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[2017-02-27 04:14:16] BitMEX_John : freundschaft: you can click on the 'Closed Positions' tab at the bottom of the screen
[2017-02-27 04:14:42] BitMEX_John : freundschaft: or there is a complete account trade history here https://www.bitmex.com/app/tradeHistory
[2017-02-27 04:14:46] freundschaft : BitMEX_John: I did that, but I only see one symbol there and not every position I ahve been trading
[2017-02-27 04:14:48] ixess : BitMEX_John: is it possible to add margin to a cross position?
[2017-02-27 04:15:22] Farzad : /wall
[2017-02-27 04:15:28] trollbot : ``` Combined order book of 4 major exchanges: Asks: 4995 Ƀ (0.00%) Bids: 2820 Ƀ (0.00%) * ±$30 deviation from the current price.```
[2017-02-27 04:15:28] freundschaft : BitMEX_John: also on the complete account history I cant group by positions
[2017-02-27 04:15:43] BitMEX_John : ixess: no, cross means that the exchange will use your entire account balance as margin and will find the best way to spread it across all your positions
[2017-02-27 04:15:47] elmorte : rapidtrades: what's the other one? That Zenbook is alright
[2017-02-27 04:16:48] BitMEX_John : freundschaft: if you click on the symbol it will group the trades, but yes after that you will have to manually calculate across the trades to find the total PNL for the position
[2017-02-27 04:17:29] freundschaft : BitMEX_John: ah, got it, would be nice to see that in the future :)
[2017-02-27 04:17:44] BitMEX_John : freundschaft: I will pass on this feature request to the team :)
[2017-02-27 04:17:46] freundschaft : BitMEX_John: id like to see how much I got/lost on each position I was holding
[2017-02-27 04:17:53] freundschaft : BitMEX_John: thanks! have a good night!
[2017-02-27 04:17:59] rapidtrades : elmorte: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01LNOE4GW/
[2017-02-27 04:18:16] rapidtrades : ^ that's almost double the weight tho
[2017-02-27 04:19:18] Farzad : /wall
[2017-02-27 04:19:23] ixess : BitMEX_John: thanks, cross can be a little confusing
[2017-02-27 04:19:24] trollbot : ``` Combined order book of 4 major exchanges: Asks: 5022 Ƀ (0.00%) Bids: 2818 Ƀ (0.00%) * ±$30 deviation from the current price.```
[2017-02-27 04:19:54] BitMEX_John : ixess: have you read through out reference on 'Isolated and Cross Margin'? https://www.bitmex.com/app/isolatedMargin
[2017-02-27 04:20:08] elmorte : Yeah, Lenovo (ex-IBM) is not known for its design
[2017-02-27 04:20:16] elmorte : Sturdy as fck though
[2017-02-27 04:20:30] rapidtrades : that was is all metal
[2017-02-27 04:20:38] rapidtrades : well they both are
[2017-02-27 04:20:39] elmorte : THey're both alright, if you get the Lenovo make sure it's with the SSD
[2017-02-27 04:21:03] elmorte : I have a feeling you'll get more years out of Lenovo
[2017-02-27 04:21:24] elmorte : But for a stop-gap measure,. Asus will do
[2017-02-27 04:21:25] Ashes of hashes : Can some one help me get started out?
[2017-02-27 04:21:38] ixess : BitMEX_John: yeah, i read that a while ago, but its another thing to experience it
[2017-02-27 04:21:55] Farzad : dump incoming
[2017-02-27 04:22:00] Farzad : get ready
[2017-02-27 04:22:10] BitMEX_John : ixess: cool, well we are always here to help so I feel free to ask questions if you have anymore issues
[2017-02-27 04:22:41] rapidtrades : i think lenovo will last more plus its upgradable (ram ssd )
[2017-02-27 04:22:44] BitMEX_John : Ashes of hashes: have you taken a look at our exchange references? https://www.bitmex.com/app/tradingOverview
[2017-02-27 04:22:57] rapidtrades : could easily use it for 4-5 years i think
[2017-02-27 04:23:53] rapidtrades : just the size and weight of it...ugh
[2017-02-27 04:24:11] rapidtrades : maybe i'll get the asus and resell it if it sucks
[2017-02-27 04:25:54] cryptoyolo : what dump dude
[2017-02-27 04:27:21] Ugly_Old_Goat : Good Evening Ladiies
[2017-02-27 04:27:38] Ugly_Old_Goat : Looks like the FOMO has kicked in
[2017-02-27 04:27:59] Ugly_Old_Goat : Nice grinding bull today.
[2017-02-27 04:28:00] carl : BitMEX_John: hey John, I asked earlier and sent an email to support -- how is it that I can have a stop get rejected?
[2017-02-27 04:28:23] mtourig3 : huge buys on okc
[2017-02-27 04:29:14] BitMEX_John : carl: one moment, we had someone looking into what happened, I will chase this up now and get back to you
[2017-02-27 04:29:23] cryptoyolo : fair sized buys really
[2017-02-27 04:30:03] elmorte : rapidtrades: the only thing with Asus is that you're gonna run out of space relatively quickly
[2017-02-27 04:30:54] carl : BitMEX_John: Thank you, appreciate it.
[2017-02-27 04:32:42] cryptoyolo : stops placed, going to bed. today was a nice ride
[2017-02-27 04:35:23] BitMEX_John : carl: is it possible that you had other open orders when you tried to set your stop loss?
[2017-02-27 04:36:44] carl : I had set a close target of about 1150 on my position.
[2017-02-27 04:36:58] carl : *close order
[2017-02-27 04:37:05] carl : and a stop loss of 1170
[2017-02-27 04:39:09] BitMEX_John : carl: thanks for that information, I'm just waiting to hear back from another member of the team and then I will let you know in here when they can send you an email :)
[2017-02-27 04:39:20] carl : I apprecaite your help John, thank you.
[2017-02-27 04:39:56] Tetsuo : Last warning bulls! This will end bad!
