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[2017-02-26 16:13:47] Farzad : hey everyone
[2017-02-26 16:13:48] wurstgelee : [17:05] wurstgelee: shorts will be gently caressed soon anyways <-- accurate :p
[2017-02-26 16:13:49] wotan : ouch hsorters guess btc dont care much
[2017-02-26 16:14:01] Farzad : /price
[2017-02-26 16:14:06] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1176.00 (0.25%) Bitfinex : 1183.00 (0.68%) The Woodchipper : 1178.90 (0.85%) itBit : 1178.26 (0.48%) Kraken : 1175.00 (0.59%) GDAX : 1175.50 (0.64%) ```
[2017-02-26 16:14:25] wurstgelee : bitflyer woke up
[2017-02-26 16:14:35] Farzad : /wall
[2017-02-26 16:14:35] trollbot : ``` BitFinex Wall: Asks: 1182.8 =>[1195 Ƀ](-0.42%)<= 1213.0 Bids: 1152.7 =>[910 Ƀ](9.64%)<= 1182.7```
[2017-02-26 16:14:35] trollbot : ``` BitStamp Wall: Asks: 1178.00 =>[1154 Ƀ](-5.8%)<= 1208.00 Bids: 1145.51 =>[445 Ƀ](58.93%)<= 1175.69```
[2017-02-26 16:15:11] Farzad : /joke
[2017-02-26 16:15:16] trollbot : ``` My best friend got mad at me sniffing his sister's panties It didn't help that they were still on her. Or that all of his family was there too. Needless to say it made the rest of the funeral really awkward. ```
[2017-02-26 16:15:47] -_- : I played that all wrong
[2017-02-26 16:16:02] -_- : Should have at least left a small long open from 12 hours ago
[2017-02-26 16:16:03] Farzad : Nutella: hey honey :p
[2017-02-26 16:17:31] Sultan Pepper : Farzad: yo btcdjs is my boy. Back off breh
[2017-02-26 16:18:28] Farzad : Sultan Pepper: btcdjs is all yours, I want Nutella :p
[2017-02-26 16:18:36] cryptoyolo : btc touches 1200 today
[2017-02-26 16:19:11] InvalidUser : AKA leaps over
[2017-02-26 16:19:21] cryptoyolo : xD
[2017-02-26 16:20:10] InvalidUser : It's only 22 bucks away on BS
[2017-02-26 16:21:18] Farzad : /wall
[2017-02-26 16:21:19] trollbot : ``` BitFinex Wall: Asks: 1181.8 =>[1200 Ƀ](0.42%)<= 1212.0 Bids: 1151.2 =>[1056 Ƀ](16.04%)<= 1181.5```
[2017-02-26 16:21:19] trollbot : ``` BitStamp Wall: Asks: 1178.00 =>[1311 Ƀ](13.6%)<= 1208.00 Bids: 1147.00 =>[427 Ƀ](-4.04%)<= 1177.28```
[2017-02-26 16:22:14] Farzad : breaching 1200 wont be easy. although I am not saying it wont happen
[2017-02-26 16:22:42] Farzad : bulls need to eat through that wall
[2017-02-26 16:23:07] InvalidUser : 1481 coins on BS to 1200
[2017-02-26 16:23:28] Farzad : /wall
[2017-02-26 16:23:28] trollbot : ``` BitFinex Wall: Asks: 1182.3 =>[1215 Ƀ](1.25%)<= 1212.4 Bids: 1151.8 =>[1069 Ƀ](1.23%)<= 1181.9```
[2017-02-26 16:23:29] trollbot : ``` BitStamp Wall: Asks: 1177.28 =>[1290 Ƀ](-1.6%)<= 1207.44 Bids: 1147.00 =>[408 Ƀ](-4.45%)<= 1177.27```
[2017-02-26 16:23:37] InvalidUser : 600k worth
[2017-02-26 16:24:01] wotan : fed can print that in seconds:)
[2017-02-26 16:24:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTH17`: buy 166240 @ 1215.15 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:
[2017-02-26 16:24:08] Farzad : InvalidUser: where do u get your info ?
[2017-02-26 16:24:09] InvalidUser : wotan: lol
[2017-02-26 16:24:40] wurstgelee : h17 ;)
[2017-02-26 16:24:49] wurstgelee : more fomo please
[2017-02-26 16:24:55] InvalidUser : Charts and practice. I stare at the charts all the time.
[2017-02-26 16:25:28] InvalidUser : How many coin to x price I get from http://bitcoinity.org/markets/bitstamp/USD
[2017-02-26 16:25:37] Farzad : InvalidUser: no I mean, u were wrong.
[2017-02-26 16:25:57] Farzad : there was 1290 coins to 1207
[2017-02-26 16:26:09] Farzad : and u say 1381 coins too 1200 !
[2017-02-26 16:26:30] InvalidUser : O I made a mistake.
[2017-02-26 16:26:44] Farzad : np, bro
[2017-02-26 16:26:55] Farzad : /wall
[2017-02-26 16:26:56] trollbot : ``` BitStamp Wall: Asks: 1178.00 =>[1092 Ƀ](-15.35%)<= 1208.00 Bids: 1145.51 =>[469 Ƀ](14.95%)<= 1176.37```
[2017-02-26 16:26:56] trollbot : ``` BitFinex Wall: Asks: 1185.2 =>[1224 Ƀ](0.74%)<= 1215.6 Bids: 1154.2 =>[939 Ƀ](-12.16%)<= 1184.2```
[2017-02-26 16:27:16] CapitalGains : wurstgelee: I see you're long. What's your target?
[2017-02-26 16:27:26] Farzad : now only 1092 coins to 1208
[2017-02-26 16:29:22] jolin : Farzad: 1.096 BTC?
