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[2017-02-27 01:14:13] InvalidUser : If the SEC blocks the ETF other country's will make one and a ton of money will pour into that country.
[2017-02-27 01:14:35] yungyang : great point
[2017-02-27 01:14:54] Farzad : where are the arbitragers ?
[2017-02-27 01:15:21] MikeHunt : it will destroy what ever country allows it
[2017-02-27 01:15:30] MikeHunt : hence why i think they'll let it pass
[2017-02-27 01:15:31] InvalidUser : Americans will be blocked from buying it also so they don't have to do KYC on there customers.
[2017-02-27 01:15:56] MikeHunt : if BTC passes, ride to top then buy gold
[2017-02-27 01:16:47] l3f : Hey bitmex, if I had two stop orders but one of them has "close" on it, when it executes will it delete the other stop order?
[2017-02-27 01:18:01] BitMEX_John : l3f: That's correct, it will close all other orders open on that position including stops
[2017-02-27 01:18:38] l3f : BitMEX_John: noted
[2017-02-27 01:21:10] InvalidUser : ??
[2017-02-27 01:22:18] yungyang : BitMEX_John: omg mods
[2017-02-27 01:22:22] yungyang : we've been waiting for you
[2017-02-27 01:22:29] Sultan Pepper : BitMEX_John: how doni work a trailing stop for a long?
[2017-02-27 01:22:30] Farzad : /wall
[2017-02-27 01:22:31] trollbot : ``` BitStamp Wall: Asks: 1188.19 =>[734 Ƀ](-21.75%)<= 1218.45 Bids: 1156.00 =>[377 Ƀ](-2.08%)<= 1186.19```
[2017-02-27 01:22:31] trollbot : ``` BitFinex Wall: Asks: 1193.2 =>[1624 Ƀ](32.9%)<= 1223.7 Bids: 1161.4 =>[870 Ƀ](-3.33%)<= 1191.9```
[2017-02-27 01:22:38] Sultan Pepper : do i*
[2017-02-27 01:22:45] Farzad : WOW
[2017-02-27 01:22:56] Farzad : look at the high wall
[2017-02-27 01:23:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `FCT7D`: sell 2000 @ 0.002396
[2017-02-27 01:23:05] InvalidUser : cookielito: Sry I just saw this,, break out as in the price is going to go up
[2017-02-27 01:23:09] Farzad : -21% -33%
[2017-02-27 01:23:10] BitMEX_John : yungyang: what can I help you with? :)
[2017-02-27 01:23:26] -_- : oh i was gonna ask BitMEX_Sam a question. this site is blocked at a school i work at
[2017-02-27 01:23:29] Sultan Pepper : BitMEX_John: every value i enter makes it a higjer stop and wont let me "sell"
[2017-02-27 01:23:32] -_- : due to peer to peer
[2017-02-27 01:23:55] BitMEX_John : Sultan Pepper: what in particular would you like to know about the trailing stop?
[2017-02-27 01:24:28] Sultan Pepper : I want a sell to trail $10 behind
[2017-02-27 01:24:31] BitMEX_John : Sultan Pepper: have you read through this example? https://www.bitmex.com/app/orderTypeFAQ#Trailing-Stop-Order-Example
[2017-02-27 01:25:11] -_- : lol ltc/btc starts the weekly candle off with a new low
[2017-02-27 01:25:24] BitMEX_John : -_-: I can pass on your question if you like but it sounds like it may be a problem on your network that we might not be able to help with sorry
[2017-02-27 01:25:34] MikeHunt : i expect pumps to start around 8am
[2017-02-27 01:25:39] -_- : what's funny is poloniex isnt blocked
[2017-02-27 01:25:43] Sultan Pepper : BitMEX_John: i have but it wont let me set a sell stop for my long
[2017-02-27 01:25:45] -_- : so it has to due with some key words
[2017-02-27 01:25:55] -_- : but it's no bigger. i just switch off wifi
[2017-02-27 01:26:07] -_- : no biggie
[2017-02-27 01:26:19] j8 : Sultan Pepper: you need a negative trail value
[2017-02-27 01:26:47] Sultan Pepper : BitMEX_John: thats what i thought.... but it won't accept the negative sign @j8
[2017-02-27 01:26:50] -_- : but yeah that's why whales dont pump ltc yet. btce and poloniex and bitfinex have ltc holders dumping ltc for cheap
[2017-02-27 01:27:30] Sultan Pepper : j8: @BitMEX_John oook now it lets me. Whatever. Thank you!
[2017-02-27 01:27:44] j8 : Sultan Pepper: oh, that is weird, it's a UI bug. try using down arrow
[2017-02-27 01:27:57] Sultan Pepper : It let me now...
[2017-02-27 01:28:09] Sultan Pepper : Stupid phone trading probably
[2017-02-27 01:28:27] j8 : if the box is empty it doesn't let me put a -
[2017-02-27 01:28:51] j8 : only if there's a number already and i put it in front
[2017-02-27 01:29:31] BitMEX_John : @j8 @Sultan Pepper sorry about that guys, I will report it to our devs and hoepfully it'll be fixed soon
[2017-02-27 01:29:35] Sultan Pepper : j8: maybe that's what it was! When i tried just now, i added it to a number, but before i was starting blank
[2017-02-27 01:29:50] Sultan Pepper : thank you guys
[2017-02-27 01:31:50] BitMEX_John : Just to confirm - the issue is that you werent able to put in a negative sign without a number in the box?
[2017-02-27 01:32:04] j8 : yep
[2017-02-27 01:32:34] Farzad : /price
[2017-02-27 01:32:39] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1186.86 (-0.16%) Bitfinex : 1191.40 (0.30%) The Woodchipper : 1188.88 (0.31%) itBit : 1190.11 (0.12%) Kraken : 1185.57 (0.64%) GDAX : 1194.03 (0.01%) ```
[2017-02-27 01:33:12] Sultan Pepper : BitMEX_John: yep. Also, just to be careful here, if i move the leverage slider to an "auto-liq" value will it warn me first?
