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[2017-03-01 19:24:03] wurstgelee : j8: yep ;)
[2017-03-01 19:24:03] Brazilian Goat : /joke
[2017-03-01 19:24:04] trollbot : ``` What will the secret service yell when something is hurtling towards the president? Donald duck!```
[2017-03-01 19:24:25] Brazilian Goat : /joke
[2017-03-01 19:24:26] trollbot : ``` Have you ever danced with the devil in the pale La La Land? Edit: *Moonlight. My bad. ```
[2017-03-01 19:24:31] wurstgelee : j8: its not easy to sell ur short from 800 as a winner ;)
[2017-03-01 19:24:36] wurstgelee : he is trying tho, i give him that
[2017-03-01 19:24:54] Brazilian Goat : Lol
[2017-03-01 19:25:18] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: Got to hand it to ya. So many plebs come on here and switch sides hoping to get on the right side everytime they see a red candle they panic and switch again prolly losing more in the end. But you picked your position and you stay with it like a man. no matter what they say. not even if we break ATH
[2017-03-01 19:25:23] j8 : hey maybe he's right, then all it is is a bad entry
[2017-03-01 19:25:56] wurstgelee : BTCDJS: he has some consistency in losing
[2017-03-01 19:25:57] wurstgelee : true
[2017-03-01 19:25:57] MikeHunt : holding a short for ages is torture
[2017-03-01 19:26:08] MikeHunt : wen ur loosing
[2017-03-01 19:26:26] wurstgelee : rapid is into s&m
[2017-03-01 19:26:28] wurstgelee : bigly
[2017-03-01 19:26:32] wurstgelee : the "m" part obv
[2017-03-01 19:27:12] BTCDJS : wurstgelee: he's called bear market early a few times. But he's there in the bull runs. Ive known him be long and stay long without exiting until the top was reached
[2017-03-01 19:27:27] BTCDJS : wurstgelee: Hes not constantly losing
[2017-03-01 19:27:44] wurstgelee : i am only refering to $800 till now
[2017-03-01 19:28:26] BTCDJS : wurstgelee: Don't forget he shorted swap and he's getting funding. If he shorted march he would be fucked bigly
[2017-03-01 19:28:35] rapidtrades : like i said, it was only a bad trade in hindsight...i suspect there's a lot behind the scenes we don't yet know about
[2017-03-01 19:28:52] indelibleTrade : Etc has a nice boner today
[2017-03-01 19:28:56] rapidtrades : the painfully slow rally should worry the bulls
[2017-03-01 19:29:15] wurstgelee : its not painful if u are long, only if u are short
[2017-03-01 19:29:23] MikeHunt : wurstgelee: i shorted march, had i done what rapid did it'd still be alive
[2017-03-01 19:29:53] BTCDJS : We made three drives and were bullish for 2 years. I can see where you're coming from @rapidtrades But I've learned from this. ONLY SHORT IF THE TREND IS BROKEN
[2017-03-01 19:30:03] wurstgelee : MikeHunt: you can call it what you want, being short since $800 is plain stupid.
[2017-03-01 19:30:06] Puffle-Razor-Spark : rapidtrades: lol, do you have a life?
[2017-03-01 19:30:28] MikeHunt : wurstgelee: yeh, an expensive lesson, i was short from ~$900
[2017-03-01 19:30:37] sleger : MikeHunt: u dead ?
[2017-03-01 19:30:58] MikeHunt : sleger: my short got KO-ed a while back, playing with what little have left
[2017-03-01 19:31:04] sleger : does that count as an exit ? I'm confused
[2017-03-01 19:31:13] wurstgelee : lol, me 2
[2017-03-01 19:31:14] sleger : you would still be short though ?
[2017-03-01 19:31:18] -_- : MikeHunt: got rekt
[2017-03-01 19:31:19] sleger : if you could
[2017-03-01 19:31:23] -_- : he has $40 left
[2017-03-01 19:31:33] MikeHunt : -_-: $70*
[2017-03-01 19:31:37] wurstgelee : so instead of 100% rekt u are only 99% rekt thanks to rapidtrades?
[2017-03-01 19:31:42] mahouni : Too much hype im looking in to opening short position in few days
[2017-03-01 19:31:43] sleger : all good then you can make it back
[2017-03-01 19:31:45] wurstgelee : is that what you are saying
[2017-03-01 19:31:47] -_- : 100x short and be back to $700 soon
[2017-03-01 19:31:48] wurstgelee : ?
[2017-03-01 19:32:04] -_- : then long the bottom and have 2 btc after the bounce
[2017-03-01 19:32:14] MikeHunt : im longing eth on tops and longing btc on dips
[2017-03-01 19:32:29] rapidtrades : the only way im getting rekt is by etf acceptance, which will not happen
[2017-03-01 19:33:01] rustiv : rapidtrades: never say never -Justin Bieber
[2017-03-01 19:33:08] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: ur on spot so even if it does get accepted u wont get blown up imo
[2017-03-01 19:33:08] MrRGnome : rapidtrades: I'm very excited for that rekt.
[2017-03-01 19:33:13] wurstgelee : rapidtrades: so ur chance of rekt is the chance of etf approval?
[2017-03-01 19:33:14] wurstgelee : wow
[2017-03-01 19:33:28] wurstgelee : thats a stupid position u maneuvered urself into
[2017-03-01 19:33:34] sleger : thats a 50/50 gamble
[2017-03-01 19:33:37] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: I don't think ETF will bring price bellow 800 if 2014 - 2017 is actually consolidation
[2017-03-01 19:33:37] wurstgelee : yep
[2017-03-01 19:33:38] j8 : still lots of time to pump before the news
[2017-03-01 19:33:54] sleger : rapidtrades: and if you get rekt you are down 100% of your trading capital ?
[2017-03-01 19:33:54] wurstgelee : rapidtrades: u playing head or tails and call igh lev longs stupid?
