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[2017-02-28 02:40:16] rapidtrades : they pump on 20/1 and 100/1 leverage so they can cash out on stamp
[2017-02-28 02:40:34] MikeHunt : learn a new way how bitmex fucks me every trade
[2017-02-28 02:40:41] MikeHunt : buy at bottom, processed at top
[2017-02-28 02:40:42] MikeHunt : wtf
[2017-02-28 02:41:01] Tetsuo : rapidtrades: it happened the same way, before gox was crashing, they used gox to pump, and put in ask walls @ stamp
[2017-02-28 02:41:25] rapidtrades : MikeHunt: limit orders mike
[2017-02-28 02:41:34] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: ahh
[2017-02-28 02:41:45] InvalidUser : http://evilcakegenius.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/1200x1200/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/d/a/darksidecookiestshirt.jpg
[2017-02-28 02:42:17] Apocalyptic : Tetsuo: you get it
[2017-02-28 02:43:29] Apocalyptic : wait til they unfreeze withdrawals so they can cash out big at stamp
[2017-02-28 02:44:53] MikeHunt : Apocalyptic: big wave of bull
[2017-02-28 02:44:58] MikeHunt : then splat
[2017-02-28 02:45:03] MikeHunt : like what happened with finex hack
[2017-02-28 02:45:07] MikeHunt : initial tidal wave of green
[2017-02-28 02:45:10] MikeHunt : then fuck load of red
[2017-02-28 02:45:29] MikeHunt : + likely china exchange failure
[2017-02-28 02:45:33] MikeHunt : plus*
[2017-02-28 02:45:44] MikeHunt : then china gov eventually cracks down on localbtc
[2017-02-28 02:45:46] MikeHunt : even more red
[2017-02-28 02:46:16] Tetsuo : SCAM from the beginning
[2017-02-28 02:48:04] micmix : THIS SCAM LOOKS BAD! am I doing it right? @rapidtrades
[2017-02-28 02:48:07] MikeHunt : is it normal than limit orders give no confirmation?
[2017-02-28 02:48:12] q89k : what is heppening
[2017-02-28 02:48:14] rapidtrades : yeah this is some exit scam type BS
[2017-02-28 02:48:22] Apocalyptic : micmix: getting there :)
[2017-02-28 02:48:25] rapidtrades : MikeHunt: check ur options
[2017-02-28 02:48:38] rapidtrades : u prolly tuned it off
[2017-02-28 02:49:04] mendax090 : /price
[2017-02-28 02:49:07] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1195.29 (0.21%) Bitfinex : 1208.90 (0.56%) The Woodchipper : 1197.05 (0.51%) itBit : 1204.80 (-0.25%) Kraken : 1203.72 (0.49%) GDAX : 1207.95 (0.43%) Last query : 1092 Seconds ago.```
[2017-02-28 02:49:11] q89k : why is price go down
[2017-02-28 02:49:23] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: i get confirm on market orders
[2017-02-28 02:49:23] Apocalyptic : q89k: people selling
[2017-02-28 02:49:32] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: just not on limit ones
[2017-02-28 02:50:02] InvalidUser : q89k: It can't go up all the time
[2017-02-28 02:50:29] -_- : stamp almost ate 1200 wall
[2017-02-28 02:50:36] InvalidUser : There is a small dip inbound and then we should go up
[2017-02-28 02:50:42] Apocalyptic : rapidtrades: decent funding coming soon
[2017-02-28 02:50:45] ayy_lmao : china whales tryin hard to dump this
[2017-02-28 02:51:06] InvalidUser : YEa Funding,,, time to short some peeps
[2017-02-28 02:51:13] rapidtrades : Apocalyptic: funding is f*Cked
[2017-02-28 02:51:16] InvalidUser : So easy to predict
[2017-02-28 02:51:39] Apocalyptic : rapidtrades: look at the next predicted
[2017-02-28 02:51:42] Apocalyptic : it's getting better
[2017-02-28 02:51:47] InvalidUser : Not much but I made 150mBTC last funding shorting them
[2017-02-28 02:52:04] rapidtrades : premium has been 4-5 past few hrs and we only get 0.12%
[2017-02-28 02:52:06] rapidtrades : that BS
[2017-02-28 02:52:48] Apocalyptic : rapidtrades: only way to get .37 is more pumping
[2017-02-28 02:54:04] InvalidUser : YOu just buy in 5 min before the funding time and go long 7 seconds before it happens..
[2017-02-28 02:55:20] l3f : Problem shorts?
[2017-02-28 02:55:39] JT : ^^
[2017-02-28 02:55:39] rapidtrades : nope
[2017-02-28 02:55:40] Apocalyptic : l3f: not enough swap fomo
[2017-02-28 02:55:49] rapidtrades : ur ded just don't know it yet @l3f
[2017-02-28 02:55:57] Sultan Pepper : l3f: they shouldn't have
[2017-02-28 02:56:06] Apocalyptic : people somehow prefer a $45 premium
[2017-02-28 02:57:33] Sultan Pepper : Stamp broke
[2017-02-28 02:57:44] Apocalyptic : rapidtrades: $8 swap premium, we're getting there
[2017-02-28 02:58:00] rapidtrades : Stamp broke the wall?