[2017-02-26 16:29:40] Farzad : jolin: ?
[2017-02-26 16:30:02] jolin : or u say 1092 price to 1208
[2017-02-26 16:30:22] Farzad : 1092 BTC, not price
[2017-02-26 16:30:30] jolin : o
[2017-02-26 16:30:33] jolin : ok
[2017-02-26 16:30:58] jolin : what leverage u use?
[2017-02-26 16:31:18] Ahhere : Anyone know the ATL of bitcoin ?
[2017-02-26 16:31:29] wurstgelee : $0
[2017-02-26 16:31:37] Ahhere : wurstgelee: ouch
[2017-02-26 16:32:30] wurstgelee : Ahhere: u were the shorter that changed his mind, right?
[2017-02-26 16:32:32] wotan : :))
[2017-02-26 16:33:06] Farzad : jolin: 1-5x
[2017-02-26 16:33:18] Ahhere : I resemble that comment. I am full longtard @wurstgelee
[2017-02-26 16:33:25] wurstgelee : Ahhere: hehe
[2017-02-26 16:33:30] jolin : Farzad: txs
[2017-02-26 16:33:35] Farzad : my target profit is 5% monthly
[2017-02-26 16:33:55] Farzad : np
[2017-02-26 16:34:05] jolin : Farzad: reasonable
[2017-02-26 16:34:18] jolin : having 1095 BTC
[2017-02-26 16:35:10] Farzad : ;)
[2017-02-26 16:39:08] CutTheLosses : gratz
[2017-02-26 16:40:04] -_- : I'm longing the top. Sucks but oh well
[2017-02-26 16:40:33] Ahhere : -_-: sounds risky u reckon we going up obviously ?
[2017-02-26 16:41:23] MikeHunt : might get another $10 out of it
[2017-02-26 16:42:25] Ahhere : I'm keeping my long open. My usual test is would I open a new long here if not I close
[2017-02-26 16:42:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `FCT7D`: sell 11 @ 0.002442
[2017-02-26 16:43:11] MikeHunt : 1230 looks possible
[2017-02-26 16:43:26] CapitalGains : Whatever happens, H17 will overreact
[2017-02-26 16:43:31] -_- : I closed my long at 1150. Opening again at 1215
[2017-02-26 16:43:42] MikeHunt : CapitalGains: yup, and if okc dumps the prem will liquify high lvg longs
[2017-02-26 16:43:44] -_- : #winning
[2017-02-26 16:44:11] Ahhere : -_-: happens. Even Warren buffet makes wrong trades
[2017-02-26 16:44:25] -_- : Of course okc quarterly randomly goes down $8
[2017-02-26 16:44:26] CapitalGains : MikeHunt: I'm short and averaging up, but I wouldn't mind an even bigger premium for shorting at the top.
[2017-02-26 16:44:52] -_- : Gotta get in before the institutions start buying tomorrow
[2017-02-26 16:45:04] -_- : 1300-1400 soon
[2017-02-26 16:45:17] Ahhere : Warren buffets no 1 rule
[2017-02-26 16:45:21] -_- : Was hoping for 1100 first
[2017-02-26 16:45:30] Ahhere : "never short bitcoin"
[2017-02-26 16:46:11] pat : Ahhere: very dumb idea
[2017-02-26 16:47:30] cookielito : pat: Seriously
[2017-02-26 16:48:14] pat : -_-: yes
[2017-02-26 16:48:15] MikeHunt : CapitalGains: averaging up is very risky in bitcoin
[2017-02-26 16:48:21] Ahhere : pat: works for warren
[2017-02-26 16:48:46] pat : Ahhere: He is cool chap, but does not have a clue about bitcoin
[2017-02-26 16:49:02] CapitalGains : MikeHunt: agreed. But I'm not on high lvg, 5x
[2017-02-26 16:50:50] MikeHunt : CapitalGains: i got slaughtered in 5x
[2017-02-26 16:50:50] abbey : the trend is ur friend
[2017-02-26 16:50:56] Ahhere : pat: he made 76% of his fortune going long btc I think he knows what he's doing lol
[2017-02-26 16:51:03] CapitalGains : MikeHunt: 5x short?!
[2017-02-26 16:51:09] BTCDJS : Till the end when it bends @abbey
[2017-02-26 16:51:10] MikeHunt : CapitalGains: yup
[2017-02-26 16:51:22] MikeHunt : CapitalGains: tried to average up and was eventually overrun
[2017-02-26 16:51:38] MikeHunt : heavily manipulated market so if they can rape all the shorts they can and they will
[2017-02-26 16:51:44] BTCDJS : I tried to call tops and failed
[2017-02-26 16:52:23] RoftheN : Why is it up again?
[2017-02-26 16:52:30] MikeHunt : ironically im stuck in a short again, tried to short top of that drop few days ago, it processed at the bottom :/
[2017-02-26 16:52:32] RoftheN : Do they want ATH?
[2017-02-26 16:52:33] wurstgelee : i ordered a bullish engulfing tweezer for today's daily, just in case you are wondering
[2017-02-26 16:52:38] wurstgelee : ;)
[2017-02-26 16:53:01] MikeHunt : RoftheN: they want rape, if ATH means rape which it probably does since i suspect many shorted this down run, then yeh
[2017-02-26 16:53:33] wurstgelee : who is "they"?
[2017-02-26 16:53:33] CapitalGains : MikeHunt: Maybe I'll hold off on the averaging up, and hope my liq price of 1480 is high enough.
[2017-02-26 16:53:41] wurstgelee : is that some tinfoil level thing?
