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[2017-03-02 05:22:33] Coconuter : within 5+ brokers
[2017-03-02 05:22:40] Coconuter : only one that let me make money
[2017-03-02 05:22:43] Coconuter : was bitmex
[2017-03-02 05:23:06] InvalidUser : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYyTM6W0vsI
[2017-03-02 05:23:07] Coconuter : im still waiting for the island party
[2017-03-02 05:23:42] Coconuter : InvalidUser: lol
[2017-03-02 05:23:50] Coconuter : your computer 486
[2017-03-02 05:24:00] Coconuter : makes more than you
[2017-03-02 05:24:41] arbitrage101 : buy da dip
[2017-03-02 05:24:51] arbitrage101 : get rich like everyone else
[2017-03-02 05:25:21] arbitrage101 : become a whale like Cream-White-Ox
[2017-03-02 05:25:34] arbitrage101 : or Almond-Cookie-Soarer
[2017-03-02 05:27:32] Coconuter : yes arb
[2017-03-02 05:27:34] Coconuter : lol
[2017-03-02 05:27:40] Coconuter : get that money and invest
[2017-03-02 05:27:44] Coconuter : in revolutionary ideas
[2017-03-02 05:27:47] Coconuter : not whores
[2017-03-02 05:27:55] Coconuter : 10th time i say this here
[2017-03-02 05:28:10] Coconuter : im tired of seying my friends loosing all on whoes and drugs
[2017-03-02 05:28:18] Coconuter : wake up everyone
[2017-03-02 05:28:30] Coconuter : invest in your potentential
[2017-03-02 05:28:53] Coconuter : they are fudning us for a reason
[2017-03-02 05:28:58] Coconuter : live or die
[2017-03-02 05:31:08] degen : you coked up @Coconuter ?
[2017-03-02 05:31:35] Coconuter : no
[2017-03-02 05:31:44] Coconuter : im just telling the newbies
[2017-03-02 05:31:49] Coconuter : how this reality works
[2017-03-02 05:31:55] Coconuter : its hard for me
[2017-03-02 05:31:58] Coconuter : imagine for them
[2017-03-02 05:32:18] degen : so you're drunk then
[2017-03-02 05:32:29] Coconuter : infinitydrunk
[2017-03-02 05:32:30] Coconuter : yes
[2017-03-02 05:33:00] degen : nice
[2017-03-02 05:33:43] Coconuter : i waiting for bitmex mega party
[2017-03-02 05:33:51] Coconuter : like they are afraid to do a party
[2017-03-02 05:33:57] Coconuter : with so much profit
[2017-03-02 05:34:00] Coconuter : lol
[2017-03-02 05:34:06] degen : party starts next week imo
[2017-03-02 05:34:12] Coconuter : arthur
[2017-03-02 05:34:14] Coconuter : please
[2017-03-02 05:34:25] Coconuter : invite us to your private island
[2017-03-02 05:34:26] degen : weekend dump since no sec action, then strong rally
[2017-03-02 05:34:27] Coconuter : lol
[2017-03-02 05:34:34] Coconuter : dude
[2017-03-02 05:34:46] Coconuter : yes
[2017-03-02 05:34:47] Coconuter : lol
[2017-03-02 05:34:57] Coconuter : rapid went to sleep
[2017-03-02 05:49:14] Coconuter : buy the top
[2017-03-02 05:50:45] arbitrage101 : Coconuter: what price did you short
[2017-03-02 05:51:06] Coconuter : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dK2tDK9grQ
[2017-03-02 05:51:13] Coconuter : dude look at this new cadillac
[2017-03-02 05:51:26] Coconuter : this reality is wayyyy programable
[2017-03-02 05:51:43] Coconuter : u short where i long @arbitrage101
[2017-03-02 05:51:58] Coconuter : iam amazed
[2017-03-02 05:52:01] Coconuter : with this cadillac
[2017-03-02 05:53:49] arbitrage101 : out for lunch
[2017-03-02 05:53:56] arbitrage101 : have fun
[2017-03-02 05:53:59] arbitrage101 : afk
[2017-03-02 06:08:25] micmix : elmorte: no, okc settles on index TWAP
[2017-03-02 06:08:42] elmorte : Right, thanks @micmix
[2017-03-02 06:09:01] elmorte : I get confused by their terms
[2017-03-02 06:10:15] elmorte : > How is settlement price chosen? The system takes the last completed transaction price as the settlement price.
[2017-03-02 06:10:23] elmorte : Guess that needs updating
[2017-03-02 06:19:12] j8 : they just mix up terminology. they are talking about weekly rebalance
[2017-03-02 06:19:29] j8 : on quarterly and biweekly
[2017-03-02 06:19:46] j8 : they call this settlement, and they call settlement "delivery"
[2017-03-02 06:22:21] elmorte : j8: cheers!
[2017-03-02 06:23:53] InvalidUser : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hxibHJOE5E
[2017-03-02 06:28:44] elmorte : j8: if you don't mind...what risk should I be aware of if going long on okc march and short bitmex march?
[2017-03-02 06:29:32] elmorte : Will the indexes converge more/less?
[2017-03-02 06:29:34] jose : elmorte: liquidation, deleveraging
[2017-03-02 06:29:47] jose : elmorte: indexes are not equal by the way
[2017-03-02 06:29:58] elmorte : liqudation shouldn't be a problem. Deleveraging, yes
[2017-03-02 06:30:34] elmorte : I was thinking more of a contract spec differences that someone new to OKC might not realize
[2017-03-02 06:31:00] j8 : a lot of people are betting on the china premium recovering once withdrawals are flowing. it might not happen by mar 31, there could be bad news about the AML process
[2017-03-02 06:32:05] BitMEX_John : elmorte: there is also a few hours time difference between OKCoin settlement and BitMEX settlement
[2017-03-02 06:32:09] j8 : meanwhile you could have serious fomo in the west if the ETF is approved
[2017-03-02 06:32:29] elmorte : BitMEX_John: that one I included already, thanks :)
[2017-03-02 06:32:58] elmorte : j8: mm..good point
[2017-03-02 06:33:03] BitMEX_John : elmorte: no worries, best of luck with the trade :)
[2017-03-02 06:33:13] elmorte : BitMEX_John: cheers bud!
