This is a mirror of the original BitMEX trollbox archive that used to be online here.
BitMEX disabled their archive after the DDOS attack so I have decided to make my mirror publicly available.

Well now, a few days after I made this mirror available to the public, the original archive from BitMEX is online again.
But since it is still limited (neutered to the last few hundred messages) I will keep my FULL mirror alive.

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[2017-02-27 08:30:33] zanza : kept bank honest
[2017-02-27 08:30:44] zanza : well, somewhat
[2017-02-27 08:30:56] zanza : the problem is, people using "Bitcoin is gold" expression now
[2017-02-27 08:31:08] zanza : are people who think it should have high transaction fees, and slow times
[2017-02-27 08:31:08] mahouni : Lol people in power are never honest gold, jellybeans or not, anywhere in world
[2017-02-27 08:31:17] mahouni : Keep reading zerohedge
[2017-02-27 08:31:20] .. : "Segwit is good, but need to block it because Core, Blockstream, AXA, Bildenberg".. great arguments
[2017-02-27 08:31:21] longbydefault : Ugly_Old_Goat: i can accept that scenario... but couldn't we have both? i'm imagining once we have segwit and LN... it would be harder to increase blocksize... since we are just going to be over dependent on off chain solutions
[2017-02-27 08:31:38] longbydefault : but if we do BU first... then we get best of both worlds
[2017-02-27 08:31:59] zanza : ..: Its not that SegWit is bad, its that BLockstream Core wants to cripple bitcoin network
[2017-02-27 08:32:07] zanza : remember HK agreement?
[2017-02-27 08:32:15] .. : great argument again ? wtf, do you read what you say?
[2017-02-27 08:32:16] zanza : SegWit + blocksize increase
[2017-02-27 08:32:49] zanza : Blockstream wants to sell you some tech that isn't even around yet
[2017-02-27 08:33:00] zanza : "Schnorr/LIghtning"
[2017-02-27 08:33:03] Tux26 : longbydefault: exactly
[2017-02-27 08:33:04] .. : if Segwit is good, it should be activated, no matter if Core or my mother made it
[2017-02-27 08:33:24] zanza : the problem is, Blockstream WILL NOT increase blocksize
[2017-02-27 08:33:44] zanza : when the blocks are full
[2017-02-27 08:33:46] .. : how the fuck will they sell an opensource protocol? how will they stop blockchain.infos implementation of thunder?
[2017-02-27 08:33:56] InvalidUser : The blocks are full, the simplest solution is to make the blocks bigger.. Then implement Setwit. There is no reason both can not be done. Also there is not one good reason not to increase the block size
[2017-02-27 08:34:05] zanza : InvalidUser: agreed
[2017-02-27 08:34:17] InvalidUser : Not one person on the planet is asking for 0.5 MB blocks
[2017-02-27 08:34:22] zanza : However Blockstream will not increase blocksize
[2017-02-27 08:34:31] zanza : they WANT the network to be congested and full
[2017-02-27 08:34:32] zanza : and high fees
[2017-02-27 08:34:34] .. : sure, but all his "arguments" are based on idiotic conspiracy theories to block segwit, thats just stupid
[2017-02-27 08:34:38] InvalidUser : Then we will take that choice away from them
[2017-02-27 08:35:13] zanza : ..: what is my conspiracy theory? Is the network not full now?
[2017-02-27 08:35:22] zanza : are the fees not record high?
[2017-02-27 08:35:39] Farzad : /wall
[2017-02-27 08:35:44] zanza : you know Blockstream/Core devs dont see it as a problem at all
[2017-02-27 08:35:44] trollbot : ``` Combined order book of 4 major exchanges: Asks: 4725 Ƀ (-2.76%) Bids: 3411 Ƀ (-8.65%) * ±$30 deviation from the current price.```
[2017-02-27 08:35:46] Ugly_Old_Goat : longbydefault: Yes, possibly both. But BU does not want both. Segwit allows for both if needed. Again, you need to look at how the gold standard operated. Gold was simply the governor to keep banks honest. Just as btc will be the standard to keep off chain solutions honest
[2017-02-27 08:35:57] zanza : they think its good the fees are high, and think the blocks are full becasue "spam"
[2017-02-27 08:36:06] InvalidUser : ..: no one wants to block Segwit.. There are people trying to stop the blocksize from getting bigger
[2017-02-27 08:36:19] .. : zanza seems to be very much against segwit
[2017-02-27 08:36:25] .. : despite saying its "ok"
[2017-02-27 08:36:33] .. : but bad cuz blockstream
[2017-02-27 08:36:46] .. : doesnt make sense? right.
[2017-02-27 08:36:56] zanza : the simplest thing to do now is just increase the blocksize
[2017-02-27 08:37:04] zanza : blocks are full, transactions slow
[2017-02-27 08:37:10] .. : how is a HF more easy than activating segwit?
[2017-02-27 08:37:10] zanza : we can so SegWit also
[2017-02-27 08:37:25] longbydefault : Ugly_Old_Goat: thanks i'll try to read up on it...
[2017-02-27 08:37:27] InvalidUser : One group is saying lets only implement our plan. The other group is saying lets implement all the things
[2017-02-27 08:37:56] .. : other group = Core? right.
[2017-02-27 08:38:09] zanza : ..: here is a question for you. Blockstream is a private company with $80 Million in funding. What is their product?
[2017-02-27 08:38:21] zanza : How are they getting their investors a rerturn ?
[2017-02-27 08:38:26] zanza : whats the busienss plan ?
[2017-02-27 08:38:30] .. : why should I give a fk about that?
[2017-02-27 08:38:43] longbydefault : because it is sketchy...
[2017-02-27 08:38:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 26136 @ 1177.07
[2017-02-27 08:38:54] zanza : You think its just Santa Claus
[2017-02-27 08:38:59] .. : what is sketchy? that from the 100+ core developers a few are also employed by blockstream ?
[2017-02-27 08:38:59] zanza : giving you a nice gift?
