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[2017-02-26 17:25:25] wurstgelee : BTCDJS: or u pick one side and set a stop because the reward is more than 50% depending on your leverage
[2017-02-26 17:25:36] wurstgelee : and the risk acordingly smaller
[2017-02-26 17:25:37] rapidtrades : consequently, odds for a severe drop in prices are better then odds for a jump
[2017-02-26 17:25:39] BTCDJS : 50/50 stupid phone
[2017-02-26 17:25:49] wurstgelee : *c
[2017-02-26 17:25:53] Ahhere : :P @BTCDJS
[2017-02-26 17:25:58] wurstgelee : depends on how u want to play this
[2017-02-26 17:26:19] NooBTCrader : /price
[2017-02-26 17:26:23] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1183.23 (0.19%) Bitfinex : 1184.40 (0.07%) The Woodchipper : 1180.00 (0.20%) itBit : 1182.73 (0.12%) Kraken : 1184.42 (0.39%) GDAX : 1184.34 (0.14%) ```
[2017-02-26 17:26:25] wurstgelee : we printed a pretty W on the chart, trend is still intact, i am long
[2017-02-26 17:26:26] rapidtrades : its just idiots longing on leverage as we saw from the cascading margin calls two days ago
[2017-02-26 17:26:28] wurstgelee : simple :)
[2017-02-26 17:26:38] rapidtrades : theres no 'new money' coming in or organic growth
[2017-02-26 17:26:45] rapidtrades : it's just plain old fomo
[2017-02-26 17:26:48] wurstgelee : i am fine with taking old money
[2017-02-26 17:26:50] BTCDJS : wurstgelee: there is manipulation though
[2017-02-26 17:27:04] wurstgelee : BTCDJS: was it any different in bitcoin, ever?
[2017-02-26 17:27:22] rapidtrades : BTCDJS: he's a short-term trader, prolly not very good one
[2017-02-26 17:27:30] MikeHunt : wurstgelee: i think it gets worse as time goes on
[2017-02-26 17:27:32] wurstgelee : yes, i really suck
[2017-02-26 17:27:54] wurstgelee : MikeHunt: well, pboc reduced it for now
[2017-02-26 17:28:03] wurstgelee : now bitlfyer needs fees next
[2017-02-26 17:28:08] MikeHunt : wurstgelee: the chinese moved to other exchanges, they may have made it worse
[2017-02-26 17:28:24] wurstgelee : yes, to bitflyer
[2017-02-26 17:28:40] wurstgelee : but the chop isnt as bad there yet, also no volume faking, at least not in china dimensions
[2017-02-26 17:28:41] MikeHunt : there are quite a few no fee exchanges
[2017-02-26 17:28:43] wurstgelee : so far all fine over there imo
[2017-02-26 17:29:13] wurstgelee : that pboc intervention was a good thing for bitcoin
[2017-02-26 17:29:32] BTCDJS : Growth is slow. FOMO is quick. Rapid has a point. But the data still suggests growth. By that rationale 600s is prolly unlikely though Expect a retrace.
[2017-02-26 17:29:33] wurstgelee : also we needed that bloodbath to move on ;)
[2017-02-26 17:29:38] donsteep : MikeHunt: there are? do they have any real volume too?
[2017-02-26 17:29:52] j8 : yeah, ETF getting denied is the next good thing for bitcoin
[2017-02-26 17:29:59] wurstgelee : yep
[2017-02-26 17:29:59] rapidtrades : +1
[2017-02-26 17:30:07] MikeHunt : donsteep: probably not atm but if china moves again they will
[2017-02-26 17:30:14] MikeHunt : i dont expect japan gov to do anything for time being
[2017-02-26 17:30:17] j8 : then we hardfork and come away stronger, get rid of all those idiots
[2017-02-26 17:30:18] wurstgelee : i wouldnt mind approval though
[2017-02-26 17:30:23] wurstgelee : i am ok with either outcome
[2017-02-26 17:30:59] rapidtrades : j8 i think ur brain damaged
[2017-02-26 17:31:10] wurstgelee : hf is too much. way 2 much
[2017-02-26 17:31:15] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: I'm sure he's being sarcastic
[2017-02-26 17:31:25] rapidtrades : doubtful
[2017-02-26 17:31:28] wurstgelee : no sure
[2017-02-26 17:31:33] wurstgelee : *not
[2017-02-26 17:31:35] j8 : i know how to annoy rapid by now
[2017-02-26 17:31:39] wurstgelee : hahaha
[2017-02-26 17:31:42] wurstgelee : k ;)
[2017-02-26 17:31:44] rapidtrades : j8 u suck
[2017-02-26 17:32:05] wurstgelee : i heard ur mom does
[2017-02-26 17:32:49] MikeHunt : before crashes a double top isnt unusual
[2017-02-26 17:32:53] rapidtrades : only 1 week left for the chinese locked withdrawals
[2017-02-26 17:32:56] Rado : j8: by the way I totally agree
[2017-02-26 17:33:09] Rado : I hate this ETF bs
[2017-02-26 17:33:17] rapidtrades : there will be major panic if one or more of them doesn't allow withdrawals
[2017-02-26 17:33:19] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: and $50k capital control limit on btc withdrawals
[2017-02-26 17:33:34] wurstgelee : lol. did okc quartlies just spike to 1200?