[2017-02-27 04:40:57] rapidtrades : elmorte: right...and its not upgradable
[2017-02-27 04:44:03] Farzad : /wall
[2017-02-27 04:44:06] trollbot : ``` Combined order book of 4 major exchanges: Asks: 4794 Ƀ (0.00%) Bids: 2944 Ƀ (0.00%) * ±$30 deviation from the current price.```
[2017-02-27 04:45:10] elmorte : Farzad: maybe the user can pass the deviation parameter?
[2017-02-27 04:46:15] Farzad : elmorte: It is possible, I may implement it in future
[2017-02-27 04:46:49] elmorte : or have a few presets, 5, 10, 30...
[2017-02-27 04:47:40] Farzad : It is not that much meaningful for small numbers
[2017-02-27 04:47:48] BitMEX_Wally : carl: Hi Carl, I have had a look at your account history. You were short 5000 contracts and had an order to buy 5000 contracts at 1141.4. The Stop Market order did not have 'Close on Trigger' checked, so when it triggered it became an additional buy order for another 5000 contracts at Market. Unfortunately you did not have enough margin for this an the order was rejected. I recommend you use 'Close On Trigger' as this will cancel any other orders to ensure the Stop can execute.
[2017-02-27 04:49:47] carl : Ahhhhh
[2017-02-27 04:50:10] carl : Thank you. I must have fat fingered it off.
[2017-02-27 04:50:20] yungyang : carl that is filthy
[2017-02-27 04:50:31] carl : Yep, mistakes have been made
[2017-02-27 04:51:41] Farzad : /wall
[2017-02-27 04:51:47] trollbot : ``` Combined order book of 4 major exchanges: Asks: 4778 Ƀ (0.00%) Bids: 2958 Ƀ (0.00%) * ±$30 deviation from the current price.```
[2017-02-27 04:53:40] Adriana : ETH may go parabolic soon
[2017-02-27 04:54:02] aeos : Adriana: up or downside?
[2017-02-27 04:54:38] Adriana : depends what BTC does
[2017-02-27 04:55:32] aeos : Adriana: do you think they are still directly correlated?
[2017-02-27 04:58:00] Adriana : yep. If BTC goes into a serious correction, ETH most likely will have a bull run
[2017-02-27 05:06:57] rangle : BTC correction? whats that
[2017-02-27 05:08:19] ThruTheFloor : rangle: History
[2017-02-27 05:25:08] Farzad : /price
[2017-02-27 05:25:11] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1183.10 (18.31%) Bitfinex : 1187.10 (18.71%) The Woodchipper : 1185.51 (18.55%) itBit : 1186.28 (18.63%) Kraken : 1180.99 (18.10%) GDAX : 1188.09 (18.81%) ```
[2017-02-27 05:25:38] Farzad : /wall
[2017-02-27 05:25:43] trollbot : ``` Combined order book of 4 major exchanges: Asks: 4797 Ƀ (0.40%) Bids: 2963 Ƀ (0.17%) * ±$30 deviation from the current price.```
[2017-02-27 05:30:48] Farzad : /sentiment
[2017-02-27 05:30:51] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 61.13 / 38.87 Daily : 51.54 / 48.46 Weekly : 47.91 / 52.09 Monthly : 48.11 / 51.89```
[2017-02-27 05:37:20] rapidtrades : SPAM
[2017-02-27 05:37:27] rapidtrades : crash imminent
[2017-02-27 05:37:41] ThruTheFloor : Urgh, it flatlined again
[2017-02-27 05:37:54] ThruTheFloor : Whatever's coming, its probably not happening tonight
[2017-02-27 05:37:58] rapidtrades : thats what u think
[2017-02-27 05:38:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 8000 @ 1217.69
[2017-02-27 05:38:12] ThruTheFloor : lol
[2017-02-27 05:38:28] ThruTheFloor : rapidtrades: It is what I think, do you have a problem with that?
[2017-02-27 05:38:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 31026 @ 1216.56
[2017-02-27 05:39:44] MikeHunt : huge buy wall at 1178 on okc
[2017-02-27 05:39:49] MikeHunt : this aint going down unless that moves imo
[2017-02-27 05:40:13] rapidtrades : okc what
[2017-02-27 05:40:17] MikeHunt : qrt
[2017-02-27 05:40:42] rapidtrades : he'll pull it
[2017-02-27 05:41:37] ThruTheFloor : rapidtrades: This. It's the same thing that happened the last three drops. They're drawing the charts rn
[2017-02-27 05:41:57] MikeHunt : i think we hit 1178 and this lifts off
[2017-02-27 05:42:01] MikeHunt : trapping shorts again
[2017-02-27 05:42:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 5 @ 1213.48
[2017-02-27 05:42:17] ayy_lmao : ^ REKT
[2017-02-27 05:42:23] MikeHunt : the buy wall is $60m+
[2017-02-27 05:42:28] rapidtrades : Mike u about to have ur butt cracked
[2017-02-27 05:42:33] MikeHunt : im not long
[2017-02-27 05:42:42] MikeHunt : we'll see if ur right thou
[2017-02-27 05:43:02] ThruTheFloor : ayy_lmao: Always nice to see whales getting REKt
[2017-02-27 05:43:05] rapidtrades : march already moving
[2017-02-27 05:43:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 9 @ 1182.83
[2017-02-27 05:44:03] MikeHunt : i do find it coincidental this wall is here at the start of the week
[2017-02-27 05:44:06] MikeHunt : ready for pump
[2017-02-27 05:44:11] dodic : whoooa
[2017-02-27 05:44:29] .. : which wall are we looking at? okc q?
[2017-02-27 05:44:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 5400 @ 1202.16
[2017-02-27 05:44:32] REKT : :btc: :soon: :toilet:
[2017-02-27 05:44:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 60000 @ 1199.85 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2017-02-27 05:44:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 92130 @ 1200.05 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2017-02-27 05:44:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 123350 @ 1199.78 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:
[2017-02-27 05:44:35] ThruTheFloor : HERE IT COMESZ
[2017-02-27 05:44:40] ThruTheFloor : ITS HAPPENING
[2017-02-27 05:44:41] ayy_lmao : lol
[2017-02-27 05:45:04] rapidtrades : MikeHunt: did he pull it yet?
