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[2017-03-04 18:16:43] MikeHunt : BTCDJS: should others be forced to cooperate or forced to pay for it?
[2017-03-04 18:19:46] Sultan Pepper : looks like traders are traking finex rather than index. nice
[2017-03-04 18:20:47] BTCDJS : MikeHunt: look let's be real here. You have your view of the way things should be and I have mine. Even if we were face to face we would still disagree. You and I aren't going to solve this. At least we live in a democracy. But you are still DEAD to me. Filthy UKIP supporter
[2017-03-04 18:21:21] BTCDJS : And your charts are shit
[2017-03-04 18:22:09] carl : Why so aggressive?
[2017-03-04 18:22:17] MikeHunt : he wont answer my question
[2017-03-04 18:22:23] carl : You guys can have differing opinions
[2017-03-04 18:22:24] carl : That's ok
[2017-03-04 18:22:43] MikeHunt : lefties are naturally intolerant
[2017-03-04 18:22:55] carl : Everyone's intolerant
[2017-03-04 18:23:00] carl : Goddamned
[2017-03-04 18:23:03] MikeHunt : i can relate to marxists, at least they are open about their intolerance
[2017-03-04 18:23:15] carl : No need to draw lines about it
[2017-03-04 18:23:32] carl : We're all stupid apes, you can dress it up all you like but we're all pretty much teh same
[2017-03-04 18:23:49] KyllingLolsson : BTCDJS: marxist??
[2017-03-04 18:23:50] MikeHunt : carl: everyone is intolerant, some try to hide it thou as to appear righteous
[2017-03-04 18:24:00] BTCDJS : MikeHunt: ha! Lefties? You literally advocated for Nigel by saying he is a libertarian. You don't get more left than that!
[2017-03-04 18:24:03] carl : Yeah but it's not like the left is any owrse than the right
[2017-03-04 18:24:15] carl : it's hypocritcal of you to say that
[2017-03-04 18:24:24] MikeHunt : BTCDJS: depends what u mean by left/right, UKIP is technically centrist by mainstream standards
[2017-03-04 18:24:46] ross : that buy order
[2017-03-04 18:25:01] MikeHunt : carl: left = marxist socialist, right = national socialist, centrist = libertarian
[2017-03-04 18:25:16] BTCDJS : Anyway you are DEAD to me
[2017-03-04 18:25:20] KyllingLolsson : All we need is love @MikeHunt
[2017-03-04 18:25:30] MikeHunt : KyllingLolsson: tell that to @BTCDJS
[2017-03-04 18:25:34] MikeHunt : mr. tolerant lefty
[2017-03-04 18:25:54] MikeHunt : hes not even inquistive, just insulting
[2017-03-04 18:25:56] KyllingLolsson : Well im a lefty tio
[2017-03-04 18:26:06] MikeHunt : KyllingLolsson: what type?
[2017-03-04 18:26:26] JT : wow 900K at 1261 on the order book
[2017-03-04 18:26:28] BTC-Noob : wow thats massive 1mil
[2017-03-04 18:26:35] ross : yea
[2017-03-04 18:26:36] BTC-Noob : @1261
[2017-03-04 18:26:38] KyllingLolsson : MikeHunt: social liberal
[2017-03-04 18:26:43] ross : wowow
[2017-03-04 18:26:49] ross : 1261.99
[2017-03-04 18:26:52] BTC-Noob : vs 500k at 1262
[2017-03-04 18:27:05] ross : this is wow
[2017-03-04 18:27:07] BTC-Noob : bull 1 mil vs bear 500k
[2017-03-04 18:27:09] ross : never seen this stand off before
[2017-03-04 18:27:26] BTC-Noob : bull will winn anyway
[2017-03-04 18:27:30] BTC-Noob : BUY AND HODLLLL
[2017-03-04 18:27:44] MikeHunt : KyllingLolsson: do you believe people should be robbed via tax to pay for things?
[2017-03-04 18:28:29] ross : 1261.99 for the next 2 hours
[2017-03-04 18:28:32] BTC-Noob : that 500k will be a massive rekt in a couple of dayds
[2017-03-04 18:28:32] KyllingLolsson : No @MikeHunt, but everyone should help eachother, and one way is tax
[2017-03-04 18:28:42] MikeHunt : KyllingLolsson: taxation is theft
[2017-03-04 18:28:55] KyllingLolsson : Lol
[2017-03-04 18:29:04] Sultan Pepper : then who the fuck else will pay for public things?
[2017-03-04 18:29:05] CutTheLosses : lol @ wall
[2017-03-04 18:29:15] JT : MikeHunt: do you use public services?
[2017-03-04 18:29:18] KyllingLolsson : MikeHunt: not really
[2017-03-04 18:29:21] BTC-Noob : that 500k could also mean that we might make 1 very last pump, before dump
[2017-03-04 18:29:27] Sultan Pepper : the way it is weighted is theft, but its the public paying for public shit
[2017-03-04 18:29:30] ross : is this rapidtrades about to get rekt?
[2017-03-04 18:29:32] MikeHunt : JT: thats irrelevant
[2017-03-04 18:29:36] JT : MikeHunt: not really
[2017-03-04 18:29:36] KyllingLolsson : MikeHunt: theft is theft, tax is tax
[2017-03-04 18:29:45] MikeHunt : KyllingLolsson: help via theft?
[2017-03-04 18:29:51] KyllingLolsson : MikeHunt: no via tax
[2017-03-04 18:29:56] BTC-Noob : target price before dump; 1400$
[2017-03-04 18:29:59] MikeHunt : KyllingLolsson: tax is theft by definition
[2017-03-04 18:30:04] KyllingLolsson : MikeHunt: how
[2017-03-04 18:30:04] cryptobull : woah big orders
[2017-03-04 18:30:05] InvalidUser : wow 600000 short
[2017-03-04 18:30:11] CutTheLosses : two whalebots at equilibrium
[2017-03-04 18:30:13] MikeHunt : KyllingLolsson: look up the definition of both
[2017-03-04 18:30:14] Puffle-Razor-Spark : nice
[2017-03-04 18:30:19] KyllingLolsson : MikeHunt: im not stupid
[2017-03-04 18:30:28] Sultan Pepper : MikeHunt: how do you think the roads you use are paid for?
