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[2017-03-03 14:27:40] GTmann : why did i just tilt my head...
[2017-03-03 14:27:44] arbitrage101 : has always been in 4 dollar range every time i look
[2017-03-03 14:28:16] .. : lets just agree, they all suck, only bitcoin has real value #bitcoinmaximalistftw
[2017-03-03 14:28:51] sleger : "arbitrage101: has always been in 4 dollar range every time i look" <= lol, its price is 4$, 4$ lower its worth nothing
[2017-03-03 14:28:53] arbitrage101 : ms, jpm and ibm are dinosaur
[2017-03-03 14:29:24] rapidtrades : sleger: so u agree its shit
[2017-03-03 14:29:30] sleger : ltc yes
[2017-03-03 14:29:41] GTmann : true but they got big dino dicks @arbitrage101
[2017-03-03 14:29:46] arbitrage101 : shit can be used as fertilizer
[2017-03-03 14:30:07] rapidtrades : bitcoin literally worse then shit
[2017-03-03 14:30:15] sleger : feel free to play with shit then @arbitrage101
[2017-03-03 14:30:22] arbitrage101 : made so many gamblers lose their home
[2017-03-03 14:30:40] sleger : " rapidtrades: bitcoin literally worse then shit" and yet you'd buy that shit at 800$ a pop
[2017-03-03 14:30:48] .. : only 1 of those "then" usages was correct
[2017-03-03 14:30:56] aethlios : 60kk usd each day get in ltc in order price to be stable, marketcap goes up, whales accumulate cheap from miners, keeping volatility dead so traders think is dead.
[2017-03-03 14:31:25] arbitrage101 : look at the bright side
[2017-03-03 14:31:30] arbitrage101 : cant go much lower
[2017-03-03 14:31:31] sleger : price is not stable though, look at the graph
[2017-03-03 14:31:56] fulrik : sleger: @rapidtrades now now kids.. It's friday and we should all be happy. Especially since eth is making us rich
[2017-03-03 14:32:12] aethlios : ltcusd is stable around 4 almost 1 year now.
[2017-03-03 14:32:15] sleger : i dont think rapid has eth
[2017-03-03 14:32:18] elmorte : fulrik: good luck, they been fighting longer than the middle east
[2017-03-03 14:32:31] sleger : elmorte: not true
[2017-03-03 14:32:47] sleger : only when he is wrong
[2017-03-03 14:32:48] rapidtrades : eth = spamcoin
[2017-03-03 14:32:58] arbitrage101 : haven't eat all day and still not hungry
[2017-03-03 14:33:01] arbitrage101 : is this normal
[2017-03-03 14:33:09] rapidtrades : yes
[2017-03-03 14:33:09] elmorte : arbitrage101: yeah on cocaine
[2017-03-03 14:33:09] fulrik : elmorte: haha if this continues into the weekend we will have to show them some democracy..!
[2017-03-03 14:33:18] rapidtrades : i don't eat at all
[2017-03-03 14:33:25] fulrik : arbitrage101: how much you down son?
[2017-03-03 14:33:29] elmorte : rapidtrades: eat your shorts
[2017-03-03 14:33:29] sleger : no more $ ? @rapidtrades
[2017-03-03 14:33:33] arbitrage101 : fulrik: down what
[2017-03-03 14:33:36] arbitrage101 : i am flat
[2017-03-03 14:33:41] sleger : can we contribute and buy you pasta ?
[2017-03-03 14:33:57] arbitrage101 : sleger: can buy me steak
[2017-03-03 14:34:01] elmorte : I'll chip in for cat food
[2017-03-03 14:34:06] arbitrage101 : cost less than 20 usd lol
[2017-03-03 14:34:09] sleger : arbitrage101: why would I
[2017-03-03 14:34:13] elmorte : 22.6 with fees
[2017-03-03 14:34:45] elmorte : arbitrage101: you should try Prime. Those ones can go for $150
[2017-03-03 14:34:58] elmorte : at Meridien @ Sentral
[2017-03-03 14:35:06] GTmann : when we talk marketcap with btc, should we not be subtracting all the burned/known lost coins?
[2017-03-03 14:35:13] arbitrage101 : i am not paying premium for environment lol
[2017-03-03 14:35:22] elmorte : GTmann: yes, but we can't know how many are lost
[2017-03-03 14:35:43] sleger : just order it well done with lots of kaschup, like the donald
[2017-03-03 14:35:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `DASH7D`: buy 202 @ 0.034066
[2017-03-03 14:36:05] GTmann : elmorte: well last least the known gone, like bitcoineater, counterpary burn
[2017-03-03 14:36:10] arbitrage101 : dash finallly killed the bull?
[2017-03-03 14:36:14] cryptoyolo : im not a big fan of eating
[2017-03-03 14:36:15] arbitrage101 : was a lot a higher yesterday
[2017-03-03 14:36:18] cryptoyolo : my energy comes from beer
[2017-03-03 14:36:25] CutTheLosses : LoL
[2017-03-03 14:36:26] GTmann : maybe its a trivial point anyways
[2017-03-03 14:36:53] CutTheLosses : cryptoyolo: do you trade on beer?