[2017-02-27 05:45:30] MikeHunt : nope
[2017-02-27 05:45:42] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 860 @ 1171.21
[2017-02-27 05:46:19] rapidtrades : MikeHunt: so is it being eaten now or what
[2017-02-27 05:47:11] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: still got about another $10 on okc til we hit it
[2017-02-27 05:47:22] rapidtrades : i see 1181
[2017-02-27 05:47:45] rapidtrades : didnt u say 1178
[2017-02-27 05:47:51] MikeHunt : yup
[2017-02-27 05:48:04] rapidtrades : man that was some srs selling
[2017-02-27 05:48:20] mtourig3 : quick dip, back up now
[2017-02-27 05:48:26] rapidtrades : 120k, 20k, 20k
[2017-02-27 05:48:29] rapidtrades : huge blocks
[2017-02-27 05:48:41] rapidtrades : 140k
[2017-02-27 05:48:55] ThruTheFloor : mtourig3: You wish, we heading to 1080 bish
[2017-02-27 05:49:10] rapidtrades : yeah this doesn't feel over
[2017-02-27 05:49:21] ThruTheFloor : Longs getting REKT. Beautiful way to start the week
[2017-02-27 05:49:29] rapidtrades : also etf odds dropping today
[2017-02-27 05:49:49] Tetsuo : rapidtrades: LOOKS BAD MAN
[2017-02-27 05:49:52] MikeHunt : i dont think it will dump until news actually comes in thou
[2017-02-27 05:50:07] rapidtrades : it alrady did once like 3 days ago
[2017-02-27 05:50:23] ThruTheFloor : MikeHunt: Why not? We have time to drop and recover long before news comes out
[2017-02-27 05:50:30] ThruTheFloor : We still got a week and a half bro
[2017-02-27 05:50:32] rapidtrades : and now longs are poorer then they were back then
[2017-02-27 05:50:44] Ugly_Old_Goat : The last dip of February. Hope you covered your shorts
[2017-02-27 05:50:50] MikeHunt : ThruTheFloor: buy wall says no lol
[2017-02-27 05:50:53] rapidtrades : lol @goat
[2017-02-27 05:51:05] rapidtrades : prolly the dumbest person here
[2017-02-27 05:51:15] ThruTheFloor : MikeHunt: Manipulation
[2017-02-27 05:51:30] MikeHunt : yeh and i think it wont stop until ETF fails
[2017-02-27 05:51:34] MikeHunt : then it'll fall like a rock
[2017-02-27 05:51:41] MikeHunt : if ETF passes, it will get even worse
[2017-02-27 05:51:44] .. : big wall works like a magnet, we all want to see it tested
[2017-02-27 05:51:52] rapidtrades : depends what happens in chynoya
[2017-02-27 05:52:13] rapidtrades : if they allow withdrawals this week we will see a spike followed by selloff
[2017-02-27 05:52:14] MikeHunt : ..: if you hit the wall huge buy orders will come in and project this upwards
[2017-02-27 05:52:31] rapidtrades : cos arbers will try to close the gap
[2017-02-27 05:52:35] InvalidUser : http://www.cnbc.com/2014/10/09/bitcoins-bearwhale-and-the-future-of-a-cryptocurrency.html
[2017-02-27 05:52:36] rapidtrades : sell usd buy china
[2017-02-27 05:53:10] rapidtrades : that's IF they allow withdrawals, if not we crash
[2017-02-27 05:53:23] rapidtrades : still not buying the offfical AML version
[2017-02-27 05:53:33] j8 : i bet it's heavily restricted
[2017-02-27 05:54:16] rapidtrades : that would be very negative
[2017-02-27 05:55:00] j8 : yeah wouldn't be good
[2017-02-27 05:55:09] ThruTheFloor : j8: I keep hearing the $50k per year per person and strict KYC, no mention on how foreigners are supposed to get their money out
[2017-02-27 05:55:09] rapidtrades : i've barely left my apartment past 2 weeks cos of the action
[2017-02-27 05:55:19] rapidtrades : and next 2 weeks will be crucial
[2017-02-27 05:55:27] .. : [tm]
[2017-02-27 05:55:28] ThruTheFloor : And profitable
[2017-02-27 05:55:39] MikeHunt : ThruTheFloor: i suspect PBOC said they could keep the money
[2017-02-27 05:56:06] rapidtrades : if they don't allow foreigners to cash out, that was be very bad as well
[2017-02-27 05:56:17] ThruTheFloor : MikeHunt: Shit we're probably gonna dump on the news anyway but if they steal foreigners money that would be huge
[2017-02-27 05:56:43] InvalidUser : The China effect has already happened. The Chinese will be able to sent up to 50k a year out of China. They will also have to submit ID like everyone else has to at an exchange
[2017-02-27 05:56:58] rapidtrades : ^lol newb
[2017-02-27 05:57:12] InvalidUser : Its my second day
[2017-02-27 05:57:22] rapidtrades : u should spend less time on reddit bra
[2017-02-27 05:57:34] InvalidUser : TY for the advice
[2017-02-27 05:57:40] ThruTheFloor : Yes, the Chinese locking everything down and stealing money and bitcoin is already priced in. Nowhere to go but up! <<<permabull logic
[2017-02-27 05:57:55] arbitrage101 : buy da dip
[2017-02-27 05:58:01] rapidtrades : i think everyone is taking the AML story at face value right now
[2017-02-27 05:58:04] arbitrage101 : another chance to get rich and buy lambo
[2017-02-27 05:58:14] rapidtrades : so if it turns out they're not solvent. we crash
[2017-02-27 05:58:49] arbitrage101 : rapidtrades: time to go long, bro
[2017-02-27 05:58:56] ThruTheFloor : Ah the Chinese Triple Gox, what a wonderful way to get ADL'ed
[2017-02-27 05:59:48] MikeHunt : i probably wouldnt buy yet
[2017-02-27 06:00:07] MikeHunt : i expect this to go down a few a more $ and then drift along, hit support and then go up
[2017-02-27 06:00:09] rapidtrades : i wouldn't know where to put my stop if i long here
[2017-02-27 06:00:46] ThruTheFloor : rapidtrades: Why don't you ever answer me? Are you averaging up your short or just holding it?