[2017-02-27 01:36:19] BitMEX_John : Sultan Pepper: it will allow you to drag to the point as close as to your liquidation price as possible
[2017-02-27 01:36:55] BitMEX_John : Sultan Pepper: sometimes this may be very close indeed so it is best to use the 'Liquidation Price' tab of the calculator tool to model scenarios before moving the slider
[2017-02-27 01:37:03] Shaman : /wall
[2017-02-27 01:37:04] trollbot : ``` BitStamp Wall: Asks: 1188.80 =>[750 Ƀ](2.18%)<= 1218.85 Bids: 1157.13 =>[354 Ƀ](-6.1%)<= 1187.30```
[2017-02-27 01:37:04] trollbot : ``` BitFinex Wall: Asks: 1192.3 =>[1645 Ƀ](1.29%)<= 1222.8 Bids: 1162.2 =>[917 Ƀ](5.4%)<= 1192.2```
[2017-02-27 01:38:00] picasso : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3uhA4Bf7ck
[2017-02-27 01:38:25] picasso : here we go?
[2017-02-27 01:40:47] MikeHunt : picasso: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHfOF8hF8mA&t=9s
[2017-02-27 01:41:28] Sultan Pepper : BitMEX_John: thanks brother, you're so helpful
[2017-02-27 01:42:11] BitMEX_John : Sultan Pepper: :)
[2017-02-27 01:43:40] InvalidUser : ?
[2017-02-27 01:44:02] Sultan Pepper : InvalidUser: are you cowish?
[2017-02-27 01:44:47] InvalidUser : Sultan Pepper: Very, there is no actual bull Emoji they have an ox and cow
[2017-02-27 01:45:47] Sultan Pepper : ? <-- has horns :/
[2017-02-27 01:46:11] Sultan Pepper : ? <-- ox?
[2017-02-27 01:46:25] Sultan Pepper : InvalidUser:
[2017-02-27 01:47:03] MikeHunt : how u do emojis?
[2017-02-27 01:47:35] InvalidUser : http://emojipedia.org/microsoft/
[2017-02-27 01:47:44] InvalidUser : Let the emoji shit storm begin
[2017-02-27 01:47:56] InvalidUser : Sultan Pepper: Nice I didn't see that one
[2017-02-27 01:51:24] MikeHunt : whats the command?
[2017-02-27 01:51:45] InvalidUser : Copy and past the emoji from the site
[2017-02-27 01:53:28] Sultan Pepper : InvalidUser: im a phonefag most of the time
[2017-02-27 01:53:39] Sultan Pepper : I meant to tag @MikeHunt
[2017-02-27 01:53:53] InvalidUser : Sultan Pepper: Android?
[2017-02-27 01:54:03] Sultan Pepper : InvalidUser: apple
[2017-02-27 01:54:35] j8 : you can use codes for a lot of them like `:thumbsup:` :thumbsup:
[2017-02-27 01:54:41] Sultan Pepper : InvalidUser: i usually bounce between the two each time i get a new phone
[2017-02-27 01:54:52] InvalidUser : emojipedia.org/apple/
[2017-02-27 01:55:09] Sultan Pepper : j8: what's that code look like?
[2017-02-27 01:55:20] j8 : `:``thumbsup``:`
[2017-02-27 01:55:27] j8 : wait
[2017-02-27 01:55:34] j8 : : thumbsup :
[2017-02-27 01:55:39] j8 : without the spaces
[2017-02-27 01:56:17] Sultan Pepper : Oh ok. How do you highlight?
[2017-02-27 01:56:29] MikeHunt : j8: ahh i see, thanks
[2017-02-27 01:56:53] Sultan Pepper : :thumbsup:
[2017-02-27 01:56:57] InvalidUser : U+1F60E
[2017-02-27 01:57:02] Sultan Pepper : :salook:
[2017-02-27 01:57:03] j8 : :sunglasses:
[2017-02-27 01:57:25] Sultan Pepper : no salook... an old favorite of mine
[2017-02-27 01:57:38] InvalidUser : highlight is two **Stars** ** Front and back with no space **
[2017-02-27 01:57:58] Sultan Pepper : Oh! I use italics all the time
[2017-02-27 01:58:15] Sultan Pepper : *that's* **cool**
[2017-02-27 01:58:20] j8 : `code`
[2017-02-27 01:58:33] Sultan Pepper : nope, 2 asterisks is bold
[2017-02-27 01:59:07] InvalidUser : 'code"
[2017-02-27 01:59:09] Sultan Pepper : 'Code'
[2017-02-27 01:59:13] InvalidUser : 'code'
[2017-02-27 01:59:15] j8 : ` not '
[2017-02-27 01:59:17] InvalidUser : ffs
[2017-02-27 01:59:46] Sultan Pepper : i dont think i have that on iphone...
[2017-02-27 02:00:08] InvalidUser : Its not working on pc either
[2017-02-27 02:00:19] InvalidUser : or I am doing it wrong
[2017-02-27 02:00:32] InvalidUser : >buttafuker
[2017-02-27 02:00:40] Sultan Pepper : Read j8s post
[2017-02-27 02:01:20] InvalidUser : ''test''
[2017-02-27 02:01:22] -_- : n00bs
[2017-02-27 02:01:36] InvalidUser : (:
[2017-02-27 02:01:45] Sultan Pepper : `penis`
[2017-02-27 02:02:12] Sultan Pepper : I copied and pasted though... i don't have that symbol
[2017-02-27 02:02:25] Sultan Pepper : i think
[2017-02-27 02:02:37] InvalidUser : I will take things t RUPM likes to sit on for 200
[2017-02-27 02:02:54] Sultan Pepper : Heyoo
[2017-02-27 02:03:00] InvalidUser : (:
[2017-02-27 02:03:26] Sultan Pepper : "His daughter's face!"
[2017-02-27 02:04:13] startChat : `r`
[2017-02-27 02:04:30] InvalidUser : Yup,, Dirty fucker... He doesn't even realize why that might be bad,
[2017-02-27 02:04:50] Sultan Pepper : So glad he's not my leader
[2017-02-27 02:04:58] -_- : DASH peaking its head out. another new recent high
[2017-02-27 02:05:02] InvalidUser : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DP7yf8-Lk80
[2017-02-27 02:05:08] -_- : almost broke the high from a few days ago
[2017-02-27 02:05:21] Sultan Pepper : InvalidUser: oh yeah
[2017-02-27 02:05:28] -_- : sucks i longed dash dip at 0.02 and now it is almost 0.025
[2017-02-27 02:06:38] MikeHunt : dash another shitcoin?
