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[2017-02-28 08:43:15] ayy_lmao : no matter leverage
[2017-02-28 08:43:21] BitMEX_John : Taco: one contract is 1USD of bitcoin at any price
[2017-02-28 08:43:23] Taco : ok
[2017-02-28 08:43:35] ayy_lmao : leverage just lets you play with more contracts
[2017-02-28 08:43:44] BitMEX_John : Taco: so right now 1XBT if exposure would require you to have 1190 contracts
[2017-02-28 08:43:46] Taco : yeah
[2017-02-28 08:44:19] BitMEX_John : Taco: 60K contracts at the current price (say 1190) is 50.4XBT
[2017-02-28 08:44:32] Taco : not if you are on 50x leverage
[2017-02-28 08:44:36] Taco : u can purchase that with only 1 coin then, correct?
[2017-02-28 08:44:43] Taco : lets just say 1200
[2017-02-28 08:45:10] ayy_lmao : yes 1 coin
[2017-02-28 08:45:13] BitMEX_John : Taco: the leverage doesn't effect the value of your position, 60K contracts is 60K USD of exposure, no matter the leverage
[2017-02-28 08:45:34] Taco : yes, but you can purchase taht
[2017-02-28 08:45:36] Taco : with 1 coin only
[2017-02-28 08:46:24] elmorte : Taco: when you click Buy / Long, the confirmation screen tells you how much you need at specified leverage
[2017-02-28 08:46:35] Taco : yeah
[2017-02-28 08:46:36] BitMEX_John : Taco: yes you can open a position of 60,000 contracts at the current price with roughly 1XBT
[2017-02-28 08:46:48] Taco : ok so john
[2017-02-28 08:46:51] Taco : if i do that
[2017-02-28 08:46:55] Taco : and coins go up 100$ , and im longing
[2017-02-28 08:47:02] Taco : I make, 100$ x 50, correct/
[2017-02-28 08:47:46] ayy_lmao : $100 X contract value
[2017-02-28 08:47:49] Taco : its all starting to make sense now
[2017-02-28 08:48:03] BitMEX_John : Taco: you make the difference between your entry and exit value - so your entry value is -50XBT and your exit is -46XBT so you get 4XBT
[2017-02-28 08:48:21] Taco : ok i see now
[2017-02-28 08:48:46] Taco : the only thing that isnt good is 100x because of how, if it goes negative ,its technically at 200x lol
[2017-02-28 08:48:48] Taco : u lose 5$ ur cleaned
[2017-02-28 08:48:53] Taco : but on 50x, u have 16$ of wiggle room
[2017-02-28 08:48:55] Taco : when it should be 20
[2017-02-28 08:49:00] Taco : if there was no loaning invovled
[2017-02-28 08:49:03] ayy_lmao : yup
[2017-02-28 08:49:07] Taco : and u didnt need to worry about going negative
[2017-02-28 08:49:13] Taco : that's why ive been so confused
[2017-02-28 08:49:18] ayy_lmao : bitmex doesnt like that word btw
[2017-02-28 08:49:25] Taco : well i mean really
[2017-02-28 08:49:29] Taco : it clarifies things quite well
[2017-02-28 08:49:33] Taco : becuase they need to pay back the loaner
[2017-02-28 08:49:34] ayy_lmao : yeah
[2017-02-28 08:49:39] BitMEX_John : Taco: the point about leverage that I am trying to get across is that that 60K position is the same at 20x leverage, 50x leverage and 100x leverage, you still make 4XBT on the price move you used in your example
[2017-02-28 08:49:51] Taco : and if coins drop 20$ they still owe the guy 120x 1200$
[2017-02-28 08:50:07] Taco : even tho coins are now 1180, so the 100 coins isnt even 120k anymore
[2017-02-28 08:50:27] Taco : yeah i understand that
[2017-02-28 08:51:00] Taco : so for somethign like what ive been talking about
[2017-02-28 08:51:05] Taco : do u recommend trading on perpetual swap?
[2017-02-28 08:51:23] Taco : because the price is closest to the prices on bitstamp / okc
[2017-02-28 08:51:50] BitMEX_John : Taco: it really comes down to personal preference and how long you want to hold the position for and in what direction
[2017-02-28 08:51:56] ayy_lmao : okc is at 1186
[2017-02-28 08:52:05] ayy_lmao : stamp is at 1192
[2017-02-28 08:52:10] BitMEX_John : Taco: historically longs are likely to be charged a funding fee on the swaps so over a long period of time this can eat into your margin
[2017-02-28 08:52:50] Taco : but the mar 31st price
[2017-02-28 08:52:52] Taco : is like
[2017-02-28 08:52:54] Taco : way off lol
[2017-02-28 08:53:06] Taco : it's too swingy
[2017-02-28 08:53:08] Taco : for something like this
[2017-02-28 08:53:41] ayy_lmao : its easier to get rekt on mar 31 with high leverage
[2017-02-28 08:53:45] ayy_lmao : thats all i will say
[2017-02-28 08:53:56] Taco : so are those the only 2 places to trade
[2017-02-28 08:54:00] Taco : what is quarterly and all taht
[2017-02-28 08:54:05] Taco : there are like 3 on a list, but i cant find it anymore
[2017-02-28 08:54:07] abbey : futures with hi lev act like that
[2017-02-28 08:54:11] Taco : .3% up to 10%
[2017-02-28 08:54:54] Taco : Idk what futures even means
[2017-02-28 08:55:05] Taco : is that another trading area
[2017-02-28 08:55:10] Taco : like swap/mar 31st
[2017-02-28 08:55:52] ayy_lmao : mar 31 is a futures contract
[2017-02-28 08:55:57] abbey : those with ending date
[2017-02-28 08:55:59] ayy_lmao : stamp is a spot exchange
[2017-02-28 08:56:20] Taco : and swap is stamp righ
[2017-02-28 08:56:31] ayy_lmao : swap is futures as well
[2017-02-28 08:56:36] InvalidUser : TPB 4 FYW
[2017-02-28 08:56:37] ayy_lmao : sorta
[2017-02-28 08:56:40] BitMEX_John : Taco: please read our Futures Guide it explains how futures work https://www.bitmex.com/app/futuresGuide
[2017-02-28 08:57:04] abbey : ayy_lmao: yeah
[2017-02-28 08:57:13] ayy_lmao : swap is kinda its own thing
[2017-02-28 08:57:41] Taco : which one do u recommend me using ayy_lmao
[2017-02-28 08:57:42] aethlios : BitMEX_John: hi John, what is this ethmex.com?? are you implementing a bitmex exchange based in eth?? consider adding the old daily 24H contract for ethusd.