[2017-02-28 02:58:11] Sultan Pepper : Looks so
[2017-02-28 02:58:15] l3f : rapidtrades: 600btc wall demolished
[2017-02-28 02:58:15] rapidtrades : if Tetsuo is right, now we crash
[2017-02-28 02:58:20] -_- : ath soon
[2017-02-28 02:58:29] Sultan Pepper : 1202
[2017-02-28 02:58:34] ayy_lmao : lmao
[2017-02-28 02:58:38] -_- : 12 on finex away and 17 on stamp away
[2017-02-28 02:58:48] Sultan Pepper : 1205
[2017-02-28 03:00:22] MikeHunt : 1190 wall on okc, no crash until that moves
[2017-02-28 03:01:36] rapidtrades : get out or die mike
[2017-02-28 03:03:16] Sultan Pepper : Stmp at 1500
[2017-02-28 03:03:28] Sultan Pepper : :trolleyes:
[2017-02-28 03:03:35] InvalidUser : operation ignore all facts Beyond this point,
[2017-02-28 03:04:07] DorianWhack-A-Moto : pound for pound there is more sugar in lemons than strawberries
[2017-02-28 03:04:57] Sultan Pepper : Ignoring you. IGNORING YOU
[2017-02-28 03:05:10] rapidtrades : no @DorianWhack-A-Moto no way
[2017-02-28 03:05:16] Sultan Pepper : Shit, i read it. Really tho?
[2017-02-28 03:05:48] Shaman : /price
[2017-02-28 03:05:49] vgck : DorianWhack-A-Moto: Sauce?
[2017-02-28 03:05:51] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1209.56 (1.19%) Bitfinex : 1214.70 (0.48%) The Woodchipper : 1202.61 (0.46%) itBit : 1211.00 (0.51%) Kraken : 1206.34 (0.22%) GDAX : 1212.30 (0.36%) Last query : 1004 Seconds ago.```
[2017-02-28 03:07:09] DorianWhack-A-Moto : vgck: http://bfy.tw/ALMo
[2017-02-28 03:08:44] DorianWhack-A-Moto : while everybody is distracted looking up lemons facts, im making bank
[2017-02-28 03:08:50] DorianWhack-A-Moto : *muwhahahaha*
[2017-02-28 03:09:15] vgck : ...
[2017-02-28 03:10:22] Tetsuo : DorianWhack-A-Moto: i can barely drink 3 lemons with 1l of booze in a whole. while i might eat a whole pund of strawberries in anhour though
[2017-02-28 03:10:32] rangle : i should make a radio station that just reads BTC price every 10 seconds
[2017-02-28 03:10:33] Tetsuo : *day
[2017-02-28 03:10:57] Shaman : rangle: thats actually not a bad idea
[2017-02-28 03:11:07] Tetsuo : rangle: http://www.bitlisten.com/
[2017-02-28 03:11:43] Tetsuo : when the huge tx will hit the markets, u can hear it´s time to get out while the frequency get´s lower
[2017-02-28 03:12:03] Tetsuo : 1000+BTC tx sounds low as fukk
[2017-02-28 03:12:48] rangle : nice
[2017-02-28 03:14:49] -_- : are we gonna get a flash dump tonight
[2017-02-28 03:15:24] rapidtrades : hope so
[2017-02-28 03:15:34] rapidtrades : pa looks explosive
[2017-02-28 03:15:41] -_- : bitfinex longs up 9,000 BTC recently
[2017-02-28 03:16:30] Sultan Pepper : Sorry for this...
[2017-02-28 03:16:34] Sultan Pepper : /wall
[2017-02-28 03:16:38] Sultan Pepper : /sentiment
[2017-02-28 03:16:38] trollbot : ``` ±$30 Bid|Ask liquidity of 4 exchanges: 4903 Ƀ (-0.12%) | 2740 Ƀ (-11.84%) Last query: 2414 Seconds ago.```
[2017-02-28 03:16:40] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 59.34 / 40.66 Daily : 51.78 / 48.22 Weekly : 48.83 / 51.17 Monthly : 48.21 / 51.79```
[2017-02-28 03:16:48] Tetsuo : -_-: bullish? (price not movin much though...)
[2017-02-28 03:17:39] -_- : price cant move much higher on stamp and finex without breaking ATH
[2017-02-28 03:20:38] MikeHunt : back to 1200?
[2017-02-28 03:20:41] MikeHunt : on h17?
[2017-02-28 03:20:50] -_- : watching okc quarterly
[2017-02-28 03:20:53] -_- : might be a double bottom
[2017-02-28 03:21:01] MikeHunt : h17 got lot of prem over okc
[2017-02-28 03:21:02] -_- : unless stamp and finex decide to tank below 1200
[2017-02-28 03:21:31] -_- : 35 premium is the norm recently
[2017-02-28 03:22:51] .. : going downnn
[2017-02-28 03:22:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 9380 @ 1197.85
[2017-02-28 03:22:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 25 @ 1197.82
[2017-02-28 03:22:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 3300 @ 1197.82
[2017-02-28 03:22:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 1 @ 1201.03 :punch: :whale:
[2017-02-28 03:22:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 10 @ 1230.55
[2017-02-28 03:22:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 1940 @ 1199.79
[2017-02-28 03:23:04] Tetsuo : oh noez what´s happening
[2017-02-28 03:23:07] oz : O BOY
[2017-02-28 03:23:17] rapidtrades : Tetsuo: ur a genius m8
[2017-02-28 03:23:21] vgck : March dropped $30. What happened?
[2017-02-28 03:23:42] Tetsuo : rapidtrades: ? for discovering the scam?
