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[2017-02-26 02:18:22] rapidtrades : guys call 911
[2017-02-26 02:18:27] InvalidUser : in Season 10 it's freedom 45
[2017-02-26 02:18:29] rapidtrades : bitcoin is about to die
[2017-02-26 02:18:35] MVZ : /sentiment
[2017-02-26 02:18:38] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 47.80 / 52.20 Daily : 56.56 / 43.44 Weekly : 48.32 / 51.69 Monthly : 48.14 / 51.86```
[2017-02-26 02:18:41] Ahhere : rapidtrades: again yawn
[2017-02-26 02:18:45] rapidtrades : IT'S HYPERVENTILATING
[2017-02-26 02:18:49] InvalidUser : Ahhere: (:
[2017-02-26 02:18:54] rapidtrades : crash to 1100 imminent
[2017-02-26 02:19:06] InvalidUser : FUD master spreads FUD
[2017-02-26 02:19:07] Sultan Pepper : something something chart of doom
[2017-02-26 02:19:13] Ahhere : rapidtrades: re read what you just wrote
[2017-02-26 02:19:18] Sultan Pepper : problem lomgs?
[2017-02-26 02:19:23] InvalidUser : nop
[2017-02-26 02:19:27] InvalidUser : e
[2017-02-26 02:19:34] Ahhere : Promblem lombs?
[2017-02-26 02:19:42] Sultan Pepper : problem limbs?
[2017-02-26 02:19:46] yungyang : strange the premium is so wide methinks
[2017-02-26 02:19:52] InvalidUser : lkjasdfas
[2017-02-26 02:20:01] Ahhere : Plemblem blems
[2017-02-26 02:20:06] Sultan Pepper : hahahahaha
[2017-02-26 02:20:09] Sultan Pepper : got me
[2017-02-26 02:20:23] rapidtrades : Ahhere: what do u mean bish
[2017-02-26 02:20:38] Sultan Pepper : rapidtrades: pribblem bim?
[2017-02-26 02:20:59] Ahhere : rapidtrades: the only butts getting cracked tonight is shorts ?
[2017-02-26 02:21:10] laisee : language levels are at 5 and going down
[2017-02-26 02:21:12] InvalidUser : rapidtrades: Where did you start your short?
[2017-02-26 02:21:13] rapidtrades : ok still delusional
[2017-02-26 02:21:21] Sultan Pepper : Ahhere: i make short
[2017-02-26 02:21:29] Sultan Pepper : short do good
[2017-02-26 02:21:37] Sultan Pepper : money come
[2017-02-26 02:21:41] laisee : InvalidUser: short from 800
[2017-02-26 02:22:01] InvalidUser : Liq?
[2017-02-26 02:22:06] Sultan Pepper : no
[2017-02-26 02:22:23] Sultan Pepper : "dumbest" fucker here
[2017-02-26 02:22:29] laisee : I guess he funded it with extra $$$
[2017-02-26 02:22:30] Sultan Pepper : :rolleyes:
[2017-02-26 02:22:40] Ahhere : rapidtrades: u will make money short. Just not today. Not. Today.
[2017-02-26 02:22:47] Diplomata : /price
[2017-02-26 02:22:50] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1136.62 (-0.07%) Bitfinex : 1136.00 (0.07%) The Woodchipper : 1129.33 (-0.05%) itBit : 1136.85 (-0.13%) Kraken : 1135.96 (-0.19%) GDAX : 1135.00 (-0.22%) ```
[2017-02-26 02:22:58] rapidtrades : pretty sure its gonna happen in next few hours bra @Ahhere
[2017-02-26 02:22:59] rapidtrades : BRA
[2017-02-26 02:23:01] Sultan Pepper : Ahhere: he ALWAYS makes money on that short
[2017-02-26 02:23:24] laisee : Ahhere: I made 3 shorts today & got +ve pnl
[2017-02-26 02:23:38] Ahhere : Got to take care my lady gnite ?
[2017-02-26 02:23:48] rapidtrades : last chance to leave the titanik longs
[2017-02-26 02:23:48] Sultan Pepper : Ahhere: investing in PSSY?
[2017-02-26 02:24:00] rapidtrades : almost no more boats left!
[2017-02-26 02:24:08] rip : why would bitcoin go up if we don't have eyes?
[2017-02-26 02:24:23] Sultan Pepper : rip: you wut?
[2017-02-26 02:24:38] Diplomata : /joke
[2017-02-26 02:24:40] trollbot : ``` As he inserted the rectal thermometer [nsfw] As he inserted the rectal thermometer, I got a painfully hard and obvious erection "Maybe you should wait outside whilst I examine your dog," said the vet. ```
[2017-02-26 02:24:56] Sultan Pepper : ha.
[2017-02-26 02:25:26] laisee : embarassing when that happens, eh?
[2017-02-26 02:26:01] Sultan Pepper : "Then I said, maybe *you* should wait outside" nahmsayin?
[2017-02-26 02:27:19] laisee : awkward monent indeed
[2017-02-26 02:28:00] Sultan Pepper : /ban Sultan Pepper
[2017-02-26 02:31:48] thxforyourbtc! : do other canadians here just use quadrigacx for buying/selling coin?
[2017-02-26 02:34:18] MVZ : is it time to short guys?
