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<< >> English 中文 Русский 한국어 日本語 Español Français [2017-03-01 07:46:28] wurstgelee : oO [2017-03-01 07:46:44] odieoh : @bitmex john, so looking at the chart for xbth17, with the flash crash a few days ago, does the giant wick down represent what the mark price was, or the market price? [2017-03-01 07:46:46] rich : I will try 1 btc to gamble per month, I have more than 100 btc, I won't be all-in them [2017-03-01 07:47:11] rich : It is strictly enforced, max 1 btc per month, no more [2017-03-01 07:47:30] wurstgelee : great story bro [2017-03-01 07:47:43] odieoh : @bitmex_john see my question, I misspelled your name [2017-03-01 07:47:52] wurstgelee : Hollywood will love it [2017-03-01 07:48:27] BitMEX_John : odieoh: the wick down is the market price [2017-03-01 07:48:40] odieoh : Is there a way to tell how low the mark price went? [2017-03-01 07:50:00] odieoh : @bitmex_john [2017-03-01 07:50:01] BitMEX_John : odieoh: one moment [2017-03-01 07:50:05] odieoh : thanks [2017-03-01 07:50:15] ayy_lmao : rich: use cross leverage! [2017-03-01 07:50:18] wurstgelee : blindly catching some smaller dash knifes on mobile while drving to work [2017-03-01 07:50:25] wurstgelee : i am sure this is a great idea [2017-03-01 07:50:28] wurstgelee : oO [2017-03-01 07:50:38] ayy_lmao : lol [2017-03-01 07:50:49] elmorte : wurstgelee: last time I did that, 5BTC down the drain :( [2017-03-01 07:51:04] elmorte : and I thought I was multitasking... [2017-03-01 07:51:28] wurstgelee : yep. ;) been there. But also has been wildly profitable [2017-03-01 07:51:38] wurstgelee : also its a good buzz to wake up [2017-03-01 07:51:42] wurstgelee : ;) [2017-03-01 07:51:42] longbydefault : wurstglee: you still think dash is going to go up? [2017-03-01 07:51:50] wurstgelee : I have no idea [2017-03-01 07:51:53] wurstgelee : haha [2017-03-01 07:52:00] ayy_lmao : just trading the waves [2017-03-01 07:52:04] wurstgelee : Yep [2017-03-01 07:52:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `DASH7D`: sell 200 @ 0.029222 [2017-03-01 07:52:55] thomaskikansha : longs rekting [2017-03-01 07:54:05] ayy_lmao : new 4hr in 5 mins [2017-03-01 07:54:09] ayy_lmao : should be fun [2017-03-01 07:55:38] imabeast : xmr looking saucy [2017-03-01 07:55:40] ayy_lmao : this dump lol [2017-03-01 07:56:44] thomaskikansha : MM's gone lol [2017-03-01 07:56:48] ayy_lmao : inorite [2017-03-01 07:56:50] shiroe : as expected., [2017-03-01 07:57:52] BitMEX_John : odieoh: unfortunetly we don't have a chart of the mark price, only the index and trade price [2017-03-01 07:58:27] ayy_lmao : BitMEX_John: an addition of a mark graph would be greatly appreciated [2017-03-01 07:58:31] odieoh : @bitmex_john hrm. . .do you happen to know approximately how low it went on that big dip? [2017-03-01 07:58:54] odieoh : i assume a fair bit higher than the market price; the wick was cascading margins eh? [2017-03-01 07:59:08] BitMEX_John : ayy_lmao: I will pass this feedback onto the team :) [2017-03-01 08:00:42] BitMEX_John : odieoh: I don't unfortunately [2017-03-01 08:01:15] BitMEX_John : odieoh: but yes your assumption would be correct, one of the biggest reasons we have the fair price marking system is to avoid unnecessary liquidations [2017-03-01 08:01:38] odieoh : Ok thanks [2017-03-01 08:01:49] .. : okc q slowly going down, feel like we will have another drop.. lets hope it will be a fun one [2017-03-01 08:02:06] l3f : BitMEX_John: What price do you recommend for stops? [2017-03-01 08:02:12] l3f : Mark price stops are just terrible [2017-03-01 08:02:17] l3f : last price is stupid as well [2017-03-01 08:02:40] l3f : By the time mark price updates it is actually the bottoms and the stop sells the bottom [2017-03-01 08:02:49] l3f : when the price is actually not the bottom anymore [2017-03-01 08:02:51] j8 : i think the lowest liquidations were around 1115 on that dip [2017-03-01 08:03:49] BitMEX_John : l3f: setting based on mark price can avoid unnecessary stopping out, but I agree that it can result in getting triggered at the bottom [2017-03-01 08:04:02] l3f : BitMEX_John: it has the uncanny ability to sell the bottom every time [2017-03-01 08:04:08] BitMEX_John : it comes down to your personal preference and what your aim is [2017-03-01 08:04:09] ayy_lmao : lol [2017-03-01 08:04:36] l3f : BitMEX_John: can you add a stop that's based on (bestbid + best ask) /2 [2017-03-01 08:05:16] BitMEX_John : l3f: not currently, but if enough people want something like this we could make it a feature in future [2017-03-01 08:05:26] l3f : BitMEX_John: so that's a no [2017-03-01 08:05:27] l3f : hahah [2017-03-01 08:06:00] BitMEX_John : l3f: yeah, is this something you'd find useful though? [2017-03-01 08:06:00] l3f : BitMEX_John: Also % based trailing stops while we're at it [2017-03-01 08:06:18] l3f : That's 100% useful [2017-03-01 08:06:21] wurstgelee : stationary again [2017-03-01 08:06:24] wurstgelee : good job mobile me [2017-03-01 08:06:26] wurstgelee : 8) [2017-03-01 08:06:42] BitMEX_John : l3f: % based trailing stops is on our development schedule, very high demand [2017-03-01 08:06:48] l3f : BitMEX_John: Good [2017-03-01 08:07:21] l3f : BitMEX_John: Just copy all the order types OKC has and we're good I think [2017-03-01 08:07:35] BitMEX_John : l3f: hahah [2017-03-01 08:13:18] l3f : BitMEX_John: I think anything that prevents stops getting whipsawed would be good [2017-03-01 08:13:23] l3f : I don't know what's the best way to do it [2017-03-01 08:15:25] CliffaryHilton : if there was a stop that guranteed I didnt lose money then that would be cool too [2017-03-01 08:15:28] rapidtrades : wtf is going on here [2017-03-01 08:15:51] rapidtrades : some major scam afoot here [2017-03-01 08:16:37] rapidtrades : i hope whoever is pumping this gets caught in the ETF decision [2017-03-01 08:16:39] Farzad : /wall [2017-03-01 08:16:41] rapidtrades : scumbag [2017-03-01 08:16:43] trollbot : ``` ±$30 Ask|Bid liquidity of 4 exchanges: 6317 Ƀ (0.25%) | 4184 Ƀ (4.86%) SLQ: 59 minutes, 5 seconds``` [2017-03-01 08:17:31] vgck : rapidtrades: How much have you made from the funding from your short? How many contracts is it? [2017-03-01 08:17:57] rapidtrades : i prolly lost 2% maybe more [2017-03-01 08:18:26] ayy_lmao : without funding would be? [2017-03-01 08:18:34] rapidtrades : lost 4-5% in january [2017-03-01 08:18:48] rapidtrades : ayy_lmao: talking about funding bra [2017-03-01 08:19:22] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: https://twitter.com/geminidotcom/status/836682892134739969 [2017-03-01 08:19:25] vgck : rapidtrades: ? If you're short shouldn't you have made money, not lost? Shorts gain, no? [2017-03-01 08:19:38] ayy_lmao : thats why in confused [2017-03-01 08:19:41] rapidtrades : nope, it depends on market [2017-03-01 08:19:51] ayy_lmao : there was brief moments it was negative [2017-03-01 08:19:58] ayy_lmao : but overall positive no? [2017-03-01 08:20:44] l3f : rapidtrades: it's japan [2017-03-01 08:20:58] l3f : they're the new China [2017-03-01 08:21:10] l3f : They're leading the pump [2017-03-01 08:21:18] rapidtrades : ayy_lmao: bro like i said i lost 4-5% in funding alone during january, how much more clear can i get [2017-03-01 08:21:55] rapidtrades : there was some weird shit going on with swap constantly trading at small discount, just enough to trigger funding gain for longs but not enough to trade in/out [2017-03-01 08:21:55] ayy_lmao : i though he asked how much you made? [2017-03-01 08:21:59] ayy_lmao : so you lost overall? [2017-03-01 08:22:06] rapidtrades : bitmex refused to do anything about it so whatever [2017-03-01 08:22:13] ayy_lmao : lol [2017-03-01 08:22:17] BTCDJS : Is it accurate to say that if ETF is accepted there will be less volatility and bitcoin will behave more like a stock? [2017-03-01 08:22:21] ayy_lmao : forgot about that [2017-03-01 08:22:45] l3f : BTCDJS: more like pump sky fucking high then dump like we never dumped before [2017-03-01 08:22:46] rapidtrades : yes i lost overall this year on funding, said that first [2017-03-01 08:22:57] ayy_lmao : damn [2017-03-01 08:22:57] vgck : BTCDJS: Doesnt that depend more on market cap, liquidity? [2017-03-01 08:22:57] l3f : pump 10k and drop back to 2k [2017-03-01 08:23:08] vgck : rapidtrades: My condolences [2017-03-01 08:23:17] rapidtrades : BTCDJS: yes that's accurate [2017-03-01 08:23:22] odieoh : @BTCDJS I think that will be the case after a while. .. I imagine some crazy swings for the first while though [2017-03-01 08:23:41] BTCDJS : ^^ [2017-03-01 08:23:45] odieoh : You still will have people on exchanges with margin doing crazy stuff [2017-03-01 08:23:52] BTCDJS : That's what I thought [2017-03-01 08:24:10] BTCDJS : I like stocks [2017-03-01 08:24:18] rapidtrades : i see no way SEC will approve the ETF with this constellation of exchanges [2017-03-01 08:24:19] ayy_lmao : jan was fun [2017-03-01 08:24:23] ayy_lmao : trollbox hype was great [2017-03-01 08:24:24] odieoh : And they will have a shitton of BTC because they (us hopefully?) will have gotten in low [2017-03-01 08:24:33] rapidtrades : maybe if gemini had 50% volume but like this? no way [2017-03-01 08:24:35] BTCDJS : the volatility is annoying [2017-03-01 08:24:49] rapidtrades : i love volatility [2017-03-01 08:24:58] InvalidUser : me too [2017-03-01 08:25:02] odieoh : If the ETF passes, Gemini will be volume leader or close to it [2017-03-01 08:25:06] l3f : I hate the chop [2017-03-01 08:25:11] rapidtrades : odieoh: nope [2017-03-01 08:25:15] l3f : also random dumps [2017-03-01 08:25:19] l3f : Just stable up movement is enough for me [2017-03-01 08:25:20] ayy_lmao : make money during movement [2017-03-01 08:25:22] ayy_lmao : lose it during chop [2017-03-01 08:25:23] ayy_lmao : repeat [2017-03-01 08:25:31] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: not the kind where you go up 20 and flash crash 100 in an instant [2017-03-01 08:25:43] rapidtrades : well don't go long then [2017-03-01 08:25:59] BTCDJS : Lol [2017-03-01 08:27:08] vgck : Can't go long, can't go short? How do you win this game? [2017-03-01 08:27:50] InvalidUser : By not listening to the trollbox [2017-03-01 08:28:21] l3f : vgck: just don't be in a short position [2017-03-01 08:28:28] l3f : worked for 2+ years so far [2017-03-01 08:28:33] InvalidUser : /\ [2017-03-01 08:28:42] InvalidUser : There will be a time to be short but it is not now [2017-03-01 08:28:57] InvalidUser : Just look at any chart and make up your own mind [2017-03-01 08:29:06] ayy_lmao : the great bear market of 2014 [2017-03-01 08:29:17] InvalidUser : it was [2017-03-01 08:29:26] wurstgelee : ayy_lmao: *2015 [2017-03-01 08:29:31] wurstgelee : part of 2014 ofc [2017-03-01 08:29:35] ayy_lmao : 2015 [2017-03-01 08:29:36] wurstgelee : but main bear market was 2015 [2017-03-01 08:29:39] ayy_lmao : the great sideways market [2017-03-01 08:29:44] wurstgelee : hehe [2017-03-01 08:29:44] ayy_lmao : eternal sideways [2017-03-01 08:29:50] InvalidUser : ayy_lmao: lol [2017-03-01 08:29:52] rapidtrades : wurstgelee: no it wasn't it was 2014 [2017-03-01 08:30:01] rapidtrades : ur memory is fried like a sausage [2017-03-01 08:30:07] wurstgelee : y [2017-03-01 08:30:09] wurstgelee : i am old [2017-03-01 08:30:19] wurstgelee : i was this decade [2017-03-01 08:30:23] wurstgelee : thats all i need to know [2017-03-01 08:30:39] ayy_lmao : lol [2017-03-01 08:30:39] rapidtrades : prepare for 80% drawdown HODLerS [2017-03-01 08:30:45] thomaskikansha : dash bouncy [2017-03-01 08:30:51] ayy_lmao : will my butt be cracked? [2017-03-01 08:30:59] rapidtrades : yes [2017-03-01 08:31:05] BTC-Noob : winklevoss twins are selling all their btc during these auctions secretely lol [2017-03-01 08:31:05] wurstgelee : again? [2017-03-01 08:31:14] BTC-Noob : the have like 1% of total supply [2017-03-01 08:32:41] rapidtrades : i've never seen smth move like bitcoin past few months [2017-03-01 08:32:54] rapidtrades : has to be manipulated, this isn't real demand [2017-03-01 08:33:17] rapidtrades : 50% retracement is pretty much guaranteed maybe even 80%+ [2017-03-01 08:33:26] wurstgelee : rapidtrades: this has only started [2017-03-01 08:35:49] vgck : rapidtrades: I hope you're prepared to hold that short past $3000 [2017-03-01 08:36:23] Rado : rapidtrades: are you serious or just bashing [2017-03-01 08:36:34] InvalidUser : 3k will be our base line at the end of 2017 [2017-03-01 08:36:44] ayy_lmao : i totally get where rapidtrades is coming from [2017-03-01 08:37:04] Rado : ayy_lmao: you do? [2017-03-01 08:37:04] ayy_lmao : he doesnt like clueluess noobs (new money) making easy money [2017-03-01 08:37:13] ayy_lmao : so he stubbornly wants to short it [2017-03-01 08:37:31] Rado : that makes sense [2017-03-01 08:37:36] ayy_lmao : but like [2017-03-01 08:37:45] Rado : but that has nothing to do with reality [2017-03-01 08:37:50] InvalidUser : trading on emotion will make you broke [2017-03-01 08:38:01] ayy_lmao : sometimes you gotta accept it [2017-03-01 08:38:13] InvalidUser : Numbers are the only thing that matters [2017-03-01 08:38:28] Rado : it's not about trading or charts [2017-03-01 08:39:11] ayy_lmao : its about "organic growth" [2017-03-01 08:39:15] Rado : many people trade and think they know where bitcoin is going, but don't actually understand what bitcoin is [2017-03-01 08:40:01] InvalidUser : I am 100% behind Bitcoin.. That doesn't mean I am not going to short it on the way down. Being pro BTC means I want more of it. [2017-03-01 08:42:29] Rado : ayy_lmao: noobs will still get wiped out [2017-03-01 08:42:41] BTCTRADER : is the bitcoin price manipulated by some big whales? [2017-03-01 08:42:57] Rado : it might not be from 1200 down to 400 [2017-03-01 08:43:14] Rado : it might be from 3000 down to 1200 [2017-03-01 08:44:15] Rado : BTCTRADER: if there is manipulation it's to keep it down [2017-03-01 