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[2017-02-27 16:51:11] wurstgelee : cept rapidtrades
[2017-02-27 16:51:28] -_- : i dont want to fomo in this high
[2017-02-27 16:51:31] pat : somebody is buying big time on finex
[2017-02-27 16:51:54] pat : -_-: good
[2017-02-27 16:52:04] -_- : i'll fomo in $20 from now
[2017-02-27 16:52:57] KyllingLolsson : And boom goes the dynamite
[2017-02-27 16:53:23] KyllingLolsson : *clevelands voice*
[2017-02-27 16:53:31] rustiv : "i just bought lots of altcoins this morning"
[2017-02-27 16:54:13] MrRGnome : I can't wait until etf is approved and Ver can go home crying with his dash
[2017-02-27 16:54:34] KyllingLolsson : I bought a fukkton of btc this morning
[2017-02-27 16:54:49] Lybs : Bitmex support here?
[2017-02-27 16:54:50] mtourig3 : KyllingLolsson: how much is a fukkton
[2017-02-27 16:55:10] shiroe : damn
[2017-02-27 16:56:28] KyllingLolsson : 2 btc @mtourig3
[2017-02-27 16:56:29] mahouni : I think were going this way: https://youtu.be/OtXfJkkfaOk
[2017-02-27 16:56:36] heheh lo : dash is shit
[2017-02-27 16:58:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: sell 250 @ 0.012210
[2017-02-27 17:05:35] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 1000 @ 1193.94
[2017-02-27 17:07:50] cmwprice : /price
[2017-02-27 17:07:55] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1196.70 (0.26%) Bitfinex : 1199.00 (-0.17%) The Woodchipper : 1192.46 (0.55%) itBit : 1197.25 (0.36%) Kraken : 1194.93 (0.16%) GDAX : 1198.97 (0.27%) Last query : 1064 Seconds ago.```
[2017-02-27 17:08:21] binacoin : A newbie here. I opened a long position 3000 contracts at 20x leverage, my liquidation price is around $1140, I want to know how I can add a stop loss to my position. Is the possible?
[2017-02-27 17:08:41] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 500 @ 1195.34
[2017-02-27 17:08:41] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 28 @ 1195.50
[2017-02-27 17:09:44] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: sanka you ded?
[2017-02-27 17:11:50] cryptillian : kiss my lucky egg
[2017-02-27 17:13:00] GTmann : binacoin: under place order, youll see stops , to right of Limit
[2017-02-27 17:14:47] binacoin : Gtmann: thank you for the reply. Can I add the stop market or stop limit to my already opened position?
[2017-02-27 17:15:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: sell 1313 @ 0.012170
[2017-02-27 17:15:36] cryptillian : yes add 3000 at stop market at your preffered price
[2017-02-27 17:15:41] rapidtrades : binacoin: check close on trigger
[2017-02-27 17:15:45] NooBTCrader : /price
[2017-02-27 17:15:48] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1193.41 (-0.27%) Bitfinex : 1200.00 (0.08%) The Woodchipper : 1192.65 (0.02%) itBit : 1197.10 (-0.01%) Kraken : 1194.99 (0.01%) GDAX : 1198.96 (0.00%) Last query : 473 Seconds ago.```
[2017-02-27 17:16:58] cryptillian : set sell stop xxxxprice
[2017-02-27 17:17:07] binacoin : Thank guys rapidtrades and cryptillian, that was helpul
[2017-02-27 17:17:33] MikeHunt : /wall
[2017-02-27 17:17:37] trollbot : ``` Combined order book of 4 major exchanges: Asks: 5167 Ƀ (12.13%) Bids: 3126 Ƀ (-6.13%) ±$30 deviation from the current price. Last query: 18315 Seconds ago.```
[2017-02-27 17:17:40] cryptillian : binacoin: this platform is a bit different than ok and so
[2017-02-27 17:17:45] cryptoyolo : thinking about closing this long and going out to smoke drugs and drink beer
[2017-02-27 17:17:55] MikeHunt : cryptoyolo: set a stop and let this thing fly?
[2017-02-27 17:17:55] cryptoyolo : but the greed is too much
[2017-02-27 17:18:01] binacoin : couldn't sleep well last night, I was dreaming all sorts of dumping dreams :D
[2017-02-27 17:18:07] cryptoyolo : i have my stop set up
[2017-02-27 17:18:16] cryptoyolo : but its kinda loose
[2017-02-27 17:18:31] MikeHunt : kinda pissed i left my long went to sleep but put stop to high
[2017-02-27 17:18:33] MikeHunt : fuck
[2017-02-27 17:18:44] cryptoyolo : i really wanna keep these 20$up profit
[2017-02-27 17:18:53] Ahhere : did bitcoin ded yet guise?
[2017-02-27 17:18:55] MikeHunt : cryptoyolo: move ur stop up then
[2017-02-27 17:18:58] cryptillian : cryptoyolo: if you check stops youll see hoq many points above triggering that stop you are
[2017-02-27 17:19:06] cryptillian : how
[2017-02-27 17:19:07] MikeHunt : Ahhere: apparently no death until ETF just up
[2017-02-27 17:19:08] cryptoyolo : i know it guys xD
[2017-02-27 17:19:15] cryptoyolo : its a trailing stop
[2017-02-27 17:19:31] Ahhere : thats gr8 I knew my long was a great idea how do i have these great ideas
[2017-02-27 17:20:08] jayesh : Damn this Index Price..