[2017-02-27 06:01:13] MikeHunt : also between pumps we usually have some red on 1day, aint had none yet
[2017-02-27 06:01:25] rapidtrades : ThruTheFloor: i don't add to losers
[2017-02-27 06:01:41] arbitrage101 : rapidtrades: stop at lambo price
[2017-02-27 06:01:44] rapidtrades : i've increased it slightly due to spending some BTC tho
[2017-02-27 06:01:50] elmorte : If they're not solvent, how exactly do we crash? You can't get BTC out, you can't withdraw yuan (assuming insolvency)... @rapidtrades
[2017-02-27 06:02:10] rapidtrades : loss of confidence
[2017-02-27 06:02:23] elmorte : rapidtrades: who's gonna sell and where?
[2017-02-27 06:02:23] ThruTheFloor : elmorte: Yes because if Chinese exchanges go down, Americans and Europeans cant sell
[2017-02-27 06:02:29] rapidtrades : plus march is died to okc futures and swap is tied to okc spot
[2017-02-27 06:02:40] elmorte : ThruTheFloor: oooh, biting sarcasm
[2017-02-27 06:02:47] MikeHunt : withdrawals dont apply to OKC USD
[2017-02-27 06:02:48] elmorte : why would they sell?
[2017-02-27 06:02:51] MikeHunt : just chinese facing versions
[2017-02-27 06:02:54] ThruTheFloor : elmorte: oooo, painful stupidity
[2017-02-27 06:02:55] .. : maybe all exchanges should be insolvent, would be great for price
[2017-02-27 06:03:02] ThruTheFloor : elmorte: [01:02] rapidtrades: loss of confidence
[2017-02-27 06:04:12] MikeHunt : personally i think 2017 will be the year of gold
[2017-02-27 06:04:22] rapidtrades : LTC would get destroyed if china goes down
[2017-02-27 06:04:46] MikeHunt : BTC has served its purpose, its shown that a digital currency is viable
[2017-02-27 06:04:51] ThruTheFloor : MikeHunt: So buy some gold and get off of my digital turnip baby trading site
[2017-02-27 06:05:01] MikeHunt : ThruTheFloor: already have some ;)
[2017-02-27 06:05:09] elmorte : ThruTheFloor: I had enough of your doomsday shit, why don't you go lock yourself up in your fckin bunker and spare us your BS
[2017-02-27 06:05:20] ThruTheFloor : Then shove it up your ass and post pictures
[2017-02-27 06:05:33] MikeHunt : ThruTheFloor: got too much, wont fit
[2017-02-27 06:05:34] ThruTheFloor : elmorte: What doomsday shit? r-tard
[2017-02-27 06:05:54] rapidtrades : guys don't fight
[2017-02-27 06:06:00] elmorte : spouting depressing nonsense here non stop
[2017-02-27 06:06:08] elmorte : rapidtrades: fck him
[2017-02-27 06:06:11] ThruTheFloor : I haven't said anything remotely doomsday. You're probably thinking of Mike or Invalid you mentally disabled fuk
[2017-02-27 06:06:13] MikeHunt : elmorte: r u bitarded?
[2017-02-27 06:06:21] elmorte : ThruTheFloor: nah, you!
[2017-02-27 06:06:23] rapidtrades : he was a bull before we started going down
[2017-02-27 06:06:33] .. : getting tense here
[2017-02-27 06:06:35] mahouni : going down?
[2017-02-27 06:06:40] elmorte : Yeah, he's also full into govt conspiracies n shit
[2017-02-27 06:06:51] MikeHunt : elmorte: u from mexico?
[2017-02-27 06:06:55] .. : so guys, about 9/11
[2017-02-27 06:07:04] elmorte : MikeHunt: yes
[2017-02-27 06:07:13] ThruTheFloor : elmorte: The only thing I'm doing is discussing the current scenario and plausible outcomes, just because it doesnt match your deluded permabull moon fantasy is not my problem
[2017-02-27 06:07:20] ThruTheFloor : Go kys homo
[2017-02-27 06:07:23] MikeHunt : elmorte: surely government corruption should be 101 for mexicans?
[2017-02-27 06:07:37] ThruTheFloor : ^ This
[2017-02-27 06:07:52] MikeHunt : elmorte: unless u mexican't ? lol
[2017-02-27 06:07:57] elmorte : permabull...heh...we should just replace bull/bear with libtards/trum_ptards and you get the youtube discourse
[2017-02-27 06:08:10] MikeHunt : elmorte: u mad about wall?
[2017-02-27 06:08:24] MikeHunt : elmorte: cant rape and pillage ne more?
[2017-02-27 06:08:29] ThruTheFloor : elmorte: Exactly the same. Bears like conservatives are at least realistic
[2017-02-27 06:08:40] elmorte : MikeHunt: dude if you've been here long enough, you'd know where I'm from
[2017-02-27 06:08:52] elmorte : ThruTheFloor: haaa
[2017-02-27 06:08:53] ThruTheFloor : elmorte: No one cares where you're from
[2017-02-27 06:08:53] MikeHunt : elmorte: u said...mexico?
[2017-02-27 06:09:03] elmorte : MikeHunt: you believe the internet?
[2017-02-27 06:09:16] MikeHunt : elmorte: so ur from north mexico...
[2017-02-27 06:09:17] mahouni : Mike sure as a british person you know how to peddle with kids kind of corruption ;)
[2017-02-27 06:09:19] .. : lets break that 1178 wall, let the mexican pay for it! short,short
[2017-02-27 06:09:22] ThruTheFloor : elmorte: Just care about the stupid bullshit spewing out of your filthy mexican mouth
[2017-02-27 06:09:37] elmorte : ThruTheFloor: >[14:06] MikeHunt: elmorte: u from mexico?
[2017-02-27 06:09:38] MikeHunt : mahouni: thats entirely reserved for our elite
[2017-02-27 06:09:49] rapidtrades : ThruTheFloor: take it easy bro
[2017-02-27 06:09:56] elmorte : rapidtrades: nah, let him...
[2017-02-27 06:10:05] ThruTheFloor : rapidtrades: He started it...