[2017-02-28 03:23:48] rapidtrades : I think ur theory ha legs
[2017-02-28 03:23:49] -_- : wish i shorted at 1250 xbth17
[2017-02-28 03:23:54] Tetsuo : rapidtrades: i think too
[2017-02-28 03:24:11] -_- : vgck: someone shorted big
[2017-02-28 03:24:16] -_- : what's the news?
[2017-02-28 03:24:27] MikeHunt : double bottom
[2017-02-28 03:24:31] MikeHunt : okc wall staying put
[2017-02-28 03:24:31] Tetsuo : MikeHunt: plz mike
[2017-02-28 03:24:36] rapidtrades : no news :)
[2017-02-28 03:24:43] Tetsuo : LMAO
[2017-02-28 03:24:43] MikeHunt : Tetsuo: ?
[2017-02-28 03:24:57] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 1000 @ 1189.66
[2017-02-28 03:24:57] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 158537 @ 1190.07 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:
[2017-02-28 03:25:00] dodic : okc falling hard
[2017-02-28 03:25:01] arbitrage101 : buy da dip
[2017-02-28 03:25:01] .. : just way she goes
[2017-02-28 03:25:02] Tetsuo : rapidtrades: FEELS GOOD MAN
[2017-02-28 03:25:03] arbitrage101 : work everytime
[2017-02-28 03:25:10] .. : okc q 1161
[2017-02-28 03:25:13] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 20000 @ 1184.91
[2017-02-28 03:25:13] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 10000 @ 1208.00
[2017-02-28 03:25:13] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 12000 @ 1206.80
[2017-02-28 03:25:13] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 1001 @ 1207.53
[2017-02-28 03:25:21] arbitrage101 : holy
[2017-02-28 03:25:23] Tetsuo : FEELS GOOD MAN
[2017-02-28 03:25:27] Tetsuo : FEELS GOOD MAN
[2017-02-28 03:25:28] arbitrage101 : good time to buy!
[2017-02-28 03:25:28] MikeHunt : wall is truck
[2017-02-28 03:25:31] Tetsuo : FEELS GOOD MAN
[2017-02-28 03:25:31] arbitrage101 : mmoooon
[2017-02-28 03:25:31] .. : okc q 1154
[2017-02-28 03:25:32] MikeHunt : trick*
[2017-02-28 03:25:37] Tetsuo : LMAO
[2017-02-28 03:25:39] arbitrage101 : dip byung
[2017-02-28 03:25:44] oz : that dildo is quite red
[2017-02-28 03:25:47] Shaman : dip n dots?
[2017-02-28 03:25:50] arbitrage101 : have bid all the way down to 100
[2017-02-28 03:26:01] arbitrage101 : come fill me, baby
[2017-02-28 03:26:03] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 63414 @ 1174.10 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2017-02-28 03:26:03] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 120000 @ 1174.55 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:
[2017-02-28 03:26:03] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 89716 @ 1191.60 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2017-02-28 03:26:03] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 366564 @ 1194.05 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire:
[2017-02-28 03:26:03] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 2000 @ 1191.03
[2017-02-28 03:26:05] jezeus : lol just rekt on that one
[2017-02-28 03:26:06] mtourig3 : buy tha dippp
[2017-02-28 03:26:11] oz : BUY THE DIPP
[2017-02-28 03:26:19] Tetsuo : DIPSHITS
[2017-02-28 03:26:25] aandy : is there any news ?
[2017-02-28 03:26:27] oz : How low will it go
[2017-02-28 03:26:29] aandy : or good old dump
[2017-02-28 03:26:38] Shaman : interesting
[2017-02-28 03:26:49] ayy_lmao : looool
[2017-02-28 03:27:02] .. : just bitcoin
[2017-02-28 03:27:03] Tetsuo : girls , this is serious
[2017-02-28 03:27:23] MikeHunt : that was brutal
[2017-02-28 03:27:33] Tetsuo : fukk u bitkorners, fukk ur life
[2017-02-28 03:27:35] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 2800 @ 1176.38
[2017-02-28 03:27:41] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 50002 @ 1179.42 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2017-02-28 03:27:44] aandy : there ya gooooooooooo
[2017-02-28 03:27:47] oz : LMAO
[2017-02-28 03:27:55] oz : rekt up and down
[2017-02-28 03:27:58] oz : rekt all around
[2017-02-28 03:27:59] -_- : that makes me mad
[2017-02-28 03:28:06] -_- : didnt long that 300k wall at 1182
[2017-02-28 03:28:13] ayy_lmao : lol
[2017-02-28 03:28:16] -_- : but probably good because it could have kept tanking
[2017-02-28 03:28:17] mtourig3 : ya wowww
[2017-02-28 03:28:20] Tetsuo : THE BIG ATH FAKEOUT OF 2017
[2017-02-28 03:28:50] oz : when in doubt buy more?
[2017-02-28 03:29:03] mtourig3 : crazy buying..
[2017-02-28 03:29:05] aandy : had 3 limits trigered im happy :)
[2017-02-28 03:29:19] aandy : /sentiment
[2017-02-28 03:29:22] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 70.63 / 29.38 Daily : 54.36 / 45.64 Weekly : 49.11 / 50.89 Monthly : 48.30 / 51.70```
[2017-02-28 03:30:00] Tetsuo : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxLMr784l0Q&feature=youtu.be&t=57s
[2017-02-28 03:30:14] rapidtrades : /price
[2017-02-28 03:30:17] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1190.46 (-1.58%) Bitfinex : 1191.80 (-1.89%) The Woodchipper : 1177.74 (-2.07%) itBit : 1191.00 (-1.65%) Kraken : 1195.10 (-0.93%) GDAX : 1193.07 (-1.59%) Last query : 1466 Seconds ago.```
[2017-02-28 03:30:18] Tetsuo : tell me bullZ how does it feel
[2017-02-28 03:30:33] rangle : feels like profit
[2017-02-28 03:30:39] JT : yep feels fine to me
[2017-02-28 03:31:21] rangle : cant say the same for that 300000 rekt
[2017-02-28 03:31:52] MikeHunt : tried to long 1180, bad move lol
[2017-02-28 03:32:02] REKT : Blood on the streets!