[2017-02-26 02:37:01] rip : yes
[2017-02-26 02:37:02] aandy : /sentiment
[2017-02-26 02:37:05] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 32.04 / 67.96 Daily : 56.68 / 43.32 Weekly : 48.28 / 51.72 Monthly : 48.13 / 51.87```
[2017-02-26 02:44:14] aandy : /price
[2017-02-26 02:44:17] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1141.57 (0.44%) Bitfinex : 1143.00 (0.62%) The Woodchipper : 1133.00 (0.32%) itBit : 1142.33 (0.48%) Kraken : 1138.50 (0.22%) GDAX : 1139.40 (0.39%) ```
[2017-02-26 02:46:21] Cryptonary : /wall
[2017-02-26 02:46:22] trollbot : ``` BitStamp Wall: Asks: 1144.24 =>[657 Ƀ](-15.23%)<= 1174.43 Bids: 1111.23 =>[1325 Ƀ](244.16%)<= 1141.97```
[2017-02-26 02:46:22] trollbot : ``` BitFinex Wall: Asks: 1143.8 =>[1036 Ƀ](5.28%)<= 1173.9 Bids: 1113.6 =>[1755 Ƀ](33.36%)<= 1143.7```
[2017-02-26 02:46:41] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 4000 @ 1139.44
[2017-02-26 02:48:23] aandy : /price
[2017-02-26 02:48:26] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1145.00 (0.30%) Bitfinex : 1144.30 (0.11%) The Woodchipper : 1133.65 (0.06%) itBit : 1144.14 (0.16%) Kraken : 1145.57 (0.62%) GDAX : 1142.15 (0.24%) ```
[2017-02-26 02:52:22] l3f : rapidtrades: on a scale of 1 to extremely short where are you at bro?
[2017-02-26 03:14:34] zanza : rapid reversed and closed short, went long at 1220
[2017-02-26 03:15:22] arbitrage101 : zanza: are you sure
[2017-02-26 03:16:26] zanza : his twitter said so
[2017-02-26 03:17:23] arbitrage101 : zanza: link?
[2017-02-26 03:17:27] arbitrage101 : he has a twitter?
[2017-02-26 03:20:24] wurstgelee : trolls gonna troll
[2017-02-26 03:20:26] wurstgelee : ;)
[2017-02-26 03:22:16] rip : what is bitflyer doing lol
[2017-02-26 03:22:36] wurstgelee : dunno, but i longed a bit
[2017-02-26 03:23:18] l3f : zanza: poetic justice
[2017-02-26 03:23:25] l3f : the bear buys the top
[2017-02-26 03:24:05] wurstgelee : that didnt really happen tho? rapid longing the top?
[2017-02-26 03:24:55] Sultan Pepper : wurstgelee: your name :/
[2017-02-26 03:24:57] naja71 : how do you think about ETF? positive be passed or not in your opinion?
[2017-02-26 03:25:01] laisee : any evidence for bear on top pf the mountain?
[2017-02-26 03:27:33] zanza : rapid's t witter https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump
[2017-02-26 03:28:06] InvalidUser : kek
[2017-02-26 03:33:22] REKT : Liquidated short on `REP7D`: buy 3 @ 0.004312
[2017-02-26 03:38:39] InvalidUser : Shhhh Bitcoin is sleeping.
[2017-02-26 03:40:10] ThatCEOGuy : Hey, questionfor those of you that buy the dip. What counts as a dip to you? Whenever it goes down? Or does it have to go below your entry price before you buy?
[2017-02-26 03:56:13] naja71 : god knows. haha
[2017-02-26 04:00:12] rapidtrades : ThatCEOGuy: don't buy the dip
[2017-02-26 04:00:44] rapidtrades : they're just lucky, the ones thta survive a dump or flash crash stay while others are washed out
[2017-02-26 04:01:15] rapidtrades : so u get a bunch of ppl that survived a few crashes to they think that's what works
[2017-02-26 04:03:35] rapidtrades : PAYDAY, JUST GOT PAYDAY
[2017-02-26 04:07:16] MikeHunt : also got $20 prem on h17
[2017-02-26 04:07:21] MikeHunt : if/when this sldies
[2017-02-26 04:07:28] Sultan Pepper : spooky. i just went to close an order so i could re-place it. it got bought exactly when i clicked cancel
[2017-02-26 04:07:40] Sultan Pepper : i almost placed another order by accident
[2017-02-26 04:08:10] MikeHunt : ThatCEOGuy: generally buying dips on way up is same, but on way down its dangerous
[2017-02-26 04:08:19] MikeHunt : safe*
[2017-02-26 04:10:00] rapidtrades : also past few months in bitcoin are highly unusual, ppl only advocate dip buying cos that worked best last
[2017-02-26 04:10:37] rapidtrades : the hype on reddit is prolly bigger then in 2013
[2017-02-26 04:17:38] InvalidUser : JPY might be making a move
[2017-02-26 04:17:45] InvalidUser : up
[2017-02-26 04:27:47] rapidtrades : http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-25/trump-says-he-will-skip-white-house-correspondents-dinner
[2017-02-26 04:29:32] InvalidUser : **Kiss*
[2017-02-26 04:31:40] InvalidUser : JPY is definitelymaking a move
[2017-02-26 04:32:55] rapidtrades : noone cared about JPY 2 months ago now u love it cos its pumping
[2017-02-26 04:33:12] rapidtrades : confirmation bias at its best
[2017-02-26 04:33:16] wurstgelee : exactly
[2017-02-26 04:33:34] wurstgelee : volume shifted from china to japan, ofc we care
[2017-02-26 04:40:46] InvalidUser : I hope governments learn from that. You try and ban Bitcoin and you put you and your whole country to to the rear of the pecking order
[2017-02-26 04:41:04] InvalidUser : CNY went from #1 to just ignore them
[2017-02-26 04:41:14] MikeHunt : okc qrtly going down yet h17 going up? suicide lol
[2017-02-26 04:42:37] wurstgelee : yes, because of the reason rapidtrades mentioned
[2017-02-26 04:42:38] wurstgelee : ;)
[2017-02-26 04:43:39] InvalidUser : Obligatory theme music. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkdmOVejUlI
[2017-02-26 04:43:44] aandy : /sentiment
[2017-02-26 04:43:46] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 47.55 / 52.45 Daily : 56.83 / 43.17 Weekly : 48.28 / 51.72 Monthly : 48.08 / 51.92```
[2017-02-26 04:45:30] InvalidUser : Close your shorts we going up
[2017-02-26 04:48:30] InvalidUser : WOw That was a lot of short sales
[2017-02-26 04:48:32] InvalidUser : GL
[2017-02-26 04:54:56] MikeHunt : apparently that cloudflare problem affected both okcoin sites
[2017-02-26 04:55:01] MikeHunt : cnledger advises changing passwords
[2017-02-26 04:55:23] l3f : bears got rused by friends
[2017-02-26 04:55:26] l3f : don't short the dip
[2017-02-26 04:57:28] InvalidUser : All those shorts are now _% ROI
[2017-02-26 04:57:35] InvalidUser : -% ROI
[2017-02-26 04:57:45] InvalidUser : ROE
[2017-02-26 04:57:57] l3f : InvalidUser: depends if they shorted the bottom
[2017-02-26 04:58:06] l3f : I sincerely hope nobody shorted the dip
[2017-02-26 04:58:37] InvalidUser : This is going to get ugly. That was a lot of shorts.