[2017-02-27 06:10:07] elmorte : He's a tard, let him prove it
[2017-02-27 06:10:25] MikeHunt : let these two fight, got nothing else to do
[2017-02-27 06:10:46] javierstone : the night trollbox turned into a saloon
[2017-02-27 06:11:01] mahouni : :D LET THE BOTTLES FLY!
[2017-02-27 06:11:33] arbitrage101 : well, i buy some on the dip
[2017-02-27 06:11:39] arbitrage101 : should be glad
[2017-02-27 06:11:47] .. : always fun a trollbox fight, whats next topic, scaling debate?
[2017-02-27 06:11:59] javierstone : jerusalem
[2017-02-27 06:12:11] InvalidUser : ..: lol good one
[2017-02-27 06:12:15] ThruTheFloor : ..: No, this is clearly a political debate and tech shilling forum
[2017-02-27 06:12:37] javierstone : things mikehunt dad says forum
[2017-02-27 06:12:55] MikeHunt : javierstone: lol wuut?
[2017-02-27 06:13:38] javierstone : ur like a weird lil midget clone of things your baby boomer dad says
[2017-02-27 06:14:02] MikeHunt : javierstone: no?
[2017-02-27 06:14:07] javierstone : yes
[2017-02-27 06:14:07] .. : shiiiiii
[2017-02-27 06:14:30] MikeHunt : javierstone: u need to see dr lexus... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFfTludf0SU&t=25s
[2017-02-27 06:21:11] arbitrage101 : bot has been running for almost a day
[2017-02-27 06:21:15] arbitrage101 : 0 volume lol
[2017-02-27 06:24:37] elmorte : arbitrage101: your bot?
[2017-02-27 06:24:59] arbitrage101 : modified version of MM bot from bitmex
[2017-02-27 06:25:26] arbitrage101 : guess the dump wasnt volatile enough
[2017-02-27 06:25:30] arbitrage101 : or rally
[2017-02-27 06:26:06] elmorte : ah nice, at least you got it to work
[2017-02-27 06:26:17] elmorte : hosting on your computer or on a server?
[2017-02-27 06:26:31] arbitrage101 : this laptop lol
[2017-02-27 06:26:38] elmorte : :)
[2017-02-27 06:27:20] arbitrage101 : the new os from windows is really shitty
[2017-02-27 06:27:35] arbitrage101 : this old laptop run faster than my new dell
[2017-02-27 06:27:38] arbitrage101 : core i5
[2017-02-27 06:28:16] Rado : arbitrage101: ur problem is that you are still using Windows
[2017-02-27 06:28:20] elmorte : how old is the dell? Win10 does all sorts of updates in the beginning which bogs it down
[2017-02-27 06:28:38] elmorte : Rado: :p some of us still have 'office' jobs
[2017-02-27 06:29:20] Rado : You can do everything on a MAC
[2017-02-27 06:29:31] elmorte : oh, I thought you meant linux
[2017-02-27 06:30:08] arbitrage101 : mac too expensive
[2017-02-27 06:30:17] Rado : why the huge volume an hour ago?
[2017-02-27 06:30:24] ThruTheFloor : arbitrage101: Hackintosh
[2017-02-27 06:30:39] Rado : arbitrage101: I bought a refurbished one from Apple website
[2017-02-27 06:30:44] Rado : saved $350
[2017-02-27 06:31:11] elmorte : You can get a i7 for $350 where arb is from
[2017-02-27 06:31:31] elmorte : and add another $200 for SSD
[2017-02-27 06:32:55] arbitrage101 : elmorte: have link?
[2017-02-27 06:34:08] zanza : Intel is old tech
[2017-02-27 06:34:21] zanza : AMD Ryzen best
[2017-02-27 06:34:36] InvalidUser : The new AMD stuff is out in a few days
[2017-02-27 06:34:52] ThruTheFloor : zanza: @InvalidUser gtfo AMD shills
[2017-02-27 06:35:17] InvalidUser : ThruTheFloor: Ok then,, I guess you like Intel
[2017-02-27 06:35:44] ThruTheFloor : InvalidUser: I'm not Indian, or poor, so that's my only option.
[2017-02-27 06:36:49] elmorte : arbitrage101: just lazada laptop i7
[2017-02-27 06:36:57] elmorte : Otherwise, low yat is your friend
[2017-02-27 06:37:04] arbitrage101 : ok
[2017-02-27 06:37:21] elmorte : http://www.hardwarezone.com.my/priceLists
[2017-02-27 06:39:01] elmorte : ThruTheFloor: sorry about the name calling
[2017-02-27 06:40:31] ThruTheFloor : elmorte: I'm sorry too, got a bit carried away
[2017-02-27 06:40:49] elmorte : :thumbsup: It happens
[2017-02-27 06:41:01] ThruTheFloor : :D
[2017-02-27 06:41:47] InvalidUser : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZ9dtZ8lYww
[2017-02-27 06:45:17] InvalidUser : Chicken on Microsoft
[2017-02-27 06:45:43] InvalidUser : ?
[2017-02-27 07:16:35] cookielito : elmorte: pirobo
[2017-02-27 07:17:55] elmorte : que pasa
[2017-02-27 07:28:16] GerryHYH : Hey guys
[2017-02-27 07:28:32] GerryHYH : How do I selection FIX margin instead of Cross margin?
[2017-02-27 07:35:57] BitMEX_John : GerryHYH: you can use the leverage slider in the right hand panel, drag it from cross to your desired leverage
[2017-02-27 07:36:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: sell 30 @ 0.012280
[2017-02-27 07:36:38] BitMEX_John : GerryHYH: you can also click the small 'write' icon next to it to manually type out a levergae
[2017-02-27 07:36:58] GerryHYH : Hmmm, ok
[2017-02-27 07:37:00] GerryHYH : ahhh Ok John
[2017-02-27 07:37:15] GerryHYH : so in cross margin, my DEFAULT leverage is actually 100x for XBT/USD
[2017-02-27 07:37:51] BitMEX_John : GerryHYH: when you have cross margin selected your entire available balance is used as margin
[2017-02-27 07:38:44] BitMEX_John : GerryHYH: you can use the calculator tool to model different scenarios - especially in the 'liquidation price' tab you can see how cross and isolated leverage will effect your liquidation price
[2017-02-27 07:39:56] GerryHYH : Thanks John, very helpful already :) but
[2017-02-27 07:40:06] GerryHYH : what leverage would i be trading under cross margin, 100x I'm guesssing?