[2017-02-26 17:33:44] wurstgelee : yep
[2017-02-26 17:33:48] MikeHunt : apparently chinese just moved to localbtc to uby
[2017-02-26 17:33:51] MikeHunt : buy
[2017-02-26 17:34:43] rapidtrades : I still don't buy the AML reason
[2017-02-26 17:34:46] rapidtrades : smth stinks here
[2017-02-26 17:34:54] Rado : rapidtrades: after I covered my short I flipped long
[2017-02-26 17:35:03] rapidtrades : don't care
[2017-02-26 17:35:08] Rado : lol
[2017-02-26 17:35:16] Rado : I know
[2017-02-26 17:35:21] -_- : dumping
[2017-02-26 17:35:22] -_- : finex
[2017-02-26 17:35:51] rapidtrades : are u guys that leveraged u have to comment every $5-10 move
[2017-02-26 17:36:07] Rado : Over 1200 things will get jumpy
[2017-02-26 17:36:07] CapitalGains : /price
[2017-02-26 17:36:08] -_- : yeah man
[2017-02-26 17:36:13] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1180.64 (-0.22%) Bitfinex : 1181.80 (-0.22%) The Woodchipper : 1179.33 (-0.06%) itBit : 1182.99 (0.02%) Kraken : 1181.10 (-0.28%) GDAX : 1183.14 (-0.10%) ```
[2017-02-26 17:36:13] -_- : balls to the walls long
[2017-02-26 17:36:33] rapidtrades : Rado: debatable, we already crossed it few day ago
[2017-02-26 17:36:53] BTCDJS : I suggest if you're new don't fall for the hype. Just set a long order in the 850-910 range and be patient.
[2017-02-26 17:37:19] Rado : 4% Margin Used 0.86x Leverage
[2017-02-26 17:37:43] BTCDJS : If the news is positive and bitcoin goes mental. Buy a dip after ATH is broken. On 1D
[2017-02-26 17:37:47] -_- : long now and ride the ETF hype to 1400
[2017-02-26 17:38:08] rapidtrades : good luck with that
[2017-02-26 17:38:18] Rado : BTCDJS: buying dips is nice
[2017-02-26 17:38:39] Rado : but you have to buy the trend sometimes as well
[2017-02-26 17:39:12] BTCDJS : -_-: you're new. Follow my advice
[2017-02-26 17:39:28] Rado : I stopped a couple of times on my shorts and was lucky we got the big dip
[2017-02-26 17:39:29] -_- : and miss out on the greatest pump in BTC history
[2017-02-26 17:39:44] BTCDJS : -_-: oh dear
[2017-02-26 17:39:48] CapitalGains : -_-: that was 2013
[2017-02-26 17:40:00] -_- : $1,000 to $10,000 next month thanks to ETF
[2017-02-26 17:40:03] Rado : long is the way to play for sure
[2017-02-26 17:40:11] rapidtrades : most ppl here never seen a bear market
[2017-02-26 17:40:21] -_- : then down to $4,000 and back up to $8,000
[2017-02-26 17:40:26] wurstgelee : great depression of 2015?
[2017-02-26 17:40:29] -_- : going to be incredible
[2017-02-26 17:40:29] wurstgelee : ;)
[2017-02-26 17:40:41] Rado : rapidtrades: and until we have one no need to be bearish
[2017-02-26 17:40:43] rapidtrades : they think buying the dip workss everytime
[2017-02-26 17:40:50] BTCDJS : -_-: maybe. Maybe not. But don't forget your BTC is still gaining value even if you're not in a position
[2017-02-26 17:41:17] Rado : rapidtrades: it does if you use stops
[2017-02-26 17:41:24] wurstgelee : exactly
[2017-02-26 17:41:42] Ahhere : I think bears getting their periods synchronised
[2017-02-26 17:41:53] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: when the trend is broken dip buying is redundant. But the trend is still in tact
[2017-02-26 17:42:37] BTCDJS : Rado: stops? Have you seen what happened to people using stops these last few days?
[2017-02-26 17:42:40] wurstgelee : wise words DJ S
[2017-02-26 17:42:42] wurstgelee : 8)
[2017-02-26 17:42:55] odieoh : @rapidtrades you were talking about no new money coming into the system. Isn't Japan kind of the new kid in town, with a fair bit of fiat coming in from them?
[2017-02-26 17:43:12] Rado : BTCDJS: what happen is I made 4 BTC
[2017-02-26 17:43:23] j8 : mark price stops aren't bad
[2017-02-26 17:43:27] Rado : I never trade without stops
[2017-02-26 17:43:28] BTCDJS : Rado: you got lucky. Others lost
[2017-02-26 17:43:39] wurstgelee : odieoh: you dont uderstand him yet, facts are not a requirement for his rants
[2017-02-26 17:43:47] j8 : XBTH17 only went 100 dollars down from here
[2017-02-26 17:43:48] BTCDJS : Rado: sure I'm with you. Stops are good.
[2017-02-26 17:44:09] BTCDJS : Not lately here though
[2017-02-26 17:44:27] Rado : BTCDJS: why would the lose if they were long and have a stop where they bought or higher
[2017-02-26 17:44:41] Ahhere : Rado: liquidity and market stops
[2017-02-26 17:45:01] odieoh : If there is no orders on the book at the level they wanted the stop at, it doesn't get filled
[2017-02-26 17:45:06] rapidtrades : there's no safe way to long this market, a dump can come at anytime for any reason
[2017-02-26 17:45:10] Rado : Liquidity is great for most people here
[2017-02-26 17:45:16] rapidtrades : you will be picked off
[2017-02-26 17:45:17] BTCDJS : Rado: true. But some did cos their stops were lower
[2017-02-26 17:45:26] rapidtrades : the R/R just isn't there
[2017-02-26 17:45:37] rapidtrades : if ur long and making money u just got lucky
[2017-02-26 17:45:43] wurstgelee : rapidtrades: if u have roi 100% more than several times during this run, u sure can survive 1 100% hit
[2017-02-26 17:45:45] wurstgelee : or 2
[2017-02-26 17:45:50] Rado : BTCDJS: yes, hard to figure out a good stop
[2017-02-26 17:46:01] Rado : i get stopped very often
[2017-02-26 17:46:15] Ahhere : rapidtrades: why would someone continue longing with all their winnings? its called monay management?
