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<< >> English 中文 Русский 한국어 日本語 Español Français [2017-03-02 08:02:28] arbitrage101 : many traders like to trade and watch porn [2017-03-02 08:02:31] arbitrage101 : hand busy [2017-03-02 08:03:55] rangle : sure... [2017-03-02 08:04:35] REKT : Liquidated short on `DASH7D`: buy 1 @ 0.035876 [2017-03-02 08:13:44] BTCDJS : arbitrage101: have you tried listening to music instead. Something calm. Maybe soduku to keep the hand busy? [2017-03-02 08:15:47] arbitrage101 : any suggestion to make the little brother less hard on the brain ? [2017-03-02 08:16:00] arbitrage101 : taking all the blood [2017-03-02 08:19:10] BTCDJS : arbitrage101: take care of him in the shower. Leave the rest of the day for more productive tasks [2017-03-02 08:51:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTH17`: buy 8930 @ 1261.38 [2017-03-02 08:52:26] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTH17`: buy 17 @ 1265.10 [2017-03-02 08:53:17] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 1500 @ 1229.39 [2017-03-02 08:53:56] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 23000 @ 1229.67 [2017-03-02 09:03:15] cryptobull : Anyone from bitmex staff here? [2017-03-02 09:05:21] cryptobull : BitMEX_John: u here? [2017-03-02 09:06:25] -_- : damn REP pumping [2017-03-02 09:06:46] cryptonoob : when would be a good time to short Bitcoin again? [2017-03-02 09:06:51] cryptonoob : tough question lol [2017-03-02 09:06:51] -_- : up 15% [2017-03-02 09:07:44] InvalidUser : https://i.supload.com/rJFY3ItPx.jpg [2017-03-02 09:08:09] -_- : stamp $1 away from ATH [2017-03-02 09:10:11] rapidtrades : STOP [2017-03-02 09:13:30] longbydefault : /price [2017-03-02 09:13:40] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1228.47 (22.85%) Bitfinex : 1231.90 (23.19%) The Woodchipper : 1230.19 (23.02%) itBit : 1226.50 (22.65%) Kraken : 1228.88 (22.89%) GDAX : 1230.00 (23.00%) SLQ : ``` [2017-03-02 09:15:01] arbitrage101 : choo choo train [2017-03-02 09:15:06] arbitrage101 : btc to mooon [2017-03-02 09:16:51] vgck : rapidtrades: Are you trolling? Like is this all a joke and you've actually been long this entire time? [2017-03-02 09:17:29] arbitrage101 : think rapid will get rekt soon [2017-03-02 09:17:32] arbitrage101 : if not already [2017-03-02 09:19:05] miccheck12 : /joke [2017-03-02 09:19:07] trollbot : ``` I thought Friday was a sad day... Turns out the next day was a sadder day.``` [2017-03-02 09:19:35] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 3000 @ 1231.14 [2017-03-02 09:19:45] InvalidUser : BS [2017-03-02 09:21:57] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 285 @ 1233.50 [2017-03-02 09:22:06] -_- : buy the dip [2017-03-02 09:22:08] -_- : breaking happening [2017-03-02 09:22:23] arbitrage101 : sell the rally [2017-03-02 09:22:28] -_- : up $43 from a few hours ago lol [2017-03-02 09:22:30] arbitrage101 : going to change my motto [2017-03-02 09:22:36] arbitrage101 : sell the rally [2017-03-02 09:22:55] arbitrage101 : joining rapid to short [2017-03-02 09:23:05] arbitrage101 : a broken clock is right twice a day [2017-03-02 09:23:33] shiroe : wombo combo. BTC + Dash + Leverage = Triple win! [2017-03-02 09:23:52] -_- : i jumped in REP [2017-03-02 09:23:58] -_- : that order book is thinner than DASH [2017-03-02 09:24:14] -_- : i will lol if REP goes up 60% today [2017-03-02 09:24:37] -_- : up 30% now [2017-03-02 09:25:11] -_- : only thing that sucks is market maker doesnt quote a lot [2017-03-02 09:28:09] arbitrage101 : market maker role is take advantage of price inefficiemcy [2017-03-02 09:28:33] arbitrage101 : if you get filled, pretty sure you are being filled at bad price [2017-03-02 09:29:50] rapidtrades : there are so many ppl planning to buy the dip on etf refusal [2017-03-02 09:30:06] rapidtrades : trying to think how mr market will f*ck them [2017-03-02 09:31:11] Farzad : market maker is trading against you. if it wants to provide good quotes, it needs high volume to hedge its positions, otherwise it is a losing game for market maker. I tried it. trust me :D [2017-03-02 09:31:36] arbitrage101 : rapidtrades: you are shorting eth too? [2017-03-02 09:31:50] arbitrage101 : why do you go against the tide? [2017-03-02 09:32:15] rapidtrades : cos ilike to watch the world burn [2017-03-02 09:32:33] Farzad : rapidtrades: u will get REKT sooner or later [2017-03-02 09:32:42] rapidtrades : nope [2017-03-02 09:33:04] Farzad : dont predict the market, ride with trend [2017-03-02 09:33:09] Farzad : trading 101 [2017-03-02 09:33:21] -_- : ETF will have a Silkroad effect [2017-03-02 09:33:31] -_- : dump that gets bought up so quick that price keeps going up to $2000 [2017-03-02 09:34:11] rapidtrades : oh fosho [2017-03-02 09:34:25] Farzad : ETF