[2017-02-27 17:20:12] gustavo7 : /wall
[2017-02-27 17:20:14] trollbot : ``` Combined order book of 4 major exchanges: Asks: 4956 Ƀ (7.55%) Bids: 3132 Ƀ (-5.95%) ±$30 deviation from the current price. Last query: 157 Seconds ago.```
[2017-02-27 17:20:22] cryptoyolo : also, i do a lot of minor scalping
[2017-02-27 17:20:33] Ahhere : cryptoyolo: sounds painful
[2017-02-27 17:20:41] jayesh : /joke
[2017-02-27 17:20:52] gustavo7 : such wall at .69
[2017-02-27 17:20:53] cryptoyolo : what can i do, im hooked on charts
[2017-02-27 17:20:53] trollbot : ``` I yelled at my wife today for keeping broken condoms on the sofa She answered that I shouldn't call our kids like that```
[2017-02-27 17:21:26] gustavo7 : nvm gone
[2017-02-27 17:24:27] snakecha : /price
[2017-02-27 17:24:30] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1190.01 (-0.28%) Bitfinex : 1197.90 (-0.17%) The Woodchipper : 1191.61 (-0.09%) itBit : 1195.96 (-0.10%) Kraken : 1195.00 (0.00%) GDAX : 1198.97 (0.00%) Last query : 522 Seconds ago.```
[2017-02-27 17:26:35] longbydefault : what's everyone's opinion on xmr price?
[2017-02-27 17:27:18] MikeHunt : longbydefault: wedge
[2017-02-27 17:27:35] MikeHunt : should bounce around 0.004
[2017-02-27 17:27:41] longbydefault : MikeHunt: is it underpriced? haha
[2017-02-27 17:28:03] longbydefault : that's really low... thanks
[2017-02-27 17:28:18] MikeHunt : i might be wrong thou, if btc drops it might be used as a hedge and go up
[2017-02-27 17:28:29] MikeHunt : 0.01 also might be new support
[2017-02-27 17:30:00] BTCDJS : Welp. I was wrong about TSLA. The lack of bullish news brought price back down
[2017-02-27 17:30:24] BTCDJS : Looking to buy at 158.70
[2017-02-27 17:30:46] mahouni : Im going to check long TSLA options first sticker to come up here
[2017-02-27 17:30:49] mahouni : should be good
[2017-02-27 17:31:47] BTCDJS : mahouni: Where would you trade it? 1Broker?
[2017-02-27 17:32:02] mahouni : lol IB
[2017-02-27 17:32:16] mahouni : interactive brokers
[2017-02-27 17:32:33] mtourig3 : dont you need like 40k$ to use that?
[2017-02-27 17:32:41] BTCDJS : whats wrong with 1Broker brah?
[2017-02-27 17:32:53] mahouni : 15k to open account I think
[2017-02-27 17:32:56] mahouni : or 10k
[2017-02-27 17:33:13] mahouni : I dont even know what that is? is it good?
[2017-02-27 17:33:20] sleger : yes but trading options without portfolio margining is expensive
[2017-02-27 17:33:28] BTCDJS : You trade with bitcoins there
[2017-02-27 17:33:43] BTCDJS : 15X for TSLA
[2017-02-27 17:34:05] mahouni : :D CDF's or what do they call them?
[2017-02-27 17:34:19] sleger : its cfd not cdf
[2017-02-27 17:34:21] BTCDJS : YUP
[2017-02-27 17:34:27] BTCDJS : CDF
[2017-02-27 17:34:29] CBF : u rang?
[2017-02-27 17:34:33] CBF : oo nvm
[2017-02-27 17:35:02] BTCDJS : CFD
[2017-02-27 17:35:08] BTCDJS : knacker
[2017-02-27 17:35:35] BTCDJS : 500BTC limit
[2017-02-27 17:35:54] BTCDJS : Spread 0.1
[2017-02-27 17:36:21] mahouni : Yeah I dont know you have to know thats its quite a risk for dealing with those bucket shops
[2017-02-27 17:36:45] BTCDJS : Why?
[2017-02-27 17:37:10] mahouni : Is the KYC rules or anything or is it like bitmex
[2017-02-27 17:37:14] Ugly_Old_Goat : BTCDJS: nothng wrong with 1btroker. I have small account there, like 2btc
[2017-02-27 17:37:15] sleger : spread 0.1 and fees ?
[2017-02-27 17:37:40] BTCDJS : mahouni: No KYC
[2017-02-27 17:37:56] BTCDJS : so yeah I suppose its risky then
[2017-02-27 17:38:45] BTCDJS : sleger: Checking the fees now
[2017-02-27 17:38:54] Ugly_Old_Goat : BTCDJS: Here is my referral link if you open an account. thanks, uog
[2017-02-27 17:38:57] BTCDJS : Its usually an overnight thing
[2017-02-27 17:39:45] pat : girls, whats happening in BTC
[2017-02-27 17:39:47] mahouni : Do they drive and manipulate the price to find stops in day trading like DAX? Any experience how accurate/trustable the pricing mechanistic is?
[2017-02-27 17:40:04] BTCDJS : sleger: Overnight financing 0.02%
[2017-02-27 17:40:52] sleger : not too bad
[2017-02-27 17:41:01] j8 : they quote wherever they want
[2017-02-27 17:41:12] prueba : what are the odds of the future btc below the original? I suposse it depends on the trend, right? if the market is bullish it'll be above if bearish below. am I wrong?
[2017-02-27 17:41:29] binacoin : I'm back again....how do I open future contract on bitmex?
[2017-02-27 17:41:36] BTCDJS : Very easy and simple to understand UI too.
[2017-02-27 17:41:37] sleger : j8: yes but you can have one account short and one long if they play these games...
[2017-02-27 17:42:09] j8 : sure, it's in their interest to quote on market
[2017-02-27 17:42:21] BTCDJS : You can long and short on 1Broker at the same time with one account
[2017-02-27 17:42:43] j8 : first time i used them the market flash crashed, i had a winning position and they stopped quoting entirely
[2017-02-27 17:43:12] j8 : that was not a normal day though
[2017-02-27 17:43:16] sleger : ah and i guess they liquidated the people long even though they were not quoting
[2017-02-27 17:43:49] j8 : maybe, i don't have any reason to believe that though
[2017-02-27 17:44:33] j8 : they do some things which are sloppy but not always in their favour
[2017-02-27 17:45:23] j8 : like if you have a limit order, and the next tick goes way through it, they give you the tick price
[2017-02-27 17:46:09] mahouni : Ok thanks good to know might deposit.