[2017-03-04 18:30:35] ross : buy is getting eaten up
[2017-03-04 18:30:38] KyllingLolsson : MikeHunt: i will not play your hate game
[2017-03-04 18:30:43] BTC-Noob : wow these massive amounts
[2017-03-04 18:30:52] InvalidUser : Whale fight in the orderbook
[2017-03-04 18:30:52] freact : haah statists always worried about thier roads
[2017-03-04 18:30:56] BTC-Noob : another 100k
[2017-03-04 18:31:04] MikeHunt : Sultan Pepper: same way ppl buy bread
[2017-03-04 18:31:12] MikeHunt : KyllingLolsson: hate game?
[2017-03-04 18:31:26] KyllingLolsson : MikeHunt: u seem pretty hateful?
[2017-03-04 18:31:33] Sultan Pepper : MikeHunt: so there should be a toll booth at every single entry and exit point of a road?
[2017-03-04 18:31:34] PARAFFIN : wthf
[2017-03-04 18:31:37] PARAFFIN : fuck
[2017-03-04 18:31:39] MikeHunt : KyllingLolsson: why do i seem that way?
[2017-03-04 18:31:55] MikeHunt : Sultan Pepper: thats 1 of many methods of payment
[2017-03-04 18:31:57] Sultan Pepper : MikeHunt: who pays for the toll booths?
[2017-03-04 18:32:04] freact : KyllingLolsson: projection @MikeHunt
[2017-03-04 18:32:09] MikeHunt : Sultan Pepper: thats up to the market to decide
[2017-03-04 18:32:14] KyllingLolsson : freact: how
[2017-03-04 18:32:15] MikeHunt : freact: ?
[2017-03-04 18:32:15] BTC-Noob : together we will tackle the remaining 500k ear
[2017-03-04 18:32:41] Sultan Pepper : why am i getting goaded into a troll....
[2017-03-04 18:32:50] freact : KyllingLolsson: claiming MikeHunts being hateful
[2017-03-04 18:33:08] KyllingLolsson : MikeHunt: i dont believe in attacking your Pov, even if i dont agree
[2017-03-04 18:33:24] MikeHunt : KyllingLolsson: u fear my pov?
[2017-03-04 18:33:29] MikeHunt : why not challenge it?
[2017-03-04 18:33:41] KyllingLolsson : freact: u cant just say projection randomly
[2017-03-04 18:33:56] ross : HELLO BEARS
[2017-03-04 18:33:59] KyllingLolsson : MikeHunt: nope no fear. Im on mobile
[2017-03-04 18:34:05] BTC-Noob : lol the 500k bear gave up that pussy
[2017-03-04 18:34:10] freact : i mean... i did,so...
[2017-03-04 18:34:24] KyllingLolsson : freact: yes randomly
[2017-03-04 18:34:45] MikeHunt : im not intolerant of lefties because i once was one, i understand how they came to their pov and why they behave so irrationally
[2017-03-04 18:35:28] KyllingLolsson : MikeHunt: what r u intolerant against then
[2017-03-04 18:35:39] Ahhere : Oh fuck im so bored fuck
[2017-03-04 18:35:57] MikeHunt : KyllingLolsson: im not sure anymore
[2017-03-04 18:36:01] PARAFFIN : Ahhere: arent you fucking?
[2017-03-04 18:36:03] Sultan Pepper : that 1h cloud bounce tho
[2017-03-04 18:36:04] MikeHunt : enlightenment makes it more difficult
[2017-03-04 18:36:05] thomaskikansha : that 600K short is closing?
[2017-03-04 18:36:24] Ahhere : PARAFFIN: not yet u?
[2017-03-04 18:36:37] PARAFFIN : Ahhere: i have no gf
[2017-03-04 18:36:38] ross : thomaskikansha: it didnt get eaten, the guy took it off the books
[2017-03-04 18:36:42] PARAFFIN : Ahhere: :(
[2017-03-04 18:36:45] KyllingLolsson : MikeHunt: even if we're different, i will accept u as a human
[2017-03-04 18:37:44] MikeHunt : KyllingLolsson: usually wen someone says something like that or tries to say "lets agree to disagree" what they are really saying is they dont want to admit the possibility they are wrong
[2017-03-04 18:37:46] ross : i dont understand why they didnt buy on the dip to 1240
[2017-03-04 18:37:57] ross : maybe anotner dump coming soon?
[2017-03-04 18:38:00] cryptobull : ross: short order 600k got executed
[2017-03-04 18:38:05] Ahhere : @PARAFFIN <<this guy gently does the caressing
[2017-03-04 18:38:11] ross : cryptobull: haooy days
[2017-03-04 18:38:11] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 255 @ 1259.46
[2017-03-04 18:38:24] KyllingLolsson : MikeHunt: im on mobile
[2017-03-04 18:38:38] MikeHunt : KyllingLolsson: perhaps another time then
[2017-03-04 18:38:54] Sultan Pepper : ross: for longer -term trades, dip buying is silly
[2017-03-04 18:38:59] KyllingLolsson : MikeHunt: +1
[2017-03-04 18:39:14] Sultan Pepper : ross: best to spot a good entry
[2017-03-04 18:39:19] ross : Sultan Pepper: suppose its too volatile down there?
[2017-03-04 18:39:47] Sultan Pepper : ross: yes
[2017-03-04 18:40:19] Sultan Pepper : ross: for me, 1260 signaled a good entry, not the big dips
[2017-03-04 18:40:35] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 250 @ 1261.30
[2017-03-04 18:40:35] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 3000 @ 1259.73
[2017-03-04 18:40:35] REKT : Close your longs, close your shorts, choppy waters ahead!