approval will shoot the price to moon, refusal makes a short dump which will recover. mark my words. [2017-03-02 09:34:39] rapidtrades : bitcooin so cheap at 20 bil, has to go up [2017-03-02 09:35:15] rapidtrades : Farzad: ive marked ur words [2017-03-02 09:35:32] jayesh : yup.. [2017-03-02 09:35:44] jayesh : It wont drop so hard as many think on refusal.. [2017-03-02 09:36:05] arbitrage101 : if you are shorting eth or btc here, you wont capture the full drop even if it crash [2017-03-02 09:36:10] jayesh : But still Panic is more powerful. [2017-03-02 09:36:11] Farzad : but I hope they refuse it, I dont like big players. I like how BTC is community money. [2017-03-02 09:36:27] -_- : ETH and DASH look ready to break out again [2017-03-02 09:36:56] rapidtrades : only idiots would buy bitcoin or dash here [2017-03-02 09:37:18] vgck : rapidtrades: Does that make me an idiot? [2017-03-02 09:37:34] rapidtrades : yes it does [2017-03-02 09:38:06] Farzad : rapidtrades: well I dont know about DASH, but I bought several bitcoins yesterday. I mean by fiat. [2017-03-02 09:38:09] RoftheN : I'm an idiot too! [2017-03-02 09:38:26] Farzad : we are all idiots except rapid. lol [2017-03-02 09:38:30] rapidtrades : yes ur all idiots [2017-03-02 09:38:35] vgck : rapidtrades: So does that make you a genius for shorting the bottom? [2017-03-02 09:38:47] Farzad : how old r u rapid ? seriously ? [2017-03-02 09:38:47] vgck : Seems like the idiots are making more money... [2017-03-02 09:38:56] ayy_lmao : time to short more [2017-03-02 09:38:56] RoftheN : I want to know all your ages [2017-03-02 09:39:00] rapidtrades : Farzad: ask ur mother bish [2017-03-02 09:39:03] ayy_lmao : that will teach them! [2017-03-02 09:39:06] vgck : RoftheN: 53 [2017-03-02 09:39:10] RoftheN : Old people [2017-03-02 09:39:21] Farzad : rapidtrades: haha, OK. u r 12 [2017-03-02 09:39:23] RoftheN : You're almost as old as my dad [2017-03-02 09:39:35] rapidtrades : Farzad: 12 INCHES! [2017-03-02 09:39:38] RoftheN : My dad should trade here too [2017-03-02 09:39:45] vgck : rapidtrades: You're mother said you're tendies are ready [2017-03-02 09:39:48] Farzad : rapidtrades: 12 inches deep ? [2017-03-02 09:41:53] Farzad : BTC growth has been very healthy, it is not likely to fall that much [2017-03-02 09:42:21] Farzad : everyone will buy on a small dump [2017-03-02 09:42:27] Farzad : including myself [2017-03-02 09:42:59] Farzad : trading BTC 101 : buy now, if it falls buy more. manage your risk and leverage. profit. [2017-03-02 09:43:18] vgck : Farzad: What is your liquidation, are you using cross or isolated? [2017-03-02 09:43:39] Farzad : vgck: I am using cross. [2017-03-02 09:43:44] Farzad : max leverage 5x [2017-03-02 09:43:47] -_- : sucks that tomorrow is settlement. gotta play the alts smartly now [2017-03-02 09:44:11] rapidtrades : Farzad: great so u will be insta liquidateed on ETF [2017-03-02 09:44:14] Farzad : Liquidation always FAAAAAAR away [2017-03-02 09:44:15] Ahhere : -_-: whats your strategy? [2017-03-02 09:44:25] vgck : Farzad: Isn't it possible that BTC flash crashes low enough, REKTs you and takes your whole account with it? [2017-03-02 09:44:26] -_- : FOMO in. FOMO out [2017-03-02 09:44:34] rapidtrades : his strategy? being a bull in a bull market [2017-03-02 09:44:45] Ahhere : lol re settlement? @-_- [2017-03-02 09:44:51] -_- : ETH new high in a second [2017-03-02 09:45:05] Farzad : I will close all of my positions before ETF [2017-03-02 09:45:08] -_- : yeah fomo in and out with profit so you dont get stuck holding in a dump going into settlement [2017-03-02 09:45:17] rapidtrades : Farzad: good luck with that [2017-03-02 09:45:29] vgck : rapidtrades: Hey, works until it doesn't. As long as he isn't bagholding a long during a crash he'll come out a ahead [2017-03-02 09:45:31] Ahhere : eth and monero had a nice path blazed by dash. It makes 50 dollars seem totally doable for both [2017-03-02 09:45:44] vgck : Farzad: What if ETF decision is announced tomorrow? [2017-03-02 09:46:14] arbitrage101 : my ledger nano s arrived [2017-03-02 09:46:23] Ahhere : I almost never short. Currently short dash and it feels good [2017-03-02 09:46:27] micmix : Farzad: this strategy got everyone rekt by the end of 2014 [2017-03-02 09:46:28] Farzad : vgck: then I should hope for the best. lol [2017-03-02 09:47:07] micmix : I remember glorious MC to 160 on finex [2017-03-02 09:47:09] vgck : Farzad: Good luck, would kill me if I made a decent amount of money and one flash crash later I was staring at 0... [2017-03-02 09:47:47] Farzad : vgck: well, if your liq price is $500, I dont think ETF can make such a crash [2017-03-02 09:48:06] vgck : Farzad: Is it that far down? [2017-03-02 09:48:09] rapidtrades : maybe not on spot but we're 100/1 here [2017-03-02 09:48:16] Farzad : vgck: yes, it is [2017-03-02 09:48:30] vgck : rapidtrades: He said he was cross, 5x [2017-03-02 09:48:50] Farzad : vgck: max 5x [2017-03-02 09:48:54] Ahhere : Farzad: good luck chasing 500 stop hunters lol [2017-03-02 09:49:02] Farzad : now it is 1.10x [2017-03-02 09:50:04] -_- : ETH has a big wall to climb to 0.016 [2017-03-02 09:50:31] Farzad : micmix: I remember, but this time BTC's growth has been healthy [2017-03-02 09:50:34] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: buy 1050 @ 0.014360 [2017-03-02 09:51:01] Farzad : and BTC has become more mainstream as a commodity [2017-03-02 09:51:29] rapidtrades : lol commodity [2017-03-02 09:51:31] micmix : Farzad: I think so too but buying every dip on the way down is not a good strategy [2017-03-02 09:51:34] rapidtrades : the story changes [2017-03-02 09:51:58] rapidtrades : they already ceded that this will not be a currency [2017-03-02 09:52:16] rapidtrades : hint: just because its a shit currency, doesn't make it a commodity [2017-03-02 09:52:20] arbitrage101 : the commodity future price no longer track the price here in asia [2017-03-02 09:52:34] arbitrage101 : price distortion like bitcorn [2017-03-02 09:52:59] rapidtrades : a more realistic characterization is speculative asset [2017-03-02 09:53:01] Farzad : rapidtrades: BTC has failed as a currency, it is more like gold and hence commodity [2017-03-02 09:53:21] -_- : ETH shorts closing [2017-03-02 09:53:22] micmix : speculative asset is the most apt description [2017-03-02 09:53:27] rapidtrades : nope its nothingl ike gold [2017-03-02 09:53:53] arbitrage101 : as satoshi pointed, mass dillusion [2017-03-02 09:53:56] vgck : micmix: If you don't think dip buying is a good idea, what's your strategy? [2017-03-02 09:54:06] micmix : that's why is so fun to trade, gold is boring lol [2017-03-02 09:54:19] arbitrage101 : but illusion can be real if enough people beliee in it [2017-03-02 09:54:39] Ahhere : Anybody shorting the new supercrypto, dash? [2017-03-02 09:54:48] rapidtrades : for a short period of time only :) [2017-03-02 09:54:49] arbitrage101 : Ahhere: dont short a rocket [2017-03-02 09:55:05] Farzad : arbitrage101: +1 [2017-03-02 09:55:21] Farzad : Ahhere: dont go against main trend, u will get REKT [2017-03-02 09:55:45] -_- : we lost a lot of great traders who decided to short DASH [2017-03-02 09:56:15] Farzad : -_-: anyone deciding to short DASH is a gambler. not a trader [2017-03-02 09:56:34] -_- : ETC aka ETH's brother should go up more soon [2017-03-02 09:56:35] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: buy 1800 @ 0.014580 [2017-03-02 09:56:52] micmix : vgck: I don't have a strategy, I'm simply making money [2017-03-02 09:57:02] vgck : micmix: ? [2017-03-02 09:57:08] vgck : HODL? [2017-03-02 09:57:42] micmix : providing liquidity to 100x gamblers lol [2017-03-02 09:58:14] Farzad : micmix: do u think market making alone can be profitable here ? [2017-03-02 09:58:17] vgck : micmix: The spread? [2017-03-02 09:58:34] vgck : Don't the fees kinda cancel that out? [2017-03-02 09:58:38] micmix : Farzad: what do you mean 'alone'? [2017-03-02 09:58:42] Farzad : micmix: I tried it, but couldnt make it work. volume was not enough [2017-03-02 09:58:49] arbitrage101 : http://imgur.com/a/IjqYa [2017-03-02 09:59:17] Farzad : micmix: I mean you only profit from spread and commission and actually do not trade any strategies yourself [2017-03-02 09:59:37] micmix : Farzad: yes, you can make a lot from spread and rebate [2017-03-02 09:59:49] micmix : even without arbing the rate [2017-03-02 09:59:50] arbitrage101 : micmix: my bot keep losing money [2017-03-02 09:59:56] arbitrage101 : any tips? [2017-03-02 10:00:32] micmix : inventory control and hedging [2017-03-02 10:00:36] -_- : ETH buyers are crazy [2017-03-02 10:01:02] arbitrage101 : you benefit mainly from volatility? or something else at play [2017-03-02 10:01:18] Ahhere : Farzad: i think it is extremely over valued and shorting with wide stop [2017-03-02 10:01:21] arbitrage101 : make any assumption ? such as bull or bear trend? [2017-03-02 10:02:05] micmix : arbitrage101: no assumption, just capture the spread with minimal directional risk [2017-03-02 10:02:16] arbitrage101 : spread from what? [2017-03-02 10:02:25] micmix : bid/ask spread [2017-03-02 10:02:27] Farzad : arbitrage101: if u do any predictions, then it is trade, not market making. [2017-03-02 10:02:55] arbitrage101 : the bid ask spread right now is 0.01 [2017-03-02 10:02:59] Farzad : micmix: is your spread fixed ? or u try to provide best bid/ask ? [2017-03-02 10:03:16] arbitrage101 : Farzad: you are probably asking too detail [2017-03-02 10:03:22] arbitrage101 : no mm willing to share [2017-03-02 10:03:32] Farzad : yes