[2017-02-26 16:53:53] InvalidUser : It's nice to give REKT something to do
[2017-02-26 16:53:54] MikeHunt : CapitalGains: 1480 should be ok but instead of average up try deleveraging instead
[2017-02-26 16:54:03] wurstgelee : CapitalGains: dont hold on to a losing position, cut ur losses early.
[2017-02-26 16:54:13] MikeHunt : wurstgelee: +1
[2017-02-26 16:54:15] wurstgelee : really no point in doing that
[2017-02-26 16:54:22] wurstgelee : thats just dumb
[2017-02-26 16:54:27] MikeHunt : wurstgelee: just giving him options
[2017-02-26 16:54:33] wurstgelee : if u realize its going wrong, get rid of it
[2017-02-26 16:54:35] wurstgelee : asap
[2017-02-26 16:55:05] wurstgelee : step back, reconsider options, act ..or dont. not acting is the right thing to do sometimes
[2017-02-26 16:55:23] wurstgelee : /pearls of wisdom off
[2017-02-26 16:55:24] jolin : act now...long:)
[2017-02-26 16:55:24] Ahhere : 80% likely ath tonight or tomorrow my indicators both positive
[2017-02-26 16:55:37] CapitalGains : You guys are obviously right, I just fantasize about flash dumps like two days ago, from 1280 to 930.
[2017-02-26 16:55:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 5108 @ 1179.52
[2017-02-26 16:56:03] wurstgelee : yeah, fantasy sure is the way to go in trading 8)
[2017-02-26 16:56:15] MikeHunt : Ahhere: they may well do it again
[2017-02-26 16:56:29] jolin : f u c k I n g bitmex
[2017-02-26 16:56:36] wotan : ?
[2017-02-26 16:56:44] jolin : no liquidity
[2017-02-26 16:56:46] MikeHunt : why have a full correction when you can do it in 30 seconds....
[2017-02-26 16:57:02] wotan : so you have to say f u c k i n g luquidy instead
[2017-02-26 16:57:16] jolin : wotan: yes
[2017-02-26 16:57:20] abbey : nice
[2017-02-26 16:57:40] jolin : up to 2018 withot retracement, BUY
[2017-02-26 16:57:48] Farzad : /wall
[2017-02-26 16:57:48] trollbot : ``` BitFinex Wall: Asks: 1183.7 =>[1435 Ƀ](17.24%)<= 1214.0 Bids: 1153.6 =>[1120 Ƀ](19.28%)<= 1183.6```
[2017-02-26 16:57:48] trollbot : ``` BitStamp Wall: Asks: 1180.75 =>[1195 Ƀ](9.43%)<= 1210.95 Bids: 1150.05 =>[378 Ƀ](-19.4%)<= 1180.08```
[2017-02-26 16:57:58] Farzad : /price
[2017-02-26 16:58:02] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1181.00 (0.43%) Bitfinex : 1183.60 (0.05%) The Woodchipper : 1177.68 (-0.10%) itBit : 1181.26 (0.25%) Kraken : 1179.86 (0.41%) GDAX : 1182.63 (0.61%) ```
[2017-02-26 16:59:54] Ahhere : My indicators have not been this positive since the jump from 200-300$
[2017-02-26 17:00:04] Nutella : we move $10 and all poors start dreams of moon
[2017-02-26 17:00:06] Nutella : Crazy!
[2017-02-26 17:00:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 5000 @ 1180.63
[2017-02-26 17:00:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 35200 @ 1180.30
[2017-02-26 17:00:23] Ahhere : Both left and right indicators rock hard
[2017-02-26 17:01:04] jolin : Nutella: till fundin 3h so up another 10usd lol
[2017-02-26 17:01:32] jolin : and then 1200 shorts start to pee into pants
[2017-02-26 17:01:43] jolin : manjana
[2017-02-26 17:01:52] wurstgelee : cant what for rapidtrades' rants about market stupidity
[2017-02-26 17:02:03] wurstgelee : *wait
[2017-02-26 17:02:30] jolin : wurstgelee: its not market, its manipulatio
[2017-02-26 17:02:34] MikeHunt : dont get cocky, they raise it, they can lower it and trap longs
[2017-02-26 17:02:49] jolin : MikeHunt: I get pussy
[2017-02-26 17:02:56] jolin : p u s s y
[2017-02-26 17:03:03] MikeHunt : thats nice
[2017-02-26 17:03:14] MikeHunt : my comment was aimed at wurst btw
[2017-02-26 17:03:14] wurstgelee : nothing dicky here, i said its wrong to be short since i woke up today ;)
[2017-02-26 17:03:42] MikeHunt : yeh im just a bit fucked off about being stuck down here :/
[2017-02-26 17:03:58] wurstgelee : new daily hit btflyer btw
[2017-02-26 17:04:08] wurstgelee : *high
[2017-02-26 17:04:21] wurstgelee : i might or might not be a little baked
[2017-02-26 17:05:38] MikeHunt : $75m buy wall on okc
[2017-02-26 17:05:41] Ahhere : wurstgelee: not the DEA here what kind of drugs do you like,bro? :)
[2017-02-26 17:06:27] wurstgelee : i am oldschool, good drinks, weed and sometimes it might get a little bit snowy on special occasions
[2017-02-26 17:06:48] CapitalGains : What's your opinion of walls?
[2017-02-26 17:06:49] InvalidUser : All the exchanges have 1000+ coin walls someone is fucking around
[2017-02-26 17:06:58] wotan : wurstgelee: :))) oldschool is cool
[2017-02-26 17:07:08] wurstgelee : my opinions of walls is that idc about them tbh
[2017-02-26 17:07:19] wurstgelee : they are there and gone in a sec
[2017-02-26 17:07:24] Ahhere : ^ gets it
[2017-02-26 17:07:33] InvalidUser : O no I was wrong
[2017-02-26 17:07:41] 10 : anyone short?