[2017-02-26 04:59:47] shery : march is exploading again
[2017-02-26 04:59:48] l3f : InvalidUser: rapidtrades is an inverse indicator in case there's people that don't get it
[2017-02-26 05:00:08] l3f : If rapid is extremely sure on shorting, then it must be the bottom
[2017-02-26 05:00:20] l3f : if he says short then he means buy
[2017-02-26 05:00:32] l3f : if he gloats about funding it means buy more
[2017-02-26 05:00:41] ThatCEOGuy : rapidtrades: So, what would you do? If you weren't stuck in that short that is.
[2017-02-26 05:00:44] InvalidUser : lol.. We will call it the Rapid index
[2017-02-26 05:00:46] l3f : if he says long it's time to get out
[2017-02-26 05:01:07] l3f : Hahaha
[2017-02-26 05:01:14] l3f : he's the best trader here
[2017-02-26 05:01:17] l3f : I always listen to him
[2017-02-26 05:01:24] l3f : rapidtrades MVP
[2017-02-26 05:02:10] l3f : he da real MVP
[2017-02-26 05:02:48] InvalidUser : I will be shorting this market but not for a few months
[2017-02-26 05:04:20] l3f : InvalidUser: by that time rapid will be long
[2017-02-26 05:04:27] micmix : time to short was in 2013-2014, it's been time to long since 2015
[2017-02-26 05:05:05] InvalidUser : l3f: God I hope not.. You can make a lot of money going against the market but it is much easier to go with it.
[2017-02-26 05:05:35] l3f : InvalidUser: depends on your styple
[2017-02-26 05:05:36] l3f : style*
[2017-02-26 05:05:45] l3f : I tend to hold bigger positions for longer times
[2017-02-26 05:05:49] micmix : might be another year or two before it's time to short again
[2017-02-26 05:06:14] l3f : that's not suited for btc since it jumps the elevator for a day and then climbs the stairs for five days
[2017-02-26 05:06:25] InvalidUser : l3f: Very true.. I am in it for the long haul my self.
[2017-02-26 05:06:30] c.l : price will not suddenly increase over $1230, that is impossible. but, $980 is just 5 second.
[2017-02-26 05:06:31] laisee : Is that human years or bitcoin years?
[2017-02-26 05:06:52] InvalidUser : micmix: You never know with BTC it's too new,, just have to be dynamic and read it as it happens.
[2017-02-26 05:07:00] Rado : c.l: everything is possible
[2017-02-26 05:07:17] micmix : bitcoin year = 10 min? @laisee
[2017-02-26 05:07:24] .. : if trading short-term this seems like a good place to short a bit, just have tight stop loss if we go over 1160 w some vol
[2017-02-26 05:08:46] l3f : InvalidUser: Shorting makes a huge gain very fast, very worth it if you can find a good entry
[2017-02-26 05:08:58] micmix : 99% of short-time traders will be wiped out by a combination of random movements plus volatility
[2017-02-26 05:10:03] laisee : Heh. 1 bitcoin yr == 1 block ✅
[2017-02-26 05:10:10] .. : wiped out is a bit subjective, but more gambling than med/long term traders yeh
[2017-02-26 05:10:13] micmix : laisee: nice one!
[2017-02-26 05:10:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 8705 @ 1151.78
[2017-02-26 05:10:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 5000 @ 1151.82
[2017-02-26 05:11:34] InvalidUser : All those shorts ----
[2017-02-26 05:12:03] micmix : wipe longs, wipe shorts, rinse and repeat. bitcoin market in a nutshell
[2017-02-26 05:12:27] l3f : panic buy
[2017-02-26 05:12:46] shery : l3f: 1160 is confirmed
[2017-02-26 05:12:55] c.l : short is very hard to detect stop point. 12 hours ago, I short 1202. stop 1160, turning long 1160, and liquidated. lol
[2017-02-26 05:13:07] shery : l3f: you were a big fan of longing in december fan
[2017-02-26 05:13:15] shery : december*
[2017-02-26 05:13:30] l3f : shery: still a fan of the long
[2017-02-26 05:13:38] javierstone : oh so we go up again
[2017-02-26 05:14:06] shery : l3f: long is only good with 5x, anything above that will fck you like it did on friday with that crash !
[2017-02-26 05:14:12] InvalidUser : The index is tracking very nicely
[2017-02-26 05:15:10] ayy_lmao : okc usd is behaving
[2017-02-26 05:15:17] aandy : buy buy buy
[2017-02-26 05:19:08] l3f : shery: I was fine with stops
[2017-02-26 05:19:36] MikeHunt : $32 prem over okc
[2017-02-26 05:20:56] l3f : MikeHunt: their index is lower
[2017-02-26 05:21:42] MikeHunt : l3f: ahh but still equivalent?
[2017-02-26 05:21:50] l3f : checking now
[2017-02-26 05:22:23] l3f : MikeHunt: lmao
[2017-02-26 05:22:26] l3f : their futes have -ve premium
[2017-02-26 05:23:39] aandy : /sentiment
[2017-02-26 05:23:41] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 42.75 / 57.25 Daily : 56.59 / 43.41 Weekly : 48.28 / 51.72 Monthly : 48.08 / 51.92```
[2017-02-26 05:24:02] MikeHunt : l3f: -ve?
