This is a mirror of the original BitMEX trollbox archive that used to be online here.
BitMEX disabled their archive after the DDOS attack so I have decided to make my mirror publicly available.

Well now, a few days after I made this mirror available to the public, the original archive from BitMEX is online again.
But since it is still limited (neutered to the last few hundred messages) I will keep my FULL mirror alive.

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[2017-02-27 08:50:51] .. : the "$100 tx fees are fine" are extremists imo
[2017-02-27 08:51:14] zanza : there is definitely a power struggle now with miners/developers
[2017-02-27 08:51:33] zanza : it could get ugly even this year, and I think price would tank if there is serious instability
[2017-02-27 08:51:52] .. : I do agree, and I personally think BU is making things much worse too
[2017-02-27 08:52:01] zanza : We will see, once either SegWit or BU gets over 50% then things will change
[2017-02-27 08:52:15] zanza : right now, neither of them even have barely 25%
[2017-02-27 08:52:30] zanza : so there is still a lot of time before things will happen
[2017-02-27 08:53:40] .. : yes, its pretty much some chinese miners upset there is no HF in Core yet TBH, I am just not confident if deciding on HF specifics before segwit is activated is smart
[2017-02-27 08:54:24] .. : unlimited is stupid IMO, as there should be always a limit to sustain decentralization and costs of nodes "reasonable" and letting some mining pool operators decide on it seems to risky
[2017-02-27 08:55:59] .. : so safe dynamic increase seems best to me, maybe even Jeff's BIP where miners can still influence it a little bit
[2017-02-27 08:56:04] zanza : so what is the work around ?
[2017-02-27 08:56:12] Farzad : /wall
[2017-02-27 08:56:15] trollbot : ``` Combined order book of 4 major exchanges: Asks: 4549 Ƀ (-3.72%) Bids: 2987 Ƀ (-12.43%) * ±$30 deviation from the current price.```
[2017-02-27 08:57:25] elmorte : Farzad: what's the % in the brackets?
[2017-02-27 08:57:48] Farzad : elmorte: percetange of change compare to last query
[2017-02-27 08:58:06] elmorte : ahh, k
[2017-02-27 08:58:25] elmorte : then adding the time interval since the last query would be helpful
[2017-02-27 08:58:41] elmorte : /wall
[2017-02-27 08:58:44] trollbot : ``` Combined order book of 4 major exchanges: Asks: 4407 Ƀ (-3.12%) Bids: 3121 Ƀ (4.49%) * ±$30 deviation from the current price.```
[2017-02-27 08:59:24] Farzad : elmorte: great idea !
[2017-02-27 08:59:28] Farzad : will do it
[2017-02-27 08:59:55] elmorte : :)
[2017-02-27 09:05:11] Farzad : /wall
[2017-02-27 09:05:14] trollbot : ``` Combined order book of 4 major exchanges: Asks: 4472 Ƀ (1.47%) Bids: 3096 Ƀ (-0.80%) * ±$30 deviation from the current price.```
[2017-02-27 09:05:33] Farzad : /price
[2017-02-27 09:05:36] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1179.71 (-0.29%) Bitfinex : 1176.70 (-0.88%) The Woodchipper : 1176.75 (-0.74%) itBit : 1179.34 (-0.59%) Kraken : 1175.61 (-0.46%) GDAX : 1183.50 (-0.39%) ```
[2017-02-27 09:05:57] Farzad : a lot of resistance @1200
[2017-02-27 09:08:40] l3f : Farzad: you'd think the shorts sold the bottom already
[2017-02-27 09:08:46] l3f : but there's a bit more to clear out
[2017-02-27 09:09:28] Farzad : l3f: I agree
[2017-02-27 09:19:19] odbm : ETF dropped pretty big any news?
[2017-02-27 09:22:08] Farzad : /price
[2017-02-27 09:22:11] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1177.10 (17.71%) Bitfinex : 1178.50 (17.85%) The Woodchipper : 1177.09 (17.71%) itBit : 1179.46 (17.95%) Kraken : 1177.96 (17.80%) GDAX : 1181.33 (18.13%) * Last query : 0 Seconds ago.
[2017-02-27 09:23:08] Farzad : odbm: thats not pretty big
[2017-02-27 09:23:16] Farzad : look at chart history
[2017-02-27 09:23:45] Farzad : /price
[2017-02-27 09:23:45] odbm : lol didnt see that spread
[2017-02-27 09:23:47] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1177.55 (17.75%) Bitfinex : 1178.70 (17.87%) The Woodchipper : 1177.09 (17.71%) itBit : 1181.23 (18.12%) Kraken : 1177.96 (17.80%) GDAX : 1182.03 (18.20%) * Last query : 0 Seconds ago.```
[2017-02-27 09:25:08] InvalidUser : Were winning
[2017-02-27 09:25:24] InvalidUser : Other then JPY
[2017-02-27 09:25:31] odbm : when bitmex calculates my ROE are they going by mark price or last sell price?
[2017-02-27 09:28:10] -_- : Mark
[2017-02-27 09:28:37] Farzad : /wall
[2017-02-27 09:28:44] trollbot : ``` Combined order book of 4 major exchanges: Asks: 4736 Ƀ (0.00%) Bids: 3922 Ƀ (0.00%) ±$30 deviation from the current price. Last query: 0 Seconds ago.```
[2017-02-27 09:38:02] Farzad : /wall
[2017-02-27 09:38:06] trollbot : ``` Combined order book of 4 major exchanges: Asks: 4716 Ƀ (-0.42%) Bids: 3732 Ƀ (-4.84%) ±$30 deviation from the current price. Last query: 562 Seconds ago.```
[2017-02-27 09:40:12] elmorte : :thumbsup:
[2017-02-27 09:40:18] elmorte : /wall
[2017-02-27 09:40:19] InvalidUser : sell
[2017-02-27 09:40:21] trollbot : ``` Combined order book of 4 major exchanges: Asks: 4816 Ƀ (2.12%) Bids: 3692 Ƀ (-1.07%) ±$30 deviation from the current price. Last query: 698 Seconds ago.```
[2017-02-27 09:40:28] elmorte : whoops...
