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[2017-02-25 03:47:31] DorianWhack-A-Moto : MikeHunt: sorry just installing myself looking at files now, that should work
[2017-02-25 03:49:07] DorianWhack-A-Moto : got it working for me. wasn't sure of windows syntax but pretty sure that will work
[2017-02-25 03:50:16] InvalidUser : https://steemit.com/funny/@adambalm/not-all-of-the-pictures-of-donald-trump-make-it-in-to-the-media-here-are-some-of-the-less-well-known-ones
[2017-02-25 03:52:08] InvalidUser : That link is broken
[2017-02-25 03:52:11] InvalidUser : https://steemit.com/funny/@adambalm/not-all-of-the-pictures-of-donald-trump-make-it-in-to-the-media-here-are-some-of-the-less-well-known-ones
[2017-02-25 03:52:25] InvalidUser : wtf
[2017-02-25 03:53:00] MikeHunt : DorianWhack-A-Moto: it cant run it, i think its a linux terminal command file
[2017-02-25 03:53:01] Sultan Pepper : InvalidUser: not on this phone. I'll take some tomorrow for you
[2017-02-25 03:53:13] InvalidUser : Cool ty
[2017-02-25 03:53:14] InvalidUser : https://steemit.com/funny/@adambalm/not-all-of-the-pictures-of-donald-trump-make-it-in-to-the-media-here-are-some-of-the-less-well-known-ones
[2017-02-25 03:53:25] InvalidUser : WTF
[2017-02-25 03:54:36] InvalidUser : O it's the stupid spell check changeing T R U M P S name into drumpf
[2017-02-25 03:55:26] ThruTheFloor : lol
[2017-02-25 03:56:18] InvalidUser : change DRUMPF to D O N A L D T R U M P
[2017-02-25 03:56:42] InvalidUser : with a hyphen in the middle of the name
[2017-02-25 03:56:49] ThruTheFloor : InvalidUser: Those are just ripped from the psbattle on reddit
[2017-02-25 03:56:59] InvalidUser : YUP
[2017-02-25 03:57:13] ThruTheFloor : Save that link for grandma
[2017-02-25 03:57:21] InvalidUser : lol
[2017-02-25 03:57:38] DorianWhack-A-Moto : MikeHunt: python is cross platform it should work. one last thing. python.exe "./marketmaker XBTUSD"
[2017-02-25 03:57:53] DorianWhack-A-Moto : enclose the ./ part with quotes " "
[2017-02-25 03:58:18] DorianWhack-A-Moto : if that don't work then im out of ideas lol.
[2017-02-25 03:58:21] MikeHunt : DorianWhack-A-Moto: i think the issue is the makemarket file isnt python, its linux terminal
[2017-02-25 03:58:25] MikeHunt : ill try
[2017-02-25 03:58:32] DorianWhack-A-Moto : no its python
[2017-02-25 03:58:48] rapidtrades : what happens if i scale down the laptop resolution from 1920x1080 to 1366x768 (on a 15 inch laptop)
[2017-02-25 03:58:54] MikeHunt : hmm it runs the file but a load of errors
[2017-02-25 03:59:02] InvalidUser : rapidtrades: Folr
[2017-02-25 03:59:04] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: everything looks shittier?
[2017-02-25 03:59:12] MikeHunt : DorianWhack-A-Moto: hmm it runs the file but a load of errors
[2017-02-25 03:59:16] DorianWhack-A-Moto : MikeHunt: ok so we're getting somewhere. What does the error say?
[2017-02-25 03:59:16] InvalidUser : rapidtrades: for the most part it looks like shit
[2017-02-25 03:59:57] InvalidUser : IF you bought a gaming pc and a laptop you would have 2 screens to use while trading
[2017-02-25 04:01:15] ThruTheFloor : ^ I do this, except I have 6 screens
[2017-02-25 04:01:29] InvalidUser : I have 3,, Love it
[2017-02-25 04:01:56] MikeHunt : DorianWhack-A-Moto: http://pastebin.com/JL5KmpaU
[2017-02-25 04:02:05] ThruTheFloor : InvalidUser: In your pictures you had one tiny screen
[2017-02-25 04:02:20] InvalidUser : Those pics are almost 4 years old
[2017-02-25 04:02:41] InvalidUser : I have 2 21 1080p and 1 1440 ultawide
[2017-02-25 04:04:16] InvalidUser : I would like a 4k just for trading so I can get a ton on windows on one screen
[2017-02-25 04:04:20] InvalidUser : 4k sucks for gaming
[2017-02-25 04:04:35] ThruTheFloor : Speak for yourself
[2017-02-25 04:04:39] ThruTheFloor : 4k is glorious
[2017-02-25 04:04:41] rapidtrades : MikeHunt: above 30 fps is cool right?
[2017-02-25 04:05:17] InvalidUser : it might look nice but you need 3 1080 ti's just to get 60+ fps
[2017-02-25 04:05:21] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: acceptable i guess, is that for ur current laptop?