[2017-02-27 17:46:24] mahouni : Howbout withdrawals?
[2017-02-27 17:47:34] BTCDJS : easy never had any problems
[2017-02-27 17:48:01] BTCDJS : cold wallets, 2FA etc
[2017-02-27 17:48:23] mahouni : ok thanks
[2017-02-27 17:49:07] binacoin : please how do I open a future contract to avoid swap funding.
[2017-02-27 17:49:29] rullwull : mahouni: i made over 500 btc on simplefx during 2016, never had any problems with withdrawals, didn't use 1briker for a long time, but never heard any complains about it
[2017-02-27 17:51:18] mahouni : rullwull: may I ask what do you speculate on? simplefx is currency pairs?
[2017-02-27 17:51:31] cmwprice : /price
[2017-02-27 17:51:35] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1196.84 (0.57%) Bitfinex : 1198.00 (0.01%) The Woodchipper : 1191.40 (-0.02%) itBit : 1196.00 (0.00%) Kraken : 1196.99 (0.17%) GDAX : 1198.13 (-0.07%) Last query : 1625 Seconds ago.```
[2017-02-27 17:51:48] rullwull : yen, pound and crude @mahouni
[2017-02-27 17:52:23] Chewie : Press buy or sell, whatever direction u want. @binacoin same as swap...
[2017-02-27 17:52:40] rullwull : mahouni: simplefx is fx broker where you can trade using crypto for margin, same as 1broker
[2017-02-27 17:53:37] mahouni : rullwull: I think I have checked their site once before long time ago.You still hold account on traditional trading shops(IB n such)?
[2017-02-27 17:54:36] binacoin : @Chewie, how do I access the future tab
[2017-02-27 17:54:37] binacoin : ?
[2017-02-27 17:55:09] Chewie : Under XBT, look for XBTH17
[2017-02-27 17:55:22] Chewie : or on the scroll bar, can't miss it
[2017-02-27 17:55:59] Chewie : rullwull: I tried simplefx.. watch out for that bucketshop stop hunting
[2017-02-27 17:56:09] -_- : rullwull: damn Awesome
[2017-02-27 17:56:27] -_- : Simplefx I'll probably get rekt trying to trade it
[2017-02-27 17:57:28] binacoin : ah.....thanks @Chewie
[2017-02-27 17:57:46] rullwull : mahouni: i have 2 traditional brokers accounts who offer direct trades on exchanges, not CFD. But in 2016 i only use them to buy physical gold. currently trade only crypto, this is the most profitable market at the moment
[2017-02-27 17:58:26] mahouni : you like the action / pace and volatility huh
[2017-02-27 17:59:23] mahouni : Oil + pound + crypto 2015-2017 :D tons of volatility
[2017-02-27 18:00:02] rullwull : Chewie: what do u mean stop hunting? never seen anything suspicious, simps fx get quotations from 2 big liquidity providers, as i know they have changed one of it. so they simply replace your orders to their book. these LP are big players, don't think they r interesting in your stops
[2017-02-27 18:01:56] cryptokeeper : sold some 1200 spot.... thank the lord!
[2017-02-27 18:02:34] BTCDJS : Amen
[2017-02-27 18:02:43] BTCDJS : thank you Jesus
[2017-02-27 18:02:59] cryptokeeper : I did the same on the run up to 1150 and gold was pretty much at par
[2017-02-27 18:03:02] cryptokeeper : swapped over to that
[2017-02-27 18:03:11] cryptokeeper : gold pumped a bit... so smart move on my part
[2017-02-27 18:03:38] cryptokeeper : top OKC holders have decreased positions too... just be careful guys
[2017-02-27 18:04:39] sleger : Support ?
[2017-02-27 18:04:51] cryptokeeper : support is still 1130ish
[2017-02-27 18:04:58] sleger : Bitmex support ?
[2017-02-27 18:04:58] cryptokeeper : that held.... could re-test thoiugh... u never know
[2017-02-27 18:05:20] sleger : I want tech support not chart support lol
[2017-02-27 18:05:24] cryptokeeper : lol
[2017-02-27 18:05:33] rullwull : i suppose top okc holders are chinese who buy cny spot and sell marc to hedge
[2017-02-27 18:08:03] j8 : are chinese allowed to trade on okc.com? there was some question around that, i don't remember the answer
[2017-02-27 18:08:52] rullwull : i can trade when I'm on chinese vpn, however cant in us vpn
[2017-02-27 18:09:09] j8 : i see
[2017-02-27 18:09:24] rullwull : so currently chinese can make 3,7% in one month
[2017-02-27 18:10:20] BitMEX_Greg : sleger: hey whatsup
[2017-02-27 18:10:30] mtourig3 : http://stockcharts.com/school/doku.php?id=chart_school:chart_analysis:chart_patterns:flag_pennant_continuation
[2017-02-27 18:10:38] sleger : BitMEX_Greg: hey sir, i cant trade ETH, the buy/sell buttons are greyed out
[2017-02-27 18:13:05] -_- : click the order book sleger
[2017-02-27 18:13:07] Farzad : /wall
[2017-02-27 18:13:10] trollbot : ``` Combined order book of 4 major exchanges: Asks: 5457 Ƀ (18.42%) Bids: 3546 Ƀ (6.49%) ±$30 deviation from the current price. Last query: 3176 Seconds ago.```
[2017-02-27 18:13:23] -_- : i think they do that so we dont accidentally click buy or sell
[2017-02-27 18:13:27] j8 : rullwull: the btccny market has really diverged, and there's no guarantee it will be better in a month
[2017-02-27 18:13:43] Farzad : /price
[2017-02-27 18:13:46] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1192.39 (-0.37%) Bitfinex : 1195.40 (-0.22%) The Woodchipper : 1188.74 (-0.22%) itBit : 1194.47 (-0.13%) Kraken : 1191.56 (-0.45%) GDAX : 1195.08 (-0.25%) Last query : 1331 Seconds ago.```
[2017-02-27 18:13:56] sleger : -_-: that worked, thanks, weird i never had that before
[2017-02-27 18:14:00] sleger : BitMEX_Greg:
[2017-02-27 18:14:00] lockhedge : j8: their website says "OKCoin International's headquarters are situated in Hong Kong, services only Non-Chinese customers. Chinese customers please visit OKCoin China."