[2017-02-26 17:46:24] jolin : Rado: what your stop? 50usd or so?
[2017-02-26 17:46:33] CapitalGains : Isn't adjusting your margin so that your liquidation price is your stop the safest way to do it?
[2017-02-26 17:46:37] BTCDJS : @rapidtrades TBF if you were long you wouldn't say that
[2017-02-26 17:47:00] wurstgelee : keep ur positiion sizes constant, have 2 100 % roi trades, repeat until trend is broken
[2017-02-26 17:47:04] wurstgelee : every moron can do that
[2017-02-26 17:47:07] Rado : jolin: right now I moved my stop from 1166 to 1180 on xbth17
[2017-02-26 17:47:19] Ahhere : CapitalGains: liquidation will usually cost more than a stop
[2017-02-26 17:47:32] -_- : okc quarterly dumping
[2017-02-26 17:47:33] -_- : down $18
[2017-02-26 17:47:44] jolin : Rado: good pos
[2017-02-26 17:49:19] -_- : hoping for $25-$30 dump soon
[2017-02-26 17:49:20] Rado : Looks like most of the new people stopped posting
[2017-02-26 17:49:43] wurstgelee : haha =)
[2017-02-26 17:50:37] Rado : -_-: 25-30 is a correction
[2017-02-26 17:50:41] Rado : dump is 200
[2017-02-26 17:50:58] wurstgelee : that
[2017-02-26 17:51:09] CBF : wots a new people
[2017-02-26 17:51:19] wurstgelee : !=old people
[2017-02-26 17:51:36] CBF : oo
[2017-02-26 17:51:40] wurstgelee : footy dun?
[2017-02-26 17:51:47] CBF : nope
[2017-02-26 17:51:50] CBF : 2-2
[2017-02-26 17:51:52] wurstgelee : ht?
[2017-02-26 17:51:58] CBF : eatin pizza
[2017-02-26 17:52:02] CBF : noir..
[2017-02-26 17:52:40] CBF : just popped over to catch a knife or 2..
[2017-02-26 17:53:19] wurstgelee : hehe
[2017-02-26 17:53:59] ayy_lmao : lol
[2017-02-26 17:54:11] wurstgelee : there u go
[2017-02-26 17:55:53] Adriana : If Finex crosses 1170 within 5 min it will be a text book, perfectly executed bull trap
[2017-02-26 17:56:59] cryptoyolo : There u have it
[2017-02-26 17:57:53] Papou : i just cant bring myself to long these levels.
[2017-02-26 17:58:05] Papou : 1100+ is just way too much room for profit taking
[2017-02-26 17:58:16] Papou : i mean we can dip to 900 and still be in the bull trend
[2017-02-26 17:58:27] Papou : 800 even
[2017-02-26 17:58:42] ayy_lmao : looks like a double bottom inv h&s to me
[2017-02-26 17:58:47] ayy_lmao : but what do i know papou
[2017-02-26 17:58:51] ayy_lmao : my name is ayy lmao
[2017-02-26 17:58:52] Papou : if uve been long from months ago great but who the hell is starting a long position above 1100
[2017-02-26 17:59:49] jho : COIN_BH17 taking a hit
[2017-02-26 18:00:03] BTCDJS : Newboobie moonkids
[2017-02-26 18:00:21] Apocalyptic : @jho meaningless given the books
[2017-02-26 18:00:32] Apocalyptic : someone just sold dozens of contracts
[2017-02-26 18:01:13] cryptoyolo : I can see the H&S forming
[2017-02-26 18:02:23] ayy_lmao : already bouncing
[2017-02-26 18:02:25] BTCDJS : I see it too
[2017-02-26 18:03:16] wurstgelee : id say textbook dip more than textbook bulltrap
[2017-02-26 18:03:28] InvalidUser : /\
[2017-02-26 18:04:31] CBF : kthnxbye
[2017-02-26 18:04:39] wurstgelee : CBF: l8rs
[2017-02-26 18:09:48] jayesh : wow
[2017-02-26 18:10:32] Rado : I see dead head and shoulders
[2017-02-26 18:10:36] Farzad : BTCDJS: I do not agree, when bitcoin reached $10 from $0.01, a lot of people were saying the same thing
[2017-02-26 18:10:50] Farzad : it can easily go to $10K
[2017-02-26 18:11:04] Rado : Farzad: it will too
[2017-02-26 18:11:06] Farzad : why do u think only noobs go long here ?
[2017-02-26 18:11:13] Rado : just a matter of time
[2017-02-26 18:11:25] Farzad : I am definitely long here
[2017-02-26 18:11:47] CapitalGains : Farzad: On what basis?
[2017-02-26 18:12:03] ayy_lmao : weekly still looks fine for parabolic
[2017-02-26 18:12:24] Rado : CapitalGains: are you short?
[2017-02-26 18:12:33] Farzad : well, if u trade with high leverage, it can be dangerous to go long
[2017-02-26 18:12:47] CapitalGains : Rado: Yes.