[2017-03-01 19:33:57] wurstgelee : lol
[2017-03-01 19:33:57] MikeHunt : i think we'll see $400s if it fails ;)
[2017-03-01 19:34:04] rapidtrades : its only 50/50 for the gullible
[2017-03-01 19:34:05] sleger : MikeHunt: or 80k
[2017-03-01 19:34:15] sleger : rapidtrades: i think 50/50 is a fair price
[2017-03-01 19:34:19] MikeHunt : sleger: 80k (cny) if etf approved ;)
[2017-03-01 19:34:27] sleger : i doubt it
[2017-03-01 19:34:36] rapidtrades : well ur an ETH investor too soo @sleger
[2017-03-01 19:34:39] wurstgelee : rapidtrades: grats, u put ur fate in the hands of the SEC. didnt know thats what clever traders do. are you sure u do risk warehousing right?
[2017-03-01 19:34:47] sleger : rapidtrades: up 100k$ on eth alone
[2017-03-01 19:35:02] rapidtrades : after u dumped 1 mil into it?
[2017-03-01 19:35:07] sleger : 250k
[2017-03-01 19:35:20] wurstgelee : rapidtrades: u recall eth ico price?
[2017-03-01 19:35:26] -_- : 30 cents
[2017-03-01 19:35:28] Apocalyptic : not bad, what timeframe sleger ?
[2017-03-01 19:35:31] sleger : i wasnt in the ico though
[2017-03-01 19:35:42] rapidtrades : ur IQ < ur bank account @sleger
[2017-03-01 19:35:44] Puffle-Razor-Spark : wurstgelee: 1300ETH/BTC
[2017-03-01 19:35:45] wurstgelee : sleger: if not confidential, where did u buy in?
[2017-03-01 19:35:45] -_- : eth was like 41 cents on exchanges
[2017-03-01 19:35:47] BTCDJS : I just missed it
[2017-03-01 19:35:47] sleger : i bought after dao hack and on the way down
[2017-03-01 19:35:57] wurstgelee : sleger: oh right, i recall that
[2017-03-01 19:36:01] MrRGnome : I almost lost my ass on eth crash, had to trade my tits off to come out positive
[2017-03-01 19:36:07] wurstgelee : u were buying heaps and got a lot of shit for that
[2017-03-01 19:36:11] wurstgelee : here
[2017-03-01 19:36:24] MikeHunt : i think if btc freefalls then eth will join it like ltc did back in 2014
[2017-03-01 19:36:33] -_- : no
[2017-03-01 19:36:33] Bitcoin_N_Robin : what kind of trailing stop $ amount you guys use?
[2017-03-01 19:36:39] -_- : btc does not equal eth
[2017-03-01 19:36:47] -_- : unlike ltc which took a whole afternoon to create
[2017-03-01 19:36:50] BTCDJS : Im buying ETH dips fosho all the way
[2017-03-01 19:36:52] sleger : Bitcoin_N_Robin: 2000000$
[2017-03-01 19:36:59] wurstgelee : MrRGnome: happened to see the first tweets early, was able to fomo short a few k eth into some bigger order ;)
[2017-03-01 19:37:07] Papou : why dont we consolidate at 1000? why do they keep pumping this and not at least want to buy a bit lower
[2017-03-01 19:37:13] wurstgelee : nice payday that was
[2017-03-01 19:37:22] -_- : Papou: some ETF insiders are buying
[2017-03-01 19:37:32] Papou : etf isnt passing dude
[2017-03-01 19:37:34] -_- : they need to hold a certain amount of BTC before the approval
[2017-03-01 19:37:38] Papou : it would have already
[2017-03-01 19:37:39] MikeHunt : Papou: drop it real hard on etf fail ?
[2017-03-01 19:37:43] rapidtrades : Papou: cos they know ETF will be rejected
[2017-03-01 19:37:47] Papou : they probably got paid to delay it under the table
[2017-03-01 19:37:51] Papou : so they can make fomo hype
[2017-03-01 19:38:05] Papou : etf fails im afraid we will touch 500
[2017-03-01 19:38:06] -_- : OTC markets dried up. exchanges running low on sellers
[2017-03-01 19:38:10] -_- : it all makes sense
[2017-03-01 19:38:19] -_- : localbitcoins record volume
[2017-03-01 19:38:20] rapidtrades : ppl thinking ETF has 50% shot are drinking their own coolaid
[2017-03-01 19:38:22] -_- : the hype is real
[2017-03-01 19:38:37] MikeHunt : that'd be funny, hit gox ath on all exchanges then denied... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKOjV-wtpPc&t=29s
[2017-03-01 19:38:51] rapidtrades : if the hype is real, then why are we only up 1% in 6 days?
[2017-03-01 19:39:04] sleger : MikeHunt: that would be funny if you still had money to play
[2017-03-01 19:39:13] -_- : manipulation to keep the price down
[2017-03-01 19:39:16] Papou : china top traders are dumping into the pump
[2017-03-01 19:39:20] Papou : so they know something
[2017-03-01 19:39:24] sleger : rapidtrades: why pick 6 days ?
[2017-03-01 19:39:35] rapidtrades : to prove my point dummy
[2017-03-01 19:39:42] Papou : whoever sells at these levels has a lot of capital and profits to open market sells and dump this back down and make money on thre reverse
[2017-03-01 19:39:56] sleger : rapidtrades: thats what i thought
[2017-03-01 19:40:06] rapidtrades : :)
[2017-03-01 19:40:40] sleger : also bitcoin has never really been more than 3$ above its ATH, sad
[2017-03-01 19:40:43] MikeHunt : sleger: i can make it back, and by time it settled i'd be able to buy in for next bull run
[2017-03-01 19:40:59] sleger : MikeHunt: from 70$ to ?
[2017-03-01 19:41:26] MikeHunt : sleger: at the moment im less concerned about overall $ amount but making sure majority of trades are profitable
[2017-03-01 19:41:58] sleger : having 80% of profitable trades is easy, doesnt mean you will make money
[2017-03-01 19:42:15] sleger : you can even achieve that at the casino btw
[2017-03-01 19:42:17] rapidtrades : just ask sausage, he knows
[2017-03-01 19:42:24] MikeHunt : sleger: profit = making money?