[2017-02-27 08:39:25] zanza : Blockstream now is politically controlling the scaling discussion
[2017-02-27 08:39:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 500 @ 1176.36
[2017-02-27 08:39:37] zanza : banning non SegWit from /r/Bitcoi
[2017-02-27 08:39:43] zanza : and bitcointalk.org
[2017-02-27 08:39:46] .. : lol
[2017-02-27 08:39:54] .. : Core = Blockstream = theymos
[2017-02-27 08:39:56] .. : what else ?
[2017-02-27 08:40:20] zanza : Do you disagree that /r/bitcoin banned BU and XT discussiion ?
[2017-02-27 08:40:22] .. : how about you make up arguments and look at the actual solutions/code rather than making connections in your head
[2017-02-27 08:40:26] zanza : is that a conspiracy ?
[2017-02-27 08:40:37] .. : no, thats their moderation policy
[2017-02-27 08:40:54] .. : it is a conspiracy to somehow link that to blockstream
[2017-02-27 08:41:44] zanza : ..: would you be ok with blocksize increase?
[2017-02-27 08:41:53] zanza : max blocksize = 4MB
[2017-02-27 08:41:56] zanza : or something like that
[2017-02-27 08:42:08] .. : yes, I support a safe HF after segwit 100%, if Core will not release it I will make one myself
[2017-02-27 08:42:20] .. : segwit just seems like a nobrainer to do first to me
[2017-02-27 08:42:28] zanza : ok
[2017-02-27 08:42:42] zanza : then I think my opinion is pretty close to you
[2017-02-27 08:42:58] InvalidUser : What ever the blocksize is set to we will run in to the same problem in x amount of time.. It should be unlimited.
[2017-02-27 08:43:04] .. : I also think the majority of Core developers and supporters think the same
[2017-02-27 08:43:18] .. : I dont think we should let 5 mining pool operators decide the size though
[2017-02-27 08:43:21] zanza : ..: Gregory Maxwell doesn't
[2017-02-27 08:43:23] zanza : or Adam Back
[2017-02-27 08:43:26] InvalidUser : BTC was built by Satoshi with an unlimited block size
[2017-02-27 08:43:33] .. : I am very confident they want a HF after segwit too
[2017-02-27 08:43:53] .. : I could find some sources (reddit posts etc) where they state that, but too lazy
[2017-02-27 08:43:59] zanza : there is no Core roadmap for blocksize increase at all
[2017-02-27 08:44:11] InvalidUser : /\
[2017-02-27 08:44:24] zanza : they are basically saying Lighting and 2nd layer solution
[2017-02-27 08:44:29] zanza : is going to solve all the problem
[2017-02-27 08:44:40] .. : true, the idea is "lets see how segwit (= bigger blocksizes) gets handled by the network, then decide how to increase it".. seems safe/scientific
[2017-02-27 08:44:42] InvalidUser : It does not work with there biz plan to increase the block size
[2017-02-27 08:45:05] .. : conspiracy theory, LN = opensource protocol, I dont see how they can earn much from that
[2017-02-27 08:45:11] zanza : ..: I wish that was true, but their current stated position is the fees are fine
[2017-02-27 08:45:15] .. : if they ask money for it, ill just use thunder thats based on LN
[2017-02-27 08:45:20] zanza : they even think fees should be HIGHER
[2017-02-27 08:45:37] .. : you keep saying "they" as if 100 Core developers all think the same, they dont
[2017-02-27 08:45:59] .. : just Luke has an extreme view from time to time that gets portrayed as "Core's opinion".. doenst make it true
[2017-02-27 08:46:14] zanza : I'm leading out Luke, because he wants a blocksize decrease
[2017-02-27 08:46:19] InvalidUser : AXA the largest insurance company in the world did not invest millions into Blockstream for charity..
[2017-02-27 08:46:19] zanza : leaving out *
[2017-02-27 08:46:50] InvalidUser : http://www.coindesk.com/blockstream-55-million-series-a/
[2017-02-27 08:47:09] .. : lol, you must be delusional to think thats somehow an argument for anything
[2017-02-27 08:49:38] zanza : ..: I hope most SegWit supporters have your same viewpoint
[2017-02-27 08:50:26] zanza : and in the future if Blocksize increase is needed it will happen
[2017-02-27 08:50:32] .. : from my perspective I am confident they do
[2017-02-27 08:50:51] .. : the "$100 tx fees are fine" are extremists imo
[2017-02-27 08:51:14] zanza : there is definitely a power struggle now with miners/developers
[2017-02-27 08:51:33] zanza : it could get ugly even this year, and I think price would tank if there is serious instability
[2017-02-27 08:51:52] .. : I do agree, and I personally think BU is making things much worse too
[2017-02-27 08:52:01] zanza : We will see, once either SegWit or BU gets over 50% then things will change
[2017-02-27 08:52:15] zanza : right now, neither of them even have barely 25%
[2017-02-27 08:52:30] zanza : so there is still a lot of time before things will happen
[2017-02-27 08:53:40] .. : yes, its pretty much some chinese miners upset there is no HF in Core yet TBH, I am just not confident if deciding on HF specifics before segwit is activated is smart
[2017-02-27 08:54:24] .. : unlimited is stupid IMO, as there should be always a limit to sustain decentralization and costs of nodes "reasonable" and letting some mining pool operators decide on it seems to risky
[2017-02-27 08:55:59] .. : so safe dynamic increase seems best to me, maybe even Jeff's BIP where miners can still influence it a little bit
[2017-02-27 08:56:04] zanza : so what is the work around ?
[2017-02-27 08:56:12] Farzad : /wall
[2017-02-27 08:56:15] trollbot : ``` Combined order book of 4 major exchanges: Asks: 4549 Ƀ (-3.72%) Bids: 2987 Ƀ (-12.43%) * ±$30 deviation from the current price.```
[2017-02-27 08:57:25] elmorte : Farzad: what's the % in the brackets?
[2017-02-27 08:57:48] Farzad : elmorte: percetange of change compare to last query
[2017-02-27 08:58:06] elmorte : ahh, k
[2017-02-27 08:58:25] elmorte : then adding the time interval since the last query would be helpful
[2017-02-27 08:58:41] elmorte : /wall
[2017-02-27 08:58:44] trollbot : ``` Combined order book of 4 major exchanges: Asks: 4407 Ƀ (-3.12%) Bids: 3121 Ƀ (4.49%) * ±$30 deviation from the current price.```
[2017-02-27 08:59:24] Farzad : elmorte: great idea !