[2017-02-27 09:41:06] KyllingLolsson : Hey... I dont understand that wall thing.How do i read the data?
[2017-02-27 09:41:19] InvalidUser : were going long
[2017-02-27 09:41:34] elmorte : amount of BTC required to raise/lower the price by $40
[2017-02-27 09:41:38] elmorte : $30
[2017-02-27 09:42:03] KyllingLolsson : @InvalidUser Long? All i see is down.
[2017-02-27 09:42:08] KyllingLolsson : elmorte: ok get it
[2017-02-27 09:42:45] Ahhere : ok bad hombres who is short
[2017-02-27 09:43:20] Ahhere : admit it
[2017-02-27 09:44:23] KyllingLolsson : i got no position atm, but i don't see it going up right now
[2017-02-27 09:47:05] ThruTheFloor : To the moon!!! ┗(°0°)┛
[2017-02-27 09:47:19] KyllingLolsson : ThruTheFloor: how?
[2017-02-27 09:47:26] ThruTheFloor : KyllingLolsson: By going up
[2017-02-27 09:47:34] KyllingLolsson : by gut feeling?
[2017-02-27 09:47:37] KyllingLolsson : or TA?
[2017-02-27 09:47:46] ThruTheFloor : Yes
[2017-02-27 09:47:53] KyllingLolsson : yes to what
[2017-02-27 09:48:10] ThruTheFloor : Yup
[2017-02-27 09:48:14] KyllingLolsson : ...
[2017-02-27 09:48:18] ThruTheFloor : Exactly
[2017-02-27 09:48:42] KyllingLolsson : I genuinely want to know how this is going up
[2017-02-27 09:49:18] InvalidUser : lol
[2017-02-27 09:49:19] ThruTheFloor : Then you're gonna have to ask someone who's entire trading strategy is based on a coin flip every 2 hours
[2017-02-27 09:49:24] ThruTheFloor : sint&
[2017-02-27 09:49:28] ThruTheFloor : isn't*
[2017-02-27 09:50:00] loomdart : lol
[2017-02-27 09:50:17] KyllingLolsson : whatever
[2017-02-27 09:50:36] loomdart : https://www.tradingview.com/x/tnTE6dAX/
[2017-02-27 09:50:39] loomdart : there you go pal :)
[2017-02-27 09:50:57] KyllingLolsson : K so you're a scalper
[2017-02-27 09:51:18] ThruTheFloor : loomdart: This is all I see: ಠ_ಠ
[2017-02-27 09:52:25] Ahhere : ThruTheFloor: i would like to take a moment commend your trolling. it is persistent, focused and unrelenting. well done good sir. Any tips for a noob troll?
[2017-02-27 09:52:58] loomdart : So what we buying post-new-ATH?
[2017-02-27 09:53:43] ThruTheFloor : Ahhere: Sure, buddy. It's simple? You know that filter in your head that stops you from saying something stupid, obvious, or annoying? Yeah just turn that off and you're good to go. Direct thought to keyboard.
[2017-02-27 09:56:25] Ahhere : thanks for sharing this nugget so obvious in hindsight
[2017-02-27 09:57:25] ThruTheFloor : Ahhere: No problem at all. Honestly after putting in an honest 8 hours of trolling on here every day, it's nice to finally receive the recognition I so obviously deserve.
[2017-02-27 09:57:58] ThruTheFloor : loomdart: I was thinking I would use my new vast reserves of wealth to buy more money, then maybe idk pick up a cocaine habit or something
[2017-02-27 09:58:09] Ahhere : sadly there will never be a troll awards. one must accept the thankless nature of this profession
[2017-02-27 09:58:53] elmorte : There is a trollbox user award...habibi won 2BTC for it
[2017-02-27 09:58:55] ThruTheFloor : I also want to try one of those $30k/night escorts. I wanna see if they really are worth the price over the $5 handjob behind the Wendy's I usually spring for
[2017-02-27 09:59:10] elmorte : no one's gonna pay you
[2017-02-27 09:59:14] elmorte : 30k @ThruTheFloor
[2017-02-27 09:59:40] Ahhere : elmorte: wow and then he retired?
[2017-02-27 09:59:50] elmorte : Ahhere: lol, seems like it
[2017-02-27 10:00:00] elmorte : I'm sure he's lurking somewhere
[2017-02-27 10:00:13] ThruTheFloor : Damn, @Ahhere raised my spirits and you @elmorte quickly destroyed them and shat all over the remains. Nice.
[2017-02-27 10:00:55] Ahhere : ThruTheFloor: quick tip - always check cheaper escorts for signs of std
[2017-02-27 10:01:03] Ahhere : its kind of a pro life tip
[2017-02-27 10:01:09] Ahhere : can get a big discount if you find someting
[2017-02-27 10:01:18] elmorte : haha
[2017-02-27 10:02:01] ThruTheFloor : Ahhere: Nah, I've already got every std known to man, and 3 only known to monkeys. There's nothing they can do to me that I can't give to them 10 fold
[2017-02-27 10:02:23] Ahhere : ThruTheFloor: ye but she doesnt know that
[2017-02-27 10:03:42] ThruTheFloor : Ahhere: I feel like the black shriveled mass of flesh in my pants would give it away
[2017-02-27 10:04:01] Ahhere : lol true just say ur mixed race
[2017-02-27 10:04:04] Ahhere : half pigmy
[2017-02-27 10:04:54] Ahhere : *pygmy
[2017-02-27 10:05:41] ThruTheFloor : Do pygmy dicks ooze pus and blood, have grotesque tumors all over, smell like rotten flesh, or form the nesting grounds of various species of maggots and flies?
[2017-02-27 10:06:03] ThruTheFloor : Cuz if they do then you might be on to something!