[2017-02-25 04:05:56] rapidtrades : no
[2017-02-25 04:06:06] DorianWhack-A-Moto : MikeHunt: did you rename any files in the directory? also try renaming the directory itself back to sample-market-maker | not sure if that will fix it or not
[2017-02-25 04:06:48] MikeHunt : DorianWhack-A-Moto: still doesnt work
[2017-02-25 04:07:36] DorianWhack-A-Moto : MikeHunt: i've had websocket errors running it a couple of times but thats probably just my connection crapping out. I'm out of ideas now
[2017-02-25 04:11:57] MikeHunt : DorianWhack-A-Moto: im gonna try vmware + centos
[2017-02-25 04:13:07] DorianWhack-A-Moto : MikeHunt: yeah linux platform would be easier. i'd go with ubuntu but if you're familiar with centos go for it
[2017-02-25 04:13:30] MikeHunt : DorianWhack-A-Moto: hmm maybe ubuntu better idea
[2017-02-25 04:13:31] cryptokeeper : quarts dumping
[2017-02-25 04:14:36] MikeHunt : cryptokeeper: descending triangle
[2017-02-25 04:14:42] InvalidUser : ThruTheFloor: how many windows can you comfortably open up on your 4K
[2017-02-25 04:14:57] ThruTheFloor : InvalidUser: 6
[2017-02-25 04:15:06] InvalidUser : Nice me want
[2017-02-25 04:15:25] ThruTheFloor : InvalidUser: It's really nice, both for programming and for gaming
[2017-02-25 04:15:53] InvalidUser : I might get a cheep Korean one from Ebay then
[2017-02-25 04:16:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 2520 @ 1201.00
[2017-02-25 04:16:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 1000 @ 1199.36
[2017-02-25 04:16:20] ThruTheFloor : InvalidUser: I saw a 4chan thread about that. Apparently you can get 1440p monitors for like $100 something
[2017-02-25 04:16:22] arbitrage101 : dumping
[2017-02-25 04:16:27] arbitrage101 : buy da dip
[2017-02-25 04:16:38] ThruTheFloor : We barely moved
[2017-02-25 04:16:45] arbitrage101 : check h17
[2017-02-25 04:16:57] ThruTheFloor : Well shit
[2017-02-25 04:17:02] arbitrage101 : discount to index is worring
[2017-02-25 04:17:10] arbitrage101 : buy da dip
[2017-02-25 04:17:13] arbitrage101 : work everytime
[2017-02-25 04:17:23] InvalidUser : ThruTheFloor: I got my first 1440 10 bit colour one off there for 550 4 years ago.. It died last year so I spent a bit more and got one with a warranty.
[2017-02-25 04:17:36] Tetsuo : Bulls? Whats up?
[2017-02-25 04:18:24] ThruTheFloor : Damn, I have an order 1190, but no ones biting
[2017-02-25 04:18:40] micmix : I like setup like this one: http://www.spottradingllc.com/files/spot-traders-slider.jpg
[2017-02-25 04:18:43] DorianWhack-A-Moto : ThruTheFloor: 1189.99 got filled for me
[2017-02-25 04:19:52] micmix : 12 screens setup in the middle
[2017-02-25 04:20:37] ThruTheFloor : Why are futures moving but not perp?
[2017-02-25 04:20:48] ayy_lmao : it follows okc quarterly
[2017-02-25 04:20:50] micmix : futures pre-dump the real dump
[2017-02-25 04:20:53] ayy_lmao : swap follows stamp
[2017-02-25 04:21:08] Tetsuo : micmix: +1
[2017-02-25 04:21:15] InvalidUser : Big dip on BTCc
[2017-02-25 04:21:29] rapidtrades : what
[2017-02-25 04:21:32] rapidtrades : WHAT
[2017-02-25 04:21:37] rapidtrades : news?
[2017-02-25 04:21:50] InvalidUser : The price just jumped down 13 bucks in seconds
[2017-02-25 04:22:03] Tetsuo : Looks bad
[2017-02-25 04:22:07] InvalidUser : Looks like it was just a spike
[2017-02-25 04:22:24] ThruTheFloor : Yeah, it's not staying down
[2017-02-25 04:22:30] ThruTheFloor : Just a head fake looks like
[2017-02-25 04:22:59] InvalidUser : rapidtrades: No news, could have been fat fingers
[2017-02-25 04:23:27] arbitrage101 : rapidtrades: china ban bitcoin
[2017-02-25 04:23:32] InvalidUser : lol
[2017-02-25 04:23:36] InvalidUser : That's next
[2017-02-25 04:23:45] arbitrage101 : i ban bitcoin
[2017-02-25 04:24:04] InvalidUser : Then 10 hrs later we ment to add "not" before the word ban
[2017-02-25 04:25:21] InvalidUser : Everyone is on Ebay lookin up 4k screens
[2017-02-25 04:25:35] ThruTheFloor : InvalidUser: I wonder how many chinese aristocrats gamble on bitcoin in their spare time
[2017-02-25 04:25:52] InvalidUser : Lots
[2017-02-25 04:26:33] InvalidUser : I have also heard that it is the new cool thing to do at work if you are a CEO
[2017-02-25 04:26:47] ThruTheFloor : Sauce?
[2017-02-25 04:26:52] InvalidUser : This thing is going mainstream and there is nothing that anyone can do about it.
[2017-02-25 04:27:00] MikeHunt : oh there is
[2017-02-25 04:27:25] MikeHunt : governments specialize in force, dont underestimate their potential for brutality
[2017-02-25 04:28:19] Tetsuo : paying more htan credit crad fees to qiat longer than a a amazon same day delivery for your tx, dunno if that´s the future
[2017-02-25 04:28:26] ThruTheFloor : MikeHunt: I don't think any government cares too much about btc, except for like AML and such. When governments start trying to back their currencies with BTC or trade oil in it, that's when you should be worried
[2017-02-25 04:28:27] Tetsuo : *wait
[2017-02-25 04:28:58] InvalidUser : ThruTheFloor: I can't find it, I read it about 6 mo ago..
[2017-02-25 04:29:20] ThruTheFloor : InvalidUser: It's ok, I trust you bby
[2017-02-25 04:29:46] ThruTheFloor : Tetsuo: I thought I was gonna get banned? What happened? I'm still here, so UNBAN ME
[2017-02-25 04:30:02] MikeHunt : ThruTheFloor: i mean they can, but not necessarily they will
[2017-02-25 04:30:28] ThruTheFloor : MikeHunt: Fair enough
[2017-02-25 04:31:49] ThruTheFloor : God, the price hasn't budge in hours. Someone please poke bitcoin for me
[2017-02-25 04:32:40] InvalidUser : ThruTheFloor: IT's so stable even the index is on par
[2017-02-25 04:33:13] ThruTheFloor : Man, idk which direction it's gonna go, but it's going to be violent
[2017-02-25 04:33:46] DorianWhack-A-Moto : calm before the storm
[2017-02-25 04:33:51] arbitrage101 : going to position around in case price dump again
[2017-02-25 04:34:07] arbitrage101 : yesterday could have been better if i position myself right
[2017-02-25 04:35:34] InvalidUser : ThruTheFloor: I can't tell either.