[2017-03-01 19:42:57] GTmann : semantics get tricky
[2017-03-01 19:43:01] sleger : if you make 9 times 1$ but lose 1 time 20$ = 90% of trades in profit != making money
[2017-03-01 19:43:04] sleger : MikeHunt:
[2017-03-01 19:43:07] sleger : dummy
[2017-03-01 19:43:10] Apocalyptic : MikeHunt: you canhave profit on 9 from 10 trades and still lose money overall
[2017-03-01 19:43:29] rapidtrades : no need for name calling guys
[2017-03-01 19:43:30] MikeHunt : sleger: well i mean overall profitable, no what u said
[2017-03-01 19:43:39] rapidtrades : so emotional here
[2017-03-01 19:43:44] Rado : name calling is great
[2017-03-01 19:44:03] sleger : Rado: he's used to it
[2017-03-01 19:44:11] Rado : yeah
[2017-03-01 19:44:56] rapidtrades : why does this get bad reviews https://www.amazon.com/HP-Convertible-15-6-Inch-Touchscreen-Bluetooth/dp/B01N1GJN53/
[2017-03-01 19:45:03] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: HP
[2017-03-01 19:45:20] wurstgelee : that
[2017-03-01 19:45:36] rapidtrades : is HP a bad brand? my laptop is hp
[2017-03-01 19:45:43] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: u have a bad laptop
[2017-03-01 19:45:52] rapidtrades : i think so too
[2017-03-01 19:45:55] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: HP is awful
[2017-03-01 19:46:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `DASH7D`: sell 20 @ 0.032176
[2017-03-01 19:46:10] rapidtrades : i thought it was just wear and tear lol
[2017-03-01 19:46:29] rapidtrades : what are good brands?
[2017-03-01 19:46:42] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: depends what u want
[2017-03-01 19:46:48] Apocalyptic : Lenovo is nice
[2017-03-01 19:46:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `DASH7D`: sell 141 @ 0.031942
[2017-03-01 19:46:53] wurstgelee : rapidtrades: get a lenovo T model, T460s or something.
[2017-03-01 19:46:56] BTCDJS : apple is the best for normal everyday people. Linux if youre a programmer
[2017-03-01 19:47:06] wurstgelee : the cheap retail shit sucks with the thinkpad series is great
[2017-03-01 19:47:13] MikeHunt : apple is for women and faggots
[2017-03-01 19:47:22] BTCDJS : MikeHunt: Fck you
[2017-03-01 19:47:31] wurstgelee : not cheap but ewll worth the money
[2017-03-01 19:47:32] MikeHunt : BTCDJS: nothing wrong with being a woman
[2017-03-01 19:47:34] MikeHunt : ;)
[2017-03-01 19:47:51] rapidtrades : apple too weak performance and way overpriced
[2017-03-01 19:47:52] BTCDJS : Apple is the most reliable computer Ive ever owned
[2017-03-01 19:48:10] MikeHunt : BTCDJS: cuz its so simple
[2017-03-01 19:48:10] wurstgelee : rapidtrades: lenovo t460s, check it
[2017-03-01 19:48:11] BTCDJS : weak performance? WRONG
[2017-03-01 19:48:16] rapidtrades : have they updated their specs? don't they use 3 year old cpus
[2017-03-01 19:48:25] rapidtrades : wurstgelee: ok tnx
[2017-03-01 19:48:30] MikeHunt : hackintosh > apple
[2017-03-01 19:48:46] men : long closing on dash
[2017-03-01 19:49:20] men : take profit on polo
[2017-03-01 19:50:12] MikeHunt : some custom laptop brands can be pretty good if u wanna get real power at a decent price
[2017-03-01 19:50:36] MikeHunt : usually only serve locals thou
[2017-03-01 19:50:54] wurstgelee : MikeHunt: they have a newer model it seems, t470s. i can vouch for t460s tho, few 100s in use and less than a dozen defekts in >1y
[2017-03-01 19:50:58] wurstgelee : rapidtrades:
[2017-03-01 19:51:02] wurstgelee : not mike
[2017-03-01 19:53:20] rapidtrades : specs rly low for 900+ its i5 with intel 520
[2017-03-01 19:53:30] rapidtrades : there' a zenbook with same specs for 700
[2017-03-01 19:53:35] MikeHunt : wurstgelee: internal graphics at that price aint good
[2017-03-01 19:53:51] rapidtrades : http://shop.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/thinkpad/t-series/t460s/
[2017-03-01 19:54:05] wurstgelee : MikeHunt: its made for working, not gaming
[2017-03-01 19:54:08] Ahhere : Should white wine be cloudy?
[2017-03-01 19:54:15] wurstgelee : rapidtrades: yes
[2017-03-01 19:54:19] wurstgelee : that one
[2017-03-01 19:54:22] MikeHunt : wurstgelee: then buy something cheaper
[2017-03-01 19:54:27] wurstgelee : no
[2017-03-01 19:54:34] wurstgelee : its perfect for my purposes
[2017-03-01 19:54:41] MikeHunt : wurstgelee: why pay over the top?
[2017-03-01 19:54:41] rapidtrades : wurstgelee: why pay the premium?
[2017-03-01 19:54:45] wurstgelee : i have ps4 if i want gaming
[2017-03-01 19:54:58] MikeHunt : why not save the money
[2017-03-01 19:55:07] MikeHunt : buy more games for ur gaystation?
[2017-03-01 19:55:11] wurstgelee : rapidtrades: extreme solid hardware, reat haptic, lightweight, great display, battery life is 6h+
[2017-03-01 19:55:18] rapidtrades : wurstgelee: wait so ur trading on that one? i5 with 520?