[2017-03-03 14:38:29] itsme : /price
[2017-03-03 14:38:30] Puffle-Razor-Spark : Aaaaaaand Im back
[2017-03-03 14:38:34] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1273.06 (0.49%) Bitfinex : 1279.90 (0.61%) The Woodchipper : 1284.36 (0.72%) itBit : 1277.28 (0.67%) Kraken : 1272.27 (1.24%) GDAX : 1282.99 (0.86%) SLQ : 53 mins```
[2017-03-03 14:38:42] Puffle-Razor-Spark : what a nice profitable short that was
[2017-03-03 14:38:50] n00b : get ready for crash
[2017-03-03 14:39:02] CutTheLosses : crash is over
[2017-03-03 14:39:15] CutTheLosses : lil pump now
[2017-03-03 14:39:30] CutTheLosses : maybe testing 1300 in some hours
[2017-03-03 14:40:46] elmorte : arbitrage101: yeah, Dash collapsed prior to settlement
[2017-03-03 14:41:31] laisee : /rekt
[2017-03-03 14:41:32] trollbot : ``` 1 hour, ago: Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 120000 @ 1273.68 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:```
[2017-03-03 14:41:32] trollbot : ``` 1 hour, ago: Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 125000 @ 1274.31 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:```
[2017-03-03 14:41:32] trollbot : ``` 1 hour, 1 min, ago: Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 115318 @ 1299.03 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:```
[2017-03-03 14:41:32] trollbot : ``` 1 hour, 1 min, ago: Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 77300 @ 1276.62 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:```
[2017-03-03 14:42:08] elmorte : all those longs getting rekt just to get better entry...tsk tsk
[2017-03-03 14:42:31] cryptoyolo : @CutTheLosses: i dont get drunk
[2017-03-03 14:42:43] CutTheLosses : cryptoyolo: yolo u know
[2017-03-03 14:43:02] rustiv : https://twitter.com/CryptoHustle/status/837672834096824320
[2017-03-03 14:45:32] CutTheLosses : here we go again
[2017-03-03 14:46:51] par1991 : CutTheLosses: how to earn
[2017-03-03 14:47:15] CutTheLosses : cutting your losses and taking profits
[2017-03-03 14:47:31] CutTheLosses : and of course risk management. yolo is dangerous
[2017-03-03 14:47:55] CutTheLosses : especially when drunk
[2017-03-03 14:48:05] CutTheLosses : short in a bull trend as well LoL
[2017-03-03 14:48:50] cryptoyolo : whos short here besides rapid?
[2017-03-03 14:49:36] elmorte : Looks like he's financing the whole party...
[2017-03-03 14:49:48] arbitrage101 : lots of people short
[2017-03-03 14:49:59] arbitrage101 : rapid thought i am long
[2017-03-03 14:50:03] arbitrage101 : couldn't be mroe wrong
[2017-03-03 14:50:17] Puffle-Razor-Spark : My God, who doesn't make money here? Go long when it's going up, go short when it crashes a bit. Then buy the dip. [Trading tips brought to you by Puffle]
[2017-03-03 14:50:17] -_- : Short before etf decision otherwise good luck getting a short in from this high
[2017-03-03 14:50:21] Puffle-Razor-Spark : (tm)
[2017-03-03 14:51:30] rustiv : bitflyer looks so ready again
[2017-03-03 14:52:07] itsyourboy : Puffle-Razor-Spark: inget scared of those flash crashes
[2017-03-03 14:52:48] CutTheLosses : rustiv: price?
[2017-03-03 14:53:11] Puffle-Razor-Spark : itsyourboy: but after such a flash-crash all the doubters are gone in a wave of rekts and we can go higher
[2017-03-03 14:53:22] Puffle-Razor-Spark : /rekt
[2017-03-03 14:53:23] trollbot : ``` 1 hour, 11 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 120000 @ 1273.68 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:```
[2017-03-03 14:53:23] trollbot : ``` 1 hour, 13 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 115318 @ 1299.03 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:```
[2017-03-03 14:53:23] trollbot : ``` 1 hour, 11 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 125000 @ 1274.31 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:```
[2017-03-03 14:53:52] Puffle-Razor-Spark : and of course all the 100x longed idiots
[2017-03-03 14:53:54] itsyourboy : Oh I agree, but I worry about opening a position, there being a flash crash and it going into downtrend
[2017-03-03 14:54:04] Puffle-Razor-Spark : just go 50x, thats enough for profit
[2017-03-03 14:54:31] CutTheLosses : YOLO 50x
[2017-03-03 14:54:45] .. : seems like trollbot could say those rekt messages a bit more compact?
[2017-03-03 14:54:53] CutTheLosses : yup
[2017-03-03 14:54:55] Puffle-Razor-Spark : itsyourboy: but you have to fight your emotion - an emotion the majority of the other traders have as well and therefore the basis to make profits going in the other direction
[2017-03-03 14:55:11] aethlios : pumpers will make miners rich with those fees, miners will keep 1mb for ever and milk the cow.
[2017-03-03 14:55:50] rustiv : CutTheLosses: https://cryptowatch.de/bitflyer/btcjpy/5m
[2017-03-03 14:55:53] itsyourboy : Puffle-Razor-Spark: when would you sit it out though before knowing if it's a reversal or not?
[2017-03-03 14:56:40] Puffle-Razor-Spark : itsyourboy: there is no reversal until all the fcking chat shouts 'to the moon'
[2017-03-03 14:57:00] Puffle-Razor-Spark : thats when you short big
[2017-03-03 14:57:30] Puffle-Razor-Spark : until then its up up up dip up up up up dip up up up ...
[2017-03-03 14:57:41] mtourig3 : to the moon
[2017-03-03 14:57:53] Puffle-Razor-Spark : mtourig3: are you all the fcking chat?
[2017-03-03 14:58:12] mtourig3 : ye
[2017-03-03 14:58:29] Puffle-Razor-Spark : itsyourboy: until then you only have to have enough margin to survive the volatility
[2017-03-03 14:58:52] itsyourboy : Ok so right now, on 15 min chart it's been steadily dropping with three peaks all lower than the last, does that not suggest heading down
[2017-03-03 14:59:07] .. : yes
[2017-03-03 14:59:17] Puffle-Razor-Spark : itsyourboy: no, it's "designed" to make you feel that way
[2017-03-03 14:59:25] petertheil : Puffle-Razor-Spark: +1
[2017-03-03 15:00:37] itsyourboy : I suppose when I zoom out on 30min chart we have three peaks upward
[2017-03-03 15:00:51] Puffle-Razor-Spark : I used to care about technicals, I lost some pretty coin. I don't care about technicals, I made some pretty coin. Capito?