[2017-02-26 05:24:07] MikeHunt : sorry if noob question
[2017-02-26 05:24:48] l3f : negative
[2017-02-26 05:24:52] l3f : lower than their spot
[2017-02-26 05:24:53] l3f : march
[2017-02-26 05:25:10] l3f : tempted to buy but I took my money out of there
[2017-02-26 05:25:14] l3f : may have been a mistake
[2017-02-26 05:25:26] MikeHunt : l3f: i thought h17 followed okc qrt ?
[2017-02-26 05:25:41] l3f : MikeHunt: sometimes
[2017-02-26 05:25:48] InvalidUser : Here we go
[2017-02-26 05:27:31] InvalidUser : The order book is so thin at finx
[2017-02-26 05:27:37] l3f : some furious bidding on H17
[2017-02-26 05:28:04] aandy : buyyyyyy
[2017-02-26 05:28:10] .. : finex going for 1160 fomo
[2017-02-26 05:29:30] InvalidUser : Someone at Finx is about to loose 64 coins
[2017-02-26 05:31:03] InvalidUser : 49 left
[2017-02-26 05:31:45] InvalidUser : 61 coins at finx now
[2017-02-26 05:32:00] .. : pretty slowww
[2017-02-26 05:32:04] InvalidUser : 49
[2017-02-26 05:32:18] InvalidUser : ..: Just wait
[2017-02-26 05:32:36] .. : nice lil market sell
[2017-02-26 05:33:11] InvalidUser : There is a 170 BTC buy order wall at finx
[2017-02-26 05:33:35] .. : no ?
[2017-02-26 05:36:43] murphy : oh no! I'm making money, what do I do!?
[2017-02-26 05:37:52] .. : Mm maybe just 1130-1160 till Monday, then break either down (test 1100, potentially bounce from 1080) or go up again.
[2017-02-26 05:41:43] Ugly_Old_Goat : Looks like 1130 helld
[2017-02-26 05:43:14] InvalidUser : I think 1130 is our new bottom.
[2017-02-26 05:43:21] Ugly_Old_Goat : I am fully bot in again. Will start selling at contract highs or start buying on a break below 11
[2017-02-26 05:43:27] Ugly_Old_Goat : 1100
[2017-02-26 05:44:14] Bjangles_90 : Price
[2017-02-26 05:44:24] Ugly_Old_Goat : long perp and March will goal of liquidating March going into expire
[2017-02-26 05:44:50] shery : Ugly_Old_Goat: what will happen when march expires
[2017-02-26 05:45:22] Bjangles_90 : Hey clear the way in the old bizare hey you let us through its a brand new star
[2017-02-26 05:46:41] Ugly_Old_Goat : shery: lhard to say. June will come on board probably at large premium. S o trick is to move March into spot or perp and collect the premium to pay funding in perp
[2017-02-26 05:48:02] Ugly_Old_Goat : Remember I bot all my March at 20-30 discount and have been selling march at 20-50 premiium.
[2017-02-26 05:48:17] Ugly_Old_Goat : March and perp will be at same price on expiry
[2017-02-26 05:51:08] shery : Ugly_Old_Goat: got your point , thanks
[2017-02-26 05:55:29] Ugly_Old_Goat : shery: most likely perp will hit all time highs while March will lag. Remember march was 60+ premium at peak. I doubt we will get close to that again unless we have explosion on upside
[2017-02-26 05:56:36] MikeHunt : havent even had correction on 1day yet
[2017-02-26 06:01:11] rullwull : Ugly_Old_Goat: march and swap may be close, but not exactly the same on settelement
[2017-02-26 06:02:36] j8 : swap could even be on a different index by then
[2017-02-26 06:05:00] rapidtrades : they wouldn't DARE
[2017-02-26 06:05:32] j8 : people have been asking for it for a while.
[2017-02-26 06:05:49] j8 : maybe they need to settle and restart or something though
[2017-02-26 06:05:52] rapidtrades : newbs not ppl
[2017-02-26 06:06:19] j8 : i dunno, its pretty well established that its a shitty index
[2017-02-26 06:07:21] j8 : and it was never really meant to be permanent
[2017-02-26 06:08:13] l3f : rapidtrades: when people ask about changing the index
[2017-02-26 06:08:14] l3f : it is top
[2017-02-26 06:12:04] Rado : l3f: huh?
[2017-02-26 06:12:19] rapidtrades : j8: 'established'
[2017-02-26 06:12:30] rapidtrades : j8 always with the h8
[2017-02-26 06:12:36] l3f : Rado: People were bitching about stamp lagging behind too much on the last china pump
[2017-02-26 06:12:53] l3f : Now they were bitching about okc lagging behind stamp too much on the stamp pump
[2017-02-26 06:13:16] rapidtrades : exactly, index was fine until okc started lagging the moon ride
[2017-02-26 06:13:16] j8 : it was never a china index though
[2017-02-26 06:13:29] rapidtrades : its not china index now either
[2017-02-26 06:13:33] j8 : okc.com was way behind every other usd market
[2017-02-26 06:13:44] j8 : the index was totally unrepresentative of the usd market
[2017-02-26 06:13:56] rapidtrades : that just ur opinion
[2017-02-26 06:14:19] j8 : its not only my opinion
[2017-02-26 06:16:06] rapidtrades : they already said okc is staying so w/e h8
[2017-02-26 06:16:15] rapidtrades : *h8er
[2017-02-26 06:17:06] j8 : they've said lots of times that they're looking at other options for the index.. not saying they should be out but that something else should be added
[2017-02-26 06:17:39] j8 : if you think marking 100x positions to 50-50 okc and bitstamp is fine then i don't know what to say
[2017-02-26 06:18:24] rapidtrades : wwhatever
[2017-02-26 06:18:34] rapidtrades : ppl know what they're getting themselves into
[2017-02-26 06:18:40] rapidtrades : says 50/50 okc stamp
[2017-02-26 06:18:50] rapidtrades : if they can't read FC*K EM
[2017-02-26 06:18:53] ayy_lmao : it could be better, thats all he is saying
[2017-02-26 06:18:56] j8 : of course, that doesn't mean it shouldn't be better
[2017-02-26 06:19:02] rapidtrades : wont be better for shorts
[2017-02-26 06:19:32] j8 : i don't care about that, i want a good market to trade
[2017-02-26 06:19:34] rapidtrades : ppl took positions based on that index
[2017-02-26 06:19:34] ayy_lmao : its not supposed to help short or longs
[2017-02-26 06:20:07] rapidtrades : plz spare me the fake neutralism
[2017-02-26 06:20:33] j8 : i'm short on swap, it wouldn't help me if they added coinbase or bitfinex
[2017-02-26 06:21:12] rapidtrades : to quote bitmex 'ppl came to rely' on the current index
[2017-02-26 06:21:30] j8 : but i agree they can't just flip over to something that might be $10 different
[2017-02-26 06:27:24] laisee : spot mrket is changing somewhat, its not easy to select an index thats going to be useful over long term in BTC
[2017-02-26 06:28:07] ayy_lmao : there isnt many options with volume besides finex, thats the problem
[2017-02-26 06:28:09] laisee : i.e. should bitflyer be added this month?