[2017-02-27 10:06:25] Ahhere : lol not a cock connoisseur unfortunately but I guess not
[2017-02-27 10:06:44] Farzad : /walll
[2017-02-27 10:06:57] Farzad : /wall
[2017-02-27 10:07:00] trollbot : ``` Combined order book of 4 major exchanges: Asks: 4700 Ƀ (-2.41%) Bids: 3665 Ƀ (-0.73%) ±$30 deviation from the current price. Last query: 2296 Seconds ago.```
[2017-02-27 10:07:27] Ahhere : nice update @Farzad
[2017-02-27 10:07:35] Farzad : Ahhere: ty
[2017-02-27 10:08:04] Ahhere : your talents are wasted on us
[2017-02-27 10:08:25] Farzad : Ahhere: I hope it is useful for u :)
[2017-02-27 10:08:41] Ahhere : /joke
[2017-02-27 10:08:52] trollbot : ``` If my wife made a dollar for every sexist joke I make She'd be $.77 richer right now ```
[2017-02-27 10:09:21] Ahhere : do you pro
[2017-02-27 10:09:41] Ahhere : *put your talents to use other than here? @Farzad
[2017-02-27 10:09:59] Farzad : Ahhere: I have several trading bots
[2017-02-27 10:11:12] Ahhere : wwen did u start learning? i think is too late for me but would love that skill
[2017-02-27 10:11:28] Ahhere : *its
[2017-02-27 10:11:42] Farzad : Ahhere: I started a when I was like 10 years old
[2017-02-27 10:11:55] Ahhere : lol and what u now like 12? *crosses fingers*
[2017-02-27 10:11:59] Farzad : 20 years ago ;)
[2017-02-27 10:12:12] Ahhere : ah shite was afraid ud say that
[2017-02-27 10:12:26] Farzad : lol, why ? are u 12 ?
[2017-02-27 10:12:38] Ahhere : no I was hoping it just too 2 years to get to your level
[2017-02-27 10:12:51] Ahhere : i was 12 once
[2017-02-27 10:13:02] elmorte : Farzad: what was the first lang you used?
[2017-02-27 10:13:16] Farzad : Actually u can get to my level in less than 2 years !
[2017-02-27 10:13:24] Farzad : elmorte: BASIC
[2017-02-27 10:13:34] Ahhere : Farzad: if I'm a genius?
[2017-02-27 10:13:43] Ahhere : which I am btw
[2017-02-27 10:13:50] elmorte : Visual Basic here...almost the same ;)
[2017-02-27 10:13:52] Ahhere : :|
[2017-02-27 10:14:14] Farzad : Ahhere: no, I am serious, It is not as hard as u think. but you should love coding.
[2017-02-27 10:14:47] elmorte : When I first realized that you could actually tell the computer what to do...mind blown!
[2017-02-27 10:14:53] Farzad : elmorte: Yes, I started on a Commodore 64. If you know what it is. Visual Basic came years later.
[2017-02-27 10:15:18] Ahhere : zx spectrum here @Farzad
[2017-02-27 10:15:21] ThruTheFloor : Farzad: Dude, what returns do your bots make for you? I'm thinking of writing my own.
[2017-02-27 10:15:21] elmorte : yeah of course, never owned one but play many
[2017-02-27 10:15:25] InvalidUser : I used to be able to code in basic
[2017-02-27 10:15:27] elmorte : played*
[2017-02-27 10:15:53] elmorte : Actually, I may have used BASIC for my first project
[2017-02-27 10:16:02] elmorte : But it would've been on a PC
[2017-02-27 10:16:18] InvalidUser : I used to draw stupid pictures with it.
[2017-02-27 10:16:22] Farzad : Ahhere: cool, my brother had one ! I remember it was small and thin :D
[2017-02-27 10:16:31] elmorte : yeah, with a tape deck
[2017-02-27 10:16:51] Ahhere : tape decks were the shit. buying games on tape needs to make a comeback
[2017-02-27 10:17:09] Farzad : ThruTheFloor: well, I aim for 5%/mo. 1-5x leverage.
[2017-02-27 10:17:58] Ahhere : seems too high did you actually achieve that
[2017-02-27 10:18:01] Farzad : Ahhere: yeah, took a long time to load a game from a tape
[2017-02-27 10:18:14] Farzad : and there was a program to calibrate the head of the tape reader
[2017-02-27 10:18:26] Farzad : so much hassle ! lol
[2017-02-27 10:18:52] ThruTheFloor : Farzad: Nice, do they do like day trading or do you aim them for more long term trades?
[2017-02-27 10:18:53] Farzad : kids are lucky nowadays
[2017-02-27 10:19:23] Ahhere : yep
[2017-02-27 10:19:25] Farzad : ThruTheFloor: usually my trades get closed in 1-3 days
[2017-02-27 10:21:08] ThruTheFloor : Farzad: Sorry for bugging you with so many questions! Last one, I promise: Did you fork an existing bot, follow a guide somewhere, or just write a bot that follows your natural trading style?
[2017-02-27 10:23:16] Farzad : ThruTheFloor: no, I prefer to write my code from scratch, this way I could understand every possible bug. I used to trade forex for several years. so I knew my strategy pretty well.
[2017-02-27 10:24:27] ThruTheFloor : Farzad: I see, thank you. :p
[2017-02-27 10:28:41] Ugly_Old_Goat : Another great video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQ4MSBh0zGE
[2017-02-27 10:30:06] Ahhere : Ugly_Old_Goat: yep watching
[2017-02-27 10:30:36] Ahhere : Ugly_Old_Goat: what % of your max position size are you today?
[2017-02-27 10:31:42] Farzad : ThruTheFloor: np
[2017-02-27 10:32:03] Ugly_Old_Goat : 100% however I am methodically rolling our March for exchange traded btc capturing the premium
[2017-02-27 10:32:34] Farzad : /wall
[2017-02-27 10:32:39] trollbot : ``` Combined order book of 4 major exchanges: Asks: 4700 Ƀ (0.00%) Bids: 3662 Ƀ (-0.08%) ±$30 deviation from the current price. Last query: 3836 Seconds ago.```
[2017-02-27 10:32:55] ThruTheFloor : Ugly_Old_Goat: So if we dip again you won't be buying anymore? Or would you go over 100% for some more cheap coins?