[2017-03-03 15:01:59] itsyourboy : Puffle-Razor-Spark: aha so donyiu just trade on news more than technical then
[2017-03-03 15:02:01] hmmmYea : can we just all agree technical analysis is dumb af? and is only promoted in order to sell people trading education programs?
[2017-03-03 15:02:33] cryptobull : hmmmYea: lol
[2017-03-03 15:02:39] Puffle-Razor-Spark : itsyourboy: I trade even less on news than technicals. dont listen to the news at all
[2017-03-03 15:02:46] Puffle-Razor-Spark : hmmmYea: +1
[2017-03-03 15:02:53] petertheil : hmmmYea: fibs work, the rest is always a coin toss
[2017-03-03 15:03:14] itsyourboy : So how do you determine when to get in and out then, there must be some reasoning
[2017-03-03 15:03:22] wurstgelee : magic#
[2017-03-03 15:03:31] cryptobull : TA is a tool along with many others
[2017-03-03 15:03:32] Puffle-Razor-Spark : The only things that are true and tried: Trend, Volume, Trollbox
[2017-03-03 15:03:44] petertheil : itsyourboy: get in when its cheap...but remember its all relative on your timeframe
[2017-03-03 15:03:47] Puffle-Razor-Spark : The rest is distraction
[2017-03-03 15:03:56] hmmmYea : itsyourboy: obviously. but i dont draw pictures on pictures to figure it out
[2017-03-03 15:04:20] itsyourboy : petertheil: ok that makese sens
[2017-03-03 15:05:15] itsyourboy : Puffle-Razor-Spark: @hmmmYea cheers guys, thanks for the pointers
[2017-03-03 15:05:31] Puffle-Razor-Spark : itsyourboy: good luck \
[2017-03-03 15:05:32] wingman : cryptobull: there's no need for TA on gambling website with low liquidity like this one
[2017-03-03 15:05:34] wingman : :D
[2017-03-03 15:06:10] petertheil : wingman: u guys been autoliquidated yet? thats wierd
[2017-03-03 15:06:26] petertheil : or auto deleveraged?
[2017-03-03 15:06:27] wingman : lol
[2017-03-03 15:06:38] -_- : I've been adl
[2017-03-03 15:06:42] cryptobull : wingman: You're playing a bigger mareket than the liquidity here. But let's just agree to disagree
[2017-03-03 15:07:29] hmmmYea : the point of trading is to figure out what customers are doing, and when they are doing it, so you can warehouse risk when there is an imbalance bt the market price and the consensus of customers
[2017-03-03 15:07:42] Apocalyptic : USDCNH testing 6.905
[2017-03-03 15:07:57] hmmmYea : i'd say speculation as trading is more along the lines of that + speculating on the future changes in the consensus of customers
[2017-03-03 15:08:23] petertheil : itsyourboy: buy from pessimists, sell to optimists..bottom line
[2017-03-03 15:09:04] hmmmYea : the rest is nonsense to sell you stuff. if TA can help you answer either question, maybe. but in my personal opinion that its a very inefficient way to determine the answers to those questions
[2017-03-03 15:09:32] sleger : ^ why is he telling us about his life ?
[2017-03-03 15:09:33] Puffle-Razor-Spark : itsyourboy: here is a trade for you: go long and cover with margin down to 1150. If it goes to 1220 you stop loss 1/3 of position but still keep the rest. Then you dont touch position until 1550, thats where you sell.
[2017-03-03 15:09:36] sleger : did anyone ask ?
[2017-03-03 15:10:07] arbitrage101 : sharing is caring?
[2017-03-03 15:10:21] hmmmYea : sleger: remember that time you got your basis math wrong, and thought everyone else didnt know what interest rates were?
[2017-03-03 15:10:27] hmmmYea : that was great
[2017-03-03 15:10:36] sleger : hmmmYea: dont change the truth, i got no math wrong
[2017-03-03 15:10:46] sleger : i only said there was no problem for having a discount on dash
[2017-03-03 15:10:50] hmmmYea : sleger: 2 * 2 doesnt equal 15, my friend
[2017-03-03 15:11:06] sleger : you showed up 2 days ago, learn to be humble like me
[2017-03-03 15:11:14] hmmmYea : no, you 15% discount wasnt weird
[2017-03-03 15:11:24] sleger : find where i said 15%
[2017-03-03 15:11:35] sleger : i said discount, of course 15% is stupid
[2017-03-03 15:12:03] petertheil : Puffle-Razor-Spark: it not going to 1220 btw
[2017-03-03 15:12:13] wingman : i see rekt people
[2017-03-03 15:13:01] wingman : when i look in the mirror, what should i do doctor?
[2017-03-03 15:13:07] wingman : lol
[2017-03-03 15:13:23] Puffle-Razor-Spark : petertheil: It's a good starter trade. relatively safe.
[2017-03-03 15:13:49] hmmmYea : sleger: check the tape
[2017-03-03 15:13:55] sleger : hmmmYea: checked
[2017-03-03 15:13:58] sleger : you wrong
[2017-03-03 15:14:03] sleger : you MIKE
[2017-03-03 15:15:09] hmmmYea : sleger: check again. hint: check the original question
[2017-03-03 15:15:33] sleger : you think i read what every dummy like you writes ?
[2017-03-03 15:16:02] hmmmYea : sleger: you dont read questions before you answer them? are you being serious?
[2017-03-03 15:16:10] sleger : correct
[2017-03-03 15:16:28] sleger : can you go be annoying somewhere else now ?
[2017-03-03 15:16:33] Puffle-Razor-Spark : sleger: so you read what @hmmmYea asked?
[2017-03-03 15:16:42] sleger : Puffle-Razor-Spark: who ?
[2017-03-03 15:16:44] hmmmYea : sleger: thats your defense? you didnt make a math mistake, bc you didn read the question before you answered?