08:44:51] Rado : every time it goes up China comes out with some bogus news [2017-03-01 08:45:31] elmorte : When was the last PBOC intervention? Feb 8th? [2017-03-01 08:45:32] Rado : Now it's ETF [2017-03-01 08:45:42] elmorte : It's been almost a month in that case [2017-03-01 08:45:45] Rado : who the fuck cares about the ETF [2017-03-01 08:46:12] Rado : BTC is the real advancement [2017-03-01 08:46:36] Rado : replace the whole stick market instead of adding stupid ETFs [2017-03-01 08:47:03] Rado : people don't get that the stock market is designed to get their money [2017-03-01 08:50:34] ayy_lmao : etf wont make or break bitcoin [2017-03-01 08:50:35] elmorte : Well...yeah...you buy stock to invest your money [2017-03-01 08:51:27] InvalidUser : BTCTRADER: in a small way yes [2017-03-01 08:51:37] DorianWhack-A-Moto : second etf march 31st. if march 11 fails its round 2 weeks later [2017-03-01 08:52:02] InvalidUser : They can move the market in a few hundred dollars in each direction. [2017-03-01 08:53:34] DorianWhack-A-Moto : market is going to be choppy as hell from here on out. should be plenty of pumps and dips to take profit on. [2017-03-01 08:55:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: sell 10 @ 0.013160 [2017-03-01 08:55:46] vgck : DorianWhack-A-Moto: Or lose money on [2017-03-01 08:56:19] paper : in shortish term 6h is looking sort of adam and eve top to me but we'll see what happens [2017-03-01 08:56:42] DorianWhack-A-Moto : It looks Tom n Jerry to me. [2017-03-01 08:56:45] InvalidUser : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ee2amTdwH8 [2017-03-01 09:00:36] InvalidUser : ?? [2017-03-01 09:07:10] wurstgelee : clearly a donald & goofy [2017-03-01 09:10:08] elmorte : DorianWhack-A-Moto: the second ETF is filed by who? [2017-03-01 09:10:22] elmorte : I know there's 3(?), right? [2017-03-01 09:14:54] InvalidUser : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_ybm65bkco [2017-03-01 09:19:27] Ahhere : So I'm Yolo long for the ETF. Happy to pay rapid if he's finally right. Who is in? [2017-03-01 09:20:14] elmorte : I got wife & kid @Ahhere [2017-03-01 09:20:36] elmorte : mortgage...prescription pills addiction... [2017-03-01 09:20:41] daigo : Ahhere, I'm in. [2017-03-01 09:20:46] Ahhere : I said yolo in not all in. I got 2 kids bro [2017-03-01 09:21:11] elmorte : yolo in > all in [2017-03-01 09:21:23] Ahhere : Lol tru [2017-03-01 09:21:33] InvalidUser : Ahhere: GL bro, I am long at decent leverage [2017-03-01 09:22:09] Ahhere : Yolo = risking half my Feb profits [2017-03-01 09:22:44] elmorte : that's YorhFp [2017-03-01 09:22:58] laisee : Family-safe YOLO = you only leverage one time [2017-03-01 09:23:21] Ahhere : Lol such a specific expression @elmorte [2017-03-01 09:23:27] elmorte : :) [2017-03-01 09:24:12] Ahhere : laisee: the kids still go to college just maybe not Harvard. [2017-03-01 09:24:39] elmorte : http://i.imgur.com/T12AhFM.gif @Ahhere [2017-03-01 09:24:46] laisee : maybe the school for kids who can't read good ... [2017-03-01 09:24:54] micmix : elmorte: there is GBTC already trading, and there is Bitcoin Investment Trust byBarry Silbert [2017-03-01 09:25:11] Ahhere : Ahaha @elmorte [2017-03-01 09:25:28] laisee : surely ETF is priced in about 10X already? [2017-03-01 09:25:50] micmix : Silbert wants it to get listed on NYSE [2017-03-01 09:26:35] laisee : Silbert is a wall st wannabe [2017-03-01 09:26:40] Ahhere : I estimate less than half expect it so a further approval pump is what I'm betting on [2017-03-01 09:26:42] elmorte : micmix: cheers. [2017-03-01 09:27:25] micmix : elmorte: this article explains all 3: https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/third-bitcoin-etf-filed-sec-will-they-actually-become-reality/ [2017-03-01 09:28:46] elmorte : That's it, thanks @micmix [2017-03-01 09:29:50] daigo : the point is why they should NOT approve it? they are normal persons, they like easy money, they are at the end of their mandate, they can pass it even by not doing anything, and they delayed the decision for years (just to accumulate?) [2017-03-01 09:30:15] daigo : the incentives are just too many [2017-03-01 09:31:18] daigo : worst case scenario: they approve it (or just let it pass) then bitcoin crashes some months from now because China.. what a tragedy! not their fault, still their money [2017-03-01 09:33:15] laisee : exactly, bitcoin has risks ... [2017-03-01 09:33:26] daigo : as anything else [2017-03-01 09:33:34] daigo : maybe more [2017-03-01 09:33:52] vgck : They don't care, there are way more risky ETFs out there [2017-03-01 09:34:15] daigo : but they care about themselves