[2017-02-25 04:36:28] InvalidUser : The Chinese say dip, but what to they know. "Back of the line with you" for fucking with BTC last month
[2017-02-25 04:36:59] DorianWhack-A-Moto : /sentiment
[2017-02-25 04:37:02] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 51.21 / 48.79 Daily : 56.92 / 43.08 Weekly : 47.20 / 52.80 Monthly : 47.61 / 52.39```
[2017-02-25 04:37:04] InvalidUser : What happens when you put in gently caressing, does it change it to fuk
[2017-02-25 04:37:22] ThruTheFloor : Almost even, it's unnerving how calm it all is
[2017-02-25 04:37:38] ThruTheFloor : Everyone is waiting and watching to make a move
[2017-02-25 04:37:47] aethlios : https://www.tradingview.com/x/wjxubHW0/ march okcoin try to hold the line from 720
[2017-02-25 04:38:47] InvalidUser : ThruTheFloor: I think your right people are gun shy from last night. But who ever makes the first move my guess is the market will follow.
[2017-02-25 04:39:53] ThruTheFloor : InvalidUser: That's the worst part tho. Let's say the price moves up, so everyone jumps in, then we hit 1210 or something, run out of steam and then we drop. Everyone who FOMO buys just bought the top.
[2017-02-25 04:40:12] ThruTheFloor : This whole think reeks of manipulation. I dont like it
[2017-02-25 04:40:40] DorianWhack-A-Moto : lol welcome to bitcoin. manipulation in the markets is par for the course
[2017-02-25 04:41:01] ThruTheFloor : I want to get off Mr. Satoshi's Wild Ride
[2017-02-25 04:41:13] InvalidUser : ThruTheFloor: I am sure bots crashed the price last night,, every single market dropped 1000 bucks with in 10 seconds at the same time. That is not humans doing that
[2017-02-25 04:41:17] DorianWhack-A-Moto : bearwhales, bullwhales, megaunkown whales we've got it all kids. come and get rekt today!
[2017-02-25 04:41:31] InvalidUser : They waited about 3 days worth of pumping to do it,, so prepare for it.
[2017-02-25 04:41:34] InvalidUser : It will happen again
[2017-02-25 04:41:51] DorianWhack-A-Moto : if a whale doesn't fcuk you on your first try we'll give you another go free!
[2017-02-25 04:41:55] ThruTheFloor : InvalidUser: @DorianWhack-A-Moto Argh, how do you even plan for this, it's frustrating
[2017-02-25 04:42:01] DorianWhack-A-Moto : Mr Satoshis Whale World
[2017-02-25 04:42:12] DorianWhack-A-Moto : I should start a crypto trading theme park
[2017-02-25 04:42:51] DorianWhack-A-Moto : Hot dogs only 1 dollar! make that 2 dollars! No they're 50cents now, whoops $45 dollar hot dogs kids!
[2017-02-25 04:43:10] InvalidUser : ThruTheFloor: Have enough liquid BTC on hand you can lower your leverage instantly, And have your finger on the eject button
[2017-02-25 04:43:24] InvalidUser : That drop last night blew right through my stops with out even looking
[2017-02-25 04:43:54] javierstone : i waas trying to place orders as it was happenign and they were error'ing out, it was madness
[2017-02-25 04:44:17] DorianWhack-A-Moto : whales playing games on OKC futures
[2017-02-25 04:44:26] DorianWhack-A-Moto : watch those walls
[2017-02-25 04:44:56] InvalidUser : DorianWhack-A-Moto: rgr ty
[2017-02-25 04:45:15] DorianWhack-A-Moto : dsafj;?
[2017-02-25 04:45:55] InvalidUser : ThruTheFloor: Also make your trigger for the stops for index, last and mark
[2017-02-25 04:46:09] ThruTheFloor : javierstone: Bitmex is unusable during large movements, laggy as all hell and stops are completely ignored
[2017-02-25 04:46:18] InvalidUser : This will give you an advantage over others stop orders
[2017-02-25 04:46:53] DorianWhack-A-Moto : ThruTheFloor: polo lags on every coin pump
[2017-02-25 04:47:13] DorianWhack-A-Moto : funny how a trading site cant handle lots of trades
[2017-02-25 04:47:33] ThruTheFloor : InvalidUser: That's a good one, the multiple price thing is really annoying tho
[2017-02-25 04:47:42] ThruTheFloor : DorianWhack-A-Moto: I wonder if the api is better
[2017-02-25 04:47:55] ThruTheFloor : When Bitfinex when down their trading engine was fine
[2017-02-25 04:48:11] DorianWhack-A-Moto : yeah api probably better . browser gets bogged down
[2017-02-25 04:48:33] InvalidUser : ThruTheFloor: I bet they use a seprate server then there front end one
[2017-02-25 04:48:49] ThruTheFloor : I used qtbitcoin last bubble, maybe I should get that set up again
[2017-02-25 04:48:55] InvalidUser : separate
[2017-02-25 04:49:12] javierstone : whats qt bit?
[2017-02-25 04:49:18] ThruTheFloor : I'd still come here for the insightful discussion ofc <3
[2017-02-25 04:49:26] ThruTheFloor : javierstone: Trading app
[2017-02-25 04:49:43] ThruTheFloor : javierstone: Not sure if they support Bitmex tho, haven't looked at it in years
[2017-02-25 04:51:12] DorianWhack-A-Moto : closed out futures. dont trust it right now. not sure im ready for a flash move
[2017-02-25 04:51:35] MikeHunt : looks downy
[2017-02-25 04:51:43] MikeHunt : pitchfork suggests we got a long way down
[2017-02-25 04:52:08] ThruTheFloor : Can someone call sentiment for me?
[2017-02-25 04:52:16] DorianWhack-A-Moto : really feels like somethings about to go down
[2017-02-25 04:52:21] DorianWhack-A-Moto : or up
[2017-02-25 04:52:27] DorianWhack-A-Moto : a MOVE
[2017-02-25 04:52:29] InvalidUser : /
[2017-02-25 04:52:31] InvalidUser : /sentiment
[2017-02-25 04:52:34] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 49.59 / 50.41 Daily : 57.27 / 42.73 Weekly : 47.26 / 52.75 Monthly : 47.61 / 52.39```
[2017-02-25 04:52:56] Tetsuo : /ban InvalidUser
[2017-02-25 04:53:15] InvalidUser : GL with tat
[2017-02-25 04:53:16] InvalidUser : that
[2017-02-25 04:53:30] InvalidUser : DROPTABLE [ @Tetsuo ]
[2017-02-25 04:53:57] ThruTheFloor : Tetsuo: Dude, for real, what is your deal?