[2017-02-27 08:59:28] Farzad : will do it
[2017-02-27 08:59:55] elmorte : :)
[2017-02-27 09:05:11] Farzad : /wall
[2017-02-27 09:05:14] trollbot : ``` Combined order book of 4 major exchanges: Asks: 4472 Ƀ (1.47%) Bids: 3096 Ƀ (-0.80%) * ±$30 deviation from the current price.```
[2017-02-27 09:05:33] Farzad : /price
[2017-02-27 09:05:36] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1179.71 (-0.29%) Bitfinex : 1176.70 (-0.88%) The Woodchipper : 1176.75 (-0.74%) itBit : 1179.34 (-0.59%) Kraken : 1175.61 (-0.46%) GDAX : 1183.50 (-0.39%) ```
[2017-02-27 09:05:57] Farzad : a lot of resistance @1200
[2017-02-27 09:08:40] l3f : Farzad: you'd think the shorts sold the bottom already
[2017-02-27 09:08:46] l3f : but there's a bit more to clear out
[2017-02-27 09:09:28] Farzad : l3f: I agree
[2017-02-27 09:19:19] odbm : ETF dropped pretty big any news?
[2017-02-27 09:22:08] Farzad : /price
[2017-02-27 09:22:11] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1177.10 (17.71%) Bitfinex : 1178.50 (17.85%) The Woodchipper : 1177.09 (17.71%) itBit : 1179.46 (17.95%) Kraken : 1177.96 (17.80%) GDAX : 1181.33 (18.13%) * Last query : 0 Seconds ago.
[2017-02-27 09:23:08] Farzad : odbm: thats not pretty big
[2017-02-27 09:23:16] Farzad : look at chart history
[2017-02-27 09:23:45] Farzad : /price
[2017-02-27 09:23:45] odbm : lol didnt see that spread
[2017-02-27 09:23:47] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1177.55 (17.75%) Bitfinex : 1178.70 (17.87%) The Woodchipper : 1177.09 (17.71%) itBit : 1181.23 (18.12%) Kraken : 1177.96 (17.80%) GDAX : 1182.03 (18.20%) * Last query : 0 Seconds ago.```
[2017-02-27 09:25:08] InvalidUser : Were winning
[2017-02-27 09:25:24] InvalidUser : Other then JPY
[2017-02-27 09:25:31] odbm : when bitmex calculates my ROE are they going by mark price or last sell price?
[2017-02-27 09:28:10] -_- : Mark
[2017-02-27 09:28:37] Farzad : /wall
[2017-02-27 09:28:44] trollbot : ``` Combined order book of 4 major exchanges: Asks: 4736 Ƀ (0.00%) Bids: 3922 Ƀ (0.00%) ±$30 deviation from the current price. Last query: 0 Seconds ago.```
[2017-02-27 09:38:02] Farzad : /wall
[2017-02-27 09:38:06] trollbot : ``` Combined order book of 4 major exchanges: Asks: 4716 Ƀ (-0.42%) Bids: 3732 Ƀ (-4.84%) ±$30 deviation from the current price. Last query: 562 Seconds ago.```
[2017-02-27 09:40:12] elmorte : :thumbsup:
[2017-02-27 09:40:18] elmorte : /wall
[2017-02-27 09:40:19] InvalidUser : sell
[2017-02-27 09:40:21] trollbot : ``` Combined order book of 4 major exchanges: Asks: 4816 Ƀ (2.12%) Bids: 3692 Ƀ (-1.07%) ±$30 deviation from the current price. Last query: 698 Seconds ago.```
[2017-02-27 09:40:28] elmorte : whoops...
[2017-02-27 09:41:06] KyllingLolsson : Hey... I dont understand that wall thing.How do i read the data?
[2017-02-27 09:41:19] InvalidUser : were going long
[2017-02-27 09:41:34] elmorte : amount of BTC required to raise/lower the price by $40
[2017-02-27 09:41:38] elmorte : $30
[2017-02-27 09:42:03] KyllingLolsson : @InvalidUser Long? All i see is down.
[2017-02-27 09:42:08] KyllingLolsson : elmorte: ok get it
[2017-02-27 09:42:45] Ahhere : ok bad hombres who is short
[2017-02-27 09:43:20] Ahhere : admit it
[2017-02-27 09:44:23] KyllingLolsson : i got no position atm, but i don't see it going up right now
[2017-02-27 09:47:05] ThruTheFloor : To the moon!!! ┗(°0°)┛
[2017-02-27 09:47:19] KyllingLolsson : ThruTheFloor: how?
[2017-02-27 09:47:26] ThruTheFloor : KyllingLolsson: By going up
[2017-02-27 09:47:34] KyllingLolsson : by gut feeling?
[2017-02-27 09:47:37] KyllingLolsson : or TA?
[2017-02-27 09:47:46] ThruTheFloor : Yes
[2017-02-27 09:47:53] KyllingLolsson : yes to what
[2017-02-27 09:48:10] ThruTheFloor : Yup
[2017-02-27 09:48:14] KyllingLolsson : ...
[2017-02-27 09:48:18] ThruTheFloor : Exactly
[2017-02-27 09:48:42] KyllingLolsson : I genuinely want to know how this is going up
[2017-02-27 09:49:18] InvalidUser : lol
[2017-02-27 09:49:19] ThruTheFloor : Then you're gonna have to ask someone who's entire trading strategy is based on a coin flip every 2 hours
[2017-02-27 09:49:24] ThruTheFloor : sint&
[2017-02-27 09:49:28] ThruTheFloor : isn't*
[2017-02-27 09:50:00] loomdart : lol
[2017-02-27 09:50:17] KyllingLolsson : whatever
[2017-02-27 09:50:36] loomdart : https://www.tradingview.com/x/tnTE6dAX/
[2017-02-27 09:50:39] loomdart : there you go pal :)
[2017-02-27 09:50:57] KyllingLolsson : K so you're a scalper
[2017-02-27 09:51:18] ThruTheFloor : loomdart: This is all I see: ಠ_ಠ
[2017-02-27 09:52:25] Ahhere : ThruTheFloor: i would like to take a moment commend your trolling. it is persistent, focused and unrelenting. well done good sir. Any tips for a noob troll?