[2017-02-26 18:12:48] Farzad : but trading btc is very easy with low leverage
[2017-02-26 18:12:53] Farzad : go long
[2017-02-26 18:12:54] wurstgelee : Farzad: its a question of bankroll management
[2017-02-26 18:13:00] Rado : CapitalGains: on what basis?
[2017-02-26 18:13:02] Farzad : when it goes down, go more long :D
[2017-02-26 18:13:15] Farzad : in long term u win
[2017-02-26 18:13:19] jayesh : Not much money was involved the time when it went to $10
[2017-02-26 18:13:43] ayy_lmao : new weekly candle today
[2017-02-26 18:13:45] Farzad : jayesh: compared to what ? when it reached $10, people will say the same thing
[2017-02-26 18:13:47] ayy_lmao : pretty significant
[2017-02-26 18:13:56] CapitalGains : Rado: On the basis of the liquidation mechanics on Bitmex's H17.
[2017-02-26 18:13:57] Farzad : when it was $1K, not much money was involved
[2017-02-26 18:14:06] Farzad : its all relative
[2017-02-26 18:14:10] wurstgelee : ayy_lmao: we are fine, i ordered a bullish engulfing tweezer for the daily
[2017-02-26 18:14:21] Rado : CapitalGains: huh?
[2017-02-26 18:14:25] Rado : come again
[2017-02-26 18:14:31] ayy_lmao : wurstgelee: +1 just putting things into perspective for people
[2017-02-26 18:14:41] Rado : if you are short you are not making money
[2017-02-26 18:14:43] wurstgelee : ;)
[2017-02-26 18:14:44] Rado : easy as that
[2017-02-26 18:14:46] Farzad : the trend is definitely bullish
[2017-02-26 18:14:50] jayesh : Farzad: You cant double it easily now. you need so much money for doing that.. its not a shit coin that it will go 2x-3x with little money
[2017-02-26 18:15:20] Farzad : jayesh: u can double it or get REKT.
[2017-02-26 18:15:29] Farzad : like casino
[2017-02-26 18:15:42] Farzad : but I am talking about sustained 5%/month
[2017-02-26 18:15:55] jayesh : Farzad: I am not sayig i am bearish. I am bullish too. But it wont go to 10k within short period of time.
[2017-02-26 18:16:01] Farzad : it is unbelievable if u are in financial sector
[2017-02-26 18:16:38] jayesh : Farzad: Not talking about doubling our money. Its about doubling the price..
[2017-02-26 18:16:45] Farzad : jayesh: If ETF gets approved, you may be proven wrong ;)
[2017-02-26 18:17:02] jayesh : Farzad: IF
[2017-02-26 18:17:13] Farzad : well there are many IFs
[2017-02-26 18:17:25] Farzad : cryptos are the future
[2017-02-26 18:17:31] jayesh : i agree
[2017-02-26 18:17:40] Farzad : we are early investors
[2017-02-26 18:18:30] CapitalGains : Rado: basically I've seen the quarterly on Bitmex drop down to $300 due to liquidations, whereas because the collateral is held in BTC, short squeezes don't get quite so out of hand (even though they can be wild).
[2017-02-26 18:19:00] BTCDJS : If bitcoin is going to 10k longers should not FOMO because their holding BTC anyway
[2017-02-26 18:19:36] Farzad : BTCDJS: absolutely, I bought my coins for $10 each
[2017-02-26 18:19:42] Farzad : while it was at its peak !
[2017-02-26 18:19:52] Farzad : in 2010-11
[2017-02-26 18:20:20] cryptoyolo : damn of course u can long it now
[2017-02-26 18:20:22] Farzad : but if u go short, well u will get rekt sooner or later
[2017-02-26 18:21:14] Farzad : I am just saying, going long even here, is not the stupidest thing in the world
[2017-02-26 18:21:55] Farzad : but u should manage your leverage and have a strategy
[2017-02-26 18:22:38] cryptonoob : problem is dumps happen too fast with BTC and it goes up very slowly
[2017-02-26 18:22:55] Apocalyptic : cryptonoob: this is not BTC-specific
[2017-02-26 18:23:04] Apocalyptic : it's like that for almost any asset, like stocks
[2017-02-26 18:23:29] cryptonoob : stocks are regulated though
[2017-02-26 18:23:29] Farzad : cryptonoob: take advantage of the situation
[2017-02-26 18:23:41] Farzad : go long after each dump is over
[2017-02-26 18:23:44] Farzad : u win
[2017-02-26 18:23:56] cryptonoob : catch a falling chainsaw
[2017-02-26 18:23:59] Apocalyptic : cryptonoob: irrelevant for this discussion
[2017-02-26 18:24:00] Farzad : I called long last night after the dump
[2017-02-26 18:24:13] Apocalyptic : regulation doesn't dictate how fast an asset falls
[2017-02-26 18:24:19] Apocalyptic : fear and people selling does
[2017-02-26 18:25:54] cryptonoob : Apocalyptic: SEC created a rule in 2008 to prevent people from short selling massively
[2017-02-26 18:25:56] cryptoyolo : go long, trail stop and gg
[2017-02-26 18:26:10] Farzad : Apocalyptic: also we have stolen coins in BTC dumping in market
[2017-02-26 18:26:19] Farzad : but market will absorb it slowly
[2017-02-26 18:26:44] MikeHunt : this is why i think SEC will not allow ETF is manipulators will have a field day with public investors
[2017-02-26 18:28:04] Farzad : MikeHunt: well, even if it doesnt allow it, we will stand right where we are standing right now
[2017-02-26 18:28:29] carl : So why the fuck did my stop not hit last night? fucking rubbish
[2017-02-26 18:28:33] Farzad : there will be a dump and gaining slowly again
[2017-02-26 18:28:53] Farzad : carl: stops dont work if there is no liquidity
[2017-02-26 18:29:01] carl : So it can just be rejected?