[2017-02-27 02:07:20] InvalidUser : All alts are shit coins
[2017-02-27 02:07:34] InvalidUser : Watch this
[2017-02-27 02:07:35] InvalidUser : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=riIV5bJRJQY
[2017-02-27 02:08:29] InvalidUser : Alts are good to make a bit of money on a pump and GTFO ASAP
[2017-02-27 02:09:15] arbitrage101 : yo
[2017-02-27 02:09:21] InvalidUser : Someone who worked for Dash came out last week and said it was a premined scam.
[2017-02-27 02:09:25] arbitrage101 : what is buttttcoin doing
[2017-02-27 02:09:33] arbitrage101 : InvalidUser: it is
[2017-02-27 02:09:43] arbitrage101 : reason why finex removed the coin from the exchange
[2017-02-27 02:09:54] arbitrage101 : i know cuz i hold it like an idiot before
[2017-02-27 02:11:01] Cryptonary : /wall
[2017-02-27 02:11:02] trollbot : ``` BitStamp Wall: Asks: 1192.00 =>[847 Ƀ](12.93%)<= 1222.00 Bids: 1160.00 =>[364 Ƀ](2.82%)<= 1190.24```
[2017-02-27 02:11:02] trollbot : ``` BitFinex Wall: Asks: 1192.1 =>[1622 Ƀ](-1.4%)<= 1222.1 Bids: 1162.0 =>[1148 Ƀ](25.19%)<= 1192.0```
[2017-02-27 02:11:07] InvalidUser : arbitrage101: https://steemit.com/cryptocurrency/@craig-grant/amanda-b-johnson-leaves-dash-and-reveals-secrets
[2017-02-27 02:11:36] arbitrage101 : InvalidUser: i am holding zcash like an idiot this time
[2017-02-27 02:11:52] arbitrage101 : still waiting for my ledger wallet in french
[2017-02-27 02:12:00] arbitrage101 : france
[2017-02-27 02:18:41] InvalidUser : arbitrage101: Why don't you sell it on here?
[2017-02-27 02:19:03] arbitrage101 : InvalidUser: sell what
[2017-02-27 02:19:27] Sultan Pepper : arbitrage101: his ledger
[2017-02-27 02:19:28] InvalidUser : zcash
[2017-02-27 02:19:38] arbitrage101 : plan to hold for it for 5 years
[2017-02-27 02:19:49] arbitrage101 : unless it goes up 100x in less than 5 years
[2017-02-27 02:19:53] InvalidUser : damn
[2017-02-27 02:20:29] arbitrage101 : most bitcoin traders do not do as well as bitcon horders
[2017-02-27 02:20:52] -_- : xmr is the anon coin of the future
[2017-02-27 02:20:53] Sultan Pepper : arbitrage101: truth
[2017-02-27 02:21:08] Sultan Pepper : -_-: why?
[2017-02-27 02:22:01] freundschaft : hey everybody can I ask a simple question with regards to bitmex.com? I was wondering, when trading with leverage on bitmex, can I actually lose more than my deposit on the exchange? like with cfds? I read through the mechanics of bitmex, and I believe that it if I lose while trading with leverage, auto deleveraging and socialised loss are in place to cover up so bitmex cant actually come forward and ask me to pay more money than what was depositet on my account there, right?
[2017-02-27 02:22:06] -_- : older coin. well distributed. anon is solid and trusted by many.
[2017-02-27 02:22:42] Tetsuo : freundschaft: no, you can´t lose more
[2017-02-27 02:22:44] -_- : freundschaft: correct. you cannot lose more than what you deposit
[2017-02-27 02:23:00] freundschaft : thanks, is that actually written somewhere on the website?
[2017-02-27 02:23:26] freundschaft : a friend of mine was considering jumping onboard trading on bitmex and was concerned cause he read about CFDs where people got into tons of debt because of leveraged trading
[2017-02-27 02:23:41] BitMEX_John : freundschaft: if you are new to the exchange the best place to start is here https://www.bitmex.com/app/tradingOverview
[2017-02-27 02:24:00] BitMEX_Sam : freundschaft: No, you don't become a debtor to BitMEX
[2017-02-27 02:24:11] freundschaft : alright, thanks a lot!
[2017-02-27 02:24:31] BitMEX_Sam : We would have a very difficult time chasing after Bitcoin users with only an email address to go by; not a great business plan :)
[2017-02-27 02:24:32] yungyang : freundschaft: you do become an addict though
[2017-02-27 02:25:14] arbitrage101 : BitMEX_Sam: you can trust us
[2017-02-27 02:25:23] freundschaft : im already hooked :)
[2017-02-27 02:25:40] freundschaft : thanks for the swift reply guys
[2017-02-27 02:25:44] Sultan Pepper : freundschaft: they won't need to chase you down. You'll just keep depositing more
[2017-02-27 02:25:59] arbitrage101 : just give me 1000btc with 100x leverage, there is no way i can lose it all
[2017-02-27 02:27:03] BitMEX_John : freundschaft: welcome and best of luck trading! :)
[2017-02-27 02:27:49] freundschaft : thanks @BitMEX_John
[2017-02-27 02:28:32] arbitrage101 : freundschaft: good luck !
[2017-02-27 02:28:39] arbitrage101 : dont sux as bad as rapidtrades
[2017-02-27 02:28:42] freundschaft : thanks!
[2017-02-27 02:28:59] rapidtrades : arbitrage101: eat my shorts bish
[2017-02-27 02:29:17] arbitrage101 : rapidtrades: sorry, didnt know you are on
[2017-02-27 02:29:25] arbitrage101 : i only talk behind someone back
[2017-02-27 02:29:34] rapidtrades : yeah i thought so
[2017-02-27 02:30:17] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Sam: how about those monthly altcoiins
[2017-02-27 02:32:34] yungyang : rapidtrades: ^^^
[2017-02-27 02:37:47] elmorte : /price
[2017-02-27 02:37:50] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1181.61 (-0.44%) Bitfinex : 1187.70 (-0.31%) The Woodchipper : 1187.00 (-0.16%) itBit : 1185.65 (-0.37%) Kraken : 1180.89 (-0.39%) GDAX : 1190.14 (-0.33%) ```
[2017-02-27 02:38:09] elmorte : bearstamp
[2017-02-27 02:42:23] Tetsuo : Nice pump bulls
[2017-02-27 02:42:49] rapidtrades : Tetsuo: they promised a breakout
[2017-02-27 02:42:56] Tetsuo : Sure
[2017-02-27 02:43:06] rapidtrades : now all i have left is bunch of over-priced virtual tokens
[2017-02-27 02:43:16] Tetsuo : Thats what bullscammers always do
[2017-02-27 02:43:26] rapidtrades : SCAM
[2017-02-27 02:43:31] Tetsuo : +1
[2017-02-27 02:44:35] arbitrage101 : no one force you to play scam game
[2017-02-27 02:44:51] arbitrage101 : it is a game of chicken
[2017-02-27 02:45:04] arbitrage101 : bok bok bok
[2017-02-27 02:48:03] Tetsuo : OK cny support has been removed. Stamp pump bots turned oft since days. Looks Bad.