[2017-03-01 19:55:24] sleger : rapid are you really going to upgrade, you've been talking about it for a year now
[2017-03-01 19:55:24] wurstgelee : and awesome keyboard too
[2017-03-01 19:55:28] MikeHunt : wurstgelee: all stuff u can get with cheaper models
[2017-03-01 19:55:42] Farzad : /wall
[2017-03-01 19:55:45] trollbot : ``` ±$30 Ask|Bid liquidity of 4 exchanges: 5474 Ƀ (0.04%) | 4354 Ƀ (7.08%) SLQ: 3 hours, 30 minutes, 15 seconds```
[2017-03-01 19:55:54] rapidtrades : sleger: yes after ETF is rejected :)
[2017-03-01 19:56:03] sleger : lol
[2017-03-01 19:56:17] wurstgelee : MikeHunt: so what brand u want recommend for use as a working notebook in company with 80% software devs?
[2017-03-01 19:56:17] sleger : we're gonna be talking about new laptop for years now, great...
[2017-03-01 19:56:32] wurstgelee : wow lreally bad grammar there
[2017-03-01 19:56:33] wurstgelee : lol
[2017-03-01 19:56:39] rapidtrades : hope not :) @sleger
[2017-03-01 19:56:46] MikeHunt : wurstgelee: i dont buy the whole "working notebook" thing, just marketting gimmick
[2017-03-01 19:56:55] MrRGnome : Can you even imagine how unbearable rapidtrades will be with the etf falls through? The gloating will be ceaseless. Reason enough to approve right there imo.
[2017-03-01 19:57:07] MikeHunt : wurstgelee: for no-gaming u just need a decent CPU and an SSD, thats it
[2017-03-01 19:57:14] BitMEX_Sam : wurstgelee: I see a lot of people with XPS 13/15s now
[2017-03-01 19:57:18] BitMEX_Sam : Older MBPrs are good
[2017-03-01 19:57:24] wurstgelee : MikeHunt: as a person who is dealing with evaluating and ordering 100s of those, i say its not bullshit
[2017-03-01 19:57:27] sleger : DELL or previous gen MBP agreed
[2017-03-01 19:57:30] wurstgelee : BitMEX_Sam: those are good too
[2017-03-01 19:57:32] wurstgelee : :)
[2017-03-01 19:57:43] Ahhere : MrRGnome: they still taking comments ? maybe you should make that case?
[2017-03-01 19:57:46] Farzad : BitMEX_Sam: wurstgelee said your grammar is bad. close his account :D
[2017-03-01 19:57:54] wurstgelee : Farzad: no, MY grammar
[2017-03-01 19:57:59] BitMEX_Sam : wurstgelee: https://slickdeals.net/f/9773359-dell-inspiron-15-7559-touch-4k-gaming-laptop-i7-6700hq-16gb-ddr3l-gtx-960m-800-after-100-slickdeals-rebate-free-s-h
[2017-03-01 19:58:11] MikeHunt : wurstgelee: so ur not paying for them?
[2017-03-01 19:58:13] BitMEX_Sam : Not a corporate purchase but decent price for the specs without a doubt
[2017-03-01 19:58:15] Puffle-Razor-Spark : XBTUSD wall will not be there forever
[2017-03-01 19:58:32] wurstgelee : BitMEX_Sam: yes, prob a good retail notebook for people who like gaming too
[2017-03-01 19:58:44] BitMEX_Sam : If it's business use I'd go full-integrated
[2017-03-01 19:58:49] wurstgelee : i prefer power, and long battery life
[2017-03-01 19:58:50] wurstgelee : :)
[2017-03-01 19:58:57] BitMEX_Sam : Intel integrated cards are a lot better than they used to be, and switchable graphics is always a headache IMO
[2017-03-01 19:59:00] wurstgelee : bseides the usual stuff
[2017-03-01 19:59:08] MikeHunt : wurstgelee: so does ur company pay for the laptops or are u paying for it?
[2017-03-01 19:59:10] BitMEX_Sam : There's software issues even in OSX/Windows, and in Linux it's just a nightmare
[2017-03-01 19:59:24] wurstgelee : i agree with linux, 99% windows users tho
[2017-03-01 19:59:25] wurstgelee : ;)
[2017-03-01 19:59:33] wurstgelee : no problems there
[2017-03-01 20:00:00] wurstgelee : MikeHunt: why would i pay for company laptops?
[2017-03-01 20:00:12] BitMEX_Sam : Aren't you a team player?
[2017-03-01 20:00:25] wurstgelee : i never said i paid it, i said its a great piece of hardware
[2017-03-01 20:00:37] MikeHunt : wurstgelee: well if ur not paying for it there is little incentive to get value for money, ur lucky im not ur boss
[2017-03-01 20:00:38] wurstgelee : BitMEX_Sam: hm?
[2017-03-01 20:00:50] BitMEX_Sam : Just joking with you... of course you're not paying.
[2017-03-01 20:00:53] wurstgelee : MikeHunt: do u even budget?
[2017-03-01 20:01:04] BitMEX_Sam : That said, I don't trust Lenovos one nit
[2017-03-01 20:01:12] MikeHunt : wurstgelee: whats that supposed to mean? ur buying overpriced laptops
[2017-03-01 20:01:16] wurstgelee : its not like u have some boxes with gold in the basement as a company....
[2017-03-01 20:01:29] Apocalyptic : BitMEX_Sam: any particular reason ?
[2017-03-01 20:01:31] BitMEX_Sam : *Maybe*, if you wipe the hell out of it beforehand, but they tend to even botch their drivers so badly you can't replace drives, wireless cards, or switch OSs
[2017-03-01 20:01:36] wurstgelee : its not like u arre maybe responsible to shareholder too...
[2017-03-01 20:01:38] BitMEX_Sam : Superfish for one @Apocalyptic
[2017-03-01 20:01:59] wurstgelee : MikeHunt: there re even companies, so i heard, which give u a big paycheck if u stay below ur budget. regarding incentive...
[2017-03-01 20:02:13] MikeHunt : wurstgelee: does yours?
[2017-03-01 20:02:21] DorianWhack-A-Moto : lenovos had rootkits at one time didn't they?