[2017-03-03 15:17:31] sleger : maybe i actually thought 2+2=15, I'd have to think about that one
[2017-03-03 15:17:52] Puffle-Razor-Spark : It's not panic when you are the first to liquidate your short and go long
[2017-03-03 15:19:32] elmorte : 2+2=22
[2017-03-03 15:19:46] shapeshifter : anyone from the mods team?
[2017-03-03 15:19:50] cryptoyolo : 2+2=420
[2017-03-03 15:20:25] sleger : 22=15 also ?
[2017-03-03 15:21:07] Shaman : sleger: thats absurd
[2017-03-03 15:21:21] sleger : why ?
[2017-03-03 15:21:26] Shaman : at least the other equations are true in fields of characteristic 2
[2017-03-03 15:21:50] itsyourboy : Puffle-Razor-Spark: hi sorry I couldn't follow what you meant by that trade example
[2017-03-03 15:21:56] Shaman : but your equation implies there is only 1 number 1=0
[2017-03-03 15:22:18] itsyourboy : I'm long from 1322 on futures
[2017-03-03 15:22:26] itsyourboy : Puffle-Razor-Spark:
[2017-03-03 15:22:27] sleger : you mean 1315 ?
[2017-03-03 15:22:30] sleger : same thing anyways
[2017-03-03 15:22:34] sleger : since 15=22
[2017-03-03 15:23:34] Puffle-Razor-Spark : itsyourboy: ok good - just remember to have enough margin for 5% spikes down. Otherwise sell some and reduce leverage
[2017-03-03 15:24:57] itsyourboy : I'm 25x
[2017-03-03 15:25:10] elmorte : well fck
[2017-03-03 15:25:21] Shaman : It would be cool if we could set an expiration date on our orders. (If order does not trigger within x hours, automatically cancel)
[2017-03-03 15:25:48] itsyourboy : Puffle-Razor-Spark: I thought about take profit at 1340
[2017-03-03 15:26:18] itsyourboy : but at what point would you say sod this I'm closing my position
[2017-03-03 15:26:32] Apocalyptic : Shaman: you can,via the API
[2017-03-03 15:26:34] itsyourboy : really appreciate the pointers
[2017-03-03 15:26:44] Puffle-Razor-Spark : itsyourboy: If you want my opinion, young traders have to learn to trade less. cash the futures and go swaps with lots of margin. let it ride above 1500.
[2017-03-03 15:27:00] Shaman : Apocalyptic: we can set it built into the order itself?
[2017-03-03 15:27:12] Apocalyptic : Shaman: also, are you a mathematician?
[2017-03-03 15:27:41] itsyourboy : Puffle-Razor-Spark: thanks so that says you definitely think this tends is continuing and we'll see 1500 before an etf decision then
[2017-03-03 15:27:46] Shaman : Apocalyptic: math phd student
[2017-03-03 15:27:55] Apocalyptic : Shaman: no idea, I was thinking about the cancelAllAfter call or something
[2017-03-03 15:28:08] Apocalyptic : Shaman: cool, what field ?
[2017-03-03 15:28:09] Puffle-Razor-Spark : itsyourboy: i think this trend continues and is only marginally affected by ETF
[2017-03-03 15:28:23] itsyourboy : Puffle-Razor-Spark: even in the event of a denial?
[2017-03-03 15:28:29] Shaman : Apocalyptic: algebraic geometry and number theory
[2017-03-03 15:28:53] Puffle-Razor-Spark : itsyourboy: yes, small dip, then all the doubters see their dump goes nowhere - buying frenzy will kick in
[2017-03-03 15:29:47] Apocalyptic : this is getting even more interesting
[2017-03-03 15:29:57] Apocalyptic : what are you studying in number theory ?
[2017-03-03 15:30:00] itsyourboy : Puffle-Razor-Spark: and there I was holding out for a denial to make money in the dump
[2017-03-03 15:30:23] Puffle-Razor-Spark : itsyourboy: the thing is, the FUD will be strong in chat and reddit to get you to sell, but you and I are smarter than that and just hold trough
[2017-03-03 15:30:27] Puffle-Razor-Spark : *through
[2017-03-03 15:31:01] Puffle-Razor-Spark : itsyourboy: nobody makes money selling for the ETF, I can guarantee you that much
[2017-03-03 15:31:52] Puffle-Razor-Spark : thank me after ETF
[2017-03-03 15:31:57] Puffle-Razor-Spark : decision
[2017-03-03 15:32:29] Shaman : Apocalyptic: right now im working on something about lie algebra representations coming from lie algebras of algebraic groups
[2017-03-03 15:32:39] itsyourboy : Puffle-Razor-Spark: thank you.
[2017-03-03 15:32:53] itsyourboy : Puffle-Razor-Spark: last Q, when would you decide that its time to short
[2017-03-03 15:33:06] Shaman : Apocalyptic: are you a mathematician by any chance?
[2017-03-03 15:33:11] n00b : Puffle-Razor-Spark: why isnt selling and buying at a lower price far better
[2017-03-03 15:33:21] Apocalyptic : Shaman: I may be :)
[2017-03-03 15:33:40] Shaman : Apocalyptic: doing what? or studying what?
[2017-03-03 15:34:18] Puffle-Razor-Spark : itsyourboy: high volume on uptick (like 3x more than usual spike) and lots of bragging guys in chat
[2017-03-03 15:34:33] Puffle-Razor-Spark : since an hour
[2017-03-03 15:34:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: sell 425 @ 0.001108
[2017-03-03 15:35:04] itsyourboy : Puffle-Razor-Spark: aha ok
[2017-03-03 15:35:05] Puffle-Razor-Spark : n00b: it is better, but when you are sure when things stop to rise
[2017-03-03 15:35:42] Puffle-Razor-Spark : and stop to fall
[2017-03-03 15:36:31] n00b : Puffle-Razor-Spark: you cant go wrong as long as you buy at a price lower than you sold at
[2017-03-03 15:36:51] Apocalyptic : @Shaman believe it or not, number theory, stuff like L-functions
[2017-03-03 15:37:16] Shaman : Apocalyptic: ohh, nice :)
[2017-03-03 15:37:40] Shaman : Apocalyptic: more on the side of analytic number theory then or?