[2017-02-27 02:48:26] arbitrage101 : bad is good
[2017-02-27 02:48:29] arbitrage101 : buy da dip
[2017-02-27 02:48:41] Tetsuo : Scammer
[2017-02-27 02:48:47] arbitrage101 : bok bok bok
[2017-02-27 02:52:50] rapidtrades : god clearly hates btc
[2017-02-27 02:56:26] InvalidUser : He hates it because it was made by Satan... Come on guys, buy or sell more Satan coin..
[2017-02-27 02:56:41] Adriana : ETH is the future! Sell Bitcoin buy Ethereum
[2017-02-27 02:56:51] arbitrage101 : zcash is the future !
[2017-02-27 02:57:34] arbitrage101 : sell your mom, buy zcash
[2017-02-27 02:57:48] yungyang : zcash dat shit fam
[2017-02-27 02:57:51] yungyang : the good kind
[2017-02-27 02:58:08] yungyang : :rocketshipmoonlandingflag:
[2017-02-27 03:13:12] Cryptonary : /wa;;
[2017-02-27 03:13:15] Cryptonary : /wall
[2017-02-27 03:13:16] trollbot : ``` BitFinex Wall: Asks: 1192.4 =>[1655 Ƀ](2.03%)<= 1222.8 Bids: 1162.0 =>[1039 Ƀ](-9.49%)<= 1192.1```
[2017-02-27 03:13:16] trollbot : ``` BitStamp Wall: Asks: 1188.92 =>[901 Ƀ](6.38%)<= 1219.00 Bids: 1156.41 =>[365 Ƀ](0.27%)<= 1186.57```
[2017-02-27 03:41:18] Jumpy : Anyone know if I'm allowed to refer affiliates to Bitmex if my account is a US account?
[2017-02-27 03:45:04] Rado : Jumpy: there are no US accounts
[2017-02-27 03:47:15] InvalidUser : (;
[2017-02-27 03:55:52] rapidtrades : whats important to run stupid web trading interfaces like this? cpu, ram maybe gpu?
[2017-02-27 03:56:51] jordanbitfort : just cpu
[2017-02-27 03:57:00] elmorte : RAM def makes the most difference for me
[2017-02-27 03:57:07] elmorte : Lack of RAM rather
[2017-02-27 03:57:26] elmorte : Could be a Chrome thing on Win10. Haven't tried Edge
[2017-02-27 03:57:51] yungyang : if you use google brah
[2017-02-27 03:57:53] yungyang : damn
[2017-02-27 03:58:12] rapidtrades : if i have a few of these one like bitmex kraken etc, could it ever hit above 8gb?
[2017-02-27 03:58:23] rapidtrades : yungyang: shut up newb
[2017-02-27 03:58:31] elmorte : rapidtrades: yeah, my 8gb hangs quite often...
[2017-02-27 03:58:36] elmorte : 16gb hasn't yet
[2017-02-27 03:58:50] BitMEX_John : Jumpy: as per the Affiliate ToS the program is not available to US residents https://www.bitmex.com/app/affiliateToS
[2017-02-27 03:59:06] InvalidUser : I have 12 and I am going to upgrade to 16
[2017-02-27 03:59:09] yungyang : rapidtrades: i'm the newb and you're asking about computer specs?
[2017-02-27 03:59:11] yungyang : kk
[2017-02-27 03:59:28] freundschaft : another thing I need to understand if someone can help me
[2017-02-27 03:59:36] freundschaft : what does the ROE actually tell me?
[2017-02-27 03:59:40] freundschaft : is it of any importance?
[2017-02-27 03:59:46] freundschaft : ROE & unrealised PNL?
[2017-02-27 04:00:11] freundschaft : can I actually profit from the ROE/unrealised PNL?
[2017-02-27 04:00:38] BitMEX_John : freundschaft: ROE relates to the margin you have allocated on that position
[2017-02-27 04:00:57] freundschaft : that tells me how far away I am from liquidation?
[2017-02-27 04:01:24] freundschaft : or does it also tell me something else?
[2017-02-27 04:01:43] BitMEX_John : freundschaft: no, ROE is unrelated to liquidation, when you open a position you will have a liquidation price that is the important number to keep an eye on
[2017-02-27 04:01:59] BitMEX_John : freundschaft: you can read more about margin and PNL here https://www.bitmex.com/app/marginTermReference
[2017-02-27 04:02:37] freundschaft : I'm still not sure if I get it
[2017-02-27 04:02:51] freundschaft : if i buy a XBTUSD contract at a price X
[2017-02-27 04:02:56] Bitcoingirl : hey guys
[2017-02-27 04:02:57] rapidtrades : elmorte: wow that sucks
[2017-02-27 04:02:59] freundschaft : and sell at price X+Y
[2017-02-27 04:03:00] Bitcoingirl : so i have 60 btc trying to earn interest
[2017-02-27 04:03:03] Bitcoingirl : but I am actually losing money
[2017-02-27 04:03:09] Bitcoingirl : -1.2351 XBT (-2.57%)
[2017-02-27 04:03:14] freundschaft : is the ROE of the underlying XBT price relevant at all?
[2017-02-27 04:03:24] Bitcoingirl : can someone explain, if i'm just shorting to earn interest at 1x leverage, how can i lose money?
[2017-02-27 04:03:25] elmorte : rapidtrades: yeah...not hang, lag rather...but it's just as frustrating
[2017-02-27 04:03:35] BitMEX_John : freundschaft: the ROE and unrealised PNL is based on the mark price not the last price of the contract
[2017-02-27 04:03:47] freundschaft : yes, thats what I understand
[2017-02-27 04:04:03] freundschaft : but how does the ROW affect my balance then?