[2017-02-26 06:29:04] j8 : okc.com has less volume than gemini
[2017-02-26 06:29:12] ayy_lmao : either gdax or gemini
[2017-02-26 06:29:36] ayy_lmao : both of which tend to be close to stamp
[2017-02-26 06:32:45] InvalidUser : Buckle up
[2017-02-26 06:32:48] laisee : perhaps there might be issues in using US-based exchange?
[2017-02-26 06:33:04] ayy_lmao : yah thats why bitmex said
[2017-02-26 06:33:11] ayy_lmao : so what option do we have?
[2017-02-26 06:33:12] ayy_lmao : lol
[2017-02-26 06:33:27] ayy_lmao : it comes back to finex
[2017-02-26 06:33:40] ayy_lmao : which doesnt seem to be popular option from bitmex side
[2017-02-26 06:33:45] InvalidUser : They should use a few exchanges and have them implement slowly over a week.
[2017-02-26 06:34:27] InvalidUser : 6-8 would be a good number
[2017-02-26 06:34:41] rapidtrades : no it wouldn't
[2017-02-26 06:34:45] rapidtrades : wtf newbs stop talking
[2017-02-26 06:34:47] laisee : its tricky - they can accused on favouring some positions or strategies if they contsntly change index
[2017-02-26 06:34:55] rapidtrades : ur making me rage inside
[2017-02-26 06:35:17] laisee : rapidtrades: I dnt know u had worked in financial markets anywhere?
[2017-02-26 06:39:00] InvalidUser : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91_G8iaokk8
[2017-02-26 06:40:42] zanza : his homepage used to be yahoo! finance if that counts
[2017-02-26 06:43:07] InvalidUser : LOL RIP fuker https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1802320.msg17957615#msg17957615
[2017-02-26 06:44:06] .. : "fuker" ?
[2017-02-26 06:44:19] InvalidUser : Yea I don't like him
[2017-02-26 06:45:35] .. : why would you not like him.. he great bitcoin developer
[2017-02-26 06:45:56] rapidtrades : 1) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B014MIBXFQ/
[2017-02-26 06:46:10] rapidtrades : 2) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B015PYZI8E/
[2017-02-26 06:46:17] InvalidUser : ..: https://steemit.com/bitcoin/@adambalm/the-truth-about-who-is-behind-blockstream-and-segwit-as-the-saying-goes-follow-the-money
[2017-02-26 06:46:28] rapidtrades : STOP
[2017-02-26 06:46:32] rapidtrades : pick 1 or 2
[2017-02-26 06:46:42] .. : ah, you are indoctrinated by some rbtc bullshit, okay
[2017-02-26 06:46:58] InvalidUser : https://steemit.com/bitcoin/@adambalm/one-miner-loses-usd12k-from-bu-bug-core-devs-scream-users-pay-millions-in-excessive-tx-fees-over-the-last-year-meh-not-a
[2017-02-26 06:47:30] InvalidUser : rapidtrades: You want if for games?
[2017-02-26 06:47:37] InvalidUser : it
[2017-02-26 06:47:51] rapidtrades : 1 or 2
[2017-02-26 06:48:14] .. : those posts are just idiotic lol "Bitcoin can go to 10,000 USD with 4 MB blocks" what a piece of shit propaganda
[2017-02-26 06:48:26] .. : dont believe populism, stick to arguments/facts
[2017-02-26 06:48:49] ThruTheFloor : wtf I thought that by the time I woke up we'd be in the 900s, what the hell happened?
[2017-02-26 06:49:02] ThruTheFloor : Where's the dump i was promised?
[2017-02-26 06:49:07] InvalidUser : BTC used to have unlimited block size.. The 1mb block size was a temp patch
[2017-02-26 06:49:15] l3f : ThruTheFloor: it dumped upward
[2017-02-26 06:49:36] ThruTheFloor : l3f: That's crazy. Bitcoins gonna bankrupt me
[2017-02-26 06:50:00] ThruTheFloor : So, time to yolo fomo long? Or are we waiting for The Dump Part 2?
[2017-02-26 06:50:34] ThruTheFloor : /sentiment
[2017-02-26 06:50:37] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 70.67 / 29.34 Daily : 57.17 / 42.83 Weekly : 48.47 / 51.53 Monthly : 48.13 / 51.87```
[2017-02-26 06:51:56] InvalidUser : rapidtrades: This one is better for games https://www.amazon.com/dp/B014MIBXFQ/
[2017-02-26 06:52:17] .. : InvalidUser: so let me guess, you are a BU supporter?