[2017-02-27 07:41:22] BitMEX_John : GerryHYH: no it's not 100x, cross is very different because you are putting your entire available balance up as margin
[2017-02-27 07:41:32] BitMEX_John : GerryHYH: it's set dynamically as you buy and sell contracts
[2017-02-27 07:41:47] BitMEX_John : GerryHYH: it also factors in all your positions across different contracts
[2017-02-27 07:42:50] GerryHYH : I see I see, yes I get ya
[2017-02-27 07:44:15] BitMEX_John : GerryHYH: we also have a page here which goes into more detail - https://www.bitmex.com/app/isolatedMargin
[2017-02-27 07:44:16] GerryHYH : let's say I have 1 BTC in BitMEX
[2017-02-27 07:44:24] GerryHYH : ahh ok, I read that first, thanks John
[2017-02-27 07:44:44] BitMEX_John : GerryHYH: no dramas, if you still need more help after that feel free to ask more questions :)
[2017-02-27 07:46:11] Ugly_Old_Goat : Woo! Just out!! Great video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdyIJ-BUPaU
[2017-02-27 07:50:51] rangle : too long, is it worth it?
[2017-02-27 07:52:59] elmorte : yeah, they do a hard fork at the end
[2017-02-27 07:54:08] .. : I switched it off after a while, Ver keeps ranting about "new people" as if all those Core developers joined bitcoin last year lol, and Tone isn't exactly saying the best arguments either
[2017-02-27 07:54:39] longbydefault : goat: i just watched that too
[2017-02-27 07:54:42] longbydefault : goat: what are your thoughts?
[2017-02-27 07:54:58] longbydefault : i think ver won...
[2017-02-27 08:03:45] Ugly_Old_Goat : longbydefault: I thought Tone won on substance, Ver on passion points
[2017-02-27 08:04:33] Ugly_Old_Goat : longbydefault: I am in Acapulco and will be talking with both tomorrow.
[2017-02-27 08:06:43] Ugly_Old_Goat : longbydefault: Personally I believe Roger Ver is very mistaken. I only wish Tone would have nailed him on exactly what is wrong with segwit. Because Ver admits there is nothing wrong with it.
[2017-02-27 08:09:29] Ugly_Old_Goat : longbydefault: Also, Ver is is hardly censored. He is simply left out on one forum no one pays much attention too. That is not censorship. Again, without mentioning a hardfork, bitcoin unlimited, or his desire for large blocks what is wrong with segwit?
[2017-02-27 08:10:18] Ugly_Old_Goat : When nailed Ver admits nothing is wrong with it
[2017-02-27 08:11:38] longbydefault : Ugly_Old_Goat: i think what ver is saying is that segwit is a temporary solution... it doesn't fix the transaction cost issue... anyway... please tell us more when you get back from acapulco
[2017-02-27 08:12:06] longbydefault : Ugly_Old_Goat: i just don't like that ver is 'hated' by many in the forums... he seems like he cares for bitcoin
[2017-02-27 08:12:19] longbydefault : Ugly_Old_Goat: you think a hard fork is inevitable?
[2017-02-27 08:12:59] longbydefault : Ugly_Old_Goat: what is wrong with BU? yeah that wasn't addressed
[2017-02-27 08:14:09] Ugly_Old_Goat : longbydefault: Yes, no argument temporary and proven on testnet and safe
[2017-02-27 08:16:09] Ugly_Old_Goat : Yes, Ver is passionate and passionately mistaken
[2017-02-27 08:16:36] Ugly_Old_Goat : He is not hated, but he his exasperating many
[2017-02-27 08:17:23] Ugly_Old_Goat : No, hardfork not inevitable. There are off chain solutions. I am working on one.
[2017-02-27 08:17:33] longbydefault : why is he mistaken? can you link to an article for my understanding...
[2017-02-27 08:18:09] longbydefault : Ugly_Old_Goat: ok great... off chain solutions... i'm ok with that too... but what if lightning exists but there are 100$ transaction fees?
[2017-02-27 08:20:01] longbydefault : i just want to understand because segwit fanatics often attack ver personally and do not criticise BU as an idea...
[2017-02-27 08:20:29] longbydefault : Ugly_Old_Goat: by the way i already finished, art of execution... thanks for that
[2017-02-27 08:21:09] zanza : Blockstream Core are pretty corrupt
[2017-02-27 08:21:20] zanza : they have threatened miners with POW algorithm change
[2017-02-27 08:21:27] .. : Blockstream != Core
[2017-02-27 08:21:33] zanza : lol ^ ok
[2017-02-27 08:21:41] zanza : Blockstream controls Core
[2017-02-27 08:21:46] jayesh : If HF happens, BU will just be an Altcoin like every other forks that BTC had..
[2017-02-27 08:21:48] zanza : but yes they may be differenct
[2017-02-27 08:22:18] .. : what does "control" even mean, did you ever go to their github or you dont know what github is?
[2017-02-27 08:22:25] zanza : Blockstream is now saying that "mining cartel can't be trusted"
[2017-02-27 08:22:39] zanza : and miners shouldn't control Bitcoin version adoption
[2017-02-27 08:22:47] zanza : because they aren't supporting SegWit now
[2017-02-27 08:22:57] zanza : so now they think it should be "Nodes"
[2017-02-27 08:23:10] zanza : that control software and not miners
[2017-02-27 08:23:26] Farzad : WOW ! dump really happened !?
[2017-02-27 08:23:53] Farzad : $20 dump though
[2017-02-27 08:24:17] zanza : ..: Blockstream wants SegWit at the exclusion of blocksize increase
[2017-02-27 08:24:20] Ugly_Old_Goat : All ttoo complicated to cover here.