[2017-02-28 03:32:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTH17`: buy 34 @ 1219.54
[2017-02-28 03:32:08] MikeHunt : i knew this was manipulated but that much...jezuz
[2017-02-28 03:32:15] ayy_lmao : lol triple banga
[2017-02-28 03:32:41] Sultan Pepper : Moon fuel
[2017-02-28 03:32:55] jezeus : these wicks sometimes predicate big moves in the opposite direction. Wipe out all the current long stops before taking off.
[2017-02-28 03:33:06] .. : lowest I got filled was 1153.90, looks not too bad now
[2017-02-28 03:33:29] aandy : /sentiment
[2017-02-28 03:33:30] .. : really rewarding here on bitmex to have some active orders
[2017-02-28 03:33:32] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 64.99 / 35.01 Daily : 54.60 / 45.40 Weekly : 49.16 / 50.84 Monthly : 48.32 / 51.68```
[2017-02-28 03:35:32] Tetsuo : lol okkorn quarterlys dropped 100$
[2017-02-28 03:35:45] micmix : free money all around
[2017-02-28 03:36:38] MikeHunt : got a good long in there
[2017-02-28 03:36:45] MikeHunt : hopefully it'll cover my 1180 derp
[2017-02-28 03:41:54] Brazilian Goat : /price
[2017-02-28 03:42:00] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1196.28 (0.49%) Bitfinex : 1198.20 (0.54%) The Woodchipper : 1186.12 (0.71%) itBit : 1198.64 (0.64%) Kraken : 1197.73 (0.22%) GDAX : 1203.02 (0.83%) Last query : 703 Seconds ago.```
[2017-02-28 03:42:45] -_- : rofl
[2017-02-28 03:42:53] Brazilian Goat : That dip was just for geting people rekt lol
[2017-02-28 03:42:56] -_- : just noticed okc quarterly has only 551,954 open contracts now
[2017-02-28 03:43:10] -_- : someone closed 60,000 recently
[2017-02-28 03:43:23] -_- : during that $100 dump
[2017-02-28 03:43:51] aandy : dayum
[2017-02-28 03:43:53] -_- : going to be a ghost town over there soon
[2017-02-28 03:44:10] datboiyuan : killing h17
[2017-02-28 03:44:12] aandy : seems to happen everytime it goes a decent amount over 1200
[2017-02-28 03:44:28] aandy : whales farting out profit
[2017-02-28 03:44:59] JT : all i can do is fart out methane :(
[2017-02-28 03:45:20] -_- : something doesnt feel right
[2017-02-28 03:45:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 22000 @ 1187.89
[2017-02-28 03:45:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 100 @ 1187.74
[2017-02-28 03:46:08] Brazilian Goat : Noobs
[2017-02-28 03:46:30] Tetsuo : Abandon ship bitkorners, you´t ger a lot more warning signs!
[2017-02-28 03:46:52] Tetsuo : +won´t get a
[2017-02-28 03:47:33] Tetsuo : shortin Bitkorn now is like buyin @150 in 2015, it takes balls
[2017-02-28 03:47:49] longbydefault : ??
[2017-02-28 03:47:55] Tetsuo : yes sir
[2017-02-28 03:48:16] longbydefault : the things coming out of your mouth
[2017-02-28 03:48:29] longbydefault : ??
[2017-02-28 03:53:37] vgck : /sentiment
[2017-02-28 03:53:39] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 63.62 / 36.38 Daily : 54.14 / 45.86 Weekly : 49.15 / 50.85 Monthly : 48.32 / 51.68```
[2017-02-28 03:53:51] cookielito : shorting right now is insane
[2017-02-28 03:54:25] vgck : What if it goes to 880? Then its brilliant
[2017-02-28 03:55:27] aandy : i dont think its gonna go down until very close to ETF
[2017-02-28 03:55:42] rapidtrades : ha
[2017-02-28 03:55:57] datboiyuan : etc could be anytime
[2017-02-28 03:56:00] datboiyuan : etf
[2017-02-28 03:56:18] aandy : maybe its already approved who knows
[2017-02-28 03:56:26] aandy : you guys know better then me
[2017-02-28 03:56:29] -_- : maybe they are changing their minds
[2017-02-28 03:56:35] -_- : to not approving it
[2017-02-28 03:56:39] -_- : and insiders are dumping
[2017-02-28 03:56:46] datboiyuan : no way
[2017-02-28 03:57:00] rapidtrades : you were warned yet u didn't listen
[2017-02-28 03:57:00] vgck : Maybe we cant go up any higer without etf so now we go down so we can go back up
[2017-02-28 03:57:03] rapidtrades : now u die
[2017-02-28 03:57:03] datboiyuan : it'd be much harsher than $20
[2017-02-28 03:57:12] -_- : give the impression they will for the pump. then dump and change their minds. buy low. then approve it in 6 months when the winkletwins reapply
[2017-02-28 03:57:31] datboiyuan : hmmm
[2017-02-28 03:57:40] ayy_lmao : 2 much conspiracy
[2017-02-28 03:57:41] -_- : stamp dumping again
[2017-02-28 03:57:43] ayy_lmao : not enough chart
[2017-02-28 03:57:57] datboiyuan : there are 2 other rtfs slated for decision
[2017-02-28 03:58:29] rapidtrades : yea gl with that
[2017-02-28 03:58:32] mtourig3 : -_-: thats just a orderbook gap
[2017-02-28 03:58:59] -_- : stamp has no buy orders till 1178.