primarily, hence the incentives are there [2017-03-01 09:35:00] daigo : they are not saints with a mission, they are just State Bureocrats, so they care about their own wealth first [2017-03-01 09:35:05] laisee : vgck: can u list some ETF more risky than BTC? [2017-03-01 09:36:19] daigo : IMHO, stocks about VISA, PAYPAL, MASTERCARD, WU, MONEYGRAM are all at risk.. :P [2017-03-01 09:36:35] InvalidUser : /\ [2017-03-01 09:36:52] elmorte : > The most volatile stock ETF, Direxion Daily Gold Miners Bear 3x ETF (DUST), has a three-year standard deviation of 125.45 and a three-year average annual return of -44.36%. [2017-03-01 09:37:22] laisee : elmorte: sounds like a winner ... where do I dign up [2017-03-01 09:37:43] elmorte : I'll give you my bank acc [2017-03-01 09:37:58] InvalidUser : That takes 3 days to transfer [2017-03-01 09:38:07] elmorte : We live in the same country [2017-03-01 09:38:09] laisee : I need to invest now! [2017-03-01 09:38:44] laisee : before DUST becomes BUST [2017-03-01 09:38:50] elmorte : haha, nice [2017-03-01 09:39:54] elmorte : That AAR reminds me of sex post marrige [2017-03-01 09:56:40] jayesh : Whenever i place a Limit order of 1000, eveery bot seems to get trigerred [2017-03-01 09:59:58] laisee : enraged bot army. [2017-03-01 10:00:31] laisee : you can play around and find out what price delta and qty get the bots activated. [2017-03-01 10:18:48] daigo : this is a good moment for ZH to come up with some fake rumors about the ETF being turned down [2017-03-01 10:39:38] rullwull : i would invest in Brock Pierce ICO rather than Winkelvos's ETF [2017-03-01 10:43:15] vgck : Any know any good risk management videos on youtube? [2017-03-01 11:06:18] MikeHunt : vgck: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpGz13ByJjU [2017-03-01 11:06:32] InvalidUser : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjDbJQKDXCY [2017-03-01 11:06:43] MikeHunt : vgck: also if ur new i recommend only playing with little amounts here til ur making consistent returns [2017-03-01 11:06:55] MikeHunt : margin can be as addictive as mEth [2017-03-01 11:07:14] Farzad : /wall [2017-03-01 11:07:17] trollbot : ``` ±$30 Ask|Bid liquidity of 4 exchanges: 6969 Ƀ (10.60%) | 4126 Ƀ (3.41%) SLQ: 2 hours, 50 minutes, 35 seconds``` [2017-03-01 11:07:31] MikeHunt : woah [2017-03-01 11:09:21] brasska : Farzad: maybe its better +-1% instead of +-$30? [2017-03-01 11:11:30] zanza : https://www.tradingview.com/x/BlKtVKEj/ [2017-03-01 11:12:13] wurstgelee : zanza: haha [2017-03-01 11:12:14] wurstgelee : n1 [2017-03-01 11:14:39] vgck : MikeHunt: Thanks! [2017-03-01 11:15:24] MikeHunt : zanza: might need a 3rd handle if etf fails [2017-03-01 11:15:25] MikeHunt : no biggy [2017-03-01 11:20:46] MikeHunt : hmm that is the 3rd handle? [2017-03-01 11:21:58] ayy_lmao : zanza: lol [2017-03-01 11:22:19] ayy_lmao : you guys are so focused on etf [2017-03-01 11:22:24] ayy_lmao : it might even dump if accepted [2017-03-01 11:22:26] ayy_lmao : lol [2017-03-01 11:22:27] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 400 @ 1195.91 [2017-03-01 11:22:39] wurstgelee : ayy_lmao: NO! THAT CAN NOT HAPPEN [2017-03-01 11:22:41] wurstgelee : 8) [2017-03-01 11:22:48] ayy_lmao : ;) [2017-03-01 11:23:15] MikeHunt : ayy_lmao: that would be the greatest bull trap ever [2017-03-01 11:23:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 2 @ 1196.28 :punch: :whale: [2017-03-01 11:23:44] wurstgelee : 1200 [2017-03-01 11:24:02] MikeHunt : im expecting a flash crash again before ETF thou [2017-03-01 11:24:04] MikeHunt : maybe to 1000 [2017-03-01 11:24:17] MikeHunt : short/long squeeze in preparation [2017-03-01 11:24:25] abbey : let's go fellas [2017-03-01 11:24:55] bingbongfly : come on, unlucky night [2017-03-01 11:24:56] bingbongfly : https://gyazo.com/b9d6bed5bef0bd01fa85169fc4bdf60d [2017-03-01 11:25:16] ayy_lmao : unfilled? [2017-03-01 11:25:21] bingbongfly : yea haha [2017-03-01 11:25:23] ayy_lmao : lol [2017-03-01 11:25:24] bingbongfly : look how close [2017-03-01 11:25:58] bingbongfly : shouldn't complain, got some filled 1182 on swap [2017-03-01 11:26:00] bingbongfly : but still [2017-03-01 11:26:32] ayy_lmao : stamp testing 1200 [2017-03-01 11:26:41] vgck : Moon time? [2017-03-01 11:26:57] ayy_lmao : nothing is guaranteed until 1220 breaks [2017-03-01 11:27:52] ayy_lmao : but 4h looks good yeah [2017-03-01 11:28:12] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 9 @ 1197.83 [2017-03-01 11:28:26] InvalidUser : Choo Choo [2017-03-01 11:29:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `DASH7D`: buy 6 @ 0.031216 [2017-03-01 11:30:50] cmwprice : /price [2017-03-01 