[2017-02-27 09:52:58] loomdart : So what we buying post-new-ATH?
[2017-02-27 09:53:43] ThruTheFloor : Ahhere: Sure, buddy. It's simple? You know that filter in your head that stops you from saying something stupid, obvious, or annoying? Yeah just turn that off and you're good to go. Direct thought to keyboard.
[2017-02-27 09:56:25] Ahhere : thanks for sharing this nugget so obvious in hindsight
[2017-02-27 09:57:25] ThruTheFloor : Ahhere: No problem at all. Honestly after putting in an honest 8 hours of trolling on here every day, it's nice to finally receive the recognition I so obviously deserve.
[2017-02-27 09:57:58] ThruTheFloor : loomdart: I was thinking I would use my new vast reserves of wealth to buy more money, then maybe idk pick up a cocaine habit or something
[2017-02-27 09:58:09] Ahhere : sadly there will never be a troll awards. one must accept the thankless nature of this profession
[2017-02-27 09:58:53] elmorte : There is a trollbox user award...habibi won 2BTC for it
[2017-02-27 09:58:55] ThruTheFloor : I also want to try one of those $30k/night escorts. I wanna see if they really are worth the price over the $5 handjob behind the Wendy's I usually spring for
[2017-02-27 09:59:10] elmorte : no one's gonna pay you
[2017-02-27 09:59:14] elmorte : 30k @ThruTheFloor
[2017-02-27 09:59:40] Ahhere : elmorte: wow and then he retired?
[2017-02-27 09:59:50] elmorte : Ahhere: lol, seems like it
[2017-02-27 10:00:00] elmorte : I'm sure he's lurking somewhere
[2017-02-27 10:00:13] ThruTheFloor : Damn, @Ahhere raised my spirits and you @elmorte quickly destroyed them and shat all over the remains. Nice.
[2017-02-27 10:00:55] Ahhere : ThruTheFloor: quick tip - always check cheaper escorts for signs of std
[2017-02-27 10:01:03] Ahhere : its kind of a pro life tip
[2017-02-27 10:01:09] Ahhere : can get a big discount if you find someting
[2017-02-27 10:01:18] elmorte : haha
[2017-02-27 10:02:01] ThruTheFloor : Ahhere: Nah, I've already got every std known to man, and 3 only known to monkeys. There's nothing they can do to me that I can't give to them 10 fold
[2017-02-27 10:02:23] Ahhere : ThruTheFloor: ye but she doesnt know that
[2017-02-27 10:03:42] ThruTheFloor : Ahhere: I feel like the black shriveled mass of flesh in my pants would give it away
[2017-02-27 10:04:01] Ahhere : lol true just say ur mixed race
[2017-02-27 10:04:04] Ahhere : half pigmy
[2017-02-27 10:04:54] Ahhere : *pygmy
[2017-02-27 10:05:41] ThruTheFloor : Do pygmy dicks ooze pus and blood, have grotesque tumors all over, smell like rotten flesh, or form the nesting grounds of various species of maggots and flies?
[2017-02-27 10:06:03] ThruTheFloor : Cuz if they do then you might be on to something!
[2017-02-27 10:06:25] Ahhere : lol not a cock connoisseur unfortunately but I guess not
[2017-02-27 10:06:44] Farzad : /walll
[2017-02-27 10:06:57] Farzad : /wall
[2017-02-27 10:07:00] trollbot : ``` Combined order book of 4 major exchanges: Asks: 4700 Ƀ (-2.41%) Bids: 3665 Ƀ (-0.73%) ±$30 deviation from the current price. Last query: 2296 Seconds ago.```
[2017-02-27 10:07:27] Ahhere : nice update @Farzad
[2017-02-27 10:07:35] Farzad : Ahhere: ty
[2017-02-27 10:08:04] Ahhere : your talents are wasted on us
[2017-02-27 10:08:25] Farzad : Ahhere: I hope it is useful for u :)
[2017-02-27 10:08:41] Ahhere : /joke
[2017-02-27 10:08:52] trollbot : ``` If my wife made a dollar for every sexist joke I make She'd be $.77 richer right now ```
[2017-02-27 10:09:21] Ahhere : do you pro
[2017-02-27 10:09:41] Ahhere : *put your talents to use other than here? @Farzad
[2017-02-27 10:09:59] Farzad : Ahhere: I have several trading bots
[2017-02-27 10:11:12] Ahhere : wwen did u start learning? i think is too late for me but would love that skill
[2017-02-27 10:11:28] Ahhere : *its
[2017-02-27 10:11:42] Farzad : Ahhere: I started a when I was like 10 years old
[2017-02-27 10:11:55] Ahhere : lol and what u now like 12? *crosses fingers*
[2017-02-27 10:11:59] Farzad : 20 years ago ;)
[2017-02-27 10:12:12] Ahhere : ah shite was afraid ud say that
[2017-02-27 10:12:26] Farzad : lol, why ? are u 12 ?
[2017-02-27 10:12:38] Ahhere : no I was hoping it just too 2 years to get to your level
[2017-02-27 10:12:51] Ahhere : i was 12 once
[2017-02-27 10:13:02] elmorte : Farzad: what was the first lang you used?
[2017-02-27 10:13:16] Farzad : Actually u can get to my level in less than 2 years !
[2017-02-27 10:13:24] Farzad : elmorte: BASIC
[2017-02-27 10:13:34] Ahhere : Farzad: if I'm a genius?
[2017-02-27 10:13:43] Ahhere : which I am btw
[2017-02-27 10:13:50] elmorte : Visual Basic here...almost the same ;)
[2017-02-27 10:13:52] Ahhere : :|
[2017-02-27 10:14:14] Farzad : Ahhere: no, I am serious, It is not as hard as u think. but you should love coding.
[2017-02-27 10:14:47] elmorte : When I first realized that you could actually tell the computer what to do...mind blown!
[2017-02-27 10:14:53] Farzad : elmorte: Yes, I started on a Commodore 64. If you know what it is. Visual Basic came years later.