[2017-02-28 08:58:17] BitMEX_John : aethlios: we have owned that domain for over a year for brand protection purposes
[2017-02-28 08:58:38] BitMEX_John : aethlios: we will further consider new ethereum based contracts if the demand is high enough
[2017-02-28 08:58:42] ayy_lmao : swap sways less from stamp
[2017-02-28 08:58:49] ayy_lmao : if you like to chart stamp
[2017-02-28 08:58:51] ayy_lmao : you will like swap
[2017-02-28 08:59:00] ayy_lmao : if you like to chart okc quarter
[2017-02-28 08:59:03] ayy_lmao : you will like mar 31
[2017-02-28 08:59:13] arbitrage101 : and this too: www.shitmex.com
[2017-02-28 08:59:20] ayy_lmao : if you like to trade stamp, i would not recommend mar 31
[2017-02-28 08:59:26] arbitrage101 : shit mex .com
[2017-02-28 08:59:33] ayy_lmao : if you like to trade okc quarter i would not reccomend swap
[2017-02-28 09:00:54] Taco : none of that even makes sense to me
[2017-02-28 09:00:59] BitMEX_John : arbitrage101: maybe we will roll out some XBTSHT contracts ;)
[2017-02-28 09:01:10] ayy_lmao : taco
[2017-02-28 09:01:16] ayy_lmao : what exchanges do you chart
[2017-02-28 09:01:24] Taco : i don even knwo what that means
[2017-02-28 09:01:29] Taco : i look at bitstamp prices
[2017-02-28 09:01:33] Taco : to value the price of bitcoin
[2017-02-28 09:01:35] Taco : and i have coinbase
[2017-02-28 09:01:35] ayy_lmao : trade swap then
[2017-02-28 09:01:46] Taco : kk
[2017-02-28 09:01:47] ayy_lmao : if u long more than short
[2017-02-28 09:01:51] BitMEX_John : Taco: if futures don't make sense it is probably best for you to trade swap for now, it is most similar to what people are used to if they have never traded futures before
[2017-02-28 09:01:56] ayy_lmao : the funding will cost more than mar 31
[2017-02-28 09:02:02] ayy_lmao : but mar 31 doesnt like to behave with stamp
[2017-02-28 09:02:12] Taco : what even controls mar 31st
[2017-02-28 09:02:18] ayy_lmao : okc quarter futures
[2017-02-28 09:02:25] ayy_lmao : https://cryptowat.ch/okcoin/btcusd-quarterly-futures/15m
[2017-02-28 09:02:40] ayy_lmao : nevermind lol
[2017-02-28 09:02:41] Taco : so when i trade on swap, am i paying fees every 8 hrs?
[2017-02-28 09:02:51] ayy_lmao : usually for longs
[2017-02-28 09:03:02] arbitrage101 : Taco: or getting paid
[2017-02-28 09:03:09] BitMEX_John : Taco: the funding fee is paid at the end of every eight hour period
[2017-02-28 09:03:09] arbitrage101 : no free lunch here
[2017-02-28 09:03:15] Taco : how much are teh fees to get paid>
[2017-02-28 09:03:30] BitMEX_John : Taco: https://www.bitmex.com/app/swapsGuide#Funding
[2017-02-28 09:03:30] Taco : like say i make 25k in coins
[2017-02-28 09:04:30] ross : Is the fee not the funding rate x number of contracts (per 1000)
[2017-02-28 09:04:50] Taco : so if i turn 1k into 25k
[2017-02-28 09:04:53] Taco : how much the fee be
[2017-02-28 09:04:57] Taco : on swap
[2017-02-28 09:05:02] Taco : roughly ~
[2017-02-28 09:05:06] Taco : whether long or short
[2017-02-28 09:05:32] ayy_lmao : its funding rate * contract value
[2017-02-28 09:05:48] ayy_lmao : funding rate is 0.1371% right now
[2017-02-28 09:05:48] ross : Taco: if you made that in under 8 hours then multiple by funding rate
[2017-02-28 09:05:50] BitMEX_John : Taco: there's no way to predict like that
[2017-02-28 09:06:03] Taco : so if contract value is 60k
[2017-02-28 09:06:05] abbey : turn 1k to 25k.. how fast u was gonna do that?