[2017-03-03 15:38:08] Puffle-Razor-Spark : n00b: yeah right, except when market moves against you fast
[2017-03-03 15:38:24] Apocalyptic : definitely more analytic yeah, although I enjoy the algebraic part of num. theory as well
[2017-03-03 15:38:52] Shaman : Apocalyptic: are you a professor? student
[2017-03-03 15:38:54] Shaman : ?
[2017-03-03 15:41:45] itsyourboy : Puffle-Razor-Spark: thanks again mate, good luck with your trades. Where you from?
[2017-03-03 15:42:37] Puffle-Razor-Spark : itsyourboy: Austria
[2017-03-03 15:42:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `DASH7D`: sell 202 @ 0.033716
[2017-03-03 15:42:53] Apocalyptic : Shaman: student
[2017-03-03 15:43:29] itsyourboy : Puffle-Razor-Spark: nice, you ski?
[2017-03-03 15:43:43] Shaman : Apocalyptic: well its certainly interesting to meet someone else studying number theory on here
[2017-03-03 15:44:07] Apocalyptic : Shaman: yeah, least likely place in the btc world :)
[2017-03-03 15:44:19] Puffle-Razor-Spark : itsyourboy: no, too much work
[2017-03-03 15:44:35] Puffle-Razor-Spark : itsyourboy: hey I gotta go, glhf
[2017-03-03 15:44:54] itsyourboy : Puffle-Razor-Spark: cheers, likewise
[2017-03-03 15:46:55] Shaman : Apocalyptic: maybe we can collaborate on a paper sometime, lol
[2017-03-03 15:48:17] Apocalyptic : Shaman: not on representation theory though, that's for sure
[2017-03-03 15:48:33] Shaman : hehe
[2017-03-03 15:49:16] Shaman : Apocalyptic: what kind of L functions do you study?
[2017-03-03 15:52:02] rustiv : finally some ETH blood
[2017-03-03 15:52:10] Apocalyptic : Shaman: nothing specific, ofc worked a bit with zeta but it's going to be the distribution of zeroes and behaviour inside the critical strio in general for L-functions
[2017-03-03 15:52:25] Apocalyptic : *critical strip
[2017-03-03 15:54:01] Shaman : I don't know, what if there was an L-function associated to algebraic groups that somehow classify representations? I'm just making that up and it seems unlikely but never know :D @Apocalyptic
[2017-03-03 15:54:25] odieoh : Take it outside math bitches!
[2017-03-03 15:54:46] Shaman : >.>
[2017-03-03 15:54:53] Shaman : <.<
[2017-03-03 15:55:13] Apocalyptic : odieoh: lol, the chat is dead anyway
[2017-03-03 15:55:35] Apocalyptic : now if only we could dump already
[2017-03-03 15:55:42] Shaman : i think we scared them away
[2017-03-03 15:55:48] odieoh : Yeah. .. I think we're all running on like 30 minutes of sleep for the last week. This is killing me
[2017-03-03 15:58:35] Shaman : Apocalyptic: So, you are going to solve the Riemann hypothesis?
[2017-03-03 15:59:19] BTCDJS : Lets have a moment of silence for ETH ?
[2017-03-03 15:59:55] sleger : that would deserve a Fields medal
[2017-03-03 16:00:07] sleger : BTCDJS: MIKE
[2017-03-03 16:00:16] sleger : lets have a moment of accumulation for eth
[2017-03-03 16:00:21] Shaman : ooh eth is finally getting cheaper
[2017-03-03 16:01:07] Apocalyptic : Shaman: heh, unlikely
[2017-03-03 16:01:22] newtrading : The ETH futures contract, can buy and sell it all the time'+? how does the friday close play into all this?
[2017-03-03 16:03:36] Shaman : Apocalyptic: i know but i couldn't resist
[2017-03-03 16:06:35] odieoh : @newtrading it expires on friday mornings, and a new contract begins. It will automatically close out at whatever the mark price is. You can then buy or sell shares of the new contract
[2017-03-03 16:07:44] sleger : if you were short earlier today you bought above 0.016 and had no chance to resell at the same price
[2017-03-03 16:08:10] sleger : sorry, settlement was 0.01597 exactly
[2017-03-03 16:08:10] newtrading : cheers, but say i buy in now could i sell my position tomorrow? or does there need to be someone wanting to get in ?
[2017-03-03 16:09:11] newtrading : and say i go long with max leverage, is there a possibility that the one who owns the opposite end of my contract gets broke before he can pay me all the profit that i could have gotten?
[2017-03-03 16:09:26] Apocalyptic : "or does there need to be someone wanting to get in " of course there is a cp for every trade
[2017-03-03 16:09:41] Apocalyptic : you can't make contracts vanish
[2017-03-03 16:10:07] Apocalyptic : the only exception is settlement
[2017-03-03 16:11:12] newtrading : can you recomend me a video or article that goes in depth on the ethereum contracts available here? i only find limited info and i want some in depth knowledge
[2017-03-03 16:11:16] sleger : newtrading: " is there a possibility that the one ...." yes although its not necessarily your exact trade counterparty, but someone who has the opposite position. Read the docs for ADL
[2017-03-03 16:11:58] sleger : newtrading: i would recommend against eth here, because its only 7days and you can get screwed around settlement. I switched my position to polo because of that
[2017-03-03 16:12:47] newtrading : in what ways could i get screwed?
