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<< >> English 中文 Русский 한국어 日本語 Español Français [2017-03-01 19:27:44] wurstgelee : i am only refering to $800 till now [2017-03-01 19:28:26] BTCDJS : wurstgelee: Don't forget he shorted swap and he's getting funding. If he shorted march he would be fucked bigly [2017-03-01 19:28:35] rapidtrades : like i said, it was only a bad trade in hindsight...i suspect there's a lot behind the scenes we don't yet know about [2017-03-01 19:28:52] indelibleTrade : Etc has a nice boner today [2017-03-01 19:28:56] rapidtrades : the painfully slow rally should worry the bulls [2017-03-01 19:29:15] wurstgelee : its not painful if u are long, only if u are short [2017-03-01 19:29:23] MikeHunt : wurstgelee: i shorted march, had i done what rapid did it'd still be alive [2017-03-01 19:29:53] BTCDJS : We made three drives and were bullish for 2 years. I can see where you're coming from @rapidtrades But I've learned from this. ONLY SHORT IF THE TREND IS BROKEN [2017-03-01 19:30:03] wurstgelee : MikeHunt: you can call it what you want, being short since $800 is plain stupid. [2017-03-01 19:30:06] Puffle-Razor-Spark : rapidtrades: lol, do you have a life? [2017-03-01 19:30:28] MikeHunt : wurstgelee: yeh, an expensive lesson, i was short from ~$900 [2017-03-01 19:30:37] sleger : MikeHunt: u dead ? [2017-03-01 19:30:58] MikeHunt : sleger: my short got KO-ed a while back, playing with what little have left [2017-03-01 19:31:04] sleger : does that count as an exit ? I'm confused [2017-03-01 19:31:13] wurstgelee : lol, me 2 [2017-03-01 19:31:14] sleger : you would still be short though ? [2017-03-01 19:31:18] -_- : MikeHunt: got rekt [2017-03-01 19:31:19] sleger : if you could [2017-03-01 19:31:23] -_- : he has $40 left [2017-03-01 19:31:33] MikeHunt : -_-: $70* [2017-03-01 19:31:37] wurstgelee : so instead of 100% rekt u are only 99% rekt thanks to rapidtrades? [2017-03-01 19:31:42] mahouni : Too much hype im looking in to opening short position in few days [2017-03-01 19:31:43] sleger : all good then you can make it back [2017-03-01 19:31:45] wurstgelee : is that what you are saying [2017-03-01 19:31:47] -_- : 100x short and be back to $700 soon [2017-03-01 19:31:48] wurstgelee : ? [2017-03-01 19:32:04] -_- : then long the bottom and have 2 btc after the bounce [2017-03-01 19:32:14] MikeHunt : im longing eth on tops and longing btc on dips [2017-03-01 19:32:29] rapidtrades : the only way im getting rekt is by etf acceptance, which will not happen [2017-03-01 19:33:01] rustiv : rapidtrades: never say never -Justin Bieber [2017-03-01 19:33:08] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: ur on spot so even if it does get accepted u wont get blown up imo [2017-03-01 19:33:08] MrRGnome : rapidtrades: I'm very excited for that rekt. [2017-03-01 19:33:13] wurstgelee : rapidtrades: so ur chance of rekt is the chance of etf approval? [2017-03-01 19:33:14] wurstgelee : wow [2017-03-01 19:33:28] wurstgelee : thats a stupid position u maneuvered urself into [2017-03-01 19:33:34] sleger : thats a 50/50 gamble [2017-03-01 19:33:37] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: I don't think ETF will bring price bellow 800 if 2014 - 2017 is actually consolidation [2017-03-01 19:33:37] wurstgelee : yep [2017-03-01 19:33:38] j8 : still lots of time to pump before the news [2017-03-01 19:33:54] sleger : rapidtrades: and if you get rekt you are down 100% of your trading capital ? [2017-03-01 19:33:54] wurstgelee : rapidtrades: u playing head or tails and call igh lev longs stupid? [2017-03-01 19:33:57] wurstgelee : lol [2017-03-01 19:33:57] MikeHunt : i think we'll see $400s if it fails ;) [2017-03-01 19:34:04] rapidtrades : its only 50/50 for the gullible [2017-03-01 19:34:05] sleger : MikeHunt: or 80k [2017-03-01 19:34:15] sleger : rapidtrades: i think 50/50 is a fair price [2017-03-01 19:34:19] MikeHunt : sleger: 80k (cny) if etf approved ;) [2017-03-01 19:34:27] sleger : i doubt it [2017-03-01 19:34:36] rapidtrades : well ur an ETH investor too soo @sleger [2017-03-01 19:34:39] wurstgelee : rapidtrades: grats, u put ur fate in the hands of the SEC. didnt know thats what clever traders do. are you sure u do risk warehousing right? [2017-03-01 19:34:47] sleger : rapidtrades: up 100k$ on eth alone [2017-03-01 19:35:02] rapidtrades : after u dumped 1 mil into it? [2017-03-01 19:35:07] sleger : 250k [2017-03-01 19:35:20] wurstgelee : rapidtrades: u recall eth ico price? [2017-03-01 19:35:26] -_- : 30 cents [2017-03-01 19:35:28] Apocalyptic : not bad, what timeframe sleger ? [2017-03-01 19:35:31] sleger : i wasnt in the ico though [2017-03-01 19:35:42] rapidtrades : ur IQ < ur bank account @sleger [2017-03-01 19:35:44] Puffle-Razor-Spark : wurstgelee: 1300ETH/BTC [2017-03-01 19:35:45] wurstgelee : sleger: if not confidential, where did u buy in? [2017-03-01 19:35:45] -_- : eth was like 41 cents on exchanges [2017-03-01 19:35:47] BTCDJS : I just missed it [2017-03-01 19:35:47] sleger : i bought after dao hack and on the way down [2017-03-01 19:35:57] wurstgelee : sleger: oh right, i recall that [2017-03-01 19:36:01] MrRGnome : I almost lost my ass on eth crash, had to trade my tits off to come out positive [2017-03-01 19:36:07] wurstgelee : u were buying heaps and got a lot of shit for that [2017-03-01 19:36:11] wurstgelee : here [2017-03-01 19:36:24] MikeHunt : i think if btc freefalls then eth will join it like ltc did back in 2014 [2017-03-01 19:36:33] -_- : no [2017-03-01 19:36:33] Bitcoin_N_Robin : what kind of trailing stop $ amount you guys use? [2017-03-01 19:36:39] -_- : btc does not equal eth [2017-03-01 19:36:47] -_- : unlike ltc which took a whole afternoon to create [2017-03-01 19:36:50] BTCDJS : Im buying ETH dips fosho all the way [2017-03-01 19:36:52] sleger : Bitcoin_N_Robin: 2000000$ [2017-03-01 19:36:59] wurstgelee : MrRGnome: happened to see the first tweets early, was able to fomo short a few k eth into some bigger order ;) [2017-03-01 19:37:07] Papou : why dont we consolidate at 1000? why do they keep pumping this and not at least want to buy a bit lower [2017-03-01 19:37:13] wurstgelee : nice payday that was [2017-03-01 19:37:22] -_- : Papou: some ETF insiders are buying [2017-03-01 19:37:32] Papou : etf isnt passing dude [2017-03-01 19:37:34] -_- : they need to hold a certain amount of BTC before the approval [2017-03-01 19:37:38] Papou : it would have already [2017-03-01 19:37:39] MikeHunt : Papou: drop it real hard on etf fail ? [2017-03-01 19:37:43] rapidtrades : Papou: cos they know ETF will be rejected [2017-03-01 19:37:47] Papou : they probably got paid to delay it under the table [2017-03-01 19:37:51] Papou : so they can make fomo hype [2017-03-01 19:38:05] Papou : etf fails im afraid we will touch 500 [2017-03-01 19:38:06] -_- : OTC markets dried up. exchanges running low on sellers [2017-03-01 19:38:10] -_- : it all makes sense [2017-03-01 19:38:19] -_- : localbitcoins record volume [2017-03-01 19:38:20] rapidtrades : ppl thinking ETF has 50% shot are drinking their own coolaid [2017-03-01 19:38:22] -_- : the hype is real [2017-03-01 19:38:37] MikeHunt : that'd be funny, hit gox ath on all exchanges then denied... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKOjV-wtpPc&t=29s [2017-03-01 19:38:51] rapidtrades : if the hype is real, then why are we only up 1% in 6 days? [2017-03-01 19:39:04] sleger : MikeHunt: that would be funny if you still had money to play [2017-03-01 19:39:13] -_- : manipulation to keep the price down [2017-03-01 19:39:16] Papou : china top traders are dumping into the pump [2017-03-01 19:39:20] Papou : so they know something [2017-03-01 19:39:24] sleger : rapidtrades: why pick 6 days ? [2017-03-01 19:39:35] rapidtrades : to prove my point dummy [2017-03-01 19:39:42] Papou : whoever sells at these levels has a lot of capital and profits to open market sells and dump this back down and make money on thre reverse [2017-03-01 19:39:56] sleger : rapidtrades: thats what i thought [2017-03-01 19:40:06] rapidtrades : :) [2017-03-01 19:40:40] sleger : also bitcoin has never really been more than 3$ above its ATH, sad [2017-03-01 19:40:43] MikeHunt : sleger: i can make it back, and by time it settled i'd be able to buy in for next bull run [2017-03-01 19:40:59] sleger : MikeHunt: from 70$ to ? [2017-03-01 19:41:26] MikeHunt : sleger: at the moment im less concerned about overall $ amount but making sure majority of trades are profitable [2017-03-01 19:41:58] sleger : having 80% of profitable trades is easy, doesnt mean you will make money [2017-03-01 19:42:15] sleger : you can even achieve that at the casino btw [2017-03-01 19:42:17] rapidtrades : just ask sausage, he knows [2017-03-01 19:42:24] MikeHunt : sleger: profit = making money? [2017-03-01 19:42:57] GTmann : semantics get tricky [2017-03-01 19:43:01] sleger : if you make 9 times 1$ but lose 1 time 20$ = 90% of trades in profit != making money [2017-03-01 19:43:04] sleger : MikeHunt: [2017-03-01 19:43:07] sleger : dummy [2017-03-01 19:43:10] Apocalyptic : MikeHunt: you canhave profit on 9 from 10 trades and still lose money overall [2017-03-01 19:43:29] rapidtrades : no need for name calling guys [2017-03-01 19:43:30] MikeHunt : sleger: well i mean overall profitable, no what u said [2017-03-01 19:43:39] rapidtrades : so emotional here [2017-03-01 19:43:44] Rado : name calling is great [2017-03-01 19:44:03] sleger : Rado: he's used to it [2017-03-01 19:44:11] Rado : yeah [2017-03-01 19:44:56] rapidtrades : why does this get bad reviews https://www.amazon.com/HP-Convertible-15-6-Inch-Touchscreen-Bluetooth/dp/B01N1GJN53/ [2017-03-01 19:45:03] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: HP [2017-03-01 19:45:20] wurstgelee : that [2017-03-01 19:45:36] rapidtrades : is HP a bad brand? my laptop is hp [2017-03-01 19:45:43] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: u have a bad laptop [2017-03-01 19:45:52] rapidtrades : i think so too [2017-03-01 19:45:55] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: HP is awful [2017-03-01 19:46:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `DASH7D`: sell 20 @ 0.032176 [2017-03-01 19:46:10] rapidtrades : i thought it was just wear and tear lol [2017-03-01 19:46:29] rapidtrades : what are good brands? [2017-03-01 19:46:42] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: depends what u want [2017-03-01 19:46:48] Apocalyptic : Lenovo is nice [2017-03-01 19:46:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `DASH7D`: sell 141 @ 0.031942 [2017-03-01 19:46:53] wurstgelee : rapidtrades: get a lenovo T model, T460s or something. [2017-03-01 19:46:56] BTCDJS : apple is the best for normal everyday people. Linux if youre a programmer [2017-03-01 19:47:06] wurstgelee : the cheap retail shit sucks with the thinkpad series is great [2017-03-01 19:47:13] MikeHunt : apple is for women and faggots [2017-03-01 19:47:22] BTCDJS : MikeHunt: Fck you [2017-03-01 19:47:31] wurstgelee : not cheap but ewll worth the money [2017-03-01 19:47:32] MikeHunt : BTCDJS: nothing wrong with being a woman [2017-03-01 19:47:34] MikeHunt : ;) [2017-03-01 19:47:51] rapidtrades : apple too weak performance and way overpriced [2017-03-01 19:47:52] BTCDJS : Apple is the most reliable computer Ive ever owned [2017-03-01 19:48:10] MikeHunt : BTCDJS: cuz its so simple [2017-03-01 19:48:10] wurstgelee : rapidtrades: lenovo t460s, check it [2017-03-01 19:48:11] BTCDJS : weak performance? WRONG [2017-03-01 19:48:16] rapidtrades : have they updated their specs? don't they use 3 year old cpus [2017-03-01 19:48:25] rapidtrades : wurstgelee: ok tnx [2017-03-01 19:48:30] MikeHunt : hackintosh > apple [2017-03-01 19:48:46] men : long closing on dash [2017-03-01 19:49:20] men : take profit on polo [2017-03-01 19:50:12] MikeHunt : some custom laptop brands can be pretty good if u wanna get real power at a decent price [2017-03-01 19:50:36] MikeHunt : usually only serve locals thou [2017-03-01 19:50:54] wurstgelee : MikeHunt: they have a newer model it seems, t470s. i can vouch for t460s tho, few 100s in use and less than a dozen defekts in >1y [2017-03-01 19:50:58] wurstgelee : rapidtrades: [2017-03-01 19:51:02] wurstgelee : not mike [2017-03-01 19:53:20] rapidtrades : specs rly low for 900+ its i5 with intel 520 [2017-03-01 19:53:30] rapidtrades : there' a zenbook with same specs for 700 [2017-03-01 19:53:35] MikeHunt : wurstgelee: internal graphics at that price aint good [2017-03-01 19:53:51] rapidtrades : http://shop.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/thinkpad/t-series/t460s/ [2017-03-01 19:54:05] wurstgelee : MikeHunt: its made for working, not gaming [2017-03-01 19:54:08] Ahhere : Should white wine be cloudy? [2017-03-01 19:54:15] wurstgelee : rapidtrades: yes [2017-03-01 19:54:19] wurstgelee : that one [2017-03-01 19:54:22] MikeHunt : wurstgelee: then buy something cheaper [2017-03-01 19:54:27] wurstgelee : no [2017-03-01 19:54:34] wurstgelee : its perfect for my purposes [2017-03-01 19:54:41] MikeHunt : wurstgelee: why pay over the top? [2017-03-01 19:54:41] rapidtrades : wurstgelee: why pay the premium? [2017-03-01 19:54:45] wurstgelee : i have ps4 if i want gaming [2017-03-01 19:54:58] MikeHunt : why not save the money [2017-03-01 19:55:07] MikeHunt : buy more games for ur gaystation? [2017-03-01 19:55:11] wurstgelee : rapidtrades: extreme solid hardware, reat haptic, lightweight, great display, battery life is 6h+ [2017-03-01 19:55:18] rapidtrades : wurstgelee: wait so ur trading on that one? i5 with 520? [2017-03-01 19:55:24] sleger : rapid are you really going to upgrade, you've been talking about it for a year now [2017-03-01 19:55:24] wurstgelee : and awesome keyboard too [2017-03-01 19:55:28] MikeHunt : wurstgelee: all stuff u can get with cheaper models [2017-03-01 19:55:42] Farzad : /wall [2017-03-01 19:55:45] trollbot : ``` ±$30 Ask|Bid liquidity of 4 exchanges: 5474 Ƀ (0.04%) | 4354 Ƀ (7.08%) SLQ: 3 hours, 30 minutes, 15 seconds``` [2017-03-01 19:55:54] rapidtrades : sleger: yes after ETF is rejected :) [2017-03-01 19:56:03] sleger : lol [2017-03-01 19:56:17] wurstgelee : MikeHunt: so what brand u want recommend for use as a working notebook in company with 80% software devs? [2017-03-01 19:56:17] sleger : we're gonna be talking about new laptop for years now, great... [2017-03-01 19:56:32] wurstgelee : wow lreally bad grammar there [2017-03-01 19:56:33] wurstgelee : lol [2017-03-01 19:56:39] rapidtrades : hope not :) @sleger [2017-03-01 19:56:46] MikeHunt : wurstgelee: i dont buy the whole "working notebook" thing, just marketting gimmick [2017-03-01 19:56:55] MrRGnome : Can you even imagine how unbearable rapidtrades will be with the etf falls through? The gloating will be ceaseless. Reason enough to approve right there imo. [2017-03-01 19:57:07] MikeHunt : wurstgelee: for no-gaming u just need a decent CPU and an SSD, thats it [2017-03-01 