[2017-02-26 17:07:46] wurstgelee : so that /lwalls command is useless af
[2017-02-26 17:07:52] CapitalGains : 10: Yup
[2017-02-26 17:08:00] wurstgelee : 10: ofc, each long euqals exactly one short
[2017-02-26 17:08:04] wurstgelee : zero sum, right? ;)
[2017-02-26 17:08:10] wurstgelee : *equals
[2017-02-26 17:08:13] CapitalGains : But mostly the market makers are short
[2017-02-26 17:08:20] 10 : CapitalGains: I got a nice hedge in right now
[2017-02-26 17:08:24] wurstgelee : you dont know that
[2017-02-26 17:08:26] 10 : Waiting for the unload
[2017-02-26 17:08:27] Ahhere : wurstgelee: each buy = 1 sell
[2017-02-26 17:08:31] wurstgelee : seen a lot of bears earlier here
[2017-02-26 17:08:40] wurstgelee : Ahhere: yes. ;)
[2017-02-26 17:09:26] CapitalGains : wurstgelee: what I mean is that if 90% of users are long, then it's most likely the automated market makers who are their counterparties. Or what?
[2017-02-26 17:09:43] wurstgelee : yes, but thats a big if
[2017-02-26 17:09:51] wurstgelee : u cant know that
[2017-02-26 17:10:30] CapitalGains : Acknowledged
[2017-02-26 17:15:28] rapidtrades : wurstgelee: noone wants to read ur 'pearls of wisdom'
[2017-02-26 17:15:42] wurstgelee : i love you too
[2017-02-26 17:16:48] wurstgelee : CapitalGains: rapid for example is always short because he hates bitcoin
[2017-02-26 17:16:59] wurstgelee : and his money obv
[2017-02-26 17:18:26] Ahhere : bears will you short all the way to the moon? what is your 'if u can't beat em' price?
[2017-02-26 17:19:42] rapidtrades : wurstgelee: my money is fine
[2017-02-26 17:20:26] wurstgelee : idc
[2017-02-26 17:20:41] Ahhere : ^burn
[2017-02-26 17:21:22] rapidtrades : at least u dumb moonkids can't pump COIN
[2017-02-26 17:21:39] rapidtrades : there's a hard limit on that and I will cash out in 2 weeks
[2017-02-26 17:21:51] wurstgelee : lol
[2017-02-26 17:21:58] wurstgelee : yeah, i dont touch that
[2017-02-26 17:22:05] wurstgelee : i would have bought some @ 25
[2017-02-26 17:22:09] wurstgelee : bid did get no fills
[2017-02-26 17:22:57] itsyourboy : wurstgelee: whats your re-evaluation price?
[2017-02-26 17:23:08] wurstgelee : ?
[2017-02-26 17:23:17] wurstgelee : for what?
[2017-02-26 17:23:40] itsyourboy : take it you're long?
[2017-02-26 17:23:46] wurstgelee : yes
[2017-02-26 17:24:07] wurstgelee : my target price?
[2017-02-26 17:24:15] itsyourboy : yeah
[2017-02-26 17:24:16] rapidtrades : ur stop
[2017-02-26 17:24:31] wurstgelee : stop and target both when my left ball and i agree
[2017-02-26 17:24:41] BTCDJS : Guys. Don't fight. Bitcoin has a 59/50 chance going parabolic or retracing back to 600s rapid is right about the moonkids. And the moon kids are right to expect moon. There is evidence for both. And if you're smart you will be on the fence until confirmation. You're only taking a position because you're in a position.
[2017-02-26 17:24:42] rapidtrades : i thought so
[2017-02-26 17:25:10] Ahhere : BTCDJS: i like those odds
[2017-02-26 17:25:13] rapidtrades : BTCDJS: odds on COIN are still elevated
[2017-02-26 17:25:25] wurstgelee : BTCDJS: or u pick one side and set a stop because the reward is more than 50% depending on your leverage
[2017-02-26 17:25:36] wurstgelee : and the risk acordingly smaller
[2017-02-26 17:25:37] rapidtrades : consequently, odds for a severe drop in prices are better then odds for a jump
[2017-02-26 17:25:39] BTCDJS : 50/50 stupid phone
[2017-02-26 17:25:49] wurstgelee : *c
[2017-02-26 17:25:53] Ahhere : :P @BTCDJS
[2017-02-26 17:25:58] wurstgelee : depends on how u want to play this
[2017-02-26 17:26:19] NooBTCrader : /price
[2017-02-26 17:26:23] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1183.23 (0.19%) Bitfinex : 1184.40 (0.07%) The Woodchipper : 1180.00 (0.20%) itBit : 1182.73 (0.12%) Kraken : 1184.42 (0.39%) GDAX : 1184.34 (0.14%) ```
[2017-02-26 17:26:25] wurstgelee : we printed a pretty W on the chart, trend is still intact, i am long
[2017-02-26 17:26:26] rapidtrades : its just idiots longing on leverage as we saw from the cascading margin calls two days ago
[2017-02-26 17:26:28] wurstgelee : simple :)
[2017-02-26 17:26:38] rapidtrades : theres no 'new money' coming in or organic growth
[2017-02-26 17:26:45] rapidtrades : it's just plain old fomo
[2017-02-26 17:26:48] wurstgelee : i am fine with taking old money
[2017-02-26 17:26:50] BTCDJS : wurstgelee: there is manipulation though
[2017-02-26 17:27:04] wurstgelee : BTCDJS: was it any different in bitcoin, ever?