[2017-03-01 20:02:21] wurstgelee : maybe
[2017-03-01 20:02:36] BitMEX_Sam : DorianWhack-A-Moto: Yep, of a sort
[2017-03-01 20:02:53] wurstgelee : MikeHunt: every company creates incentive to keep costs down...everything else would be stupid
[2017-03-01 20:03:00] sleger : alienwares too @DorianWhack-A-Moto
[2017-03-01 20:03:04] BitMEX_Sam : wurstgelee: Unless you're gov, of course.
[2017-03-01 20:03:14] wurstgelee : BitMEX_Sam: haha, unlike that ofc
[2017-03-01 20:03:15] wurstgelee : 8)
[2017-03-01 20:03:24] MikeHunt : wurstgelee: well u'd earn more if u bought more value laptops instead
[2017-03-01 20:03:28] MikeHunt : if thats the case
[2017-03-01 20:03:29] wurstgelee : there u get a penalty for not using up ur budget...usually. less budget next year
[2017-03-01 20:03:33] sleger : BitMEX_Sam: any plan to reduce leverage for ETF week ?
[2017-03-01 20:03:46] rapidtrades : +1
[2017-03-01 20:03:56] MikeHunt : increase it to 1000x
[2017-03-01 20:03:56] hmmmYea : +1
[2017-03-01 20:04:07] MikeHunt : lets have fucking chaos
[2017-03-01 20:04:25] Apocalyptic : +1 for reducing leverage
[2017-03-01 20:04:36] BitMEX_Sam : sleger: Nothing in the pipe yet but I understand your concern
[2017-03-01 20:04:38] BitMEX_Sam : I'll bring it up.
[2017-03-01 20:04:41] DorianWhack-A-Moto : we're in ETF week
[2017-03-01 20:04:50] MikeHunt : BitMEX_Sam: doesn't it require 14 day notice to change it?
[2017-03-01 20:05:05] BitMEX_Sam : MikeHunt: Increasing initial margin is possible to do without disruption
[2017-03-01 20:05:08] wurstgelee : MikeHunt: you clearly have no clue about the underlying maths. ill make it simple for you: 1 consultants usually gets sold for around 1000 EUR/day to customers. some more, some less. so each day the consultant cant work, because of broken hardware, is a loss of those 1k.
[2017-03-01 20:05:10] wurstgelee : got it?
[2017-03-01 20:05:15] sleger : as you can see im not the only one. People would rather keep longer a position on 50x leverage than getting rekt or adl after a 5$ move out of 300. Thanks @BitMEX_Sam
[2017-03-01 20:05:27] rapidtrades : lol no
[2017-03-01 20:05:28] InvalidUser : Co;in has been getting some action
[2017-03-01 20:05:39] wurstgelee : MikeHunt: latops usually last 2 to 3 years
[2017-03-01 20:05:43] wurstgelee : the lenovo ones
[2017-03-01 20:05:44] MikeHunt : wurstgelee: overpriced != quality
[2017-03-01 20:05:45] y1uy : we will see ETHUSD at $19 pretty soon
[2017-03-01 20:06:04] wurstgelee : MikeHunt: show me a review which says t460s is bad quality
[2017-03-01 20:06:07] wurstgelee : then come back
[2017-03-01 20:06:12] rapidtrades : wurstgelee: 2-3 years seems like a bad deal tbh
[2017-03-01 20:06:15] MikeHunt : wurstgelee: not bad quality, just overpriced
[2017-03-01 20:06:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `FCT7D`: buy 4500 @ 0.002639
[2017-03-01 20:06:26] wurstgelee : MikeHunt: find me a review that states that
[2017-03-01 20:06:37] BitMEX_Sam : When you're buying corporate, there are a lot of things that are more important than price
[2017-03-01 20:06:40] MikeHunt : wurstgelee: why do i need a review to state that?
[2017-03-01 20:06:46] wurstgelee : BitMEX_Sam: yes.
[2017-03-01 20:06:48] wurstgelee : ofc
[2017-03-01 20:06:50] MikeHunt : wurstgelee: do i need permission?
[2017-03-01 20:06:55] BitMEX_Sam : I used to work an office that bought exclusively Dells because they would actually come out and service the things. It was worth it 100%.
[2017-03-01 20:07:02] rapidtrades : i just told u its overpriced lol ...there's an asus at 700$ with same specs
[2017-03-01 20:07:12] MikeHunt : asus > lenovo
[2017-03-01 20:07:18] wurstgelee : 1 day of broken hardware costs ~ 2/3rd of a t460s
[2017-03-01 20:07:21] wurstgelee : its that easy
[2017-03-01 20:07:24] BitMEX_Sam : And that ASUS might fall apart, it might have to be sent in to service, etc... whole new set of criteria when you're buying for reliability
[2017-03-01 20:07:29] wurstgelee : thats how much those costs matter
[2017-03-01 20:07:29] MikeHunt : chances are the lenovo has spyware so the chinese are hacking ur company costing u even more money
[2017-03-01 20:07:34] wurstgelee : they are fucking peanuts
[2017-03-01 20:07:38] BitMEX_Sam : IMO cost is probably the least important part
[2017-03-01 20:07:40] wurstgelee : realiability > all
[2017-03-01 20:07:46] wurstgelee : reliability
[2017-03-01 20:07:49] MikeHunt : its still shit
[2017-03-01 20:07:49] wurstgelee : BitMEX_Sam: yes it is
[2017-03-01 20:07:52] DorianWhack-A-Moto : pay the premium and get a macbook pro
[2017-03-01 20:08:06] MikeHunt : yeh why not be a total fag and buy a mac?
[2017-03-01 20:08:06] sleger : last one sucks
[2017-03-01 20:08:11] BitMEX_Sam : It's definitely frustrating to see Apple completely drop the ball on that
[2017-03-01 20:08:17] Ahhere : DorianWhack-A-Moto: cut to the chase zactly
[2017-03-01 20:08:18] BitMEX_Sam : But they clearly understand their market - they're selling like crazy
[2017-03-01 20:08:25] wurstgelee : BitMEX_Sam: u can call lenovo support and they send a technician to anwhere in europe within 24h and fix or replace the laptop.