[2017-02-28 09:06:11] Taco : its .13171*60k
[2017-02-28 09:06:18] ross : Correct
[2017-02-28 09:06:26] ross : Times 60
[2017-02-28 09:06:49] Taco : so would the fee be 7.9k
[2017-02-28 09:06:51] ross : Not 60,000
[2017-02-28 09:07:35] Taco : but if the contract value is 60k
[2017-02-28 09:08:06] ayy_lmao : you didnt enter the % right
[2017-02-28 09:08:20] Taco : 60,000 x .13171?
[2017-02-28 09:08:39] arbitrage101 : use the calculator on top
[2017-02-28 09:08:44] ross : He did, he's just trolling
[2017-02-28 09:08:50] Taco : i'm nor
[2017-02-28 09:08:52] Taco : not*
[2017-02-28 09:08:55] arbitrage101 : next to place order
[2017-02-28 09:08:57] Taco : what part of the calc do i look at
[2017-02-28 09:09:00] Taco : liqudation price?
[2017-02-28 09:09:05] Yong : Please, make ETH perpetual swap~!
[2017-02-28 09:09:11] arbitrage101 : entry and exit
[2017-02-28 09:09:12] abbey : 0.1317%!
[2017-02-28 09:09:23] arbitrage101 : and liquidation price
[2017-02-28 09:10:27] heheh lo : Yong: +1
[2017-02-28 09:10:38] Taco : oh im x by 13%
[2017-02-28 09:10:47] Taco : so u x it by .001317
[2017-02-28 09:10:47] ross : Taco: I like to look at it as funding rate * number of bitcoins in trade, e.g 1000 contracts = 1btc
[2017-02-28 09:11:01] Taco : ok cool
[2017-02-28 09:11:02] abbey : Taco: yes
[2017-02-28 09:11:07] Taco : now i get eet
[2017-02-28 09:11:09] Taco : ok ty
[2017-02-28 09:11:22] ayy_lmao : ross: i do as well
[2017-02-28 09:12:13] ayy_lmao : Taco: funding rate ranges from -.375 to +.375
[2017-02-28 09:12:35] ayy_lmao : negative = shorts pay , positive = long pays
[2017-02-28 09:12:42] Taco : ok
[2017-02-28 09:12:52] Taco : and it prob fluctautes to pay the less popular
[2017-02-28 09:13:05] ayy_lmao : basically
[2017-02-28 09:13:08] Taco : makes sense
[2017-02-28 09:13:15] Taco : so when the eth comes
[2017-02-28 09:13:22] Taco : ima yolo 5 coins on 50x
[2017-02-28 09:13:34] ayy_lmao : you crazy
[2017-02-28 09:13:42] ayy_lmao : lol
[2017-02-28 09:13:52] Taco : not if coins move 100$ in teh direction i pick
[2017-02-28 09:13:53] Taco : :p
[2017-02-28 09:14:06] ayy_lmao : could get stopped out right before tho
[2017-02-28 09:14:14] Taco : if they flucutuate 20$ yea
[2017-02-28 09:14:15] wagwanbebe : just looking, it doesnt seem as viable to golong on the ETF now haha have I missed the boat?
[2017-02-28 09:14:16] Taco : well 16$
[2017-02-28 09:14:36] Taco : i may do 2.5coins
[2017-02-28 09:14:50] Taco : and if coins drop 16$ and i lose my initial
[2017-02-28 09:14:51] Taco : try again
[2017-02-28 09:15:16] ayy_lmao : well u seem to be getting it
[2017-02-28 09:16:05] ayy_lmao : if you are a short term trader, swap funding rate shouldn't be an issue
[2017-02-28 09:16:10] ayy_lmao : but if you long term it, its rape
[2017-02-28 09:16:16] mtourig3 : COIN back up
[2017-02-28 09:16:20] ayy_lmao : unless you are short
[2017-02-28 09:16:29] Taco : yeah it will be
[2017-02-28 09:16:32] Taco : but i dont plan on that
[2017-02-28 09:16:41] Taco : i plan on capatlizing 5-6 times a year
[2017-02-28 09:16:50] Taco : during massive dips or rises in the market of btc
[2017-02-28 09:17:12] Taco : based off of massive things like when bitfinex got hacked, or when trump was elected
[2017-02-28 09:17:14] Taco : etc
[2017-02-28 09:17:18] Taco : trump*
[2017-02-28 09:17:21] Taco : wtf
[2017-02-28 09:17:21] Taco : LOL
[2017-02-28 09:17:24] Taco : trump
[2017-02-28 09:17:28] wagwanbebe : haha
[2017-02-28 09:17:39] ayy_lmao : bitmex fucked you
[2017-02-28 09:17:45] Taco : thats hilarious
[2017-02-28 09:17:52] Taco : hillary
[2017-02-28 09:17:55] Taco : ok just testing
[2017-02-28 09:17:56] Hoppap : /price
[2017-02-28 09:18:00] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1192.00 (0.00%) Bitfinex : 1192.60 (-0.21%) The Woodchipper : 1188.76 (0.33%) itBit : 1190.00 (-0.25%) Kraken : 1194.02 (0.19%) GDAX : 1195.46 (-0.03%) SLQ : 1 hour, 45 minutes, 6 seconds```
[2017-02-28 09:18:23] ayy_lmao : fuck her right in the pussy
[2017-02-28 09:20:33] Taco : how do u change the leverage mid trade
[2017-02-28 09:20:36] Taco : or mid position or w/e
[2017-02-28 09:20:45] Taco : just slide it?