[2017-02-26 17:27:22] rapidtrades : BTCDJS: he's a short-term trader, prolly not very good one
[2017-02-26 17:27:30] MikeHunt : wurstgelee: i think it gets worse as time goes on
[2017-02-26 17:27:32] wurstgelee : yes, i really suck
[2017-02-26 17:27:54] wurstgelee : MikeHunt: well, pboc reduced it for now
[2017-02-26 17:28:03] wurstgelee : now bitlfyer needs fees next
[2017-02-26 17:28:08] MikeHunt : wurstgelee: the chinese moved to other exchanges, they may have made it worse
[2017-02-26 17:28:24] wurstgelee : yes, to bitflyer
[2017-02-26 17:28:40] wurstgelee : but the chop isnt as bad there yet, also no volume faking, at least not in china dimensions
[2017-02-26 17:28:41] MikeHunt : there are quite a few no fee exchanges
[2017-02-26 17:28:43] wurstgelee : so far all fine over there imo
[2017-02-26 17:29:13] wurstgelee : that pboc intervention was a good thing for bitcoin
[2017-02-26 17:29:32] BTCDJS : Growth is slow. FOMO is quick. Rapid has a point. But the data still suggests growth. By that rationale 600s is prolly unlikely though Expect a retrace.
[2017-02-26 17:29:33] wurstgelee : also we needed that bloodbath to move on ;)
[2017-02-26 17:29:38] donsteep : MikeHunt: there are? do they have any real volume too?
[2017-02-26 17:29:52] j8 : yeah, ETF getting denied is the next good thing for bitcoin
[2017-02-26 17:29:59] wurstgelee : yep
[2017-02-26 17:29:59] rapidtrades : +1
[2017-02-26 17:30:07] MikeHunt : donsteep: probably not atm but if china moves again they will
[2017-02-26 17:30:14] MikeHunt : i dont expect japan gov to do anything for time being
[2017-02-26 17:30:17] j8 : then we hardfork and come away stronger, get rid of all those idiots
[2017-02-26 17:30:18] wurstgelee : i wouldnt mind approval though
[2017-02-26 17:30:23] wurstgelee : i am ok with either outcome
[2017-02-26 17:30:59] rapidtrades : j8 i think ur brain damaged
[2017-02-26 17:31:10] wurstgelee : hf is too much. way 2 much
[2017-02-26 17:31:15] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: I'm sure he's being sarcastic
[2017-02-26 17:31:25] rapidtrades : doubtful
[2017-02-26 17:31:28] wurstgelee : no sure
[2017-02-26 17:31:33] wurstgelee : *not
[2017-02-26 17:31:35] j8 : i know how to annoy rapid by now
[2017-02-26 17:31:39] wurstgelee : hahaha
[2017-02-26 17:31:42] wurstgelee : k ;)
[2017-02-26 17:31:44] rapidtrades : j8 u suck
[2017-02-26 17:32:05] wurstgelee : i heard ur mom does
[2017-02-26 17:32:49] MikeHunt : before crashes a double top isnt unusual
[2017-02-26 17:32:53] rapidtrades : only 1 week left for the chinese locked withdrawals
[2017-02-26 17:32:56] Rado : j8: by the way I totally agree
[2017-02-26 17:33:09] Rado : I hate this ETF bs
[2017-02-26 17:33:17] rapidtrades : there will be major panic if one or more of them doesn't allow withdrawals
[2017-02-26 17:33:19] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: and $50k capital control limit on btc withdrawals
[2017-02-26 17:33:34] wurstgelee : lol. did okc quartlies just spike to 1200?
[2017-02-26 17:33:44] wurstgelee : yep
[2017-02-26 17:33:48] MikeHunt : apparently chinese just moved to localbtc to uby
[2017-02-26 17:33:51] MikeHunt : buy
[2017-02-26 17:34:43] rapidtrades : I still don't buy the AML reason
[2017-02-26 17:34:46] rapidtrades : smth stinks here
[2017-02-26 17:34:54] Rado : rapidtrades: after I covered my short I flipped long
[2017-02-26 17:35:03] rapidtrades : don't care
[2017-02-26 17:35:08] Rado : lol
[2017-02-26 17:35:16] Rado : I know
[2017-02-26 17:35:21] -_- : dumping
[2017-02-26 17:35:22] -_- : finex
[2017-02-26 17:35:51] rapidtrades : are u guys that leveraged u have to comment every $5-10 move
[2017-02-26 17:36:07] Rado : Over 1200 things will get jumpy
[2017-02-26 17:36:07] CapitalGains : /price
[2017-02-26 17:36:08] -_- : yeah man
[2017-02-26 17:36:13] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1180.64 (-0.22%) Bitfinex : 1181.80 (-0.22%) The Woodchipper : 1179.33 (-0.06%) itBit : 1182.99 (0.02%) Kraken : 1181.10 (-0.28%) GDAX : 1183.14 (-0.10%) ```
[2017-02-26 17:36:13] -_- : balls to the walls long
[2017-02-26 17:36:33] rapidtrades : Rado: debatable, we already crossed it few day ago
[2017-02-26 17:36:53] BTCDJS : I suggest if you're new don't fall for the hype. Just set a long order in the 850-910 range and be patient.