[2017-02-27 08:24:27] zanza : Bitcoin fees is really high now and long confirmation lags/delays
[2017-02-27 08:24:34] Farzad : /wall
[2017-02-27 08:24:41] trollbot : ``` Combined order book of 4 major exchanges: Asks: 4859 Ƀ (1.29%) Bids: 3734 Ƀ (26.02%) * ±$30 deviation from the current price.```
[2017-02-27 08:24:47] .. : seems you know a lot about Blockstream
[2017-02-27 08:24:57] zanza : just from their stated position
[2017-02-27 08:25:08] .. : can you link me to that pls ty
[2017-02-27 08:25:32] Ugly_Old_Goat : But segwit should passe and I think will pass, jusst as Winlkles shoulld not pass and will not ;pass
[2017-02-27 08:26:21] .. : almost anyone who opposes segwit is a conspiracy theorist who never looked at github, has no technical experience and no proper arguments
[2017-02-27 08:26:27] .. : "segwit is bad cuz AXA" stfu
[2017-02-27 08:26:38] zanza : ..: you think high fees and slow confirmation time is good ?
[2017-02-27 08:26:51] .. : no, more reason to activate segiwit asap? wtf?
[2017-02-27 08:26:51] zanza : because thats what we have now , full blocks
[2017-02-27 08:26:54] zanza : and skyhigh fees
[2017-02-27 08:27:09] zanza : segwit is only 1.7mb "Effective" blocksize increase
[2017-02-27 08:27:15] longbydefault : segwit does not correct high fees and slow confirmation time... it skirts around the issue
[2017-02-27 08:27:29] zanza : which gives a few months extra at best with bitcoins growth
[2017-02-27 08:27:38] .. : more like 2.1 mb on recent calculations, but yes, nice initial bump and after that safe HF
[2017-02-27 08:27:55] zanza : Blockstream core does not want blocksize increase, simply having 4MB blocks for example
[2017-02-27 08:28:03] .. : Blockstream != Core
[2017-02-27 08:29:43] zanza : SegWit itself technology is OK
[2017-02-27 08:29:44] Ugly_Old_Goat : longbydefault: simplest explaintation is btc is gold. When on godl standard people did not use the gold in commerce it was the standard in commerce. Gold kept banks honest. Bitccoin will keep the offchain solutions honest
[2017-02-27 08:30:01] zanza : Bitcoin is not gold, its a payment system
[2017-02-27 08:30:07] micmix : dumpty is back
[2017-02-27 08:30:11] mahouni : Gold kept bank honest haha
[2017-02-27 08:30:23] mahouni : lol delusions
[2017-02-27 08:30:29] zanza : well, yes gold standard
[2017-02-27 08:30:33] zanza : kept bank honest
[2017-02-27 08:30:44] zanza : well, somewhat
[2017-02-27 08:30:56] zanza : the problem is, people using "Bitcoin is gold" expression now
[2017-02-27 08:31:08] zanza : are people who think it should have high transaction fees, and slow times
[2017-02-27 08:31:08] mahouni : Lol people in power are never honest gold, jellybeans or not, anywhere in world
[2017-02-27 08:31:17] mahouni : Keep reading zerohedge
[2017-02-27 08:31:20] .. : "Segwit is good, but need to block it because Core, Blockstream, AXA, Bildenberg".. great arguments
[2017-02-27 08:31:21] longbydefault : Ugly_Old_Goat: i can accept that scenario... but couldn't we have both? i'm imagining once we have segwit and LN... it would be harder to increase blocksize... since we are just going to be over dependent on off chain solutions
[2017-02-27 08:31:38] longbydefault : but if we do BU first... then we get best of both worlds
[2017-02-27 08:31:59] zanza : ..: Its not that SegWit is bad, its that BLockstream Core wants to cripple bitcoin network
[2017-02-27 08:32:07] zanza : remember HK agreement?
[2017-02-27 08:32:15] .. : great argument again ? wtf, do you read what you say?
[2017-02-27 08:32:16] zanza : SegWit + blocksize increase
[2017-02-27 08:32:49] zanza : Blockstream wants to sell you some tech that isn't even around yet
[2017-02-27 08:33:00] zanza : "Schnorr/LIghtning"
[2017-02-27 08:33:03] Tux26 : longbydefault: exactly
[2017-02-27 08:33:04] .. : if Segwit is good, it should be activated, no matter if Core or my mother made it
[2017-02-27 08:33:24] zanza : the problem is, Blockstream WILL NOT increase blocksize
[2017-02-27 08:33:44] zanza : when the blocks are full
[2017-02-27 08:33:46] .. : how the fuck will they sell an opensource protocol? how will they stop blockchain.infos implementation of thunder?
[2017-02-27 08:33:56] InvalidUser : The blocks are full, the simplest solution is to make the blocks bigger.. Then implement Setwit. There is no reason both can not be done. Also there is not one good reason not to increase the block size
[2017-02-27 08:34:05] zanza : InvalidUser: agreed
[2017-02-27 08:34:17] InvalidUser : Not one person on the planet is asking for 0.5 MB blocks
[2017-02-27 08:34:22] zanza : However Blockstream will not increase blocksize
[2017-02-27 08:34:31] zanza : they WANT the network to be congested and full
[2017-02-27 08:34:32] zanza : and high fees
[2017-02-27 08:34:34] .. : sure, but all his "arguments" are based on idiotic conspiracy theories to block segwit, thats just stupid
[2017-02-27 08:34:38] InvalidUser : Then we will take that choice away from them
[2017-02-27 08:35:13] zanza : ..: what is my conspiracy theory? Is the network not full now?
[2017-02-27 08:35:22] zanza : are the fees not record high?
[2017-02-27 08:35:39] Farzad : /wall
[2017-02-27 08:35:44] zanza : you know Blockstream/Core devs dont see it as a problem at all
[2017-02-27 08:35:44] trollbot : ``` Combined order book of 4 major exchanges: Asks: 4725 Ƀ (-2.76%) Bids: 3411 Ƀ (-8.65%) * ±$30 deviation from the current price.```
[2017-02-27 08:35:46] Ugly_Old_Goat : longbydefault: Yes, possibly both. But BU does not want both. Segwit allows for both if needed. Again, you need to look at how the gold standard operated. Gold was simply the governor to keep banks honest. Just as btc will be the standard to keep off chain solutions honest
[2017-02-27 08:35:57] zanza : they think its good the fees are high, and think the blocks are full becasue "spam"
[2017-02-27 08:36:06] InvalidUser : ..: no one wants to block Segwit.. There are people trying to stop the blocksize from getting bigger
[2017-02-27 08:36:19] .. : zanza seems to be very much against segwit
[2017-02-27 08:36:25] .. : despite saying its "ok"
[2017-02-27 08:36:33] .. : but bad cuz blockstream
[2017-02-27 08:36:46] .. : doesnt make sense? right.