19:57:14] BitMEX_Sam : wurstgelee: I see a lot of people with XPS 13/15s now [2017-03-01 19:57:18] BitMEX_Sam : Older MBPrs are good [2017-03-01 19:57:24] wurstgelee : MikeHunt: as a person who is dealing with evaluating and ordering 100s of those, i say its not bullshit [2017-03-01 19:57:27] sleger : DELL or previous gen MBP agreed [2017-03-01 19:57:30] wurstgelee : BitMEX_Sam: those are good too [2017-03-01 19:57:32] wurstgelee : :) [2017-03-01 19:57:43] Ahhere : MrRGnome: they still taking comments ? maybe you should make that case? [2017-03-01 19:57:46] Farzad : BitMEX_Sam: wurstgelee said your grammar is bad. close his account :D [2017-03-01 19:57:54] wurstgelee : Farzad: no, MY grammar [2017-03-01 19:57:59] BitMEX_Sam : wurstgelee: https://slickdeals.net/f/9773359-dell-inspiron-15-7559-touch-4k-gaming-laptop-i7-6700hq-16gb-ddr3l-gtx-960m-800-after-100-slickdeals-rebate-free-s-h [2017-03-01 19:58:11] MikeHunt : wurstgelee: so ur not paying for them? [2017-03-01 19:58:13] BitMEX_Sam : Not a corporate purchase but decent price for the specs without a doubt [2017-03-01 19:58:15] Puffle-Razor-Spark : XBTUSD wall will not be there forever [2017-03-01 19:58:32] wurstgelee : BitMEX_Sam: yes, prob a good retail notebook for people who like gaming too [2017-03-01 19:58:44] BitMEX_Sam : If it's business use I'd go full-integrated [2017-03-01 19:58:49] wurstgelee : i prefer power, and long battery life [2017-03-01 19:58:50] wurstgelee : :) [2017-03-01 19:58:57] BitMEX_Sam : Intel integrated cards are a lot better than they used to be, and switchable graphics is always a headache IMO [2017-03-01 19:59:00] wurstgelee : bseides the usual stuff [2017-03-01 19:59:08] MikeHunt : wurstgelee: so does ur company pay for the laptops or are u paying for it? [2017-03-01 19:59:10] BitMEX_Sam : There's software issues even in OSX/Windows, and in Linux it's just a nightmare [2017-03-01 19:59:24] wurstgelee : i agree with linux, 99% windows users tho [2017-03-01 19:59:25] wurstgelee : ;) [2017-03-01 19:59:33] wurstgelee : no problems there [2017-03-01 20:00:00] wurstgelee : MikeHunt: why would i pay for company laptops? [2017-03-01 20:00:12] BitMEX_Sam : Aren't you a team player? [2017-03-01 20:00:25] wurstgelee : i never said i paid it, i said its a great piece of hardware [2017-03-01 20:00:37] MikeHunt : wurstgelee: well if ur not paying for it there is little incentive to get value for money, ur lucky im not ur boss [2017-03-01 20:00:38] wurstgelee : BitMEX_Sam: hm? [2017-03-01 20:00:50] BitMEX_Sam : Just joking with you... of course you're not paying. [2017-03-01 20:00:53] wurstgelee : MikeHunt: do u even budget? [2017-03-01 20:01:04] BitMEX_Sam : That said, I don't trust Lenovos one nit [2017-03-01 20:01:12] MikeHunt : wurstgelee: whats that supposed to mean? ur buying overpriced laptops [2017-03-01 20:01:16] wurstgelee : its not like u have some boxes with gold in the basement as a company.... [2017-03-01 20:01:29] Apocalyptic : BitMEX_Sam: any particular reason ? [2017-03-01 20:01:31] BitMEX_Sam : *Maybe*, if you wipe the hell out of it beforehand, but they tend to even botch their drivers so badly you can't replace drives, wireless cards, or switch OSs [2017-03-01 20:01:36] wurstgelee : its not like u arre maybe responsible to shareholder too... [2017-03-01 20:01:38] BitMEX_Sam : Superfish for one @Apocalyptic [2017-03-01 20:01:59] wurstgelee : MikeHunt: there re even companies, so i heard, which give u a big paycheck if u stay below ur budget. regarding incentive... [2017-03-01 20:02:13] MikeHunt : wurstgelee: does yours? [2017-03-01 20:02:21] DorianWhack-A-Moto : lenovos had rootkits at one time didn't they? [2017-03-01 20:02:21] wurstgelee : maybe [2017-03-01 20:02:36] BitMEX_Sam : DorianWhack-A-Moto: Yep, of a sort [2017-03-01 20:02:53] wurstgelee : MikeHunt: every company creates incentive to keep costs down...everything else would be stupid [2017-03-01 20:03:00] sleger : alienwares too @DorianWhack-A-Moto [2017-03-01 20:03:04] BitMEX_Sam : wurstgelee: Unless you're gov, of course. [2017-03-01 20:03:14] wurstgelee : BitMEX_Sam: haha, unlike that ofc [2017-03-01 20:03:15] wurstgelee : 8) [2017-03-01 20:03:24] MikeHunt : wurstgelee: well u'd earn more if u bought more value laptops instead [2017-03-01 20:03:28] MikeHunt : if thats the case [2017-03-01 20:03:29] wurstgelee : there u get a penalty for not using up ur budget...usually. less budget next year [2017-03-01 20:03:33] sleger : BitMEX_Sam: any plan to reduce leverage for ETF week ? [2017-03-01 20:03:46] rapidtrades : +1 [2017-03-01 20:03:56] MikeHunt : increase it to 1000x [2017-03-01 20:03:56] hmmmYea : +1 [2017-03-01 20:04:07] MikeHunt : lets have fucking chaos [2017-03-01 20:04:25] Apocalyptic : +1 for reducing leverage [2017-03-01 20:04:36] BitMEX_Sam : sleger: Nothing in the pipe yet but I understand your concern [2017-03-01 20:04:38] BitMEX_Sam : I'll bring it up. [2017-03-01 20:04:41] DorianWhack-A-Moto : we're in ETF week [2017-03-01 