[2017-03-02 06:33:44] j8 : and i don't really trust longs on okc (or really any futures) in the extreme bullish scenario
[2017-03-02 06:34:15] elmorte : yup. All I hear is horror stories, but then most of the big fish here use it
[2017-03-02 06:37:22] javierstone : bitmex futures premium is up
[2017-03-02 06:38:02] j8 : i'vsocialized losses kill arbs fast, and they have no insurance fund, big event coming, and still messed up liquidity in china
[2017-03-02 06:40:02] micmix : elmorte: counterparty risk for okc would be my biggest worry. you might ended up with your funds locked up
[2017-03-02 06:40:52] elmorte : due to some not yet implemented regulation? Or rumoured insolvency?
[2017-03-02 06:41:39] micmix : socialized losses on okc are usually bigger worry for shorts than for longs
[2017-03-02 06:42:49] elmorte : That I accept as part of their platform..it's just the thing I'm not aware of..
[2017-03-02 06:43:04] elmorte : things*
[2017-03-02 06:43:18] elmorte : There's no borrowing on the futures trading, is there?
[2017-03-02 06:43:42] BitMEX_John : elmorte: there's no funding fee on futures
[2017-03-02 06:43:59] elmorte : I meant on OKC
[2017-03-02 06:47:15] micmix : elmorte: not sure about Chinese regulations affecting Hong Kong exchange but okc.com is run by Chinese citizens. Chinese government can go after them personally if China decides to do something more than stopping withdrawals from .cn exchanges
[2017-03-02 06:47:42] elmorte : Yup, ok
[2017-03-02 06:47:48] micmix : if Star Xu disappears some day I'm pretty sure all our money will disappear with him
[2017-03-02 06:47:59] elmorte : Thanks everybody
[2017-03-02 07:03:46] arbitrage101 : micmix: heard his wife have access to the cold wallet
[2017-03-02 07:04:06] arbitrage101 : need both star wu and wife disappears
[2017-03-02 07:04:18] arbitrage101 : or hope the wife dont cheat on him
[2017-03-02 07:06:06] elmorte : The whole operation is one guy ala Poloniex?
[2017-03-02 07:06:28] Coconuter : chine breaksfast
[2017-03-02 07:06:36] rullwull : As I was told some powerful Chinese keep star's balls very tight after January 25% drop, they won't let him disappear before cover their losses @micmix
[2017-03-02 07:06:45] Coconuter : buy the fycjubg du=ip
[2017-03-02 07:06:57] arbitrage101 : elmorte: all exchanges are dangerous
[2017-03-02 07:07:08] Coconuter : jon
[2017-03-02 07:07:20] Coconuter : how we make money with no fees
[2017-03-02 07:07:22] Coconuter : onoooo
[2017-03-02 07:07:42] arbitrage101 : operation as big as okc and polo, they can run off and have enough money to settle for life
[2017-03-02 07:07:55] micmix : rullwull: sounds good, I believe in powerful Chinese ;-)
[2017-03-02 07:07:57] javierstone : here we go
[2017-03-02 07:07:58] Coconuter : like arthur king
[2017-03-02 07:08:00] Coconuter : said
[2017-03-02 07:08:09] Coconuter : leave 10% of your btc
[2017-03-02 07:08:14] Coconuter : on exchanges
[2017-03-02 07:11:16] arbitrage101 : the next alt coin correction will be bloody
[2017-03-02 07:13:21] MikeHunt : okc weekly dump should give em one last push
[2017-03-02 07:16:05] MikeHunt : also kraken has now gobbled up cryptowatch
[2017-03-02 07:16:51] elmorte : > 2016-01-26T09:27:08.627Z,elmorte,How many active traders are there, if you don't mind me asking? 2016-01-26T09:27:21.749Z,rapidtrades,7 2016-01-26T09:27:36.526Z,elmorte,For real? In a zero sum game? 2016-01-26T09:27:56.317Z,rapidtrades,j/k around 15-20 ppl frequent this chat
[2017-03-02 07:16:58] elmorte : The good old days :)
[2017-03-02 07:33:13] Farzad : /rekt
[2017-03-02 07:33:14] trollbot : ``` Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 22000 @ 1257.33 Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 35000 @ 1216.33 Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 60000 @ 1228.01 **MEGA-REKT** :boom: Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 40000 @ 1228.12 ```
[2017-03-02 07:39:18] Ahhere : /suggest include times on rekt highlights
[2017-03-02 07:39:19] trollbot : Thanks! got your suggestion buddy :D
[2017-03-02 07:40:40] Ahhere : So what's the plan today bitcoin? Maybe Its time to short dash .. hmm
[2017-03-02 07:43:13] BitMEX_John : Ahhere: good idea, I was about to suggest myself
[2017-03-02 07:43:35] BitMEX_John : looks a little too much like the rekt bot, could cause confusions
[2017-03-02 07:43:41] BitMEX_John : nice work though @Farzad
[2017-03-02 07:44:47] MikeHunt : Ahhere: with a $60 prem over okc qrt, what could possible go wrong on h17....
[2017-03-02 07:44:48] Farzad : BitMEX_John: ty, it will show 50K+ rekts in past 24 hours.