11:30:53] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1202.01 (0.77%) Bitfinex : 1198.90 (0.68%) The Woodchipper : 1193.60 (0.38%) itBit : 1197.23 (0.31%) Kraken : 1194.50 (0.48%) GDAX : 1200.00 (0.00%) SLQ : 5 hours, 57 minutes, 22 seconds``` [2017-03-01 11:33:08] cryptonoob : is liquidation based on Mark price? [2017-03-01 11:33:14] ayy_lmao : yes [2017-03-01 11:33:16] SilverKnight : cryptonoob: yes [2017-03-01 11:33:23] wurstgelee : mark price and the humidity in wessex, uk [2017-03-01 11:33:29] ayy_lmao : lol [2017-03-01 11:34:12] cryptonoob : so not based on last trade? [2017-03-01 11:34:18] wurstgelee : nope [2017-03-01 11:35:59] ross : News? [2017-03-01 11:36:10] ayy_lmao : organic growth [2017-03-01 11:36:22] wurstgelee : yep. supply and demand. only [2017-03-01 11:37:50] Farzad : FINALLY [2017-03-01 11:37:54] Farzad : some movement [2017-03-01 11:37:58] Farzad : come on GO GO [2017-03-01 11:38:11] -_- : 1200 broken [2017-03-01 11:38:17] Farzad : /wall [2017-03-01 11:38:20] trollbot : ``` ±$30 Ask|Bid liquidity of 4 exchanges: 7061 Ƀ (12.06%) | 4312 Ƀ (8.07%) SLQ: 31 minutes, 3 seconds``` [2017-03-01 11:38:20] shiroe : 1500! [2017-03-01 11:38:25] shiroe : Fomo inc. [2017-03-01 11:38:36] Farzad : /price [2017-03-01 11:38:42] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1203.01 (0.08%) Bitfinex : 1201.00 (0.18%) The Woodchipper : 1193.99 (0.03%) itBit : 1199.12 (0.16%) Kraken : 1196.00 (0.13%) GDAX : 1200.00 (0.00%) SLQ : 7 minutes, 49 seconds``` [2017-03-01 11:38:47] Farzad : not broken yet [2017-03-01 11:38:51] vgck : The ask wall means we're not likely to go very far up, right? [2017-03-01 11:39:08] Farzad : yes [2017-03-01 11:39:21] wurstgelee : lol? [2017-03-01 11:39:50] Farzad : 7K resistance [2017-03-01 11:39:56] Farzad : to 1230 [2017-03-01 11:40:24] wurstgelee : so? how long does it take to pull a wall or place 1? ;) [2017-03-01 11:40:40] Farzad : It is not 1 wall [2017-03-01 11:40:54] Farzad : It is thousands of orders spread [2017-03-01 11:40:58] wurstgelee : also - if your really, really ahve to stick to walls: sell walls are made for buying [2017-03-01 11:41:01] wurstgelee : and vice versa [2017-03-01 11:41:07] Farzad : sure [2017-03-01 11:41:09] Farzad : /wall [2017-03-01 11:41:13] trollbot : ``` ±$30 Ask|Bid liquidity of 4 exchanges: 7170 Ƀ (13.79%) | 4294 Ƀ (7.62%) SLQ: 2 minutes, 53 seconds``` [2017-03-01 11:41:26] Farzad : but Bid wall is thinner [2017-03-01 11:41:36] Farzad : 3K more to sell than buy [2017-03-01 11:42:01] Farzad : meaning bulls can not overcome bears [2017-03-01 11:42:03] wurstgelee : so u think everyone has 100% of his bankroll in either orders or btc, yes? [2017-03-01 11:42:08] wurstgelee : walls mean shit [2017-03-01 11:42:13] wurstgelee : especially not those tiny ones [2017-03-01 11:42:22] Farzad : 7K is tiny one ? [2017-03-01 11:42:31] wurstgelee : combined for 4 markets? [2017-03-01 11:42:32] Farzad : this is on 4 major exchanges [2017-03-01 11:42:33] wurstgelee : yes [2017-03-01 11:42:38] wurstgelee : thats tiny [2017-03-01 11:42:38] vgck : wurstgelee: If it meant shit, no one would pay any attention, but they do because it does. [2017-03-01 11:42:42] Farzad : what are u talking about ? lol [2017-03-01 11:42:55] Farzad : u have no idea what u r talking about [2017-03-01 11:43:04] ayy_lmao : i dont look at walls [2017-03-01 11:43:07] ayy_lmao : am i a bad trader [2017-03-01 11:43:08] wurstgelee : ofc not [2017-03-01 11:43:25] wurstgelee : 7k "walls" for 4 exchanges combined. oO [2017-03-01 11:43:29] Farzad : I am not saying it always works [2017-03-01 11:43:32] SilverKnight : volume dropping off here [2017-03-01 11:43:40] cryptonoob : foot massages don't mean shit [2017-03-01 11:43:44] Farzad : It is just an indicator [2017-03-01 11:43:49] Farzad : like many others [2017-03-01 11:43:54] SilverKnight : Farzad: and a useful one at that [2017-03-01 11:43:59] wurstgelee : cryptonoob: 8) [2017-03-01 11:44:06] wurstgelee : great movie [2017-03-01 11:44:08] wurstgelee : need to watch again [2017-03-01 11:44:16] wurstgelee : *once again [2017-03-01 11:44:16] Farzad : SilverKnight: +1 [2017-03-01 11:44:25] laisee : say what! [2017-03-01 11:44:27] cryptonoob : wurstgelee: haha glad someone caught the reference [2017-03-01 11:44:34] wurstgelee : not too hard [2017-03-01 11:44:39] SilverKnight : Farzad: analytics and statistics are my compass and map... [2017-03-01 11:45:06] Farzad : SilverKnight: thats the difference between a trader and a gambler [2017-03-01 11:45:16] SilverKnight : Farzad: word... [2017-03-01 11:47:29] cmwprice : /price [2017-03-01 11:47:32] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1202.22 (-0.07%) Bitfinex : 1200.20 (-0.07%) The Woodchipper : 1194.95 (0.08%) itBit : 1198.10 (-0.09%) Kraken : 1196.99 (0.08%) GDAX : 1200.00 (0.00%) SLQ : 8 minutes, 50 seconds``` [2017-03-01 11:47:48] SilverKnight : /wall [2017-03-01 11:47:53] trollbot : ``` ±$30 Ask|Bid liquidity of 4 exchanges: 6883 Ƀ (9.24%) | 4347 Ƀ (8.95%) SLQ: 6 minutes, 40 seconds``` [2017-03-01 11:48:18] wurstgelee : walls are just pointless. its free to put one up instantly, its free to remove them. no committment in any way is done by putting up a wall. [2017-03-01 11:48:20] paper : the premium in jp is nuts [2017-03-01 11:48:24] wurstgelee : walls are pointless as indicators [2017-03-01 11:48:38] wurstgelee : i had to repeat that so everyone understands 8) [2017-03-01 11:48:42] Farzad : seems percentage is wrong [2017-03-01 11:48:46] SilverKnight : wurstgelee: you know what a wall is right? [2017-03-01 11:48:48] Farzad : it should be negative ! [2017-03-01 11:48:52] ayy_lmao : look [2017-03-01 11:49:07] ayy_lmao : if it makes you money your fine [2017-03-01 11:49:08] wurstgelee : SilverKnight: according to farzad its $30 daviation from bid/ask [2017-03-01 11:49:13] wurstgelee : *deviation [2017-03-01 11:49:22] ayy_lmao : if you dont need to look at walls and still make money, you are also fine [2017-03-01 11:49:25] wurstgelee : independent of order block sizes [2017-03-01 11:49:32] wurstgelee : ... [2017-03-01 11:49:36] SilverKnight : ayy_lmao: +1 [2017-03-01 11:49:51] SilverKnight : I think its stupid to argue over analysis methods... [2017-03-01 11:50:13] Farzad : wurstgelee: technically what it shows is not a wall, but statistically it is the same [2017-03-01 11:50:17] ayy_lmao : some things may work for some people but some may not need it [2017-03-01 11:50:24] ayy_lmao : thats all it comes down to [2017-03-01 11:50:25] wurstgelee : that wall command doesnt take into account, if the walls are one single big block or scattered over the whole $30 range? or does it? [2017-03-01 11:50:58] wurstgelee : Farzad: yep. exactly. /wall doesnt report actual walls [2017-03-01 11:51:00] SilverKnight : if it works for you then good... but if you dont use it... or if what someone is saying contradicts your opinion of where the market is going to go... DONT shit all over them just because you dont like the thought of the market going down... [2017-03-01 11:51:04] wurstgelee : it reports order book depth [2017-03-01 11:51:05] Farzad : wurstgelee: it doesnt, because statistically, it doesnt matter. I could rename the command to something else. [2017-03-01 11:51:05] SilverKnight : since you want it to go up... [2017-03-01 11:51:16] wurstgelee : Farzad: rebrand to order book depth? [2017-03-01 11:51:19] wurstgelee : ;) [2017-03-01 11:51:28] wurstgelee : thats what u are reporting after all... [2017-03-01 11:52:05] Farzad : wurstgelee: no, I dont feel to rename the command. /wall is easy and understandable for most users. [2017-03-01 11:52:12] Farzad : u dont use it. [2017-03-01 11:52:22] Farzad : end of discussion [2017-03-01 11:52:22] wurstgelee : nah, its not. ask 10 new trader to xplain the output of your command [2017-03-01 11:52:27] wurstgelee : 9/10 wont be able to do so [2017-03-01 11:52:28] wurstgelee : if not 10 [2017-03-01 11:52:47] SilverKnight : /wall [2017-03-01 11:52:50] trollbot : ``` ±$30 Ask|Bid liquidity of 4 exchanges: 6888 Ƀ (9.32%) | 4399 Ƀ (10.25%) SLQ: 4 minutes, 57 seconds``` [2017-03-01 11:53:12] SilverKnight : wurstgelee: seriously? this is bitcoin... not the stock market [2017-03-01 11:53:27] vgck : wurstgelee: Why are you complaining about something you said you don't even use anyway... [2017-03-01 11:53:28] wurstgelee : oh rly? i wasnt aware oO [2017-03-01 11:53:32] SilverKnight : things are suppose to be obscure in this online world... [2017-03-01 11:53:48] SilverKnight : if you dont understand the terminalogy... its cuz you havent taken the time to learn it... [2017-03-01 11:53:58] SilverKnight : its part of the process... [2017-03-01 11:54:02] wurstgelee : vgck: not complaining, only trying to help to make it any useful ;) [2017-03-01 11:54:06] hmmmYea : /wall [2017-03-01 11:54:10] trollbot : ``` ±$30 Ask|Bid liquidity of 4 exchanges: 6785 Ƀ (7.68%) | 4341 Ƀ (8.80%) SLQ: 1 minute, 20 seconds``` [2017-03-01 11:54:34] wurstgelee : SilverKnight: since u are so wise, define "wall" in crypto context please [2017-03-01 11:54:48] SilverKnight : wurstgelee: dont have to [2017-03-01 11:54:58] wurstgelee : yes, becaue u cant [2017-03-01 11:55:00] wurstgelee : *s [2017-03-01 11:55:00] SilverKnight : wurstgelee: im not gonna pretend im a geek [2017-03-01 11:55:08] wurstgelee : there is none. [2017-03-01 11:55:09] SilverKnight : wurstgelee: im not... but I understand what it means to me as a trader [2017-03-01 11:55:25] wurstgelee : u understand what u think it means to you as a trader :p [2017-03-01 11:55:31] ayy_lmao : guys [2017-03-01 11:55:36] SilverKnight : wurstgelee: and if I lose money with it, then so be it! [2017-03-01 11:55:49] wurstgelee : SilverKnight: cant argue with that [2017-03-01 11:55:50] wurstgelee : ;) [2017-03-01 11:55:52] ayy_lmao : lets change the subject to something we can all agree on [2017-03-01 11:55:53] SilverKnight : wurstgelee: no one is telling you to use it [2017-03-01 11:55:58] ayy_lmao : like roasting rapid trades [2017-03-01 11:56:05] wurstgelee : ayy_lmao: its more fun if he is around [2017-03-01 11:56:06] SilverKnight : ayy_lmao: :P [2017-03-01 11:56:12] blacktuesday : standby for the rekt [2017-03-01 11:56:24] wurstgelee : blacktuesday: so its going up or down? [2017-03-01 11:56:42] longbydefault : blacktuesday: which way? [2017-03-01 11:57:00] blacktuesday : does it matter lol [2017-03-01 11:57:02] wurstgelee : longbydefault: cant tell, not vague enough [2017-03-01 11:57:02] SilverKnight : volume lower yet again [2017-03-01 11:57:04] wurstgelee : haha [2017-03-01 11:57:30] blacktuesday : i say up [2017-03-01 11:57:31] longbydefault : looks like up... [2017-03-01 11:57:41] blacktuesday : and then diown [2017-03-01 11:57:46] ayy_lmao : blacktuesday: the chart is going right [2017-03-01 11:57:55] ayy_lmao : guaranteed [2017-03-01 11:58:00] SilverKnight : ayy_lmao: thats the only guaranteed direction ;) [2017-03-01 11:58:02] Farzad : /wall [2017-03-01 11:58:05] trollbot : ``` ±$30 Ask|Bid liquidity of 4 exchanges: 6840 Ƀ (8.55%) | 4173 Ƀ (4.59%) SLQ: 3 minutes, 55 seconds``` [2017-03-01 11:58:40] blacktuesday : 150 fakeout dump 950 [2017-03-01 11:58:41] Farzad : /wall [2017-03-01 11:58:44] trollbot : ``` ±$30 Ask|Bid liquidity of 4 exchanges: 6919 Ƀ (0.00%) | 4246 Ƀ (0.00%) SLQ: ``` [2017-03-01 11:58:45] longbydefault : never fails to go right... how to bet in that direction? haha [2017-03-01 11:58:58] BTCDJS : I predict price to move in these directions: up down sideways. These are the three main movements. Look out for them. You can't go wrong. Thank me later [2017-03-01 11:58:58] Farzad : I fixed the percentage of /wall [2017-03-01 11:59:04] longbydefault : i hope bitcoin goes up and dash goes down [2017-03-01 11:59:04] Apocalyptic : did anyone notice orderbook updates being flashed in bright yellow a few days ago ? was that a temp update only ? [2017-03-01 11:59:29] ayy_lmao : you can turn it off [2017-03-01 11:59:38] Farzad : /price [2017-03-01 11:59:45] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1202.50 (20.25%) Bitfinex : 1201.70 (20.17%) The Woodchipper : 1195.00 (19.50%) itBit : 1198.73 (19.87%) Kraken : 1196.00 (19.60%) GDAX : 1202.10 (20.21%) SLQ : ``` [2017-03-01 11:59:54] blacktuesday : /free money [2017-03-01 11:59:58] ayy_lmao : click on your username and turn "animations" "off" [2017-03-01 12:00:01] Apocalyptic : ayy_lmao: how about turn it on ? I don't see it anymore [2017-03-01 12:00:09] ayy_lmao : do what i said [2017-03-01 12:00:12] ayy_lmao : but turn it on [2017-03-01 12:00:17] Apocalyptic : it IS on [2017-03-01 12:00:24] ayy_lmao : rekt [2017-03-01 12:00:25] Apocalyptic : I haven't changed anything [2017-03-01 12:00:52] blacktuesday : liqs at 1210ish... [2017-03-01 12:00:53] ayy_lmao : when i switch it off it no longer flashes yellow for me [2017-03-01 12:00:55] BTCDJS : He meant iff [2017-03-01 12:01:02] wurstgelee : Apocalyptic: still flashing for me [2017-03-01 12:01:04] BTCDJS : off [2017-03-01 12:01:12] wurstgelee : it a fucking disco atm [2017-03-01 12:01:17] wurstgelee : *its [2017-03-01 12:01:25] Apocalyptic : wurstgelee: damn, seems I don't have the good stuff [2017-03-01 12:01:34] blacktuesday : donkey show incoming [2017-03-01 12:01:35] BTCDJS : Try refreshing [2017-03-01 12:01:36] SilverKnight : Apocalyptic: same with my order book... [2017-03-01 12:01:41] wurstgelee : dunno, seems harmful for epilepsy patients tbh [2017-03-01 12:01:44] SilverKnight : Apocalyptic: no flashing colors :( [2017-03-01 12:01:47] wurstgelee : there should be a warning [2017-03-01 12:01:49] wurstgelee : 8) [2017-03-01 12:01:50] Apocalyptic : BTCDJS: dude... for real ? [2017-03-01 12:01:51] ayy_lmao : wurstgelee: lol [2017-03-01 12:02:14] blacktuesday : 100x bull yolo activated [2017-03-01 12:02:20] SilverKnight : probably better that way.... [2017-03-01 12:02:29] Apocalyptic : "have you tried turning it off and on again, sir ?"