[2017-02-28 03:59:11] -_- : just 1 that flashes sometimes
[2017-02-28 03:59:36] -_- : finex has a bunch of high longs that could panic close in a dump
[2017-02-28 03:59:44] -_- : china has no issues with dumping
[2017-02-28 04:00:09] longbydefault : nobody knows really...
[2017-02-28 04:00:30] longbydefault : everyone acts like they know...
[2017-02-28 04:01:13] Tetsuo : quarterlys almost back at backwardation@stamp
[2017-02-28 04:01:27] cookielito : longbydefault: as long as they arnt academics
[2017-02-28 04:01:41] -_- : if this dumps bitmex order books will be empty
[2017-02-28 04:01:43] -_- : good luck longs
[2017-02-28 04:01:43] cookielito : longbydefault: I have no problem with people acting like they know
[2017-02-28 04:02:56] longbydefault : cookielito: me too... just an observation
[2017-02-28 04:03:06] mtourig3 : now is the time to buy
[2017-02-28 04:03:11] mtourig3 : imo
[2017-02-28 04:03:24] cookielito : longbydefault: I really dislike academics especially when it comes to trading
[2017-02-28 04:03:31] rapidtrades : LORD THEY WERE WARNED
[2017-02-28 04:03:36] Tetsuo : FEELS GOOD MAN
[2017-02-28 04:03:36] Sultan Pepper : Aaaaand discount
[2017-02-28 04:03:40] rapidtrades : BUT THEY DIDNT LISTEN
[2017-02-28 04:03:48] cookielito : mtourig3: We are due for a dump but yes still good time to buy
[2017-02-28 04:03:48] rapidtrades : OR CHANGE THEIR SINFUL WAYS
[2017-02-28 04:04:00] cookielito : rapidtrades: Oh I listened
[2017-02-28 04:04:10] rapidtrades : GOOD
[2017-02-28 04:04:15] -_- : i wouldnt long bitmex. get stuck in a long with empty order book in a dump...i'd buy the dip when you know dump is over and it's bouncing
[2017-02-28 04:04:16] cookielito : rapidtrades: No way in hell im shorting
[2017-02-28 04:04:17] cookielito : thoigh
[2017-02-28 04:04:21] rapidtrades : BUT REST OF LONGS DIDN'T LISTEN
[2017-02-28 04:04:41] rapidtrades : THE LORD WILL SMITE THEM SOON
[2017-02-28 04:04:45] mtourig3 : -_-: already did that
[2017-02-28 04:04:45] cookielito : rapidtrades: This is going to be very very very interesting
[2017-02-28 04:04:56] cookielito : rapidtrades: Name a bottom
[2017-02-28 04:05:24] datboiyuan : 0
[2017-02-28 04:05:36] -_- : 1060 would be where i say the bottom is on bitfinex / stamp if this dumps
[2017-02-28 04:05:53] -_- : so like 1000 on bitmex
[2017-02-28 04:05:55] -_- : or under
[2017-02-28 04:06:05] rapidtrades : cookielito: 880
[2017-02-28 04:06:07] MikeHunt : 1160 on okc qrt
[2017-02-28 04:06:18] MikeHunt : unless they wanna crash this pre-ETF
[2017-02-28 04:06:21] cookielito : rapidtrades: Good god man
[2017-02-28 04:06:53] MikeHunt : could also be 1060
[2017-02-28 04:06:59] MikeHunt : depends how deep they wanna go
[2017-02-28 04:07:47] cookielito : MikeHunt: Im thinking deep
[2017-02-28 04:08:06] cookielito : MikeHunt: And im typically bullish as hell
[2017-02-28 04:08:14] nourozi : Hi, can anyone tell me why the testnet.bitmex charts are way different to the bitmex.com charts? How can we realistically paper trade and test a strategy if the test vs live are totally different?
[2017-02-28 04:08:40] javierstone : u ever dry hump cordiroy?
[2017-02-28 04:08:58] javierstone : nourozi: ever?
[2017-02-28 04:09:25] arbitrage101 : another chance to buy da dip
[2017-02-28 04:09:26] MikeHunt : anyone tried cryptotrader.com ?
[2017-02-28 04:09:31] BitMEX_John : nourozi: testnet is good for learning how the exchange works, calculations, automated trading integrations etc
[2017-02-28 04:09:40] .. : AFAIK you are just paper trading against other paper traders? Best to just test your strategy with small money here
[2017-02-28 04:09:56] MikeHunt : yeh or blow $4k like i did here
[2017-02-28 04:09:58] MikeHunt : fml
[2017-02-28 04:11:45] cookielito : MikeHunt: your not alone
[2017-02-28 04:11:55] cookielito : MikeHunt: but noverall life is good man
[2017-02-28 04:11:58] nourozi : I see, so developing a backtesting platform and testing the strategy against historical data would produce very similar results to live trading?