[2017-02-25 04:54:18] MikeHunt : DorianWhack-A-Moto: up would be expensive, bears walled them off at 1275
[2017-02-25 04:54:28] MikeHunt : 1280*
[2017-02-25 04:54:35] InvalidUser : /\
[2017-02-25 04:54:43] DorianWhack-A-Moto : could be fake walls just there to hold it down
[2017-02-25 04:54:57] DorianWhack-A-Moto : or a warning
[2017-02-25 04:55:09] MikeHunt : DorianWhack-A-Moto: the wall at 8888 was "fake" as well
[2017-02-25 04:55:46] MikeHunt : artificially put there in order to induce a crash
[2017-02-25 04:55:55] MikeHunt : and u had pboc news as well
[2017-02-25 04:56:11] DorianWhack-A-Moto : its only real if it gets eaten. pulled before reached is fake. won't know if its real or fake til we get close
[2017-02-25 04:56:35] MikeHunt : the $23m wall stood and got eaten to ~$18m
[2017-02-25 04:56:38] MikeHunt : then we dropped
[2017-02-25 04:58:00] DorianWhack-A-Moto : wonder if there are any troll whales? throwing around millions just to fcuk with everyone
[2017-02-25 04:58:32] InvalidUser : How is the index on par when BS is 1181 and btcc is 1122 that makes 1160
[2017-02-25 04:58:35] ThruTheFloor : When you have that kind of money, you dont throw that money around unless you have a plan
[2017-02-25 04:58:50] InvalidUser : Well not on par but
[2017-02-25 04:59:05] ThruTheFloor : InvalidUser: Don't they add their own adjustments too?
[2017-02-25 04:59:30] InvalidUser : ThruTheFloor: IDK I am new here.,,, But I do remember a mod saying that last night
[2017-02-25 04:59:56] javierstone : i think we're pumping cuz im scared of dumping
[2017-02-25 05:00:12] InvalidUser : javierstone: TY bro
[2017-02-25 05:00:14] MikeHunt : javierstone: stuck in a long?
[2017-02-25 05:00:23] javierstone : nope
[2017-02-25 05:00:43] javierstone : in a green and well protected long(s)
[2017-02-25 05:00:48] InvalidUser : There should be a small uptic with in 30
[2017-02-25 05:00:59] ThruTheFloor : InvalidUser: Why 30?
[2017-02-25 05:02:31] InvalidUser : The itchy cloud is predicting it.
[2017-02-25 05:03:08] ThruTheFloor : Ichi is unreliable, but it also says we'd dump shortly after
[2017-02-25 05:03:16] InvalidUser : True
[2017-02-25 05:03:22] ThruTheFloor : Literally about to jump off a cliff
[2017-02-25 05:03:31] InvalidUser : It is better then a coin flip though (:
[2017-02-25 05:03:46] ThruTheFloor : Man, if I get ADL like last time i'm gonna be pissed
[2017-02-25 05:04:29] InvalidUser : IDK care what it does honestly I am in a low leverage long, long term trade.
[2017-02-25 05:04:57] ThruTheFloor : I'm setting stops for my long up to 1280 then setting stops for my short under 1100, got orders to buy back futures from 900-1100
[2017-02-25 05:05:13] InvalidUser : I got hit last night too,, that sucked. I was swearing like a hooker being kicked out of motel room
[2017-02-25 05:05:28] ThruTheFloor : lol first time it ever happened to me
[2017-02-25 05:05:32] ThruTheFloor : So pissed
[2017-02-25 05:05:49] ThruTheFloor : 124% profit, still going down, then ADL
[2017-02-25 05:06:16] InvalidUser : I was almost up85% I lost a few BTC in it,, FFS
[2017-02-25 05:06:19] ThruTheFloor : I tried selling some and ADL but wasnt fast enough
[2017-02-25 05:06:27] ThruTheFloor : deleveraging*
[2017-02-25 05:06:46] ThruTheFloor : InvalidUser: Oh well, could've been worse
[2017-02-25 05:06:52] InvalidUser : I saw the price rip past my ADL then right back up again then dip I was hammering the eject button but it did nothing
[2017-02-25 05:07:19] ThruTheFloor : Yeah, none of the buttons did anything when shit went down lol
[2017-02-25 05:07:20] MikeHunt : lol you guys..complaining about not enough profit
[2017-02-25 05:07:26] MikeHunt : i lost 75% of my acc.
[2017-02-25 05:07:34] MikeHunt : cry me a river
[2017-02-25 05:07:39] MikeHunt : :/
[2017-02-25 05:07:42] javierstone : ya but whne have u ever won?
[2017-02-25 05:07:44] ThruTheFloor : Sorry bro
[2017-02-25 05:07:52] javierstone : i've literally never heard you do anything right MikeHunt
[2017-02-25 05:07:54] ThruTheFloor : MikeHunt: What the liq on your new short again?
[2017-02-25 05:08:01] MikeHunt : ThruTheFloor: 1400
[2017-02-25 05:08:14] MikeHunt : javierstone: maybe im cursed
[2017-02-25 05:08:24] ThruTheFloor : MikeHunt: Entry? When are you planning on getting out?
[2017-02-25 05:08:27] javierstone : nah you just aren't very smart
[2017-02-25 05:08:35] ThruTheFloor : Damn REKT
[2017-02-25 05:08:39] javierstone : and it makes sense when i hear talk about other things like politis and brexit
[2017-02-25 05:08:40] MikeHunt : ThruTheFloor: 1130
[2017-02-25 05:08:54] javierstone : MikeHunt yer the reason fake news is a problem
[2017-02-25 05:09:15] MikeHunt : javierstone: my trading sucks balls but i'd disagree on politics
[2017-02-25 05:09:20] InvalidUser : Na, this is a big learning experience. If people would spend less time shit talking and share there incite in to trading, we could all meet up in Mexico in a few years
[2017-02-25 05:09:22] javierstone : hahahaha perfect
[2017-02-25 05:09:27] MikeHunt : i made 2 bets last year on brexit/trump and made a lot of $$$
[2017-02-25 05:09:42] MikeHunt : and then lost most of it here.... lol
[2017-02-25 05:09:45] ThruTheFloor : MikeHunt: idk man, 1h ichi says we might not go below 1125, you might be lucky to break even on this one
[2017-02-25 05:10:02] MikeHunt : ThruTheFloor: well ill settle for break even or a little loss
[2017-02-25 05:10:11] MikeHunt : just not 1200 if i can help it
[2017-02-25 05:10:40] ThruTheFloor : InvalidUser: Eh, there are some people here who actually talk about trading and try to help each other the rest is just shit
[2017-02-25 05:10:54] javierstone : nah its all just shit
[2017-02-25 05:10:59] javierstone : hence the name trollbox
[2017-02-25 05:10:59] InvalidUser : lol
[2017-02-25 05:11:03] MikeHunt : ThruTheFloor: are you using default ichi settings?