[2017-02-27 10:15:18] Ahhere : zx spectrum here @Farzad
[2017-02-27 10:15:21] ThruTheFloor : Farzad: Dude, what returns do your bots make for you? I'm thinking of writing my own.
[2017-02-27 10:15:21] elmorte : yeah of course, never owned one but play many
[2017-02-27 10:15:25] InvalidUser : I used to be able to code in basic
[2017-02-27 10:15:27] elmorte : played*
[2017-02-27 10:15:53] elmorte : Actually, I may have used BASIC for my first project
[2017-02-27 10:16:02] elmorte : But it would've been on a PC
[2017-02-27 10:16:18] InvalidUser : I used to draw stupid pictures with it.
[2017-02-27 10:16:22] Farzad : Ahhere: cool, my brother had one ! I remember it was small and thin :D
[2017-02-27 10:16:31] elmorte : yeah, with a tape deck
[2017-02-27 10:16:51] Ahhere : tape decks were the shit. buying games on tape needs to make a comeback
[2017-02-27 10:17:09] Farzad : ThruTheFloor: well, I aim for 5%/mo. 1-5x leverage.
[2017-02-27 10:17:58] Ahhere : seems too high did you actually achieve that
[2017-02-27 10:18:01] Farzad : Ahhere: yeah, took a long time to load a game from a tape
[2017-02-27 10:18:14] Farzad : and there was a program to calibrate the head of the tape reader
[2017-02-27 10:18:26] Farzad : so much hassle ! lol
[2017-02-27 10:18:52] ThruTheFloor : Farzad: Nice, do they do like day trading or do you aim them for more long term trades?
[2017-02-27 10:18:53] Farzad : kids are lucky nowadays
[2017-02-27 10:19:23] Ahhere : yep
[2017-02-27 10:19:25] Farzad : ThruTheFloor: usually my trades get closed in 1-3 days
[2017-02-27 10:21:08] ThruTheFloor : Farzad: Sorry for bugging you with so many questions! Last one, I promise: Did you fork an existing bot, follow a guide somewhere, or just write a bot that follows your natural trading style?
[2017-02-27 10:23:16] Farzad : ThruTheFloor: no, I prefer to write my code from scratch, this way I could understand every possible bug. I used to trade forex for several years. so I knew my strategy pretty well.
[2017-02-27 10:24:27] ThruTheFloor : Farzad: I see, thank you. :p
[2017-02-27 10:28:41] Ugly_Old_Goat : Another great video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQ4MSBh0zGE
[2017-02-27 10:30:06] Ahhere : Ugly_Old_Goat: yep watching
[2017-02-27 10:30:36] Ahhere : Ugly_Old_Goat: what % of your max position size are you today?
[2017-02-27 10:31:42] Farzad : ThruTheFloor: np
[2017-02-27 10:32:03] Ugly_Old_Goat : 100% however I am methodically rolling our March for exchange traded btc capturing the premium
[2017-02-27 10:32:34] Farzad : /wall
[2017-02-27 10:32:39] trollbot : ``` Combined order book of 4 major exchanges: Asks: 4700 Ƀ (0.00%) Bids: 3662 Ƀ (-0.08%) ±$30 deviation from the current price. Last query: 3836 Seconds ago.```
[2017-02-27 10:32:55] ThruTheFloor : Ugly_Old_Goat: So if we dip again you won't be buying anymore? Or would you go over 100% for some more cheap coins?
[2017-02-27 10:33:10] Ahhere : Ugly_Old_Goat: yeah 100% means no dry powder to me
[2017-02-27 10:33:13] Ahhere : seems high
[2017-02-27 10:33:25] Farzad : /wall
[2017-02-27 10:33:28] trollbot : ``` Combined order book of 4 major exchanges: Asks: 4846 Ƀ (3.11%) Bids: 3664 Ƀ (0.05%) ±$30 deviation from the current price. Last query: 3884 Seconds ago.```
[2017-02-27 10:35:23] Ugly_Old_Goat : When I say 50% I always have a reserve to double down. I am 100% long but will double down if we break below 1040
[2017-02-27 10:35:54] Ahhere : ah that answers my q
[2017-02-27 10:37:47] wotan : interesting sidewards movement lets see if we break for more or down
[2017-02-27 10:38:19] Ugly_Old_Goat : When I say 100% I always have a reserve to double down. Again, I will double down on a break below 1040, but I do not expect it as we got that last week
[2017-02-27 10:39:45] wotan : could be breakout for more looks like we had some floors at 1170 and 1172
[2017-02-27 10:40:41] Ugly_Old_Goat : When I say 100% I always have a reserve to double down. Again, I will double down on a break below 1040, but I do not expect it as we got that last week so I am 100% long.
[2017-02-27 10:40:53] Ahhere : lol
[2017-02-27 10:41:31] Apocalyptic : morning boys
[2017-02-27 10:41:42] Ugly_Old_Goat : Ahhere: Most here simply do not get it and never willl
[2017-02-27 10:41:59] Ahhere : Ugly_Old_Goat: oh they'll get it eventually
[2017-02-27 10:42:09] Ahhere : and join buttcoin
[2017-02-27 10:42:17] Ahhere : aka bittercoin
[2017-02-27 10:46:35] Ahhere : Apocalyptic: mooning!
[2017-02-27 10:46:54] Apocalyptic : I love me some moon
[2017-02-27 10:47:25] Apocalyptic : too bad funding on swap isn't mooning too
[2017-02-27 10:50:34] Ahhere : Apocalyptic: yes its pretty meh alright
[2017-02-27 10:54:20] l3f : Ugly_Old_Goat: what if we go 800?