[2017-02-28 09:20:47] ayy_lmao : yes
[2017-02-28 09:20:54] Taco : but what if u have multiple in the same catagory
[2017-02-28 09:21:14] ayy_lmao : all that does is add or take away margin / collateral
[2017-02-28 09:21:17] BitMEX_Wally : jolin: Your transaction just got 1 block confirmation and has been credited to your account
[2017-02-28 09:21:35] ayy_lmao : your contract size will stay the same
[2017-02-28 09:21:58] Taco : so itll lower the liquadation price
[2017-02-28 09:21:58] Taco : ?
[2017-02-28 09:22:11] ayy_lmao : sure, but you need more collateral to back it up
[2017-02-28 09:22:13] ayy_lmao : meaning more at risk
[2017-02-28 09:22:16] ayy_lmao : I use cross
[2017-02-28 09:22:17] jolin : BitMEX_Wally: its interesting, Via BTC helped or else?
[2017-02-28 09:22:17] Taco : yeah ok i see
[2017-02-28 09:23:45] BitMEX_Wally : jolin: Actually, the txid you pasted did not have any BitMEX addresses as outputs, but it is confirmed nonetheless
[2017-02-28 09:24:07] jolin : BitMEX_Wally: I know, txs for update
[2017-02-28 09:24:25] jolin : once I get 3 conf I sent to BitMEX
[2017-02-28 09:24:31] BitMEX_Wally : I am not familiar with Via BTC, do you have to pay them?
[2017-02-28 09:24:51] jolin : no, just enter id transx
[2017-02-28 09:25:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 1100 @ 1187.53
[2017-02-28 09:25:45] dodic : oh hello dip
[2017-02-28 09:25:53] abbey : fill me up bears!
[2017-02-28 09:26:15] mtourig3 : heres the fake out
[2017-02-28 09:26:29] BitMEX_Wally : The block was mined by ViaBTC so it looks like they did help!
[2017-02-28 09:26:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 500 @ 1186.15
[2017-02-28 09:26:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 400 @ 1185.85
[2017-02-28 09:26:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 9 @ 1185.85
[2017-02-28 09:26:52] ayy_lmao : VIABTC the real MVPS
[2017-02-28 09:27:09] arbitrage101 : buy da dip, yo
[2017-02-28 09:27:17] arbitrage101 : 1200 soon
[2017-02-28 09:27:23] arbitrage101 : like the 3 dip before it
[2017-02-28 09:27:31] abbey : still a bit more, please
[2017-02-28 09:28:05] abbey : come to daddy
[2017-02-28 09:28:30] Ahhere : abbey: lol
[2017-02-28 09:30:39] Ahhere : abbey: u swap or march fan ?
[2017-02-28 09:31:02] abbey : both atm
[2017-02-28 09:31:23] ayy_lmao : okc go go go
[2017-02-28 09:31:47] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 3500 @ 1184.25
[2017-02-28 09:31:47] REKT : Next stop - goblin town!
[2017-02-28 09:32:09] Ahhere : abbey: I've been playing with march that dip recently was awesome to buy and nice not to get raped on funding.
[2017-02-28 09:32:24] Ahhere : abbey: are u hedging the ETF or going balls deep?
[2017-02-28 09:33:02] mtourig3 : that was the fake out, up she goes
[2017-02-28 09:33:45] mtourig3 : from 1213
[2017-02-28 09:33:53] mtourig3 : on h17
[2017-02-28 09:34:25] abbey : Ahhere: Steel balls deep
[2017-02-28 09:34:50] abbey : if i correctly read u
[2017-02-28 09:35:29] Ahhere : abbey: nice. Was thinking to put a throwaway chunk short with liquidation in 1300s to protect my cold storage dollar value in event of ETF denial.
[2017-02-28 09:35:49] Ahhere : But I'm increasingly positive on ETF every day that passes without news.
[2017-02-28 09:36:45] jolin : etf will pass, too many fat bribes
[2017-02-28 09:36:46] abbey : Yeah, i'm positive on ETF too.
[2017-02-28 09:37:31] Ahhere : jolin: sec guys don't take bribes, Shirley.
[2017-02-28 09:38:22] jolin : Ahhere: only tips
[2017-02-28 09:38:37] jolin : but heavy ones
[2017-02-28 09:38:58] jolin : so ws can rape people unlimited
[2017-02-28 09:43:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `XRP7D`: sell 1848874 @ 0.00000455
[2017-02-28 09:46:43] abbey : i see lots of new users coming here. Hopefully Bitmex site can handle growing use if it would go crazy fast.
[2017-02-28 09:52:10] jolin : here we go from dipshit UP
[2017-02-28 09:52:24] chromaticcr1 : we had 2000 users around here once back then i remember
[2017-02-28 09:54:46] ayy_lmao : what
[2017-02-28 09:54:48] ayy_lmao : when
[2017-02-28 10:05:28] Ahhere : We will break 1250 again today on march
[2017-02-28 10:08:30] RoftheN : today on march?
[2017-02-28 10:08:41] RoftheN : Oh you mean futures
[2017-02-28 10:13:28] miccheck12 : /joke
[2017-02-28 10:13:30] trollbot : ``` Give a man...... Give a man a plane ticket and he'll fly for a day. Push a man out of a plane and he'll fly for the rest of his life.```
[2017-02-28 10:14:01] ayy_lmao : lmao
[2017-02-28 10:14:32] cryptobull : Lol
[2017-02-28 10:22:52] vgck : Damn, that's dark.