[2017-02-26 06:53:40] .. : actually never mind, no point in discussing this if you seriously believe that first steemit post, just stick to conspiracy theories, ignore arguments.. well done
[2017-02-26 06:53:42] InvalidUser : ..: Yup,, I have also applied to apart of the team that votes on it's direction. They use consensus on how to move forward with BTC Core dictates what is going to happen
[2017-02-26 06:54:20] .. : they dont use consensus, they use "lets hope we all agree and otherwise we make some extra splits and forks"
[2017-02-26 06:54:21] rapidtrades : InvalidUser: ok
[2017-02-26 06:54:22] micmix : rapidtrades: Lenovo is better but you don't really need i7, i5 is more than enough and cheaper
[2017-02-26 06:56:30] micmix : rapidtrades: 12GB RAM + real SSD in Lenovo ftw
[2017-02-26 06:57:27] rapidtrades : what do u mean by real SSD
[2017-02-26 06:57:49] rapidtrades : the DELL i5 version costs more lol
[2017-02-26 06:58:51] micmix : Dell that you linked has 1TB mechanical drive with 8GB SSD cache, more space but much slower than real 256GB SSD in Lenovo
[2017-02-26 06:59:26] rapidtrades : yes
[2017-02-26 07:00:14] micmix : so if you don't need a lot of space for porn real SSD is better lol
[2017-02-26 07:01:38] rapidtrades : i can prolly add in HDD
[2017-02-26 07:02:16] rapidtrades : the lenovo i5 doesn't have touch screen and is only $100 cheaperr
[2017-02-26 07:03:57] .. : on dell you can sometimes get like 3 discount codes (have to apply for their discounted programs etc) if you order directly from them, but requires some work. just fyi
[2017-02-26 07:04:29] .. : (last time I did that was more than year ago, so dont have any direct advice on where/how)
[2017-02-26 07:04:43] micmix : you'll have to check is there is a slot to add a second HDD. most laptops don't have it. you can always add external USB drive but it's another box to take with you. Dell screen is better though than Lenovo's, but everything else looks better on Lenovo
[2017-02-26 07:05:00] arbitrage101 : pretty sure rapid need porn the way he talked here
[2017-02-26 07:05:56] arbitrage101 : would be hard to trade with much pressure build up without a way to realease
[2017-02-26 07:07:03] rapidtrades : micmix: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01LNOE4GW/
[2017-02-26 07:07:12] rapidtrades : that one is 1BG+128 SSB
[2017-02-26 07:07:19] rapidtrades : same price as the 256 SSD
[2017-02-26 07:07:24] arbitrage101 : gee man
[2017-02-26 07:07:33] arbitrage101 : that is double the price of my new dell desktop
[2017-02-26 07:08:43] rapidtrades : 1TB+128 SSB or 256 SSD
[2017-02-26 07:08:57] arbitrage101 : for non porn: 256ssd
[2017-02-26 07:09:21] rapidtrades : HD is upgradable
[2017-02-26 07:09:25] arbitrage101 : there are so many xvideo site anyway, you dont need to download porn and put them in your hd
[2017-02-26 07:09:59] ThruTheFloor : arbitrage101: But what if the videos get taken down or your internet goes out?
[2017-02-26 07:10:02] ThruTheFloor : You need a backup
[2017-02-26 07:10:21] rapidtrades : that's where u mom comes in yo
[2017-02-26 07:10:37] ThruTheFloor : rapidtrades: Whatever makes her happy
[2017-02-26 07:14:12] rapidtrades : two more week
[2017-02-26 07:14:31] rapidtrades : 13 days to be exact
[2017-02-26 07:14:48] ThruTheFloor : Will we see 880 before then?
[2017-02-26 07:15:14] rapidtrades : yes if decision gets leaked
[2017-02-26 07:16:24] rapidtrades : we should get a decision by the 7th tho
[2017-02-26 07:17:07] rapidtrades : its unlikely that they will wait until march 10th
[2017-02-26 07:19:27] ThruTheFloor : Tuesdays is when they usually announce this stuff right?
[2017-02-26 07:19:41] ThruTheFloor : Isn't it pretty much guaranteed that its gonna be approved tho?
[2017-02-26 07:24:34] InvalidUser : Time to RECK some shorts
[2017-02-26 07:24:37] micmix : rapidtrades: the last one you linked looks good. 128GB is enough for Windows plus software like Chrome etc, and 1TB for porn and games
[2017-02-26 07:25:03] micmix : Due to federal and international regulations, this product can only be shipped within the continental United States.
[2017-02-26 07:25:15] rapidtrades : /price
[2017-02-26 07:25:18] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1158.25 (1.16%) Bitfinex : 1159.90 (1.36%) The Woodchipper : 1156.28 (2.00%) itBit : 1159.81 (1.37%) Kraken : 1158.00 (1.09%) GDAX : 1157.94 (1.38%) ```
[2017-02-26 07:29:50] rapidtrades : r/bitcoin 450 users
[2017-02-26 07:29:58] rapidtrades : r/bitcoinmarkets 85 users
[2017-02-26 07:30:14] rapidtrades : 1/4 bitcoiners are speculators
[2017-02-26 07:30:28] rapidtrades : currency of the future right here folks!
[2017-02-26 07:31:07] .. : bitmex 886 users, 200% of users are traders
[2017-02-26 07:31:58] .. : primedice 2450 users, 550% of users are degens, etc
[2017-02-26 07:32:16] InvalidUser : nice
[2017-02-26 07:32:51] rapidtrades : Hope the SEC has enough decency to come out with their NO decision soon
[2017-02-26 07:33:07] rapidtrades : they prolly saw the headlines by now
[2017-02-26 07:33:26] rapidtrades : might want to cut that in the bud before it turns into a full blown retradtion
[2017-02-26 07:34:03] InvalidUser : No matter what happens it will be a good trading day
[2017-02-26 07:34:17] Ahhere : rapidtrades: sec pumping
[2017-02-26 07:35:31] InvalidUser : Choo Choo
[2017-02-26 07:35:35] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 100 @ 1160.38
[2017-02-26 07:35:35] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 50 @ 1160.57
[2017-02-26 07:36:13] ThruTheFloor : Ouch
[2017-02-26 07:36:16] rapidtrades : that was a devastating blow to the shorts
[2017-02-26 07:36:48] ThruTheFloor : rapidtrades: Hey, are you averaging up your short or just letting it sit?