[2017-02-27 18:14:29] BTCDJS : sleger: sometimes my buttons are greyed out if I typed in a value but if I click the `up` `down` arrow it fixes it
[2017-02-27 18:14:30] -_- : sleger: just started happening for me too
[2017-02-27 18:14:36] j8 : ok, seems to be not really enforced @lockhedge
[2017-02-27 18:14:52] mahouni : I dont think being in HK will save anyone anymore, thats CHina nowadays
[2017-02-27 18:15:20] j8 : lockhedge: hows it goin, haven't seen you around in a while
[2017-02-27 18:15:35] MikeHunt : chinese have moved to japanese/other exchanges
[2017-02-27 18:15:39] Ahhere : mahouni: should we sell and withdraw ?
[2017-02-27 18:15:57] MikeHunt : chinese can buy btc free of gov control via localbtc
[2017-02-27 18:16:21] wurstgelee : BitMEX_Greg: did u pass my message to sam?
[2017-02-27 18:16:29] MikeHunt : question is whether chinese exchanges can survive with huge loss of domestic consumption
[2017-02-27 18:16:38] mahouni : Ahhere: you mean BitMEX?
[2017-02-27 18:16:53] BitMEX_Greg : wurstgelee: yes, we havnt been able to reproduce yet
[2017-02-27 18:17:16] BitMEX_Greg : sleger: ok let us know again next tome
[2017-02-27 18:17:43] wurstgelee : BitMEX_Greg: the "Filled" n Active orders Tab gets updated on partial fills for you?
[2017-02-27 18:17:44] sleger : BitMEX_Greg: it does it again if i switch back to eth
[2017-02-27 18:17:50] sleger : i have to click the orderbook every time now
[2017-02-27 18:17:57] rullwull : lockhedge: just logged in from Luohu, China vpn, okc works well for me, can transfer funds between spot and futures, can place orders, everything well
[2017-02-27 18:18:18] wurstgelee : sleger: chrome?
[2017-02-27 18:18:20] lockhedge : j8: thanks, was traveling a bit but my bot was always here
[2017-02-27 18:18:26] sleger : wurstgelee: yes
[2017-02-27 18:18:38] wurstgelee : sleger: chrome is behaving weird for me with bitmex lately
[2017-02-27 18:18:39] mahouni : Luohu is the border
[2017-02-27 18:18:44] mahouni : try something more inland
[2017-02-27 18:18:53] wurstgelee : odd phenomenons, sometimes reproducable, sometimes not
[2017-02-27 18:19:39] wurstgelee : sleger: if u have an open order and you get partial fills, does the field "Filled" get updated for u? on those fills?
[2017-02-27 18:19:40] lockhedge : rullwull: yeah, they even suggest to use a chinese phone number if you try to sign up.
[2017-02-27 18:19:46] wurstgelee : thats something i can reproduce...
[2017-02-27 18:19:47] sleger : it does it ONLY for eth wwith me
[2017-02-27 18:19:57] j8 : chrome likes to break things with every update it seems
[2017-02-27 18:20:07] sleger : chrome broke eth ?
[2017-02-27 18:20:08] Sultan Pepper : Ive got it on mobile as well
[2017-02-27 18:20:20] sleger : works fine on polo
[2017-02-27 18:20:24] wurstgelee : j8: that doesnt make sense if its only for one contract type
[2017-02-27 18:20:31] rullwull : but if i use us vpn nothing works @lockhedge
[2017-02-27 18:20:38] j8 : sorry i'm out of the loop
[2017-02-27 18:21:13] wurstgelee : btw, we may dip again now so we can all btfd again to piss rapid off
[2017-02-27 18:21:18] wurstgelee : ;)
[2017-02-27 18:21:42] j8 : well, it probably has to do with switching contracts, not ETH
[2017-02-27 18:22:13] wurstgelee : then it would occur on switching to others too
[2017-02-27 18:22:28] thxforyourbtc! : adding on this dip
[2017-02-27 18:22:44] wurstgelee : this?
[2017-02-27 18:22:44] thxforyourbtc! : 1228
[2017-02-27 18:22:51] wurstgelee : oh, h17
[2017-02-27 18:22:55] thxforyourbtc! : yes
[2017-02-27 18:23:07] sleger : j8: no i can switch others it works, not eth
[2017-02-27 18:23:11] wurstgelee : i dont see any dip there yet tbh
[2017-02-27 18:23:27] thxforyourbtc! : $5 dip
[2017-02-27 18:23:32] thxforyourbtc! : is a fair bit
[2017-02-27 18:23:34] Dockspector : What other exchange is the price based on, Okcasino and?
[2017-02-27 18:23:43] thxforyourbtc! : bitstamp
[2017-02-27 18:23:46] Dockspector : Thanks
[2017-02-27 18:23:47] j8 : sleger: i just saw this issue on zcash and etc, but not eth
[2017-02-27 18:23:50] shiroe : -100 + 400. easy
[2017-02-27 18:24:14] wurstgelee : as i said...chrome and bitmex is weird atm
[2017-02-27 18:24:16] j8 : saw it on ripple and fct too
[2017-02-27 18:24:27] j8 : and xmr
[2017-02-27 18:24:38] sleger : have it on swap now
[2017-02-27 18:24:43] sleger : contagion is happening
[2017-02-27 18:25:15] wurstgelee : i have buy and sell buttons randomly greyed out for months tbh
[2017-02-27 18:25:19] wurstgelee : f5 fixes it
[2017-02-27 18:25:21] wurstgelee : usually
[2017-02-27 18:25:32] wurstgelee : sleger: does refresh fix it for u?