I know, lol [2017-03-02 10:03:39] Farzad : but micmix is a nice fella [2017-03-02 10:03:41] micmix : arbitrage101: doesn't mean you have to quote 1 tick spread [2017-03-02 10:04:05] Farzad : micmix: Just tell me how do u minimize your directional risk ? :D [2017-03-02 10:04:06] arbitrage101 : i quote 15 dollars spread for 2 days [2017-03-02 10:04:11] arbitrage101 : no volume [2017-03-02 10:04:31] micmix : spread can get to $2-4 dollars for decent size. $15 is way too much [2017-03-02 10:05:01] arbitrage101 : think i have done a few times 30-50 dollars spreads here manually [2017-03-02 10:05:13] arbitrage101 : during volatile time [2017-03-02 10:05:26] micmix : Farzad: by managing inventory and hedging across multiple exchanges [2017-03-02 10:06:26] wurstgelee : good day everyone [2017-03-02 10:06:40] arbitrage101 : sup, @wurstgelee [2017-03-02 10:06:45] Farzad : micmix: but hedging a losing position just means you have locked in loss. it is almost like closing the losing position. am I wrong ? [2017-03-02 10:07:09] arbitrage101 : Farzad: price distortion happen all the time on btc [2017-03-02 10:07:14] arbitrage101 : on different exchanges [2017-03-02 10:07:16] wurstgelee : arbitrage101: not much, took the day off, slept another 5 hours - i needed that [2017-03-02 10:07:23] wurstgelee : all fine now [2017-03-02 10:07:23] wurstgelee : :) [2017-03-02 10:07:30] arbitrage101 : reason index here is so screwed up [2017-03-02 10:07:53] wurstgelee : okc usd is 50% of the index [2017-03-02 10:07:55] arbitrage101 : wurstgelee: feeling secure and making a lot on dash? [2017-03-02 10:07:56] wurstgelee : no need to say more [2017-03-02 10:08:06] Farzad : arbitrage101: thats right, but hedging a losing position and hoping for price distortion ? [2017-03-02 10:08:16] wurstgelee : arbitrage101: just woke up, nothing besides btc long atm [2017-03-02 10:08:41] ferpozie : difference btw a position and trade pls [2017-03-02 10:08:43] wurstgelee : well, two tiny coin and zec longs - but those dont count, really tiny [2017-03-02 10:08:44] arbitrage101 : Farzad: price distortion means, you can have okc selling at 5-10 dollars below price here [2017-03-02 10:08:49] arbitrage101 : or above [2017-03-02 10:09:02] arbitrage101 : you lock in "profit" [2017-03-02 10:09:09] arbitrage101 : then wait for reversal [2017-03-02 10:09:38] arbitrage101 : wurstgelee: going to put a few hundred zcash in my nano ledger s [2017-03-02 10:09:39] Farzad : arbitrage101: I understand, but you can trade that distortion. there is no need to risk for market making ! [2017-03-02 10:09:59] arbitrage101 : Farzad: you cant be online watching the price all the time [2017-03-02 10:10:08] arbitrage101 : need to automate the process [2017-03-02 10:10:10] wurstgelee : arbitrage101: not too bad as longer term hold at these prices ;) [2017-03-02 10:10:26] wurstgelee : unimaginable it wont ever go higher than this [2017-03-02 10:10:28] wurstgelee : so seems safe [2017-03-02 10:10:29] wurstgelee : ;) [2017-03-02 10:10:35] Farzad : market making means your average position should be zero and it requires high volumes. [2017-03-02 10:10:41] wurstgelee : relatively ofc...safe in crypto terms [2017-03-02 10:10:47] arbitrage101 : wurstgelee: yes, based on market cap and historical pump on dump patern [2017-03-02 10:10:52] wurstgelee : yep [2017-03-02 10:10:53] arbitrage101 : seem like a reasonable play [2017-03-02 10:11:09] wurstgelee : not great for a yolo long imo, but good longre term play [2017-03-02 10:11:24] Farzad : micmix: thanks for info anyway :) you shared more than enough ;) [2017-03-02 10:11:58] Farzad : I have given up on market making right now. lol [2017-03-02 10:12:51] elmorte : I still have some zcash I paid 5BTC for...it's worth over 26 cents at today's rate [2017-03-02 10:13:16] Whaler : wow [2017-03-02 10:13:19] -_- : Eth pumping [2017-03-02 10:13:24] Whaler : what ROI is that? :D [2017-03-02 10:13:28] Farzad : elmorte: 5 BTC -> 26 cents ?!! [2017-03-02 10:13:31] micmix : Farzad: yeah, market making is tricky. my algo uses some advanced math to decide how to place asks/bids [2017-03-02 10:13:35] elmorte : Farzad: yup [2017-03-02 10:13:38] elmorte : At Polo [2017-03-02 10:14:06] elmorte : At the same time, I bought 1 ZEC here for 2.5 BTC and sold it for 9 [2017-03-02 10:14:13] elmorte : so...still made out in green :) [2017-03-02 10:14:25] elmorte : I did the trade here first... [2017-03-02 10:14:30] elmorte : Then got greedy... [2017-03-02 10:14:51] elmorte : All this took 20min tops [2017-03-02 10:16:44] MikeHunt : Should see eth at 0.015 tomoz after okc wkly dump [2017-03-02 10:17:10] MikeHunt : Also is there demand for a windows client/bot for mex? [2017-03-02 10:20:40] wurstgelee : how 'bout not pulling wild theories out of