[2017-03-01 20:08:31] sleger : MikeHunt: we understand with 70$ it would be hard to buy one, but it doesnt make buyers "fags"
[2017-03-01 20:08:31] wurstgelee : thats priceless
[2017-03-01 20:08:35] BitMEX_Sam : wurstgelee: Absolutely
[2017-03-01 20:08:36] MikeHunt : apple customers are retards, they'll buy anything
[2017-03-01 20:08:38] wurstgelee : they fix it on site
[2017-03-01 20:09:06] BitMEX_Sam : In a sense you're both right MikeHunt - Apple both makes great laptops, and understands that so many of their customers are retail and will buy anything with the logo on it, especially if it comes in gold
[2017-03-01 20:09:08] sleger : apple even provide you with legit geniuses to fix your issues.
[2017-03-01 20:09:21] wurstgelee : MikeHunt: so....assume that the majority of consultants is used to work with windows....y buy macs?
[2017-03-01 20:09:26] MikeHunt : sleger: i see no reason to buy a mac wen my pc can triple boot linux, osx and win10
[2017-03-01 20:09:28] BitMEX_Sam : What has been angering the pro market the last few months is their shift further into casual retail
[2017-03-01 20:09:32] sleger : Einstein was in an apple store before inventing stuff
[2017-03-01 20:09:41] rapidtrades : wurstgelee: thats true for businesses only right?
[2017-03-01 20:09:59] wurstgelee : rapidtrades: the customer suppoirt part?
[2017-03-01 20:10:02] wurstgelee : on site fixing?
[2017-03-01 20:10:02] sleger : MikeHunt: you also saw no reason to buy bitcoin at 900 and yet....
[2017-03-01 20:10:05] rapidtrades : yes
[2017-03-01 20:10:10] rapidtrades : also so much laaaaag
[2017-03-01 20:10:24] Apocalyptic : rapidtrades: 1,2k users
[2017-03-01 20:10:31] MikeHunt : wurstgelee: for the customer care i guess, u could run windows over the top of it
[2017-03-01 20:10:36] rapidtrades : WHY ARE THEY HERE
[2017-03-01 20:10:38] rapidtrades : GO HOME
[2017-03-01 20:10:38] sleger : i never have any lag here
[2017-03-01 20:10:44] wurstgelee : rapidtrades: u can get it to, its ~ 150 (IIRC!) additonal and u get a prolonged 3y warranty and on site support
[2017-03-01 20:10:46] rapidtrades : STOP LAGGING ME
[2017-03-01 20:11:01] MikeHunt : sleger: learnt a lot since 900
[2017-03-01 20:11:02] DorianWhack-A-Moto : why is dash still pumping
[2017-03-01 20:11:06] DorianWhack-A-Moto : go home dash
[2017-03-01 20:11:09] DorianWhack-A-Moto : you're drunk
[2017-03-01 20:11:17] sleger : MikeHunt: learn more : MBP are great laptops
[2017-03-01 20:11:39] MikeHunt : sleger: not for the price
[2017-03-01 20:11:43] DorianWhack-A-Moto : on a 2015 mbp best laptop i've ever owned
[2017-03-01 20:11:53] sleger : +1
[2017-03-01 20:12:01] BitMEX_Sam : Big fan of it as well
[2017-03-01 20:12:04] BitMEX_Sam : Just wish they did a 32GB version
[2017-03-01 20:12:05] sleger : MikeHunt: see dummy
[2017-03-01 20:12:28] MikeHunt : just buy similar spec laptop and install osx on it
[2017-03-01 20:12:33] MikeHunt : save 1/2 or more price
[2017-03-01 20:12:35] BitMEX_Sam : Not that easy
[2017-03-01 20:12:42] MikeHunt : well not for apple customers ;)
[2017-03-01 20:12:45] sleger : build quality, battery price, screen etc...
[2017-03-01 20:12:51] Ahhere : MikeHunt: save a few hundred for a lot of hassle
[2017-03-01 20:12:52] wurstgelee : sleger: the t460s is the windows version of a mbp ;) there are quite a lof of tests out there comparing those 2
[2017-03-01 20:13:04] MikeHunt : Ahhere: not that difficult rly
[2017-03-01 20:13:18] MikeHunt : wurstgelee: ie: shit and overpriced?
[2017-03-01 20:13:30] InvalidUser : https://www.acer.com/ac/en/US/content/predator-series/predator21x
[2017-03-01 20:13:38] BitMEX_Sam : Most hackintoshes have incompatibility issues with the gfx & wifi
[2017-03-01 20:13:39] MikeHunt : also didnt an iphone7 explode recently?
[2017-03-01 20:13:47] sleger : and i doubt its legal to install OSX on your cheap copy
[2017-03-01 20:13:50] MikeHunt : BitMEX_Sam: thats why u buy to spec
[2017-03-01 20:13:57] MikeHunt : sleger: legal smegal
[2017-03-01 20:13:59] wurstgelee : MikeHunt: maybe switch topic to something you understand? trading and hardware dont seem to work for u. :<
[2017-03-01 20:14:02] Ahhere : It's like buying IKEA furniture or just buying furniture that is made @MikeHunt
[2017-03-01 20:14:02] sleger : if you want to break the law thats one thing, but dont encourage other people to do it
[2017-03-01 20:14:15] MikeHunt : wurstgelee: o rly?
[2017-03-01 20:14:18] wurstgelee : yep
[2017-03-01 20:14:19] wurstgelee : rly
[2017-03-01 20:14:22] wurstgelee : i am sorry
[2017-03-01 20:14:27] BitMEX_Sam : The Y50 was afaik the most compatible hackintosh laptop ever, and its wifi is broken
[2017-03-01 20:14:31] BitMEX_Sam : There's no magic bullet
[2017-03-01 20:14:40] sleger : i guess updates also break stuff
[2017-03-01 20:14:54] wurstgelee : who is gonna buy the 3310 remake?