[2017-02-27 08:36:56] zanza : the simplest thing to do now is just increase the blocksize
[2017-02-27 08:37:04] zanza : blocks are full, transactions slow
[2017-02-27 08:37:10] .. : how is a HF more easy than activating segwit?
[2017-02-27 08:37:10] zanza : we can so SegWit also
[2017-02-27 08:37:25] longbydefault : Ugly_Old_Goat: thanks i'll try to read up on it...
[2017-02-27 08:37:27] InvalidUser : One group is saying lets only implement our plan. The other group is saying lets implement all the things
[2017-02-27 08:37:56] .. : other group = Core? right.
[2017-02-27 08:38:09] zanza : ..: here is a question for you. Blockstream is a private company with $80 Million in funding. What is their product?
[2017-02-27 08:38:21] zanza : How are they getting their investors a rerturn ?
[2017-02-27 08:38:26] zanza : whats the busienss plan ?
[2017-02-27 08:38:30] .. : why should I give a fk about that?
[2017-02-27 08:38:43] longbydefault : because it is sketchy...
[2017-02-27 08:38:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 26136 @ 1177.07
[2017-02-27 08:38:54] zanza : You think its just Santa Claus
[2017-02-27 08:38:59] .. : what is sketchy? that from the 100+ core developers a few are also employed by blockstream ?
[2017-02-27 08:38:59] zanza : giving you a nice gift?
[2017-02-27 08:39:25] zanza : Blockstream now is politically controlling the scaling discussion
[2017-02-27 08:39:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 500 @ 1176.36
[2017-02-27 08:39:37] zanza : banning non SegWit from /r/Bitcoi
[2017-02-27 08:39:43] zanza : and bitcointalk.org
[2017-02-27 08:39:46] .. : lol
[2017-02-27 08:39:54] .. : Core = Blockstream = theymos
[2017-02-27 08:39:56] .. : what else ?
[2017-02-27 08:40:20] zanza : Do you disagree that /r/bitcoin banned BU and XT discussiion ?
[2017-02-27 08:40:22] .. : how about you make up arguments and look at the actual solutions/code rather than making connections in your head
[2017-02-27 08:40:26] zanza : is that a conspiracy ?
[2017-02-27 08:40:37] .. : no, thats their moderation policy
[2017-02-27 08:40:54] .. : it is a conspiracy to somehow link that to blockstream
[2017-02-27 08:41:44] zanza : ..: would you be ok with blocksize increase?
[2017-02-27 08:41:53] zanza : max blocksize = 4MB
[2017-02-27 08:41:56] zanza : or something like that
[2017-02-27 08:42:08] .. : yes, I support a safe HF after segwit 100%, if Core will not release it I will make one myself
[2017-02-27 08:42:20] .. : segwit just seems like a nobrainer to do first to me
[2017-02-27 08:42:28] zanza : ok
[2017-02-27 08:42:42] zanza : then I think my opinion is pretty close to you
[2017-02-27 08:42:58] InvalidUser : What ever the blocksize is set to we will run in to the same problem in x amount of time.. It should be unlimited.
[2017-02-27 08:43:04] .. : I also think the majority of Core developers and supporters think the same
[2017-02-27 08:43:18] .. : I dont think we should let 5 mining pool operators decide the size though
[2017-02-27 08:43:21] zanza : ..: Gregory Maxwell doesn't
[2017-02-27 08:43:23] zanza : or Adam Back
[2017-02-27 08:43:26] InvalidUser : BTC was built by Satoshi with an unlimited block size
[2017-02-27 08:43:33] .. : I am very confident they want a HF after segwit too
[2017-02-27 08:43:53] .. : I could find some sources (reddit posts etc) where they state that, but too lazy
[2017-02-27 08:43:59] zanza : there is no Core roadmap for blocksize increase at all
[2017-02-27 08:44:11] InvalidUser : /\
[2017-02-27 08:44:24] zanza : they are basically saying Lighting and 2nd layer solution
[2017-02-27 08:44:29] zanza : is going to solve all the problem
[2017-02-27 08:44:40] .. : true, the idea is "lets see how segwit (= bigger blocksizes) gets handled by the network, then decide how to increase it".. seems safe/scientific
[2017-02-27 08:44:42] InvalidUser : It does not work with there biz plan to increase the block size
[2017-02-27 08:45:05] .. : conspiracy theory, LN = opensource protocol, I dont see how they can earn much from that
[2017-02-27 08:45:11] zanza : ..: I wish that was true, but their current stated position is the fees are fine
[2017-02-27 08:45:15] .. : if they ask money for it, ill just use thunder thats based on LN
[2017-02-27 08:45:20] zanza : they even think fees should be HIGHER
[2017-02-27 08:45:37] .. : you keep saying "they" as if 100 Core developers all think the same, they dont
[2017-02-27 08:45:59] .. : just Luke has an extreme view from time to time that gets portrayed as "Core's opinion".. doenst make it true
[2017-02-27 08:46:14] zanza : I'm leading out Luke, because he wants a blocksize decrease
[2017-02-27 08:46:19] InvalidUser : AXA the largest insurance company in the world did not invest millions into Blockstream for charity..
[2017-02-27 08:46:19] zanza : leaving out *
[2017-02-27 08:46:50] InvalidUser : http://www.coindesk.com/blockstream-55-million-series-a/
[2017-02-27 08:47:09] .. : lol, you must be delusional to think thats somehow an argument for anything
[2017-02-27 08:49:38] zanza : ..: I hope most SegWit supporters have your same viewpoint
[2017-02-27 08:50:26] zanza : and in the future if Blocksize increase is needed it will happen
[2017-02-27 08:50:32] .. : from my perspective I am confident they do