[2017-02-27 18:25:42] carl : why the chipper for index price?
[2017-02-27 18:25:46] carl : Always wondered that...
[2017-02-27 18:25:54] -_- : happens for me on firefox
[2017-02-27 18:25:58] carl : Because they once were market leaders?
[2017-02-27 18:26:16] mtourig3 : new filing on ETF!!! https://www.sec.gov/cgi-bin/browse-edgar?action=getcompany&CIK=0001579346&owner=exclude&count=40&hidefilings=0
[2017-02-27 18:26:23] mtourig3 : filing*
[2017-02-27 18:26:30] wurstgelee : carl: ask the bitmex admins. still waiting for that announcement after chinese new year ;)
[2017-02-27 18:26:41] sleger : wurstgelee: refresh doesnt fix it
[2017-02-27 18:27:06] -_- : FCT, XRP, ETH, XBCH17 all greyed out for me
[2017-02-27 18:27:27] carl : wurstgelee: yeah, obsolete now
[2017-02-27 18:27:35] carl : should be finex instead
[2017-02-27 18:27:51] Tetsuo : sleger: same problem here, after a click on the orderbook it works though
[2017-02-27 18:28:01] Tetsuo : Firefox
[2017-02-27 18:28:06] sleger : didnt fix it for me
[2017-02-27 18:28:07] wurstgelee : carl: there seems to be an issue with the market maker not wanting to hedge there...
[2017-02-27 18:28:34] sleger : Tetsuo: i mean it fixes it but if i switch and come back its broken again
[2017-02-27 18:28:42] Tetsuo : yeah here too
[2017-02-27 18:28:43] wurstgelee : sleger: i jave it on eth too
[2017-02-27 18:28:45] wurstgelee : lol
[2017-02-27 18:28:48] wurstgelee : cant fix it
[2017-02-27 18:29:01] wurstgelee : buttons greyed out, nothing i can do
[2017-02-27 18:29:16] sleger : eth IS special after all
[2017-02-27 18:29:17] carl : wurstgelee: what you mean by that?
[2017-02-27 18:29:21] wurstgelee : switching to etc and back resolves it
[2017-02-27 18:29:48] wurstgelee : carl: its a political thing ;)
[2017-02-27 18:30:42] wurstgelee : nvm, now i cant use etc...
[2017-02-27 18:30:54] wurstgelee : hhaaaaa
[2017-02-27 18:30:59] wurstgelee : i know how to reproduce it
[2017-02-27 18:31:35] wurstgelee : sleger: click different contract tabs.. stop at some point, then click the previous of the one you clicked last
[2017-02-27 18:31:39] wurstgelee : what happens? ;)
[2017-02-27 18:31:57] sleger : i can trade it
[2017-02-27 18:32:00] sleger : its not greyed out
[2017-02-27 18:32:06] wurstgelee : the previous isnt greyed out?
[2017-02-27 18:32:10] sleger : no
[2017-02-27 18:32:15] wurstgelee : that repsroduces it perfectly for me
[2017-02-27 18:32:29] sleger : but ripple is greyed out now
[2017-02-27 18:32:31] wurstgelee : switch to augur, then xmr, back to augur -> augur greyed out
[2017-02-27 18:32:43] sleger : not for me no
[2017-02-27 18:32:44] wurstgelee : ripple->some other->ripple -> grey
[2017-02-27 18:32:53] sleger : not for me
[2017-02-27 18:33:02] sleger : ripple is greyed no matter what so yes but no
[2017-02-27 18:33:02] wurstgelee : nope, i thought so
[2017-02-27 18:33:03] wurstgelee : its random
[2017-02-27 18:33:08] wurstgelee : some a greyed out, some not
[2017-02-27 18:33:12] mahouni : Anybody looking in to getting to ZEC train?
[2017-02-27 18:33:13] sleger : its nto random
[2017-02-27 18:33:18] wurstgelee : and it changes which ones are grey
[2017-02-27 18:33:28] wurstgelee : sleger: do u have one which is never grey for u?
[2017-02-27 18:33:41] sleger : swap eth and ripple are greyed, none other
[2017-02-27 18:33:56] rullwull : mahouni: already in;)
[2017-02-27 18:33:57] wurstgelee : i have XBc grey atm
[2017-02-27 18:34:17] wurstgelee : now augur...now xrp
[2017-02-27 18:34:33] sleger : clicking the order book doesnt always solve it, its a real bug
[2017-02-27 18:34:40] wurstgelee : same
[2017-02-27 18:34:45] wurstgelee : doesnt solve always
[2017-02-27 18:34:59] sleger : Greg, you reporting it ?
[2017-02-27 18:35:04] mahouni : rullwull: nice, I dont know how i missed that i was interested below 0.25
[2017-02-27 18:35:13] mahouni : Might still throw chumpchange to it
[2017-02-27 18:35:13] wurstgelee : sleger: it has to be a bug, otherwise it would occur on multiple clients
[2017-02-27 18:35:19] wurstgelee : *wouldnt
[2017-02-27 18:37:54] brasska : mahouni: bought march here and plenty on spot
[2017-02-27 18:38:04] -_- : ZEC is hard to get into
[2017-02-27 18:38:55] BitMEX_Sam : sleger: I can reproduce it and have a fix in the pipe
[2017-02-27 18:39:01] wurstgelee : YAY
[2017-02-27 18:39:05] sleger : BitMEX_Sam: Awesome as always thanks
[2017-02-27 18:39:21] mahouni : Is there volumine in ZEC in Poloniex?