[2017-02-26 17:37:19] Rado : 4% Margin Used 0.86x Leverage
[2017-02-26 17:37:43] BTCDJS : If the news is positive and bitcoin goes mental. Buy a dip after ATH is broken. On 1D
[2017-02-26 17:37:47] -_- : long now and ride the ETF hype to 1400
[2017-02-26 17:38:08] rapidtrades : good luck with that
[2017-02-26 17:38:18] Rado : BTCDJS: buying dips is nice
[2017-02-26 17:38:39] Rado : but you have to buy the trend sometimes as well
[2017-02-26 17:39:12] BTCDJS : -_-: you're new. Follow my advice
[2017-02-26 17:39:28] Rado : I stopped a couple of times on my shorts and was lucky we got the big dip
[2017-02-26 17:39:29] -_- : and miss out on the greatest pump in BTC history
[2017-02-26 17:39:44] BTCDJS : -_-: oh dear
[2017-02-26 17:39:48] CapitalGains : -_-: that was 2013
[2017-02-26 17:40:00] -_- : $1,000 to $10,000 next month thanks to ETF
[2017-02-26 17:40:03] Rado : long is the way to play for sure
[2017-02-26 17:40:11] rapidtrades : most ppl here never seen a bear market
[2017-02-26 17:40:21] -_- : then down to $4,000 and back up to $8,000
[2017-02-26 17:40:26] wurstgelee : great depression of 2015?
[2017-02-26 17:40:29] -_- : going to be incredible
[2017-02-26 17:40:29] wurstgelee : ;)
[2017-02-26 17:40:41] Rado : rapidtrades: and until we have one no need to be bearish
[2017-02-26 17:40:43] rapidtrades : they think buying the dip workss everytime
[2017-02-26 17:40:50] BTCDJS : -_-: maybe. Maybe not. But don't forget your BTC is still gaining value even if you're not in a position
[2017-02-26 17:41:17] Rado : rapidtrades: it does if you use stops
[2017-02-26 17:41:24] wurstgelee : exactly
[2017-02-26 17:41:42] Ahhere : I think bears getting their periods synchronised
[2017-02-26 17:41:53] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: when the trend is broken dip buying is redundant. But the trend is still in tact
[2017-02-26 17:42:37] BTCDJS : Rado: stops? Have you seen what happened to people using stops these last few days?
[2017-02-26 17:42:40] wurstgelee : wise words DJ S
[2017-02-26 17:42:42] wurstgelee : 8)
[2017-02-26 17:42:55] odieoh : @rapidtrades you were talking about no new money coming into the system. Isn't Japan kind of the new kid in town, with a fair bit of fiat coming in from them?
[2017-02-26 17:43:12] Rado : BTCDJS: what happen is I made 4 BTC
[2017-02-26 17:43:23] j8 : mark price stops aren't bad
[2017-02-26 17:43:27] Rado : I never trade without stops
[2017-02-26 17:43:28] BTCDJS : Rado: you got lucky. Others lost
[2017-02-26 17:43:39] wurstgelee : odieoh: you dont uderstand him yet, facts are not a requirement for his rants
[2017-02-26 17:43:47] j8 : XBTH17 only went 100 dollars down from here
[2017-02-26 17:43:48] BTCDJS : Rado: sure I'm with you. Stops are good.
[2017-02-26 17:44:09] BTCDJS : Not lately here though
[2017-02-26 17:44:27] Rado : BTCDJS: why would the lose if they were long and have a stop where they bought or higher
[2017-02-26 17:44:41] Ahhere : Rado: liquidity and market stops
[2017-02-26 17:45:01] odieoh : If there is no orders on the book at the level they wanted the stop at, it doesn't get filled
[2017-02-26 17:45:06] rapidtrades : there's no safe way to long this market, a dump can come at anytime for any reason
[2017-02-26 17:45:10] Rado : Liquidity is great for most people here
[2017-02-26 17:45:16] rapidtrades : you will be picked off
[2017-02-26 17:45:17] BTCDJS : Rado: true. But some did cos their stops were lower
[2017-02-26 17:45:26] rapidtrades : the R/R just isn't there
[2017-02-26 17:45:37] rapidtrades : if ur long and making money u just got lucky
[2017-02-26 17:45:43] wurstgelee : rapidtrades: if u have roi 100% more than several times during this run, u sure can survive 1 100% hit
[2017-02-26 17:45:45] wurstgelee : or 2
[2017-02-26 17:45:50] Rado : BTCDJS: yes, hard to figure out a good stop
[2017-02-26 17:46:01] Rado : i get stopped very often
[2017-02-26 17:46:15] Ahhere : rapidtrades: why would someone continue longing with all their winnings? its called monay management?
[2017-02-26 17:46:24] jolin : Rado: what your stop? 50usd or so?
[2017-02-26 17:46:33] CapitalGains : Isn't adjusting your margin so that your liquidation price is your stop the safest way to do it?
[2017-02-26 17:46:37] BTCDJS : @rapidtrades TBF if you were long you wouldn't say that
[2017-02-26 17:47:00] wurstgelee : keep ur positiion sizes constant, have 2 100 % roi trades, repeat until trend is broken
[2017-02-26 17:47:04] wurstgelee : every moron can do that
[2017-02-26 17:47:07] Rado : jolin: right now I moved my stop from 1166 to 1180 on xbth17
[2017-02-26 17:47:19] Ahhere : CapitalGains: liquidation will usually cost more than a stop
[2017-02-26 17:47:32] -_- : okc quarterly dumping
[2017-02-26 17:47:33] -_- : down $18
[2017-02-26 17:47:44] jolin : Rado: good pos
[2017-02-26 17:49:19] -_- : hoping for $25-$30 dump soon
[2017-02-26 17:49:20] Rado : Looks like most of the new people stopped posting
[2017-02-26 17:49:43] wurstgelee : haha =)
[2017-02-26 17:50:37] Rado : -_-: 25-30 is a correction
[2017-02-26 17:50:41] Rado : dump is 200
[2017-02-26 17:50:58] wurstgelee : that
[2017-02-26 17:51:09] CBF : wots a new people
[2017-02-26 17:51:19] wurstgelee : !=old people
[2017-02-26 17:51:36] CBF : oo
[2017-02-26 17:51:40] wurstgelee : footy dun?