[2017-02-26 18:29:05] carl : That's fucked
[2017-02-26 18:29:34] Farzad : carl: I dont think they get rejected, get executed at market price
[2017-02-26 18:29:42] carl : Says my stop was rejecrted in my order history
[2017-02-26 18:30:00] Farzad : hmmmm
[2017-02-26 18:30:01] carl : Hence why I still have a short position open in the red
[2017-02-26 18:30:12] carl : So that's great
[2017-02-26 18:30:27] carl : Awesome that I can set a stop just for Mex to be like "Hmm, you know what, no."
[2017-02-26 18:30:31] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: buy 150 @ 0.012140
[2017-02-26 18:30:34] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: buy 7 @ 0.012170
[2017-02-26 18:30:37] Farzad : carl: I dont know why a stop can be rejected !
[2017-02-26 18:30:37] wurstgelee : ask support, bitmex_sam or gregg or whoever responds
[2017-02-26 18:30:39] -_- : just fomo bought ETH
[2017-02-26 18:30:41] -_- : huge ass walls
[2017-02-26 18:30:43] wurstgelee : they can tell u what happened and y
[2017-02-26 18:32:01] Sultan Pepper : carl: probably user error
[2017-02-26 18:32:23] carl : Sultan Pepper: uh no
[2017-02-26 18:32:33] Sultan Pepper : Oh you're right
[2017-02-26 18:33:05] carl : @bitmex_sam, @bitmex_greg? can anyone explain why a stop loss would just be outright rejected?
[2017-02-26 18:33:31] Sultan Pepper : Couldn't possibly be you not understanding the functions
[2017-02-26 18:33:33] carl : maybe I didn't have enough margin?
[2017-02-26 18:34:09] Farzad : carl: if it was a stoploss, it should decrease your required margin
[2017-02-26 18:34:17] carl : @farzad exactly
[2017-02-26 18:34:42] Farzad : carl: didnt u place it in the wrong direction ? :D
[2017-02-26 18:34:53] Sultan Pepper : Farzad: uh no
[2017-02-26 18:34:54] carl : @Farzad haha no
[2017-02-26 18:34:55] wurstgelee : thats an option
[2017-02-26 18:34:58] wurstgelee : :D
[2017-02-26 18:35:00] Sultan Pepper : impossible
[2017-02-26 18:35:14] carl : @Sultan Pepper well, I didn't. stop being such a baby
[2017-02-26 18:35:46] Sultan Pepper : i'm ok with my short *and* can accept when I f uck up!
[2017-02-26 18:35:59] Sultan Pepper : not related statements, either
[2017-02-26 18:36:04] Adriana : ETH pump can be a good indicator... well that BTC won't pump tonight
[2017-02-26 18:37:00] carl : i didn't fuck up though that's the annoying part
[2017-02-26 18:37:13] carl : not saying i haven't before but this particular instance...just strange
[2017-02-26 18:37:24] Sultan Pepper : carl: what kind of stop did you use?
[2017-02-26 18:37:32] -_- : hope this ETH news is big
[2017-02-26 18:37:37] -_- : and people continue to buy the rumor
[2017-02-26 18:37:45] carl : market
[2017-02-26 18:37:52] Sultan Pepper : carl: close on what?
[2017-02-26 18:38:05] carl : short from 1165, stop at 1170.
[2017-02-26 18:38:17] Sultan Pepper : but close on what?
[2017-02-26 18:38:18] -_- : and ETH order book is empty
[2017-02-26 18:38:41] Sultan Pepper : close on last? Close on mark?
[2017-02-26 18:38:43] carl : oh, mark.
[2017-02-26 18:39:09] -_- : you can still long ETH. few orders near currente price
[2017-02-26 18:39:20] -_- : 2000 contracts
[2017-02-26 18:39:56] shiroe : what is new on eth?
[2017-02-26 18:41:12] heheh lo : all fomo eth probably
[2017-02-26 18:41:42] MikeHunt : looking at ema200, looks like if ETF fails we go to there
[2017-02-26 18:42:19] BTCDJS : shiroe: Eth pumping because people are still excited about eth regardless of past
[2017-02-26 18:42:30] datboiyuan : -_-: what eth news
[2017-02-26 18:42:34] BTCDJS : MikeHunt: 1D chart?
[2017-02-26 18:42:51] MikeHunt : BTCDJS: yeh
[2017-02-26 18:43:05] MikeHunt : BTCDJS: drops to ema200 on ~jan10 ~feb10
[2017-02-26 18:43:10] MikeHunt : ~mar10 next?
[2017-02-26 18:43:22] BTCDJS : MikeHunt: Add a 100EMA as well as a 50EMA
[2017-02-26 18:43:51] -_- : datboiyuan: enterprise ethereum tuesday. bunch of rich companies pledge their support for ethereum and how they will use it
[2017-02-26 18:44:01] -_- : aka actual demand by rich companies
[2017-02-26 18:44:16] MikeHunt : BTCDJS: done
[2017-02-26 18:44:26] BTCDJS : MikeHunt: Now what do you see?
[2017-02-26 18:44:28] -_- : eth market maker needs to come back
[2017-02-26 18:45:39] MikeHunt : BTCDJS: upwards trend?