[2017-03-02 07:45:12] Farzad : I will add REKT times in next release
[2017-03-02 07:45:26] Farzad : Ahhere: ty for suggestion
[2017-03-02 07:45:55] Ahhere : Farzad: ty for awesome bot ;)
[2017-03-02 07:46:04] MikeHunt : $35*
[2017-03-02 07:46:25] rangle : will need more monitor space for all this trollbot info :)
[2017-03-02 07:47:43] Ahhere : Guys a lot of people buying into crypto I'm hearing from friends aware for years deciding it's no longer a scam just recently.
[2017-03-02 07:48:22] MikeHunt : Ahhere: if etf fails they are all gonna be butthurt
[2017-03-02 07:49:05] Apocalyptic : Ahhere: you know what that means righ
[2017-03-02 07:50:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `DASH7D`: sell 15 @ 0.036301
[2017-03-02 07:52:58] Farzad : /rekt
[2017-03-02 07:52:59] trollbot : ``` 18 hours, 10 mins, : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 22000 @ 1257.33 17 hours, 45 mins, : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 35000 @ 1216.33 16 hours, 50 mins, : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 60000 @ 1228.01 **MEGA-REKT** :boom: 16 hours, 48 mins, : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 40000 @ 1228.12 ```
[2017-03-02 07:54:19] Farzad : /rekt
[2017-03-02 07:54:20] trollbot : ``` 18 hours, 12 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 22000 @ 1257.33 17 hours, 46 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 35000 @ 1216.33 16 hours, 52 mins ago: Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 60000 @ 1228.01 **MEGA-REKT** :boom: 16 hours, 49 mins ago: Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 40000 @ 1228.12 ```
[2017-03-02 07:54:44] Farzad : Ahhere: here u go ;)
[2017-03-02 07:58:26] BitMEX_John : Farzad: is there a limit on the number it will show?
[2017-03-02 07:59:27] Farzad : BitMEX_John: It will only show 50K+ REKTs in past 24 hours, so there will be very few or even none.
[2017-03-02 08:00:24] rangle : quiet morning, people resting?
[2017-03-02 08:01:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `DASH7D`: sell 2 @ 0.035091
[2017-03-02 08:02:13] arbitrage101 : rangle: market is quiet
[2017-03-02 08:02:18] arbitrage101 : plus
[2017-03-02 08:02:28] arbitrage101 : many traders like to trade and watch porn
[2017-03-02 08:02:31] arbitrage101 : hand busy
[2017-03-02 08:03:55] rangle : sure...
[2017-03-02 08:04:35] REKT : Liquidated short on `DASH7D`: buy 1 @ 0.035876
[2017-03-02 08:13:44] BTCDJS : arbitrage101: have you tried listening to music instead. Something calm. Maybe soduku to keep the hand busy?
[2017-03-02 08:15:47] arbitrage101 : any suggestion to make the little brother less hard on the brain ?
[2017-03-02 08:16:00] arbitrage101 : taking all the blood
[2017-03-02 08:19:10] BTCDJS : arbitrage101: take care of him in the shower. Leave the rest of the day for more productive tasks
[2017-03-02 08:51:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTH17`: buy 8930 @ 1261.38
[2017-03-02 08:52:26] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTH17`: buy 17 @ 1265.10
[2017-03-02 08:53:17] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 1500 @ 1229.39
[2017-03-02 08:53:56] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 23000 @ 1229.67
[2017-03-02 09:03:15] cryptobull : Anyone from bitmex staff here?
[2017-03-02 09:05:21] cryptobull : BitMEX_John: u here?
[2017-03-02 09:06:25] -_- : damn REP pumping
[2017-03-02 09:06:46] cryptonoob : when would be a good time to short Bitcoin again?
[2017-03-02 09:06:51] cryptonoob : tough question lol
[2017-03-02 09:06:51] -_- : up 15%
[2017-03-02 09:07:44] InvalidUser : https://i.supload.com/rJFY3ItPx.jpg
[2017-03-02 09:08:09] -_- : stamp $1 away from ATH
[2017-03-02 09:10:11] rapidtrades : STOP
[2017-03-02 09:13:30] longbydefault : /price
[2017-03-02 09:13:40] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1228.47 (22.85%) Bitfinex : 1231.90 (23.19%) The Woodchipper : 1230.19 (23.02%) itBit : 1226.50 (22.65%) Kraken : 1228.88 (22.89%) GDAX : 1230.00 (23.00%) SLQ : ```
[2017-03-02 09:15:01] arbitrage101 : choo choo train
[2017-03-02 09:15:06] arbitrage101 : btc to mooon
[2017-03-02 09:16:51] vgck : rapidtrades: Are you trolling? Like is this all a joke and you've actually been long this entire time?
[2017-03-02 09:17:29] arbitrage101 : think rapid will get rekt soon
[2017-03-02 09:17:32] arbitrage101 : if not already
[2017-03-02 09:19:05] miccheck12 : /joke
[2017-03-02 09:19:07] trollbot : ``` I thought Friday was a sad day... Turns out the next day was a sadder day.```
[2017-03-02 09:19:35] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 3000 @ 1231.14
[2017-03-02 09:19:45] InvalidUser : BS
[2017-03-02 09:21:57] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 285 @ 1233.50
[2017-03-02 09:22:06] -_- : buy the dip
[2017-03-02 09:22:08] -_- : breaking happening
[2017-03-02 09:22:23] arbitrage101 : sell the rally
[2017-03-02 09:22:28] -_- : up $43 from a few hours ago lol
[2017-03-02 09:22:30] arbitrage101 : going to change my motto
[2017-03-02 09:22:36] arbitrage101 : sell the rally
[2017-03-02 09:22:55] arbitrage101 : joining rapid to short
[2017-03-02 09:23:05] arbitrage101 : a broken clock is right twice a day
[2017-03-02 09:23:33] shiroe : wombo combo. BTC + Dash + Leverage = Triple win!