20:04:50] MikeHunt : BitMEX_Sam: doesn't it require 14 day notice to change it? [2017-03-01 20:05:05] BitMEX_Sam : MikeHunt: Increasing initial margin is possible to do without disruption [2017-03-01 20:05:08] wurstgelee : MikeHunt: you clearly have no clue about the underlying maths. ill make it simple for you: 1 consultants usually gets sold for around 1000 EUR/day to customers. some more, some less. so each day the consultant cant work, because of broken hardware, is a loss of those 1k. [2017-03-01 20:05:10] wurstgelee : got it? [2017-03-01 20:05:15] sleger : as you can see im not the only one. People would rather keep longer a position on 50x leverage than getting rekt or adl after a 5$ move out of 300. Thanks @BitMEX_Sam [2017-03-01 20:05:27] rapidtrades : lol no [2017-03-01 20:05:28] InvalidUser : Co;in has been getting some action [2017-03-01 20:05:39] wurstgelee : MikeHunt: latops usually last 2 to 3 years [2017-03-01 20:05:43] wurstgelee : the lenovo ones [2017-03-01 20:05:44] MikeHunt : wurstgelee: overpriced != quality [2017-03-01 20:05:45] y1uy : we will see ETHUSD at $19 pretty soon [2017-03-01 20:06:04] wurstgelee : MikeHunt: show me a review which says t460s is bad quality [2017-03-01 20:06:07] wurstgelee : then come back [2017-03-01 20:06:12] rapidtrades : wurstgelee: 2-3 years seems like a bad deal tbh [2017-03-01 20:06:15] MikeHunt : wurstgelee: not bad quality, just overpriced [2017-03-01 20:06:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `FCT7D`: buy 4500 @ 0.002639 [2017-03-01 20:06:26] wurstgelee : MikeHunt: find me a review that states that [2017-03-01 20:06:37] BitMEX_Sam : When you're buying corporate, there are a lot of things that are more important than price [2017-03-01 20:06:40] MikeHunt : wurstgelee: why do i need a review to state that? [2017-03-01 20:06:46] wurstgelee : BitMEX_Sam: yes. [2017-03-01 20:06:48] wurstgelee : ofc [2017-03-01 20:06:50] MikeHunt : wurstgelee: do i need permission? [2017-03-01 20:06:55] BitMEX_Sam : I used to work an office that bought exclusively Dells because they would actually come out and service the things. It was worth it 100%. [2017-03-01 20:07:02] rapidtrades : i just told u its overpriced lol ...there's an asus at 700$ with same specs [2017-03-01 20:07:12] MikeHunt : asus > lenovo [2017-03-01 20:07:18] wurstgelee : 1 day of broken hardware costs ~ 2/3rd of a t460s [2017-03-01 20:07:21] wurstgelee : its that easy [2017-03-01 20:07:24] BitMEX_Sam : And that ASUS might fall apart, it might have to be sent in to service, etc... whole new set of criteria when you're buying for reliability [2017-03-01 20:07:29] wurstgelee : thats how much those costs matter [2017-03-01 20:07:29] MikeHunt : chances are the lenovo has spyware so the chinese are hacking ur company costing u even more money [2017-03-01 20:07:34] wurstgelee : they are fucking peanuts [2017-03-01 20:07:38] BitMEX_Sam : IMO cost is probably the least important part [2017-03-01 20:07:40] wurstgelee : realiability > all [2017-03-01 20:07:46] wurstgelee : reliability [2017-03-01 20:07:49] MikeHunt : its still shit [2017-03-01 20:07:49] wurstgelee : BitMEX_Sam: yes it is [2017-03-01 20:07:52] DorianWhack-A-Moto : pay the premium and get a macbook pro [2017-03-01 20:08:06] MikeHunt : yeh why not be a total fag and buy a mac? [2017-03-01 20:08:06] sleger : last one sucks [2017-03-01 20:08:11] BitMEX_Sam : It's definitely frustrating to see Apple completely drop the ball on that [2017-03-01 20:08:17] Ahhere : DorianWhack-A-Moto: cut to the chase zactly [2017-03-01 20:08:18] BitMEX_Sam : But they clearly understand their market - they're selling like crazy [2017-03-01 20:08:25] wurstgelee : BitMEX_Sam: u can call lenovo support and they send a technician to anwhere in europe within 24h and fix or replace the laptop. [2017-03-01 20:08:31] sleger : MikeHunt: we understand with 70$ it would be hard to buy one, but it doesnt make buyers "fags" [2017-03-01 20:08:31] wurstgelee : thats priceless [2017-03-01 20:08:35] BitMEX_Sam : wurstgelee: Absolutely [2017-03-01 20:08:36] MikeHunt : apple customers are retards, they'll buy anything [2017-03-01 20:08:38] wurstgelee : they fix it on site [2017-03-01 20:09:06] BitMEX_Sam : In a sense you're both right MikeHunt - Apple both makes great laptops, and understands that so many of their customers are retail and will buy anything with the logo on it, especially if it comes in gold [2017-03-01 20:09:08] sleger : apple even provide you with legit geniuses to fix your issues. [2017-03-01 20:09:21] wurstgelee : MikeHunt: so....assume that the majority of consultants is used to work with windows....y buy macs? [2017-03-01 20:09:26] MikeHunt : sleger: i see no reason to buy a mac wen my pc can triple boot linux, osx and win10 [2017-03-01 20:09:28] BitMEX_Sam : What has been angering the pro market the last few months is their shift further into casual retail [2017-03-01 20:09:32] sleger : Einstein was in an apple store before inventing