[2017-02-27 18:40:19] mahouni : I think this will evolve in to nice fucking short eventually
[2017-02-27 18:40:26] wurstgelee : BitMEX_Sam: u cant reproduce the "'Filled' doesnt get updated (starting with the second partial fill!) in active order tabs on partial fills" problem tho?
[2017-02-27 18:40:55] wurstgelee : (chrome, no clue if relevant)
[2017-02-27 18:41:04] BitMEX_Sam : No, not seeing that
[2017-02-27 18:42:16] wurstgelee : hm. not that importan, just annoying me a bit. i'll test it with different browser on different machines and maybe come back to you
[2017-02-27 18:42:20] wurstgelee : *t
[2017-02-27 18:43:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `FCT7D`: buy 15 @ 0.002494
[2017-02-27 18:43:44] BitMEX_Greg : wurstgelee: What browser are you using now
[2017-02-27 18:43:48] wurstgelee : chrome
[2017-02-27 18:44:11] wurstgelee : BitMEX_Greg: 56.0.2924.87
[2017-02-27 18:44:16] BitMEX_Sam : wurstgelee: If you can replicate on testnet please let me know the steps
[2017-02-27 18:44:20] BitMEX_Sam : I have tried a few with no luck
[2017-02-27 18:44:22] wurstgelee : might very well be version 56, it sucks a lot
[2017-02-27 18:44:28] wurstgelee : i should revert to 54
[2017-02-27 18:44:30] wurstgelee : =)
[2017-02-27 18:45:01] wurstgelee : BitMEX_Sam: no steps. open order. see first partial fill in "Filled", wait for next partial fill, field doesnt get updated
[2017-02-27 18:45:36] wurstgelee : u did try chrome 56 i assume?
[2017-02-27 18:46:16] Tetsuo : wurstgelee: also same problem here, Firefox
[2017-02-27 18:46:23] wurstgelee : Tetsuo: YAY
[2017-02-27 18:46:26] wurstgelee : I AM NOT ALONE
[2017-02-27 18:46:43] Tetsuo : it has been like that for a few days
[2017-02-27 18:46:43] BitMEX_Sam : Chrome 57 actually, let me try 56
[2017-02-27 18:46:52] wurstgelee : Tetsuo: YES
[2017-02-27 18:47:06] wurstgelee : BitMEX_Sam: well, tetsuo has the same in FF.....
[2017-02-27 18:47:29] BitMEX_Sam : Yes - will investigate further
[2017-02-27 18:47:37] Tetsuo : YES
[2017-02-27 18:47:42] wurstgelee : BitMEX_Sam: did u reproduce it?
[2017-02-27 18:47:44] wurstgelee : in 56?
[2017-02-27 18:47:57] BitMEX_Sam : Gotta give me more than 30 seconds there chief
[2017-02-27 18:48:10] wurstgelee : BitMEX_Sam: u said "Yes"
[2017-02-27 18:48:12] wurstgelee : thats why ;(
[2017-02-27 18:48:13] Tetsuo : time is DOGE
[2017-02-27 18:48:26] wurstgelee : wrong smiley
[2017-02-27 18:49:00] wurstgelee : BitMEX_Sam: also, sometimes the order still has "cancel" button - altho long filled
[2017-02-27 18:49:11] wurstgelee : something doesnt get updated there
[2017-02-27 18:49:23] Tetsuo : YES
[2017-02-27 18:49:33] wurstgelee : Tetsuo: annoying af, right?
[2017-02-27 18:50:00] BitMEX_Sam : Hmm. Still can't reproduce. I'll keep an eye on it
[2017-02-27 18:50:44] wurstgelee : will try different browsers/machines at work tomorrow
[2017-02-27 18:50:48] wurstgelee : and report back
[2017-02-27 18:51:04] wurstgelee : *will make my intern try it
[2017-02-27 18:51:08] wurstgelee : :p
[2017-02-27 18:55:40] rapidtrades : we've been at 4-5 premium for like 3 hrs and funding only went up from 0.01 to 0.049
[2017-02-27 18:56:03] rapidtrades : do u think ppl are this stupid?
[2017-02-27 18:57:30] sleger : are you saying its broken ?
[2017-02-27 18:57:59] rapidtrades : ofc its broken, its been under cutting shorts for few days now
[2017-02-27 18:58:24] sleger : did you check the maths ?
[2017-02-27 18:58:38] j8 : you have the formula, if you don't like it that's one thing but it's not wrong
[2017-02-27 19:00:08] rapidtrades : yeah it should be 0.15% min @sleger
[2017-02-27 19:00:24] j8 : it does rip you off by ~5 bps most of the time because of the clamp
[2017-02-27 19:00:41] sleger : https://www.bitmex.com/app/index/.XBTUSDPI
[2017-02-27 19:00:43] sleger : seems fine
[2017-02-27 19:00:50] sleger : its just an 8 hr average
[2017-02-27 19:00:55] sleger : there was some discount earlier too
[2017-02-27 19:00:59] rapidtrades : their self reported data seems fine? ok
[2017-02-27 19:01:10] sleger : bitmex doesnt make money on it
[2017-02-27 19:01:30] rapidtrades : just like they didn't take money on ZEC
[2017-02-27 19:01:38] wurstgelee : rapidtrades: is your short looking this bad now?
[2017-02-27 19:01:38] j8 : well the impact bid price is generally lower than best bid / last
[2017-02-27 19:01:43] wurstgelee : reslly?