[2017-02-26 17:51:47] CBF : nope
[2017-02-26 17:51:50] CBF : 2-2
[2017-02-26 17:51:52] wurstgelee : ht?
[2017-02-26 17:51:58] CBF : eatin pizza
[2017-02-26 17:52:02] CBF : noir..
[2017-02-26 17:52:40] CBF : just popped over to catch a knife or 2..
[2017-02-26 17:53:19] wurstgelee : hehe
[2017-02-26 17:53:59] ayy_lmao : lol
[2017-02-26 17:54:11] wurstgelee : there u go
[2017-02-26 17:55:53] Adriana : If Finex crosses 1170 within 5 min it will be a text book, perfectly executed bull trap
[2017-02-26 17:56:59] cryptoyolo : There u have it
[2017-02-26 17:57:53] Papou : i just cant bring myself to long these levels.
[2017-02-26 17:58:05] Papou : 1100+ is just way too much room for profit taking
[2017-02-26 17:58:16] Papou : i mean we can dip to 900 and still be in the bull trend
[2017-02-26 17:58:27] Papou : 800 even
[2017-02-26 17:58:42] ayy_lmao : looks like a double bottom inv h&s to me
[2017-02-26 17:58:47] ayy_lmao : but what do i know papou
[2017-02-26 17:58:51] ayy_lmao : my name is ayy lmao
[2017-02-26 17:58:52] Papou : if uve been long from months ago great but who the hell is starting a long position above 1100
[2017-02-26 17:59:49] jho : COIN_BH17 taking a hit
[2017-02-26 18:00:03] BTCDJS : Newboobie moonkids
[2017-02-26 18:00:21] Apocalyptic : @jho meaningless given the books
[2017-02-26 18:00:32] Apocalyptic : someone just sold dozens of contracts
[2017-02-26 18:01:13] cryptoyolo : I can see the H&S forming
[2017-02-26 18:02:23] ayy_lmao : already bouncing
[2017-02-26 18:02:25] BTCDJS : I see it too
[2017-02-26 18:03:16] wurstgelee : id say textbook dip more than textbook bulltrap
[2017-02-26 18:03:28] InvalidUser : /\
[2017-02-26 18:04:31] CBF : kthnxbye
[2017-02-26 18:04:39] wurstgelee : CBF: l8rs
[2017-02-26 18:09:48] jayesh : wow
[2017-02-26 18:10:32] Rado : I see dead head and shoulders
[2017-02-26 18:10:36] Farzad : BTCDJS: I do not agree, when bitcoin reached $10 from $0.01, a lot of people were saying the same thing
[2017-02-26 18:10:50] Farzad : it can easily go to $10K
[2017-02-26 18:11:04] Rado : Farzad: it will too
[2017-02-26 18:11:06] Farzad : why do u think only noobs go long here ?
[2017-02-26 18:11:13] Rado : just a matter of time
[2017-02-26 18:11:25] Farzad : I am definitely long here
[2017-02-26 18:11:47] CapitalGains : Farzad: On what basis?
[2017-02-26 18:12:03] ayy_lmao : weekly still looks fine for parabolic
[2017-02-26 18:12:24] Rado : CapitalGains: are you short?
[2017-02-26 18:12:33] Farzad : well, if u trade with high leverage, it can be dangerous to go long
[2017-02-26 18:12:47] CapitalGains : Rado: Yes.
[2017-02-26 18:12:48] Farzad : but trading btc is very easy with low leverage
[2017-02-26 18:12:53] Farzad : go long
[2017-02-26 18:12:54] wurstgelee : Farzad: its a question of bankroll management
[2017-02-26 18:13:00] Rado : CapitalGains: on what basis?
[2017-02-26 18:13:02] Farzad : when it goes down, go more long :D
[2017-02-26 18:13:15] Farzad : in long term u win
[2017-02-26 18:13:19] jayesh : Not much money was involved the time when it went to $10
[2017-02-26 18:13:43] ayy_lmao : new weekly candle today
[2017-02-26 18:13:45] Farzad : jayesh: compared to what ? when it reached $10, people will say the same thing
[2017-02-26 18:13:47] ayy_lmao : pretty significant
[2017-02-26 18:13:56] CapitalGains : Rado: On the basis of the liquidation mechanics on Bitmex's H17.
[2017-02-26 18:13:57] Farzad : when it was $1K, not much money was involved
[2017-02-26 18:14:06] Farzad : its all relative
[2017-02-26 18:14:10] wurstgelee : ayy_lmao: we are fine, i ordered a bullish engulfing tweezer for the daily
[2017-02-26 18:14:21] Rado : CapitalGains: huh?
[2017-02-26 18:14:25] Rado : come again
[2017-02-26 18:14:31] ayy_lmao : wurstgelee: +1 just putting things into perspective for people
[2017-02-26 18:14:41] Rado : if you are short you are not making money
[2017-02-26 18:14:43] wurstgelee : ;)
[2017-02-26 18:14:44] Rado : easy as that
[2017-02-26 18:14:46] Farzad : the trend is definitely bullish
[2017-02-26 18:14:50] jayesh : Farzad: You cant double it easily now. you need so much money for doing that.. its not a shit coin that it will go 2x-3x with little money
[2017-02-26 18:15:20] Farzad : jayesh: u can double it or get REKT.
[2017-02-26 18:15:29] Farzad : like casino
[2017-02-26 18:15:42] Farzad : but I am talking about sustained 5%/month
[2017-02-26 18:15:55] jayesh : Farzad: I am not sayig i am bearish. I am bullish too. But it wont go to 10k within short period of time.