stuff [2017-03-01 20:09:41] rapidtrades : wurstgelee: thats true for businesses only right? [2017-03-01 20:09:59] wurstgelee : rapidtrades: the customer suppoirt part? [2017-03-01 20:10:02] wurstgelee : on site fixing? [2017-03-01 20:10:02] sleger : MikeHunt: you also saw no reason to buy bitcoin at 900 and yet.... [2017-03-01 20:10:05] rapidtrades : yes [2017-03-01 20:10:10] rapidtrades : also so much laaaaag [2017-03-01 20:10:24] Apocalyptic : rapidtrades: 1,2k users [2017-03-01 20:10:31] MikeHunt : wurstgelee: for the customer care i guess, u could run windows over the top of it [2017-03-01 20:10:36] rapidtrades : WHY ARE THEY HERE [2017-03-01 20:10:38] rapidtrades : GO HOME [2017-03-01 20:10:38] sleger : i never have any lag here [2017-03-01 20:10:44] wurstgelee : rapidtrades: u can get it to, its ~ 150 (IIRC!) additonal and u get a prolonged 3y warranty and on site support [2017-03-01 20:10:46] rapidtrades : STOP LAGGING ME [2017-03-01 20:11:01] MikeHunt : sleger: learnt a lot since 900 [2017-03-01 20:11:02] DorianWhack-A-Moto : why is dash still pumping [2017-03-01 20:11:06] DorianWhack-A-Moto : go home dash [2017-03-01 20:11:09] DorianWhack-A-Moto : you're drunk [2017-03-01 20:11:17] sleger : MikeHunt: learn more : MBP are great laptops [2017-03-01 20:11:39] MikeHunt : sleger: not for the price [2017-03-01 20:11:43] DorianWhack-A-Moto : on a 2015 mbp best laptop i've ever owned [2017-03-01 20:11:53] sleger : +1 [2017-03-01 20:12:01] BitMEX_Sam : Big fan of it as well [2017-03-01 20:12:04] BitMEX_Sam : Just wish they did a 32GB version [2017-03-01 20:12:05] sleger : MikeHunt: see dummy [2017-03-01 20:12:28] MikeHunt : just buy similar spec laptop and install osx on it [2017-03-01 20:12:33] MikeHunt : save 1/2 or more price [2017-03-01 20:12:35] BitMEX_Sam : Not that easy [2017-03-01 20:12:42] MikeHunt : well not for apple customers ;) [2017-03-01 20:12:45] sleger : build quality, battery price, screen etc... [2017-03-01 20:12:51] Ahhere : MikeHunt: save a few hundred for a lot of hassle [2017-03-01 20:12:52] wurstgelee : sleger: the t460s is the windows version of a mbp ;) there are quite a lof of tests out there comparing those 2 [2017-03-01 20:13:04] MikeHunt : Ahhere: not that difficult rly [2017-03-01 20:13:18] MikeHunt : wurstgelee: ie: shit and overpriced? [2017-03-01 20:13:30] InvalidUser : https://www.acer.com/ac/en/US/content/predator-series/predator21x [2017-03-01 20:13:38] BitMEX_Sam : Most hackintoshes have incompatibility issues with the gfx & wifi [2017-03-01 20:13:39] MikeHunt : also didnt an iphone7 explode recently? [2017-03-01 20:13:47] sleger : and i doubt its legal to install OSX on your cheap copy [2017-03-01 20:13:50] MikeHunt : BitMEX_Sam: thats why u buy to spec [2017-03-01 20:13:57] MikeHunt : sleger: legal smegal [2017-03-01 20:13:59] wurstgelee : MikeHunt: maybe switch topic to something you understand? trading and hardware dont seem to work for u. :< [2017-03-01 20:14:02] Ahhere : It's like buying IKEA furniture or just buying furniture that is made @MikeHunt [2017-03-01 20:14:02] sleger : if you want to break the law thats one thing, but dont encourage other people to do it [2017-03-01 20:14:15] MikeHunt : wurstgelee: o rly? [2017-03-01 20:14:18] wurstgelee : yep [2017-03-01 20:14:19] wurstgelee : rly [2017-03-01 20:14:22] wurstgelee : i am sorry [2017-03-01 20:14:27] BitMEX_Sam : The Y50 was afaik the most compatible hackintosh laptop ever, and its wifi is broken [2017-03-01 20:14:31] BitMEX_Sam : There's no magic bullet [2017-03-01 20:14:40] sleger : i guess updates also break stuff [2017-03-01 20:14:54] wurstgelee : who is gonna buy the 3310 remake? [2017-03-01 20:14:54] BitMEX_Sam : Worse yet, Lenovo doesn't let you change out the wireless card, you have to patch the BIOS which is difficult/error-prone [2017-03-01 20:14:59] wurstgelee : =) [2017-03-01 20:15:09] MikeHunt : sleger: grey area, who cares [2017-03-01 20:15:10] MikeHunt : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L397TWLwrUU [2017-03-01 20:15:12] sleger : save 300$ spend 24 hours on forums trying to get wifi working again every 3 months, sounds awesome [2017-03-01 20:15:13] DorianWhack-A-Moto : mbp touchpad is the best. cant recreate that on a hackintosh [2017-03-01 20:15:44] MikeHunt : tbh running OSX in a vm seems to work best [2017-03-01 20:16:10] MikeHunt : rather than ruin a good pc/laptop [2017-03-01 20:16:17] wurstgelee : BitMEX_Sam: u can change components @ the T series tho [2017-03-01 20:16:17] MikeHunt : by making it the main OS [2017-03-01 20:16:17] wurstgelee : ;) [2017-03-01 20:17:01] hmmmYea : maybe tick size should be .10 >$1000. order book is so spammy in the perp swap [2017-03-01 20:17:03] wurstgelee : MikeHunt: why would run osx better in a vm compared to dedicated hardware? [2017-03-01 20:17:10] wurstgelee : following what logic? [2017-03-01 20:17:10] sleger : hmmmYea: agreed ! [2017-03-01 20:17:40] MikeHunt : wurstgelee: well generally ur gonna use OSX