[2017-03-04 18:40:41] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 500 @ 1261.46
[2017-03-04 18:41:40] KyllingLolsson : /sentiment
[2017-03-04 18:41:43] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 33.87 / 66.13 Daily : 68.19 / 31.81 Weekly : 53.84 / 46.16 Monthly : 49.72 / 50.28```
[2017-03-04 18:41:43] ross : Sultan Pepper: thanks for the advice
[2017-03-04 18:42:11] Sultan Pepper : ross: well, it wasn't really advice if you don't know what i'm talking about
[2017-03-04 18:42:21] Sultan Pepper : ross: but look at the cloud 1h
[2017-03-04 18:42:34] ross : Sultan Pepper: I've been playing with the big dips and losing money
[2017-03-04 18:42:58] Sultan Pepper : ross: big dips are great, most of the time, for scalping
[2017-03-04 18:43:25] BTC-Noob : please fill my short on 75
[2017-03-04 18:43:35] KyllingLolsson : Btcsdj: u here??
[2017-03-04 18:44:34] Farzad : KyllingLolsson: he is BTCDJS
[2017-03-04 18:44:37] Farzad : not dsj
[2017-03-04 18:44:50] KyllingLolsson : Farzad: thx
[2017-03-04 18:44:54] Farzad : np
[2017-03-04 18:44:59] Sultan Pepper : BTC's DJ
[2017-03-04 18:45:06] KyllingLolsson : Btcdjs: u here?
[2017-03-04 18:45:12] abbey : some of u guys sold 2k swap contracts @ 1241.25 to me, thank u
[2017-03-04 18:45:17] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 100 @ 1262.30
[2017-03-04 18:45:28] BTCDJS : Yup
[2017-03-04 18:45:31] Farzad : bears will get rekt :D
[2017-03-04 18:45:43] KyllingLolsson : BTCDJS: how is things?
[2017-03-04 18:45:56] BTCDJS : KyllingLolsson: fine mate
[2017-03-04 18:46:08] Farzad : /price
[2017-03-04 18:46:11] Ahhere : abbey: u always buyin that dip
[2017-03-04 18:46:11] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1260.61 (1.00%) Bitfinex : 1267.50 (1.04%) The Woodchipper : 1266.19 (1.05%) itBit : 1266.91 (0.81%) Kraken : 1259.00 (0.90%) GDAX : 1269.85 (0.60%) SLQ : 53 mins```
[2017-03-04 18:46:37] KyllingLolsson : BTCDJS: what was that with mike
[2017-03-04 18:46:45] oz : /sentiment
[2017-03-04 18:46:48] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 28.54 / 71.46 Daily : 68.32 / 31.68 Weekly : 53.88 / 46.12 Monthly : 49.72 / 50.28```
[2017-03-04 18:46:52] InvalidUser : abbey: I got some contracts at the price too
[2017-03-04 18:46:59] abbey : Ahhere: about 2,5 hours ago, just noticed
[2017-03-04 18:47:33] Sultan Pepper : i love that we're trading at a premium because we all just decided "f uck stamp"
[2017-03-04 18:47:43] abbey : InvalidUser: nice catch that was! well done us!
[2017-03-04 18:47:52] BTCDJS : KyllingLolsson: Mike was WRONG and I was challenging him but he has made his mind up and there is no point
[2017-03-04 18:47:53] Sultan Pepper : finex seems to be it rn
[2017-03-04 18:47:55] InvalidUser : Woot!
[2017-03-04 18:48:15] KyllingLolsson : abbey: :)
[2017-03-04 18:48:28] ross : all short
[2017-03-04 18:48:50] KyllingLolsson : BTCDJS: :)
[2017-03-04 18:49:02] cryptoyolo : 280k contracts =o
[2017-03-04 18:49:35] ross : time to rekt the shorters
[2017-03-04 18:50:40] MikeHunt : BTCDJS: are you a Remainian?
[2017-03-04 18:51:11] j8 : is open interest going up or down? whos paying attention
[2017-03-04 18:51:17] KyllingLolsson : Lets just hug eachother shall we? @MikeHunt @BTCDJS
[2017-03-04 18:51:29] Sultan Pepper : j8: up i think
[2017-03-04 18:51:30] MikeHunt : KyllingLolsson: yeh, lets "cooperate together"
[2017-03-04 18:51:30] KyllingLolsson : And mabye a BJ
[2017-03-04 18:51:35] MikeHunt : lol
[2017-03-04 18:52:04] MikeHunt : apparently i am "dead to him"
[2017-03-04 18:52:21] Sultan Pepper : "head" to him
[2017-03-04 18:52:21] MikeHunt : i think that means he put me in a mental gulag
[2017-03-04 18:52:33] InvalidUser : 1200 Users https://d2r1vs3d9006ap.cloudfront.net/s3_images/974874/borat-approves-meme-generator-i-am-very-excite-8d6743.jpg-1312443012.jpg?1382388027
[2017-03-04 18:52:37] BTC-Noob : where do these huge orders come from woww
[2017-03-04 18:52:39] j8 : Sultan Pepper: yes i think so
[2017-03-04 18:53:11] Sultan Pepper : holy moses
[2017-03-04 18:53:18] KyllingLolsson : MikeHunt: i understand both of u guys
[2017-03-04 18:53:20] j8 : it's beyond me why someone would be buying like a million on swap now
[2017-03-04 18:53:59] odieoh : Aint complaining, pump up the funding, pump it up, pump it up!
[2017-03-04 18:54:05] Ahhere : j8: he who dares..
[2017-03-04 18:54:19] thomaskikansha : outstanding contract is gonig up
[2017-03-04 18:54:36] MikeHunt : KyllingLolsson: what ideology am i then?