[2017-02-27 10:55:11] Ugly_Old_Goat : l3f: I will be out of my spec position
[2017-02-27 10:55:38] l3f : Haha
[2017-02-27 10:56:00] Farzad : /price
[2017-02-27 10:56:06] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1186.74 (18.67%) Bitfinex : 1183.20 (18.32%) The Woodchipper : 1182.01 (18.20%) itBit : 1184.30 (18.43%) Kraken : 1182.00 (18.20%) GDAX : 1185.65 (18.57%) Last query : 0 Seconds ago.```
[2017-02-27 10:56:29] l3f : Farzad: Use the websocket API to the exchanges so it always returns a realtime quote
[2017-02-27 10:57:25] Farzad : l3f: Thanks for the tip :)
[2017-02-27 11:15:01] l3f : Farzad: the only problem is that all the exchanges have different APIs and it is a pain in the butt
[2017-02-27 11:26:18] SilverKnight : what yall thinking? 1 more dip down before we go up or all bulls have left the pen already?
[2017-02-27 11:26:24] SilverKnight : :P
[2017-02-27 11:26:34] Farzad : /wall
[2017-02-27 11:26:38] trollbot : ``` Combined order book of 4 major exchanges: Asks: 4608 Ƀ (0.00%) Bids: 3330 Ƀ (0.00%) ±$30 deviation from the current price. Last query: 0 Seconds ago.```
[2017-02-27 11:26:55] Farzad : SilverKnight: hard to break 1200
[2017-02-27 11:27:02] SilverKnight : true
[2017-02-27 11:27:27] SilverKnight : thats why im thinking a dip first is more likely at this point
[2017-02-27 11:27:48] Farzad : SilverKnight: yes, it can happen
[2017-02-27 11:28:04] Farzad : but it wont dip that much
[2017-02-27 11:28:18] Farzad : bull is very strong
[2017-02-27 11:31:31] spice : Anyone hedging here?
[2017-02-27 11:36:46] bingbongfly : spice: i'm hedging my cold storage
[2017-02-27 11:36:59] bingbongfly : my short is burning up ;)
[2017-02-27 11:37:25] ytaews : why hedge cold storage? why not just not have it
[2017-02-27 11:38:25] cryptobull : Lol
[2017-02-27 11:39:06] loomdart : Lol
[2017-02-27 11:40:03] cryptobull : Got to hedge it to keep it stable ?
[2017-02-27 11:40:19] ytaews : ppl 4get that
[2017-02-27 11:40:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `DASH7D`: sell 6 @ 0.023434
[2017-02-27 11:40:59] cryptobull : Come on lets see some btc fomo here
[2017-02-27 11:41:09] wurstgelee : yep. lets go, i am loaded
[2017-02-27 11:41:12] wurstgelee : 8)
[2017-02-27 11:41:44] cryptobull : ??
[2017-02-27 11:43:04] rustiv : let's do it bois i'm ready
[2017-02-27 11:59:42] SilverKnight : looks like its gonna dip first to me
[2017-02-27 11:59:56] SilverKnight : maybe 1150s
[2017-02-27 11:59:58] cryptobull : btc-e about toi take the lead
[2017-02-27 12:00:04] jigsaw : bollocks
[2017-02-27 12:02:01] SilverKnight : actually first support looks like it comes in at 1165
[2017-02-27 12:02:09] SilverKnight : ish
[2017-02-27 12:02:35] -_- : roger that
[2017-02-27 12:12:19] Farzad : /wall
[2017-02-27 12:12:22] trollbot : ``` Combined order book of 4 major exchanges: Asks: 4546 Ƀ (-1.35%) Bids: 3753 Ƀ (12.70%) ±$30 deviation from the current price. Last query: 2744 Seconds ago.```
[2017-02-27 12:14:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 3150 @ 1179.39
[2017-02-27 12:15:52] -_- : btce and okc usd both caught up
[2017-02-27 12:18:38] wurstgelee : btfd. again. hw boring
[2017-02-27 12:18:42] wurstgelee : *how
[2017-02-27 12:24:38] -_- : here we go
[2017-02-27 12:24:41] -_- : finally a dip not getting bought up
[2017-02-27 12:24:52] ThruTheFloor : ITS HAPPENING!!!!
[2017-02-27 12:24:57] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 175000 @ 1176.96 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:
[2017-02-27 12:24:57] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 2000 @ 1177.07
[2017-02-27 12:25:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 15513 @ 1190.33
[2017-02-27 12:25:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 5000 @ 1194.42
[2017-02-27 12:25:12] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 25000 @ 1175.02
[2017-02-27 12:25:12] REKT : :btc: :soon: :toilet:
[2017-02-27 12:25:49] -_- : lol damn i didnt get my orders in the 1180's fast enough
[2017-02-27 12:25:53] SilverKnight : watch 1165ish for support
[2017-02-27 12:25:53] .. : so that okc q wall got eaten?
[2017-02-27 12:26:09] -_- : ..: over 100k volume so probably
[2017-02-27 12:26:45] rapidtrades : every 10 down...these stupid over levered longs man
[2017-02-27 12:26:54] rapidtrades : theyre just gambling
[2017-02-27 12:27:23] ThruTheFloor : Fine with me
[2017-02-27 12:27:37] SilverKnight : aaand demand finds its merry little way back into the market place already...
[2017-02-27 12:27:47] SilverKnight : ....
[2017-02-27 12:28:16] SilverKnight : > 1165 keeps supporting
[2017-02-27 12:28:36] ThruTheFloor : Why'd we stop?
[2017-02-27 12:28:49] ThruTheFloor : DIE! BITCOIN DIE!
[2017-02-27 12:28:50] SilverKnight : demand
[2017-02-27 12:28:57] ThruTheFloor : That's no fun :(
[2017-02-27 12:29:00] SilverKnight : they keep buying in at 1165
[2017-02-27 12:29:02] SilverKnight : ish
[2017-02-27 12:29:15] wurstgelee : what a nice little round of btfd that was. again. thanks
[2017-02-27 12:29:26] wurstgelee : (i may live to regret these words soon)
[2017-02-27 12:29:43] ThruTheFloor : wurstgelee: That knife may cut you one day soon
[2017-02-27 12:29:50] ThruTheFloor : (or not idk)
[2017-02-27 12:31:00] wurstgelee : ThruTheFloor: one day, sure. but until then it will have worked 10x
[2017-02-27 12:31:03] wurstgelee : so i am good
[2017-02-27 12:31:10] wurstgelee : (it already worked at least 10 times)
[2017-02-27 12:31:35] ThruTheFloor : You can do something 100 times, but the 101st...