[2017-02-28 10:33:32] abbey : i'm not ready yet damn it, come back down!
[2017-02-28 10:34:01] abbey : wanna go all in
[2017-02-28 10:34:25] vgck : abbey: That seems like a bad idea
[2017-02-28 10:34:38] Akaiapc40 : Lol
[2017-02-28 10:35:06] abbey : vgck: u dont know what ur talkin about
[2017-02-28 10:35:43] abbey : Im 99,5% all in already
[2017-02-28 10:35:54] ayy_lmao : lol
[2017-02-28 10:36:02] ayy_lmao : trying to go ball deep
[2017-02-28 10:36:10] Akaiapc40 : Longing?
[2017-02-28 10:36:51] abbey : bull market is profitable when longing
[2017-02-28 10:37:14] abbey : always remember to short some on tops oc
[2017-02-28 10:37:56] abbey : been long since 900s
[2017-02-28 10:38:48] abbey : Rapids been short since 900, lol to that
[2017-02-28 10:39:00] Akaiapc40 : lol
[2017-02-28 10:39:33] cryptobull : Lmao
[2017-02-28 10:41:43] abbey : Greetings to MikeHunt as well.
[2017-02-28 10:49:48] vgck : abbey: What
[2017-02-28 10:49:54] vgck : is your entry price?
[2017-02-28 10:50:14] abbey : still got light buys waiting at about 1180 and 1150 on swap, come to abbey bears.
[2017-02-28 10:50:46] abbey : vgck: in what contract?
[2017-02-28 10:50:55] vgck : Whichever one you're in I guess
[2017-02-28 10:51:04] jolin : COIN to me is 50/50 bet, does it mean present price represents sentiment or wat?
[2017-02-28 10:52:19] vgck : jolin: That's as far as I understand it
[2017-02-28 10:53:13] abbey : vgck: well xbth17 993.92 at the moment with 5.36 lev
[2017-02-28 10:53:32] abbey : x
[2017-02-28 10:54:28] abbey : xbch17 7066 cny x 5.58 lev
[2017-02-28 10:54:47] abbey : for example
[2017-02-28 10:55:04] vgck : abbey: So if you don't mind, what's your strategy? You're still buying dips, no? That raises the entry price right? Why didn't you just buy 100% when it was lower? Or is it because you've been selling them since?
[2017-02-28 10:56:37] abbey : i have bought dips yes and sold tops, but not much.
[2017-02-28 10:57:43] vgck : So you're just buying for swap iirc and you're hodling mar31?
[2017-02-28 10:59:42] abbey : With XBTUSD my entry was something like $950 and now it,s 1024.65 since ive been buying dips stronger. Yeah, been mostly holding those futures.
[2017-02-28 11:01:18] abbey : of course i bought some when there was huge discount
[2017-02-28 11:01:50] abbey : on march contracts
[2017-02-28 11:03:59] vgck : Like during the recent crash to 930 something I think?
[2017-02-28 11:05:33] abbey : u mean that one a few days ago?
[2017-02-28 11:06:26] abbey : I was asleep, but yes, I had some orders filled during that crash.
[2017-02-28 11:07:31] vgck : Cool. So what would you do if you were just starting out right now? But some now and try to average the entry down slowly, or set orders and wait for the next decent size dump?
[2017-02-28 11:11:42] abbey : vgck: I'm so happy i dont have to make those desicions. This is so wild now. Probably I would try to do both with quarterlies and swap, depending the sentiment.
[2017-02-28 11:14:30] vgck : lol lucky me. Which would you prefer for the buy now approach? Swap has the fees but futures are crazy and I'm afraid if I buy now and it falls I might get REKT.
[2017-02-28 11:15:16] jolin : vgck: traders allways get rekt, only a q of time...lol
[2017-02-28 11:15:59] abbey : vgck: thats a tough one, no comment, sorry
[2017-02-28 11:16:47] abbey : not my headache
[2017-02-28 11:16:52] abbey : anymore
[2017-02-28 11:17:12] vgck : lol thanks anyway, still helps :)
[2017-02-28 11:17:23] abbey : np
[2017-02-28 11:17:29] longbydefault : vgck: i would buy a small amount right now
[2017-02-28 11:18:07] longbydefault : vgck: limit order 50 dollars below; 100 dollars below... until around 700
[2017-02-28 11:18:50] vgck : longbydefault: How much for now, around 50%, or less? This is for swap or quarterlies?
[2017-02-28 11:19:14] longbydefault : vgck: around 10%... you need to have enough money to save yourself if the price falls
[2017-02-28 11:19:33] longbydefault : vgck: either that or you need to have a stop loss
[2017-02-28 11:19:44] ayy_lmao : wait an hour or two for a possible dip
[2017-02-28 11:21:29] vgck : Awesome, thanks guys.
[2017-02-28 11:24:21] jolin : 1137 sb interesting if we dip
[2017-02-28 11:25:06] ayy_lmao : does bitcoinwisdom work for you guys?
[2017-02-28 11:26:56] abbey : ayy_lmao: yep
[2017-02-28 11:28:19] cryptobull : Yep
[2017-02-28 11:30:06] jolin : price? bot?