[2017-02-27 19:01:45] sleger : its self reported but its minute by minute it s easy to check it is 0.246% last minute which is correct
[2017-02-27 19:01:46] wurstgelee : really also
[2017-02-27 19:02:05] rapidtrades : ok i'll keep an eye on it @sleger
[2017-02-27 19:02:32] wurstgelee : maybe u should first keep an eye on it and then come up with implied accusations
[2017-02-27 19:02:33] sleger : wouldnt make sense for bitmex to cheat on that
[2017-02-27 19:02:39] wurstgelee : not the other way round
[2017-02-27 19:02:48] wurstgelee : also what sleger just said
[2017-02-27 19:02:51] wurstgelee : nor benefit for bitmex
[2017-02-27 19:02:55] wurstgelee : *-r
[2017-02-27 19:03:17] rapidtrades : sleger: it seems to show exactly what im talking about tho
[2017-02-27 19:03:18] sleger : funding wont finance a moon ticket anyways
[2017-02-27 19:03:37] rapidtrades : min is 0.2-0.4% past 2 hrs and funding only went up from 0.01 to 0.05
[2017-02-27 19:03:44] wurstgelee : sleger: but thats what he wants :p
[2017-02-27 19:03:51] rapidtrades : things don't add up
[2017-02-27 19:04:13] sleger : rapidtrades: its 8 hours that matters
[2017-02-27 19:04:33] sleger : you can retrieve it on the same page click the api link just above the table
[2017-02-27 19:04:36] sleger : change 200 to 500
[2017-02-27 19:04:36] wurstgelee : 0.2 for 2h would raise the funding to 0.05 if the other 6 are 0
[2017-02-27 19:04:39] wurstgelee : it adds up....
[2017-02-27 19:05:11] sleger : the ripoff is when it reaches the CAP thats it
[2017-02-27 19:05:34] wurstgelee : either ripoff or get rid of 100x
[2017-02-27 19:05:36] wurstgelee : pick 1
[2017-02-27 19:05:40] wurstgelee : ;)
[2017-02-27 19:05:58] sleger : the second one
[2017-02-27 19:06:01] wurstgelee : ofc
[2017-02-27 19:06:02] wurstgelee : :D
[2017-02-27 19:06:30] wurstgelee : i would be fine with higher cap and lower lev
[2017-02-27 19:06:43] wurstgelee : but its what attracts the sheep the most, high lev
[2017-02-27 19:06:44] rapidtrades : ok i'll keep watching
[2017-02-27 19:06:57] wurstgelee : i wouldnt want to get rid of those either if i were bitmex
[2017-02-27 19:07:28] rapidtrades : i have a feeling its off by watching it past few months but maybe im wrong
[2017-02-27 19:07:49] wurstgelee : you have to look attractive for those post-ath newbs
[2017-02-27 19:08:09] cryptoyolo : wheres all the action?
[2017-02-27 19:08:10] wurstgelee : rapidtrades: you are :)
[2017-02-27 19:08:47] wurstgelee : also there would really be no benefit.....
[2017-02-27 19:10:21] j8 : rapidtrades: go to https://www.bitmex.com/chartEmbed?symbol=.XBTUSDPI and put a moving average on the 1-minute with period 480 for 8 hours, or like 430 for the session up until now
[2017-02-27 19:11:43] j8 : it's 5 bps higher than the predicted funding. that's because of the clamp
[2017-02-27 19:14:07] rapidtrades : im seeing 0.001 with 430 ma
[2017-02-27 19:14:26] j8 : yes
[2017-02-27 19:15:03] rapidtrades : i don't understand why its not moving up tho
[2017-02-27 19:15:24] j8 : it is but averaging takes time
[2017-02-27 19:15:26] rapidtrades : look at past 3 hrs, they're all around 0.30%
[2017-02-27 19:15:47] rapidtrades : ok u need to *100 for some reason
[2017-02-27 19:16:07] rapidtrades : so ma shows 0.1% while prediction funding says 0.05%....why is this?
[2017-02-27 19:16:24] sleger : clamp
[2017-02-27 19:16:32] sleger : dont remember why it was set to 0.05% though
[2017-02-27 19:16:33] aethlios : j8: ema is 0.15% and funding 0.055%
[2017-02-27 19:16:35] rapidtrades : whats a clam
[2017-02-27 19:16:44] sleger : some kind of seafood
[2017-02-27 19:16:45] rapidtrades : aethlios: u se sma
[2017-02-27 19:16:55] rapidtrades : ema places greater value on recent data
[2017-02-27 19:17:12] j8 : `Funding Rate (F) = Premium Index (P) + clamp(Interest Rate (I) - Premium Index (P), 0.05%, -0.05%)`
[2017-02-27 19:17:36] sleger : rapidtrades: whats a clam sleger: some kind of seafood <= better than trollbot joke
[2017-02-27 19:17:59] rapidtrades : j8: english?
[2017-02-27 19:18:02] sleger : j8: you remember why 0.05% ?
[2017-02-27 19:18:18] aethlios : sma 0.10%
[2017-02-27 19:18:29] rapidtrades : eactly 0.1% not 0.05
[2017-02-27 19:18:52] j8 : sleger: not sure, seems arbitrary
[2017-02-27 19:19:10] sleger : I think it was to avoid it to trigger for small premiums
[2017-02-27 19:19:14] sleger : or discounts
[2017-02-27 19:19:21] sleger : but im not sure it makes any real sense
[2017-02-27 19:20:06] j8 : the usual spread between impact bid and ask is probably at least that big
[2017-02-27 19:20:42] j8 : i get that it's better to use the interest rate when there's basically no premium
[2017-02-27 19:20:43] sleger : yes but its no reason to add/remove 0.05% on top of that
[2017-02-27 19:20:48] rapidtrades : so until we breakout above 0.05% funding is tone-downed somehow?
[2017-02-27 19:20:50] j8 : but yes that part is dumb
[2017-02-27 19:21:10] aethlios : rapidtrades: you have been clamped!!