[2017-02-27 10:33:10] Ahhere : Ugly_Old_Goat: yeah 100% means no dry powder to me
[2017-02-27 10:33:13] Ahhere : seems high
[2017-02-27 10:33:25] Farzad : /wall
[2017-02-27 10:33:28] trollbot : ``` Combined order book of 4 major exchanges: Asks: 4846 Ƀ (3.11%) Bids: 3664 Ƀ (0.05%) ±$30 deviation from the current price. Last query: 3884 Seconds ago.```
[2017-02-27 10:35:23] Ugly_Old_Goat : When I say 50% I always have a reserve to double down. I am 100% long but will double down if we break below 1040
[2017-02-27 10:35:54] Ahhere : ah that answers my q
[2017-02-27 10:37:47] wotan : interesting sidewards movement lets see if we break for more or down
[2017-02-27 10:38:19] Ugly_Old_Goat : When I say 100% I always have a reserve to double down. Again, I will double down on a break below 1040, but I do not expect it as we got that last week
[2017-02-27 10:39:45] wotan : could be breakout for more looks like we had some floors at 1170 and 1172
[2017-02-27 10:40:41] Ugly_Old_Goat : When I say 100% I always have a reserve to double down. Again, I will double down on a break below 1040, but I do not expect it as we got that last week so I am 100% long.
[2017-02-27 10:40:53] Ahhere : lol
[2017-02-27 10:41:31] Apocalyptic : morning boys
[2017-02-27 10:41:42] Ugly_Old_Goat : Ahhere: Most here simply do not get it and never willl
[2017-02-27 10:41:59] Ahhere : Ugly_Old_Goat: oh they'll get it eventually
[2017-02-27 10:42:09] Ahhere : and join buttcoin
[2017-02-27 10:42:17] Ahhere : aka bittercoin
[2017-02-27 10:46:35] Ahhere : Apocalyptic: mooning!
[2017-02-27 10:46:54] Apocalyptic : I love me some moon
[2017-02-27 10:47:25] Apocalyptic : too bad funding on swap isn't mooning too
[2017-02-27 10:50:34] Ahhere : Apocalyptic: yes its pretty meh alright
[2017-02-27 10:54:20] l3f : Ugly_Old_Goat: what if we go 800?
[2017-02-27 10:55:11] Ugly_Old_Goat : l3f: I will be out of my spec position
[2017-02-27 10:55:38] l3f : Haha
[2017-02-27 10:56:00] Farzad : /price
[2017-02-27 10:56:06] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1186.74 (18.67%) Bitfinex : 1183.20 (18.32%) The Woodchipper : 1182.01 (18.20%) itBit : 1184.30 (18.43%) Kraken : 1182.00 (18.20%) GDAX : 1185.65 (18.57%) Last query : 0 Seconds ago.```
[2017-02-27 10:56:29] l3f : Farzad: Use the websocket API to the exchanges so it always returns a realtime quote
[2017-02-27 10:57:25] Farzad : l3f: Thanks for the tip :)
[2017-02-27 11:15:01] l3f : Farzad: the only problem is that all the exchanges have different APIs and it is a pain in the butt
[2017-02-27 11:26:18] SilverKnight : what yall thinking? 1 more dip down before we go up or all bulls have left the pen already?
[2017-02-27 11:26:24] SilverKnight : :P
[2017-02-27 11:26:34] Farzad : /wall
[2017-02-27 11:26:38] trollbot : ``` Combined order book of 4 major exchanges: Asks: 4608 Ƀ (0.00%) Bids: 3330 Ƀ (0.00%) ±$30 deviation from the current price. Last query: 0 Seconds ago.```
[2017-02-27 11:26:55] Farzad : SilverKnight: hard to break 1200
[2017-02-27 11:27:02] SilverKnight : true
[2017-02-27 11:27:27] SilverKnight : thats why im thinking a dip first is more likely at this point
[2017-02-27 11:27:48] Farzad : SilverKnight: yes, it can happen
[2017-02-27 11:28:04] Farzad : but it wont dip that much
[2017-02-27 11:28:18] Farzad : bull is very strong
[2017-02-27 11:31:31] spice : Anyone hedging here?
[2017-02-27 11:36:46] bingbongfly : spice: i'm hedging my cold storage
[2017-02-27 11:36:59] bingbongfly : my short is burning up ;)
[2017-02-27 11:37:25] ytaews : why hedge cold storage? why not just not have it
[2017-02-27 11:38:25] cryptobull : Lol
[2017-02-27 11:39:06] loomdart : Lol
[2017-02-27 11:40:03] cryptobull : Got to hedge it to keep it stable ?
[2017-02-27 11:40:19] ytaews : ppl 4get that
[2017-02-27 11:40:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `DASH7D`: sell 6 @ 0.023434
[2017-02-27 11:40:59] cryptobull : Come on lets see some btc fomo here
[2017-02-27 11:41:09] wurstgelee : yep. lets go, i am loaded
[2017-02-27 11:41:12] wurstgelee : 8)
[2017-02-27 11:41:44] cryptobull : ??
[2017-02-27 11:43:04] rustiv : let's do it bois i'm ready
[2017-02-27 11:59:42] SilverKnight : looks like its gonna dip first to me
[2017-02-27 11:59:56] SilverKnight : maybe 1150s
[2017-02-27 11:59:58] cryptobull : btc-e about toi take the lead
[2017-02-27 12:00:04] jigsaw : bollocks
[2017-02-27 12:02:01] SilverKnight : actually first support looks like it comes in at 1165
[2017-02-27 12:02:09] SilverKnight : ish
[2017-02-27 12:02:35] -_- : roger that
[2017-02-27 12:12:19] Farzad : /wall
[2017-02-27 12:12:22] trollbot : ``` Combined order book of 4 major exchanges: Asks: 4546 Ƀ (-1.35%) Bids: 3753 Ƀ (12.70%) ±$30 deviation from the current price. Last query: 2744 Seconds ago.```
[2017-02-27 12:14:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 3150 @ 1179.39
[2017-02-27 12:15:52] -_- : btce and okc usd both caught up
[2017-02-27 12:18:38] wurstgelee : btfd. again. hw boring
[2017-02-27 12:18:42] wurstgelee : *how
[2017-02-27 12:24:38] -_- : here we go
[2017-02-27 12:24:41] -_- : finally a dip not getting bought up
[2017-02-27 12:24:52] ThruTheFloor : ITS HAPPENING!!!!