[2017-02-28 11:30:37] abbey : /price
[2017-02-28 11:30:41] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1184.65 (-0.62%) Bitfinex : 1183.60 (-0.75%) The Woodchipper : 1184.83 (-0.33%) itBit : 1185.43 (-0.38%) Kraken : 1185.50 (-0.71%) GDAX : 1189.48 (-0.50%) SLQ : 2 hours, 12 minutes, 41 seconds```
[2017-02-28 11:31:22] jolin : bitfin pig allways on exteems
[2017-02-28 11:38:18] jolin : /price
[2017-02-28 11:38:22] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1186.00 (0.11%) Bitfinex : 1186.10 (0.21%) The Woodchipper : 1184.91 (0.01%) itBit : 1185.00 (-0.04%) Kraken : 1184.04 (-0.12%) GDAX : 1189.46 (0.00%) SLQ : 7 minutes, 41 seconds```
[2017-02-28 11:47:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 65 @ 1184.07
[2017-02-28 11:48:47] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 1000 @ 1183.20
[2017-02-28 11:49:04] abbey : come to abbey
[2017-02-28 11:51:29] MVZ : /sentiment
[2017-02-28 11:51:32] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 53.42 / 46.58 Daily : 52.60 / 47.40 Weekly : 49.58 / 50.42 Monthly : 48.35 / 51.65```
[2017-02-28 11:51:43] MVZ : /wall
[2017-02-28 11:51:46] trollbot : ``` ±$30 Bid|Ask liquidity of 4 exchanges: 5212 Ƀ (4.18%) | 3907 Ƀ (4.10%) SLQ: 3 hours, 25 minutes, 19 seconds```
[2017-02-28 12:00:37] Ahhere : Looks like the <80 xbts are now too poor for the leaderboard. Nice.. bar keeps moving. https://www.bitmex.com/app/leaderboard
[2017-02-28 12:04:15] Ahhere : Who is Alabaster-Mire-Tooth? Whoever you are you have the highest combined notional and ROE score so good trading! Congrats.
[2017-02-28 12:12:25] rapidtrades : crash imminent
[2017-02-28 12:12:36] longbydefault : are the leaderboards all time profits?
[2017-02-28 12:12:52] rapidtrades : yes
[2017-02-28 12:13:42] longbydefault : how is the % computed if you withdraw/deposit multiple times in your account
[2017-02-28 12:15:27] rapidtrades : not good
[2017-02-28 12:17:46] SilverKnight : hmm looks like we might hit the floor....
[2017-02-28 12:19:41] heheh lo : sell your eth guys, let me buy more.
[2017-02-28 12:21:45] Dynamix : This is bitcoin right now
[2017-02-28 12:21:46] Dynamix : https://www.facebook.com/TheBEERBible.net/videos/1895349184030806/
[2017-02-28 12:21:47] Dynamix : =))))))))
[2017-02-28 12:21:59] SilverKnight : Dynamix: could be yea
[2017-02-28 12:22:13] Dynamix : It is not could be hehe
[2017-02-28 12:37:52] cryptoyolo : WTF WAS THAT DIP
[2017-02-28 12:40:01] arbitrage101 : yes, buy da dip
[2017-02-28 13:02:02] shiroe : seems btc wants to test support before breaking 1200.
[2017-02-28 13:02:41] cryptoyolo : maybe ppl scared of that low time frame double top
[2017-02-28 13:03:40] vgck : How low we heading? 1000? 900? 800? 700? Anyone have some sexy TA to share?
[2017-02-28 13:06:16] KyllingLolsson : No idea atm... Im staying out of this game.. at least with large postitions. I wait until the market has decided direction
[2017-02-28 13:10:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `DASH7D`: buy 12 @ 0.026516
[2017-02-28 13:11:26] laisee : 880 by next fule moon
[2017-02-28 13:11:35] cryptoyolo : If u play Ichimoku, support on low time frames like 1h-4h appears around 1060-1080
[2017-02-28 13:12:01] cryptoyolo : on the daily as well
[2017-02-28 13:12:26] cryptoyolo : it still have all bullish signs on
[2017-02-28 13:12:35] cryptoyolo : has*** im dumb sorry
[2017-02-28 13:12:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `DASH7D`: buy 100 @ 0.027868
[2017-02-28 13:16:33] Akaiapc40 : Then xbt will go up or down?
[2017-02-28 13:17:17] mendax090 : up, slowly
[2017-02-28 13:18:27] Akaiapc40 : mendax090: Me too I can't see going too down at the moment
[2017-02-28 13:20:56] Sultan Pepper : This bitch is unshaken
[2017-02-28 13:22:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `DASH7D`: buy 606 @ 0.028424
[2017-02-28 13:34:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: sell 7 @ 0.013110
[2017-02-28 13:40:13] Tetsuo : https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?q=btc%20to%20usd
[2017-02-28 13:44:57] KyllingLolsson : wee
[2017-02-28 13:58:02] Ugly_Old_Goat : excellent discussion. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JarEszFY1WY
[2017-02-28 14:07:51] -_- : wtf @ dash
[2017-02-28 14:08:14] -_- : new ATH
[2017-02-28 14:10:49] laisee : its the new BTC
[2017-02-28 14:16:46] -_- : time for ETH dump
[2017-02-28 14:16:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: sell 70 @ 0.012990
[2017-02-28 14:18:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: sell 3000 @ 0.012900
[2017-02-28 14:29:22] jolin : /price
[2017-02-28 14:29:25] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1184.02 (-0.17%) Bitfinex : 1188.50 (0.20%) The Woodchipper : 1185.00 (0.01%) itBit : 1186.55 (0.13%) Kraken : 1188.47 (0.37%) GDAX : 1192.23 (0.23%) SLQ : 2 hours, 51 minutes, 3 seconds```
[2017-02-28 14:30:50] mendax090 : Anyone shorting Dash?.. I mean is gotta come down eventually, right?!