[2017-02-28 04:13:02] vgck : nourozi: Historical data is missing the currect events fundamental aspect you get when trading live
[2017-02-28 04:13:12] vgck : Paper would even be better I think
[2017-02-28 04:13:38] MikeHunt : cookielito: was it worth it in the end thou? do you earn now?
[2017-02-28 04:13:49] nourozi : Ok, I think I will just use testnet to make sure the strategy is working correctly and then use minimal amounts of money to test on bitmex live account
[2017-02-28 04:13:51] cookielito : MikeHunt: absolutely
[2017-02-28 04:14:01] MikeHunt : cookielito: how much total did it cost you?
[2017-02-28 04:14:04] cookielito : MikeHunt: you always need to lose big to learn how to trade an asset
[2017-02-28 04:14:11] cookielito : MikeHunt: 4.5 btc
[2017-02-28 04:14:19] MikeHunt : my total loss is 8.6BTC
[2017-02-28 04:14:37] cookielito : MikeHunt: stay away from high leverage
[2017-02-28 04:14:42] ayy_lmao : yes
[2017-02-28 04:14:45] MikeHunt : cookielito: whats the max u do?
[2017-02-28 04:14:45] cookielito : MikeHunt: it turns this into a casino
[2017-02-28 04:14:56] cookielito : MikeHunt: 10 in dire situations
[2017-02-28 04:15:23] mtourig3 : MikeHunt: you get margin called?
[2017-02-28 04:15:37] rapidtrades : if ur not consistently profitable just trade 1 contract
[2017-02-28 04:15:50] BitMEX_John : nourozi: best of luck, if you have any further questions please don't hesitate to contact us
[2017-02-28 04:15:50] MikeHunt : mtourig3: no i didnt let it get that far but i over the course of a few dozen trades i was down
[2017-02-28 04:16:28] vgck : rapidtrades: $1? Why not just testnet at that point?
[2017-02-28 04:16:30] rapidtrades : no point trading size if u don't have an edge, ur just gambling
[2017-02-28 04:16:32] MikeHunt : worst trade was a 4BTC loss
[2017-02-28 04:16:35] nourozi : BitMEX_John: Thanks!
[2017-02-28 04:16:50] rapidtrades : vgck: cos its not the same
[2017-02-28 04:16:51] MikeHunt : looking back i feel like a complete idiot
[2017-02-28 04:18:33] vgck : MikeHunt: Are you doing any better now?
[2017-02-28 04:18:36] ZsaZsaCrypto : Maybe as an idea write down each loss and the mistake made with how much it cost you... Then you'll have a nice investment in a book of trading lessons
[2017-02-28 04:18:39] cookielito : MikeHunt: are you done losing?
[2017-02-28 04:19:50] MikeHunt : cookielito: i hope so
[2017-02-28 04:19:52] -_- : dang price bounced again
[2017-02-28 04:20:10] cookielito : MikeHunt: Know so
[2017-02-28 04:20:26] cookielito : MikeHunt: get that cold blood running
[2017-02-28 04:20:49] cookielito : MikeHunt: and stay humble
[2017-02-28 04:20:55] -_- : guess a few more hours before the dump
[2017-02-28 04:21:13] cookielito : -_-: chinks need to go to lunch first
[2017-02-28 04:21:51] cookielito : no offense to my chinese brethren
[2017-02-28 04:21:52] vgck : -_-: Or maybe dump is over?
[2017-02-28 04:22:21] rapidtrades : PAYDAY
[2017-02-28 04:22:23] MikeHunt : prob see at least 1160-1170 on h17
[2017-02-28 04:22:42] -_- : seems bots have come back
[2017-02-28 04:22:58] -_- : they will slowly buy price back up like good little bots
[2017-02-28 04:23:02] vgck : MikeHunt: Sounds about right to me
[2017-02-28 04:23:13] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 5590 @ 1187.76
[2017-02-28 04:23:21] MikeHunt : considering how quickly i lost here im almost scared to put anymore back in
[2017-02-28 04:23:29] MikeHunt : maybe just stick to stamp or get a cryptotrader bot
[2017-02-28 04:23:32] vgck : Then dont
[2017-02-28 04:23:45] vgck : Leverage isnt really the problem
[2017-02-28 04:23:47] -_- : MikeHunt: you lost money on that dump and dpump
[2017-02-28 04:23:56] vgck : If you have trouble here same will happen at stamp
[2017-02-28 04:24:04] MikeHunt : the pump to 1280 killed my 4BTC i had left
[2017-02-28 04:24:10] MikeHunt : on stamp i made money
[2017-02-28 04:24:13] -_- : oh
[2017-02-28 04:24:19] datboiyuan : MikeHunt: you don't have money here?
[2017-02-28 04:24:26] datboiyuan : you just hang out in the troll box?
[2017-02-28 04:24:26] MikeHunt : about 70$ left
[2017-02-28 04:24:34] datboiyuan : oh I see
[2017-02-28 04:24:34] vgck : Ouch
[2017-02-28 04:24:36] rapidtrades : vgck: leverage is a major problem
[2017-02-28 04:24:47] MikeHunt : yeh i think im too impulsive with lvg
[2017-02-28 04:25:05] -_- : gotta increase leverage to make back the losses
[2017-02-28 04:25:31] abbey : more REKTs
[2017-02-28 04:25:40] Tetsuo : rapidtrades: i sold the other 50% of my cold storage in the last days, almost 120BTC. i have only 30 left for trading. I don´t regret it
[2017-02-28 04:25:41] -_- : well i didnt make back everything i lost yet
[2017-02-28 04:25:48] -_- : if i longed the dip under 1200 i may have
[2017-02-28 04:25:52] rapidtrades : abbey ur butt will be cracked soon!