[2017-03-02 09:23:52] -_- : i jumped in REP
[2017-03-02 09:23:58] -_- : that order book is thinner than DASH
[2017-03-02 09:24:14] -_- : i will lol if REP goes up 60% today
[2017-03-02 09:24:37] -_- : up 30% now
[2017-03-02 09:25:11] -_- : only thing that sucks is market maker doesnt quote a lot
[2017-03-02 09:28:09] arbitrage101 : market maker role is take advantage of price inefficiemcy
[2017-03-02 09:28:33] arbitrage101 : if you get filled, pretty sure you are being filled at bad price
[2017-03-02 09:29:50] rapidtrades : there are so many ppl planning to buy the dip on etf refusal
[2017-03-02 09:30:06] rapidtrades : trying to think how mr market will f*ck them
[2017-03-02 09:31:11] Farzad : market maker is trading against you. if it wants to provide good quotes, it needs high volume to hedge its positions, otherwise it is a losing game for market maker. I tried it. trust me :D
[2017-03-02 09:31:36] arbitrage101 : rapidtrades: you are shorting eth too?
[2017-03-02 09:31:50] arbitrage101 : why do you go against the tide?
[2017-03-02 09:32:15] rapidtrades : cos ilike to watch the world burn
[2017-03-02 09:32:33] Farzad : rapidtrades: u will get REKT sooner or later
[2017-03-02 09:32:42] rapidtrades : nope
[2017-03-02 09:33:04] Farzad : dont predict the market, ride with trend
[2017-03-02 09:33:09] Farzad : trading 101
[2017-03-02 09:33:21] -_- : ETF will have a Silkroad effect
[2017-03-02 09:33:31] -_- : dump that gets bought up so quick that price keeps going up to $2000
[2017-03-02 09:34:11] rapidtrades : oh fosho
[2017-03-02 09:34:25] Farzad : ETF approval will shoot the price to moon, refusal makes a short dump which will recover. mark my words.
[2017-03-02 09:34:39] rapidtrades : bitcooin so cheap at 20 bil, has to go up
[2017-03-02 09:35:15] rapidtrades : Farzad: ive marked ur words
[2017-03-02 09:35:32] jayesh : yup..
[2017-03-02 09:35:44] jayesh : It wont drop so hard as many think on refusal..
[2017-03-02 09:36:05] arbitrage101 : if you are shorting eth or btc here, you wont capture the full drop even if it crash
[2017-03-02 09:36:10] jayesh : But still Panic is more powerful.
[2017-03-02 09:36:11] Farzad : but I hope they refuse it, I dont like big players. I like how BTC is community money.
[2017-03-02 09:36:27] -_- : ETH and DASH look ready to break out again
[2017-03-02 09:36:56] rapidtrades : only idiots would buy bitcoin or dash here
[2017-03-02 09:37:18] vgck : rapidtrades: Does that make me an idiot?
[2017-03-02 09:37:34] rapidtrades : yes it does
[2017-03-02 09:38:06] Farzad : rapidtrades: well I dont know about DASH, but I bought several bitcoins yesterday. I mean by fiat.
[2017-03-02 09:38:09] RoftheN : I'm an idiot too!
[2017-03-02 09:38:26] Farzad : we are all idiots except rapid. lol
[2017-03-02 09:38:30] rapidtrades : yes ur all idiots
[2017-03-02 09:38:35] vgck : rapidtrades: So does that make you a genius for shorting the bottom?
[2017-03-02 09:38:47] Farzad : how old r u rapid ? seriously ?
[2017-03-02 09:38:47] vgck : Seems like the idiots are making more money...
[2017-03-02 09:38:56] ayy_lmao : time to short more
[2017-03-02 09:38:56] RoftheN : I want to know all your ages
[2017-03-02 09:39:00] rapidtrades : Farzad: ask ur mother bish
[2017-03-02 09:39:03] ayy_lmao : that will teach them!
[2017-03-02 09:39:06] vgck : RoftheN: 53
[2017-03-02 09:39:10] RoftheN : Old people
[2017-03-02 09:39:21] Farzad : rapidtrades: haha, OK. u r 12
[2017-03-02 09:39:23] RoftheN : You're almost as old as my dad
[2017-03-02 09:39:35] rapidtrades : Farzad: 12 INCHES!
[2017-03-02 09:39:38] RoftheN : My dad should trade here too
[2017-03-02 09:39:45] vgck : rapidtrades: You're mother said you're tendies are ready
[2017-03-02 09:39:48] Farzad : rapidtrades: 12 inches deep ?
[2017-03-02 09:41:53] Farzad : BTC growth has been very healthy, it is not likely to fall that much
[2017-03-02 09:42:21] Farzad : everyone will buy on a small dump
[2017-03-02 09:42:27] Farzad : including myself
[2017-03-02 09:42:59] Farzad : trading BTC 101 : buy now, if it falls buy more. manage your risk and leverage. profit.
[2017-03-02 09:43:18] vgck : Farzad: What is your liquidation, are you using cross or isolated?
[2017-03-02 09:43:39] Farzad : vgck: I am using cross.
[2017-03-02 09:43:44] Farzad : max leverage 5x
[2017-03-02 09:43:47] -_- : sucks that tomorrow is settlement. gotta play the alts smartly now
[2017-03-02 09:44:11] rapidtrades : Farzad: great so u will be insta liquidateed on ETF
[2017-03-02 09:44:14] Farzad : Liquidation always FAAAAAAR away
[2017-03-02 09:44:15] Ahhere : -_-: whats your strategy?