[2017-02-27 04:04:10] freundschaft : I'm a little lost here :)
[2017-02-27 04:04:13] rapidtrades : what do u use it for? like do u have 30 tabs open or smth @elmorte
[2017-02-27 04:04:30] elmorte : rapidtrades: more than that
[2017-02-27 04:04:34] BitMEX_John : Bitcoingirl: if you are trading the swap contracts you can only lose margin if the funding goes against you, otherwise at 1x leverage you have locked in your USD value and won't lose in USD terms
[2017-02-27 04:05:10] freundschaft : BitMEX_John: I went through the docs but I'm still not sure I get it
[2017-02-27 04:05:20] freundschaft : BitMEX_John: what is the important thing the ROE tells me?
[2017-02-27 04:05:31] elmorte : Three separate profiles, one personal - two for work. Each with their own gmail open
[2017-02-27 04:05:56] BitMEX_John : freundschaft: ROE is just a percentage term that some traders are interested in, it isn't relevant to all traders
[2017-02-27 04:06:16] BitMEX_John : Unrealised PNL in XBT terms tends to be the more important metric for beginners especially
[2017-02-27 04:06:22] elmorte : That sucks up the most RAM, the gmail interface is a hog
[2017-02-27 04:06:38] freundschaft : BitMEX_John: if the unrealized profit is based on the mark price, which is not relevant for me when I sell/buy contracts, then why is it important for me?
[2017-02-27 04:07:05] freundschaft : BitMEX_John: or to put it differently, how can I actually realize the profits from unrealized profits? is that possible at all?
[2017-02-27 04:07:41] rapidtrades : elmorte: is 12gb enough?
[2017-02-27 04:07:45] BitMEX_John : freundschaft: you are liquidated based on the mark price and also contracts are settled at that price (when you trade futures)
[2017-02-27 04:08:06] BitMEX_John : freundschaft: to actually realise the profits you have to close your position (buy if you are short or sell if you are long)
[2017-02-27 04:08:08] elmorte : rapidtrades: Should be for now
[2017-02-27 04:08:18] elmorte : What's the price difference between 12gb & 16gb?
[2017-02-27 04:08:30] freundschaft : BitMEX_John: alright, liquidation price I understand, but for XBTUSD swaps, which are never settled, the mark price is not relevant for settlement, right?
[2017-02-27 04:09:01] InvalidUser : rapidtrades: You can upgrade it later if you want to, it's easy to do.
[2017-02-27 04:09:09] BitMEX_John : freundschaft: the swaps don't settle that is correct, but funding is paid based on the mark price
[2017-02-27 04:09:44] Farzad : /wall
[2017-02-27 04:09:54] BitMEX_John : freundschaft: you can read more about funding here https://www.bitmex.com/app/swapsGuide#Funding
[2017-02-27 04:10:34] freundschaft : BitMEX_John: ah okay, that I understand, but its a little bit irritating that I always see "unrealized profit" being a positive value, but actually selling my XBTUSD contract might yield losses
[2017-02-27 04:11:01] Farzad : /wall
[2017-02-27 04:11:05] trollbot : ``` Combined order book of 4 major exchanges: Asks: 4623 Ƀ (0.00%) Bids: 2804 Ƀ (0.00%)```
[2017-02-27 04:11:17] freundschaft : BitMEX_John: so if I try to speculate on the contract price, then only the contract price is relevant for me, and I can ignore the "unrealized profits" & ROE values, correct?
[2017-02-27 04:11:24] BitMEX_John : freundschaft: on the flipside there are scenarios where it also may yield gains. To assess your PNL at any price point you can use the calculator tool
[2017-02-27 04:11:51] freundschaft : BitMEX_John: understood, where do I find the calculator tool?
[2017-02-27 04:12:15] BitMEX_John : freundschaft: in that case you could ignore the unrealised PNL and ROE, yes. The calculator tool can be found in the top left corner of the interface
[2017-02-27 04:12:35] BitMEX_John : freundschaft: next to 'Place Order' there is a calculator icon
[2017-02-27 04:12:48] freundschaft : ah got it
[2017-02-27 04:13:12] rapidtrades : elmorte: there's no option for 16gb
[2017-02-27 04:13:26] rapidtrades : im also considering this one https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01M18UZF5/
[2017-02-27 04:13:28] freundschaft : BitMEX_John: another shor tquestion, I can only see the realized PNL of my last closed position it seems, is there a place where I can see the realized PNL of all my positions?
[2017-02-27 04:14:16] BitMEX_John : freundschaft: you can click on the 'Closed Positions' tab at the bottom of the screen
[2017-02-27 04:14:42] BitMEX_John : freundschaft: or there is a complete account trade history here https://www.bitmex.com/app/tradeHistory
[2017-02-27 04:14:46] freundschaft : BitMEX_John: I did that, but I only see one symbol there and not every position I ahve been trading
[2017-02-27 04:14:48] ixess : BitMEX_John: is it possible to add margin to a cross position?
[2017-02-27 04:15:22] Farzad : /wall
[2017-02-27 04:15:28] trollbot : ``` Combined order book of 4 major exchanges: Asks: 4995 Ƀ (0.00%) Bids: 2820 Ƀ (0.00%) * ±$30 deviation from the current price.```
[2017-02-27 04:15:28] freundschaft : BitMEX_John: also on the complete account history I cant group by positions
[2017-02-27 04:15:43] BitMEX_John : ixess: no, cross means that the exchange will use your entire account balance as margin and will find the best way to spread it across all your positions
[2017-02-27 04:15:47] elmorte : rapidtrades: what's the other one? That Zenbook is alright
[2017-02-27 04:16:48] BitMEX_John : freundschaft: if you click on the symbol it will group the trades, but yes after that you will have to manually calculate across the trades to find the total PNL for the position
[2017-02-27 04:17:29] freundschaft : BitMEX_John: ah, got it, would be nice to see that in the future :)
[2017-02-27 04:17:44] BitMEX_John : freundschaft: I will pass on this feature request to the team :)
[2017-02-27 04:17:46] freundschaft : BitMEX_John: id like to see how much I got/lost on each position I was holding
[2017-02-27 04:17:53] freundschaft : BitMEX_John: thanks! have a good night!