[2017-03-01 20:14:54] BitMEX_Sam : Worse yet, Lenovo doesn't let you change out the wireless card, you have to patch the BIOS which is difficult/error-prone
[2017-03-01 20:14:59] wurstgelee : =)
[2017-03-01 20:15:09] MikeHunt : sleger: grey area, who cares
[2017-03-01 20:15:10] MikeHunt : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L397TWLwrUU
[2017-03-01 20:15:12] sleger : save 300$ spend 24 hours on forums trying to get wifi working again every 3 months, sounds awesome
[2017-03-01 20:15:13] DorianWhack-A-Moto : mbp touchpad is the best. cant recreate that on a hackintosh
[2017-03-01 20:15:44] MikeHunt : tbh running OSX in a vm seems to work best
[2017-03-01 20:16:10] MikeHunt : rather than ruin a good pc/laptop
[2017-03-01 20:16:17] wurstgelee : BitMEX_Sam: u can change components @ the T series tho
[2017-03-01 20:16:17] MikeHunt : by making it the main OS
[2017-03-01 20:16:17] wurstgelee : ;)
[2017-03-01 20:17:01] hmmmYea : maybe tick size should be .10 >$1000. order book is so spammy in the perp swap
[2017-03-01 20:17:03] wurstgelee : MikeHunt: why would run osx better in a vm compared to dedicated hardware?
[2017-03-01 20:17:10] wurstgelee : following what logic?
[2017-03-01 20:17:10] sleger : hmmmYea: agreed !
[2017-03-01 20:17:40] MikeHunt : wurstgelee: well generally ur gonna use OSX the least amount possible, its jsut for those OSX only things
[2017-03-01 20:17:45] MikeHunt : like xcrap
[2017-03-01 20:17:49] MikeHunt : xcode*
[2017-03-01 20:17:52] MikeHunt : etc.
[2017-03-01 20:17:55] wurstgelee : no, u said it "runs best"
[2017-03-01 20:18:00] wurstgelee : not "most convenient"
[2017-03-01 20:18:17] MikeHunt : wurstgelee: well thanks for playing office paperclip and ammending my comment then
[2017-03-01 20:18:48] hmmmYea : sleger: tick size < 1 basis point only makes sense in very low volatility assets.
[2017-03-01 20:18:58] itsyourboy : anyone else getting rekt sitting on an old short?
[2017-03-01 20:19:03] itsyourboy : can anyone beat -29%
[2017-03-01 20:19:14] wurstgelee : u just reminded me why i never got a dog. its great at first but i got bored of playing ball with u after only a few minutes
[2017-03-01 20:19:15] wurstgelee : thanks
[2017-03-01 20:19:16] BitMEX_Sam : We've considered it - you can improve performance by turning off animations - click your name at the top right
[2017-03-01 20:19:26] sleger : hmmmYea: i've argued for it many months ago already. It is a well understood fact (for pro traders) that avg spread should be 2-5 ticks max . @BitMEX_Sam
[2017-03-01 20:19:31] MikeHunt : wurstgelee: wait until u clean up my shit
[2017-03-01 20:19:53] wurstgelee : i dont live here, u can shit as much as u want. sam might disagree tho
[2017-03-01 20:21:00] wurstgelee : itsyourboy: rapid can :)
[2017-03-01 20:21:31] hmmmYea : BitMEX_Sam: the site runs like a dream for me. just the game theory for tiny ticks gets so annoying... hurts liquidity in the end
[2017-03-01 20:21:55] sleger : yes front running by 40$ orders is annoying
[2017-03-01 20:22:16] wurstgelee : lol
[2017-03-01 20:22:16] MikeHunt : wurstgelee: but srsly i dont like apple since jobs died, he was a bit of a cunt but he wouldnt have let bendy iphones happen
[2017-03-01 20:22:43] hmmmYea : would leave way more resting orders on the book if i was not guaranteed to get ticked by bots when i was paying attention to other stuff
[2017-03-01 20:22:54] sleger : it doesnt bend, if it does you should go to the gym, your ass is too fat @MikeHunt
[2017-03-01 20:22:55] wurstgelee : MikeHunt: u are mixing things up. i never vouched for apple. i vouched for the t460s, which is a lenovo model
[2017-03-01 20:23:20] sleger : apple t460s, great laptop
[2017-03-01 20:23:26] MikeHunt : wurstgelee: overpriced imo
[2017-03-01 20:23:30] wurstgelee : lolz
[2017-03-01 20:23:44] sleger : MikeHunt: raspberry pi is cheaper
[2017-03-01 20:23:47] wurstgelee : yeah, we all understood your opinion by now. an where you pulled it from. ;)
[2017-03-01 20:24:03] MikeHunt : sleger: i expect a dedicated gpu for t460 price
[2017-03-01 20:24:10] sleger : his iphone-bending ass
[2017-03-01 20:24:29] wurstgelee : yes
[2017-03-01 20:26:28] -_- : DASH/BTC another ATH
[2017-03-01 20:26:53] MikeHunt : wurstgelee: if ur co-workers are getting through laptops every 3 years buy em some Amrels
[2017-03-01 20:27:18] wurstgelee : wtf=
[2017-03-01 20:27:20] wurstgelee : ?
[2017-03-01 20:27:23] wurstgelee : no
[2017-03-01 20:28:22] wurstgelee : MikeHunt: price really doesnt matter. 1k$ more or less is no issue.
[2017-03-01 20:29:19] wurstgelee : ~ say 1000 days per laptop until retirement, that makes it a lot less than $2 per day
[2017-03-01 20:29:45] cryptonoob : any crazies still short right now on BTC?
[2017-03-01 20:30:05] wurstgelee : $3 if u also count working days (which doesnt make sense, because empl are allowed to use them privately so they are used 7days/week)
[2017-03-01 20:30:11] wurstgelee : *also=only
[2017-03-01 20:30:22] wurstgelee : its nothing compared to other costs
[2017-03-01 20:30:29] itsyourboy : cryptonoob: yep...