[2017-02-27 12:24:57] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 175000 @ 1176.96 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:
[2017-02-27 12:24:57] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 2000 @ 1177.07
[2017-02-27 12:25:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 15513 @ 1190.33
[2017-02-27 12:25:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 5000 @ 1194.42
[2017-02-27 12:25:12] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 25000 @ 1175.02
[2017-02-27 12:25:12] REKT : :btc: :soon: :toilet:
[2017-02-27 12:25:49] -_- : lol damn i didnt get my orders in the 1180's fast enough
[2017-02-27 12:25:53] SilverKnight : watch 1165ish for support
[2017-02-27 12:25:53] .. : so that okc q wall got eaten?
[2017-02-27 12:26:09] -_- : ..: over 100k volume so probably
[2017-02-27 12:26:45] rapidtrades : every 10 down...these stupid over levered longs man
[2017-02-27 12:26:54] rapidtrades : theyre just gambling
[2017-02-27 12:27:23] ThruTheFloor : Fine with me
[2017-02-27 12:27:37] SilverKnight : aaand demand finds its merry little way back into the market place already...
[2017-02-27 12:27:47] SilverKnight : ....
[2017-02-27 12:28:16] SilverKnight : > 1165 keeps supporting
[2017-02-27 12:28:36] ThruTheFloor : Why'd we stop?
[2017-02-27 12:28:49] ThruTheFloor : DIE! BITCOIN DIE!
[2017-02-27 12:28:50] SilverKnight : demand
[2017-02-27 12:28:57] ThruTheFloor : That's no fun :(
[2017-02-27 12:29:00] SilverKnight : they keep buying in at 1165
[2017-02-27 12:29:02] SilverKnight : ish
[2017-02-27 12:29:15] wurstgelee : what a nice little round of btfd that was. again. thanks
[2017-02-27 12:29:26] wurstgelee : (i may live to regret these words soon)
[2017-02-27 12:29:43] ThruTheFloor : wurstgelee: That knife may cut you one day soon
[2017-02-27 12:29:50] ThruTheFloor : (or not idk)
[2017-02-27 12:31:00] wurstgelee : ThruTheFloor: one day, sure. but until then it will have worked 10x
[2017-02-27 12:31:03] wurstgelee : so i am good
[2017-02-27 12:31:10] wurstgelee : (it already worked at least 10 times)
[2017-02-27 12:31:35] ThruTheFloor : You can do something 100 times, but the 101st...
[2017-02-27 12:31:47] rapidtrades : only reason it works is cos this stupid exchanges allows for 100/1 and isolated margin
[2017-02-27 12:31:59] rapidtrades : ur not god gift's to trading
[2017-02-27 12:32:12] arbitrage101 : my mom said i am god's gift
[2017-02-27 12:32:17] SilverKnight : im thinking we are gonna test the demand zone again
[2017-02-27 12:32:18] ThruTheFloor : rapidtrades: So why not take advantage?
[2017-02-27 12:32:24] rapidtrades : any of those 3 should've killed all lvered longs
[2017-02-27 12:32:26] SilverKnight : lets see what happens...
[2017-02-27 12:32:38] SilverKnight : will whoever has been buying, keep absorbing?
[2017-02-27 12:32:43] SilverKnight : or will they cut and run...
[2017-02-27 12:32:44] rapidtrades : 3 crashes*
[2017-02-27 12:32:46] loomdart : lol
[2017-02-27 12:32:48] arbitrage101 : only p ussy trade at 1x leverage
[2017-02-27 12:32:53] arbitrage101 : grow some balllz
[2017-02-27 12:32:53] loomdart : you guys
[2017-02-27 12:33:21] arbitrage101 : 100x leverage == superman
[2017-02-27 12:33:23] rapidtrades : try doing this shit on a normal exchange , the r/r is terrible
[2017-02-27 12:33:42] rapidtrades : scalping 5-10 move up for 100-300 kinfes risk down
[2017-02-27 12:34:04] rapidtrades : u need to do right 10-30 times to make it work
[2017-02-27 12:34:15] Tetsuo : ^
[2017-02-27 12:35:13] wotan : so pockets from weak hands filled time for more legs up
[2017-02-27 12:36:25] heheh lo : moving stashes into eth lol
[2017-02-27 12:36:56] -_- : little ETH fomo and it could be at 0.0145
[2017-02-27 12:37:21] heheh lo : -_-: btc holds some uncertainty whereas eth is clear
[2017-02-27 12:37:23] yungyang : Niggas been building ETH positions for weeks
[2017-02-27 12:37:35] yungyang : really nigga
[2017-02-27 12:37:39] arbitrage101 : eth is for loser
[2017-02-27 12:37:40] wotan : eth looks good right now agree
[2017-02-27 12:37:43] arbitrage101 : zcash is for winner
[2017-02-27 12:37:57] heheh lo : arbitrage101: u're comparing coal with oil
[2017-02-27 12:38:10] -_- : my ETH chart http://i.imgur.com/CfckZAg.png
[2017-02-27 12:38:42] arbitrage101 : heheh lo: right, eth is coal or oil, zcash is cold fusion
[2017-02-27 12:39:32] heheh lo : arbitrage101: see u in 0.014
[2017-02-27 12:40:27] arbitrage101 : heheh lo: sure, see you in 0.014 when bitcoin is at 1000000000
[2017-02-27 12:40:47] SilverKnight : hmm... that was low up volume...
[2017-02-27 12:40:57] heheh lo : arbitrage101: i see that you're one of those moodkids lol
[2017-02-27 12:41:17] arbitrage101 : i am moonguy
[2017-02-27 12:41:19] wotan : SilverKnight: agree
[2017-02-27 12:41:19] arbitrage101 : not moonkid
[2017-02-27 12:41:23] arbitrage101 : rapid is moonkid
[2017-02-27 12:41:27] arbitrage101 : with short
[2017-02-27 12:41:42] -_- : lol
[2017-02-27 12:44:04] SilverKnight : and here we go...
[2017-02-27 12:44:13] arbitrage101 : buy da dip
[2017-02-27 12:44:16] arbitrage101 : work everytime
[2017-02-27 12:44:51] wurstgelee : :D
[2017-02-27 12:49:39] SilverKnight : nope same shit... :D haha
[2017-02-27 12:55:34] wurstgelee : [13:31] rapidtrades: only reason it works is cos this stupid exchanges allows for 100/1 and isolated margin ur not god gift's to trading <-- exactly
[2017-02-27 12:55:42] wurstgelee : work with the conditions and environment u have.