the least amount possible, its jsut for those OSX only things [2017-03-01 20:17:45] MikeHunt : like xcrap [2017-03-01 20:17:49] MikeHunt : xcode* [2017-03-01 20:17:52] MikeHunt : etc. [2017-03-01 20:17:55] wurstgelee : no, u said it "runs best" [2017-03-01 20:18:00] wurstgelee : not "most convenient" [2017-03-01 20:18:17] MikeHunt : wurstgelee: well thanks for playing office paperclip and ammending my comment then [2017-03-01 20:18:48] hmmmYea : sleger: tick size < 1 basis point only makes sense in very low volatility assets. [2017-03-01 20:18:58] itsyourboy : anyone else getting rekt sitting on an old short? [2017-03-01 20:19:03] itsyourboy : can anyone beat -29% [2017-03-01 20:19:14] wurstgelee : u just reminded me why i never got a dog. its great at first but i got bored of playing ball with u after only a few minutes [2017-03-01 20:19:15] wurstgelee : thanks [2017-03-01 20:19:16] BitMEX_Sam : We've considered it - you can improve performance by turning off animations - click your name at the top right [2017-03-01 20:19:26] sleger : hmmmYea: i've argued for it many months ago already. It is a well understood fact (for pro traders) that avg spread should be 2-5 ticks max . @BitMEX_Sam [2017-03-01 20:19:31] MikeHunt : wurstgelee: wait until u clean up my shit [2017-03-01 20:19:53] wurstgelee : i dont live here, u can shit as much as u want. sam might disagree tho [2017-03-01 20:21:00] wurstgelee : itsyourboy: rapid can :) [2017-03-01 20:21:31] hmmmYea : BitMEX_Sam: the site runs like a dream for me. just the game theory for tiny ticks gets so annoying... hurts liquidity in the end [2017-03-01 20:21:55] sleger : yes front running by 40$ orders is annoying [2017-03-01 20:22:16] wurstgelee : lol [2017-03-01 20:22:16] MikeHunt : wurstgelee: but srsly i dont like apple since jobs died, he was a bit of a cunt but he wouldnt have let bendy iphones happen [2017-03-01 20:22:43] hmmmYea : would leave way more resting orders on the book if i was not guaranteed to get ticked by bots when i was paying attention to other stuff [2017-03-01 20:22:54] sleger : it doesnt bend, if it does you should go to the gym, your ass is too fat @MikeHunt [2017-03-01 20:22:55] wurstgelee : MikeHunt: u are mixing things up. i never vouched for apple. i vouched for the t460s, which is a lenovo model [2017-03-01 20:23:20] sleger : apple t460s, great laptop [2017-03-01 20:23:26] MikeHunt : wurstgelee: overpriced imo [2017-03-01 20:23:30] wurstgelee : lolz [2017-03-01 20:23:44] sleger : MikeHunt: raspberry pi is cheaper [2017-03-01 20:23:47] wurstgelee : yeah, we all understood your opinion by now. an where you pulled it from. ;) [2017-03-01 20:24:03] MikeHunt : sleger: i expect a dedicated gpu for t460 price [2017-03-01 20:24:10] sleger : his iphone-bending ass [2017-03-01 20:24:29] wurstgelee : yes [2017-03-01 20:26:28] -_- : DASH/BTC another ATH [2017-03-01 20:26:53] MikeHunt : wurstgelee: if ur co-workers are getting through laptops every 3 years buy em some Amrels [2017-03-01 20:27:18] wurstgelee : wtf= [2017-03-01 20:27:20] wurstgelee : ? [2017-03-01 20:27:23] wurstgelee : no [2017-03-01 20:28:22] wurstgelee : MikeHunt: price really doesnt matter. 1k$ more or less is no issue. [2017-03-01 20:29:19] wurstgelee : ~ say 1000 days per laptop until retirement, that makes it a lot less than $2 per day [2017-03-01 20:29:45] cryptonoob : any crazies still short right now on BTC? [2017-03-01 20:30:05] wurstgelee : $3 if u also count working days (which doesnt make sense, because empl are allowed to use them privately so they are used 7days/week) [2017-03-01 20:30:11] wurstgelee : *also=only [2017-03-01 20:30:22] wurstgelee : its nothing compared to other costs [2017-03-01 20:30:29] itsyourboy : cryptonoob: yep... [2017-03-01 20:30:43] cryptonoob : itsyourboy: what's your stop loss? [2017-03-01 20:31:00] -_- : cryptonoob: yeah. shorted the double top [2017-03-01 20:31:16] MikeHunt : wurstgelee: no gpu means no gaming, ur company must b like one from movie Office Space [2017-03-01 20:31:21] itsyourboy : cryptonoob: i made a rookie error and didnt set one [2017-03-01 20:32:34] OaktreeCapital : Sup bitches [2017-03-01 20:36:16] BTCDJS : OaktreeCapital: hey sleger [2017-03-01 20:37:43] sleger : hmmm no [2017-03-01 20:39:11] BTCDJS : Yeah not your style actually [2017-03-01 20:41:34] abbey : soon [2017-03-01 20:47:21] men : problem on dash book [2017-03-01 20:47:40] wurstgelee : seems fine to me [2017-03-01 20:47:42] wurstgelee : lol [2017-03-01 20:47:50] wurstgelee : i wouldnt want to buy here either [2017-03-01 20:47:51] wurstgelee : :D [2017-03-01 20:48:13] men : now seems better .. order were confused 20 sec ago [2017-03-01 20:48:57] wurstgelee : order confusion is a serious issue [2017-03-01 20:50:28] men : yes orders were confused [2017-03-01 20:51:11] men : sell orders were from the biggest to the lowest xD inverted [2017-03-01 20:57:06] mtourig3 : https://cryptowat.ch/bitflyer/btcfxjpy/30m [2017-03-01 20:57:10] mtourig3 : is JPY @ 1281? [2017-03-01 20:57:20] mtourig3 : https://www.google.ca/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=145589+JPY+to+USD&* [2017-03-01 20:59:34] sleger : 1275 [2017-03-01 20:59:45] prueba : I'm trying to understand fees from bitmex swap. Can someone from the staff help me? [2017-03-01 20:59:58] BitMEX_Greg : prueba: Hi whats up [2017-03-01 21:00:04] rapidtrades : lol fake jap pumps no longer taken srsly [2017-03-01 21:00:17] sleger : it will drag the price up [2017-03-01 21:00:23] j8 : bitflyer FX is close to 2% higher than the bitflyer spot and quoine spot [2017-03-01 21:00:24] sleger : japanese ETF approved [2017-03-01 21:00:36] odieoh : What are the japanese exchanges? [2017-03-01 21:00:55] MikeHunt : odieoh: quoine and bitflyer [2017-03-01 21:00:58] sleger : sushi.jp and sashimi.jp [2017-03-01 21:01:17] odieoh : those are some delicious exchanges. Thanks @mikehunt [2017-03-01 21:02:28] amaru : californiaroll.jp [2017-03-01 21:02:44] sleger : the one for poor people [2017-03-01 21:02:52] amaru : lol [2017-03-01 21:03:31] prueba : if i understand correctly there are two tippes of fee one for trade and the other just for having an order on the market (order book) correct? [2017-03-01 21:03:59] sleger : yes [2017-03-01 21:04:04] wurstgelee : sleger: lol [2017-03-01 21:04:10] wurstgelee : n1 [2017-03-01 21:05:14] MikeHunt : banzai.jp has 1000x lvg [2017-03-01 21:05:18] zaico : BitMEX_Greg: if i understand correctly there are two tippes of fee one for trade and the other just for having an order on the market (order book) correct? [2017-03-01 21:05:35] REKT : Liquidated short on `DASH7D`: buy 1000 @ 0.033299 [2017-03-01 21:06:16] amaru : cant believe i live in a world where dash is #3 [2017-03-01 21:06:31] REKT : Liquidated short on `DASH7D`: buy 3 @ 0.033408 [2017-03-01 21:06:51] wurstgelee : amaru: hehe [2017-03-01 21:06:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 1000 @ 1220.31 [2017-03-01 21:07:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 11 @ 1219.81 [2017-03-01 21:08:08] wurstgelee : finally rapidtrades went long and gets immediately liquidated [2017-03-01 21:08:11] wurstgelee : the tragedy [2017-03-01 21:08:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `DASH7D`: buy 1606 @ 0.033539 [2017-03-01 21:11:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 1000 @ 1251.65 [2017-03-01 21:11:22] rapidtrades : wurstgelee: still short, suck it german [2017-03-01 21:12:35] REKT : Liquidated short on `DASH7D`: buy 50 @ 0.033773 [2017-03-01 21:13:06] herpinator : I wish there as a way to save a custom layout [2017-03-01 21:14:55] -_- : big LTC buy on poloniex [2017-03-01 21:15:20] -_- : DASH almost doubled in a week [2017-03-01 21:16:00] rapidtrades : are we double topping? looks like we're doub;e topping [2017-03-01 21:17:36] rapidtrades : lol this place gets so quiet whenever we drop $5 [2017-03-01 21:17:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `DASH7D`: buy 16 @ 0.034054 [2017-03-01 21:17:55] rapidtrades : u were all chatty catties 30 mins ago [2017-03-01 21:18:01] ross : rapidtrades: going to 880 again [2017-03-01 21:18:07] men : nigerian prince buying dash [2017-03-01 21:18:35] REKT : Liquidated short on `DASH7D`: buy 700 @ 0.034162 [2017-03-01 21:19:12] ubba : guys was there some announcement today? [2017-03-01 21:19:22] men : only 18k dash to sell on polo [2017-03-01 21:19:28] BitMEX_Greg : zaico: @prueba There is a fee for opening and closing a position. Then there is a funding every 8 hours either paid or received [2017-03-01 21:21:06] Coconuter : ubba gooding jr. [2017-03-01 21:21:11] ubba : will bitmex have virtual reality support soon? [2017-03-01 21:21:15] BTCDJS : lol @ chatty catties [2017-03-01 21:21:52] wurstgelee : BitMEX_Greg: or no funding ;) [2017-03-01 21:22:02] wurstgelee : 0% [2017-03-01 21:22:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `DASH7D`: buy 1500 @ 0.034403 [2017-03-01 21:22:26] ubba : lol dash [2017-03-01 21:22:34] zaico : BitMEX_Greg: the funding is for both who have active orders and does who only have orders not active at the orderbook correct? [2017-03-01 21:23:02] BitMEX_Greg : zaico: Funding is based on your position. Not your open orders [2017-03-01 21:24:21] wurstgelee : ubba: lol indeed. [2017-03-01 21:25:00] -_- : looks like DASH top. you suckers can short again [2017-03-01 21:25:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `DASH7D`: buy 4 @ 0.034524 [2017-03-01 21:25:54] -_- : looks like ETH/BTC about to blow the lid off of that 0.0135 high [2017-03-01 21:26:00] wurstgelee : -_-: not blow-off toppy enough for my taste [2017-03-01 21:26:28] wurstgelee : @ dash [2017-03-01 21:26:52] odieoh : Funding is for me to take from you [2017-03-01 21:27:11] wurstgelee : if u are shorting, u can have it [2017-03-01 21:27:12] wurstgelee : its fine [2017-03-01 21:27:20] odieoh : I am bothing [2017-03-01 21:27:41] odieoh : Shlonging? [2017-03-01 21:27:50] odieoh : I'm going with that