ur dark place for one day? maybe give it a rest? ;) [2017-03-02 10:20:53] wurstgelee : no demand for windows client, thanks [2017-03-02 10:22:15] donsteep : if you make one, cross-platform would be better [2017-03-02 10:22:58] Farzad : /price [2017-03-02 10:23:03] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1230.00 (0.12%) Bitfinex : 1229.80 (-0.17%) The Woodchipper : 1230.02 (-0.01%) itBit : 1227.06 (0.05%) Kraken : 1227.11 (-0.14%) GDAX : 1229.00 (-0.08%) SLQ : 1 hour, 9 mins``` [2017-03-02 10:23:22] micmix : elmorte: I bought like 30-40 zcash when it just listed here but sold way too early bc had a flight the next day. made couple of coins in 40 minutes lol [2017-03-02 10:23:40] elmorte : :) [2017-03-02 10:23:56] micmix : could have made 50+ [2017-03-02 10:24:11] elmorte : It listed at something like 3am my time...I logged in just to see whats up before bed. [2017-03-02 10:24:28] elmorte : And I saw 1ZEC = 3BTC here and like 1000+ at Polo [2017-03-02 10:24:43] elmorte : Hardly slept :/ [2017-03-02 10:24:51] arbitrage101 : was sleeping good that day [2017-03-02 10:24:54] micmix : yep, I was here for the listing, bought the cheap ones for 0.03 or so [2017-03-02 10:24:56] arbitrage101 : miss all the fun [2017-03-02 10:26:43] wurstgelee : [11:23] micmix: could have made 50+ <--- yep. :D [2017-03-02 10:26:50] wurstgelee : way more even [2017-03-02 10:26:51] wurstgelee : :p [2017-03-02 10:27:12] micmix : I think first adl was at 0.6 or so, holding from 0.03 to first adl would have netted 2000% [2017-03-02 10:28:45] wurstgelee : micmix: Your long ZECZ16 position was deleveraged by 3 contracts at a price of 8.957605. [2017-03-02 10:28:51] wurstgelee : its a happy day if u have some of those [2017-03-02 10:28:51] wurstgelee : :D [2017-03-02 10:29:04] wurstgelee : Your position is now long 3 contracts at an average entry price of 1.691960. [2017-03-02 10:29:14] wurstgelee : so 7+ per contract.... [2017-03-02 10:29:20] wurstgelee : 7btc, ;) [2017-03-02 10:29:44] arbitrage101 : surprise no short is crying foul in the after math [2017-03-02 10:29:55] wurstgelee : longs should [2017-03-02 10:30:00] wurstgelee : that invisible wall [2017-03-02 10:30:08] wurstgelee : ok, that can happen [2017-03-02 10:30:24] wurstgelee : but "we are gonna remove it soon" - 5 mins - "onah not gonna lift it" [2017-03-02 10:30:27] wurstgelee : did cost me..... [2017-03-02 10:30:33] wurstgelee : 9 btc or sth [2017-03-02 10:30:56] wurstgelee : shitty handling of that situation [2017-03-02 10:31:28] wurstgelee : arbitrage101: if any, longs got fucked buy that wall, not shorts [2017-03-02 10:31:35] wurstgelee : by [2017-03-02 10:31:42] wurstgelee : it save some peoples accounts i guess [2017-03-02 10:32:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: buy 50 @ 0.014830 [2017-03-02 10:32:17] arbitrage101 : make me wonder if any zcash investor and employee short here to lock in their "salary" [2017-03-02 10:32:23] arbitrage101 : and profit [2017-03-02 10:32:49] wurstgelee : not too unlikely [2017-03-02 10:33:00] wurstgelee : every dog and his grandma were trading here [2017-03-02 10:33:05] wurstgelee : still user ath afaik [2017-03-02 10:33:10] wurstgelee : for mex [2017-03-02 10:33:22] arbitrage101 : at 10 btc a coin, they can probably retire [2017-03-02 10:33:28] elmorte : ETH you beauty... [2017-03-02 10:33:47] -_- : I'm not long eth and i feel bad [2017-03-02 10:34:08] wurstgelee : i am not caring about eth and i feel great [2017-03-02 10:34:16] m3s : -_-: ETH looks like it will bring early BTC adopter returns [2017-03-02 10:34:19] elmorte : I have some leftover for rainy day, not trading it here [2017-03-02 10:34:28] arbitrage101 : staying away from eth also [2017-03-02 10:34:28] mahouni : Im looking to enter a short position on eth and i feel fantastic [2017-03-02 10:34:36] arbitrage101 : seen many "hot" alt coins gone bust [2017-03-02 10:34:36] wurstgelee : not too long [2017-03-02 10:34:40] wurstgelee : mahouni: [2017-03-02 10:34:41] wurstgelee : ;) [2017-03-02 10:34:43] elmorte : wurstgelee: that's me & DASH [2017-03-02 10:34:51] elmorte : Just don't have the time to read up [2017-03-02 10:34:56] m3s : is bitmex going to add a ETH/USD contract ? [2017-03-02 10:35:12] wurstgelee : m3s: do you want us to say yes or no? [2017-03-02 10:35:21] wurstgelee : because we all clearly know this [2017-03-02 10:35:27] m3s : :D [2017-03-02 10:35:27] wurstgelee : everyone is bitmex staff here [2017-03-02 10:35:29] wurstgelee : ;) [2017-03-02 10:35:33] BitMEX_Wally : m3s: Quoted in USD and quantoed into XBT for settlement? [2017-03-02 10:35:36] wurstgelee : haha [2017-03-02 10:35:41] -_- : m3s: yeah to those who bought under $1 [2017-03-02 10:35:42] wurstgelee : good day wally ;) [2017-03-02 10:35:53] wurstgelee : BitMEX_Wally: yes [2017-03-02 10:35:56] wurstgelee : that would be nice tbh :) [2017-03-02 10:36:09] -_- : I'm in REP though so that's good [2017-03-02 10:36:12] m3s : -_-: yeah for ICO buyers [2017-03-02 10:36:12] elmorte : and rubles if you can @BitMEX_Wally [2017-03-02 10:36:44] wurstgelee : elmorte: i prefer shelll and sticks. lets not resort to ntional currencies, thats so narow-minded imo [2017-03-02 10:36:50] wurstgelee : *shells [2017-03-02 10:36:55] wurstgelee : *r [2017-03-02 10:37:07] wurstgelee : fuck, my keyboard needs cleaning or sth [2017-03-02 10:37:08] elmorte : wurstgelee: I don't know man...how fungible are shells and sticks really [2017-03-02 10:37:10] wurstgelee : or replacement [2017-03-02 10:37:29] wurstgelee : elmorte: lol [2017-03-02 10:37:47] c.l : /wall [2017-03-02 10:37:50] trollbot : ``` ±$30 Ask|Bid liquidity of 4 exchanges: 7691 Ƀ (0.00%) | 4665 Ƀ (0.00%) SLQ: ``` [2017-03-02 10:37:59] m3s : BitMEX_Wally: yes, something like that [2017-03-02 10:40:06] cryptoyolo : damn my orderds didnt get filled [2017-03-02 10:40:15] -_- : Time to short eth [2017-03-02 10:40:54] BitMEX_Wally : Hmmm, you could just long ETH/XBT and long XBT/USD then you would be long ETH/USD? [2017-03-02 10:42:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: buy 6 @ 0.014880 [2017-03-02 10:44:18] wagwanbebe : BitMEX_Wally: hi mate, if i limit a close will it be irreversible once ive clicked the button? [2017-03-02 10:45:00] BitMEX_Wally : wagwanbebe: If the limit order is passive you can always cancel the order later [2017-03-02 10:45:09] BitMEX_Wally : Once it trades it is irreversible [2017-03-02 10:46:16] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: sell 295 @ 0.001110 [2017-03-02 10:47:07] wagwanbebe : BitMEX_Wally: ok thanks :) [2017-03-02 10:47:56] MikeHunt : Eth probably wont survive the btc crash after eth fail in USD terms but until then it should keep going up [2017-03-02 10:48:09] MikeHunt : Etf fail* [2017-03-02 10:49:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `FCT7D`: sell 1400 @ 0.002479 [2017-03-02 10:49:46] ferpozie : BitMEX_Wally: wally i have a position. how do i trade it? [2017-03-02 10:50:14] BitMEX_Wally : ferpozie: You want to close it? [2017-03-02 10:50:46] wurstgelee : MikeHunt: no [2017-03-02 10:50:54] ferpozie : BitMEX_Wally: meaning to pst it as a buy? does it read from when i took a psition? [2017-03-02 10:51:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `DASH7D`: sell 30 @ 0.035940 [2017-03-02 10:52:14] BitMEX_Wally : ferpozie: If you bought then you will have a long position. If you want to close the position then you can sell [2017-03-02 10:52:20] wurstgelee : nice dash dump [2017-03-02 10:52:33] CBF : get back to werk mr gelee [2017-03-02 10:52:34] -_- : Dash dump time [2017-03-02 10:52:45] ferpozie : BitMEX_Wally: yes i bought so its showing as a position [2017-03-02 10:52:47] wurstgelee : CBF: nah [2017-03-02 10:52:53] CBF : k [2017-03-02 10:52:56] wurstgelee : CBF: rekip n day off [2017-03-02 10:53:01] CBF : aha [2017-03-02 10:53:09] CBF : i have just arisen [2017-03-02 10:53:31] wurstgelee : longkipped [2017-03-02 10:53:33] ferpozie : BitMEX_Wally: nt showing as an active order. how do i make it an active order? [2017-03-02 10:54:01] BitMEX_Wally : ferpozie: Do you want an active order to buy or to sell? [2017-03-02 10:54:02] CBF : i was awake to catch 21 [2017-03-02 10:54:19] -_- : Lol dash [2017-03-02 10:55:05] wurstgelee : -_-: only watching, too much madness [2017-03-02 10:55:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `DASH7D`: buy 8 @ 0.037918 [2017-03-02 10:55:21] wurstgelee : fuck longs. and fuck short, too [2017-03-02 10:55:22] wurstgelee : haha [2017-03-02 10:55:39] ayy_lmao : lol [2017-03-02 10:56:07] wurstgelee : that mm has a good humour [2017-03-02 10:56:18] ferpozie : BitMEX_Wally: i believe an active order is an actual order as against a position. pls where can i learn what these terms mean and the implications? thanks [2017-03-02 10:56:51] BitMEX_Wally : ferpozie: If you have an order it is is filled then the order is no longer active. You then have a position [2017-03-02 10:58:02] ferpozie : BitMEX_Wally: can u check my trading platform to see if I am doing the right thing? [2017-03-02 10:58:18] BitMEX_Wally : ferpozie: You can read our guides here: https://www.bitmex.com/app/tradingOverview [2017-03-02 10:59:23] BitMEX_Wally : ferpozie: You have a long position in XBTUSD, so if the price goes up you make money, if it goes down you lose money [2017-03-02 11:00:47] c.l : /price [2017-03-02 11:00:51] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1233.00 (0.24%) Bitfinex : 1230.00 (0.02%) The Woodchipper : 1231.05 (0.08%) itBit : 1228.21 (0.09%) Kraken : 1230.00 (0.24%) GDAX : 1232.41 (0.28%) SLQ : 37 mins``` [2017-03-02 11:03:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `DASH7D`: buy 51 @ 0.038174 [2017-03-02 11:04:16] wurstgelee : lol eth [2017-03-02 11:04:18] wurstgelee : just lol [2017-03-02 11:04:27] wurstgelee : dash ofc [2017-03-02 11:04:28] wurstgelee : oO [2017-03-02 11:04:39] ayy_lmao : https://cryptowat.ch/poloniex/dashbtc/1h [2017-03-02 11:04:43] ayy_lmao : this chart scares me [2017-03-02 11:04:48] ayy_lmao : nothing until 43 [2017-03-02 11:04:50] ayy_lmao : lol [2017-03-02 11:05:02] wurstgelee : ayy_lmao: yep, watching it too [2017-03-02 11:05:13] ayy_lmao : keeps flagging up [2017-03-02 11:05:19] wurstgelee : ayy_lmao: the 1m looks funny af too [2017-03-02 11:05:26] wurstgelee : recent minutes [2017-03-02 11:05:27] ayy_lmao : 500 btc dump [2017-03-02 11:05:32] ferpozie : BitMEX_Wally: Thanks Wally how do I make the money? By selling and with the leverage that I have now, does that make it look I am trading with 10X 0.28 bitcoins? Thanks [2017-03-02 11:06:35] cryptobull : BitMEX_Wally: u here? [2017-03-02 11:06:47] BitMEX_Wally : cryptobull: Hello [2017-03-02 11:07:15] cryptobull : BitMEX_Wally: I lost 27 referrals overnight...? [2017-03-02 11:07:16] BitMEX_Wally : ferpozie: The value of your position is 0.2849664 Bitcoin, and you are using 10x so that is 0.0286822 Bitcoin of margin [2017-03-02 11:07:40] BitMEX_Wally : cryptobull: Ahh, I archived some accounts that never traded, let me double check that calculation [2017-03-02 11:08:06] cryptobull : BitMEX_Wally: ok. Thx [2017-03-02 11:08:17] ayy_lmao : bitmex dash mms suck [2017-03-02 11:08:30] -_- : 0.04 [2017-03-02 11:08:55] ayy_lmao : what a time to be alive [2017-03-02 11:09:17] cryptobull : Dash on bitmex is dangerous [2017-03-02 11:09:25] ayy_lmao : very [2017-03-02 11:09:39] wurstgelee : what? noooo [2017-03-02 11:09:47] wurstgelee : only because of the 10-20% spread at times? [2017-03-02 11:09:49] wurstgelee : oO [2017-03-02 11:09:55] jayesh : why isnt it moving [2017-03-02 11:10:06] ayy_lmao : mark price far from polo [2017-03-02 11:10:10] wurstgelee : yep [2017-03-02 11:10:10] ayy_lmao : very [2017-03-02 11:10:41] wurstgelee : .04 smashed [2017-03-02 11:11:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `DASH7D`: sell 20 @ 0.037721 [2017-03-02 11:11:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `DASH7D`: sell 300 @ 0.037721 [2017-03-02 11:11:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `DASH7D`: sell 5 @ 0.037721 [2017-03-02 11:11:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `DASH7D`: sell 55 @ 0.037743 [2017-03-02 11:11:37] wurstgelee : haha [2017-03-02 11:11:42] wurstgelee : just wow [2017-03-02 11:11:58] jayesh : haha [2017-03-02 11:12:00] ayy_lmao : mark price so rekt [2017-03-02 11:12:03] wurstgelee : yep [2017-03-02 11:12:07] jayesh : longs getting liquidated on Rise.. [2017-03-02 11:13:02] ferpozie : BitMEX_Wally: ok but whats is the implication of that in laymans terms? [2017-03-02 11:13:23] ayy_lmao : i wonder how far polo has to pump for bitmex to breakout [2017-03-02 11:13:46] wurstgelee : new ath [2017-03-02 11:13:49] wurstgelee : i guess [2017-03-02 11:13:52] BitMEX_Wally : You are using 0.028 Bitcoin of your margin (a small percentage) in a 10x position [2017-03-02 11:13:56] ayy_lmao : so dumb lol [2017-03-02 11:14:30] BitMEX_Wally : ferpozie: And you are effectively long 0.28 Bitcoin [2017-03-02 11:16:56] ferpozie : BitMEX_Wally: meaning if bitcoin appreciates 100% and i sell what is my profit and fee? [2017-03-02 11:18:38] BitMEX_Wally : You went long 0.28 Bitcoin at 1231.92 so if you sell at 2463.84 you make 344.9376 USD worth of Bitcoin, which would be 0.14 Bitcoin profit [2017-03-02 11:18:57] BitMEX_Wally : There is a profit calculator on the site, click the calculator button next to the Place Order widget on the left [2017-03-02 11:21:05] ayy_lmao : moon [2017-03-02 11:21:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `DASH7D`: buy 10 @ 0.039022 [2017-03-02 11:22:14] zaico : BitMEX_Wally: regarding your article https://blog.bitmex.com/basic-basis-trading-strategies/ is there any spreadsheet to check the strategies? It would be VERY helpfull to understand the concepts of each strategy [2017-03-02 11:22:36] ferpozie : BitMEX_Wally: ok thanks. why didnt my whole o.4 bitcoins go for the trade? [2017-03-02 11:26:32] ayy_lmao : BitMEX_Wally: http://imgur.com/a/RnBGO [2017-03-02 11:26:44] ayy_lmao : maybe just me, but dash ticker doesnt fit in that container well [2017-03-02 11:27:29] cryptoyolo : holy [2017-03-02 11:27:36] cryptoyolo : dash is crazy [2017-03-02 11:27:58] BitMEX_Wally : ferpozie: You submitted an order for 351 contracts which is a position worth 0.28 Bitcoin, using 10x leverage that is 0.028 Bitcoin of your margin [2017-03-02 11:28:15] BitMEX_Wally : ferpozie: If you want to use 0.4 Bitcoin at 10x then open a position worth 4 Bitcoin [2017-03-02 11:28:17] ayy_lmao : dash could hit 0.01 [2017-03-02 11:28:26] ayy_lmao : bitmex would hit at 0.04 [2017-03-02 11:28:50] -_- : Much wow dash [2017-03-02 11:28:52] ayy_lmao : joke obviously [2017-03-02 11:29:13] ayy_lmao : not actually saying its going there [2017-03-02 11:29:33] miccheck12 : /joke [2017-03-02 11:29:34] trollbot : ``` I farted in my wallet. Now I have gas money.