[2017-02-27 04:17:59] rapidtrades : elmorte: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01LNOE4GW/
[2017-02-27 04:18:16] rapidtrades : ^ that's almost double the weight tho
[2017-02-27 04:19:18] Farzad : /wall
[2017-02-27 04:19:23] ixess : BitMEX_John: thanks, cross can be a little confusing
[2017-02-27 04:19:24] trollbot : ``` Combined order book of 4 major exchanges: Asks: 5022 Ƀ (0.00%) Bids: 2818 Ƀ (0.00%) * ±$30 deviation from the current price.```
[2017-02-27 04:19:54] BitMEX_John : ixess: have you read through out reference on 'Isolated and Cross Margin'? https://www.bitmex.com/app/isolatedMargin
[2017-02-27 04:20:08] elmorte : Yeah, Lenovo (ex-IBM) is not known for its design
[2017-02-27 04:20:16] elmorte : Sturdy as fck though
[2017-02-27 04:20:30] rapidtrades : that was is all metal
[2017-02-27 04:20:38] rapidtrades : well they both are
[2017-02-27 04:20:39] elmorte : THey're both alright, if you get the Lenovo make sure it's with the SSD
[2017-02-27 04:21:03] elmorte : I have a feeling you'll get more years out of Lenovo
[2017-02-27 04:21:24] elmorte : But for a stop-gap measure,. Asus will do
[2017-02-27 04:21:25] Ashes of hashes : Can some one help me get started out?
[2017-02-27 04:21:38] ixess : BitMEX_John: yeah, i read that a while ago, but its another thing to experience it
[2017-02-27 04:21:55] Farzad : dump incoming
[2017-02-27 04:22:00] Farzad : get ready
[2017-02-27 04:22:10] BitMEX_John : ixess: cool, well we are always here to help so I feel free to ask questions if you have anymore issues
[2017-02-27 04:22:41] rapidtrades : i think lenovo will last more plus its upgradable (ram ssd )
[2017-02-27 04:22:44] BitMEX_John : Ashes of hashes: have you taken a look at our exchange references? https://www.bitmex.com/app/tradingOverview
[2017-02-27 04:22:57] rapidtrades : could easily use it for 4-5 years i think
[2017-02-27 04:23:53] rapidtrades : just the size and weight of it...ugh
[2017-02-27 04:24:11] rapidtrades : maybe i'll get the asus and resell it if it sucks
[2017-02-27 04:25:54] cryptoyolo : what dump dude
[2017-02-27 04:27:21] Ugly_Old_Goat : Good Evening Ladiies
[2017-02-27 04:27:38] Ugly_Old_Goat : Looks like the FOMO has kicked in
[2017-02-27 04:27:59] Ugly_Old_Goat : Nice grinding bull today.
[2017-02-27 04:28:00] carl : BitMEX_John: hey John, I asked earlier and sent an email to support -- how is it that I can have a stop get rejected?
[2017-02-27 04:28:23] mtourig3 : huge buys on okc
[2017-02-27 04:29:14] BitMEX_John : carl: one moment, we had someone looking into what happened, I will chase this up now and get back to you
[2017-02-27 04:29:23] cryptoyolo : fair sized buys really
[2017-02-27 04:30:03] elmorte : rapidtrades: the only thing with Asus is that you're gonna run out of space relatively quickly
[2017-02-27 04:30:54] carl : BitMEX_John: Thank you, appreciate it.
[2017-02-27 04:32:42] cryptoyolo : stops placed, going to bed. today was a nice ride
[2017-02-27 04:35:23] BitMEX_John : carl: is it possible that you had other open orders when you tried to set your stop loss?
[2017-02-27 04:36:44] carl : I had set a close target of about 1150 on my position.
[2017-02-27 04:36:58] carl : *close order
[2017-02-27 04:37:05] carl : and a stop loss of 1170
[2017-02-27 04:39:09] BitMEX_John : carl: thanks for that information, I'm just waiting to hear back from another member of the team and then I will let you know in here when they can send you an email :)
[2017-02-27 04:39:20] carl : I apprecaite your help John, thank you.
[2017-02-27 04:39:56] Tetsuo : Last warning bulls! This will end bad!
[2017-02-27 04:40:57] rapidtrades : elmorte: right...and its not upgradable
[2017-02-27 04:44:03] Farzad : /wall
[2017-02-27 04:44:06] trollbot : ``` Combined order book of 4 major exchanges: Asks: 4794 Ƀ (0.00%) Bids: 2944 Ƀ (0.00%) * ±$30 deviation from the current price.```
[2017-02-27 04:45:10] elmorte : Farzad: maybe the user can pass the deviation parameter?
[2017-02-27 04:46:15] Farzad : elmorte: It is possible, I may implement it in future
[2017-02-27 04:46:49] elmorte : or have a few presets, 5, 10, 30...
[2017-02-27 04:47:40] Farzad : It is not that much meaningful for small numbers
[2017-02-27 04:47:48] BitMEX_Wally : carl: Hi Carl, I have had a look at your account history. You were short 5000 contracts and had an order to buy 5000 contracts at 1141.4. The Stop Market order did not have 'Close on Trigger' checked, so when it triggered it became an additional buy order for another 5000 contracts at Market. Unfortunately you did not have enough margin for this an the order was rejected. I recommend you use 'Close On Trigger' as this will cancel any other orders to ensure the Stop can execute.
[2017-02-27 04:49:47] carl : Ahhhhh
[2017-02-27 04:50:10] carl : Thank you. I must have fat fingered it off.
[2017-02-27 04:50:20] yungyang : carl that is filthy
[2017-02-27 04:50:31] carl : Yep, mistakes have been made
[2017-02-27 04:51:41] Farzad : /wall
[2017-02-27 04:51:47] trollbot : ``` Combined order book of 4 major exchanges: Asks: 4778 Ƀ (0.00%) Bids: 2958 Ƀ (0.00%) * ±$30 deviation from the current price.```
[2017-02-27 04:53:40] Adriana : ETH may go parabolic soon
[2017-02-27 04:54:02] aeos : Adriana: up or downside?
[2017-02-27 04:54:38] Adriana : depends what BTC does
[2017-02-27 04:55:32] aeos : Adriana: do you think they are still directly correlated?