[2017-03-02 09:44:25] vgck : Farzad: Isn't it possible that BTC flash crashes low enough, REKTs you and takes your whole account with it?
[2017-03-02 09:44:26] -_- : FOMO in. FOMO out
[2017-03-02 09:44:34] rapidtrades : his strategy? being a bull in a bull market
[2017-03-02 09:44:45] Ahhere : lol re settlement? @-_-
[2017-03-02 09:44:51] -_- : ETH new high in a second
[2017-03-02 09:45:05] Farzad : I will close all of my positions before ETF
[2017-03-02 09:45:08] -_- : yeah fomo in and out with profit so you dont get stuck holding in a dump going into settlement
[2017-03-02 09:45:17] rapidtrades : Farzad: good luck with that
[2017-03-02 09:45:29] vgck : rapidtrades: Hey, works until it doesn't. As long as he isn't bagholding a long during a crash he'll come out a ahead
[2017-03-02 09:45:31] Ahhere : eth and monero had a nice path blazed by dash. It makes 50 dollars seem totally doable for both
[2017-03-02 09:45:44] vgck : Farzad: What if ETF decision is announced tomorrow?
[2017-03-02 09:46:14] arbitrage101 : my ledger nano s arrived
[2017-03-02 09:46:23] Ahhere : I almost never short. Currently short dash and it feels good
[2017-03-02 09:46:27] micmix : Farzad: this strategy got everyone rekt by the end of 2014
[2017-03-02 09:46:28] Farzad : vgck: then I should hope for the best. lol
[2017-03-02 09:47:07] micmix : I remember glorious MC to 160 on finex
[2017-03-02 09:47:09] vgck : Farzad: Good luck, would kill me if I made a decent amount of money and one flash crash later I was staring at 0...
[2017-03-02 09:47:47] Farzad : vgck: well, if your liq price is $500, I dont think ETF can make such a crash
[2017-03-02 09:48:06] vgck : Farzad: Is it that far down?
[2017-03-02 09:48:09] rapidtrades : maybe not on spot but we're 100/1 here
[2017-03-02 09:48:16] Farzad : vgck: yes, it is
[2017-03-02 09:48:30] vgck : rapidtrades: He said he was cross, 5x
[2017-03-02 09:48:50] Farzad : vgck: max 5x
[2017-03-02 09:48:54] Ahhere : Farzad: good luck chasing 500 stop hunters lol
[2017-03-02 09:49:02] Farzad : now it is 1.10x
[2017-03-02 09:50:04] -_- : ETH has a big wall to climb to 0.016
[2017-03-02 09:50:31] Farzad : micmix: I remember, but this time BTC's growth has been healthy
[2017-03-02 09:50:34] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: buy 1050 @ 0.014360
[2017-03-02 09:51:01] Farzad : and BTC has become more mainstream as a commodity
[2017-03-02 09:51:29] rapidtrades : lol commodity
[2017-03-02 09:51:31] micmix : Farzad: I think so too but buying every dip on the way down is not a good strategy
[2017-03-02 09:51:34] rapidtrades : the story changes
[2017-03-02 09:51:58] rapidtrades : they already ceded that this will not be a currency
[2017-03-02 09:52:16] rapidtrades : hint: just because its a shit currency, doesn't make it a commodity
[2017-03-02 09:52:20] arbitrage101 : the commodity future price no longer track the price here in asia
[2017-03-02 09:52:34] arbitrage101 : price distortion like bitcorn
[2017-03-02 09:52:59] rapidtrades : a more realistic characterization is speculative asset
[2017-03-02 09:53:01] Farzad : rapidtrades: BTC has failed as a currency, it is more like gold and hence commodity
[2017-03-02 09:53:21] -_- : ETH shorts closing
[2017-03-02 09:53:22] micmix : speculative asset is the most apt description
[2017-03-02 09:53:27] rapidtrades : nope its nothingl ike gold
[2017-03-02 09:53:53] arbitrage101 : as satoshi pointed, mass dillusion
[2017-03-02 09:53:56] vgck : micmix: If you don't think dip buying is a good idea, what's your strategy?
[2017-03-02 09:54:06] micmix : that's why is so fun to trade, gold is boring lol
[2017-03-02 09:54:19] arbitrage101 : but illusion can be real if enough people beliee in it
[2017-03-02 09:54:39] Ahhere : Anybody shorting the new supercrypto, dash?
[2017-03-02 09:54:48] rapidtrades : for a short period of time only :)
[2017-03-02 09:54:49] arbitrage101 : Ahhere: dont short a rocket
[2017-03-02 09:55:05] Farzad : arbitrage101: +1
[2017-03-02 09:55:21] Farzad : Ahhere: dont go against main trend, u will get REKT
[2017-03-02 09:55:45] -_- : we lost a lot of great traders who decided to short DASH
[2017-03-02 09:56:15] Farzad : -_-: anyone deciding to short DASH is a gambler. not a trader
[2017-03-02 09:56:34] -_- : ETC aka ETH's brother should go up more soon
[2017-03-02 09:56:35] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: buy 1800 @ 0.014580
[2017-03-02 09:56:52] micmix : vgck: I don't have a strategy, I'm simply making money
[2017-03-02 09:57:02] vgck : micmix: ?
[2017-03-02 09:57:08] vgck : HODL?
[2017-03-02 09:57:42] micmix : providing liquidity to 100x gamblers lol
[2017-03-02 09:58:14] Farzad : micmix: do u think market making alone can be profitable here ?
[2017-03-02 09:58:17] vgck : micmix: The spread?