[2017-03-01 20:30:43] cryptonoob : itsyourboy: what's your stop loss?
[2017-03-01 20:31:00] -_- : cryptonoob: yeah. shorted the double top
[2017-03-01 20:31:16] MikeHunt : wurstgelee: no gpu means no gaming, ur company must b like one from movie Office Space
[2017-03-01 20:31:21] itsyourboy : cryptonoob: i made a rookie error and didnt set one
[2017-03-01 20:32:34] OaktreeCapital : Sup bitches
[2017-03-01 20:36:16] BTCDJS : OaktreeCapital: hey sleger
[2017-03-01 20:37:43] sleger : hmmm no
[2017-03-01 20:39:11] BTCDJS : Yeah not your style actually
[2017-03-01 20:41:34] abbey : soon
[2017-03-01 20:47:21] men : problem on dash book
[2017-03-01 20:47:40] wurstgelee : seems fine to me
[2017-03-01 20:47:42] wurstgelee : lol
[2017-03-01 20:47:50] wurstgelee : i wouldnt want to buy here either
[2017-03-01 20:47:51] wurstgelee : :D
[2017-03-01 20:48:13] men : now seems better .. order were confused 20 sec ago
[2017-03-01 20:48:57] wurstgelee : order confusion is a serious issue
[2017-03-01 20:50:28] men : yes orders were confused
[2017-03-01 20:51:11] men : sell orders were from the biggest to the lowest xD inverted
[2017-03-01 20:57:06] mtourig3 : https://cryptowat.ch/bitflyer/btcfxjpy/30m
[2017-03-01 20:57:10] mtourig3 : is JPY @ 1281?
[2017-03-01 20:57:20] mtourig3 : https://www.google.ca/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=145589+JPY+to+USD&*
[2017-03-01 20:59:34] sleger : 1275
[2017-03-01 20:59:45] prueba : I'm trying to understand fees from bitmex swap. Can someone from the staff help me?
[2017-03-01 20:59:58] BitMEX_Greg : prueba: Hi whats up
[2017-03-01 21:00:04] rapidtrades : lol fake jap pumps no longer taken srsly
[2017-03-01 21:00:17] sleger : it will drag the price up
[2017-03-01 21:00:23] j8 : bitflyer FX is close to 2% higher than the bitflyer spot and quoine spot
[2017-03-01 21:00:24] sleger : japanese ETF approved
[2017-03-01 21:00:36] odieoh : What are the japanese exchanges?
[2017-03-01 21:00:55] MikeHunt : odieoh: quoine and bitflyer
[2017-03-01 21:00:58] sleger : sushi.jp and sashimi.jp
[2017-03-01 21:01:17] odieoh : those are some delicious exchanges. Thanks @mikehunt
[2017-03-01 21:02:28] amaru : californiaroll.jp
[2017-03-01 21:02:44] sleger : the one for poor people
[2017-03-01 21:02:52] amaru : lol
[2017-03-01 21:03:31] prueba : if i understand correctly there are two tippes of fee one for trade and the other just for having an order on the market (order book) correct?
[2017-03-01 21:03:59] sleger : yes
[2017-03-01 21:04:04] wurstgelee : sleger: lol
[2017-03-01 21:04:10] wurstgelee : n1
[2017-03-01 21:05:14] MikeHunt : banzai.jp has 1000x lvg
[2017-03-01 21:05:18] zaico : BitMEX_Greg: if i understand correctly there are two tippes of fee one for trade and the other just for having an order on the market (order book) correct?
[2017-03-01 21:05:35] REKT : Liquidated short on `DASH7D`: buy 1000 @ 0.033299
[2017-03-01 21:06:16] amaru : cant believe i live in a world where dash is #3
[2017-03-01 21:06:31] REKT : Liquidated short on `DASH7D`: buy 3 @ 0.033408
[2017-03-01 21:06:51] wurstgelee : amaru: hehe
[2017-03-01 21:06:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 1000 @ 1220.31
[2017-03-01 21:07:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 11 @ 1219.81
[2017-03-01 21:08:08] wurstgelee : finally rapidtrades went long and gets immediately liquidated
[2017-03-01 21:08:11] wurstgelee : the tragedy
[2017-03-01 21:08:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `DASH7D`: buy 1606 @ 0.033539
[2017-03-01 21:11:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 1000 @ 1251.65
[2017-03-01 21:11:22] rapidtrades : wurstgelee: still short, suck it german
[2017-03-01 21:12:35] REKT : Liquidated short on `DASH7D`: buy 50 @ 0.033773
[2017-03-01 21:13:06] herpinator : I wish there as a way to save a custom layout
[2017-03-01 21:14:55] -_- : big LTC buy on poloniex
[2017-03-01 21:15:20] -_- : DASH almost doubled in a week
[2017-03-01 21:16:00] rapidtrades : are we double topping? looks like we're doub;e topping
[2017-03-01 21:17:36] rapidtrades : lol this place gets so quiet whenever we drop $5
[2017-03-01 21:17:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `DASH7D`: buy 16 @ 0.034054
[2017-03-01 21:17:55] rapidtrades : u were all chatty catties 30 mins ago
[2017-03-01 21:18:01] ross : rapidtrades: going to 880 again
[2017-03-01 21:18:07] men : nigerian prince buying dash
[2017-03-01 21:18:35] REKT : Liquidated short on `DASH7D`: buy 700 @ 0.034162
[2017-03-01 21:19:12] ubba : guys was there some announcement today?
[2017-03-01 21:19:22] men : only 18k dash to sell on polo
[2017-03-01 21:19:28] BitMEX_Greg : zaico: @prueba There is a fee for opening and closing a position. Then there is a funding every 8 hours either paid or received
[2017-03-01 21:21:06] Coconuter : ubba gooding jr.
[2017-03-01 21:21:11] ubba : will bitmex have virtual reality support soon?