[2017-02-28 04:26:13] -_- : Tetsuo: you sold and bought eth
[2017-02-28 04:26:18] rapidtrades : Tetsuo: seems like a prudent decision
[2017-02-28 04:26:28] abbey : rapidtrades: havent heard that one before, lol
[2017-02-28 04:26:37] Tetsuo : -_-: nah i cashed out for USD, but 25BTC have been converted to ETH , that´s right
[2017-02-28 04:26:38] MikeHunt : prob buy about $350 worth of eth tomorrow or when it corrects sufficiently
[2017-02-28 04:26:43] arbitrage101 : stick with wining stragegy @MikeHunt
[2017-02-28 04:26:52] arbitrage101 : buy da dip have never fail once
[2017-02-28 04:27:04] -_- : i feel like i will be at computer for next 5 hours waiting for the big move. hope i'm not disappointed
[2017-02-28 04:27:08] arbitrage101 : work every got damn time
[2017-02-28 04:27:35] rapidtrades : wow that selling
[2017-02-28 04:27:40] MikeHunt : arbitrage101: yeh i just gotta watch out for the walls
[2017-02-28 04:28:16] MikeHunt : i longed 1180 and then it collapsed
[2017-02-28 04:28:18] MikeHunt : had to bail
[2017-02-28 04:28:20] MikeHunt : lost a bit there
[2017-02-28 04:28:44] arbitrage101 : what bail
[2017-02-28 04:28:50] MikeHunt : sell off
[2017-02-28 04:28:51] arbitrage101 : it is not 1190
[2017-02-28 04:28:54] arbitrage101 : now
[2017-02-28 04:28:55] vgck : Why not just wait it out? Was gonna come back eventually
[2017-02-28 04:29:18] arbitrage101 : what is your position compare to your size
[2017-02-28 04:29:26] arbitrage101 : capital i mean
[2017-02-28 04:29:50] MikeHunt : arbitrage101: i mean wen it was 1180 about an hour ago
[2017-02-28 04:30:34] arbitrage101 : should learn how to trade before risking much capital
[2017-02-28 04:30:48] MikeHunt : arbitrage101: yep, expensive lesson learnt
[2017-02-28 04:31:01] abbey : lots of traders get rekt by these swings, not me. Happy days!
[2017-02-28 04:31:38] MikeHunt : i think in future ill keep a small amount here just to play with until i learning good and rest at stamp with a bot
[2017-02-28 04:31:41] Tetsuo : I really like this statement: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C5VU7yxUkAAE9_W.jpg
[2017-02-28 04:32:02] micmix : bitcoin was super easy to trade since mid of 2014. just buy the dips with low leverage
[2017-02-28 04:32:28] arbitrage101 : micmix: 20/20 hindsight
[2017-02-28 04:32:40] arbitrage101 : not so easy to trade now, in my view
[2017-02-28 04:33:04] micmix : no hindsight, all you need is to look at 1w long-term MA
[2017-02-28 04:33:23] MikeHunt : micmix: and now?
[2017-02-28 04:33:27] MikeHunt : the same or?
[2017-02-28 04:33:31] micmix : still the same
[2017-02-28 04:33:40] rapidtrades : bullshit
[2017-02-28 04:34:03] MikeHunt : maybe i can turn $70 into $7k
[2017-02-28 04:34:04] arbitrage101 : trading based on induction logic can be dangerous
[2017-02-28 04:34:27] arbitrage101 : but worked so far this year
[2017-02-28 04:35:11] abbey : yeah, the trend is ur friend
[2017-02-28 04:35:17] micmix : MikeHunt: you can't, you will not survive the dips with higher leverage
[2017-02-28 04:35:45] abbey : micmix: exactly
[2017-02-28 04:35:50] rapidtrades : all trends end with a major reversal/crash
[2017-02-28 04:36:04] rapidtrades : so using low leverage will not save u
[2017-02-28 04:36:11] MikeHunt : micmix: i mean doing it with sensible leverage over time
[2017-02-28 04:36:18] rapidtrades : u will lose profits from multiple trades when it happens
[2017-02-28 04:36:21] micmix : rapidtrades: yep, and you need to scale out of your position on the way up
[2017-02-28 04:36:28] arbitrage101 : there is no sensible leverage
[2017-02-28 04:36:36] vgck : If they price crashes far enough you can still be liquidated on lowest leverage
[2017-02-28 04:36:37] rapidtrades : ok, again hindsight is 20/20
[2017-02-28 04:36:47] MikeHunt : sounds like im fucked either way
[2017-02-28 04:37:00] cryptillian : all in x100 is the only way
[2017-02-28 04:37:00] arbitrage101 : mp ca[ital \\, dont trade
[2017-02-28 04:37:10] vgck : cryptillian: +1
[2017-02-28 04:37:21] arbitrage101 : if you dont have capital, dont trade
[2017-02-28 04:37:30] rapidtrades : WRONG
[2017-02-28 04:37:49] arbitrage101 : do brokering to save some capital
[2017-02-28 04:37:56] abbey : rapidtrades: the trend isnt reversing anywhere
[2017-02-28 04:37:59] cryptillian : NO
[2017-02-28 04:38:12] rapidtrades : abbey: watch ur butt abbey!