[2017-02-25 05:11:06] ThruTheFloor : MikeHunt: We're probably going up to 1200 something before we go down so try not to panic sell
[2017-02-25 05:11:15] ThruTheFloor : MikeHunt: Yeah, its been working for me
[2017-02-25 05:11:47] javierstone : the person who was smart enough to program this platform anticipated the stupidity of ppl like MikeHUnt
[2017-02-25 05:11:51] bigdickbandit : Been waiting all fkn day for a big move to take a position
[2017-02-25 05:11:52] bigdickbandit : fml
[2017-02-25 05:11:55] MikeHunt : ThruTheFloor: @BTCDJS suggested 20 60 120 30 as settings
[2017-02-25 05:11:55] Tetsuo : White House just banned the NewYorkTimes btw
[2017-02-25 05:12:13] InvalidUser : lol
[2017-02-25 05:12:13] ThruTheFloor : Tetsuo: GIVE ME MY JOKES BACK
[2017-02-25 05:12:25] bigdickbandit : Holy fucking shit
[2017-02-25 05:12:25] MikeHunt : javierstone: if we give back gibraltar will u stop being so mean?
[2017-02-25 05:12:31] bigdickbandit : New York times was for trump tho
[2017-02-25 05:12:32] bigdickbandit : Wtf
[2017-02-25 05:12:45] javierstone : @tetsuo and they are enforcing federal marijuana laws
[2017-02-25 05:12:47] InvalidUser : Fuck it, T rumpleThinSkin should ban all news and just publish his own paper
[2017-02-25 05:12:53] ThruTheFloor : bigdickbandit: If you wait for a big move to take a position you are already too late
[2017-02-25 05:13:08] ThruTheFloor : InvalidUser: I'd read it
[2017-02-25 05:13:15] bigdickbandit : I mean to take a position in the opposite direction ya pleb
[2017-02-25 05:13:15] MikeHunt : i think trump will end up alienating all his supporters
[2017-02-25 05:13:18] Tetsuo : http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/02/white-house-bars-new-york-times-and-cnn-from-press-briefing.html
[2017-02-25 05:13:24] ThruTheFloor : bigdickbandit: Homo
[2017-02-25 05:13:34] bigdickbandit : Kek
[2017-02-25 05:13:35] InvalidUser : ThruTheFloor: That and the National Inquirer
[2017-02-25 05:14:10] bigdickbandit : I slept through the dump last night woke up and price was 1175
[2017-02-25 05:14:22] bigdickbandit : and has been sideways since
[2017-02-25 05:14:41] InvalidUser : bigdickbandit: Were you holding a position?
[2017-02-25 05:15:36] bigdickbandit : Nah
[2017-02-25 05:15:42] bigdickbandit : I never hold before I sleep
[2017-02-25 05:15:44] bigdickbandit : Fuck that
[2017-02-25 05:15:52] InvalidUser : Good plan
[2017-02-25 05:16:08] bigdickbandit : it's hard enough trying to trade at work
[2017-02-25 05:16:12] Tetsuo : Ban those goddamn weed smokers
[2017-02-25 05:16:26] MikeHunt : Tetsuo: send them to camps where they can learn not to do drugs?
[2017-02-25 05:16:33] InvalidUser : I did that once worst sleep I ever had... I woke up in a panic and all that happened is I broke even.
[2017-02-25 05:16:58] ThruTheFloor : MikeHunt: Nah, just do what the Philipines did and shoot them dead, that'll learn em
[2017-02-25 05:17:02] bigdickbandit : lmfao
[2017-02-25 05:17:07] MikeHunt : lol
[2017-02-25 05:17:23] InvalidUser : We just had all the pot laws in Canada removed by the supreme court. The citys can make what ever laws they want but it is out of the Fed's hands now
[2017-02-25 05:17:39] javierstone : THEY ARE WILD IN CANADA
[2017-02-25 05:17:48] javierstone : those shops opened in montreal
[2017-02-25 05:17:55] ThruTheFloor : InvalidUser: That's annoying, so each city will have different pot laws?
[2017-02-25 05:17:59] bigdickbandit : Even harder as Australian because of the volume during US hours
[2017-02-25 05:18:09] MikeHunt : weed can do this... http://i.imgur.com/H1idmcP.jpg
[2017-02-25 05:18:17] Tetsuo : USA BANS BTC
[2017-02-25 05:18:21] InvalidUser : █?█
[2017-02-25 05:18:30] javierstone : MikeHunt: this is why i feel no guilt shaming your idiocy
[2017-02-25 05:18:38] MikeHunt : javierstone: ?
[2017-02-25 05:18:41] ThruTheFloor : lol
[2017-02-25 05:18:44] javierstone : yer such a knob
[2017-02-25 05:19:01] MikeHunt : javierstone: i thought only scots used "yer"
[2017-02-25 05:19:02] javierstone : your stupidity goes beyond typical dumb internet user
[2017-02-25 05:19:17] MikeHunt : javierstone: do i make u feel insecure at all?
[2017-02-25 05:19:23] javierstone : its like your on the not smart side of being autistic or something
[2017-02-25 05:19:24] MikeHunt : which causes ur negative reactions?