[2017-02-26 18:45:45] MikeHunt : even with the drops
[2017-02-26 18:47:42] BTCDJS : MikeHunt: Two extra levels BTC can bounce off of if ETF is rejected. My guess is it could bounce off 100 and continue
[2017-02-26 18:48:40] MikeHunt : BTCDJS: yeh, even 1k might hold
[2017-02-26 18:48:51] paper : a lot of last minute acculation happening here
[2017-02-26 18:49:09] BTCDJS : But you could place low leverage bids on the 100, see how it goes, Then close if bad and place another bid on the 200 and see how it goes
[2017-02-26 18:49:18] Guevara : wow aggressive buy action on ETH
[2017-02-26 18:49:48] BTCDJS : 880-930 is very strong resistance its between 100 and 200
[2017-02-26 18:49:56] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBJH17`: sell 20020 @ 136225
[2017-02-26 18:50:13] MikeHunt : BTCDJS: which chart we looking at? h17?
[2017-02-26 18:51:10] hmmmYea : Guevara: ethereum enterprise alliance launch day on feb28
[2017-02-26 18:51:34] rapidtrades : oh no...not the ethereum enterprise alliance
[2017-02-26 18:51:38] rapidtrades : what game changer
[2017-02-26 18:52:05] wurstgelee : rapidtrades: what?
[2017-02-26 18:52:09] wurstgelee : some bullshit news?
[2017-02-26 18:52:21] BTCDJS : MikeHunt: H17 isnt mature enough to have these Moving averages yet. I placed mine on swap but then put a support line (i meant support before) in the same place to see what the price is on H17
[2017-02-26 18:52:29] MikeHunt : EEA... http://i.imgur.com/Gl1lcad.jpg
[2017-02-26 18:52:44] MikeHunt : BTCDJS: i was using okc qrt
[2017-02-26 18:53:18] BTCDJS : MikeHunt: Are you trading there or here?
[2017-02-26 18:54:37] MikeHunt : BTCDJS: here but h17 seems to somewhat follow it
[2017-02-26 18:55:23] MikeHunt : looking on spot/finex, 100 should def hold
[2017-02-26 18:55:26] BTCDJS : Don't forget. ethereum is still in development. They're still to release the next phase. More bullish news to come
[2017-02-26 18:57:03] datboiyuan : eth mm is back
[2017-02-26 18:57:21] BTCDJS : glad I bought that shit
[2017-02-26 18:57:55] -_- : lol someone moving ETH mega wall up
[2017-02-26 18:58:03] -_- : always nice seeing someone really want in
[2017-02-26 18:58:35] -_- : rofl holy shit
[2017-02-26 18:58:38] -_- : dat buy
[2017-02-26 18:59:51] hmmmYea : rapidtrades: regardless of its impact, it is a reason some people are buying
[2017-02-26 19:01:28] BTCDJS : If ETH breaks above 200 EMA I am going to be RICH
[2017-02-26 19:02:10] -_- : if ETH hits 0.014 by Tuesday i'll be happy
[2017-02-26 19:02:36] BTCDJS : XMR will be next
[2017-02-26 19:03:00] -_- : https://bitcoinwisdom.com/markets/poloniex/xmrbtc
[2017-02-26 19:03:10] -_- : you see bitcoinwisdom showing huge sell wall on xmr?
[2017-02-26 19:03:33] -_- : https://poloniex.com/exchange#btc_xmr
[2017-02-26 19:03:35] -_- : no where to be found there
[2017-02-26 19:04:34] -_- : not much holding XMR down
[2017-02-26 19:06:07] abbey : soon
[2017-02-26 19:08:13] rapidtrades : soon ur butt will be racked abbey!
[2017-02-26 19:08:31] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTH17`: buy 24850 @ 1212.94
[2017-02-26 19:08:34] -_- : ETH tuesday event doesnt seem that news worthy. i'm guessing this pump will fizzle out by Tuesday
[2017-02-26 19:08:54] Ahhere : Crypto is sometimes too good to be true
[2017-02-26 19:10:29] abbey : rapidtrades: nope, im gettin richer
[2017-02-26 19:12:59] BTCDJS : Farzad: did you buy NAUT?
[2017-02-26 19:14:23] wurstgelee : <---
[2017-02-26 19:14:25] wurstgelee : ;)
[2017-02-26 19:14:49] BTCDJS : SO IT YOU!! pumping up the price!!
[2017-02-26 19:15:21] Farzad : BTCDJS: no, why ? did it pump ? :D
[2017-02-26 19:15:22] wurstgelee : nah, bought yday or friday, cba to check atm
[2017-02-26 19:15:39] BTCDJS : Farzad: yup
[2017-02-26 19:16:02] Farzad : lol, no I was busy, couldnt look into it.
[2017-02-26 19:16:20] -_- : guess ETH pump walls failed to do their job
[2017-02-26 19:16:55] wurstgelee : :D
[2017-02-26 19:19:19] Farzad : BTCDJS: I also looked into HaaS bot, dont think it is scam, but I dont think it is profitable as well
[2017-02-26 19:19:52] Farzad : If it was profitable they would trade with it themselves instead of selling it :D
[2017-02-26 19:20:08] BTCDJS : Farzad: Oh cool. I forgot about that.
[2017-02-26 19:20:28] Farzad : It is not that expensive
[2017-02-26 19:20:35] BTCDJS : Im not going to bother with bots until I know or have an interest in coding
[2017-02-26 19:20:46] Farzad : u may try the beginner license and let us know how it works for u ;)
[2017-02-26 19:24:12] MikeHunt : haasbot just provides the bot
[2017-02-26 19:24:18] MikeHunt : you still have to put strategies in
[2017-02-26 19:24:50] MikeHunt : if u know TA but fuck all coding but want a bot then its probably the best option
[2017-02-26 19:24:54] BTCDJS : MikeHunt: you know how to do that?