[2017-03-03 16:13:07] sleger : i was short eth here, settlement closed my short at 0.016, price dropped before i could reopen
[2017-03-03 16:13:19] Apocalyptic : newtrading: click "References" and search for the contract spec
[2017-03-03 16:14:10] sleger : we asked for 30d fut for alts, or to have the new 7d listed 1d before expiry, but nothing has happened, everyone keeps complaining though
[2017-03-03 16:14:10] newtrading : kk thanks
[2017-03-03 16:14:23] zanza : im making lots of $$$ of SNAP
[2017-03-03 16:15:54] cryptoyolo : guys price same lvl and oscillator going down
[2017-03-03 16:15:58] cryptoyolo : divergence spotted
[2017-03-03 16:17:44] Apocalyptic : zanza: what's it trading at ?
[2017-03-03 16:18:25] Apocalyptic : wow I see, almost 29
[2017-03-03 16:19:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: buy 16 @ 0.014910
[2017-03-03 16:19:26] Apocalyptic : people really have nothing better to throw money into it seems
[2017-03-03 16:21:19] sleger : placed a sell at 29.98, IB trying to locate shares
[2017-03-03 16:23:20] gustavo7 : cryptoyolo: bearish div?
[2017-03-03 16:24:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: buy 50 @ 0.014970
[2017-03-03 16:29:10] charlyko : gustavo7: yes in 4h
[2017-03-03 16:31:09] cryptoyolo : gustavo7: hidden bullish. bearish would be if prices went up as well
[2017-03-03 16:32:53] cryptoyolo : it seems prices go up and then stall for a while
[2017-03-03 16:34:10] Apocalyptic : sleger: does your prop trading company use IB as well ?
[2017-03-03 16:34:21] sleger : Apocalyptic: no
[2017-03-03 16:35:00] tb : can't short sell until t+3
[2017-03-03 16:35:10] sleger : tb: yes can
[2017-03-03 16:35:22] sleger : whoever said that yesterday was wrong
[2017-03-03 16:35:37] tb : only if you're registered market maker for that stock
[2017-03-03 16:36:02] sleger : tb: "According to a representative from E*Trade, the firm expects to have Snap shares available to short immediately after the market open on Friday"
[2017-03-03 16:36:08] sleger : ETRADE, dummy
[2017-03-03 16:36:36] sleger : IB has it too, just hard to borrow, of course
[2017-03-03 16:37:12] sleger : why you making up stuff ?
[2017-03-03 16:42:14] tb : they're just saying that
[2017-03-03 16:42:35] tb : but in reality clearing won't have any shares available to borrow until t+3
[2017-03-03 16:42:43] tb : show me 1 guy who says they were able to short snap
[2017-03-03 16:43:22] sleger : right so etrade officials just plainly lied about something like that, makes sense, bitmex troll much more reliable
[2017-03-03 16:43:38] sleger : if the price reaches 30, i'll show you myself
[2017-03-03 16:44:41] tb : they didn't know
[2017-03-03 16:45:01] sleger : again "The quick answer to this question is that an IPO can be shorted upon initial trading" http://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/05/062905.asp
[2017-03-03 16:45:07] tb : "official" means some dumb schmuck who is paid 60k a year to know nothing about their business
[2017-03-03 16:45:35] tb : when retail investor buys a stock
[2017-03-03 16:45:40] sleger : also "In contrast, we find that short selling is prevalent on the initial trading day and many short sales occur close to the open." https://corpgov.law.harvard.edu/2010/05/03/short-selling-in-initial-public-offerings/
[2017-03-03 16:45:50] sleger : is that enough for you ?
[2017-03-03 16:46:04] tb : it doesnt clear into the brokerage firm's account until 3 days from the initial
[2017-03-03 16:46:48] tb : im not saying no one can short
[2017-03-03 16:46:56] tb : im saying retail customers cant until t+3
[2017-03-03 16:47:04] tb : if you're a registered market maker you can short
[2017-03-03 16:47:08] tb : as long as stock isn't ssr
[2017-03-03 16:48:35] gustavo7 : it doesnt make much sense to me
[2017-03-03 16:49:42] sleger : tb: my understanding is that if an IB customer buys SNAP, they can lend it to another customer who wants to short, even before settlement
[2017-03-03 17:07:34] carl : ADLing sucks :(
[2017-03-03 17:09:52] zanza : http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-03-03/snap-surges-above-40-billion-bigger-ebay-or-sony
[2017-03-03 17:09:59] zanza : SNAP bigger than sony and ebay
[2017-03-03 17:10:04] zanza : $$$
[2017-03-03 17:10:07] cryptoyolo : asks are thin right now on btc
[2017-03-03 17:10:10] CutTheLosses : roflmao
[2017-03-03 17:12:42] .. : okc q dumping below 1300
[2017-03-03 17:12:50] cryptoyolo : how long till next leg up btc?
[2017-03-03 17:13:12] CutTheLosses : waiting for your yolo 100x long
[2017-03-03 17:13:14] .. : moving slowww
[2017-03-03 17:13:26] cryptoyolo : :)
[2017-03-03 17:13:31] CutTheLosses : i buy the dip
[2017-03-03 17:13:32] CutTheLosses : do the same
[2017-03-03 17:13:35] sleger : nice trade 1300.46 120950
[2017-03-03 17:13:38] cryptoyolo : the last yolo long was really nice
[2017-03-03 17:13:40] sleger : (not me)
[2017-03-03 17:15:04] CutTheLosses : wake up buyers
[2017-03-03 17:15:08] CutTheLosses : some money to win
[2017-03-03 17:15:41] CutTheLosses : united we are stronger 8---D
[2017-03-03 17:15:46] cryptoyolo : 1275 is holding strong-
[2017-03-03 17:19:39] cryptokeeper : we will see about that
[2017-03-03 17:22:41] cryptobull : 1220?
[2017-03-03 17:23:00] .. : so many cryptos here
[2017-03-03 17:23:04] cryptokeeper : lol you shouldnt of jynex it cryptoyolo
[2017-03-03 17:23:38] cryptoyolo : u short now bull?