[2017-02-26 18:16:01] Farzad : it is unbelievable if u are in financial sector
[2017-02-26 18:16:38] jayesh : Farzad: Not talking about doubling our money. Its about doubling the price..
[2017-02-26 18:16:45] Farzad : jayesh: If ETF gets approved, you may be proven wrong ;)
[2017-02-26 18:17:02] jayesh : Farzad: IF
[2017-02-26 18:17:13] Farzad : well there are many IFs
[2017-02-26 18:17:25] Farzad : cryptos are the future
[2017-02-26 18:17:31] jayesh : i agree
[2017-02-26 18:17:40] Farzad : we are early investors
[2017-02-26 18:18:30] CapitalGains : Rado: basically I've seen the quarterly on Bitmex drop down to $300 due to liquidations, whereas because the collateral is held in BTC, short squeezes don't get quite so out of hand (even though they can be wild).
[2017-02-26 18:19:00] BTCDJS : If bitcoin is going to 10k longers should not FOMO because their holding BTC anyway
[2017-02-26 18:19:36] Farzad : BTCDJS: absolutely, I bought my coins for $10 each
[2017-02-26 18:19:42] Farzad : while it was at its peak !
[2017-02-26 18:19:52] Farzad : in 2010-11
[2017-02-26 18:20:20] cryptoyolo : damn of course u can long it now
[2017-02-26 18:20:22] Farzad : but if u go short, well u will get rekt sooner or later
[2017-02-26 18:21:14] Farzad : I am just saying, going long even here, is not the stupidest thing in the world
[2017-02-26 18:21:55] Farzad : but u should manage your leverage and have a strategy
[2017-02-26 18:22:38] cryptonoob : problem is dumps happen too fast with BTC and it goes up very slowly
[2017-02-26 18:22:55] Apocalyptic : cryptonoob: this is not BTC-specific
[2017-02-26 18:23:04] Apocalyptic : it's like that for almost any asset, like stocks
[2017-02-26 18:23:29] cryptonoob : stocks are regulated though
[2017-02-26 18:23:29] Farzad : cryptonoob: take advantage of the situation
[2017-02-26 18:23:41] Farzad : go long after each dump is over
[2017-02-26 18:23:44] Farzad : u win
[2017-02-26 18:23:56] cryptonoob : catch a falling chainsaw
[2017-02-26 18:23:59] Apocalyptic : cryptonoob: irrelevant for this discussion
[2017-02-26 18:24:00] Farzad : I called long last night after the dump
[2017-02-26 18:24:13] Apocalyptic : regulation doesn't dictate how fast an asset falls
[2017-02-26 18:24:19] Apocalyptic : fear and people selling does
[2017-02-26 18:25:54] cryptonoob : Apocalyptic: SEC created a rule in 2008 to prevent people from short selling massively
[2017-02-26 18:25:56] cryptoyolo : go long, trail stop and gg
[2017-02-26 18:26:10] Farzad : Apocalyptic: also we have stolen coins in BTC dumping in market
[2017-02-26 18:26:19] Farzad : but market will absorb it slowly
[2017-02-26 18:26:44] MikeHunt : this is why i think SEC will not allow ETF is manipulators will have a field day with public investors
[2017-02-26 18:28:04] Farzad : MikeHunt: well, even if it doesnt allow it, we will stand right where we are standing right now
[2017-02-26 18:28:29] carl : So why the fuck did my stop not hit last night? fucking rubbish
[2017-02-26 18:28:33] Farzad : there will be a dump and gaining slowly again
[2017-02-26 18:28:53] Farzad : carl: stops dont work if there is no liquidity
[2017-02-26 18:29:01] carl : So it can just be rejected?
[2017-02-26 18:29:05] carl : That's fucked
[2017-02-26 18:29:34] Farzad : carl: I dont think they get rejected, get executed at market price
[2017-02-26 18:29:42] carl : Says my stop was rejecrted in my order history
[2017-02-26 18:30:00] Farzad : hmmmm
[2017-02-26 18:30:01] carl : Hence why I still have a short position open in the red
[2017-02-26 18:30:12] carl : So that's great
[2017-02-26 18:30:27] carl : Awesome that I can set a stop just for Mex to be like "Hmm, you know what, no."
[2017-02-26 18:30:31] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: buy 150 @ 0.012140
[2017-02-26 18:30:34] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: buy 7 @ 0.012170
[2017-02-26 18:30:37] Farzad : carl: I dont know why a stop can be rejected !
[2017-02-26 18:30:37] wurstgelee : ask support, bitmex_sam or gregg or whoever responds
[2017-02-26 18:30:39] -_- : just fomo bought ETH
[2017-02-26 18:30:41] -_- : huge ass walls
[2017-02-26 18:30:43] wurstgelee : they can tell u what happened and y
[2017-02-26 18:32:01] Sultan Pepper : carl: probably user error
[2017-02-26 18:32:23] carl : Sultan Pepper: uh no
[2017-02-26 18:32:33] Sultan Pepper : Oh you're right
[2017-02-26 18:33:05] carl : @bitmex_sam, @bitmex_greg? can anyone explain why a stop loss would just be outright rejected?
[2017-02-26 18:33:31] Sultan Pepper : Couldn't possibly be you not understanding the functions
[2017-02-26 18:33:33] carl : maybe I didn't have enough margin?
[2017-02-26 18:34:09] Farzad : carl: if it was a stoploss, it should decrease your required margin
[2017-02-26 18:34:17] carl : @farzad exactly
[2017-02-26 18:34:42] Farzad : carl: didnt u place it in the wrong direction ? :D
[2017-02-26 18:34:53] Sultan Pepper : Farzad: uh no
[2017-02-26 18:34:54] carl : @Farzad haha no
[2017-02-26 18:34:55] wurstgelee : thats an option