[2017-02-28 04:38:36] micmix : arbs are safer than trend following, I can't argue with that
[2017-02-28 04:38:47] arbitrage101 : safer == less profit
[2017-02-28 04:39:10] cryptillian : sad
[2017-02-28 04:39:25] arbitrage101 : no free lunch in anything
[2017-02-28 04:39:36] arbitrage101 : you want to profit a lot, then you need to risk a lot
[2017-02-28 04:39:42] cryptillian : all is rekt
[2017-02-28 04:39:50] cryptillian : life is rekt
[2017-02-28 04:40:12] abbey : rapidtrades: My butt is safe, I know how to use stops. And my stops give me profit, how about ur short, how much negative already?
[2017-02-28 04:40:38] Tetsuo : how do these stops work out in flash crashes
[2017-02-28 04:40:46] cryptillian : 70% i thinkl
[2017-02-28 04:42:38] arbitrage101 : Tetsuo: wont work at all
[2017-02-28 04:45:46] vgck : So looks like the dump is over right? Now we retest ATH, or?
[2017-02-28 04:46:17] abbey : short more the bull market bears, and its all going to be just fine.
[2017-02-28 04:48:45] -_- : still going to dump $130 soon
[2017-02-28 04:49:46] MikeHunt : ~1050
[2017-02-28 04:49:50] MikeHunt : on h17
[2017-02-28 04:59:44] cryptillian : -_-: how?
[2017-02-28 04:59:56] -_- : how what
[2017-02-28 05:00:13] cryptillian : howbau
[2017-02-28 05:01:13] cryptillian : nau?
[2017-02-28 05:02:30] .. : /price
[2017-02-28 05:02:35] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1195.01 (-0.11%) Bitfinex : 1198.20 (0.00%) The Woodchipper : 1186.39 (0.02%) itBit : 1198.74 (0.01%) Kraken : 1194.10 (-0.30%) GDAX : 1197.38 (-0.47%) Last query : 4835 Seconds ago.```
[2017-02-28 05:03:52] MikeHunt : coinbase guy thinks eth could replace btc
[2017-02-28 05:22:53] abbey : some others think it can't
[2017-02-28 05:25:14] noah sark : why is it that when using isolated margin at 100x leverage my position will liquidate after about a 0.5% ($6) run in the opposite direction? I thought it should liquidate after a 1% ($12) run?
[2017-02-28 05:28:17] BitMEX_John : noah sark: your liquidation price allows enough margin that our engine can close your position without incuring a loss
[2017-02-28 05:28:51] BitMEX_John : noah sark: you can read more about liquidation here - https://www.bitmex.com/app/liquidation
[2017-02-28 05:31:41] Rado : that was a cool $100 drop on XBTH17
[2017-02-28 05:36:34] -_- : it was
[2017-02-28 05:36:43] -_- : i longed the top 10 seconds before the dump
[2017-02-28 05:36:52] -_- : lost some money
[2017-02-28 05:37:16] -_- : now i'm waiting for the next dump to long the dip
[2017-02-28 05:37:23] -_- : and make everything back
[2017-02-28 05:37:34] -_- : i knew i should have waited for the dip but gave up waiting 10 seconds for the dump
[2017-02-28 05:38:23] noah sark : does the liquidation price ever change based on the amount of btc in the insurance fund or anything else? I swear a while ago I was getting pretty much exactly what I thought I should be getting. eg. if btc was $1000, with leverage 10x my liquidation would be $900, but now today it would be sitting around $915 for the same order.
[2017-02-28 05:38:58] -_- : eth going back up
[2017-02-28 05:39:06] -_- : once 0.0135 breaks...
[2017-02-28 05:39:14] noah sark : for a long order
[2017-02-28 05:39:24] BitMEX_John : noah sark: liquidation price is uneffected by the size of the insurance fund
[2017-02-28 05:39:36] Tetsuo : -_-: there are no words on how bullish i am on ETH
[2017-02-28 05:39:40] Rado : noah sark: it's based on mark price and what you have in your account
[2017-02-28 05:39:53] Rado : if you have less BTC now the liqudation price will be higher
[2017-02-28 05:40:29] -_- : Tetsuo: any inside info
[2017-02-28 05:41:10] noah sark : I only use isolated margin (set leverage) though, I thought that the liquidation price shouldn't change then based on what you have in your account
[2017-02-28 05:41:11] Tetsuo : -_-: BTC failin? Intel, JPMorgan and Microsoft agreein on usin ETH?
[2017-02-28 05:41:41] -_- : meh not like they actually buy and use ETH.
[2017-02-28 05:41:57] -_- : just bought $25 worth of Bitcoin and the suggested fee was $1.66! That's 6.6%. Who can seriously claim this isn't broken?
[2017-02-28 05:42:03] Tetsuo : they have chosen the crypto of the future
[2017-02-28 05:42:05] Rado : noah sark: what do you think covers your trade?
[2017-02-28 05:42:15] Tetsuo : -_-: it is
[2017-02-28 05:42:19] Rado : it's the BTC you have
[2017-02-28 05:42:27] Rado : if you don't have any you can't place a trade
[2017-02-28 05:42:55] BitMEX_John : noah sark: it also depends on the margin requirements for a contract
[2017-02-28 05:43:16] BitMEX_John : noah sark: some contracts have a higher margin requirement than others
[2017-02-28 05:46:36] BitMEX_John : noah sark: also you are corrected that in an isolated margin scenario your margin requirement is static and won't change depending on your account balance
[2017-02-28 05:47:40] BitMEX_John : correct*
[2017-02-28 05:48:11] MikeHunt : if ETF fails, game over for btc imo