[2017-03-03 17:24:05] cryptoscam : short the coin
[2017-03-03 17:24:24] cryptobull : cryptoyolo: maybe ;)
[2017-03-03 17:24:46] .. : we going down
[2017-03-03 17:25:09] cryptoyolo : XDxD
[2017-03-03 17:25:29] cryptoyolo : not honoring nickname tsc
[2017-03-03 17:25:30] Trebile : Hi! Is there an easy way to reset the chart, removing indicators?
[2017-03-03 17:26:11] n00b : SELL SELL SELL
[2017-03-03 17:26:26] .. : gonna test 1200
[2017-03-03 17:26:30] .. : panic
[2017-03-03 17:28:02] .. : buys are thin right now on btc
[2017-03-03 17:28:33] L9 : Hi, what is an iceberg order in simple words?
[2017-03-03 17:29:16] Bitcoin_N_Robin : you just see the tip
[2017-03-03 17:30:12] cryptoyolo : damnit
[2017-03-03 17:30:17] cryptoyolo : i refilled at 1280 xD
[2017-03-03 17:30:34] n00b : Trebile: clear cookies
[2017-03-03 17:30:35] L9 : Bitcoin_N_Robin: The tip is not informative, sorry
[2017-03-03 17:31:06] jayesh : cryptoyolo: long ?
[2017-03-03 17:31:07] .. : happening now
[2017-03-03 17:31:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 155190 @ 1268.67 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:
[2017-03-03 17:31:23] .. : there we go
[2017-03-03 17:31:28] Apocalyptic : in the famous words of rapid: "don't ADL me bro"
[2017-03-03 17:31:30] cryptoyolo : jayesh: yea sold at 1292 and longed again at 1280
[2017-03-03 17:31:40] jayesh : cryptoyolo: ohh
[2017-03-03 17:32:45] Tetsuo : P B ?
[2017-03-03 17:33:10] ross : How low will we go?
[2017-03-03 17:33:30] .. : bearstamp 1257
[2017-03-03 17:34:43] gustavo7 : good ol' bearstamp
[2017-03-03 17:35:32] cryptoyolo : it wont go below 1230
[2017-03-03 17:35:40] cryptoyolo : if it keeps dropping of course
[2017-03-03 17:36:20] carl : /price
[2017-03-03 17:36:24] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1259.00 (25.90%) Bitfinex : 1271.10 (27.11%) The Woodchipper : 1275.00 (27.50%) itBit : 1267.26 (26.73%) Kraken : 1256.00 (25.60%) GDAX : 1272.02 (27.20%) SLQ : ```
[2017-03-03 17:36:28] mtourig3 : buy the DIP
[2017-03-03 17:36:32] carl : Lol stamp
[2017-03-03 17:36:33] carl : wtf
[2017-03-03 17:37:14] ross : No bulls left wtf
[2017-03-03 17:37:26] ross : thought they'd attacks this dip
[2017-03-03 17:37:29] carl : plenty of bulls left wtf are you talking about
[2017-03-03 17:37:29] n00b : the bears are too strong i feel sorry for anyone buying right now
[2017-03-03 17:37:38] carl : lol
[2017-03-03 17:37:42] RoftheN : I'm still in negative :/
[2017-03-03 17:37:49] BTCDJS : buy the dip! 8if you're brave enough*
[2017-03-03 17:37:49] RoftheN : Atleast I didn't get liquidated
[2017-03-03 17:37:55] cryptokeeper : n00b: they will learn
[2017-03-03 17:38:00] cryptokeeper : BUY ZE DIP BUY ZE BIP
[2017-03-03 17:38:24] cryptoyolo : im not touching this right now
[2017-03-03 17:38:29] cryptokeeper : smart move
[2017-03-03 17:38:47] cryptoyolo : got out that long with a small loss and thats fine
[2017-03-03 17:39:09] ross : Cheap coins in march
[2017-03-03 17:39:12] carl : /price
[2017-03-03 17:39:16] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1261.71 (0.22%) Bitfinex : 1272.50 (0.11%) The Woodchipper : 1276.30 (0.10%) itBit : 1267.00 (-0.02%) Kraken : 1255.00 (-0.08%) GDAX : 1272.07 (0.00%) SLQ : 2 mins```
[2017-03-03 17:39:25] Yuppie : Good 'ol Bearstamp days ?
[2017-03-03 17:39:29] BTCDJS : its going to go back up. *believe me*
[2017-03-03 17:39:37] Apocalyptic : ross: you'rejoking ?
[2017-03-03 17:39:45] carl : cheap is relative
[2017-03-03 17:39:47] carl : I suppose
[2017-03-03 17:39:51] Apocalyptic : still over $30 premium
[2017-03-03 17:40:01] Rado : BTCDJS: I trust no one
[2017-03-03 17:40:03] .. : hodling my 1291 short till 1200 or 1300
[2017-03-03 17:40:04] carl : I'd pay 1300 for coins that will be worth 5000 at year's end
[2017-03-03 17:40:13] cryptokeeper : what a fun day
[2017-03-03 17:40:21] cryptokeeper : weeeeeeee
[2017-03-03 17:40:36] BTCDJS : Rado: you just call me no1? thanks bud :)
[2017-03-03 17:40:47] Rado : carl: you must hate money
[2017-03-03 17:40:48] Yuppie : https://exchangewar.info
[2017-03-03 17:40:56] Rado : BTCDJS: lol
[2017-03-03 17:41:05] Yuppie : Well Stamp is at place 13
[2017-03-03 17:41:14] cryptoyolo : ..: i woudl get out of it and watch... this shit is crazy
[2017-03-03 17:42:00] carl : Rado: yeah, that's stupid, why would I buy something with the belief that it will appreciate in value?
[2017-03-03 17:42:55] Rado : carl: you said you will buy it at 1300 even if it's 500 at the end of the year
[2017-03-03 17:43:00] BTCDJS : id rather wait till its cheaper
[2017-03-03 17:43:18] carl : Rado: 5000 bud
[2017-03-03 17:43:20] rapidtrades : i'd rather wait till its dead
[2017-03-03 17:43:22] cryptokeeper : BTCDJS: smart move.