[2017-03-02 09:58:34] vgck : Don't the fees kinda cancel that out?
[2017-03-02 09:58:38] micmix : Farzad: what do you mean 'alone'?
[2017-03-02 09:58:42] Farzad : micmix: I tried it, but couldnt make it work. volume was not enough
[2017-03-02 09:58:49] arbitrage101 : http://imgur.com/a/IjqYa
[2017-03-02 09:59:17] Farzad : micmix: I mean you only profit from spread and commission and actually do not trade any strategies yourself
[2017-03-02 09:59:37] micmix : Farzad: yes, you can make a lot from spread and rebate
[2017-03-02 09:59:49] micmix : even without arbing the rate
[2017-03-02 09:59:50] arbitrage101 : micmix: my bot keep losing money
[2017-03-02 09:59:56] arbitrage101 : any tips?
[2017-03-02 10:00:32] micmix : inventory control and hedging
[2017-03-02 10:00:36] -_- : ETH buyers are crazy
[2017-03-02 10:01:02] arbitrage101 : you benefit mainly from volatility? or something else at play
[2017-03-02 10:01:18] Ahhere : Farzad: i think it is extremely over valued and shorting with wide stop
[2017-03-02 10:01:21] arbitrage101 : make any assumption ? such as bull or bear trend?
[2017-03-02 10:02:05] micmix : arbitrage101: no assumption, just capture the spread with minimal directional risk
[2017-03-02 10:02:16] arbitrage101 : spread from what?
[2017-03-02 10:02:25] micmix : bid/ask spread
[2017-03-02 10:02:27] Farzad : arbitrage101: if u do any predictions, then it is trade, not market making.
[2017-03-02 10:02:55] arbitrage101 : the bid ask spread right now is 0.01
[2017-03-02 10:02:59] Farzad : micmix: is your spread fixed ? or u try to provide best bid/ask ?
[2017-03-02 10:03:16] arbitrage101 : Farzad: you are probably asking too detail
[2017-03-02 10:03:22] arbitrage101 : no mm willing to share
[2017-03-02 10:03:32] Farzad : yes I know, lol
[2017-03-02 10:03:39] Farzad : but micmix is a nice fella
[2017-03-02 10:03:41] micmix : arbitrage101: doesn't mean you have to quote 1 tick spread
[2017-03-02 10:04:05] Farzad : micmix: Just tell me how do u minimize your directional risk ? :D
[2017-03-02 10:04:06] arbitrage101 : i quote 15 dollars spread for 2 days
[2017-03-02 10:04:11] arbitrage101 : no volume
[2017-03-02 10:04:31] micmix : spread can get to $2-4 dollars for decent size. $15 is way too much
[2017-03-02 10:05:01] arbitrage101 : think i have done a few times 30-50 dollars spreads here manually
[2017-03-02 10:05:13] arbitrage101 : during volatile time
[2017-03-02 10:05:26] micmix : Farzad: by managing inventory and hedging across multiple exchanges
[2017-03-02 10:06:26] wurstgelee : good day everyone
[2017-03-02 10:06:40] arbitrage101 : sup, @wurstgelee
[2017-03-02 10:06:45] Farzad : micmix: but hedging a losing position just means you have locked in loss. it is almost like closing the losing position. am I wrong ?
[2017-03-02 10:07:09] arbitrage101 : Farzad: price distortion happen all the time on btc
[2017-03-02 10:07:14] arbitrage101 : on different exchanges
[2017-03-02 10:07:16] wurstgelee : arbitrage101: not much, took the day off, slept another 5 hours - i needed that
[2017-03-02 10:07:23] wurstgelee : all fine now
[2017-03-02 10:07:23] wurstgelee : :)
[2017-03-02 10:07:30] arbitrage101 : reason index here is so screwed up
[2017-03-02 10:07:53] wurstgelee : okc usd is 50% of the index
[2017-03-02 10:07:55] arbitrage101 : wurstgelee: feeling secure and making a lot on dash?
[2017-03-02 10:07:56] wurstgelee : no need to say more
[2017-03-02 10:08:06] Farzad : arbitrage101: thats right, but hedging a losing position and hoping for price distortion ?
[2017-03-02 10:08:16] wurstgelee : arbitrage101: just woke up, nothing besides btc long atm
[2017-03-02 10:08:41] ferpozie : difference btw a position and trade pls
[2017-03-02 10:08:43] wurstgelee : well, two tiny coin and zec longs - but those dont count, really tiny
[2017-03-02 10:08:44] arbitrage101 : Farzad: price distortion means, you can have okc selling at 5-10 dollars below price here
[2017-03-02 10:08:49] arbitrage101 : or above
[2017-03-02 10:09:02] arbitrage101 : you lock in "profit"
[2017-03-02 10:09:09] arbitrage101 : then wait for reversal
[2017-03-02 10:09:38] arbitrage101 : wurstgelee: going to put a few hundred zcash in my nano ledger s
[2017-03-02 10:09:39] Farzad : arbitrage101: I understand, but you can trade that distortion. there is no need to risk for market making !
[2017-03-02 10:09:59] arbitrage101 : Farzad: you cant be online watching the price all the time
[2017-03-02 10:10:08] arbitrage101 : need to automate the process
[2017-03-02 10:10:10] wurstgelee : arbitrage101: not too bad as longer term hold at these prices ;)
[2017-03-02 10:10:26] wurstgelee : unimaginable it wont ever go higher than this
[2017-03-02 10:10:28] wurstgelee : so seems safe
[2017-03-02 10:10:29] wurstgelee : ;)
[2017-03-02 10:10:35] Farzad : market making means your average position should be zero and it requires high volumes.
