr 700k was the one selling on stamp, well done
[2017-03-06 04:05:48] y1uy : very nice me g
[2017-03-06 04:05:52] rowrow : all right so... time to change the index yet?
[2017-03-06 04:06:44] Brazilian Goat : /price
[2017-03-06 04:06:47] vgck : How much lower we going?
[2017-03-06 04:06:49] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1255.94 (-0.79%) Bitfinex : 1268.80 (-0.64%) The Woodchipper : 1271.60 (-0.42%) itBit : 1278.00 (-0.13%) Kraken : 1260.09 (-0.63%) GDAX : 1269.72 (-0.78%) SLQ : 30 mins```
[2017-03-06 04:07:10] y1uy : u guys should of held ur shorts LOL
[2017-03-06 04:07:27] -_- : monday dump
[2017-03-06 04:07:37] .. : I did, free money in 8 and 16 hours again
[2017-03-06 04:07:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBJH17`: sell 53 @ 154660
[2017-03-06 04:08:33] .. : big walls on mex today lol
[2017-03-06 04:08:51] .. : 1 million to 1265, we can do it guys
[2017-03-06 04:09:20] Sultan Pepper : *be steady, be strong, be big-balled, be long*
[2017-03-06 04:10:16] y1uy : finex seems to like 1267
[2017-03-06 04:11:55] Sultan Pepper : *playin' psycho games like norma bates*
[2017-03-06 04:12:08] .. : well that was some exciting action
[2017-03-06 04:12:24] Coconuter : my computer frooze up
[2017-03-06 04:12:30] Coconuter : could only watch
[2017-03-06 04:12:35] Coconuter : nice ddos attack while trading
[2017-03-06 04:12:39] Coconuter : his bots kept going
[2017-03-06 04:12:47] kurkudu : Another chance to buy the dip
[2017-03-06 04:13:07] Coconuter : could see the action and numbers but couldnt click on the website
[2017-03-06 04:13:11] rowrow : Coconuter: this site lags a lot, it might have just been that
[2017-03-06 04:13:12] Coconuter : had to log from another device
[2017-03-06 04:13:30] Coconuter : yes but for sure has some background attacks
[2017-03-06 04:14:48] Sultan Pepper : Bitmex occasionally switches my (iphone) tab to "market." Thanks.
[2017-03-06 04:15:01] GTmann : They changed coin expiry date to 13
[2017-03-06 04:15:03] Sultan Pepper : Cant fool me
[2017-03-06 04:15:19] GTmann : Sorry if that's old news
[2017-03-06 04:15:46] rowrow : step 1: sell 700k+ right after funding step 2: dump markets step 3: buy back in
[2017-03-06 04:16:34] rowrow : so someone tell me how having only 2 low-medium volume exchanges in the swap index is a good idea?
[2017-03-06 04:18:08] kurkudu : rowrow: you can't dump mark price here
[2017-03-06 04:18:45] rowrow : kurkudu: i don't think you're understanding what i'm saying, you dump here, then abuse the low-liquidity index to rebuy in at a lower price
[2017-03-06 04:18:46] kurkudu : just buy the dips and roll your joints
[2017-03-06 04:19:26] rowrow : you sell at okc and bitstamp to force sells and liquidations on bitmex to rebuy
[2017-03-06 04:20:16] oz : alright not sure if bitmex just shit the bed but it just ran my market order twice lol
[2017-03-06 04:20:21] oz : wtf
[2017-03-06 04:20:25] oz : uh
[2017-03-06 04:20:34] kurkudu : Don't think someone will manipulate spot prices to liq someone here @rowrow
[2017-03-06 04:21:42] rowrow : did you not just watch what happened? that was very obviously a manipulative dump, though whether they were just abusing index here or in general isn't 100% certain
[2017-03-06 04:21:59] zeropoint : kurkudu: u must be new to this
[2017-03-06 04:22:18] .. : while I agree, I don't think he actually made money now? of course could work other times
[2017-03-06 04:22:20] kurkudu : zeropoint: check leaderboard
[2017-03-06 04:22:30] .. : seems it didnt crash as much as he/they hoped :x