[2017-03-04 18:54:36] odieoh : Well I just doubled my leverage
[2017-03-04 18:55:03] KyllingLolsson : MikeHunt: not sure, but far right i guess
[2017-03-04 18:55:09] MikeHunt : KyllingLolsson: bzzt wrong
[2017-03-04 18:55:21] KyllingLolsson : MikeHunt: so tell
[2017-03-04 18:55:35] MikeHunt : KyllingLolsson: monarchist
[2017-03-04 18:56:24] KyllingLolsson : MikeHunt: wich aint economically left right
[2017-03-04 18:56:34] MikeHunt : KyllingLolsson: ikr
[2017-03-04 18:56:44] KyllingLolsson : Ikr?
[2017-03-04 18:56:52] Sultan Pepper : i know right
[2017-03-04 18:57:06] KyllingLolsson : This hip lingo
[2017-03-04 18:57:13] Sultan Pepper : on fleek
[2017-03-04 18:57:21] KyllingLolsson : Im too White for this
[2017-03-04 18:57:32] Sultan Pepper : gtfo rn ttyl
[2017-03-04 18:57:39] Ahhere : KyllingLolsson: racist
[2017-03-04 18:57:54] Sultan Pepper : KyllingLolsson: :D
[2017-03-04 18:57:58] KyllingLolsson : Ahhere: no really im White for real
[2017-03-04 18:58:11] Ahhere : KyllingLolsson: again??
[2017-03-04 18:58:17] KyllingLolsson : Ahhere:??
[2017-03-04 18:58:35] Ahhere : ur being racist again
[2017-03-04 18:58:47] KyllingLolsson : *Autism alert*
[2017-03-04 18:59:04] Ahhere : definitely racist
[2017-03-04 18:59:12] KyllingLolsson : That was a joke
[2017-03-04 18:59:15] MikeHunt : must be a national socialist...
[2017-03-04 18:59:50] KyllingLolsson : MikeHunt: lol noo
[2017-03-04 19:01:36] KyllingLolsson : Btcdjs: we still friends tho?? ☺️
[2017-03-04 19:01:48] Ahhere : etf decision cant come fast enough
[2017-03-04 19:02:20] MikeHunt : mar13
[2017-03-04 19:02:22] MikeHunt : dump day
[2017-03-04 19:02:39] Ahhere : MikeHunt: today is dash dump day
[2017-03-04 19:02:43] amirmass : RIPPPPPPPPPPPP
[2017-03-04 19:02:44] amirmass : BTC
[2017-03-04 19:03:24] cryptobull : amirmass: ?
[2017-03-04 19:04:09] ross : why are we not pumping
[2017-03-04 19:04:15] amirmass : im joking i sold for 1900% profit, waiting for a nice dip
[2017-03-04 19:04:16] KyllingLolsson : Ahhere: this zone is just volatile
[2017-03-04 19:04:46] MikeHunt : expecting another dump
[2017-03-04 19:04:48] KyllingLolsson : Ahhere: oops wrong persin
[2017-03-04 19:04:48] MikeHunt : to around 1200
[2017-03-04 19:05:02] cryptobull : I think we're done dipping for today..
[2017-03-04 19:05:03] amirmass : this could be the bottom
[2017-03-04 19:05:06] amirmass : according to daily
[2017-03-04 19:05:09] amirmass : yes
[2017-03-04 19:05:19] amirmass : but we could see more dumps to 1160 zone
[2017-03-04 19:05:26] amirmass : if we break the trendline
[2017-03-04 19:06:00] cryptobull : trendline still intact on the daily
[2017-03-04 19:06:03] cryptobull : :D
[2017-03-04 19:06:19] amirmass : cryptobull: u should make sure that ur liq price is lower than 1150
[2017-03-04 19:06:59] MikeHunt : might see bounce on 1250
[2017-03-04 19:07:06] MikeHunt : then continue upwards until etf dec.
[2017-03-04 19:07:23] cryptobull : amirmass: I'm out if we break 1260 on finex
[2017-03-04 19:08:22] OaktreeCapital : I am the one pushing down BTC. You know the ETF won't be approved, right?
[2017-03-04 19:08:52] MikeHunt : cryptobull: buy side looks thin on finex
[2017-03-04 19:09:23] cryptobull : MikeHunt: u think?
[2017-03-04 19:10:34] cryptoyolo : MikeHunt: no that much
[2017-03-04 19:10:51] MikeHunt : might see 1240 on finex again
[2017-03-04 19:10:53] cryptoyolo : MikeHunt: i would call it even for i have observed this shit all day during some time
[2017-03-04 19:11:49] MikeHunt : we're definately in a rising wedge on the 1day thou
[2017-03-04 19:12:08] MikeHunt : question is whether it can last another week
[2017-03-04 19:13:03] MikeHunt : 1160 is also possible
[2017-03-04 19:13:24] cryptoyolo : everything is possible, question is which is more likely to happen
[2017-03-04 19:13:35] cryptoyolo : u wanna call it a top even a week away?