[2017-02-26 19:24:58] ic : how do I deposit USD?
[2017-02-26 19:25:03] MikeHunt : BTCDJS: make a bot?
[2017-02-26 19:25:23] BTCDJS : MikeHunt: guy haas bot and put in the parameters
[2017-02-26 19:25:27] BTCDJS : buy
[2017-02-26 19:25:45] MikeHunt : BTCDJS: i watched youtube video on how to set it up
[2017-02-26 19:26:11] BTCDJS : MikeHunt: get one dude. Tell me how it works out
[2017-02-26 19:26:46] MikeHunt : BTCDJS: after being raped i cant afford it yet
[2017-02-26 19:28:34] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: do you use bots?
[2017-02-26 19:28:56] Farzad : ic: u cant, only BTC
[2017-02-26 19:36:18] PepeLovesBitcoin : Only BTC deposits and withdrawals
[2017-02-26 19:48:27] Farzad : /joke
[2017-02-26 19:48:33] trollbot : ``` I remember being a kid and my parents filling my head with nonsense, like Santa, the Easter bunny and the Tooth Fairy. Well now that I’m older I don’t fall for that rubbish anymore, thank God.```
[2017-02-26 19:48:49] Farzad : LOL
[2017-02-26 19:48:57] Farzad : so true
[2017-02-26 19:48:59] Shaman : XD
[2017-02-26 19:49:30] Farzad : /joke
[2017-02-26 19:49:38] trollbot : ``` I looked out of my window in horror yesterday as a crowd gathered around a crashed motorcyclist. I rushed outside yelling, "Let me through, let me through" A man at the front said, "Thank God for that, are you a Doctor"? I said "No, that's my fucking Pizza"```
[2017-02-26 19:50:01] Farzad : /joke
[2017-02-26 19:50:04] trollbot : ``` What does the sign on an out-of-business brothel say? Beat it. We’re closed.```
[2017-02-26 19:50:14] Farzad : :D
[2017-02-26 19:50:25] Farzad : good jokes this week
[2017-02-26 19:58:55] picasso : https://www.youtube.com/c/CryptoPicasso
[2017-02-26 20:00:40] yungyang : picasso: hey Picasso, good stuff fam
[2017-02-26 20:01:05] picasso : yungyang: thanks
[2017-02-26 20:01:13] yungyang : great wyckoff calls on dcr and dash
[2017-02-26 20:01:24] picasso : moon suit on
[2017-02-26 20:02:17] picasso : market psychology everytime
[2017-02-26 20:04:12] freefall : hey, how to set up a post order in the API?
[2017-02-26 20:04:18] cryptoyolo : sup picasso, great content!
[2017-02-26 20:04:42] picasso : yungyang: its all elliotts btc in wave 3 now from 1050 weekly beeakout
[2017-02-26 20:04:45] freefall : is there an admin?
[2017-02-26 20:05:05] picasso : cryptoyolo: thanks !
[2017-02-26 20:05:22] freefall : no admins here today?
[2017-02-26 20:15:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 860 @ 1173.67
[2017-02-26 20:19:17] Farzad : freefall: you can look at bitmex github and their examples
[2017-02-26 20:19:59] jayesh : why no admins today ?
[2017-02-26 20:22:40] -_- : have you seen all the volume? they spent the BTC on hookers and blow
[2017-02-26 20:22:42] -_- : 3 day binge
[2017-02-26 20:23:56] freefall : Farzad: thanks, foudn already what im looking for
[2017-02-26 20:24:08] Farzad : freefall: np
[2017-02-26 20:32:45] jayesh : can we set lower fees than 0.0014 while withdrawinf funds ??
[2017-02-26 20:34:14] -_- : that depends
[2017-02-26 20:34:27] -_- : it automatically adjusts depending on transaction backlog
[2017-02-26 20:34:33] -_- : so your transaction gets included in next block
[2017-02-26 20:35:14] -_- : jayesh: so if bitmex thinks it can include your transaction in next block for a lower fee it will change on its own
[2017-02-26 20:35:21] ayy_lmao : jayesh: they set fees to be included in next block
[2017-02-26 20:35:50] -_- : although with 4,000 unconfirmed transactions i would think currently withdraw fee is $1 too high
[2017-02-26 20:36:19] -_- : ah damn eth
[2017-02-26 20:36:28] -_- : i should have longed more during that dip
[2017-02-26 20:40:28] jayesh : so we have to pay the minimum fee of 0.0014 ??
[2017-02-26 20:40:37] jayesh : not reducable ?
[2017-02-26 20:41:09] BitMEX_Sam : jayesh: At this time, yes. We aim for single-block confirmations
[2017-02-26 20:41:23] BitMEX_Sam : The network has been jammed up for quite some time, thus the high fee.
[2017-02-26 20:41:38] jayesh : ok, Thanks
[2017-02-26 20:41:41] BitMEX_Sam : -_-: You got us
[2017-02-26 20:43:45] -_- : i've paid around 0.2 BTC in fees just in the last 16 hours
[2017-02-26 20:44:21] BitMEX_Sam : I think I'm going to buy some of that Perrier water
[2017-02-26 20:44:32] BitMEX_Sam : You know, water for rich people.