``` [2017-03-02 11:29:50] miccheck12 : sorry i got triggered [2017-03-02 11:31:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `DASH7D`: buy 100 @ 0.039806 [2017-03-02 11:32:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: sell 20 @ 0.014650 [2017-03-02 11:32:56] jayesh : Dash going crazy [2017-03-02 11:33:13] wurstgelee : organic growth [2017-03-02 11:33:27] wurstgelee : textbook natural rise [2017-03-02 11:34:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: sell 1111 @ 0.014600 [2017-03-02 11:34:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: sell 30 @ 0.014580 [2017-03-02 11:34:39] ayy_lmao : lol [2017-03-02 11:37:38] BitMEX_Wally : cryptobull: Ok your total referral count is now correct again, thanks for letting me know [2017-03-02 11:38:42] KyllingLolsson : /Price [2017-03-02 11:38:49] KyllingLolsson : /price [2017-03-02 11:38:53] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1233.00 (0.00%) Bitfinex : 1230.00 (0.00%) The Woodchipper : 1232.08 (0.08%) itBit : 1228.07 (-0.01%) Kraken : 1229.40 (-0.05%) GDAX : 1233.00 (0.05%) SLQ : 38 mins``` [2017-03-02 11:39:03] KyllingLolsson : /sentiment [2017-03-02 11:39:07] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 58.63 / 41.37 Daily : 48.57 / 51.43 Weekly : 50.82 / 49.18 Monthly : 48.52 / 51.48``` [2017-03-02 11:39:39] DorianWhack-A-Moto : Dash crash will be epic [2017-03-02 11:40:04] DorianWhack-A-Moto : here it is [2017-03-02 11:41:22] ayy_lmao : someone sold to 35 [2017-03-02 11:41:24] ayy_lmao : rip that dude [2017-03-02 11:43:16] Glogge : anybody short dash? [2017-03-02 11:43:49] mahouni : Im looking for a entry [2017-03-02 11:44:05] mahouni : Maybe tomorrow after the contract renewal [2017-03-02 11:44:54] cryptoyolo : im about to [2017-03-02 11:45:45] wurstgelee : lol gl [2017-03-02 11:46:11] cryptoyolo : not right now, but im watching the price action [2017-03-02 11:46:32] cryptoyolo : and polo order book [2017-03-02 11:46:39] wurstgelee : hm. the price action doesnt make me think "yeah, i should short this" tbh [2017-03-02 11:46:42] wurstgelee : ;) [2017-03-02 11:46:59] vgck : During the last contract renewal btc price dumped, right? [2017-03-02 11:47:06] wurstgelee : new dash ath [2017-03-02 11:47:07] wurstgelee : ;) [2017-03-02 11:47:17] wurstgelee : oh noe [2017-03-02 11:47:22] wurstgelee : i forgot that mad spike [2017-03-02 11:47:24] wurstgelee : nvm [2017-03-02 11:47:37] wurstgelee : any minute tho [2017-03-02 11:47:41] cryptoyolo : minor corrections always occur. [2017-03-02 11:48:03] wurstgelee : yes, doesnt make shorting those clever [2017-03-02 11:48:04] cryptoyolo : it is an easy short and long opportunity when they happen [2017-03-02 11:48:09] wurstgelee : hoping for a smaller scalp [2017-03-02 11:48:15] wurstgelee : your call anyways, gl [2017-03-02 11:48:26] wurstgelee : not with these orderbooks [2017-03-02 11:48:28] wurstgelee : here [2017-03-02 11:48:48] cryptoyolo : how far you think dash will go [2017-03-02 11:48:49] wurstgelee : easy to get locked in a positiin [2017-03-02 11:49:16] m3s : dash on a tear [2017-03-02 11:49:20] wurstgelee : no clue, a blow off top somewere around .1 doesnt seem impossible too me tho [2017-03-02 11:49:32] cryptoyolo : =o [2017-03-02 11:50:15] wurstgelee : btc price clearly has little influence on dash atm :] [2017-03-02 11:50:43] jayesh : BitMex unable to track Mark price with the fast movements of Poloniex [2017-03-02 11:50:45] zaico : BitMEX_Wally: regarding your article https://blog.bitmex.com/basic-basis-trading-strategies/ is there any spreadsheet to check the strategies? It would be VERY helpfull to understand the concepts of each strategy [2017-03-02 11:50:54] cryptoyolo : hell yes it does [2017-03-02 11:51:19] BitMEX_Wally : zaico: I think there is a spreadsheet somewhere but it is not up-to-date [2017-03-02 11:52:03] wurstgelee : cryptoyolo: as in "greatest off all times to pump an alt" - yes, as in "oh btc made an uptic, lets dump dush" - no [2017-03-02 11:52:06] wurstgelee : *dash [2017-03-02 11:52:33] zaico : BitMEX_Wally: i know. And it's about inverse futures. That's why I'm asking about this one. Will you make another one? [2017-03-02 11:53:38] BitMEX_Wally : zaico: I will ask Arthur if he can add a spreadsheet to the blog post