[2017-03-04 19:13:52] MikeHunt : cryptoyolo: not top, 1160 then week pump is possible
[2017-03-04 19:13:59] MikeHunt : if u look at previous dump in wedge
[2017-03-04 19:15:02] cryptoyolo : MikeHunt: i get you
[2017-03-04 19:16:07] MikeHunt : cryptoyolo: http://i.imgur.com/mXuKGUc.png
[2017-03-04 19:16:29] MikeHunt : oops
[2017-03-04 19:17:31] MikeHunt : cryptoyolo: http://i.imgur.com/wfcpzfp.png
[2017-03-04 19:18:53] InvalidUser : FFS transactions are taking for ever
[2017-03-04 19:19:07] cryptoyolo : idk... ii has failed to reach tenkan-sen multiple times
[2017-03-04 19:19:59] MikeHunt : cryptoyolo: yeh, could be ~1220 then back up
[2017-03-04 19:20:57] cryptoyolo : much more likely
[2017-03-04 19:23:21] -_- : people longed that dip hard here
[2017-03-04 19:23:23] cryptoyolo : MikeHunt: i wouldnt like it though, got my trailing stop to 20
[2017-03-04 19:23:26] -_- : open contracts way up near record highs
[2017-03-04 19:24:04] -_- : insiders cant make it more obvious. ETF approved
[2017-03-04 19:24:37] cryptoyolo : -_-: after that 5k bought yesterday on gemini... might consider this a possibility
[2017-03-04 19:24:58] MikeHunt : this will probably get more unstable the higher we go
[2017-03-04 19:25:03] MikeHunt : with less corrections
[2017-03-04 19:25:13] InvalidUser : -_-: (:
[2017-03-04 19:25:18] MikeHunt : if i had to call a top i'd say ~1375
[2017-03-04 19:25:28] MikeHunt : on h17
[2017-03-04 19:25:41] -_- : otherwise etf rejection = buy the dip and everyone buys BTC anyways
[2017-03-04 19:27:21] KyllingLolsson : MikeHunt: hope this dump pattern will be like the one from 1 january
[2017-03-04 19:27:35] MikeHunt : KyllingLolsson: it may be a lot sharper
[2017-03-04 19:27:38] MikeHunt : and protracted
[2017-03-04 19:27:42] MikeHunt : there is no floor imo
[2017-03-04 19:27:51] KyllingLolsson : MikeHunt: and a lot of fear at this level
[2017-03-04 19:28:10] MikeHunt : the ETF masks over several fundamental issues that btc has
[2017-03-04 19:28:26] KyllingLolsson : well... 1000 and 900 is strong support
[2017-03-04 19:29:28] MikeHunt : KyllingLolsson: imo that support is based on etf hype
[2017-03-04 19:29:35] MikeHunt : the assumption that it would pass
[2017-03-04 19:30:22] KyllingLolsson : hope we wont see 600 area
[2017-03-04 19:30:30] MikeHunt : KyllingLolsson: it may go a lot lower than that
[2017-03-04 19:30:51] KyllingLolsson : why so bearish?
[2017-03-04 19:30:59] MikeHunt : KyllingLolsson: http://i.imgur.com/1bFgl7Z.png
[2017-03-04 19:31:10] MikeHunt : the mean mean
[2017-03-04 19:31:16] MikeHunt : the mean is mean*
[2017-03-04 19:31:33] KyllingLolsson : that's a mean chart
[2017-03-04 19:32:20] MikeHunt : KyllingLolsson: i think aethlios posted this a while back, even more scary...https://www.tradingview.com/chart/BTCUSD/BbY68ENA-Bitcoin-UPSIDE-DOWN/
[2017-03-04 19:33:18] MikeHunt : pattern could be symmetrical
[2017-03-04 19:35:03] vgck : Do any of the alts have an inverse relationship with bitcoin? Like, which one would be best to hedge during ETF madness? DASH?
[2017-03-04 19:35:49] MikeHunt : vgck: none are completely uncorrelated
[2017-03-04 19:36:00] MikeHunt : vgck: all fall against USD during a btc crash
[2017-03-04 19:36:08] vgck : Bummer
[2017-03-04 19:36:17] MikeHunt : vgck: however longing one on lvg during a crash could be profitable
[2017-03-04 19:36:23] MikeHunt : if shorting btc aint an option
[2017-03-04 19:37:06] MikeHunt : so during etf ill prob long eth which either parries btc or goes up
[2017-03-04 19:37:10] MikeHunt : safest option imo
[2017-03-04 19:40:31] vgck : Cool, thanks. I was thinking might be a good idea coming weekend, it's going to be crazy and Bitmex doesn't allow us to hold USD
[2017-03-04 19:40:51] InvalidUser : Mex order book is stacked with buy orders
[2017-03-04 19:40:51] vgck : I just noticed that wall on stamp is still there, should we be worried?
[2017-03-04 19:41:42] degen : DANG IT! i pussied out of my big short last night and it would've hit my lowest order.fml
[2017-03-04 19:43:00] vgck : lol
[2017-03-04 19:44:53] KyllingLolsson : MikeHunt: thats a bit pessiistic... btw soe keys at y keyboard doesnt work... spilled coke
[2017-03-04 19:45:11] KyllingLolsson : better buy soe eth then
[2017-03-04 19:46:00] MikeHunt : KyllingLolsson: might wanna buy a new keyboard first ;)
[2017-03-04 19:46:21] KyllingLolsson : aahhh....
[2017-03-04 19:46:24] MikeHunt : KyllingLolsson: i dont rly care about btc or any other shitcoin beyond profiting from it
[2017-03-04 19:46:31] MikeHunt : i am and always will be a goldbug
[2017-03-04 19:46:43] KyllingLolsson : tine will tell
[2017-03-04 19:46:56] MikeHunt : 6000 yrs of gold vs ~6 yrs of btc
[2017-03-04 19:47:15] InvalidUser : EMA kiss on Bitflyer
[2017-03-04 19:47:29] Hawkeye : MikeHunt: you also live in a cave and rub sticks to make fire for heat? thats been old too ;)
[2017-03-04 19:48:01] MikeHunt : Hawkeye: if u dont have any gold wen the global reset comes u may have to do that to survive
[2017-03-04 19:48:08] MikeHunt : good luck with ur btc in that environment
[2017-03-04 19:48:32] InvalidUser : Good luck trying to buy bread with gold
[2017-03-04 19:48:35] Hawkeye : if shtf i do not believe gold will save a single soul... farmers will be the rich ones
[2017-03-04 19:48:52] MikeHunt : Hawkeye: thats why u diversify
[2017-03-04 19:48:54] InvalidUser : /\
[2017-03-04 19:49:01] Hawkeye : neither will btc btw.. thats why they refer to it as shtf.. else it would be business as normal :)
[2017-03-04 19:49:06] MikeHunt : Hawkeye: gold, water, stored food
[2017-03-04 19:49:28] Ahhere : gold gets your money through to the other side of the reset. medicine guns water skills and toilet paper get u thru TSHF
[2017-03-04 19:49:34] Ahhere : not that its gonna happen anyway
[2017-03-04 19:50:00] MikeHunt : looks at venuezuela as a potential future of the wests
[2017-03-04 19:50:07] MikeHunt : if it continues down the path of liberalism
[2017-03-04 19:50:32] Ahhere : MikeHunt: look at oj simpson as the potential future for all people
[2017-03-04 19:50:42] InvalidUser : Kiss
[2017-03-04 19:50:47] MikeHunt : Ahhere: o.0
[2017-03-04 19:50:58] InvalidUser : On BS and Finx
[2017-03-04 19:51:04] Hawkeye : i am a weird person, i believe in a healthy mix of communal and capitalistic ideas in life. Cheap and abundant for all we NEED to live and the rest well make yourself useful if you want luxuries
[2017-03-04 19:51:23] Ahhere : the robots will keep you ^
[2017-03-04 19:51:33] MikeHunt : Hawkeye: entirely voluntary?