[2017-02-27 12:31:47] rapidtrades : only reason it works is cos this stupid exchanges allows for 100/1 and isolated margin
[2017-02-27 12:31:59] rapidtrades : ur not god gift's to trading
[2017-02-27 12:32:12] arbitrage101 : my mom said i am god's gift
[2017-02-27 12:32:17] SilverKnight : im thinking we are gonna test the demand zone again
[2017-02-27 12:32:18] ThruTheFloor : rapidtrades: So why not take advantage?
[2017-02-27 12:32:24] rapidtrades : any of those 3 should've killed all lvered longs
[2017-02-27 12:32:26] SilverKnight : lets see what happens...
[2017-02-27 12:32:38] SilverKnight : will whoever has been buying, keep absorbing?
[2017-02-27 12:32:43] SilverKnight : or will they cut and run...
[2017-02-27 12:32:44] rapidtrades : 3 crashes*
[2017-02-27 12:32:46] loomdart : lol
[2017-02-27 12:32:48] arbitrage101 : only p ussy trade at 1x leverage
[2017-02-27 12:32:53] arbitrage101 : grow some balllz
[2017-02-27 12:32:53] loomdart : you guys
[2017-02-27 12:33:21] arbitrage101 : 100x leverage == superman
[2017-02-27 12:33:23] rapidtrades : try doing this shit on a normal exchange , the r/r is terrible
[2017-02-27 12:33:42] rapidtrades : scalping 5-10 move up for 100-300 kinfes risk down
[2017-02-27 12:34:04] rapidtrades : u need to do right 10-30 times to make it work
[2017-02-27 12:34:15] Tetsuo : ^
[2017-02-27 12:35:13] wotan : so pockets from weak hands filled time for more legs up
[2017-02-27 12:36:25] heheh lo : moving stashes into eth lol
[2017-02-27 12:36:56] -_- : little ETH fomo and it could be at 0.0145
[2017-02-27 12:37:21] heheh lo : -_-: btc holds some uncertainty whereas eth is clear
[2017-02-27 12:37:23] yungyang : Niggas been building ETH positions for weeks
[2017-02-27 12:37:35] yungyang : really nigga
[2017-02-27 12:37:39] arbitrage101 : eth is for loser
[2017-02-27 12:37:40] wotan : eth looks good right now agree
[2017-02-27 12:37:43] arbitrage101 : zcash is for winner
[2017-02-27 12:37:57] heheh lo : arbitrage101: u're comparing coal with oil
[2017-02-27 12:38:10] -_- : my ETH chart http://i.imgur.com/CfckZAg.png
[2017-02-27 12:38:42] arbitrage101 : heheh lo: right, eth is coal or oil, zcash is cold fusion
[2017-02-27 12:39:32] heheh lo : arbitrage101: see u in 0.014
[2017-02-27 12:40:27] arbitrage101 : heheh lo: sure, see you in 0.014 when bitcoin is at 1000000000
[2017-02-27 12:40:47] SilverKnight : hmm... that was low up volume...
[2017-02-27 12:40:57] heheh lo : arbitrage101: i see that you're one of those moodkids lol
[2017-02-27 12:41:17] arbitrage101 : i am moonguy
[2017-02-27 12:41:19] wotan : SilverKnight: agree
[2017-02-27 12:41:19] arbitrage101 : not moonkid
[2017-02-27 12:41:23] arbitrage101 : rapid is moonkid
[2017-02-27 12:41:27] arbitrage101 : with short
[2017-02-27 12:41:42] -_- : lol
[2017-02-27 12:44:04] SilverKnight : and here we go...
[2017-02-27 12:44:13] arbitrage101 : buy da dip
[2017-02-27 12:44:16] arbitrage101 : work everytime
[2017-02-27 12:44:51] wurstgelee : :D
[2017-02-27 12:49:39] SilverKnight : nope same shit... :D haha
[2017-02-27 12:55:34] wurstgelee : [13:31] rapidtrades: only reason it works is cos this stupid exchanges allows for 100/1 and isolated margin ur not god gift's to trading <-- exactly
[2017-02-27 12:55:42] wurstgelee : work with the conditions and environment u have.
[2017-02-27 12:55:54] wurstgelee : not 100x tho
[2017-02-27 12:58:14] spice : How do you know where the dips bottom is?
[2017-02-27 12:58:54] Ahhere : spice: you just know
[2017-02-27 12:59:02] jigsaw : you need the deep bottom indicator
[2017-02-27 12:59:35] Ahhere : Oh yes dbi essential
[2017-02-27 12:59:36] ThatCEOGuy : wurstgelee: rapid is right though, that sounds like an awful strategy. Just throwing a bunch of 100x yolos against the wall getting liq-ed over and over again hoping one of them catches
[2017-02-27 12:59:56] wurstgelee : lol no, thats not what i do
[2017-02-27 12:59:59] wurstgelee : not at all
[2017-02-27 13:00:25] ThatCEOGuy : Did not say you did, but that's what we were discussing
[2017-02-27 13:00:34] wurstgelee : k ;)
[2017-02-27 13:00:39] ThatCEOGuy : ....
[2017-02-27 13:00:42] Ugly_Old_Goat : Apparently full nodes will likely pass segwit without miners support https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQ4MSBh0zGE
[2017-02-27 13:01:21] wurstgelee : so how would 95% of all mined block signal segwit without the miners? oO
[2017-02-27 13:02:04] rapidtrades : im guesing u just need the core wallet to be a node, dont have to mine
[2017-02-27 13:02:22] rapidtrades : shouldn't it go by hash tho? so they have more power
[2017-02-27 13:02:49] rapidtrades : or i it 1 node=1 vote?
[2017-02-27 13:03:15] zaico : can the future XBT be lower than the original XBT?