[2017-02-27 12:55:54] wurstgelee : not 100x tho
[2017-02-27 12:58:14] spice : How do you know where the dips bottom is?
[2017-02-27 12:58:54] Ahhere : spice: you just know
[2017-02-27 12:59:02] jigsaw : you need the deep bottom indicator
[2017-02-27 12:59:35] Ahhere : Oh yes dbi essential
[2017-02-27 12:59:36] ThatCEOGuy : wurstgelee: rapid is right though, that sounds like an awful strategy. Just throwing a bunch of 100x yolos against the wall getting liq-ed over and over again hoping one of them catches
[2017-02-27 12:59:56] wurstgelee : lol no, thats not what i do
[2017-02-27 12:59:59] wurstgelee : not at all
[2017-02-27 13:00:25] ThatCEOGuy : Did not say you did, but that's what we were discussing
[2017-02-27 13:00:34] wurstgelee : k ;)
[2017-02-27 13:00:39] ThatCEOGuy : ....
[2017-02-27 13:00:42] Ugly_Old_Goat : Apparently full nodes will likely pass segwit without miners support https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQ4MSBh0zGE
[2017-02-27 13:01:21] wurstgelee : so how would 95% of all mined block signal segwit without the miners? oO
[2017-02-27 13:02:04] rapidtrades : im guesing u just need the core wallet to be a node, dont have to mine
[2017-02-27 13:02:22] rapidtrades : shouldn't it go by hash tho? so they have more power
[2017-02-27 13:02:49] rapidtrades : or i it 1 node=1 vote?
[2017-02-27 13:03:15] zaico : can the future XBT be lower than the original XBT?
[2017-02-27 13:04:13] wurstgelee : rapidtrades: yeah true, but segwit activation is defined by 95% of blocks in last x (1000?) blocks mined
[2017-02-27 13:04:22] wurstgelee : so no segwit without miners
[2017-02-27 13:04:30] wurstgelee : no matter how many % of nodes signal segwit
[2017-02-27 13:04:44] rapidtrades : that makes sense
[2017-02-27 13:05:29] wurstgelee : otherwise u could just spin up a few k nodes via amacon aws or similar to activate sgwit
[2017-02-27 13:05:34] wurstgelee : *amazon
[2017-02-27 13:05:58] rapidtrades : http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-27/goldman-downgrades-tesla-sell-185-price-target-cash-and-execution-risk
[2017-02-27 13:16:06] rapidtrades : ETF odds back to pre-hype levels
[2017-02-27 13:18:31] -_- : some n00bs shorting COIN i see
[2017-02-27 13:19:30] -_- : unconfirmed transactions went from 4,000 yesterday to 19,000 today
[2017-02-27 13:19:41] -_- : always got that weekday demand
[2017-02-27 13:19:53] -_- : i would think more people would use btc on the weekends
[2017-02-27 13:26:18] Tetsuo : for what, ordering pizza to pay a 1$ fee? or what´s the fee right now?
[2017-02-27 13:27:00] Tetsuo : i am using BTC since early 2012 and have never used it beside blackmarket or trading
[2017-02-27 13:28:40] GTmann : btc is great when you need a temp service and can avoid registration and cc/paypal
[2017-02-27 13:29:34] GTmann : like when i needed access to some pdf site, np btc , un/pw emailed, no fuss no muss
[2017-02-27 13:30:33] GTmann : but agree, btc is not even close to mainstream, 5 years away min
[2017-02-27 13:40:27] degen : why do my orders keep canceling???? I set 4 stops, 1 got hit, but the other 3 are gone.
[2017-02-27 13:40:32] laisee : I use btc every week to send money, pay for stuff and top up mobile phone. maybe I am the only one .... ;-/
[2017-02-27 13:43:54] Tetsuo : what´s the advantage over other payment methods`?
[2017-02-27 13:44:11] Tetsuo : beside huge price volatility
[2017-02-27 13:44:34] GTmann : you dont need a counterparty
[2017-02-27 13:45:02] Tetsuo : how do you cash out in USD then if you need em?
[2017-02-27 13:45:03] jigsaw : shit ater that dialogue I am going to short the shit out of bitcoin
[2017-02-27 13:45:46] Tetsuo : i remember 3 years ago, evryone said, oh BTC is for the poor people in africa and microtransactiosn, now they would get ripped off by fees additional to the huge volatility
[2017-02-27 13:46:38] rustiv : degen: don't know where I read that but I think you can only have 1 stop per position
[2017-02-27 13:46:46] GTmann : Tetsuo: im not, i tend to use it, but on the occassion ive cashed, it was through coinbase
[2017-02-27 13:47:36] GTmann : not sure id agree with poor people in africa use case
[2017-02-27 13:47:59] GTmann : if you need clean water, btc is not per se best use case
[2017-02-27 13:49:33] laisee : its a good, not great, payment system. btc needs killer app to really take off.
[2017-02-27 13:50:13] laisee : kinda like internet before napster. no real reason for ppl to use btc now.
[2017-02-27 14:06:03] Ahhere : laisee: I saved money in btc. Found it useful ++
[2017-02-27 14:07:13] laisee : its useful, true. but 3 years ago I thought it would change the world. now its bigger, but not better, than many other cryptos.
[2017-02-27 14:08:21] elmorte : laisee: where do you buy credit with btc?
[2017-02-27 14:08:25] Ahhere : They say people overestimate the changes in decades but underestimate changes over years. I guess that's wrong in ur case.
[2017-02-27 14:08:49] elmorte : last time I checked coinbox.biz, they charged 30% premium
[2017-02-27 14:09:49] laisee : I use coins.ph, bitrefill
[2017-02-27 14:11:55] elmorte : nice, cheers @laisee
[2017-02-27 14:12:16] laisee : no worries.
[2017-02-27 14:13:25] elmorte : Still about 15-20% markup :( You don't mind?