[2017-03-04 19:51:35] Hawkeye : ppl working for money is gonna be gone soon, robots will take the hand work
[2017-03-04 19:51:59] MikeHunt : ppl will always work for money
[2017-03-04 19:52:04] Ahhere : robots will flush you^
[2017-03-04 19:52:08] MikeHunt : robots just mean they have to do less tedious jobs
[2017-03-04 19:52:29] Hawkeye : MikeHunt: ppl that love their job will keep doing it, if no one wants a job build a f-ing robot for it/ plenty of ppl i know who would love those design challenges
[2017-03-04 19:52:56] Hawkeye : ppl will need a basic income to be a paid consumer.. just enough for basics of living
[2017-03-04 19:53:08] MikeHunt : Hawkeye: where does that basic income come from?
[2017-03-04 19:53:23] Ahhere : we'll all just eat shit and fuck sexbots until the robots get sick of our shit
[2017-03-04 19:53:27] KyllingLolsson : MikeHunt: from me
[2017-03-04 19:53:33] MikeHunt : KyllingLolsson: lol
[2017-03-04 19:53:34] Hawkeye : where does money come from now? iso trickly down, start a wicking up :) still same circle
[2017-03-04 19:53:38] KyllingLolsson : got myself a new keyboard now!!°
[2017-03-04 19:54:05] MikeHunt : Hawkeye: so ur gonna print ur way to riches?
[2017-03-04 19:54:20] KyllingLolsson : Hawkeye: thats not wierd, i think the same
[2017-03-04 19:54:43] Hawkeye : no , you stuff it on the bottom and tax it on profits at the top
[2017-03-04 19:54:51] MikeHunt : Hawkeye: so steal from others?
[2017-03-04 19:55:30] Hawkeye : thats not stealing unless you call getting rich stealing someone elses efforts?
[2017-03-04 19:55:54] MikeHunt : Hawkeye: how do the rich steal elses efforts?
[2017-03-04 19:56:40] KyllingLolsson : MikeHunt: don't be stupid i know you arnt
[2017-03-04 19:56:52] Hawkeye : well one example... get small kids sowing shirts in bangladesh for a penny a day and sell in the US for $10 per shirt....
[2017-03-04 19:56:55] j8 : point is that automation favours capital, not labour. if society does nothing then inequality only grows
[2017-03-04 19:57:46] MikeHunt : Hawkeye: how is that theft?
[2017-03-04 19:58:19] Hawkeye : well go sow the shirts for a penny a day and sell them in stead so you use your labour to make yourself rich
[2017-03-04 19:58:22] KyllingLolsson : MikeHunt: lol, thats the same logic as "tax is theft"
[2017-03-04 19:58:46] MexPizza : Why give kids in bangladesh more than market rate for labor?
[2017-03-04 19:59:12] MikeHunt : Hawkeye: some people prefer employment over the risk of enterprise
[2017-03-04 19:59:17] Hawkeye : i dont see why someone has to have billions and others starve to death. i would feel like a piece of crap to live like that
[2017-03-04 19:59:18] MikeHunt : but that doesnt make employers theives
[2017-03-04 19:59:32] MikeHunt : KyllingLolsson: taxation is theft by dictionary definition
[2017-03-04 19:59:33] Hawkeye : Mike no the really rich go over dead bodies to get rich
[2017-03-04 19:59:41] MikeHunt : Hawkeye: thats not theft thou
[2017-03-04 20:00:03] Hawkeye : ok abuse, murder etc... not sure its better then calling it theft
[2017-03-04 20:00:17] MikeHunt : Hawkeye: im not questioning that, only your conflation with theft
[2017-03-04 20:00:17] Hawkeye : calling tax theft is the same nonsense
[2017-03-04 20:00:28] j8 : murder is not as bad as theft to libertarians ;)
[2017-03-04 20:00:33] MikeHunt : Hawkeye: dictionary is pretty clear on it
[2017-03-04 20:00:53] MikeHunt : if taxation is theft, then the lefts ideology is kaput
[2017-03-04 20:01:01] MikeHunt : thats why they cant accept it
[2017-03-04 20:01:09] MikeHunt : j8: +1
[2017-03-04 20:01:10] j8 : the right also wants taxation, just for different things
[2017-03-04 20:01:20] MikeHunt : j8: national socialists?