[2017-02-27 19:21:21] sleger : says the guy with bids at 700
[2017-02-27 19:21:28] sleger : :D
[2017-02-27 19:22:16] rapidtrades : told u guys it feels off
[2017-02-27 19:22:27] j8 : rapidtrades: it's decreased by 0.05% when the premium minus interest is greater than 0.05%
[2017-02-27 19:22:38] Tetsuo : Sherlock rapid
[2017-02-27 19:23:11] j8 : and i told you why its "off" but also not any different from whats in the docs
[2017-02-27 19:23:32] sleger : let's make the docs great again
[2017-02-27 19:23:32] Dynamix : Fuck you BTC , you lost me all my hope to survive, Someone who can send me 0.01 btc to short 100x this shit ? :D
[2017-02-27 19:24:12] sleger : Dynamix: I wish but after spending 10k a night in miami, i'd rather save up
[2017-02-27 19:24:28] rapidtrades : j8: great so shorts are getting constant -0.05% per 8 hrs
[2017-02-27 19:24:29] Dynamix : sleger: Lololol, 10k a night you know hahha
[2017-02-27 19:24:32] rapidtrades : that's a stupid rule
[2017-02-27 19:24:52] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: if etf approves at this height how much do u expect to loose?
[2017-02-27 19:24:57] Farzad : /price
[2017-02-27 19:25:01] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1192.01 (-0.03%) Bitfinex : 1194.90 (-0.04%) The Woodchipper : 1186.93 (-0.15%) itBit : 1193.22 (-0.10%) Kraken : 1193.10 (0.13%) GDAX : 1195.47 (0.03%) Last query : 4275 Seconds ago.```
[2017-02-27 19:25:17] rapidtrades : MikeHunt: prolly 10%
[2017-02-27 19:25:25] Farzad : /wall
[2017-02-27 19:25:29] trollbot : ``` Combined order book of 4 major exchanges: Asks: 4905 Ƀ (6.45%) Bids: 3392 Ƀ (1.86%) ±$30 deviation from the current price. Last query: 4339 Seconds ago.```
[2017-02-27 19:26:21] MikeHunt : i think this may get dragged up to 1400+ before etf so the drop doesnt break the bull run
[2017-02-27 19:26:40] rapidtrades : no its already losing steam
[2017-02-27 19:26:53] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: there is a huge buy wall on okc
[2017-02-27 19:27:01] MikeHunt : i think this may be another leg on the way up
[2017-02-27 19:27:10] BTCDJS : https://twitter.com/ansellindner/status/836257600144470016
[2017-02-27 19:27:13] rapidtrades : if that wall wanted to execute, he would've done it already
[2017-02-27 19:27:15] Apocalyptic : walls don't matter
[2017-02-27 19:27:15] rustiv : rapidtrades: that's what ashdrake said
[2017-02-27 19:27:45] Ahhere : Open interest 9k, users 1114, price 1230 on march. Is it time to take profit?
[2017-02-27 19:28:01] MikeHunt : BTCDJS: could also be investors betting on etf?
[2017-02-27 19:28:15] BTCDJS : Market buying?
[2017-02-27 19:28:19] BTCDJS : WRONG
[2017-02-27 19:28:30] MikeHunt : BTCDJS: manipulation tehn?
[2017-02-27 19:28:33] rapidtrades : more like token holders gambling on etf
[2017-02-27 19:28:44] BTCDJS : yup
[2017-02-27 19:28:46] rapidtrades : or exit scam by finex
[2017-02-27 19:28:59] j8 : rapidtrades: i agree its a stupid rule
[2017-02-27 19:29:30] MikeHunt : i hope etf is approved so it makes gold cheaper
[2017-02-27 19:29:41] MikeHunt : then wen it all crashes down with economy gold goes up
[2017-02-27 19:29:43] MikeHunt : muh riches
[2017-02-27 19:29:49] Ahhere : BTCDJS: is it not just a short squeeze?
[2017-02-27 19:30:08] rapidtrades : im not sure if ETF approval is good for traders
[2017-02-27 19:30:12] rapidtrades : for hodlers sure
[2017-02-27 19:30:28] itsyourboy : MikeHunt: what platform do you buy your gold on out of interest, Mike?
[2017-02-27 19:30:33] rapidtrades : but it could bring institutional money and i like it the way it is
[2017-02-27 19:30:33] MikeHunt : atm we are in a big ascending triangle
[2017-02-27 19:30:40] BTCDJS : dono. Let's speculate more or have a pro tell us what they think *cough sleger*
[2017-02-27 19:30:45] rapidtrades : betting against stupid retail
[2017-02-27 19:30:45] MikeHunt : itsyourboy: i buy physical
[2017-02-27 19:30:50] MikeHunt : not IOUs
[2017-02-27 19:31:24] wurstgelee : rapidtrades: every ape in btc should be able to capitalize an ETF approval
[2017-02-27 19:31:28] wurstgelee : cept all in shorts ofc
[2017-02-27 19:31:39] rapidtrades : only initially
[2017-02-27 19:31:44] wurstgelee : yes ofc
[2017-02-27 19:32:03] wurstgelee : needs reevalutation after the expected initial madness
[2017-02-27 19:32:04] rapidtrades : right now its like 90% retail here prolly
[2017-02-27 19:32:05] BTCDJS : /price
[2017-02-27 19:32:07] wurstgelee : but it should be grreat fun
[2017-02-27 19:32:07] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1190.51 (-0.13%) Bitfinex : 1194.90 (0.00%) The Woodchipper : 1186.74 (-0.02%) itBit : 1193.22 (0.00%) Kraken : 1193.10 (0.00%) GDAX : 1195.89 (0.04%) Last query : 427 Seconds ago.```
[2017-02-27 19:32:30] wurstgelee : rapidtrades: you make retails sound like its something bad :p
[2017-02-27 19:32:31] BTCDJS : /sentiment
[2017-02-27 19:32:34] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 57.76 / 42.24 Daily : 52.76 / 47.24 Weekly : 48.28 / 51.72 Monthly : 48.21 / 51.79```
[2017-02-27 19:32:35] wurstgelee : *retail
[2017-02-27 19:32:50] rapidtrades : like i said, i want it to stay that way
[2017-02-27 19:32:58] rapidtrades : its dumb money