[2017-02-25 05:19:38] MikeHunt : i seem to annoy you so i must be good at something
[2017-02-25 05:19:39] Tetsuo : REKT i miss you buddy
[2017-02-25 05:19:52] InvalidUser : ThruTheFloor: You can smoke it where ever you can smoke cigarettes. You can also possess it where ever you want. The citys can make laws about shops that can sell it or people who grow it in there city
[2017-02-25 05:19:53] ThruTheFloor : Stamp wall is gone, looks like we going down
[2017-02-25 05:19:55] javierstone : nope but i could see that someone raised by medicre psychiastrists like yourself would say shit like that
[2017-02-25 05:20:01] Tetsuo : 6 dollar apread @ H17
[2017-02-25 05:20:02] Tetsuo : 7
[2017-02-25 05:20:14] Tetsuo : byebye mm
[2017-02-25 05:20:39] MikeHunt : javierstone: also that brexit thing seemed to bug u a lot, if ur scottish i understand
[2017-02-25 05:21:06] ThruTheFloor : Shorts about to have a good day
[2017-02-25 05:21:07] javierstone : nope just gave me an idea of who you were
[2017-02-25 05:21:22] MikeHunt : javierstone: what do you stereotype me as?
[2017-02-25 05:21:43] javierstone : product of failed neocon policy
[2017-02-25 05:21:47] Woodman : http://bitcoinmacroeconomics.com/2017/02/02/btcmacroecon-drinking-game-start/ amigos! este noche bebemos!
[2017-02-25 05:22:05] InvalidUser : Canada is pretty pro pot so I can not see to many laws comming our way.
[2017-02-25 05:22:10] Tetsuo : i told you earlier , cheap shorts won´t last forever , now main market maker on h17 has gone rogue, good luck bulls, i´m goin to sleep for a few hours
[2017-02-25 05:22:22] ThruTheFloor : Man, if bitcoin is going to move I hope it does it soon, I have to shit really bad
[2017-02-25 05:22:28] MikeHunt : javierstone: im not a conservative, i support open borders i just dont like the EU
[2017-02-25 05:22:31] MikeHunt : EUSSR*
[2017-02-25 05:22:42] MikeHunt : ThruTheFloor: maybe u can help it dump with a dump lol
[2017-02-25 05:22:47] javierstone : u prolly got a couple years til u pay taxes
[2017-02-25 05:22:58] ThruTheFloor : Yeah and plus all my profit down the toilet? I dont think so
[2017-02-25 05:23:02] javierstone : but you can memorize everything dad says until then
[2017-02-25 05:23:10] ThruTheFloor : MikeHunt: You european?
[2017-02-25 05:23:25] InvalidUser : Just tell the Feds you lost all your BTC on BTC dice
[2017-02-25 05:23:29] MikeHunt : ThruTheFloor: English
[2017-02-25 05:23:44] ThruTheFloor : MikeHunt: Congrats on getting out of the EU
[2017-02-25 05:24:00] MikeHunt : ThruTheFloor: not rly out yet, politicians drag their feet
[2017-02-25 05:24:16] InvalidUser : You will be out that deal sucked for everyone but bankers
[2017-02-25 05:24:28] ThruTheFloor : MikeHunt: Nah, I'm sure it's going to happen. They let it happen.
[2017-02-25 05:24:43] MikeHunt : ThruTheFloor: oh yeh, continentals gonna get buttfucked
[2017-02-25 05:24:43] InvalidUser : All trade deals suck.. Free trade or Fukoff
[2017-02-25 05:24:49] MikeHunt : literally if tehy live in sweden
[2017-02-25 05:24:56] MikeHunt : or germany (sorry tetseo)
[2017-02-25 05:25:07] ThruTheFloor : Now they can show everyone how bad it is w/o EU convince the stupids you need to go back, and EU will take you back but you lose all the special deals you have now
[2017-02-25 05:25:39] MikeHunt : ThruTheFloor: rather die on my feet than serve on my knees
[2017-02-25 05:25:43] ThruTheFloor : MikeHunt: Nah, it's you who's going to get buttfukked. You didn't think they let you leave for no reason, did you?
[2017-02-25 05:26:10] MikeHunt : ThruTheFloor: u can tell whoes going to win based on who has the pointy sticks
[2017-02-25 05:26:29] ThruTheFloor : MikeHunt: Yeah, the globalists
[2017-02-25 05:26:47] MikeHunt : ThruTheFloor: yes, the overthrow of the moneychangers and more direct control by the elite
[2017-02-25 05:26:55] MikeHunt : u thought rothschild really rules this planet?
[2017-02-25 05:27:24] ThruTheFloor : Within a decade Britain will be broken up, back in the EU, in a far less favorable position. They are trying to break you as a nation.
[2017-02-25 05:27:29] MikeHunt : liberalism detached us from one monarchy so they could attach us to a new one, a global one
[2017-02-25 05:27:53] MikeHunt : ThruTheFloor: even UKIP isnt against a reformed EU
[2017-02-25 05:27:54] ThruTheFloor : MikeHunt: Not sure who it is. But there is a concerted effort. Maybe Soros and Rothschilds are just pawns who knows
[2017-02-25 05:28:06] MikeHunt : ThruTheFloor: they are pawns
[2017-02-25 05:28:09] MikeHunt : the EU will fail
[2017-02-25 05:28:14] anonymous123421 : oh boy, is this where I put on my tinfoil hat?
[2017-02-25 05:28:20] MikeHunt : anonymous123421: yes
[2017-02-25 05:28:24] ThruTheFloor : anonymous123421: Why did you ever take it off?
[2017-02-25 05:28:37] MikeHunt : ThruTheFloor: look at the EU parliament building, the tower of babel....know the story?