[2017-03-03 17:43:31] Rado : rapidtrades: hey
[2017-03-03 17:43:36] cryptokeeper : weekend is here too
[2017-03-03 17:43:36] Rado : still alive
[2017-03-03 17:43:47] rapidtrades : ofc
[2017-03-03 17:43:52] Rado : good
[2017-03-03 17:43:56] carl : /price
[2017-03-03 17:44:02] BTCDJS : 1070 is coming. thats when ill buy
[2017-03-03 17:44:02] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1259.00 (-0.21%) Bitfinex : 1272.00 (-0.04%) The Woodchipper : 1275.00 (-0.10%) itBit : 1266.83 (-0.01%) Kraken : 1259.00 (0.32%) GDAX : 1272.01 (0.00%) SLQ : 4 mins```
[2017-03-03 17:44:39] .. : seems too low, 1080 will be proper support
[2017-03-03 17:44:56] Ahhere : what hapnd guise?
[2017-03-03 17:44:57] BTCDJS : within a few days we will see that
[2017-03-03 17:45:18] Rado : ..: to see 1080 you need either a big seller or some news
[2017-03-03 17:45:31] BTCDJS : ..: big crash will come. Me buy bottom. me get ADLed
[2017-03-03 17:45:56] BTCDJS : Rado: Big news will come. Big crash will come
[2017-03-03 17:46:02] BTCDJS : dont argue with me
[2017-03-03 17:46:12] BTCDJS : I know what Im doing
[2017-03-03 17:46:15] BTCDJS : believe me
[2017-03-03 17:46:19] rapidtrades : https://www.bloomberg.com/news/videos/2017-03-03/place-your-bet-on-whether-the-sec-approves-a-bitcoin-etf
[2017-03-03 17:46:23] Ahhere : BTCDJS: BELIEVE ME
[2017-03-03 17:46:26] carl : BTCDJS: we all get adl'ed in the end...
[2017-03-03 17:46:36] carl : that's just the circle of life
[2017-03-03 17:46:41] Ahhere : nobody knows what I'm doing like me BELIEVE ME! @BTCDJS
[2017-03-03 17:46:42] BTCDJS : BELIEVE ME
[2017-03-03 17:46:47] carl : when we lose, we lose hard, when we win...well, the system fuck sus
[2017-03-03 17:46:56] .. : it will be a huuuggeee move
[2017-03-03 17:47:01] mtourig3 : who listened and bought?
[2017-03-03 17:47:12] carl : i was told there would be a dump...?
[2017-03-03 17:47:13] CutTheLosses : who bought the dip became rich
[2017-03-03 17:47:18] gustavo7 : 5Y +25k%
[2017-03-03 17:47:41] gustavo7 : still crazy to think about
[2017-03-03 17:47:52] REKT : Liquidated short on `LTC7D`: buy 100 @ 0.003200
[2017-03-03 17:48:02] BTCDJS : 14xx will come. Then BOOM
[2017-03-03 17:48:03] BTCDJS : 1080
[2017-03-03 17:48:06] BTCDJS : 1070
[2017-03-03 17:48:16] carl : BOOM
[2017-03-03 17:48:16] carl : 14xx will come
[2017-03-03 17:48:16] carl : Then
[2017-03-03 17:48:27] carl : 10,0000,0000000000,000,00.99 coins
[2017-03-03 17:48:41] BTCDJS : Theres always one ^^
[2017-03-03 17:48:55] cryptoyolo : big crash is coming next week
[2017-03-03 17:48:56] carl : and satan will come back in the form of a tub of vegemite
[2017-03-03 17:49:01] carl : and we will all eat from his cranial cavity
[2017-03-03 17:49:06] carl : get your victuals
[2017-03-03 17:49:12] carl : get em now
[2017-03-03 17:50:36] CutTheLosses : pump
[2017-03-03 17:52:35] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: If price falls to 1070-80 And you close your short. Will you be in profit after all the fudding erm I mean funding?
[2017-03-03 17:52:51] rapidtrades : no
[2017-03-03 17:53:27] Ahhere : IZ BITCOIN DEAD
[2017-03-03 17:53:31] BTCDJS : So funding is useless
[2017-03-03 17:53:49] carl : rapidtrades: why you do this to yourself
[2017-03-03 17:53:58] Ahhere : die already dash
[2017-03-03 17:54:05] BTCDJS : carl: theres no need for this
[2017-03-03 17:54:13] rapidtrades : carl: f*ck off carl
[2017-03-03 17:54:20] Farzad : hey guys
[2017-03-03 17:54:26] carl : rapidtrades: there's my sweetie
[2017-03-03 17:54:48] carl : rapidtrades: are you into s&m? just out of curiositiy
[2017-03-03 17:54:53] BTCDJS : He took a position and he stuck with it. Unlike a lot of people. if he's wrong he's only wrong once
[2017-03-03 17:55:04] Ahhere : ^lol
[2017-03-03 17:55:06] Farzad : BTCDJS: who ? rapid ?
[2017-03-03 17:55:12] BTCDJS : yes
[2017-03-03 17:55:35] Farzad : cut your losses short, let your profits run
[2017-03-03 17:55:39] Rado : BTCDJS: we don't know for sure
[2017-03-03 17:55:39] Farzad : he is doing the opposite
[2017-03-03 17:55:42] Rado : if he has a position
[2017-03-03 17:55:46] Rado : or how big it is
[2017-03-03 17:55:50] Rado : he might be faking it
[2017-03-03 17:55:51] carl : I'm wrong all the time, for instance just yesterday I thought I could eat 2 plates of soup dumplings but I could only eat one
[2017-03-03 17:56:06] carl : Talk about a big mistake!!!
[2017-03-03 17:56:15] Farzad : /rekt