[2017-02-27 04:58:00] Adriana : yep. If BTC goes into a serious correction, ETH most likely will have a bull run
[2017-02-27 05:06:57] rangle : BTC correction? whats that
[2017-02-27 05:08:19] ThruTheFloor : rangle: History
[2017-02-27 05:25:08] Farzad : /price
[2017-02-27 05:25:11] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1183.10 (18.31%) Bitfinex : 1187.10 (18.71%) The Woodchipper : 1185.51 (18.55%) itBit : 1186.28 (18.63%) Kraken : 1180.99 (18.10%) GDAX : 1188.09 (18.81%) ```
[2017-02-27 05:25:38] Farzad : /wall
[2017-02-27 05:25:43] trollbot : ``` Combined order book of 4 major exchanges: Asks: 4797 Ƀ (0.40%) Bids: 2963 Ƀ (0.17%) * ±$30 deviation from the current price.```
[2017-02-27 05:30:48] Farzad : /sentiment
[2017-02-27 05:30:51] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 61.13 / 38.87 Daily : 51.54 / 48.46 Weekly : 47.91 / 52.09 Monthly : 48.11 / 51.89```
[2017-02-27 05:37:20] rapidtrades : SPAM
[2017-02-27 05:37:27] rapidtrades : crash imminent
[2017-02-27 05:37:41] ThruTheFloor : Urgh, it flatlined again
[2017-02-27 05:37:54] ThruTheFloor : Whatever's coming, its probably not happening tonight
[2017-02-27 05:37:58] rapidtrades : thats what u think
[2017-02-27 05:38:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 8000 @ 1217.69
[2017-02-27 05:38:12] ThruTheFloor : lol
[2017-02-27 05:38:28] ThruTheFloor : rapidtrades: It is what I think, do you have a problem with that?
[2017-02-27 05:38:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 31026 @ 1216.56
[2017-02-27 05:39:44] MikeHunt : huge buy wall at 1178 on okc
[2017-02-27 05:39:49] MikeHunt : this aint going down unless that moves imo
[2017-02-27 05:40:13] rapidtrades : okc what
[2017-02-27 05:40:17] MikeHunt : qrt
[2017-02-27 05:40:42] rapidtrades : he'll pull it
[2017-02-27 05:41:37] ThruTheFloor : rapidtrades: This. It's the same thing that happened the last three drops. They're drawing the charts rn
[2017-02-27 05:41:57] MikeHunt : i think we hit 1178 and this lifts off
[2017-02-27 05:42:01] MikeHunt : trapping shorts again
[2017-02-27 05:42:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 5 @ 1213.48
[2017-02-27 05:42:17] ayy_lmao : ^ REKT
[2017-02-27 05:42:23] MikeHunt : the buy wall is $60m+
[2017-02-27 05:42:28] rapidtrades : Mike u about to have ur butt cracked
[2017-02-27 05:42:33] MikeHunt : im not long
[2017-02-27 05:42:42] MikeHunt : we'll see if ur right thou
[2017-02-27 05:43:02] ThruTheFloor : ayy_lmao: Always nice to see whales getting REKt
[2017-02-27 05:43:05] rapidtrades : march already moving
[2017-02-27 05:43:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 9 @ 1182.83
[2017-02-27 05:44:03] MikeHunt : i do find it coincidental this wall is here at the start of the week
[2017-02-27 05:44:06] MikeHunt : ready for pump
[2017-02-27 05:44:11] dodic : whoooa
[2017-02-27 05:44:29] .. : which wall are we looking at? okc q?
[2017-02-27 05:44:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 5400 @ 1202.16
[2017-02-27 05:44:32] REKT : :btc: :soon: :toilet:
[2017-02-27 05:44:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 60000 @ 1199.85 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2017-02-27 05:44:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 92130 @ 1200.05 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2017-02-27 05:44:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 123350 @ 1199.78 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:
[2017-02-27 05:44:35] ThruTheFloor : HERE IT COMESZ
[2017-02-27 05:44:40] ThruTheFloor : ITS HAPPENING
[2017-02-27 05:44:41] ayy_lmao : lol
[2017-02-27 05:45:04] rapidtrades : MikeHunt: did he pull it yet?
[2017-02-27 05:45:30] MikeHunt : nope
[2017-02-27 05:45:42] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 860 @ 1171.21
[2017-02-27 05:46:19] rapidtrades : MikeHunt: so is it being eaten now or what
[2017-02-27 05:47:11] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: still got about another $10 on okc til we hit it
[2017-02-27 05:47:22] rapidtrades : i see 1181
[2017-02-27 05:47:45] rapidtrades : didnt u say 1178
[2017-02-27 05:47:51] MikeHunt : yup
[2017-02-27 05:48:04] rapidtrades : man that was some srs selling
[2017-02-27 05:48:20] mtourig3 : quick dip, back up now
[2017-02-27 05:48:26] rapidtrades : 120k, 20k, 20k
[2017-02-27 05:48:29] rapidtrades : huge blocks
[2017-02-27 05:48:41] rapidtrades : 140k
[2017-02-27 05:48:55] ThruTheFloor : mtourig3: You wish, we heading to 1080 bish
[2017-02-27 05:49:10] rapidtrades : yeah this doesn't feel over
[2017-02-27 05:49:21] ThruTheFloor : Longs getting REKT. Beautiful way to start the week
[2017-02-27 05:49:29] rapidtrades : also etf odds dropping today
[2017-02-27 05:49:49] Tetsuo : rapidtrades: LOOKS BAD MAN
[2017-02-27 05:49:52] MikeHunt : i dont think it will dump until news actually comes in thou
[2017-02-27 05:50:07] rapidtrades : it alrady did once like 3 days ago
[2017-02-27 05:50:23] ThruTheFloor : MikeHunt: Why not? We have time to drop and recover long before news comes out
[2017-02-27 05:50:30] ThruTheFloor : We still got a week and a half bro
[2017-02-27 05:50:32] rapidtrades : and now longs are poorer then they were back then
[2017-02-27 05:50:44] Ugly_Old_Goat : The last dip of February. Hope you covered your shorts
[2017-02-27 05:50:50] MikeHunt : ThruTheFloor: buy wall says no lol
[2017-02-27 05:50:53] rapidtrades : lol @goat
[2017-02-27 05:51:05] rapidtrades : prolly the dumbest person here