[2017-02-27 13:04:13] wurstgelee : rapidtrades: yeah true, but segwit activation is defined by 95% of blocks in last x (1000?) blocks mined
[2017-02-27 13:04:22] wurstgelee : so no segwit without miners
[2017-02-27 13:04:30] wurstgelee : no matter how many % of nodes signal segwit
[2017-02-27 13:04:44] rapidtrades : that makes sense
[2017-02-27 13:05:29] wurstgelee : otherwise u could just spin up a few k nodes via amacon aws or similar to activate sgwit
[2017-02-27 13:05:34] wurstgelee : *amazon
[2017-02-27 13:05:58] rapidtrades : http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-27/goldman-downgrades-tesla-sell-185-price-target-cash-and-execution-risk
[2017-02-27 13:16:06] rapidtrades : ETF odds back to pre-hype levels
[2017-02-27 13:18:31] -_- : some n00bs shorting COIN i see
[2017-02-27 13:19:30] -_- : unconfirmed transactions went from 4,000 yesterday to 19,000 today
[2017-02-27 13:19:41] -_- : always got that weekday demand
[2017-02-27 13:19:53] -_- : i would think more people would use btc on the weekends
[2017-02-27 13:26:18] Tetsuo : for what, ordering pizza to pay a 1$ fee? or what´s the fee right now?
[2017-02-27 13:27:00] Tetsuo : i am using BTC since early 2012 and have never used it beside blackmarket or trading
[2017-02-27 13:28:40] GTmann : btc is great when you need a temp service and can avoid registration and cc/paypal
[2017-02-27 13:29:34] GTmann : like when i needed access to some pdf site, np btc , un/pw emailed, no fuss no muss
[2017-02-27 13:30:33] GTmann : but agree, btc is not even close to mainstream, 5 years away min
[2017-02-27 13:40:27] degen : why do my orders keep canceling???? I set 4 stops, 1 got hit, but the other 3 are gone.
[2017-02-27 13:40:32] laisee : I use btc every week to send money, pay for stuff and top up mobile phone. maybe I am the only one .... ;-/
[2017-02-27 13:43:54] Tetsuo : what´s the advantage over other payment methods`?
[2017-02-27 13:44:11] Tetsuo : beside huge price volatility
[2017-02-27 13:44:34] GTmann : you dont need a counterparty
[2017-02-27 13:45:02] Tetsuo : how do you cash out in USD then if you need em?
[2017-02-27 13:45:03] jigsaw : shit ater that dialogue I am going to short the shit out of bitcoin
[2017-02-27 13:45:46] Tetsuo : i remember 3 years ago, evryone said, oh BTC is for the poor people in africa and microtransactiosn, now they would get ripped off by fees additional to the huge volatility
[2017-02-27 13:46:38] rustiv : degen: don't know where I read that but I think you can only have 1 stop per position
[2017-02-27 13:46:46] GTmann : Tetsuo: im not, i tend to use it, but on the occassion ive cashed, it was through coinbase
[2017-02-27 13:47:36] GTmann : not sure id agree with poor people in africa use case
[2017-02-27 13:47:59] GTmann : if you need clean water, btc is not per se best use case
[2017-02-27 13:49:33] laisee : its a good, not great, payment system. btc needs killer app to really take off.
[2017-02-27 13:50:13] laisee : kinda like internet before napster. no real reason for ppl to use btc now.
[2017-02-27 14:06:03] Ahhere : laisee: I saved money in btc. Found it useful ++
[2017-02-27 14:07:13] laisee : its useful, true. but 3 years ago I thought it would change the world. now its bigger, but not better, than many other cryptos.
[2017-02-27 14:08:21] elmorte : laisee: where do you buy credit with btc?
[2017-02-27 14:08:25] Ahhere : They say people overestimate the changes in decades but underestimate changes over years. I guess that's wrong in ur case.
[2017-02-27 14:08:49] elmorte : last time I checked coinbox.biz, they charged 30% premium
[2017-02-27 14:09:49] laisee : I use coins.ph, bitrefill
[2017-02-27 14:11:55] elmorte : nice, cheers @laisee
[2017-02-27 14:12:16] laisee : no worries.
[2017-02-27 14:13:25] elmorte : Still about 15-20% markup :( You don't mind?
[2017-02-27 14:13:50] mtourig3 : Ahhere: i dont think thats the saying, its people overestimate short-term but underestimate long-term
[2017-02-27 14:14:16] mtourig3 : kinda like a btc bubble lol
[2017-02-27 14:18:01] laisee : im usually topping up from another country, so its cheaper than being there. ;-)
[2017-02-27 14:18:11] Ahhere : We always overestimate the change that will occur in the next two years and underestimate the change that will occur in the next ten. Don't let yourself be lulled into inaction. Bill Gates Read more at: https://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/b/billgates404193.html @mtourig3
[2017-02-27 14:19:03] mtourig3 : okc fut moving
[2017-02-27 14:19:10] Ahhere : Yep I had it bass ackwards
[2017-02-27 14:20:35] -_- : okc quarterly open contracts went from 925,864 to 576,521
[2017-02-27 14:22:04] mtourig3 : -_-: what does that tel you?
[2017-02-27 14:22:15] -_- : no one wants to short
[2017-02-27 14:22:25] mtourig3 : ahh right
[2017-02-27 14:22:39] mtourig3 : you long?
[2017-02-27 14:23:57] mtourig3 : where can you see open contracts?
[2017-02-27 14:34:02] -_- : for okc quarterly?
[2017-02-27 14:34:24] -_- : https://www.okco in.com/future/market.do?symbol=0&contractFrom=12
[2017-02-27 14:36:26] elmorte : laisee: true :) But you can top up with CC or via online banking as well, and it's 1:1
[2017-02-27 14:37:05] Tetsuo : https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/concern-japans-bitcoin-regulation-worse-bitlicense/
[2017-02-27 14:47:29] cryptokeeper : so who is ready for the correction and re-test. Anybody? Or are we all going long?
[2017-02-27 14:51:17] wurstgelee : are we mooning yet?
[2017-02-27 14:51:24] wurstgelee : nope. gonna lay down again
[2017-02-27 14:51:25] wurstgelee : bbl
[2017-02-27 14:58:10] prueba : hi have some questions about your arbitrage presentation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AT2EQlN7TI&t=263s can someone from the staff help me?
[2017-02-27 14:58:26] BitMEX_Greg : prueba: Hi, what are your questions
[2017-02-27 15:00:14] prueba : first: your XBT Pricing spreadsheet doesn't refresh with lastes info. There must be some error with the .js