[2017-03-02 10:10:41] wurstgelee : relatively ofc...safe in crypto terms
[2017-03-02 10:10:47] arbitrage101 : wurstgelee: yes, based on market cap and historical pump on dump patern
[2017-03-02 10:10:52] wurstgelee : yep
[2017-03-02 10:10:53] arbitrage101 : seem like a reasonable play
[2017-03-02 10:11:09] wurstgelee : not great for a yolo long imo, but good longre term play
[2017-03-02 10:11:24] Farzad : micmix: thanks for info anyway :) you shared more than enough ;)
[2017-03-02 10:11:58] Farzad : I have given up on market making right now. lol
[2017-03-02 10:12:51] elmorte : I still have some zcash I paid 5BTC for...it's worth over 26 cents at today's rate
[2017-03-02 10:13:16] Whaler : wow
[2017-03-02 10:13:19] -_- : Eth pumping
[2017-03-02 10:13:24] Whaler : what ROI is that? :D
[2017-03-02 10:13:28] Farzad : elmorte: 5 BTC -> 26 cents ?!!
[2017-03-02 10:13:31] micmix : Farzad: yeah, market making is tricky. my algo uses some advanced math to decide how to place asks/bids
[2017-03-02 10:13:35] elmorte : Farzad: yup
[2017-03-02 10:13:38] elmorte : At Polo
[2017-03-02 10:14:06] elmorte : At the same time, I bought 1 ZEC here for 2.5 BTC and sold it for 9
[2017-03-02 10:14:13] elmorte : so...still made out in green :)
[2017-03-02 10:14:25] elmorte : I did the trade here first...
[2017-03-02 10:14:30] elmorte : Then got greedy...
[2017-03-02 10:14:51] elmorte : All this took 20min tops
[2017-03-02 10:16:44] MikeHunt : Should see eth at 0.015 tomoz after okc wkly dump
[2017-03-02 10:17:10] MikeHunt : Also is there demand for a windows client/bot for mex?
[2017-03-02 10:20:40] wurstgelee : how 'bout not pulling wild theories out of ur dark place for one day? maybe give it a rest? ;)
[2017-03-02 10:20:53] wurstgelee : no demand for windows client, thanks
[2017-03-02 10:22:15] donsteep : if you make one, cross-platform would be better
[2017-03-02 10:22:58] Farzad : /price
[2017-03-02 10:23:03] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1230.00 (0.12%) Bitfinex : 1229.80 (-0.17%) The Woodchipper : 1230.02 (-0.01%) itBit : 1227.06 (0.05%) Kraken : 1227.11 (-0.14%) GDAX : 1229.00 (-0.08%) SLQ : 1 hour, 9 mins```
[2017-03-02 10:23:22] micmix : elmorte: I bought like 30-40 zcash when it just listed here but sold way too early bc had a flight the next day. made couple of coins in 40 minutes lol
[2017-03-02 10:23:40] elmorte : :)
[2017-03-02 10:23:56] micmix : could have made 50+
[2017-03-02 10:24:11] elmorte : It listed at something like 3am my time...I logged in just to see whats up before bed.
[2017-03-02 10:24:28] elmorte : And I saw 1ZEC = 3BTC here and like 1000+ at Polo
[2017-03-02 10:24:43] elmorte : Hardly slept :/
[2017-03-02 10:24:51] arbitrage101 : was sleeping good that day
[2017-03-02 10:24:54] micmix : yep, I was here for the listing, bought the cheap ones for 0.03 or so
[2017-03-02 10:24:56] arbitrage101 : miss all the fun
[2017-03-02 10:26:43] wurstgelee : [11:23] micmix: could have made 50+ <--- yep. :D
[2017-03-02 10:26:50] wurstgelee : way more even
[2017-03-02 10:26:51] wurstgelee : :p
[2017-03-02 10:27:12] micmix : I think first adl was at 0.6 or so, holding from 0.03 to first adl would have netted 2000%
[2017-03-02 10:28:45] wurstgelee : micmix: Your long ZECZ16 position was deleveraged by 3 contracts at a price of 8.957605.
[2017-03-02 10:28:51] wurstgelee : its a happy day if u have some of those
[2017-03-02 10:28:51] wurstgelee : :D
[2017-03-02 10:29:04] wurstgelee : Your position is now long 3 contracts at an average entry price of 1.691960.
[2017-03-02 10:29:14] wurstgelee : so 7+ per contract....
[2017-03-02 10:29:20] wurstgelee : 7btc, ;)
[2017-03-02 10:29:44] arbitrage101 : surprise no short is crying foul in the after math
[2017-03-02 10:29:55] wurstgelee : longs should
[2017-03-02 10:30:00] wurstgelee : that invisible wall
[2017-03-02 10:30:08] wurstgelee : ok, that can happen
[2017-03-02 10:30:24] wurstgelee : but "we are gonna remove it soon" - 5 mins - "onah not gonna lift it"
[2017-03-02 10:30:27] wurstgelee : did cost me.....
[2017-03-02 10:30:33] wurstgelee : 9 btc or sth
[2017-03-02 10:30:56] wurstgelee : shitty handling of that situation
[2017-03-02 10:31:28] wurstgelee : arbitrage101: if any, longs got fucked buy that wall, not shorts
[2017-03-02 10:31:35] wurstgelee : by
[2017-03-02 10:31:42] wurstgelee : it save some peoples accounts i guess
[2017-03-02 10:32:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: buy 50 @ 0.014830
[2017-03-02 10:32:17] arbitrage101 : make me wonder if any zcash investor and employee short here to lock in their "salary"
[2017-03-02 10:32:23] arbitrage101 : and profit
[2017-03-02 10:32:49] wurstgelee : not too unlikely
[2017-03-02 10:33:00] wurstgelee : every dog and his grandma were trading here
[2017-03-02 10:33:05] wurstgelee : still user ath afaik
[2017-03-02 10:33:10] wurstgelee : for mex
[2017-03-02 10:33:22] arbitrage101 : at 10 btc a coin, they can probably retire
[2017-03-02 10:33:28] elmorte : ETH you beauty...