[2017-02-26 20:44:55] tb : pellegrino is where it's at
[2017-02-26 20:45:17] wurstgelee : pellegrino tastes awful
[2017-02-26 20:45:19] wurstgelee : way too salty
[2017-02-26 20:45:37] -_- : that's still pretty cheap water. Fiji water is where it's at
[2017-02-26 20:47:08] BitMEX_Sam : Guess I have a lot to learn.
[2017-02-26 20:49:17] tb : fiji is for the posers
[2017-02-26 20:50:06] Adriana : Rich people drink something like Fillico or Bling H2O
[2017-02-26 20:50:35] Adriana : or http://www.telegraph.co.uk/food-and-drink/news/41335-for-a-bottle-of-water-the-worlds-most-expensive-food-and-d/
[2017-02-26 20:50:54] -_- : i get my water straight from a free well.
[2017-02-26 20:51:05] -_- : take a couple jugs and drink what the earth provides
[2017-02-26 20:51:48] Farzad : BitMEX_Sam: is there any way to get wallet balance from API ?
[2017-02-26 20:52:35] Farzad : /user/wallet shows Margin Balance
[2017-02-26 20:52:43] Farzad : not Wallet Balance
[2017-02-26 20:54:59] Farzad : am I right ?
[2017-02-26 20:56:20] Farzad : got it from /user/walletHistory ;)
[2017-02-26 21:00:19] j8 : it's in /user/margin also
[2017-02-26 21:06:23] Sultan Pepper : Sell wall on ETF, it's dumping hard right now!
[2017-02-26 21:06:38] BTCDJS : Rich people are pretentious
[2017-02-26 21:07:47] Sultan Pepper : I'm too rich to lumped in with *pretentious* people....
[2017-02-26 21:08:43] BTCDJS : I prefer down to down to earth rich people. The kind you would never expect to have money. Thats the kind I would be
[2017-02-26 21:09:16] carl : BitMEX_Sam: hey Sam, I had a stop rejected today...what gives?
[2017-02-26 21:10:21] Apocalyptic : Farzad: do you run an MM-bot or a taker bot btw ?
[2017-02-26 21:10:44] Farzad : Apocalyptic: it is a taker bot
[2017-02-26 21:13:39] MikeHunt : Farzad: did u use the bitmex sample to start with?
[2017-02-26 21:14:02] Apocalyptic : Farzad: nice, I like takers :)
[2017-02-26 21:14:20] Farzad : MikeHunt: yes, I looked at their samples. but wrote mine from scratch
[2017-02-26 21:15:50] MikeHunt : Farzad: they have more than 1 sample?
[2017-02-26 21:16:08] Farzad : they have one sample market maker
[2017-02-26 21:16:21] Farzad : but several examples in different languages
[2017-02-26 21:16:42] Farzad : I am not market making
[2017-02-26 21:16:48] Farzad : tried it
[2017-02-26 21:16:51] Farzad : didnt work
[2017-02-26 21:18:22] Apocalyptic : Farzad: let me guess, your got caught with a huge inventory in the wrong direction ?
[2017-02-26 21:18:33] Farzad : Apocalyptic: yes :D
[2017-02-26 21:18:46] Apocalyptic : happens
[2017-02-26 21:18:55] Farzad : there is not enough volume to fill in both sides
[2017-02-26 21:23:37] Apocalyptic : damn, there's literally no one short here
[2017-02-26 21:23:52] Apocalyptic : 5 ADL lights with 2x leverage
[2017-02-26 21:24:20] Apocalyptic : and negative ROE
[2017-02-26 21:26:00] MikeHunt : Apocalyptic: okc buy wall $75m stonk
[2017-02-26 21:26:16] Apocalyptic : must be just me and my rapidmate
[2017-02-26 21:26:28] -_- : yeah
[2017-02-26 21:26:38] -_- : i dont think any shorts are in profit
[2017-02-26 21:26:41] MikeHunt : i expect a double cross tomorrow
[2017-02-26 21:26:45] -_- : wonder what the margin call price is for the big ones right now
[2017-02-26 21:27:01] Apocalyptic : -_-: you don't wanna know
[2017-02-26 21:27:30] -_- : if shorters are on cross and averaging up and btc hits $1800 will there be shorts margin called of like 800,000 contracts or more
[2017-02-26 21:27:53] MikeHunt : the pattern looks like feb14/15, so it should retrace downwards ~80%
[2017-02-26 21:27:55] -_- : i'm sure most longs wont have an issue with getting ADL in massive profit by that point
[2017-02-26 21:28:37] MikeHunt : feb13-15th*
[2017-02-26 21:36:05] CapitalGains : /sentiment
[2017-02-26 21:36:08] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 65.99 / 34.01 Daily : 52.57 / 47.43 Weekly : 48.13 / 51.87 Monthly : 48.15 / 51.85```
[2017-02-26 21:40:52] cryptoyolo : market seems static this last hour
[2017-02-26 21:42:18] cryptoyolo : btcwise `-`
[2017-02-26 21:44:44] javierstone : next week is going to be big
[2017-02-26 21:44:52] javierstone : dumb money got drowned out
[2017-02-26 21:51:40] gustavo7 : how about monday cash exchange buyers + end of the month
[2017-02-26 21:52:05] -_- : ah end the month. the time when you gotta cook the books
[2017-02-26 22:01:53] mtourig3 : gustavo7: what you expect?
[2017-02-26 22:02:40] arbitrage101 : good morning, trolls
[2017-02-26 22:02:50] arbitrage101 : how is everyone doing
[2017-02-26 22:03:36] gustavo7 : some people who still might be buying in will have their transfers come monday, also some get paid between wednesday and friday
[2017-02-26 22:05:37] gustavo7 : hard to say if thats a factor tough