[2017-02-25 05:28:50] anonymous123421 : ThruTheFloor: Sorry it was getting too crinkled
[2017-02-25 05:29:19] ThruTheFloor : MikeHunt: Yes, they want to be like US, divided so people ignore and let government do as it pleases. Bread and circuses and all that
[2017-02-25 05:29:34] ThruTheFloor : That's why the immigrant crisis was manufactured
[2017-02-25 05:29:36] MikeHunt : ThruTheFloor: yeh and its going to fail, wouldnt be suprised if same happens in the US
[2017-02-25 05:30:03] ThruTheFloor : MikeHunt: Hope so, Trump and Brexit were good wins but I don't think it's over yet
[2017-02-25 05:30:14] MikeHunt : ThruTheFloor: oh its going to get a lot worse, global reset
[2017-02-25 05:30:32] MikeHunt : i may be a shit trader but i got stored food, gold and personal water supply
[2017-02-25 05:30:38] InvalidUser : I cant wait for the reset
[2017-02-25 05:31:14] MikeHunt : only thing i cant get is firearms (UK laws)
[2017-02-25 05:31:29] ThruTheFloor : MikeHunt: Get some off of AlphaBay
[2017-02-25 05:31:36] InvalidUser : Just going to say that
[2017-02-25 05:31:41] MikeHunt : ThruTheFloor: UK law isnt favourable wen it comes to illegal guns
[2017-02-25 05:31:55] ThruTheFloor : MikeHunt: Well dont go around showing it off ya dingus
[2017-02-25 05:32:01] InvalidUser : lol
[2017-02-25 05:32:05] MikeHunt : ThruTheFloor: ammo is the main problem
[2017-02-25 05:32:11] PepeLovesBitcoin : pepe lick dat pussy
[2017-02-25 05:32:14] MikeHunt : pellet gun would probably be easier/more practical
[2017-02-25 05:32:33] InvalidUser : Crossbow
[2017-02-25 05:32:41] MikeHunt : yeh, silent take down
[2017-02-25 05:33:03] InvalidUser : Just put down a drop cloth first,, For the mess
[2017-02-25 05:33:09] ThruTheFloor : I've wanted to make my own since that Mythbusters episode
[2017-02-25 05:34:01] PepeLovesBitcoin : why is premium 35 on okc only 20 here
[2017-02-25 05:34:42] PepeLovesBitcoin : 10 dollar spread lmao
[2017-02-25 05:34:56] MikeHunt : im not inner city so im not too bothered about personal protection, that's were its really gonna suck 4 ppl
[2017-02-25 05:35:04] MikeHunt : london riots were just a testbed imo
[2017-02-25 05:36:33] InvalidUser : PepeLovesBitcoin: Aliens My auto-correct tried to change this to Asians
[2017-02-25 05:36:55] ThruTheFloor : InvalidUser: My autocorrect also changes Metroid to Negroid
[2017-02-25 05:37:06] InvalidUser : lulz
[2017-02-25 05:37:08] PepeLovesBitcoin : fiinally orders back on book slol
[2017-02-25 05:37:08] MikeHunt : ThruTheFloor: did u buy ur pc from kkkworld?
[2017-02-25 05:37:22] jordanbitfort : wheres the volume right now?? every exchange is dead
[2017-02-25 05:37:35] MikeHunt : jordanbitfort: pumps off, now we sink i guess
[2017-02-25 05:38:14] MikeHunt : if we drop throu itchi then you know its bad
[2017-02-25 05:38:29] ThruTheFloor : To the moon!!! ┗(°0°)┛
[2017-02-25 05:42:39] DorianWhack-A-Moto : laptop fan kickin in. big move coming
[2017-02-25 05:42:57] ThruTheFloor : DorianWhack-A-Moto: Ah the old laptop fan indicator
[2017-02-25 05:43:53] rapidtrades : oh march coming down nicely
[2017-02-25 05:46:02] ayy_lmao : $7 spread lol
[2017-02-25 05:48:41] InvalidUser : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Wi8Fv0AJA4
[2017-02-25 05:49:04] InvalidUser : This is what plays in my head when the market is going sideways
[2017-02-25 05:49:26] ThruTheFloor : So, I assume the volume is gone because the bots are waiting for something and the whale are going to use that
[2017-02-25 05:49:33] ayy_lmao : lol
[2017-02-25 05:49:39] ThruTheFloor : What do bots usually use as indicators?
[2017-02-25 05:49:48] ThruTheFloor : Maybe we can guess the next move?
[2017-02-25 05:55:08] InvalidUser : ThruTheFloor: What did you pay for your 4k?
[2017-02-25 05:55:27] ThruTheFloor : InvalidUser: $280
[2017-02-25 05:55:40] InvalidUser : Wow nice price
[2017-02-25 05:56:05] ThruTheFloor : Got it from a friend
[2017-02-25 05:56:28] InvalidUser : Nice.. Is it IPS?
[2017-02-25 05:56:43] InvalidUser : You don't need IPS for trading but it would be nice
[2017-02-25 05:57:34] InvalidUser : There is one on Ebay for 315 shipped. Brandname 24in
[2017-02-25 05:58:24] InvalidUser : Watch your longs, we might see a dip
[2017-02-25 05:59:04] ThruTheFloor : InvalidUser: I don't think so
[2017-02-25 05:59:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 3000 @ 1172.72
[2017-02-25 05:59:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 650 @ 1172.35
[2017-02-25 05:59:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 500 @ 1173.00
[2017-02-25 05:59:15] ThruTheFloor : Ouch
[2017-02-25 05:59:27] ThruTheFloor : I guess we're not heading up then
[2017-02-25 06:00:02] bigdickbandit : Is this it boys!?
[2017-02-25 06:00:02] ThruTheFloor : Bear market confirmed
[2017-02-25 06:00:27] .. : trend reversal confirmed, $200 coins incoming
[2017-02-25 06:00:57] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 15001 @ 1190.69
[2017-02-25 06:01:37] rapidtrades : boom
[2017-02-25 06:01:46] bigdickbandit : I'm short 1167
[2017-02-25 06:01:50] rapidtrades : eat my shorts!
[2017-02-25 06:02:10] bigdickbandit : Bit late but w/E
[2017-02-25 06:02:50] InvalidUser : rapidtrades: Buy my long!
[2017-02-25 06:02:54] MikeHunt : u guys leave short going or take profit straight away?
[2017-02-25 06:03:13] ThruTheFloor : MikeHunt: It's going way lower than this
[2017-02-25 06:03:26] ThruTheFloor : Debating whether I should close long or just deleverage
[2017-02-25 06:03:34] MikeHunt : ThruTheFloor: whats ur liq?
[2017-02-25 06:03:45] ThruTheFloor : 1034
[2017-02-25 06:03:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 10 @ 1167.34
[2017-02-25 06:03:51] REKT : Next stop - goblin town!