[2017-03-04 20:01:21] Rado : lol j8
[2017-03-04 20:01:21] Hawkeye : let me put it in a way you might apreciate... if the rich do not take care that the masses have a basic income , enough to live off and not worry too much, they will get a revolution
[2017-03-04 20:01:29] j8 : taxing for military spending is also theft by your argument
[2017-03-04 20:01:36] MikeHunt : j8: yup
[2017-03-04 20:01:44] j8 : so it's not the left
[2017-03-04 20:01:45] Hawkeye : and we're not that far from that... robot society can be there in a flash
[2017-03-04 20:02:04] Rado : anarchist have none aggression principal
[2017-03-04 20:02:07] MikeHunt : Hawkeye: not necessarily
[2017-03-04 20:02:17] Hawkeye : (btw hope i am not breaking chat rules here like i would be on Tradingview) ;)
[2017-03-04 20:02:19] MikeHunt : Hawkeye: market provides the best income
[2017-03-04 20:02:39] Hawkeye : MikeHunt: in 50yrs i bet 50% of the ppl will not be able to find ANY work
[2017-03-04 20:02:45] Hawkeye : maybe even more
[2017-03-04 20:02:57] MikeHunt : Hawkeye: if lefties keep destroying jobs then yeh that could happen
[2017-03-04 20:03:32] Hawkeye : MikeHunt: in china there are factories that had hundreds of personel.. now NONE at the factory itself, just 60 engineers to keep it running
[2017-03-04 20:03:50] Hawkeye : and more and more jobs will go, taxis, transport etce
[2017-03-04 20:03:53] Hawkeye : etc
[2017-03-04 20:03:56] MikeHunt : Hawkeye: that means hundreds of people can now do something more productive
[2017-03-04 20:04:30] Hawkeye : your way of life can only work if you pay ppl to produce then pay them to burn it... else... enough is enough and we dont NEED workersd
[2017-03-04 20:04:38] Ahhere : No work is a bad thing?
[2017-03-04 20:04:39] KyllingLolsson : MikeHunt: u think that eth will rise as much as btc falls??
[2017-03-04 20:05:02] Hawkeye : iso wasting like that its better to have basic income (also means less costs in wages for the companies that do employ! so more profits)
[2017-03-04 20:05:27] BTCDJS : MikeHunt: YOU ARE A ƒUCKING IDIOT
[2017-03-04 20:05:36] Hawkeye : Ahhere: no work is a good thing in my eyes, ppl are too valuable to hide in factories. but current society demands work to live
[2017-03-04 20:05:48] Hawkeye : BTCDJS: no need to insult though
[2017-03-04 20:05:49] KyllingLolsson : Hawkeye: im also for basic income. @BTCDJS yes he is an asshole
[2017-03-04 20:06:09] Ahhere : Yep & there'll be plenty of money for basic wage cos they gonna tax the robots @Hawkeye
[2017-03-04 20:06:13] KyllingLolsson : But i can tolerare him
[2017-03-04 20:06:15] MikeHunt : Hawkeye: burn it?
[2017-03-04 20:06:18] Dynamix : btc might continue a downtrend
[2017-03-04 20:06:19] BTCDJS : KyllingLolsson: NO HE IS JUST A ÏUCKING STUPID IDIOT
[2017-03-04 20:06:24] CutTheLosses : basic income+btc = jeez
[2017-03-04 20:06:27] MikeHunt : BTCDJS: i love how intolerant he is
[2017-03-04 20:06:27] Dynamix : til 1200 ;)
[2017-03-04 20:06:33] j8 : swearing in caps, come on
[2017-03-04 20:06:41] BTCDJS : j8: sorry mate
[2017-03-04 20:07:01] j8 : was a civil discussion up until that :)
[2017-03-04 20:07:01] BTCDJS : but he's just so Dumb
[2017-03-04 20:07:14] MikeHunt : the intolerance of the left, how i bathe in it
[2017-03-04 20:07:19] Hawkeye : BTCDJS: avg human is an idiot and 50% is below it ;)
[2017-03-04 20:07:34] BTCDJS : Hawkeye: ok hes bellow average
[2017-03-04 20:07:45] BTCDJS : by that rationale
[2017-03-04 20:07:52] KyllingLolsson : BTCDJS: Hey!!! Zen
[2017-03-04 20:08:07] MikeHunt : KyllingLolsson: hedging a btc freefall is difficult in anything other than fiat, but eth in long term looks positive either way etf goes, at least if u ask @sledger
[2017-03-04 20:08:20] Hawkeye : dunno not to me to judge, his point of view is pretty common. I think it will change over time but still most ppl cringe thinking they might have to pay for someone else (not seeing they pay for you too)
[2017-03-04 20:08:43] Hawkeye : same with climate change, some ppl have to drown or be blown away before they believe
[2017-03-04 20:08:45] MikeHunt : theft is and always will be wrong
[2017-03-04 20:08:50] BTCDJS : KyllingLolsson: im drunk and I've had hardly ant sleep for days. You're right. ZEN is required cos usually id have patience and understanding.
[2017-03-04 20:08:53] MikeHunt : any system that leeches off of others is doomed to die
[2017-03-04 20:09:07] MikeHunt : BTCDJS: were u drunk earlier?
[2017-03-04 20:09:07] Hawkeye : MikeHunt: you start life leeching off another
[2017-03-04 20:09:08] KyllingLolsson : BTCDJS: anger reveals ur ego
[2017-03-04 20:09:13] Hawkeye : its nature
[2017-03-04 20:09:21] BTCDJS : KyllingLolsson: yes I know
[2017-03-04 20:09:31] MikeHunt : Hawkeye: parents choose to have offspring and the consequences that come with it
[2017-03-04 20:09:34] KyllingLolsson : BTCDJS: <3
[2017-03-04 20:09:43] Hawkeye : stop calling it leeching and calll it happy to be able to do well and contribute to your ability
[2017-03-04 20:09:56] Hawkeye : MikeHunt: hell no, i was a "have to" ;)
[2017-03-04 20:10:07] BTCDJS : KyllingLolsson: ♥️
[2017-03-04 20:10:09] Hawkeye : ppl are horny idiots
[2017-03-04 20:10:10] jolin : any etf gossips?