[2017-02-27 14:13:50] mtourig3 : Ahhere: i dont think thats the saying, its people overestimate short-term but underestimate long-term
[2017-02-27 14:14:16] mtourig3 : kinda like a btc bubble lol
[2017-02-27 14:18:01] laisee : im usually topping up from another country, so its cheaper than being there. ;-)
[2017-02-27 14:18:11] Ahhere : We always overestimate the change that will occur in the next two years and underestimate the change that will occur in the next ten. Don't let yourself be lulled into inaction. Bill Gates Read more at: https://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/b/billgates404193.html @mtourig3
[2017-02-27 14:19:03] mtourig3 : okc fut moving
[2017-02-27 14:19:10] Ahhere : Yep I had it bass ackwards
[2017-02-27 14:20:35] -_- : okc quarterly open contracts went from 925,864 to 576,521
[2017-02-27 14:22:04] mtourig3 : -_-: what does that tel you?
[2017-02-27 14:22:15] -_- : no one wants to short
[2017-02-27 14:22:25] mtourig3 : ahh right
[2017-02-27 14:22:39] mtourig3 : you long?
[2017-02-27 14:23:57] mtourig3 : where can you see open contracts?
[2017-02-27 14:34:02] -_- : for okc quarterly?
[2017-02-27 14:34:24] -_- : https://www.okco in.com/future/market.do?symbol=0&contractFrom=12
[2017-02-27 14:36:26] elmorte : laisee: true :) But you can top up with CC or via online banking as well, and it's 1:1
[2017-02-27 14:37:05] Tetsuo : https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/concern-japans-bitcoin-regulation-worse-bitlicense/
[2017-02-27 14:47:29] cryptokeeper : so who is ready for the correction and re-test. Anybody? Or are we all going long?
[2017-02-27 14:51:17] wurstgelee : are we mooning yet?
[2017-02-27 14:51:24] wurstgelee : nope. gonna lay down again
[2017-02-27 14:51:25] wurstgelee : bbl
[2017-02-27 14:58:10] prueba : hi have some questions about your arbitrage presentation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AT2EQlN7TI&t=263s can someone from the staff help me?
[2017-02-27 14:58:26] BitMEX_Greg : prueba: Hi, what are your questions
[2017-02-27 15:00:14] prueba : first: your XBT Pricing spreadsheet doesn't refresh with lastes info. There must be some error with the .js
[2017-02-27 15:00:27] BitMEX_Sam : Hmm let me check on that.
[2017-02-27 15:02:22] BitMEX_Sam : That particular presentation uses https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mHsaDNetxCoZW3bvQkP8NaqeGBebVeFw6jYqbFffJOI/edit?usp=sharing which does not have live data
[2017-02-27 15:04:08] prueba : it uses https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ImBQlxXLcJzbr_NoDWy3UvQ7mxvEikN3jvn7mfqL3AI/edit as well
[2017-02-27 15:04:21] prueba : wich actually uses live data
[2017-02-27 15:08:35] BitMEX_Sam : I've updated the data on that spreadsheet, but it's rather out of date now; we need to update for the perpetual swap
[2017-02-27 15:18:24] prueba : ok thanks
[2017-02-27 15:21:03] -_- : bitcoinchecker updated for android. added a bunch of no name small exchanges but completely skipped bitmex :(
[2017-02-27 15:21:49] prueba : another question. In this spreadsheet https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mHsaDNetxCoZW3bvQkP8NaqeGBebVeFw6jYqbFffJOI/edit?usp=sharing you presuppose that the difference beetween the spot and the future will always be the same. But what if it's goes less by the time you are in?
[2017-02-27 15:23:17] BitMEX_Greg : -_-: Thanks, we have contacted them in the past but will reach out again
[2017-02-27 15:24:26] BitMEX_Greg : prueba: Which cell are you referring to regarding the spread consistency
[2017-02-27 15:24:55] prueba : in your presentation and even in your calculations you expose so
[2017-02-27 15:26:32] BitMEX_Greg : prueba: So you are long spot, short futures to capture the basis carry. If that spread decreases then your trade is making money, you can choose to exit or continuing holding until that spread completely disappears by expiry
[2017-02-27 15:28:27] prueba : ok thanks
[2017-02-27 15:28:40] BitMEX_Greg : np
[2017-02-27 15:29:59] prueba : I'm traying to use the spreadsheet with the current values: contract value 1$ and the current spot and future price. With a USD amount to buy of 2000. But there must be some error because the premium income is 56.000$
[2017-02-27 15:31:02] BitMEX_Greg : Spot right now is 1180, and the future is 1209, so that gives a basis $ spread of $29
[2017-02-27 15:32:16] prueba : and the contract value is 1$ right?
[2017-02-27 15:34:35] BitMEX_Greg : Yes both contracts are worth $1
[2017-02-27 15:41:48] prueba : so why are my profits 56,000?
[2017-02-27 15:42:16] prueba : my numbers are right but the profits are insain. They must be wrong
[2017-02-27 15:44:29] BitMEX_Wally : 56.000 or 56,000 ?
[2017-02-27 15:45:10] prueba : 56,000
[2017-02-27 15:46:48] prueba : contract value 1$ spot 1,181 future price 1,209 USD amount (to buy) 2,000
[2017-02-27 15:47:01] CBF : dont some euro countrys use , instead of .
[2017-02-27 15:47:31] prueba : so?
[2017-02-27 15:48:00] CBF : dunno just caught end of convo wiv 56,000 v 56.000
[2017-02-27 15:49:11] BitMEX_Wally : There is a PNL calculator on the site, click the calculator button in the Place Order tab
[2017-02-27 15:49:39] BitMEX_Greg : prueba: Will need to look into the sheet in more detail, the one you linked me is using Quanto contracts which are now outdated and replaced with inverse contracts and thus could be a difference in the PNL calculation.
[2017-02-27 15:49:41] BitMEX_Wally : If you a short 2000 contracts of XBTH17 with an entry price of 1209 and an exit price of 1180 you have a Profit/Loss of 0.0406 XBT
[2017-02-27 15:50:03] BitMEX_Greg : Spread arbitrage is quite easy to calculate however, you are probably better off calculating your own spreadsheet
[2017-02-27 15:50:07] BitMEX_Wally : 0.0406 XBT at 1180 is 47.908 USD
[2017-02-27 15:50:25] sleger : 47,908 !!!