[2017-02-25 06:03:54] MikeHunt : ThruTheFloor: might not be safe
[2017-02-25 06:04:03] MikeHunt : especially if ETF fails
[2017-02-25 06:04:25] ThruTheFloor : Argh, -15% tho
[2017-02-25 06:04:36] MikeHunt : ThruTheFloor: how much btc lost?
[2017-02-25 06:04:40] InvalidUser : It should bounce right back up here in a bit
[2017-02-25 06:05:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 23036 @ 1186.30
[2017-02-25 06:05:12] bigdickbandit : u wish
[2017-02-25 06:05:54] ThruTheFloor : -_-: You making a move?
[2017-02-25 06:05:55] InvalidUser : I do
[2017-02-25 06:06:08] InvalidUser : Might as well roll a J and enjoy the ride
[2017-02-25 06:06:28] bigdickbandit : Fuark those buy walls at 1165
[2017-02-25 06:06:29] bigdickbandit : tuff
[2017-02-25 06:06:38] MikeHunt : ThruTheFloor: apart from the dumb quick short i did early i generally set tight stops
[2017-02-25 06:06:55] MikeHunt : geting stuck in neg RoE can be real torture
[2017-02-25 06:07:09] ThruTheFloor : This seems like a fake, looks like we might still bounce up
[2017-02-25 06:07:50] InvalidUser : TY for the 1000 contracts long
[2017-02-25 06:08:07] rapidtrades : its not too late to dump ur COIN fellas
[2017-02-25 06:08:21] InvalidUser : That was even better then my 1170 I pulled out of
[2017-02-25 06:08:21] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: think ur right about 880
[2017-02-25 06:08:33] InvalidUser : You should bet on that
[2017-02-25 06:08:59] MikeHunt : InvalidUser: how?
[2017-02-25 06:09:09] InvalidUser : ThruTheFloor: It's just a bobble of weak hands
[2017-02-25 06:09:30] InvalidUser : MikeHunt: I heard there is a site called Bitmex that you can bet on the price of BTC
[2017-02-25 06:09:52] MikeHunt : InvalidUser: i thought u meant like derivative style bet on a trade
[2017-02-25 06:09:56] MikeHunt : not regular trading
[2017-02-25 06:10:06] InvalidUser : No, I was just being an ass
[2017-02-25 06:10:14] MikeHunt : InvalidUser: lol k
[2017-02-25 06:10:32] ThruTheFloor : Cut my loss on the long, down $600 but w/e if we really drop hard, it'll be worth it
[2017-02-25 06:11:40] MikeHunt : ThruTheFloor: gotta try n raise some capital for wen it does supposedly
[2017-02-25 06:11:42] DorianWhack-A-Moto : ThruTheFloor: how lose were you to liq?
[2017-02-25 06:11:50] DorianWhack-A-Moto : close
[2017-02-25 06:12:20] ThruTheFloor : DorianWhack-A-Moto: Not close. I could have deleveraged myself to 900, but if it falls its a long way down and i dont want to be trapped
[2017-02-25 06:14:09] InvalidUser : Bloody China, We should ban China for having such a low price
[2017-02-25 06:14:26] MikeHunt : china moved to other exchanges
[2017-02-25 06:14:30] MikeHunt : thats were pump came from
[2017-02-25 06:14:36] InvalidUser : Nice
[2017-02-25 06:14:59] MikeHunt : so all pboc have done is driven ppl outside of their control
[2017-02-25 06:15:10] MikeHunt : use localbtc to buy then trade on stamp/finex/okc usd etc.
[2017-02-25 06:15:19] ThruTheFloor : Pretty much
[2017-02-25 06:15:21] InvalidUser : Are we expecting a pump or a dumb when china can make withdrawals
[2017-02-25 06:15:41] MikeHunt : i think if pboc nails localbtc cn then we'll see a serious loss of volume
[2017-02-25 06:15:42] InvalidUser : dump
[2017-02-25 06:15:47] ThruTheFloor : Hard to say, it's good news, but more supply tanks price
[2017-02-25 06:16:09] MikeHunt : its an excuse for another pump n dump
[2017-02-25 06:16:09] InvalidUser : I think all they are doing it enabling KYC
[2017-02-25 06:16:18] ThruTheFloor : MikeHunt: Pretty much
[2017-02-25 06:16:21] InvalidUser : The 30 days was to get the system in place
[2017-02-25 06:16:29] InvalidUser : is
[2017-02-25 06:16:35] MikeHunt : $50k withdrawal limit apparently
[2017-02-25 06:16:38] MikeHunt : btc withdawal*
[2017-02-25 06:16:40] ThruTheFloor : InvalidUser: Doesnt matter another excuse fore whales to make money
[2017-02-25 06:16:46] ThruTheFloor : MikeHunt: That's bad
[2017-02-25 06:16:48] InvalidUser : MikeHunt: 50k a year
[2017-02-25 06:17:04] InvalidUser : ThruTheFloor: Very True
[2017-02-25 06:17:26] MikeHunt : i think the withdrawal limit could cause it dump
[2017-02-25 06:17:27] ThruTheFloor : Can someone call sentiment for me?
[2017-02-25 06:17:34] MikeHunt : /sentiment
[2017-02-25 06:17:37] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 65.28 / 34.72 Daily : 57.01 / 42.99 Weekly : 47.28 / 52.72 Monthly : 47.62 / 52.38```
[2017-02-25 06:18:43] rapidtrades : let it fall already u fecking newbs!
[2017-02-25 06:18:49] MikeHunt : lol
[2017-02-25 06:19:07] InvalidUser : And to 800
[2017-02-25 06:19:10] InvalidUser : (:
[2017-02-25 06:19:18] ThruTheFloor : rapidtrades: Would be hilarious if now it went to 1300
[2017-02-25 06:19:30] InvalidUser : As my dad used to say "Pull out as soon as you can"
[2017-02-25 06:19:48] ThruTheFloor : InvalidUser: But I want bitcoin babies
[2017-02-25 06:19:58] InvalidUser : lol
[2017-02-25 06:20:09] InvalidUser : Little Satoshi's
[2017-02-25 06:21:36] ThruTheFloor : Well now we
[2017-02-25 06:21:40] ThruTheFloor : are going back up
[2017-02-25 06:21:48] ThruTheFloor : Regret closing my long...
[2017-02-25 06:21:58] bigdickbandit : Should I close my short?