[2017-02-26 07:36:55] InvalidUser : Its about to get worse
[2017-02-26 07:37:43] ThruTheFloor : InvalidUser: What happened with your long yesterday? Did you buy the dip or panic sell?
[2017-02-26 07:37:59] InvalidUser : ThruTheFloor: I am still in the trade
[2017-02-26 07:38:43] .. : just wish there was bit more volume so I could be a bulliever, not sure about this 1160 break just yet
[2017-02-26 07:39:19] rapidtrades : https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-02-22/big-banks-declare-war-on-venmo
[2017-02-26 07:39:52] rapidtrades : Venmo, which started in 2009, processed $17.6 billion in transactions last year, a 135 percent increase from the previous year.
[2017-02-26 07:40:19] ThruTheFloor : ..: I think we're gonna spend a few days sideways then drop down to 1100. Then more sideways before up
[2017-02-26 07:40:39] rapidtrades : yeah that's just wishful thinking
[2017-02-26 07:40:58] arbitrage101 : price here is on par with mark price
[2017-02-26 07:41:00] rapidtrades : how many transactions did bitcoin have last year
[2017-02-26 07:41:02] arbitrage101 : index i mean
[2017-02-26 07:41:07] arbitrage101 : what a rare occation
[2017-02-26 07:43:46] InvalidUser : arbitrage101: It's working a lot better now.
[2017-02-26 07:44:03] rapidtrades : average seems to be 200mil per day
[2017-02-26 07:44:15] rapidtrades : seems like a lot
[2017-02-26 07:44:27] rapidtrades : https://blockchain.info/charts/estimated-transaction-volume-usd?timespan=1year
[2017-02-26 07:44:36] rapidtrades : am I doing it wrong?
[2017-02-26 07:45:41] InvalidUser : That is correct
[2017-02-26 07:45:46] rapidtrades : that can't be right, that's higher then total trading volume
[2017-02-26 07:45:58] arbitrage001 : do they keep trace of source and destination of the money?
[2017-02-26 07:46:06] arbitrage001 : keep track
[2017-02-26 07:46:09] ThruTheFloor : I thought it was like 200,000 tx per day?
[2017-02-26 07:46:19] InvalidUser : o sry thats the value traded
[2017-02-26 07:46:27] rapidtrades : ThruTheFloor: i linked u
[2017-02-26 07:46:40] j8 : serious weekend slump effect there
[2017-02-26 07:47:12] InvalidUser : https://blockchain.info/charts/n-transactions?timespan=1year
[2017-02-26 07:47:27] ThruTheFloor : rapidtrades: Are you looking for value or number?
[2017-02-26 07:47:44] rapidtrades : USD value
[2017-02-26 07:47:55] .. : ~300k TX a day, USD value indeed the link u shared
[2017-02-26 07:48:04] rapidtrades : cmon 200mil?
[2017-02-26 07:48:13] rapidtrades : who's moving 200mil every day
[2017-02-26 07:48:25] ThruTheFloor : rapidtrades: Then if average is 250mil * 365 means 91 billion. More than Venmo lol
[2017-02-26 07:48:33] ThruTheFloor : Whales
[2017-02-26 07:48:44] rapidtrades : moving it where?
[2017-02-26 07:48:54] j8 : well if you send $1 from a $1mil UTXO it counts as $1mil
[2017-02-26 07:49:03] rapidtrades : ah
[2017-02-26 07:49:04] InvalidUser : Tony Montana
[2017-02-26 07:49:05] ThruTheFloor : idk maybe its miners or money laundering
[2017-02-26 07:49:15] rapidtrades : no j8 is right
[2017-02-26 07:49:18] ThruTheFloor : j8: It does?
[2017-02-26 07:49:24] rapidtrades : its FAKE
[2017-02-26 07:49:27] ThruTheFloor : Thats stupid
[2017-02-26 07:49:27] rapidtrades : FAKE NEWS
[2017-02-26 07:49:35] j8 : they're not distinguishing change
[2017-02-26 07:49:41] rapidtrades : the data is real but the NEXT IS FAKE
[2017-02-26 07:49:54] j8 : you are still "sending" $1mil in that example
[2017-02-26 07:49:57] InvalidUser : Big break out
[2017-02-26 07:50:23] .. : /price
[2017-02-26 07:50:27] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1164.94 (0.58%) Bitfinex : 1165.00 (0.44%) The Woodchipper : 1158.96 (0.23%) itBit : 1162.00 (0.19%) Kraken : 1157.72 (-0.02%) GDAX : 1159.00 (0.09%) ```
[2017-02-26 07:50:29] ThruTheFloor : So If I have 1 million dollars and I move it out $1000 at a time, it count as a billion worth of volume?