[2017-02-27 05:51:15] ThruTheFloor : MikeHunt: Manipulation
[2017-02-27 05:51:30] MikeHunt : yeh and i think it wont stop until ETF fails
[2017-02-27 05:51:34] MikeHunt : then it'll fall like a rock
[2017-02-27 05:51:41] MikeHunt : if ETF passes, it will get even worse
[2017-02-27 05:51:44] .. : big wall works like a magnet, we all want to see it tested
[2017-02-27 05:51:52] rapidtrades : depends what happens in chynoya
[2017-02-27 05:52:13] rapidtrades : if they allow withdrawals this week we will see a spike followed by selloff
[2017-02-27 05:52:14] MikeHunt : ..: if you hit the wall huge buy orders will come in and project this upwards
[2017-02-27 05:52:31] rapidtrades : cos arbers will try to close the gap
[2017-02-27 05:52:35] InvalidUser : http://www.cnbc.com/2014/10/09/bitcoins-bearwhale-and-the-future-of-a-cryptocurrency.html
[2017-02-27 05:52:36] rapidtrades : sell usd buy china
[2017-02-27 05:53:10] rapidtrades : that's IF they allow withdrawals, if not we crash
[2017-02-27 05:53:23] rapidtrades : still not buying the offfical AML version
[2017-02-27 05:53:33] j8 : i bet it's heavily restricted
[2017-02-27 05:54:16] rapidtrades : that would be very negative
[2017-02-27 05:55:00] j8 : yeah wouldn't be good
[2017-02-27 05:55:09] ThruTheFloor : j8: I keep hearing the $50k per year per person and strict KYC, no mention on how foreigners are supposed to get their money out
[2017-02-27 05:55:09] rapidtrades : i've barely left my apartment past 2 weeks cos of the action
[2017-02-27 05:55:19] rapidtrades : and next 2 weeks will be crucial
[2017-02-27 05:55:27] .. : [tm]
[2017-02-27 05:55:28] ThruTheFloor : And profitable
[2017-02-27 05:55:39] MikeHunt : ThruTheFloor: i suspect PBOC said they could keep the money
[2017-02-27 05:56:06] rapidtrades : if they don't allow foreigners to cash out, that was be very bad as well
[2017-02-27 05:56:17] ThruTheFloor : MikeHunt: Shit we're probably gonna dump on the news anyway but if they steal foreigners money that would be huge
[2017-02-27 05:56:43] InvalidUser : The China effect has already happened. The Chinese will be able to sent up to 50k a year out of China. They will also have to submit ID like everyone else has to at an exchange
[2017-02-27 05:56:58] rapidtrades : ^lol newb
[2017-02-27 05:57:12] InvalidUser : Its my second day
[2017-02-27 05:57:22] rapidtrades : u should spend less time on reddit bra
[2017-02-27 05:57:34] InvalidUser : TY for the advice
[2017-02-27 05:57:40] ThruTheFloor : Yes, the Chinese locking everything down and stealing money and bitcoin is already priced in. Nowhere to go but up! <<<permabull logic
[2017-02-27 05:57:55] arbitrage101 : buy da dip
[2017-02-27 05:58:01] rapidtrades : i think everyone is taking the AML story at face value right now
[2017-02-27 05:58:04] arbitrage101 : another chance to get rich and buy lambo
[2017-02-27 05:58:14] rapidtrades : so if it turns out they're not solvent. we crash
[2017-02-27 05:58:49] arbitrage101 : rapidtrades: time to go long, bro
[2017-02-27 05:58:56] ThruTheFloor : Ah the Chinese Triple Gox, what a wonderful way to get ADL'ed
[2017-02-27 05:59:48] MikeHunt : i probably wouldnt buy yet
[2017-02-27 06:00:07] MikeHunt : i expect this to go down a few a more $ and then drift along, hit support and then go up
[2017-02-27 06:00:09] rapidtrades : i wouldn't know where to put my stop if i long here
[2017-02-27 06:00:46] ThruTheFloor : rapidtrades: Why don't you ever answer me? Are you averaging up your short or just holding it?
[2017-02-27 06:01:13] MikeHunt : also between pumps we usually have some red on 1day, aint had none yet
[2017-02-27 06:01:25] rapidtrades : ThruTheFloor: i don't add to losers
[2017-02-27 06:01:41] arbitrage101 : rapidtrades: stop at lambo price
[2017-02-27 06:01:44] rapidtrades : i've increased it slightly due to spending some BTC tho
[2017-02-27 06:01:50] elmorte : If they're not solvent, how exactly do we crash? You can't get BTC out, you can't withdraw yuan (assuming insolvency)... @rapidtrades
[2017-02-27 06:02:10] rapidtrades : loss of confidence
[2017-02-27 06:02:23] elmorte : rapidtrades: who's gonna sell and where?
[2017-02-27 06:02:23] ThruTheFloor : elmorte: Yes because if Chinese exchanges go down, Americans and Europeans cant sell
[2017-02-27 06:02:29] rapidtrades : plus march is died to okc futures and swap is tied to okc spot
[2017-02-27 06:02:40] elmorte : ThruTheFloor: oooh, biting sarcasm
[2017-02-27 06:02:47] MikeHunt : withdrawals dont apply to OKC USD
[2017-02-27 06:02:48] elmorte : why would they sell?
[2017-02-27 06:02:51] MikeHunt : just chinese facing versions
[2017-02-27 06:02:54] ThruTheFloor : elmorte: oooo, painful stupidity
[2017-02-27 06:02:55] .. : maybe all exchanges should be insolvent, would be great for price
[2017-02-27 06:03:02] ThruTheFloor : elmorte: [01:02] rapidtrades: loss of confidence
[2017-02-27 06:04:12] MikeHunt : personally i think 2017 will be the year of gold
[2017-02-27 06:04:22] rapidtrades : LTC would get destroyed if china goes down
[2017-02-27 06:04:46] MikeHunt : BTC has served its purpose, its shown that a digital currency is viable
[2017-02-27 06:04:51] ThruTheFloor : MikeHunt: So buy some gold and get off of my digital turnip baby trading site
[2017-02-27 06:05:01] MikeHunt : ThruTheFloor: already have some ;)
[2017-02-27 06:05:09] elmorte : ThruTheFloor: I had enough of your doomsday shit, why don't you go lock yourself up in your fckin bunker and spare us your BS