[2017-02-28 14:32:17] mtourig3 : https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?q=btc%20to%20usd,bitcoin
[2017-02-28 14:33:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 2888 @ 1181.26
[2017-02-28 14:34:05] cryptokeeper : dump time?
[2017-02-28 14:34:20] mendax090 : Smells like it
[2017-02-28 14:35:09] jolin : /price
[2017-02-28 14:35:10] shiroe : Sell it all! WTF eth btc. haha
[2017-02-28 14:35:11] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1181.29 (-0.23%) Bitfinex : 1182.30 (-0.52%) The Woodchipper : 1181.01 (-0.34%) itBit : 1182.82 (-0.31%) Kraken : 1185.04 (-0.29%) GDAX : 1189.00 (-0.27%) SLQ : 5 minutes, 46 seconds```
[2017-02-28 14:35:17] jolin : buy all
[2017-02-28 14:35:48] -_- : mendax090: it's mainly traded on Polo with margin. buy a few more walls and it's at 0.04
[2017-02-28 14:36:28] mendax090 : -_-: you wouldn't short it?
[2017-02-28 14:36:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: buy 200 @ 0.012900
[2017-02-28 14:37:10] -_- : no not yet at least
[2017-02-28 14:37:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 140 @ 1203.65
[2017-02-28 14:37:44] cryptokeeper : oh ya its dump time
[2017-02-28 14:37:47] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 28000 @ 1179.25
[2017-02-28 14:37:47] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 2380 @ 1179.07
[2017-02-28 14:37:48] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 800 @ 1178.50
[2017-02-28 14:37:48] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 2500 @ 1178.93
[2017-02-28 14:37:48] REKT : Blood on the streets!
[2017-02-28 14:37:48] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 5 @ 1179.06
[2017-02-28 14:37:48] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 100 @ 1178.86
[2017-02-28 14:37:56] cryptokeeper : DUMP TIME!
[2017-02-28 14:37:58] cryptokeeper : CANCEL ALL ORDERS
[2017-02-28 14:37:59] .. : okc q 1193
[2017-02-28 14:38:11] .. : 1163
[2017-02-28 14:38:16] cryptokeeper : hahahahaha
[2017-02-28 14:38:36] .. : okc q keeps doing that lol
[2017-02-28 14:38:41] mtourig3 : okc coming back
[2017-02-28 14:38:42] cryptokeeper : okc spot
[2017-02-28 14:38:45] -_- : fast dips
[2017-02-28 14:38:58] -_- : you blink you miss them
[2017-02-28 14:39:00] mtourig3 : the drop stayed in the channel
[2017-02-28 14:39:12] cryptokeeper : this aint over
[2017-02-28 14:39:45] cryptokeeper : dip buyers will be riggity
[2017-02-28 14:39:50] cryptokeeper : playbook trick
[2017-02-28 14:39:55] sleger : insider trading on COIN !!
[2017-02-28 14:40:08] -_- : 70 wow
[2017-02-28 14:40:18] mtourig3 : COIN AT 70!!!
[2017-02-28 14:40:21] mendax090 : o.O
[2017-02-28 14:40:22] mtourig3 : someone knowssss
[2017-02-28 14:40:22] Farzad : ETF APPROVED !
[2017-02-28 14:40:24] sleger : sold some between 60 and 70 lol
[2017-02-28 14:40:57] .. : lol, are sizes just dollars tho? if yes that liquidity is a joke :p
[2017-02-28 14:41:47] mendax090 : Can't believe I didn't buy the dip :'(
[2017-02-28 14:41:51] mendax090 : Too scared
[2017-02-28 14:42:21] rustiv : the better the dip the more you are scared :)
[2017-02-28 14:46:31] jayesh : Did someone mistakenly pump COIN ?
[2017-02-28 14:46:39] mendax090 : I think it had to be a misstake
[2017-02-28 14:48:01] -_- : almost 1000 contracts for COIN
[2017-02-28 14:48:06] cryptokeeper : i cant believe its not butter
[2017-02-28 14:48:12] cryptokeeper : RIP for person that bought COIN
[2017-02-28 14:49:57] jayesh : What if ETF gets approved :P
[2017-02-28 14:50:16] cryptoyolo : holy man
[2017-02-28 14:50:22] cryptoyolo : wtf is this coin on 70?
[2017-02-28 14:50:48] jayesh : looks like someone mistakenly bought them..
[2017-02-28 14:51:22] sleger : looks like someone knows something
[2017-02-28 14:51:34] jayesh : can be
[2017-02-28 14:51:40] sleger : /sarcasm
[2017-02-28 14:52:26] jayesh : maybe news is leaked to someone that ETF is approved ?
[2017-02-28 14:52:42] jayesh : :P
[2017-02-28 14:52:50] mtourig3 : jayesh: could be
[2017-02-28 14:53:05] mtourig3 : theres gotta be someone that knows a bit more info
[2017-02-28 14:53:27] sleger : yes and that guy decided the best bet was to gamble on coin, makes sense
[2017-02-28 14:53:58] Tetsuo : lol
[2017-02-28 14:54:32] hmmmYea : typically etf applicants will be informed of the decision by the SEC before the decision is made public. But I would hope in this case the SEC would realize that it is prudent to release the decision to everyone at the same time.