[2017-02-27 15:50:47] sleger : ^ french
[2017-02-27 15:51:05] prueba : ok thanks
[2017-02-27 15:51:44] prueba : have a look at the spreed is can be very usefull for people who want to do some arbitrage
[2017-02-27 15:52:30] prueba : i mean if you can repair it
[2017-02-27 15:52:49] sleger : It worked fine, the issue must be something else ...
[2017-02-27 15:53:36] BitMEX_Greg : prueba: I would encourage you to create your own spreadsheet, that way you can fully understand the mechanics of the trade
[2017-02-27 15:55:13] prueba : I will
[2017-02-27 15:55:15] prueba : thanks
[2017-02-27 15:57:34] rapidtrades : sleger: COIN odds dropping bra
[2017-02-27 15:57:41] rapidtrades : doesn't look good for ur prediction
[2017-02-27 15:57:48] sleger : rapidtrades: which prediction ?
[2017-02-27 15:58:00] rapidtrades : u said it will be approved
[2017-02-27 15:58:03] sleger : NO
[2017-02-27 15:58:09] rapidtrades : YES U DID
[2017-02-27 15:58:11] sleger : I said less than 50% chance
[2017-02-27 15:58:16] sleger : but more than you think
[2017-02-27 15:58:28] rapidtrades : how much %
[2017-02-27 15:58:32] wurstgelee : 30
[2017-02-27 15:58:36] wurstgelee : some more mebbe
[2017-02-27 15:58:44] sleger : <50
[2017-02-27 15:58:44] rapidtrades : wurstgelee: noone axed u dip buyer
[2017-02-27 15:58:48] sleger : >20
[2017-02-27 15:58:59] rapidtrades : yeah i'd say 15%
[2017-02-27 15:59:02] wurstgelee : rapidtrades: noone answered you
[2017-02-27 15:59:20] rapidtrades : i upped my odds a bit after that hype buying
[2017-02-27 15:59:26] rapidtrades : but looks like it was just hype
[2017-02-27 16:00:21] wurstgelee : BitMEX_Sam: still here? and enough motivation for another small UI bug? ;)
[2017-02-27 16:00:36] BitMEX_Greg : wurstgelee: I am around and can pass on a message
[2017-02-27 16:01:05] rapidtrades : http://news.forexlive.com/!/trump-i-cant-do-tax-plan-until-health-plan-costs-known-20170227
[2017-02-27 16:01:29] wurstgelee : BitMEX_Greg: The field "Filled" in active Orders TAB never gets updated while the order is not fully filled - even if partial fills happen
[2017-02-27 16:02:04] wurstgelee : also the status doesnt change to filled once it is filled
[2017-02-27 16:02:08] wurstgelee : or onyl with a big delay
[2017-02-27 16:02:37] BitMEX_Greg : wurstgelee: Thanks, will try to recreate in test-net
[2017-02-27 16:02:38] wurstgelee : this results in "cancel" option being shown while the order is long filled
[2017-02-27 16:02:51] wurstgelee : (pressing cancel anyways results in error ofc)
[2017-02-27 16:04:13] rapidtrades : sleger: hows miami
[2017-02-27 16:04:16] sleger : rapidtrades: you who likes trend-following, did you take a look at eth ?
[2017-02-27 16:04:30] sleger : I left almost 24h ago
[2017-02-27 16:04:33] shiroe : it seems it waits for the big drop. lol
[2017-02-27 16:04:58] shiroe : are we looking for $1050 test support in 3 days? hmm.
[2017-02-27 16:05:22] rapidtrades : sleger: oh, i thought u were staying 1 month?
[2017-02-27 16:05:47] sleger : not sure why you thought that
[2017-02-27 16:05:57] rapidtrades : cos u said that lol
[2017-02-27 16:06:06] rapidtrades : dam bro u drank a lot past few days
[2017-02-27 16:06:34] sleger : i'm done drinking for the month
[2017-02-27 16:06:47] rapidtrades : eth/btc not in uptrend yet on daily charts
[2017-02-27 16:07:27] sleger : you can look at ethusd if you prefer
[2017-02-27 16:07:38] rapidtrades : i mostly trade btc/usd and ltc/usd and others by exception
[2017-02-27 16:07:46] rapidtrades : if they setup rly nice
[2017-02-27 16:08:00] sleger : im flat btcusd but still long ethusd a lot
[2017-02-27 16:08:30] rapidtrades : yes ethusd is in a bull trend
[2017-02-27 16:11:06] mahouni : ok if you say so will look for entry
[2017-02-27 16:11:40] rapidtrades : too late now
[2017-02-27 16:12:07] rapidtrades : vol is too high now, odds are no longer favorable
[2017-02-27 16:13:03] rapidtrades : ltc/usd is worth watching, its been range-bound for over 1 year now
[2017-02-27 16:13:11] rapidtrades : its overdue for a strong trend
[2017-02-27 16:14:43] rapidtrades : im short right now but will switch if we breakout higher
[2017-02-27 16:14:43] loomdart : yawn
[2017-02-27 16:14:47] loomdart : guys why is bitcoin still going up
[2017-02-27 16:14:58] loomdart : is it korean hackers?
[2017-02-27 16:16:27] rustiv : did you except some doom and altparty? @loomdart
[2017-02-27 16:16:28] sleger : somalian pirates
[2017-02-27 16:16:39] rapidtrades : https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/5wg3l3/roger_ver_selling_his_bitcoin_for_dash_to_protest/
[2017-02-27 16:16:40] mahouni : Youre right but will keep eye out for eth as well if something opens up
[2017-02-27 16:16:45] loomdart : rustiv: I sold my nan so I could short more bitcoin
[2017-02-27 16:16:52] rapidtrades : Roger caused that breakout in dash
[2017-02-27 16:17:10] rapidtrades : i had a piece at the start but got closed by the weekly expiration
[2017-02-27 16:18:06] loomdart : guys
[2017-02-27 16:18:10] loomdart : anyone know how to get a missing relative back
[2017-02-27 16:18:15] loomdart : their limbs?
[2017-02-27 16:18:33] Papou : scary okcoin top holders reducing contracts in the pump