[2017-03-04 20:10:29] MikeHunt : Hawkeye: ever seen the film Hot Fuzz? you remind me of the village folk
[2017-03-04 20:10:39] Hawkeye : nope havent seen it
[2017-03-04 20:10:40] MikeHunt : Hawkeye: smiling while holding daggers behind their backs
[2017-03-04 20:10:54] Hawkeye : dont worry not carrying anything sharp :)
[2017-03-04 20:11:02] jolin : silent week and its approved by default
[2017-03-04 20:11:03] Dynamix : 1220 is not far ;)
[2017-03-04 20:11:20] jolin : so coin 100 and btc 2000
[2017-03-04 20:11:27] jolin : wow
[2017-03-04 20:11:35] MikeHunt : Hawkeye: just remember ur ideology has got millions of people killed over the years
[2017-03-04 20:11:48] KyllingLolsson : MikeHunt: u cant say like that,
[2017-03-04 20:11:59] MikeHunt : KyllingLolsson: oh yes i can....
[2017-03-04 20:12:11] KyllingLolsson : MikeHunt: technically yes, but not intellectually
[2017-03-04 20:12:14] Hawkeye : MikeHunt: i thinkk you re mistaken. 1) no one performed it yet 2) the communists you refer to went down due to corruption not the ideology
[2017-03-04 20:12:31] Hawkeye : same as capitalism will go down due to corruption , time given
[2017-03-04 20:12:44] MikeHunt : KyllingLolsson: merely only have to look at the stats of various genocides by lefties
[2017-03-04 20:12:56] MikeHunt : Hawkeye: the ideology is corrupt
[2017-03-04 20:13:10] KyllingLolsson : MikeHunt: nah,,,, Dictators kill people... not ideology, generally
[2017-03-04 20:13:29] MikeHunt : KyllingLolsson: dictators have an ideology
[2017-03-04 20:13:32] MikeHunt : that they know best
[2017-03-04 20:13:32] Hawkeye : how many deaths are due to capitalism ?
[2017-03-04 20:13:41] MikeHunt : Hawkeye: i dunno u tell me
[2017-03-04 20:13:43] Hawkeye : or corruption in it
[2017-03-04 20:13:50] rangle : good, we got decent dump :)
[2017-03-04 20:14:05] KyllingLolsson : MikeHunt: yes they have... but ideologies doesnt have to have dictators
[2017-03-04 20:14:07] Hawkeye : MikeHunt: millions and millions
[2017-03-04 20:14:12] MikeHunt : Hawkeye: source?
[2017-03-04 20:14:26] Hawkeye : look at colonial wars
[2017-03-04 20:14:33] rangle : /rekt
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[2017-03-04 20:14:36] KyllingLolsson : MikeHunt: ideologies can be democratic and peaceful
[2017-03-04 20:14:39] Hawkeye : that will get you in the millions and thats a long time ago, plenty since
[2017-03-04 20:14:43] MikeHunt : Hawkeye: done by left wing governments?
[2017-03-04 20:14:47] Hawkeye : LOL
[2017-03-04 20:14:50] MikeHunt : KyllingLolsson: 2 wolves and a sheep is never peaceful
[2017-03-04 20:15:03] Hawkeye : ofc and only the republicans are good they dont do wars etc ;)
[2017-03-04 20:15:08] MikeHunt : Hawkeye: perhaps u forget that colonialism was a result of liberal empiracism
[2017-03-04 20:15:10] KyllingLolsson : MikeHunt: but 2 sheep and 0 wolf is peaceful
[2017-03-04 20:15:17] MikeHunt : Hawkeye: republicans are lefties
[2017-03-04 20:15:19] KyllingLolsson : MikeHunt: lock up the wolf
[2017-03-04 20:15:25] troll5000 : State and government is the number one cause of unnatural death in the last 100 years
[2017-03-04 20:15:33] Hawkeye : ah you are even more fanatic....
[2017-03-04 20:15:40] troll5000 : Statism is a death cult
[2017-03-04 20:15:46] MikeHunt : troll5000: +1
[2017-03-04 20:16:44] BTCDJS : you're all so stupid. debating concepts handed down to you. Just imagine the kind of world you want. I bet its similar
[2017-03-04 20:17:08] MikeHunt : BTCDJS: yet the concepts you profess are hardly different
[2017-03-04 20:17:28] Hawkeye : BTCDJS: i would love to do my job, not need to charge ppl and just get shit done as efficiently as possible so everyone gets to enjoy life as much as possible
[2017-03-04 20:17:35] BTCDJS : MikeHunt: you're ignorant and dumb
[2017-03-04 20:17:41] MikeHunt : Hawkeye: wisful thinking
[2017-03-04 20:17:47] Hawkeye : as self emplyed person i can luckily decide when to charge and when not
[2017-03-04 20:17:59] Hawkeye : wont ever be rich i think but i will be happy and satisfied
[2017-03-04 20:18:01] MikeHunt : BTCDJS: ?
[2017-03-04 20:18:14] BTCDJS : MikeHunt: ƒuck off
[2017-03-04 20:18:22] Hawkeye : MikeHunt: living it myself, as example to others and their choice to follow or now :)
[2017-03-04 20:18:23] Hawkeye : not
[2017-03-04 20:18:29] troll5000 : That intimidates parents into separating them from their kids for 8 hours a day to brainwash them into believing political idealologies at an age too young to make any real choice in their politics
[2017-03-04 20:18:39] KyllingLolsson : BTCDJS: @MikeHunt lots of ego here
[2017-03-04 20:18:43] KyllingLolsson : calm ur ego
[2017-03-04 20:18:52] BTCDJS : troll5000: +1
[2017-03-04 20:19:13] BTCDJS : KyllingLolsson: I know but he is stupid
[2017-03-04 20:19:21] KyllingLolsson : BTCDJS: yes he is
[2017-03-04 20:19:25] KyllingLolsson : and hateful
[2017-03-04 20:19:27] BTCDJS : lol