[2017-02-28 14:55:06] arbitrage101 : could be fat finger, supposely try to create some ask at 70
[2017-02-28 14:55:19] arbitrage101 : end up pushing the wrong buy botton
[2017-02-28 14:55:23] sleger : I can clearly see the winklevii brothers buying COIN bets on bitmex indeed
[2017-02-28 14:55:32] Tux26 : @arbitrage101 but then it should go down as quickly as up
[2017-02-28 14:55:34] sleger : hoping to make a whooping 3k each !
[2017-02-28 14:55:37] hmmmYea : arbitrage101: seem obvi it is a fat finger
[2017-02-28 14:55:54] sleger : buying COIN > inventing facebook
[2017-02-28 14:55:57] arbitrage101 : Tux26: it is going down now
[2017-02-28 14:56:21] Tux26 : arbitrage101: Don't see it. We are talking abotu COIN_BH17 right?
[2017-02-28 14:56:31] arbitrage101 : right
[2017-02-28 14:56:41] arbitrage101 : ask at 54
[2017-02-28 14:56:48] arbitrage101 : last trade 70
[2017-02-28 14:57:32] Tux26 : arbitrage101: true
[2017-02-28 14:59:19] viptrader : any MOD here?
[2017-02-28 14:59:37] viptrader : if I withdraw btc now, when I get them on the other exchange?
[2017-02-28 14:59:45] viptrader : will it take a day, or immediate?
[2017-02-28 14:59:51] arbitrage101 : 22-23 hours from now
[2017-02-28 15:00:00] BitMEX_Greg : viptrader: Hi
[2017-02-28 15:00:16] mtourig3 : going back up
[2017-02-28 15:00:18] BitMEX_Greg : viptrader: Withdrawals are performed once daily at 13:00 UTC
[2017-02-28 15:00:32] viptrader : BitMEX_Greg: thanks
[2017-02-28 15:00:32] BitMEX_Greg : (2 hours ago)
[2017-02-28 15:00:42] BitMEX_Greg : So unfortunately you will need to wait for the next round which is tomorrow
[2017-02-28 15:00:55] viptrader : no problem, keep it up Greg
[2017-02-28 15:01:14] BitMEX_Greg : No worries, let me know if you have any other questions
[2017-02-28 15:01:36] mendax090 : Sorry guys, but I can't resist this anymore... I'm shorting Dash, may God bless me.
[2017-02-28 15:01:56] arbitrage101 : god bless you
[2017-02-28 15:02:00] arbitrage101 : shortining a rocket
[2017-02-28 15:02:18] mtourig3 : mendax090: good luck
[2017-02-28 15:02:24] cryptokeeper : i sense a fakeout
[2017-02-28 15:02:29] -_- : short the next big pump past the ATH
[2017-02-28 15:02:31] arbitrage101 : it is not
[2017-02-28 15:02:43] arbitrage101 : eth, dash, zcash,
[2017-02-28 15:02:49] arbitrage101 : going up
[2017-02-28 15:02:50] Kalman : mendax090: since when is God blessing impatient dudes
[2017-02-28 15:02:52] Tetsuo : mendax090: are u shorting DASH on it´s way to 0.1?
[2017-02-28 15:02:54] arbitrage101 : fundamental change
[2017-02-28 15:03:36] mtourig3 : cryptokeeper: on what
[2017-02-28 15:03:39] mtourig3 : ?
[2017-02-28 15:08:41] MikeHunt : ltc good hedge against etf fail?
[2017-02-28 15:09:23] Tetsuo : no
[2017-02-28 15:09:42] Tetsuo : LTC is only a good hedge against a BTC HF
[2017-02-28 15:10:04] Ebit : why is there a limit price and a trigger price?
[2017-02-28 15:10:15] Ebit : isn't limit price enough. For take profit limit
[2017-02-28 15:10:29] cryptoexpert : BitMEX_Greg: is coin_bh17 position can be liquidated before mar 12
[2017-02-28 15:10:31] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 280 @ 1185.81
[2017-02-28 15:10:58] BitMEX_Wally : Ebit: Depends on how aggressive you want your limit order to be when triggered
[2017-02-28 15:11:10] Ebit : BitMEX_Wally: can you please explain what you mean
[2017-02-28 15:11:59] cryptoexpert : BitMEX_Wally: if i bought coin bh17 position at 49 and its price reached 100 tomorrow will my position be liquidated ?
[2017-02-28 15:12:02] MikeHunt : Tetsuo: HF?
[2017-02-28 15:12:30] cryptoyolo : it is safer to have a trigger price higher than actual limit price
[2017-02-28 15:12:49] BitMEX_Wally : cryptoyolo: Depends if you are buying or selling
[2017-02-28 15:12:55] cryptoyolo : yea
[2017-02-28 15:13:34] BitMEX_Wally : cryptoexpert: A position in a capped contract like COIN_BH17 cannot be liquidated as it is 100% margined
[2017-02-28 15:14:12] BitMEX_Wally : Ebit: You could have a take profit order to sell at 1200 if the last price goes to 1205, this would be aggressive by 5 USD
[2017-02-28 15:14:46] Tetsuo : MikeHunt: hardfork
[2017-02-28 15:15:32] Ebit : BitMEX_Wally: so if I want a limit price I should set the trigger price a little lower on a take profit limit long?