[2017-02-26 07:50:42] ThruTheFloor : That's a shitty metric
[2017-02-26 07:50:45] .. : yes, so that graph is useless
[2017-02-26 07:51:11] .. : its good that one cannot automatically assume which output is change for privacy reasons
[2017-02-26 07:51:14] j8 : that's one reason why people use days destroyed
[2017-02-26 07:51:14] rapidtrades : so how do we approximate the daily USD value
[2017-02-26 07:51:28] .. : cannot imo
[2017-02-26 07:51:28] rapidtrades : if there's 200k.....how much is the average transaction worth
[2017-02-26 07:51:34] ThruTheFloor : If nobody tracks it you cant
[2017-02-26 07:51:39] javierstone : ahh ya uppy uppy
[2017-02-26 07:51:42] Ahhere : rapidtrades: watch this for 5 mins http://bitcointicker.co/transactions/
[2017-02-26 07:51:57] rapidtrades : has to be like $5 max 10
[2017-02-26 07:52:28] InvalidUser : Bitflyer is headed to 1200
[2017-02-26 07:52:30] j8 : tradeblock has all that info
[2017-02-26 07:52:40] rapidtrades : link
[2017-02-26 07:53:04] rapidtrades : InvalidUser: noone cares about a stupid JPY exchange
[2017-02-26 07:53:19] InvalidUser : rapidtrades: sry
[2017-02-26 07:53:31] .. : I would assume average is way more cuz of exchanges/sites moving to cold wallets etc... but median might be like that
[2017-02-26 07:54:28] .. : okc spot 7800+ fomo
[2017-02-26 07:54:29] Ahhere : rapidtrades: I just counted about 200 transactions in the last minute and 70 bitcoin transacted
[2017-02-26 07:54:56] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 50 @ 1163.98
[2017-02-26 07:55:26] InvalidUser : 1200
[2017-02-26 07:56:26] j8 : rapidtrades: https://tradeblock.com/bitcoin/historical/6h-f-txval_per_avg-10071-txs_blk_avg-00071
[2017-02-26 07:57:41] ThruTheFloor : To the moon!!! ┗(°0°)┛
[2017-02-26 07:58:56] InvalidUser : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6RoOwSKI7M
[2017-02-26 08:01:41] Ugly_Old_Goat : Good Morning Ladies
[2017-02-26 08:02:10] InvalidUser : http://i.imgur.com/L7isOel.gifv
[2017-02-26 08:02:14] InvalidUser : .Hola
[2017-02-26 08:02:26] rapidtrades : j8: im getting 300-400 mil since september
[2017-02-26 08:02:37] rapidtrades : so around 700 mil per year
[2017-02-26 08:02:44] ThatCEOGuy : Ugly_Old_Goat: Good morning. Can I ask you a question?
[2017-02-26 08:03:05] rapidtrades : ThatCEOGuy: don't ask him qs, he's an idiot
[2017-02-26 08:03:31] rapidtrades : 25 times below 'Venmo'
[2017-02-26 08:03:36] ThatCEOGuy : rapidtrades: Well you never answered what I should do instead of buying the dip, who else do I ask?
[2017-02-26 08:03:37] MVZ : /sentiment
[2017-02-26 08:03:39] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 11.75 / 88.25 Daily : 56.51 / 43.49 Weekly : 48.38 / 51.62 Monthly : 48.11 / 51.89```
[2017-02-26 08:03:39] rapidtrades : 100 times the hype
[2017-02-26 08:04:04] rapidtrades : ThatCEOGuy: buy the top
[2017-02-26 08:04:07] ThruTheFloor : rapidtrades: Venmo has user friendliness
[2017-02-26 08:04:29] Ugly_Old_Goat : ThatCEOGuy: What's up?
[2017-02-26 08:04:34] ThruTheFloor : rapidtrades: I wonder what's their valuation, werent they bought out recently?
[2017-02-26 08:05:03] rapidtrades : yes by PayPal
[2017-02-26 08:05:18] ThatCEOGuy : Ugly_Old_Goat: How do you decide when to add to your position? Do you buy when the price goes down enough, or does it have to be below your entry price?
[2017-02-26 08:05:48] ThruTheFloor : rapidtrades: n 2012, Braintree acquired Venmo for $26.2 million. In 2013, PayPal acquired Braintree for $800 million.
[2017-02-26 08:06:24] rapidtrades : yes i was just gonna paste that
[2017-02-26 08:06:26] ThruTheFloor : rapidtrades: Isnt bitcoin valued at like 18 billion at current prices?
[2017-02-26 08:06:36] rapidtrades : 18 bil
[2017-02-26 08:06:41] ThruTheFloor : lol
[2017-02-26 08:06:56] Ugly_Old_Goat : ThatCEOGuy: It is an art not a science. But if you recall I sold that last rally all the way up from 1195 to 1275. I liiquidated about 2/3 my posittion
[2017-02-26 08:06:58] Apocalyptic : sup rapid
[2017-02-26 08:07:24] ThruTheFloor : A company with an actual working product is worth 20x less than some digital turnips. Speculation is a beautiful thing
[2017-02-26 08:07:25] Ugly_Old_Goat : I then placed orders to buy them back at 1121 on jperp and 1131 on March
[2017-02-26 08:07:34] Apocalyptic : damn funding on swap is not what it used to be
[2017-02-26 08:07:58] rapidtrades : ThatCEOGuy: it's a science not art
[2017-02-26 08:07:58] Ahhere : ThruTheFloor: lol digital turnips
[2017-02-26 08:08:47] Ugly_Old_Goat : I was travellling when the market broke. If I was at my computer I would have started throwing in market orders of the flash crash below 1100 or perp and march as I never expected that hard of crash
[2017-02-26 08:09:08] rapidtrades : happened too fast for that
[2017-02-26 08:09:13] Ugly_Old_Goat : The crash was hard because we stopped out all the stupid money. Thank you for your support
[2017-02-26 08:09:33] Ugly_Old_Goat : So I am back 100% long
[2017-02-26 08:09:35] ThatCEOGuy : Ugly_Old_Goat: Ok, so slowly sell on the way up and then save the buys for the big crashes, sound about right?
[2017-02-26 08:10:25] rapidtrades : ur learning the wrong things
[2017-02-26 08:10:28] Ugly_Old_Goat : That is how I do it. I am also well funded. My liquidation price was under 700 at the time
[2017-02-26 08:10:34] rapidtrades : mistake 1: size too big
[2017-02-26 08:10:36] Ugly_Old_Goat : That is how I do it. I am also well funded. My liquidation price was under 700 at the time
[2017-02-26 08:10:57] ThatCEOGuy : rapidtrades: ? So how would you do it?
[2017-02-26 08:11:04] Ugly_Old_Goat : So I am back right, but the next month will be very tricky as March will expire
[2017-02-26 08:11:23] rapidtrades : limit risk to 2-5% max...that's after u have some track record @ThatCEOGuy
[2017-02-26 08:11:52] Ugly_Old_Goat : Ts make the transition I will be selling my March at the premium and buy on an exchange to lock up the difference
[2017-02-26 08:11:58] rapidtrades : u have ur entry price, ur exit price...then u derive ur size from those prices
[2017-02-26 08:12:14] rapidtrades : so it fits ur risk parameter