[2017-03-02 10:33:47] -_- : I'm not long eth and i feel bad
[2017-03-02 10:34:08] wurstgelee : i am not caring about eth and i feel great
[2017-03-02 10:34:16] m3s : -_-: ETH looks like it will bring early BTC adopter returns
[2017-03-02 10:34:19] elmorte : I have some leftover for rainy day, not trading it here
[2017-03-02 10:34:28] arbitrage101 : staying away from eth also
[2017-03-02 10:34:28] mahouni : Im looking to enter a short position on eth and i feel fantastic
[2017-03-02 10:34:36] arbitrage101 : seen many "hot" alt coins gone bust
[2017-03-02 10:34:36] wurstgelee : not too long
[2017-03-02 10:34:40] wurstgelee : mahouni:
[2017-03-02 10:34:41] wurstgelee : ;)
[2017-03-02 10:34:43] elmorte : wurstgelee: that's me & DASH
[2017-03-02 10:34:51] elmorte : Just don't have the time to read up
[2017-03-02 10:34:56] m3s : is bitmex going to add a ETH/USD contract ?
[2017-03-02 10:35:12] wurstgelee : m3s: do you want us to say yes or no?
[2017-03-02 10:35:21] wurstgelee : because we all clearly know this
[2017-03-02 10:35:27] m3s : :D
[2017-03-02 10:35:27] wurstgelee : everyone is bitmex staff here
[2017-03-02 10:35:29] wurstgelee : ;)
[2017-03-02 10:35:33] BitMEX_Wally : m3s: Quoted in USD and quantoed into XBT for settlement?
[2017-03-02 10:35:36] wurstgelee : haha
[2017-03-02 10:35:41] -_- : m3s: yeah to those who bought under $1
[2017-03-02 10:35:42] wurstgelee : good day wally ;)
[2017-03-02 10:35:53] wurstgelee : BitMEX_Wally: yes
[2017-03-02 10:35:56] wurstgelee : that would be nice tbh :)
[2017-03-02 10:36:09] -_- : I'm in REP though so that's good
[2017-03-02 10:36:12] m3s : -_-: yeah for ICO buyers
[2017-03-02 10:36:12] elmorte : and rubles if you can @BitMEX_Wally
[2017-03-02 10:36:44] wurstgelee : elmorte: i prefer shelll and sticks. lets not resort to ntional currencies, thats so narow-minded imo
[2017-03-02 10:36:50] wurstgelee : *shells
[2017-03-02 10:36:55] wurstgelee : *r
[2017-03-02 10:37:07] wurstgelee : fuck, my keyboard needs cleaning or sth
[2017-03-02 10:37:08] elmorte : wurstgelee: I don't know man...how fungible are shells and sticks really
[2017-03-02 10:37:10] wurstgelee : or replacement
[2017-03-02 10:37:29] wurstgelee : elmorte: lol
[2017-03-02 10:37:47] c.l : /wall
[2017-03-02 10:37:50] trollbot : ``` ±$30 Ask|Bid liquidity of 4 exchanges: 7691 Ƀ (0.00%) | 4665 Ƀ (0.00%) SLQ: ```
[2017-03-02 10:37:59] m3s : BitMEX_Wally: yes, something like that
[2017-03-02 10:40:06] cryptoyolo : damn my orderds didnt get filled
[2017-03-02 10:40:15] -_- : Time to short eth
[2017-03-02 10:40:54] BitMEX_Wally : Hmmm, you could just long ETH/XBT and long XBT/USD then you would be long ETH/USD?
[2017-03-02 10:42:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: buy 6 @ 0.014880
[2017-03-02 10:44:18] wagwanbebe : BitMEX_Wally: hi mate, if i limit a close will it be irreversible once ive clicked the button?
[2017-03-02 10:45:00] BitMEX_Wally : wagwanbebe: If the limit order is passive you can always cancel the order later
[2017-03-02 10:45:09] BitMEX_Wally : Once it trades it is irreversible
[2017-03-02 10:46:16] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: sell 295 @ 0.001110
[2017-03-02 10:47:07] wagwanbebe : BitMEX_Wally: ok thanks :)
[2017-03-02 10:47:56] MikeHunt : Eth probably wont survive the btc crash after eth fail in USD terms but until then it should keep going up
[2017-03-02 10:48:09] MikeHunt : Etf fail*
[2017-03-02 10:49:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `FCT7D`: sell 1400 @ 0.002479
[2017-03-02 10:49:46] ferpozie : BitMEX_Wally: wally i have a position. how do i trade it?
[2017-03-02 10:50:14] BitMEX_Wally : ferpozie: You want to close it?
[2017-03-02 10:50:46] wurstgelee : MikeHunt: no
[2017-03-02 10:50:54] ferpozie : BitMEX_Wally: meaning to pst it as a buy? does it read from when i took a psition?
[2017-03-02 10:51:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `DASH7D`: sell 30 @ 0.035940
[2017-03-02 10:52:14] BitMEX_Wally : ferpozie: If you bought then you will have a long position. If you want to close the position then you can sell
[2017-03-02 10:52:20] wurstgelee : nice dash dump
[2017-03-02 10:52:33] CBF : get back to werk mr gelee
[2017-03-02 10:52:34] -_- : Dash dump time
[2017-03-02 10:52:45] ferpozie : BitMEX_Wally: yes i bought so its showing as a position